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How To Train Like an F1 Driver | MindSets Podcast | Episode 87 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Mindsets
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  Podcast, episode 87. Charles, tell me what's up.
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  We're honing in on the 100, aren't we?
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  Cyber surely? What should we do for it?
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  We've got to have a party, a mindset's party, the centurion.
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  I want everybody that is listening right now to come up
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  with a really good idea, and then next episode we're going to
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  ask you for those. Ideas.
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  Oh, that's such a good idea. And then you're going to tell
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  us. And then we have some time to
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  organize it. Exactly, we'll have I've already
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  gone for us. I've.
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  Already got an idea but I don't want to say it.
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  Is it a bit mile? That's such a good idea.
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  But no, I wasn't thinking that I was.
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  I thought 100K ski egg. What between us or each?
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  I reckon each. Why not?
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  Yeah, go on then. So today we're going to kind of
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  go off some of the news and we'll get to that very quickly.
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  But we're going to talk about Formula One drivers and how they
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  train. We took a a week off talking
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  about how people train last week and we got a bit lost.
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  We did. So we're back and this week
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  we're doing something totally different.
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  We haven't really gone down the motorsport route before and so
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  hoping you guys are keen for that.
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  This comes off a bit of success and might as well go straight
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  into the two-minute news of this.
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  You ready for that? Let's go do.
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  You want to start us off or should I just carry on just.
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  Carry it on, I've got the timer rolling.
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  OK, so first of all, Kimi Antonelli, he won the Miami
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  Grand Prix this weekend. That's three Grand Prix wins in
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  a row for this crazy. Bear in mind this is second ever
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  season in Formula One, so pretty mad.
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  Another thing that happened though was there was a Sprint
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  race beforehand. So if I go through the full list
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  of results in the Sprint race, which obviously happens first,
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  Landon Norris won followed by Oscar Piastry.
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  Good weekend for McLaren. They seem to like doing well in
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  Miami. Then followed by Leclerc.
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  Now in the actual race after further loads of qualification
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  we had, as I said, Antonetti won, Kimi Antonelli followed by
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  Landon Norris followed by Oscar Piastry because that wasn't
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  going to happen. Leclerc was going to finish
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  third again, but he spun, had a bit of an accident, managed to
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  hit barrier, kind of kept it rolling, but then got overtaken.
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  So Oscar Piastry got on the podium and George Russell
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  managed to sneak his way through for some extra points.
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  Mercedes-Benz as well. There you go, MG, Sorry.
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  I've I've got I've got something to come back on that, but I
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  don't want to take up from the 2 minute news.
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  So we'll sideline Leinster B Toulon in the European Investech
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  European Champions Cup and then Bordeau B Bath this weekend.
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  So it's going to be a Leinster versus to Lensa versus Bath,
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  sorry, Leicester versus Bordeaux.
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  We got there eventually final, which is going to be at the bow
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  at the end of May. And then Nellie Corder, who he
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  spoke about in last episode, I think on the ladies PGA, she's
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  won again in Mexico. So she's having, she's having a
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  hot season. Yeah, Hot St., which is exciting
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  for her. One final thing to come into
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  here is the High Rocks Cardiff. It was a great weekend to be
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  called Charlie. If you wanted to look at the pro
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  men's solo winner, that was Charlie Bottle.
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  If you wanted to look at the pro women's solo, that was Charlie
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  Sell. If you then go back to the pro
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  men's double s, that was Charlie Bottrell and Jake Deardon.
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  And then if you look at the women's pro double s, we had
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  Charlie Sell and Lawrence Stockley taking the win there.
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  So pretty good point scoring weekend for those all round
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  doing really well. Those with the beady eyes will
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  know that Charlie and Jake need to go and race somewhere else to
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  qualify for the Elites next year.
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  Talking of British teams that qualify, qualifying for the
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  Elites pretty nicely so far, Olly Russell and Travis Owls,
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  they won in Warsaw and so they've got 105 from that and
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  they went over to Lisbon for a business trip and got it done.
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  They're going to Helsinki this weekend to ultimately secure the
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  bag. That's pretty much all news.
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  I think that was actually like 2 seconds inside 2 minutes, then
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  we smashed. That, yeah, we did very well.
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  Nice. Well, we're going straight into
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  the topic. Those of you that are
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  immediately concerned about where's growing, my gear's gone.
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  Don't worry, it's just coming later.
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  We thought we would got holding the topic back too far, so we're
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  going to swap it around this time.
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  If you don't like it, let us know.
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  We'll go back to it. Wait, can we put on pause for a
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  second? Because the thing I wanted to
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  say was, did you see that stat about Aston Martin and their
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  performance over the weekend where in across all of
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  qualifying they didn't go faster than like any of the Formula Two
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  teams? No, I didn't see that.
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  Something like that. I can't remember the actual
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  specifics, but they're so slow that they're being out qualified
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  by Formula Two cars. I also saw something last week.
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  I mean that first of all, that's terrible.
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  I saw something last week. Aston Martin have been testing a
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  new car. Like completely new IT it.
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  Looks like a Formula One car, but kind of a bit more boxed and
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  I don't know if they're testing like a concept Formula One car,
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  if they're testing like next season's car, but it was blacked
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  out. It looked unreal.
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  And it's I think the reason I don't think it is a genuine
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  Formula One car is because out of V10 engine and everyone in
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  the comments was saying how nice this sounds, Formula One should
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  go back to using that. But it it was quick like quicker
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  than Formula One cars currently winning races.
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  So it's it's great that they're able to spend some time focusing
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  on that, but they I think they've forgotten what they're.
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  Supposed they're doing this season already.
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  I'm not surprised. But yeah, so going into today's
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  topic off the back of Kimmy Antoneli success, a lot of more
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  people again are taking a bit more of an interest into what on
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  earth goes on in the Formula One world.
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  Drive to survive. I think it started like 6-7
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  years ago, which made me feel quite old.
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  That was really tough to head. Yeah.
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  That brought a whole new wave of people's interests, which is
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  really good for the sport. Somehow my girlfriend now
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  watches Formula One with me. Weird, but with that, people pay
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  much closer attention to the drivers lives.
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  A lot of the drivers now have YouTube channels, they share
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  more and more about their lives, but what they don't actually
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  tend to share, because no one seems to be that interested
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  apart from us, is the training plan.
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  Now, unlike previous episodes where we would try and go and
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  get Kimmy Antonelli's driving like what he does in a week,
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  that's not necessarily what we'll be able to give.
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  Especially because Kimmy is like 12 years old, so like he doesn't
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  really have a well founded structure routine yet.
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  Obviously Mercedes are building that around him right now and
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  he's having great success with whatever they are doing.
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  But their training is broken down very similarly to how like
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  some of the Iron Man training we spoke about before is done in
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  that they've got their gym sessions, that kind of thing,
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  but then they've got cardio, then they've got specific
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  training they need to do to be behind the wheel.
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  So the first one we're going to talk about, which is different
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  from most of the other sports, is neck training.
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  There is a photo, I don't know if you've seen this, of Charles
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  Leclerc going out with his fiance, No wife now.
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  Yeah, yeah. Going out for dinner.
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  And his neck is about as wide as her waist.
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  God. Which is actually.
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  Wide, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good looking couple.
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  Oh. It's a great looking couple.
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  It's a cute as hell dog. As well.
