Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Know Your Customer: The CRM Advantage for Business Growth
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavi Shima Ayede.
- 0:04I saw sales and marketing challenges and I'm making
- 0:07today's recording in my living room.
- 0:09So you're going to hear some interruptions, you know,
- 0:11neighbour's house being renovated and all of that.
- 0:15Now the goal of this podcast is not to talk about my neighbors,
- 0:17but why we gather here is to do some business education.
- 0:21So when you're done listening to the podcast, please spread the
- 0:24word so that your friends and family members in Nigeria and
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- 0:31They can do that by subscribing on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, any
- 0:35player of their choice. And if you in particular have
- 0:38any sales and marketing questions, then bring them to
- 0:40me. You can call, you can SMS, you
- 0:42can WhatsApp me on 08064662140. So today on the podcast, I want
- 0:53us to be brief and I want us to look at reasons why every
- 0:58business needs a CRM. It's something I used to talk
- 1:01about in the past. I haven't mentioned it in a
- 1:03while, but some stuff has gone on.
- 1:06You know, my personal life that has just hit home again as per
- 1:12this is a reason why every business needs a CRM.
- 1:16And I'll keep saying this because lots of you running
- 1:18businesses now, you don't have ACRM, you don't even know what
- 1:23the CRM is. And because of that, you don't
- 1:26even know why this kind of thing is important.
- 1:29So let's just get straight into the cocoa.
- 1:32So it is the background. My my wife, she has dreadlocks.
- 1:37She has really nice hair. And I've always been telling
- 1:39her, you know, right from toasting stage to courtship to
- 1:43marriage, as in she has good hair.
- 1:46And it took her a while before she got these dreadlocks was a
- 1:49very long time because, you know, consulting with, you know,
- 1:54people at work, talking to her friends, talking to other people
- 1:58who have dreadlocks, you know, people making referrals, you
- 2:01know, how doing research online, you know, stuff like that.
- 2:05You know, those of us who are meant, we don't really
- 2:06appreciate the, the mental gymnastics that women go
- 2:10through, you know, before they decide on some of these things.
- 2:13Because for we guys, if we want to cut our hair, we just stand
- 2:17up and cut our hair. You know, it's that simple.
- 2:20But The thing is for some kind of businesses like this, you
- 2:23know, salon space, hair making space, sometimes a potential
- 2:27customer like my wife is taking months and maybe sometimes years
- 2:32in the making before they decide, now let me do dreadlocks
- 2:36or let me do Gerry Coil or let me do this or let me do that.
- 2:39Sometimes it's a very, very long time in the making and to be
- 2:44honest, this whole thing of natural hair and you know, or
- 2:47whatnot between me and my wife, you know, it's a discussion that
- 2:49we've been having since like 2000 and nine, 2010, you know,
- 2:53up until now. So picture this, pretend now
- 2:58that you have a salon, you have a hair kind of business.
- 3:04My wife has been considering this thing for a very long time.
- 3:06She finally settled on one place in Guerinpa.
- 3:09The place was highly recommended that I know if you go here, they
- 3:13know how to lock your hair, they know how to do this and how to
- 3:15do that. So that's what we've been doing.
- 3:17That's why my hair, my wife went to unlock her hair in Guerin
- 3:20Park. Then I used to think was a
- 3:25straightforward something that once you go and do the dreadlock
- 3:27does it, you don't finish. But actually it turns out that
- 3:30when you do the dreadlock, you're supposed to go back and
- 3:33then they'll do something again. They'll say, they'll say they
- 3:35are relocking your hair or something like that.
- 3:38So you guys go for touch up every I don't know whether it's
- 3:42every month I'll be every two, two months or something.
- 3:45So anyway so she has done the dreadlock then she has been
- 3:47going back to now be relocking the thing.
- 3:52So 2 days ago now my wife said time don't reach it's time to
- 3:56lock the hairs. OK no problem.
- 3:58So where am I be I need to know so I'll go and drop her.
- 4:00She said, no, no, no, I'm not going to go and I'm going to say
- 4:03to so, so, so, so so Plaza. I said, what happened now?
- 4:07She said, well, don't worry about place.
- 4:10That the ogre, the person who runs the salon, the woman who
- 4:13runs it, that she's the one that has the main skill when it comes
- 4:16to locking and everybody else, they know how to lock the hair.
- 4:21See, I'm not a hair person, so don't I can't explain to you how
- 4:25you lock somebody's hair when it comes to dreadlock.
- 4:27So the same way those of you who don't understand, the same way
- 4:31you don't understand the same way me, I don't understand.
- 4:32But Shard is the process. You go and lock the hair first,
- 4:37then you now come back, somebody will now relock it and continue
- 4:40to be relocking again I think for like 1 year before you know
- 4:44you're good to go. You now resemble Bob Marley or
- 4:49what's her name, Whoopi Goldberg.
- 4:51You now have that kind of hair, Tracy Chapman, that kind of, you
- 4:54know, correct dreadlocks. So I said that your guy is the
- 4:59main person who has the skill when it comes to locking the
- 5:01hair. Then the people, the employees
- 5:06in the salon, they know how to lock the hair, but they don't
- 5:09know how to do relocking. That's the part where you go and
- 5:12do touch up. So because of that, now my wife
- 5:17was not happy with the relocking sessions.
