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Maximize Net Proceeds: The Planning Window Sellers Miss · Selling Your Canadian Business

• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: Usually when we think about um selling something incredibly valuable like a family home or, you know, a rare vintage car, there is this universal expectation of just well, finality and precision.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: You agree on a number and that's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: You sign a stack of papers, you hand over the keys, and the money hits your bank account.
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  SPEAKER_01: The deal is done, it's clean.
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  SPEAKER_00: If only it were always that simple, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, truly.
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  SPEAKER_01: But step into the world of selling a private business, something you might have spent your entire adult life building, and that simplicity completely vanishes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really does.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just evaporates.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you could accidentally leave a million dollars on the table on closing day.
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  SPEAKER_01: And not because you were like out negotiated by a savvy buyer, but simply because you didn't look at a calendar two years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two whole years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a huge blind spot.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we are so sincerely grateful you're taking the time to join us today for this deep dive because we are opening the playbook on chapter three of an incredibly eye-opening book.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a great read.
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  SPEAKER_00: Selling your Canadian Business, a step-by-step guide to maximizing value and securing your legacy by Carl E.
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  SPEAKER_00: Seguris Jr.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And our mission today is to decode the hidden mechanics of a business exit and uh show you how smart early planning allows you to keep the wealth you spent decades building.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is so critical because the central premise of this chapter is really both a warning and a roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, a warning how?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it establishes a firm professional baseline that tax planning is basically the absolute highest return activity a Canadian business owner will ever undertake in the years before an exit.
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  SPEAKER_01: The highest return activity, like more than driving sales or cutting costs?
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean the numbers on the term sheet rarely match the numbers that actually stay in your bank account.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, because of taxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the difference between an optimally structured transaction and one executed without proper planning, it routinely stretches into the hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell That concept like millions of dollars just vanishing between the term sheet and the bank account is terrifying.
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  SPEAKER_00: It should be.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wakes a lot of founders up in a cold sweat.
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  SPEAKER_01: I bet.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I want to uh put myself in the shoes of a busy founder for a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, go for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Let's say I've been running a manufacturing company for 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm exhausted, I finally find a willing buyer, and I have a fantastic accounting firm on retainer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Naturally.
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  SPEAKER_00: You build a good team.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if I have a great accountant, why can't I just pay them a massive premium to sort out my taxes in the final, say, three weeks before closing?
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Because the government doesn't care about your timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell But if I have an operational fire, I just pay an expert to put it out today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why doesn't throwing money at the problem work at the finish line here?
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell I mean that logic makes total sense in almost any other area of business operations, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But the Canada Revenue Agency does not operate on an emergency timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell They definitely do not.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: The rules simply do not allow for 11th hour fixes.
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  SPEAKER_00: The most valuable Canadian tax tools available to private business owners require a runway that is measured in years, not weeks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you literally cannot outsmart a missed deadline.
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  SPEAKER_00: You really can't.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the ultimate lever we are talking about, like the master tool for a Canadian founder, is the lifetime capital gains exemption.
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  SPEAKER_01: The LCGE.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, the LCGE.
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  SPEAKER_00: In its simplest form, it allows qualifying individuals to sell shares of a small business without paying federal tax on a massive chunk of their profits.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the book mentions a specific threshold for this.
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  SPEAKER_01: As of 2026, it's roughly$1.25 million per individual, and that's adjusted annually for inflation, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's the current figure.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what does that actually mean for the money in my pocket?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like if I shield$1.25 million from federal capital gains tax, what is the actual cash savings?
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  SPEAKER_01: Give me the bottom line.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, when you translate that exemption into bottom line tax savings, the stakes become very real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Depending on the province you operate in, applying that single exemption saves a shareholder anywhere from$250,000 to well over$350,000.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wait, a quarter of a million dollars, minimum.
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  SPEAKER_00: Minimum.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for founders in higher tax jurisdictions like Nova Scotia or Quebec, the savings push toward the absolute top of that range.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you treat tax planning as a closing week task, you forfeit those savings.
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  SPEAKER_00: The door just locks.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that quarter of a million dollars is just gone because of the calendar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just gone.
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  SPEAKER_01: That brings us to the core mechanism the book focuses on, which is the 24-month runway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why does the CRA demand a two-year history?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, the government designed this exemption specifically to reward people who are taking the daily risks of operating an active job-creating business in Canada.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they want to reward actual entrepreneurs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Precisely.
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  SPEAKER_00: They do not want to give massive tax breaks to passive holding companies or, you know, sophisticated investment portfolios that are just masquerading as small businesses.
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  SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: So to prove you are a genuine operating business, your shares must qualify as, and this is the technical term, qualified small business corporation shares.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And how do you prove that?