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  Yeah, they've got a nice. I'm not a big fan of small dogs,
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  but that's a cute dog. So neck neck training has been
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  widely kind of attached to driver training, but I don't
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  think people really understand how important it is.
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  If you want a bit of fun, go and watch a video of someone that
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  hasn't done any driver training. Sit in with a like a race driver
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  in one of the like Formula 2, Formula three cars.
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  You'll see them go around a turn or even brake and their head
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  just goes, they're stuck to the seat in front of them.
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  And that's when you actually see in the same video, you see the
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  same driver just like seeing like nothing's happening.
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  So in Formula One cars, when they go round some of those high
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  speed turns, they're experienced 5 to 6G, which that's five to
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  six times your body weight is basically how to convert that.
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  And corners aren't necessary like for a split second.
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  They can go on for like 4 or 5 seconds if you're really pushing
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  through them. So being able to withstand that
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  it's not even necessarily about like just trying to fight it,
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  it's making sure that your vision can stay completely and
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  while you go through. It I think also like the you'll
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  be able to go into far more detail than I would will with
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  your engineering background. But imagine when you're going
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  around the corner, the car is literally like on a set of
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  rails, like a train that's. A quote from the town within.
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  It's on the rails. Yeah, yeah, it's on rails.
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  And so as a result, they can go round so fast because of the
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  downforce that's being created by the Air Force in the car
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  onto. So they go round so fast and
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  that's what's creating like a fighter pilot, what's creating
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  the G Force, which they then have to not only think about
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  contending, but also drive a freaking race car at the same
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  time, which is like, it's amazing.
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  The the only way that I can really let anyone who's
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  listening to the podcast right now understand what it feels
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  like the way that the cars are designed very quickly.
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  If you imagine a plane wing, the wings that you see on the
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  Formula One cars are essentially just upside down versions.
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  So if it can take a plane off, it shoves the car down.
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  That's the downforce. However, what you also have
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  underneath the car, and these were banned for a while, but
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  they've come back, is you have a set of air paths and Airways
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  under the car which suck the car down.
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  So then you've got the sucking going on and you've got the
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  pushing and the pushing. So then that's why there's so
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  much impact when cars are following each other and getting
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  slipstream and that sort of thing.
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  But when you go round the turn, being sucked down is so
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  important. And like you said, it's being on
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  like being on rails. So if you imagine you're on a
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  roller coaster, for those of you that have done stealth in Thorpe
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  Park, you're very fortunate at the actual fact that it goes up
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  before it turns left. Because on some of those roller
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  coasters where you weren't expecting it because you're in
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  the dark or something thinking like there's the, I can't
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  remember the ride that's in Space Mountain.
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  When you're in Space Mountain in Disneyland, you just suddenly
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  turn. You can't see a thing and your
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  head you whipped one time. It's such a good reference
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  because I think lots of people will be able to resonate with
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  that, but you get smashed into like what's holding you, like
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  the cage. And that's the exact same sort
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  of a lot less. Yeah.
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  So when it comes to neck training, a lot of people might
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  think and go back to the classic bodybuilder training that you
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  see where they've got the the, like, weird leather thing they
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  put on their head with a weight plate hanging on it.
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  And they do use that. The difference between a
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  bodybuilder training specific things like their traps that
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  give them more visible size. Formula One driver has to have
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  strength in every single muscle fiber essentially to be able to
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  cope with the change in that force direction as they go round
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  a. Turn.
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  Yeah, I'd imagine it's more isometric than in.
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  Like you're actually holding a static you're resisting rather
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  than a bodybuilder who might be doing loads and loads of reps.
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  A lighter load to develop size. Exactly.
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  So they, they will actually be using those like those, I don't
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  even know what they're called, like neck, head wear accessory.
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  Yeah, he's definitely not a form of clothing that you would wear
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  out. But yeah, they, so they'll put
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  that on and they will do, they will like lie down and they will
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  do like neck lifts, essentially trying to progressively overload
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  the strength with weight plates that hang in a bit like a dip
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  belt or a But the other thing that they will do, like you
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  said, is some isometric holds. So one of the best way for
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  people to visualize this, a lot of people listening might have
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  been told to do Copenhagen's where you lie sideways like a
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  plank, but then you have one of your legs up on a bench and
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  that's training your add up to muscle in your leg.
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  But they basically do that with their neck.
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  So then their head is on the edge and then they lie sideways
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  for as long as possible. And then to make it harder,
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  rather than their feet being on the ground, they'll lift their
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  feet up again. So then you've essentially doing
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  Copenhagen with your neck, which is mad.
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  So they'll hold that as long as possible.
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  And then every once in a while they'll go in for testing with
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  the team and they will literally have a member of the team foot
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  up on the table like they're trying to RIP the handle off a
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  door. And the other end will be
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  attached to their neck and also in the chain.
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  They'll be like a force measure and it will say how much force
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  your next table to withstand and it's.
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  Just it's amazing. Yeah.
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  Yeah. It's really, really.
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  The next thing which they have to train for similar reasons is
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  their core. So you'll also see online these
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  videos of I think there's a famous 1 of Checo Perez where
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  he's holding these two handles in front like he's on a roller
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  coaster and all of a sudden he has to fight the rotation and do
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  it as possible. When it changes direction,
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  you've got to fight it. So core is a massive thing
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  because if you're going to think about they're in these bucket
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  seats and as much as you're trying to keep your neck stable
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  for your, your vision's purpose, if your body starts falling away
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  or we're stuck to the side of the, of the vehicle of the, of
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  the cockpit, basically, then good luck trying to use your
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  arms to stay. And also like what's your neck
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  attached to, attached to your body?
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  So it's like if you can have stability through the full
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  trunk, you're much more likely to be able to like stay in a in
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  a stable position when you go around these corners.
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  Yeah. And so with that, again, it's
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  more isometric hold. There is a degree of like using
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  weights to do stuff. But as I'm sure everybody knows,
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  like, you will do things like planks and it gets to a point
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  where you do it for so long. And I think the world record for
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  plank, by the way, is like 36 hours, which is insane.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I've seen a video of some
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  guy holding it reading a magazine.
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  Yeah, but there's there's no point in in fact, there was a
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  guy who planked the entire length of the two hour marathon
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  world record. I saw online what it there like
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  he did it there Silly. But they're obviously not going
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  to do that because at a certain point the benefit is just not on
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  theirs. But they will be doing things
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  like planks. They will be mostly doing
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  rotational core activation though and a lot of it will also
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  be preventative injury. And you might be thinking like
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  what goes on there, but in some of the crashes because of the
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  geos are in the crashes, if they're a, if they're able to do
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  the reactive core training, if you're thinking like a Med ball,
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  you throw a wall and catch. That's the sort of thing they do
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  still have to do. It's great for building strength
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  on impact, but when you're actually thinking about the
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  impact they might have, it's really protected for the body
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  and the spine. I think it's quite, quite an
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  interesting one. Like they all have like personal
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  trainers who create their programs and it's very sport
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  specific. It's like you say, it's a lot of
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  neck and core, but also when you think about F1 as a sport, the
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  cars are always being designed to be as light as possible.
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  So I think it might have been Lewis Hamilton as well who said
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  there's like there's almost a limit to how heavy he can be.
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  And they all, all the drivers are tiny.
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  Basically the small you are the best.
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  And you look at Kimmy Antonelli, the guy's tiny.