- 5:20So picture this, you're a business owner, you have a
- 5:23customer. The customer was happy the first
- 5:26time, but the customer is not happy the subsequent times.
- 5:30You understand what I'm saying? My wife went for the locking,
- 5:34she was happy, She went back for the relocking.
- 5:37Since then she has not been happy.
- 5:40So because she was not happy with the relocking sessions,
- 5:44that is how she now discovered this new location in Wu, say 2,
- 5:49from a colleague at work, another person who has
- 5:51dreadlocks as well. And you know, when our
- 5:55customers, when they find each other, they start forming small,
- 5:57small communities. And that's how these
- 5:59recommendations get made. So in the beginning was me and
- 6:02my wife talking about these things.
- 6:04Later on, my wife started finding other people, excuse me,
- 6:07who are in the dreadlocking community, you know, people who
- 6:10have locked their hair since a long time ago.
- 6:14So that's how she discovered this new location in Wu Say Too.
- 6:17So that was it. I went and dropped her in Wu Say
- 6:21too. And to be honest, when I picked
- 6:23up me and my children, the difference was clear.
- 6:26I won't lie, I don't understand how you lock her, but I just
- 6:30know that once I saw my wife the way the thing was looking clean
- 6:34and was not just looking clean this way that the thing I can't
- 6:38explain it here, but I could see the difference and I was like
- 6:41OK, OK, no I understand. So from now on this is the place
- 6:46I'll be. My said of course that this is
- 6:47the place that these people they know what they're doing and the
- 6:53thing was even quick because the other place when we go and drop
- 6:56my wife to do relocking will take like 6 hours.
- 6:59This will say to place I think was like 2 1/2 hours till I
- 7:03finished even myself. I was surprised.
- 7:05So anyway that's how the episode ended.
- 7:12Some of you now be asking now look what does this have to do
- 7:15with me? I'm not in business of doing
- 7:18here. So this whole story you told me
- 7:19now, I don't understand, you know, like was my own.
- 7:24This is your own now. The owner of the saloon just
- 7:30lost the customer. All of us list on this podcast
- 7:37right now. We're all business owners.
- 7:41There are times when we will lose customers.
- 7:44But the owner of this salon in Guerinpa who does dreadlocks,
- 7:48she has lost the customer. And guess what?
- 7:50She will never know why. Let me repeat, this woman has
- 7:57lost a customer but she will never know why XYZ number of
- 8:02customers did not come again for their appointment last week.
- 8:07In fact, to be honest, the way we Nigerians run our businesses,
- 8:11it will be at the end of the year when it's now time to be
- 8:14sending everybody Christmas message that they will now
- 8:17discover that oh, this woman that has been doing relocking
- 8:21with us, she didn't show again. So it's in December, they
- 8:26realize. And by that time, of course, you
- 8:28know, it's too late. If somebody has been relocking
- 8:31here with you every two, two months, every 3, three months
- 8:36and then they stop coming in February.
- 8:39March is only in December that you discovered.
- 8:42Don't you know that by then? They've moved on.
- 8:44They found a new hair place to be relocking their hair and the
- 8:46things you don't know why? This is why every business owner
- 8:52needs a CRM, because most of U.S. business owners listening
- 8:58on this podcast right now do not have CRMS.
- 9:01We have no system to find out whether our customers are happy.
- 9:05We have no system to find out whether there's a problem with
- 9:09our customers. We have no system to schedule
- 9:12the next appointment with our customers and we have no system
- 9:17to follow up and confirm appointments with our customers.
- 9:23There's a technical way of defining CRM and I think
- 9:26sometimes the technical definitions, excuse me, the
- 9:29technical definitions of CRMS don't allow you to understand
- 9:32why this thing is important. All these things I've said now
- 9:35for the purposes of today's episode, that is a CRM.
- 9:38That's what the CRM does. CRM, customer relationship
- 9:43management tool. If you run a salon, it will help
- 9:47you to know, are my customers happy?
- 9:51What are the problems my customers are facing?
- 9:54When is this person supposed to come for the next appointment?
- 9:57How will we schedule this appointment when we have
- 10:01scheduled the thing? How are we going to follow up
- 10:04with this person to confirm that they're coming for the
- 10:06appointment? That is the definition of ACRM,
- 10:12and too many business businesses are losing customers and they
- 10:17don't even know why. And there's nothing to prevent
- 10:19them losing customers. Now, if the hair salon had the
- 10:23CRM, in this case, let us pretend that they don't want
- 10:27fancy CRM. So all they need is just diary,
- 10:30physical diary in the studio. Now the reason why I'm starting
- 10:33from Diaries, because my initial professional background was in
- 10:37law. And when I graduated school, you
- 10:39know, it's not as if computers were everywhere like that.
- 10:43So back then it was diary that we used to use.
- 10:49Every lawyer, the junior lawyer, you have your own personal
- 10:52diary. Then there'll be 1 master diary
- 10:56in the chambers where the head of chambers, or should I say
- 10:59like head of operations is in control of that diary.