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  SPEAKER_00: The CRA demands you pass a strict two-part test.
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  SPEAKER_00: First, on the exact day of the sale, at least 90% of your corporation's assets by fair market value must be used principally in an active business carried on primarily in Canada.
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  SPEAKER_01: 90%.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it's basically like a financial fitness test.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a great way to put it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like trying to pass a physical.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't just suck in your gut and eat a salad the morning of the way in to pretend you're healthy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: The CRA is absolutely looking at your two-year diet history.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the second part of the test.
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  SPEAKER_00: For the entire 24 months preceding the sale, more than 50% of the corporation's assets must have been used actively.
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  SPEAKER_01: 50% for two solid years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plus, you must have owned the shares continuously for those two years, and the company must have been a Canadian-controlled private corporation the entire time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but let me play devil's advocate here.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I have been running a highly successful, profitable business for a decade, and I've just been letting that profit pile up as cash in the corporate bank account because, well, I just didn't know what else to do with it, doesn't that make my business more attractive to a buyer?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a buyer might love a balance sheet full of cash.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So why would the CRA penalize me for being successful in having cash?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because the CRA views excess cash as a passive asset.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, passive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not being actively used in the daily operations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: If a corporation holds non-qualifying assets like a massive pile of cash that goes far beyond what you need for daily working capital or an investment portfolio of stocks or a piece of real estate you own but don't actually use for your operations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And those passive assets exceed just 10% of your total value on the day you sell.
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  SPEAKER_00: You fail the 90% test.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just 10%?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just 10%.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And your entire exemption is wiped out.
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  SPEAKER_01: So my own profitability actually disqualifies me if I just leave it sitting there.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: It becomes a massive liability tax-wise.
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  SPEAKER_01: So how do I fix a balance sheet that has too much cash on it without triggering a massive personal tax bill just to get the money out?
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  SPEAKER_00: The solution is a meticulously planned accounting process called purification.
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  SPEAKER_01: Purification, like a cleanse for your business.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Pretty much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tax practitioners use this time to clean up those non-qualifying assets so they don't trip the 90% test.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell What does that actually look like though?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it might involve extracting the excess cash over time by paying carefully structured dividends to the owners.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or it could mean reorganizing the corporate structure to strip those passive investment portfolios out entirely and move them into a completely separate holding company.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you're separating the active from the passive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is highly effective, but the legal and accounting maneuvers take time to execute and season.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, because you need that two-year history.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: None of that work can be done in the week before a letter of intent is signed.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: Theoretically, I see how a founder might trip over this, but I want to understand what this looks like in practice.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: The text details a scenario with a healthcare services founder in Nova Scotia that I think perfectly illustrates this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: That case study is the perfect embodiment of what is at stake.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's walk through it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we have a founder who built a healthcare services company with 21 years of strong, profitable history.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: She worked hard for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, over two decades of blood, sweat, and tears.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she accumulated about$1.8 million in excess cash and marketable securities sitting inside her operating company.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which sounds great on paper.
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  SPEAKER_01: It does.
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  SPEAKER_01: But because her business was valued in a way where those investments represented more than 15% of her total assets, she was over the 10% allowance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right over the line.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if a buyer had knocked on her door that day, she would have failed the 90% test and forfeited her entire lifetime capital gains exemption.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which means she would have paid an extra$350,000 in taxes just because her cash was in the wrong account.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: That is wild.
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  SPEAKER_00: Without remediation, that success would have been deeply penalized.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But because she engaged advisors 18 months before she actually planned to sell, they didn't just purify the company and save her single exemption.
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  SPEAKER_01: They used a strategy to completely change the math of the exit.
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  SPEAKER_00: They absolutely did.
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  SPEAKER_00: They went next level.
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  SPEAKER_01: The book calls this multiplication, and it involves her two adult children.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: But honestly, I'm genuinely confused by the mechanics here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can be a bit dense for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because the kids were professionals in entirely different fields, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't work in the healthcare business at all.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, they had their own careers.
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  SPEAKER_01: So how does an estate freeze legally multiply a tax shelter?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does the CRA just look at the kids and say, sure, you get a tax exemption too, even if they had nothing to do with building the company?
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know it sounds like a loophole, but it is a complex, entirely legal, and heavily utilized mechanism.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, break it down for me.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: An estate freeze does exactly what it sounds like.