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  He might have a massive neck, but if he's in the gym and he's
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  putting on loads of muscle mass, he's going to make the car
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  slower. So there's like this balance
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  between I need to be fit, I need to be training, and I need to be
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  healthy and I need to be strong, but I don't want to be too heavy
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  because it's going to be detrimental to my overall
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  performance as a driver. That's exactly it.
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  And even to the point where if if you didn't know this, most
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  Formula One drivers are actually quite short because again, just
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  by simply being taller, you weigh more.
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  So when it comes to their training, like you said, a large
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  amount of it might be body weight training with like pull
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  ups and that sort of thing. And they are having to build
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  muscle around all of the joints to again, be protective, be able
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  to withstand the G forces through those turns.
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  You can imagine grip strength is actually quite an important
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  thing because when you're dealing with not even just like
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  having to steer and do that for often two to three hours
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  depending on how long the race actually does go on for or some
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  longer practice sessions, that kind of thing.
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  But the stress, like anybody you grip tight and just being able
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  to deal with that over the period of time And I've gone go
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  karting and I get off and I'm like.
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  And also like the vibrations that you're going through,
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  whether it's the bumps in the in the road or it's the engine
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  vibration, you're constantly holding on to something that's
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  vibrating. I don't know how much the the
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  gear changing is going to affect your grip, but that's another
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  thing to contend with. If we keep it motorsport, but a
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  little bit more grip specific. Moto GP, Imagine cranking on the
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  brakes as hard as you can. Like a lot of the motorcycle
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  riders, they're like a lot of their trainings just grip and a
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  lot of them will spend time on the rowing machine because one,
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  it's good for fitness, but two, they're constantly gripping.
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  I don't know if this is a rumour and I might have said it on the
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  podcast before, but there's like a, a sack which holds fluid in
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  your forearm when you contract, when you grip something.
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  And I think you can have that removed.
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  And a lot of the motor GP riders have that like surgically
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  removed so they don't get the detrimental impact of gripping
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  the whole time. But I'm I'm.
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  We need to Fact Check that because that sounds like
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  something now that I've just made a.
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  Real fact. But yeah, if we Fact Check that.
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  That's going to. Be a viral reel.
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  Yeah, sure. So you see this on Instagram
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  before you listen to this episode.
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  Just post it anyway as rage bait because it's like so Not true
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  whatsoever but I said it with confidence.
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  I mean, yeah, it was believable and I'm now hooked on it.
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  I love sack the arm sack. It must be other things.
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  I actually remember when Drive Survive started, one of the
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  first episodes, it was Carlos Sainz in a gym in Cobham, which
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  isn't that far away from here, being trained.
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  And I remember just watching and like, it was a bit tough to
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  watch because the weights were also quite like, they weren't
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  very high. But the thing that was really
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  tough about it was it didn't look like he'd done it very
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  often. And I was like, this is very.
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  Was he new? Was he new to F1?
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  He wasn't that. I mean he definitely wasn't old
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  in F1 but he I wouldn't have said he was new.
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  Per say And why was he in Cobham?
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  So because all of the F, all of the F1 teams are pretty much
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  based in Milton Keynes, bar Ferrari who are in Italy, and
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  then you've got McLaren who are in Woking, which is pretty close
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  to Cobham. He was racing from McLaren at
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  the time, yeah. He was racing from McLaren, so
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  it might have not been like the first season, I can't actually
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  remember when he would have been driving for McLaren, but it was
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  around that sort of time. It was.
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  It was a pretty normal area thing to be.
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  There's the the comment about all the drivers being short.
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  I want to know how tall Yuki Sanoda is, but I reckon he's
• 17:53
  like, he's tiny, isn't he? I think I think he's like 5 foot
• 17:56
  45. He's little, but there's also
• 17:58
  like a Drive to Survive episode where he's doing some training
• 18:02
  with his trainer and he just hates it.
• 18:05
  He's just like a long spoiled kid, isn't he?
• 18:07
  If we're being honest, I don't think any.
• 18:08
  I mean, I'm, we spoke about it last week with George Grassley
• 18:12
  running ridiculously fast times. Just because you're an athlete
• 18:15
  doesn't mean you love the gym. It's actually quite rare that
• 18:17
  the athletes love the gym side of it because they'd rather be
• 18:20
  doing their sport more. I think that's the same with
• 18:22
  those guys. Is that like driving on the face
• 18:25
  of it and definitely in history wasn't a gym based sport or
• 18:28
  strength and conditioning based sport.
• 18:29
  So I, I think some of them have realized they've probably got to
• 18:32
  do that work. Others of it that have just sort
• 18:35
  of accepted that from them day one and have built it in
• 18:37
  probably have less of an issue and therefore probably are some
• 18:40
  of the more high level drivers. Now you've never seen Max really
• 18:44
  mention it, but there's plenty of videos of him doing that sort
• 18:47
  of thing. Lewis is always I have.
• 18:49
  To dig out I I must be rage bait because this was I put it on my
• 18:54
  story and made a whole thing about it.
• 18:55
  Max Verstappen put up a post of him training.
• 18:58
  Oh yeah. And it was just like truly some
• 19:01
  of the worst movement integrity I've ever seen of any person
• 19:04
  ever. Like didn't doesn't matter he's
• 19:06
  an F1 driver or an athlete. It was a must have been rage
• 19:10
  bait because the way the guy moves was I'll find it because
• 19:13
  it's it's baffling. Like truly baffling.
• 19:15
  There's there's two more things that I want to have mentioned a
• 19:19
  physical training than they do that you'll often see Lewis
• 19:23
  Hamilton out on a run if anything, basically doing his
• 19:26
  best Mary McCarthy impression running with his phone in
• 19:28
  reverse explain what he's doing Yeah top off as well Hyrox guy,
• 19:33
  but he does a lot of cardio training and natural fact a lot
• 19:37
  of the Formula One drivers do a fair bit of like easy running
• 19:41
  and you might be thinking just keeps them generally fit.
• 19:44
  The actual reason is they need to lower their heart rate as
• 19:48
  much as possible because you can imagine when they're in the car,
• 19:51
  unlike other endurance events over that scale of time, they're
• 19:53
  unable to fuel in the same way. They they have to hydrate a lot
• 19:58
  because they lose so much sweat during the race.
• 20:01
  I would actually, I wish I had looked at this because it's
• 20:03
  something I thought. I don't know if any of them have
• 20:05
  like carb mix. If that would make a difference.
• 20:08
  Interesting. For sure, For sure.
• 20:10
  And they're electrolytes especially like at the hotter
• 20:12
  races, like they always quote somewhere like Malaysia, where
• 20:15
  it's like humid as well and it's just hot.
• 20:17
  The amount of fluid that they're losing.
• 20:20
  Yeah, as like, how Long's the Grand Prix?
• 20:22
  Like a couple of hours. Yeah, 2-3 hours and.
• 20:24
  They're dry and it's like concentrating.
• 20:27
  It's, it's, I mean, it's you think about it and you go, oh,
• 20:30
  they're just driving a car. But that must be hard work, like
• 20:32
  when yanking this thing around the track.
• 20:34
  If you type in like Formula One, drive a slow motion when you see
• 20:38
  the consistently on some of the road circuits like Monaco, there
• 20:42
  is less than one centimetre between their wheel and the
• 20:44
  barrier on every corner of a fast lap.
• 20:48
  That's such high levels of precision and skill that.