- 11:02And so from the partners, the auger having their diary, from
- 11:05we, the juniors having our own diary and from the office itself
- 11:09having a central diary, That is how we used to manage
- 11:12everything. Who is supposed to go for what
- 11:14case, what time in which location?
- 11:18Who is supposed to have a meeting with this client where
- 11:21and to discuss what issues it is from diary, paper, paper,
- 11:24pencil, pencil and byro as I wish to manage everything.
- 11:29So back then that was our CRM, our customer or client
- 11:34relationship management tool, Diary, pencil and paper.
- 11:39It doesn't have to be pencil and paper, but I'm just trying to
- 11:42show you how. Anything that you use as ACRM
- 11:47can help prevent some simple business problems that people
- 11:52are facing in their businesses. So the owner of the salon in
- 11:56Guerin panel, if they had paper and pencil diary there, there
- 12:01will be something there to say. Missus Ososo.
- 12:04And so came for today's session at 8:00.
- 12:09You will now be able to schedule a customer service Rep to call
- 12:12the person next week or two days later to say thank you very much
- 12:16for coming in for the session. While you are there.
- 12:18I hope there was no problem. The hairstylist was not rude to
- 12:22you. I hope there's no problem.
- 12:23I hope you're enjoying your services.
- 12:26Is there any particular problem that you have now?
- 12:29Guess what? At that point in the
- 12:31conversation when they say, I hope there's no problem, is
- 12:33there any particular problem? Is there something we could have
- 12:35done better? There are some customers who
- 12:37will say this relocking that your girl did for me.
- 12:41I am not too happy with this relocking.
- 12:45Say Madam, what's the problem? I don't know.
- 12:47It's just the way that The thing is looking.
- 12:48I don't know, I'm just not happy with this relocking.
- 12:51OK, Madam, we're very, very sorry.
- 12:53Please come in. Let's Madam have a look at it.
- 12:56Because Madam is the one who is the pro when it comes to
- 13:01draglocks. Let Madam have a look at it.
- 13:03When she now comes here, Madam has a look at it.
- 13:05Since Madame is the professional, Madame will now
- 13:07know OK that this is the problem.
- 13:10That may be Ching area and in case you don't know how to lock
- 13:12very well, we need to train the two of them, you understand?
- 13:18You see how a CRM is going to help you improve your business
- 13:22and make sure you don't lose customers because you have
- 13:24something, even if it's pencil and paper, that is prompting
- 13:27you. Call the customer, are they
- 13:30happy? Is there a problem?
- 13:33Call the customer, remind the customer this is the next
- 13:36session. When are you supposed to show?
- 13:38This is where you're supposed to show.
- 13:42Follow up, confirm appointments, anything that is prompting you
- 13:47to do these things, that is ACRM.
- 13:53So if you don't want to do anything fancy, because there's
- 13:57one that I use, I won't. I use Zoho.
- 14:00That's what I use. Excuse me if you don't use
- 14:05anything fancy, Google Calendar is there.
- 14:09Use your Google Calendar, use your notes in phones, use your
- 14:12reminders apps, use your whatever.
- 14:14There are options if you don't want to do anything tech.
- 14:19I told you that there are some of us that we started off with
- 14:23with diary, pencil and paper. That's how some of us started.
- 14:28You can do the same thing as well.
- 14:31There are some people, one guy I know who is still in the event
- 14:33space, his own is Excel sheet, Microsoft Excel, Excel, that is
- 14:37what they use. They'll put everything in Excel
- 14:39sheet, whatever it is. Every business needs ACRM.
- 14:43Everybody, every business needs some kind of system that is
- 14:46going to help you figure out are my customers happy?
- 14:49Is there any problem? When next are we supposed to see
- 14:52them? How are we going to schedule
- 14:54this thing? How are we going to follow up?
- 14:56How are we going to confirm appointments?
- 14:59So CRM, the definition is wide, but for the purposes of this
- 15:03podcast, anything you use to do this, that is ACRM and every
- 15:08business needs ACRM because you are losing customers.
- 15:10You have no idea why and it's so sad.
- 15:15Such a pity because I can assure you that my wife is not the only
- 15:19person who has left this, who has left this salon to go and
- 15:26find another place. The tragedy is just that you'll
- 15:28never know why the customer you've lost, you've lost no
- 15:31problem. But at least if you know what
- 15:33the problem is, you will know how you can fix it.
- 15:36You know how to can say, oh, sorry, please come back.
- 15:39We'll do it again at half the cost or we'll do it again for
- 15:44free or thank you very much for the information.
- 15:47It was so so who hounded your hair?
- 15:50We'll make sure that he's properly trained so that by the
- 15:52time you come for the next session, you will not have any
- 15:55problems. Like, I don't know, whatever the
- 15:58solution, at least you will know what the problem is.
- 16:02So that's why every business needs ACRM.
- 16:05So that's all for today, folks. Remember, if you have any sales
- 16:07and marketing questions, bring them to me.
- 16:09You can call, you can SMS, you can WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 16:15Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 16:17I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones or
- 16:21in your speakers.