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  SPEAKER_00: It freezes the current value of the company for the founder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Freezes it, how?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: The advisors had the founder exchange her existing common shares, which fluctuate in value, for fixed value preferred shares.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if the company is worth$5 million today, she holds five million in preferred shares.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her value is locked.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: It can't go up or down.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the company issues brand new common shares at a nominal value to a family trust with her adult children named as beneficiaries.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Ah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the founder keeps the value she's built up to today, but any future growth of the company is channeled into the new shares held by the trust for the kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Precisely how it works.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So over the next 18 months, as the company continued to grow and the advisors purified the balance sheet by moving that$1.8 million in excess cash out, the new value accrued to the children's trust.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when the business eventually sold to a buyer for approximately$9.5 million.
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  SPEAKER_00: The founder sold her frozen shares, and the trust sold the new common shares on behalf of the two children.
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  SPEAKER_01: And because they were all legal shareholders of a now curified active business, all three family members claimed their own individual lifetime capital gains exemptions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: They use three exemptions instead of one.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: The text lays out the math here, and it's staggering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Out of a$9.5 million sale, roughly$3.75 million of that capital gain was sheltered completely tax-free across the three of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Incredible, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: The total tax liability on that$9.5 million sale came in at approximately$1.3 million.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what would it have been without the plan?
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  SPEAKER_00: If she had done a straightforward sale on day one with no advanced planning, relying only on whatever the buyer offered, her estimated tax would have been$2.2 million.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they saved nearly$900,000.
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  SPEAKER_00: Almost a million dollars in savings.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the part that just astounds me is the advisory fees to deliver that massive 18-month legal and accounting reorganization were approximately$60,000.
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  SPEAKER_01: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which sounds like a lot until you look at the returns.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: You pay a team of experts$60,000 and they hand you back nearly a million dollars in hard tax savings.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is a return on investment you literally cannot find in the stock market or anywhere else.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Which proves the initial claim of the chapter, right?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Tax planning is not an expense, it is the highest yielding investment a founder will make prior to exiting.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's assume a founder listens to this.
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  SPEAKER_01: They do the 24-month purification, they set up their trust, and their business is a perfectly lean active asset machine.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: They're ready to go.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: They sit down at the negotiating table, and the buyer slides a term sheet across that proposes an entirely different deal structure than the founder planned for.
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  SPEAKER_00: This happens all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: The book highlights a massive tug of war between a share sale and an asset sale.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if a buyer offers me$10 million from my company, why should I care exactly how they buy it as long as the check clears for$10 million?
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  SPEAKER_00: You have to care deeply because the Canadian tax system treats those two transaction structures as entirely different events.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Just based on the paperwork.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Entirely.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: And the friction between what the seller wants and what the buyer wants is basically the central drama of mid-market mergers and acquisitions.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Drama is right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what does the seller want?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sellers almost universally demand a share sale.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because selling the shares of the corporation is the only way I get capital gains treatment, right?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Where only 50% of the gain is taxed.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it is the only way I can actually use that lifetime capital gains exemption we just spent two years purifying my company to get.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: A share sale preserves your entire tax strategy.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: But put yourself on the other side of the table for a minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm the buyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Buyers generally despise share sales.
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  SPEAKER_00: When a buyer purchases your shares, they step into your legal shoes.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: They inherit the corporate entity in its entire history.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: So if you made a payroll tax error five years ago, or if a former employee decides to sue the company next year for something that happened under your watch, the buyer now owns that liability.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yikes.
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  SPEAKER_01: They take on all the ghosts in your closet.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: All the ghosts.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: So a buyer looks at that and says, I don't want your corporate shell.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: I just want your stuff.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that is an asset sale.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Just buying the assets.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The buyer says, I will buy your equipment, your customer lists, your brand name, and your intellectual property, but I am leaving your corporate shell and all its historical liabilities behind with you.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: It gives them a clean slate.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: A completely clean slate.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: And beyond risk mitigation, asset sales offer a massive financial advantage to the buyer.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: What's the advantage?