• 20:51
  Is, well, that's the well, that's the other thing I think
• 20:52
  you you overlook. Obviously there's the physical
• 20:55
  aspects, but you have to concentrate the whole time at
• 20:59
  such high speeds, like it's any lapse of judgement, any lapse of
• 21:04
  concentrated banger in the barrier you're spinning and
• 21:06
  you're smashing your car up at hundreds of miles an hour.
• 21:09
  So it's like the stress of the whole thing.
• 21:12
  If you can't stay calm and you can't keep your heart rate level
• 21:15
  and low, then you're going to really struggle.
• 21:18
  And yeah, so when you're in those high stress and you're
• 21:20
  actually racing, one thing you you'll always assume is that the
• 21:23
  drivers are tactically fighting it out and who can put the car
• 21:27
  in the best position. But it's also like if that goes
• 21:28
  on for 10 laps, which driver can continue doing it physically as
• 21:33
  well as their longest? And there will be some drivers
• 21:35
  that have just got less experience and are less
• 21:37
  physically trained. And they might, their grip might
• 21:40
  go for a split second on a turn, which means they actually go
• 21:43
  deep into the turn and they've opened themselves up and they
• 21:45
  get overtaken. It's just like, even now I'm
• 21:47
  saying that and I'm thinking, I've never even thought that
• 21:49
  when I'm watching someone get overtaken.
• 21:51
  Yeah, yeah, like what was the reason why?
• 21:53
  Was it just because the guy behind was better or was there?
• 21:55
  Always assumed it was just the other car was faster and the
• 21:57
  other driver was better. But like that, mistakes happen,
• 22:01
  and you sometimes just go, oh, it was a mistake, but the
• 22:03
  mistake could well have been a physical, not just a mental
• 22:06
  misjudge. I wonder if it's like, because I
• 22:09
  always use my own experience playing rugby when I watch the
• 22:12
  sport now at the professional level, how fast it is, how
• 22:16
  physical it is and you, you just like if I put myself in that
• 22:19
  situation, I would be battered instantly and I like I just
• 22:23
  couldn't keep up with the speed. I don't know if it's the same
• 22:25
  thing as you progress playing the sport from when you're
• 22:28
  younger, when you start karting, it's a certain speed and a
• 22:31
  certain level. And there's always going to be
• 22:33
  naturally gifted drivers and people who understand the
• 22:36
  cornering and have a bit more commitment, a bit less fear.
• 22:40
  But naturally as you grow older through the sport and through
• 22:42
  the ranks, you come up from karting and you go, is it
• 22:45
  Formula four or Formula three? I don't know.
• 22:47
  I don't know that the actual sequencing.
• 22:48
  But then you you come up and you drive in Formula Two and then
• 22:51
  maybe you're one of the lucky select few.
• 22:54
  Whoever gets to drive a racing car, you get put in that
• 22:56
  situation. But like as you progress through
• 22:59
  the sport, the speed progresses. Is it just like a natural thing,
• 23:02
  or do you think you have to learn and develop as you go
• 23:05
  along? Or is it just an intuitive
• 23:06
  inherent thing? So it's so you are close with
• 23:09
  Formula 4, you just have to add AD on the end because it's
• 23:12
  Formula Ford. So all of the cars are Ford, but
• 23:14
  then it goes Formula 3, then Formula 2.
• 23:16
  And you are right to an extent with you just naturally progress
• 23:20
  and what you actually find out is at the slower speeds, a lot
• 23:23
  of the drivers are able to handle as well.
• 23:28
  Something we're going to come to is the Formula One simulation,
• 23:31
  things that are available now where drivers are actually able
• 23:33
  to train themselves much faster with the reactions than they
• 23:35
  would necessarily have to or be able to like 20 years ago.
• 23:39
  But it's definitely like a development thing.
• 23:41
  And that's why Formula 2 drivers and Formula Three drivers will
• 23:45
  get cherry picked out of like the Academy process Formula One
• 23:48
  teams to help them develop into Formula One.
• 23:50
  And Kimi Antonelli is a perfect example of that.
• 23:52
  Super, super young. I think he did one year in
• 23:54
  Formula 2 before he went into Formula One.
• 23:56
  That's like really rare and not. And some drivers will win
• 24:01
  Formula 2-3 years in a row and actually not make the step up to
• 24:04
  1 because Formula One teams just don't think they've got the
• 24:06
  speed. And when we say the speed,
• 24:08
  obviously we're we're talking about their ability to drive the
• 24:10
  car fast. And you see as well, like
• 24:13
  Formula One teams will take someone like Liam Lawson, who's
• 24:16
  this like phenom, he's going to be the next best Red Red Bull
• 24:18
  driver, gets to that top level and just can't hack it, just
• 24:21
  cannot hack it. And I mean, there's a lot more
• 24:23
  pressure and life stuff around that.
• 24:24
  But at the end of the day, just cannot make the jump.
• 24:28
  The difference being, and there's a really good Top Gear
• 24:31
  episode where Richard Hammond goes and drives a Formula One
• 24:33
  car. But when he's doing that, first
• 24:35
  of all, he's really struggling with the head, like not letting
• 24:38
  it hit the front. But the jump from Formula Three
• 24:42
  to Formula Two, he's like, wow, this is fast.
• 24:45
  Puts it in the Formula One. And he is like, this is actually
• 24:48
  terrifying. This isn't actually fun.
• 24:50
  This is so scary. So yeah, I think, I think there
• 24:54
  is an element of that. But when when you do take the
• 24:56
  step up, it's different. The only other thing to say on
• 24:58
  that note, though, and as a caveat is the car that he was
• 25:01
  driving at was the Renault Formula One car, which is
• 25:03
  actually the fastest Formula One car ever.
• 25:05
  Formula One cars are a touch slower now and there's various
• 25:09
  reasons for that. But yeah, there is.
• 25:11
  There is a level of natural progression, but then there is a
• 25:13
  big jump still. I'd be interested also, like
• 25:15
  they should do some testing and studies on their brains.
• 25:19
  Like are they processing fear or do they have like this
• 25:22
  irrational? Like I'm not scared.
• 25:24
  I'm just driving a car. Whereas like you go that speed
• 25:27
  even like at certain speeds you're driving on the motorway
• 25:30
  and you're like, if you actually take a second to think about
• 25:32
  what would happen if you did crash, they can't have that
• 25:36
  hesitation or that thought process.
• 25:38
  And I had a conversation with my dad who die hard Formula One fan
• 25:43
  have been following it his whole life and that's how I got into
• 25:45
  it as well. He made a comment about must
• 25:50
  have been Sebastian Vettel and said something changed when he
• 25:54
  had kids. And it's like there's OK, well,
• 25:57
  now I'm, I'm not just driving for me.
• 25:59
  If I decapitate myself or go into the barrier or like explode
• 26:03
  in a ball of flames, I'm leaving behind of my wife, my kids.
• 26:07
  It's like there's a little switch that happens in your
• 26:10
  brain. And I, Max Verstappen's recently
• 26:13
  a father as well. Well, recently the last couple
• 26:15
  of years. I don't know if something's
• 26:16
  similar will happen with him. Well.
• 26:18
  It was interesting, extra responsibility.
• 26:20
  I think a lot of the drivers grow up and they idolize, you
• 26:24
  know, Michael Schumacher, Lewis Hamilton now who's just won
• 26:27
  countless World Championships. But at the end of the day, all
• 26:30
  they ever want is to be crowned world champion.
• 26:32
  And a lot of them while they are young and on the way up to doing
• 26:35
  that, that's all they care about.
• 26:38
  But then when it happens and for Max, when he went back-to-back,
• 26:41
  he's, I remember him saying in an interview like I've been
• 26:44
  world champion. I when I heard that, I was
• 26:47
  really surprised, especially from him because I was like, I
• 26:50
  thought he was so cutthroat and all he cared about was winning.
• 26:53
  But he's like, actually there's more to life than and to racing
• 26:56
  F1, same as Scottish Scheffer and golf.
• 26:58
  He was like, actually there's more to life than playing golf.
• 27:01
  I might be world number one, but if I can never play golf again
• 27:04
  now, I mean, it's not the end of the world.
• 27:07
  This. Is this is a bit of a tangent of
• 27:08
  the conversation, but I do wonder if that's partly to do
• 27:10
  with the economics of sport now, because I feel like back in the
• 27:12
  day with like Michael Schumacher, when he's winning
• 27:16
  countless World Championships, is he earning comparatively
• 27:20
  anywhere close to what the guys that are winning now?
• 27:23
  So like. Whereas if you make you still
• 27:25
  need your silver for life. Like even one season being
• 27:29
  rubbish. So all of a sudden is it like,
• 27:30
  well, I actually can kind of take my foot off the gas, Great
• 27:34
  pun. But like, I can do that because
• 27:36
  I want to go and enjoy my life and yes, Formula One is
• 27:40
  incredible and I get to see the world, whatever, but I also
• 27:42
  would like to see the world and be healthy and have nice time
• 27:44
  with my family and that sort of thing.
• 27:46
  You just, you just have to go on any of the F1 drivers Instagram
• 27:49
  page and that's like the ideal life, isn't it?
• 27:51
  It's like if, if they're not driving, they're probably sat on
• 27:54
  their yacht or in their nice house in Monaco.
• 27:57
  Or, you know, you swipe through Instagram, you get Lewis
• 28:00
  Hamilton's most expensive properties and you flick through
• 28:02
  and he's got like a ranch in Colorado.
• 28:04
  He's got like a £40 million house in Notting Hill.
• 28:06
  And it's just like this guy that lives the dream.
• 28:08
  Like he doesn't, he doesn't need to worry about anything.
• 28:10
  It's like, is there actually that motivation for him to now
• 28:13
  go and win with Ferrari? Probably not.
• 28:16
  He's already done it all. Well, one of the things that's
• 28:18
  interesting about drivers away, like away from driving lives
• 28:22
  now, but has changed is we were talking about, well, this ties
• 28:26
  quite nicely. We were talking about what they
• 28:27
  do away and like looking at their lives on social media, but
• 28:30
  also the income streams. There's now multiple Lando
• 28:36
  Norris is known for being one of the founders of a YouTube
• 28:38
  channel called Quadrant. And they're almost like the side
• 28:42
  men in in terms of size now, like their channel must be
• 28:45
  making millions a year. And that's relatively passive
• 28:48
  income. And what he will sometimes do is
• 28:50
  make an appearance on that. He's also got his own channel.
• 28:52
  Streams as well. Doesn't he race streams?
• 28:54
  And like we'll just sit doing essentially racing, training,
• 28:58
  training and and quite a lot of them do it like sometimes Max
• 29:01
  Verstappen will join on stream and and race each other.
• 29:03
  Yeah, it's good. That's where it's different and
• 29:05
  you kind of got the new school age of driving because Lewis
• 29:08
  Hamilton won't do that. No, he's not interested.
• 29:10
  They have same time. And this is actually worth
• 29:12
  mentioning. So in preparation for a race,
• 29:16
  sometimes, especially with newer drivers, teams will run like a 2
• 29:19
  day simulation setup, which could be 450 laps.
• 29:23
  So like 8 to probably like 6 to 8 times race length across a 2
• 29:29
  day spell. So like that's not just get used
• 29:33
  to being in that cockpit, it's learn every centimetre of that
• 29:37
  core so that when we get there, it's just muscle memory.
• 29:41
  And like that's also what the track walks for.
• 29:43
  You'll see some of the guys before they get in the car
• 29:44
  closing their eyes and just like steering and they're just going
• 29:48
  through it and until it is that muscle memory.
• 29:50
  Some of my favorite videos, have you seen when they, it's like F1
• 29:53
  media and they've got a driver at the track and they'll give
• 29:56
  them headphones and based off the revving of the engine,
• 29:59
  they'll go, what track is this? And they can hear how high it's
• 30:03
  revving down the straight and then into the corner.
• 30:05
  And they're like within like a couple of seconds or maybe one
• 30:08
  or two turns, they're like, yeah, that's the cops at
• 30:11
  Silverstone or whatever. And they're like, how do you
• 30:13
  know They're like, yeah, that's flat out at Spa.
• 30:15
  Like I know the corners so well and I know the sound of the
• 30:18
  engine. That's like that's next level.
• 30:20
  The nerdiest thing that I have done within Formula.
• 30:23
  SO this might be news to a lot of people.
• 30:25
  There's a place called Mercedes-Benz World in Surrey,
• 30:28
  unreal place to go. It's free to go there and walk
• 30:29
  around, sit in all Mercedes cars for a while.
• 30:32
  I don't think they do this anymore.
• 30:33
  They would show on a project to the Formula One race of the
• 30:35
  weekend on and you could come in and watch it for free obviously.
• 30:39
  Like me and my dad would go and get lunch and we'd sit there and
• 30:41
  watch it. It was great, so good.
• 30:42
  But they used to give out like a piece of paper that was a
• 30:44
  program of the race, like a rundown, everything that was
• 30:47
  going on with Mercedes. Really cool.
• 30:49
  And I remember sitting there and at the time Formula One 2011 had
• 30:54
  just come out on Wii, which was a goated game.
• 30:56
  It was basically Mario Kart before me one.
• 30:58
  And I had played it with my cousin non-stop since he came
• 31:02
  out. So when I sat down, I saw this
• 31:03
  piece of paper. I think the race was at Spa in
• 31:06
  Belgium. But they put, I can't even
• 31:09
  remember what race they put at the time.
• 31:11
  I knew I just looked at the track for a second.
• 31:12
  I was like they put the wrong track match.
• 31:15
  The trick came out for them. And I was like the track match
• 31:16
  wrong. And they were like, where what's
• 31:18
  that one then? And I just told them in an
• 31:19
  incident and they. Were like honestly like it must
• 31:22
  have been O seven season or something on PSP.
• 31:26
  If you any of the tracks, you know when they used to race.
• 31:29
  I don't know if they still race at Barcelona, but the track in
• 31:32
  Spain, it's like such an iconic shape.
• 31:34
  Any of the track maps, just. I know.
• 31:37
  Yeah, it's actually crazy. So cool, so sad, isn't it?
• 31:40
  So sad, so sad. The final.
• 31:43
  Two things I wanted to talk about is kind of attached to
• 31:45
  that is the reactive training and I think the simulation stuff
• 31:48
  and what they're doing in by playing the games is getting the
• 31:50
  reaction training in driving sense.
• 31:53
  But then you'll see them doing the thing that they I swear they
• 31:56
  used to do this on a program called the Saturday Show on
• 31:57
  ICBC. But like the life of the world,
• 32:00
  anyone that was at High Rocks London saw the original source
• 32:03
  thing. It was like testing your
• 32:04
  reaction time. How quickly can you get through
• 32:05
  whatever it is 50 of the I actually, I mean, I won the
• 32:11
  prize, but I didn't win overall and I was gutted.