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  SPEAKER_00: They get to step up the value of those assets and claim depreciation against their future revenues.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Which saves them money.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: It saves them an enormous amount of tax over the next decade.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but if the buyer forces an asset sale so they can get a clean slate and claim depreciation, what actually happens to my tax bill as the seller?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: It is usually devastating.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Devastating.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: First, your lifetime capital gains exemption does not apply to the sale of corporate assets.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: It only applies to shares.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: So that shelter is just gone.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Poof.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Gone.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Second, affet sales often trigger something called recapture, which can create a shocking tax burden.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Recapture.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: What does that actually mean mechanically?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: How does the government recapture something I already own?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, think about the heavy equipment or machinery you use in your business.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Over the years, the CRA allowed you to claim depreciation on that equipment to lower your annual tax bill, right?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: They were operating on the assumption that the equipment was wearing out and losing value over time.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that makes sense.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's getting older.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: But if you sell those assets to a buyer for a premium price, the CRA looks at the transaction and says, wait a minute, that equipment didn't actually lose its value.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: We want all those years of tax breaks back.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: They actually claw it back.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: They recapture that depreciation and tax it not at the favorable capital gains rate, but at your much higher regular corporate income rate.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: That is brutal.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: So we have a total standoff here.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: A massive standoff.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: The buyer wants an asset sale to protect themselves and lower their future taxes, and I desperately need a share sale to protect my millions in tax exemptions and avoid recapture.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: How does a deal ever actually close if both sides are financially incentivized to fight to the death over the structure?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: It gets resolved through intense financial modeling and compromise.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to meet in the middle.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: You have to.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can never agree to a structure without modeling the after-tax implications first.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: So the buyer might have to pay more.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: If a buyer absolutely insists on an asset sale because they are terrified of your corporate history, the seller must demand a gross up or a price premium to compensate for the massive tax that they're about to take.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: So a$10 million asset sale might leave you with far less actual cash in your bank account than an$8 million share sale.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Precisely.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: The top line purchase price is essentially a vanity metric.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: A vanity metric.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love that term.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's true though.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: The only number that matters is the net proceeds you keep after the CRA takes its share.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: This sounds like an absolute minefield.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: It makes me wonder what other hidden hurdles are lurking in the fine print right before closing.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there are plenty.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: The book lists several other factors that require years of runaway.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: For instance, it mentions provincial residents.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Can a founder really just pack up and move to Alberta to save money on their exit?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, provincial tax rates vary wildly across Canada.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Moving from a high-tax province to a lower tax province before a massive liquidity event can save a fortune.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: But the CRA must hate that.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, they scrutinize this heavily.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be a genuine, legally sound relocation.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like actually moving your life.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, severing residential ties in your old province, getting new licenses, everything.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: And it has to happen well in advance of the sale.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: It cannot be a paper exercise just for close bike.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: The text also brings up the alternative minimum tax or AMT.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Does the government really have a backup tax system that triggers even if you follow all the rules for your exemption?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: They do, unfortunately.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: The AMT is designed to ensure that high-income earners who use massive deductions at exemptions, like your LCGE, still pay a baseline level of tax.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: So even if you do everything right, you might still get hit.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: It can catch sellers completely off guard in the year they sell their business, creating a severe, unexpected cash flow crunch.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds incredibly stressful.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: While AMT is often recoverable in future years, you have to actually have the cash on hand to pay it in the year of the sale.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, here's a scenario.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: What if the buyer doesn't actually pay me all the cash up front?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: What if we agree to an earnout where I get paid over, say, three or four years based on the company's future performance?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Am I paying tax on money I haven't even received yet?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: That is where your advisors would utilize capital gains reserves.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Capital gains reserves?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: How does that work?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: The tax code allows you to spread the recognition of that capital gain over a maximum of five years, matching your tax burden to the actual cash installments you receive from the buyer.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank goodness.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you never want to write a massive check to the CRA based on earnout money that might never actually materialize.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: And what if a U.S.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: private equity firm swoops in to buy my Canadian business?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: The cross-border implications must be a nightmare.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: It is an incredibly complex area.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: I can only imagine.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: When foreign buyers acquire Canadian companies, international tax treaties dictate who gets to withhold taxes and at what rate.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you need specialized help for that.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, without a doubt.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: You need cross-border tax experts modeling that entirely separate layer of complexity long before the deal is signed to prevent double taxation.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we have covered a tremendous amount of ground here today, from the fitness tests for your assets to the tug of war over deal structure.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: What is the core summary you want everyone listening to walk away with?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: The primary message is that a business sale is fundamentally a tax-structured liquidity event wrapped in a marketing exercise.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: Wrapped in a marketing exercise.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the perfect way to phrase it.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: The advisors who start pulling your business apart and restructuring it two years before a buyer is ever contacted are the ones who truly shape your final payout.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because the window for this highly lucrative tax planning does not open on signing day.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: It closes on signing day.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: The timeline is the real boss.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we want to extend our deepest gratitude to the Shawnessy Group for providing these incredibly illuminating insights.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: This isn't just theory, this is the actual blueprint for keeping the wealth you've built.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: It really is the definitive playbook.
• 21:13
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• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And to get the complete full picture of how to prepare your business for an exit, you really need to pick up the book we've been referencing today.
• 21:26
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• 21:27
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• 21:34
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• 21:36
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• 21:39
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• 21:43
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• 21:51
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• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked about murky waters, financial fitness tests, and millions of dollars hanging in the balance base purely on the calendar.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: To close us out, what is the one thought you want to leave ringing in the ears of our listener today?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to ask yourself this one lingering question.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you were to unexpectedly sell your business tomorrow, would the CRA accidentally become your biggest beneficiary simply because you didn't look at the calendar today?