• 32:14
  So was that you and your story where you're like, test this
• 32:17
  guy? Whoever won test this guy, it
• 32:20
  was what? But yeah, they'll do some
• 32:25
  variations of reaction training. Another one that you'll see is
• 32:27
  holding 2 tennis balls out and the guy will drop 1 and they
• 32:29
  have to catch one from hands over the top.
• 32:32
  They quite often do that just in the way up to a race to kind of
• 32:35
  in a non stressful environment start warming up those reflexes
• 32:38
  or even just like juggling again like go on YouTube look up
• 32:42
  Formula One nearest misses and I have no idea how there aren't so
• 32:46
  many crashes, but then just go and watch an A cockpit view of
• 32:50
  the start of a race. They won't be going that quick,
• 32:53
  but how all of those cars get round the corners is.
• 32:57
  Meant but then, then. So first one, like the reaction
• 33:02
  time, that has to be inherent. Like your brain just cannot
• 33:06
  process that fast. So it's like, yes, you can do
• 33:09
  all the juggling, you can learn how to juggle the tennis ball
• 33:11
  with your feet and whatever and you can practice and do all the
• 33:14
  light games. But when you're going at 100
• 33:16
  miles an hour and and like something pops a bang, that's
• 33:19
  it. That's just inherent.
• 33:20
  Like when something falls out of the kitchen cupboard and you go
• 33:24
  and you just catch it and you're like, fuck my spider, Yeah, you
• 33:27
  know what I mean? So it's like that, those
• 33:29
  reactions that is so. Real.
• 33:31
  You're like, Oh my, Oh my God. So that was the the first one
• 33:36
  and now I can't remember what the other one was going.
• 33:38
  I'm thinking about so many times in my life.
• 33:39
  You're like mum, like I think you're aware of who you're
• 33:42
  dealing with. No one else on this?
• 33:45
  Planet. Oh no.
• 33:46
  So. And no one ever watches, do
• 33:48
  they? No one ever sees it.
• 33:50
  The final thing and before we wrap this up, is heat training,
• 33:54
  which is something we've spoken about before in other sports.
• 33:57
  And in a weird way, Formula One was a bit ahead of the time on
• 33:59
  this because back in old school Formula One, the drivers
• 34:04
  basically sat on top of the engines, got really hot in
• 34:07
  those. And with newer technology, the
• 34:11
  race suits the drivers wear are more breathable now because they
• 34:14
  have to wear them for flame retardation basically.
• 34:18
  Well, they're wearing layers as well.
• 34:19
  Like there's the flame retardant and then there's the overalls as
• 34:22
  well. Like there's even if it's
• 34:23
  breathable, you're still wearing freaking 2 layers and like.
• 34:26
  And the helmet alone is thick balaclava.
• 34:28
  Yeah, so much so they're dealing with ridiculously high heat.
• 34:33
  And then when you take them out to Miami or you take them out to
• 34:35
  like you said, Baku, some of the some of the far hotter circuits
• 34:38
  where and the air temperature might be like 33°, trap
• 34:43
  temperature might be 52°, They're on the track.
• 34:46
  You can see like the I don't know what that with the flame,
• 34:49
  the. Heat haze.
• 34:50
  Yeah, you. Can see it like rippling off the
• 34:52
  track. It's just like, it must be
• 34:53
  horrible. Just for reference as well, one
• 34:55
  of the American football games I played in it was a 33° day.
• 35:01
  We were on rubber. Crown we were on rubber Crown.
• 35:03
  I threw a ball to a receiver and he fell over running a route and
• 35:07
  when he got up he just looked at me and was like, bro, I'm done.
• 35:09
  And I was like, are you injured? He was like, no, I'm fine.
• 35:11
  His the bottom of his cleats, which would like adhesively
• 35:15
  glued on to the his come up. Who come up.
• 35:17
  He was wearing like a sock and the studs were in the ground.
• 35:20
  Oh my God, it was mad so insanely hot.
• 35:24
  So I can only imagine on an actual black surface how hot
• 35:27
  that is and that, you know, comes into effect with a lot of
• 35:30
  their choice and strategies and racing.
• 35:31
  But yeah, heat training is massive for them, but not so
• 35:34
  much. So yes, there's the physical
• 35:36
  element. Again, keeping their heart rate
• 35:38
  down in those moments, but also just like, maintaining focus.
• 35:42
  Yeah, Yeah. Is a big one.
• 35:44
  I remembered now my other point. So obviously the introduction of
• 35:49
  it must have been a couple of years now where they have the
• 35:51
  protective cage around the cockpit.
• 35:53
  Oh yeah, Halo. Because some driver, I think the
• 35:57
  reason they introduced it was do you see the there was a crash
• 36:01
  and a tire wheel came off, bounced and hit another driver
• 36:04
  and I think unfortunately killed them.
• 36:06
  So like obviously they need to introduce something like that
• 36:09
  for protective measures. But when it's pissing down with
• 36:12
  rain and they're in the Halo, like the Halo offers like it's,
• 36:16
  it's right in front of your face, man.
• 36:18
  Like you have to be able to see past it.
• 36:20
  And I'm sure they're at the point now where they're
• 36:21
  naturally they can see past it. But when it's pissing down with
• 36:24
  rain and you see a cockpit view, you can't see anything.
• 36:28
  Like maybe sometimes you see the flash of a tail on.
• 36:31
  You don't even see that when it when there are speed in the mist
• 36:33
  is flying up behind the light. You can't.
• 36:35
  You have to be truly tapped to like put your foot flat on the
• 36:38
  floor there. I was just like when I see that
• 36:39
  I was that honestly really, really impresses me.
• 36:42
  I'm I'm I'm out of spite. I'm very jealous of the F1
• 36:45
  drivers because they live an amazing life and I'm like, do
• 36:48
  you actually have to be that good at driving to be an F1
• 36:50
  driver? But.
• 36:51
  No, because Lance strolls always in there and he's still there.
• 36:54
  Somewhere put me in a car. I'm like, I don't even know you.
• 36:57
  There's no button to turn on. Like, what do you do?
• 37:00
  Like what all the fucking buttons do.
• 37:02
  And and then it's like learning what the buttons do with code
• 37:06
  names so other teams don't know what you're like.
• 37:08
  Strat one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:11
  Push or whatever. And like you have to, I'd be
• 37:14
  like looking at the buttons, but you're doing that at freaking
• 37:16
  200 miles an hour. It's.
• 37:17
  Like touched, I think. You need to and like turning
• 37:20
  dials and they're telling you different things.
• 37:22
  Like even that alone is really impressive.
• 37:24
  And then put on the fact that it's a million degrees in the
• 37:27
  cockpit or it's pissing down with rain or yeah, it's, it's
• 37:31
  like it's a, it's a very, it's a very dangerous sport, but it's
• 37:34
  like, it's a very impressive sport when you actually break it
• 37:36
  down. So when you were talking about
• 37:38
  that, the different elements to a sport and you have skill based
• 37:42
  sports and then non skill baseball, I can't remember what
• 37:45
  the other end is called instead of non skill based.
• 37:49
  Whatever this one is kind of a bit of is is kind of a sleeper
• 37:53
  on the non skilled training because they have to do so much
• 37:56
  of that to then actually be able to use their skill on rice day
• 37:59
  because they actually have to get there first of all.
• 38:02
  So it is it is a super impressive.
• 38:03
  Sport and they are very highly talented athletes.
• 38:06
  When people go well, you're just sitting down in a car and you're
• 38:08
  not like it's, it's very physical.
• 38:10
  Yeah, but no. So I mean, that's the race of
• 38:13
  it. Hopefully you guys found that
• 38:15
  somewhat interesting. If you would like us to deep
• 38:17
  dive onto a particular driver and see if we can dig something
• 38:20
  out, maybe like Lewis Hamilton, if we could find something in
• 38:23
  Michael Schumacher, maybe. Or if you'd actually like us to
• 38:25
  go into finding out about sack removal from the forearm and do
• 38:29
  something in Moto GP and look at like Valentino Rossi is a name
• 38:33
  that you guys might know. If you don't know he's got a
• 38:34
  monster named after him, then we will do.
• 38:37
  Just drop it in the comments or shoot reach out to us at
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• 38:53
  my gears. That's the we've got some good
• 38:55
  ones this week, but we'll we will race through them.
• 38:59
  Should I start off with a bit of a headliner?
• 39:01
  I'll go for it. This one is You come from Jake
• 39:04
  Deardon. Really.
• 39:05
  Jake Deardon? Yeah.
• 39:06
  People Huge. Fan of the podcast?
• 39:08
  Huge fan of the podcast. People not getting out of the
• 39:11
  fast lane even when they're fast.
• 39:13
  This came because Charlie and Jake were.
• 39:15
  You can only say that if you're Jake Deardon, so.
• 39:19
  Charlie and Jake were winning and they were leading the race.
• 39:24
  The guys who came into the warble second behind them.
• 39:27
  Jake and Charlie had I think run past a couple of times during
• 39:30
  the race, but because they were obviously they were moving
• 39:32
  faster than everyone else on the track bar Jake and Charlie.
• 39:35
  When they came up behind these guys and were shouting left,
• 39:39
  they just didn't listen. But then it got to a point where
• 39:43
  it almost looked like they were doing it intentionally.
• 39:45
  It's like we're racing you. So like, no, it's like that's
• 39:49
  not really it in this. But then I but then I go like
• 39:52
  how? How is the fast lane defined?
• 39:55
  Because isn't it defined as if I'm running faster than A4 pace?
• 39:58
  Yeah. So then in theory you can stay
• 40:02
  in the fast lane, but you still need to be aware of other
• 40:04
  people. I'm just I'm that's one of my
• 40:08
  least favorite things when I do a higher ups race is knowing
• 40:11
  that there's someone faster than me or someone who's like who's
• 40:14
  like Jake or Charlie who might be racing for a specific time or
• 40:18
  their livelihood depends on them doing well.
• 40:20
  I don't want to be the guy who gets in their way.
• 40:22
  So when we're running around Olympia.
• 40:24
  It was, I mean utter carnage. Like the course is a go Kart
• 40:27
  track anyway. And it's it's like there's so
• 40:30
  many people in mixed double S Yeah, and we were probably the
• 40:32
  fastest pair running around at all time.
• 40:35
  So I'm like, I know we're going to dominate the fast lane.
• 40:38
  So I'm going around screaming at people and then I hear like
• 40:41
  close to the end where I'm starting, the wheels are falling
• 40:44
  off, someone's screaming at me and I'm like, no way.
• 40:47
  Look around Jane's Jade Skillin just like blast past me.
• 40:51
  But also like the really annoying thing when I'm shouting
• 40:54
  left, I'm doing it like a bit aggressively.
• 40:56
  She's shouting left and then as soon as I get out the way she's
• 40:58
  like thank you, so polite. This.
• 41:01
  Makes me feel even worse, Jason. Charlie, I can hear when they're
• 41:03
  leaving the rock zone and they're shouting because they're
• 41:05
  obviously coming out onto the track.
• 41:06
  They're like left thank you, like so polite.
• 41:10
  And it's like, save your breath. I'm not actually.
• 41:13
  They're, they're advocates for the sport and people look to
• 41:15
  them to behave in a certain way. And it's great that they do do
• 41:18
  that. But yeah, I must be really
• 41:19
  frustrating when you're also used to racing in the elites
• 41:23
  where it's like you have the whole cause for yourself.
• 41:25
  And then having to go into like, especially hard, it's like quite
• 41:29
  a tight course. Yeah, Many corners, Yeah, lots
• 41:32
  of people. It wasn't.
• 41:33
  Yeah, quite slow one. Let them get out of the way man.
• 41:35
  Yeah your turn. My 1 is so so sad and we can get
• 41:40
  through it fast. Board markers that don't work in
• 41:42
  the gym. Every time I go to write
• 41:45
  something, draw, draw a nice image for my class on the
• 41:47
  whiteboard. No ink in it.
• 41:49
  Throw it in the bin, man. And it's also like, you know,
• 41:52
  when you give a pen to a toddler and they just slam it into the
• 41:55
  freaking like whatever the table or like a piece of paper or but
• 41:59
  and it's like flattened, It's just like do.
• 42:02
  You want me to piss you off? I hate it when people have
• 42:05
  flattened a ball marker. I agree.
• 42:07
  No, no, like, oh. That's property.
• 42:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But actually doing it?
• 42:12
  Is really satisfying. So satisfying if you're like the
• 42:14
  best line. So when you get the brand new
• 42:17
  board marker, this is years of of coaching.
• 42:20
  When you get a brand new board marker, it's very, very fine at
• 42:23
  the end. Yeah, obviously there's loads of
• 42:25
  ink. So it's like it comes out.
• 42:26
  It's really nice. But if you're writing on a white
• 42:28
  board, that's fine. You can't really read it.
• 42:30
  So like you have to squidge it down.
• 42:32
  But this is just like, yeah. So this is a shout out to the
• 42:36
  gym owners to buy new. Pens Another one from me is
• 42:43
  right this weekend at Cardiff and I'm I'm reading the
• 42:46
  producers notes here so don't counsel me for the wording, but
• 42:49
  clipboard twat and duct tape dickhead.
• 42:52
  So what they've done at Cardiff this weekend, and they've done
• 42:55
  this at places before where they really try and stop people
• 42:58
  taking photos of people getting their finishes photo really so
• 43:03
  have. You seen that?
• 43:04
  No. So.
• 43:05
  In some places, as an example London Olympia, they tried to
• 43:08
  make it as far away as spectators as possible so the
• 43:11
  photos were irrelevant. They forgot the cameras can zoom
• 43:14
  when they had did it in Manchester previously they did
• 43:18
  it and then they put up a massive high rocks board.
• 43:20
  So the people that were on the the couldn't take pictures of
• 43:26
  people by looking over. In Cardiff they built the
• 43:29
  Thunderdome around the wall balls and behind the walls
• 43:31
  there's a finish area. There was a small corner of the
• 43:35
  upper level of the Thunderdome where you would just be able to
• 43:38
  get photos but it would be like looking down.
• 43:39
  Not ideal but like you could get it underneath.
• 43:43
  They put the high rocks banners to block it all off.
• 43:48
  However, if you just went on your tip toes, you could look
• 43:51
  through the little gap and you could definitely hold your phone
• 43:53
  up. So that's what it was like on
• 43:54
  Wednesday, Thursday. I'm told when I got there on
• 43:57
  Friday, they had duct taped the gaps so you couldn't look
• 44:01
  through, which by the way is just so sad that you have to do
• 44:05
  that. When I got there, obviously I'm
• 44:07
  relatively tall so I could reach over the whole thing.
• 44:10
  So I was doing that with my camera.
• 44:12
  I could hear someone chatting. No, no, I didn't obviously know
• 44:14
  it wasn't me. All of a sudden comes along with
• 44:17
  a clipboard and starts hitting people's phones and my camera
• 44:21
  away. Like actually like the guy was
• 44:24
  coming along. And the thing was, I then looked
• 44:25
  over because I could look over at him and he was like super
• 44:28
  frustrated. He's just a volunteer.
• 44:30
  Like doesn't work for Horrocks, doesn't work for sports graph.
• 44:33
  Like was a volunteer and I was actually like, dude, you're
• 44:36
  literally swatting at people's hands on phones like expensive
• 44:39
  cameras. Then duct tape.
• 44:41
  As the producers said, duct tape dickhead came along and started
• 44:45
  trying to duct tape from the above level of the Thunderdome
• 44:49
  down in like stripped one at a time.
• 44:51
  And obviously people were just knocking them away as they gave
• 44:53
  up, but it was just like. I understand why they're doing
• 44:57
  it, but also I thought you could go into the area where I there's
• 45:03
  been times where you literally pass your phone to the guy
• 45:06
  taking the official photo Yeah of the finished they're.
• 45:09
  Definitely not supposed to do that.
• 45:10
  And they're like they do, yeah. So like, it's irrelevant anyway.
• 45:13
  Yeah, if people don't want to buy this photograph photos, it's
• 45:16
  because the quality is so trash. Exactly.
• 45:18
  Sort that out first and then you won't have to talk to Yeah, it's
• 45:22
  so dumb, isn't? It next one is for for you.
• 45:26
  Calling a medicine ball a war ball.
• 45:30
  I've seen you the other. Way around as well.
• 45:32
  People call a wobble a medicine ball.
• 45:35
  We. God, it's really ground your
• 45:39
  gears. The gears have stopped working.
• 45:41
  My brain, No, that doesn't. That doesn't make sense because
• 45:44
  you do a wobble. That's the exercise.
• 45:46
  You do a wobble with a medicine ball.
• 45:49
  You don't do you don't do a medicine ball to the the final
• 45:55
  hundred reps of medicine balls. But you are saying that the
• 45:58
  thing that you throw at a wobble target is a medicine ball, not a
• 46:01
  wobble. And the movement is called a
• 46:02
  wobble. OK.
• 46:03
  And the wobble target. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:06
  It's that's that's all wobbles. But the thing you use to do a
• 46:09
  wobble is a medicine ball. So it's like.
• 46:12
  If you got a barbell to do barbell thrusters and you called
• 46:17
  the barbell a thruster. I didn't think that wobbles the
• 46:20
  ball that you the the the round thing that you throw is a Med
• 46:23
  ball was a Med ball. I thought that was a wobble, but
• 46:27
  no, I thought a Med ball was just like a heavier for not not
• 46:30
  AD ball like a slam ball, like a slam ball, but like.
• 46:34
  I think they're all, but maybe they're all like relatives of a
• 46:37
  medicine ball. But you said it earlier, you're
• 46:39
  talking about core training in Yeah, F in F1 drivers.
• 46:42
  And you're like when you throw a medicine ball at a yeah.
• 46:45
  Yeah. You Med though with a wool,
• 46:46
  Yeah. With a Med ball.
• 46:47
  I've been wooling for years. Grinding my gears.
• 46:50
  Yeah, there you go. Such a petty one.
• 46:53
  Next one quiet carriage, got on GWR train to go to Cardiff and I
• 46:59
  got on super off peak, as did everyone else in London
• 47:02
  apparently, and I went to the very front carriage.
• 47:05
  I was hoping it would at least be a little bit quiet because I
• 47:08
  had some work to do, but all I'm going to say, it was very
• 47:11
  obvious these people were going to go to Bristol.
• 47:14
  That's where they were going. But they've got a speaker out
• 47:19
  and played the same song four times in a row, which was
• 47:21
  London's calling, and they were absolutely loving it.
• 47:26
  So yeah, I. In the quiet carriage.
• 47:28
  And it just, it was relentless as well.
• 47:30
  And they, I thought they all knew each other when they got
• 47:33
  off, they were all like, lovely to meet you, mate.
• 47:35
  Maybe I'll see you out. And I was like, fuck.
• 47:37
  But some of them are being like, oh, So what do you do?
• 47:40
  You look like an English teacher.
• 47:41
  And I was like, I'm the other end of the carriage.
• 47:43
  I don't want to be hearing this. I have headphones on as well.
• 47:46
  I think people sometimes do on purpose to get in the carriage
• 47:49
  just to piss people off. But I that really that
• 47:51
  frustrates, you know, Yeah, that's annoying.
• 47:54
  You only I've got one more quick one afterwards.
• 47:57
  I've got, well, I've got a few actually, but maybe I'll save
• 48:00
  them for the next time. There's one that's like doing
• 48:03
  the rounds on Instagram at the moment is the Norwegian 4x4 by
• 48:07
  the VO2 Max training where it's like 4 minutes on four times.
• 48:12
  OK, And it's just like people seem to think this is like the
• 48:15
  most revolutionary style of training and they're like, Oh my
• 48:18
  God, I'm going to become an amazing athlete because I'm
• 48:20
  doing this Norwegian fours. And it's like, look at my VO2.
• 48:25
  I'm like, this was probably invented in the 90s.
• 48:27
  And I'm like, you're only you've seen like maybe one fitness
• 48:31
  influencer do it or like some, maybe it was like Christian
• 48:34
  Blumenfeld or something or Jakobinka Britson started doing
• 48:37
  that four by fours. I like posting about it.
• 48:39
  And they go, and that's revolutionary, Yeah.
• 48:41
  And now everyone's doing. It but I think trends go round
• 48:43
  and. It's just annoying.
• 48:44
  Expecting like 2 years, stupid trend.
• 48:46
  The JPG lap pull down from Covid's going to come back.
• 48:51
  The final, final one that I've got.
• 48:53
  We actually spoke about it last week in a way.
• 48:54
  Yeah, the new Adidas Marathon Chew because of the reselling
• 48:59
  that's going on. So they sold out as you would
• 49:02
  expect, but they sold out at a price of $500 immediately.
• 49:06
  Them being like 1500 and upwards is is just mad.
• 49:11
  And you said it last week, but they're pretty much a one time
• 49:13
  where? Yeah, I'm like as a sneaker
• 49:16
  head, I'm a bit like, no one really bought that to run in.
• 49:21
  I I I thought about buying it because it's like, it's a shoe.
• 49:25
  It's a piece of history. Yeah.
• 49:26
  Like that is an amazing shoe. And like, that's the shoe that
• 49:30
  legitimately broke the two hour record.
• 49:33
  Like that's that. And and for that purpose, like
• 49:36
  it's a great issue, but if you're actually buying it to
• 49:37
  racing and then running a 5 hour marathon, you're a dickhead.
• 49:40
  I, yeah, I also from an engineering perspective, I think
• 49:44
  Adidas have smashed it with this shoe because I don't think it's
• 49:48
  in its final form really. I think last year they had great
• 49:51
  success with the the carbon rods that went down and then they've
• 49:55
  gone away from the rods and they've done a ring.
• 49:57
  And from all of my, yeah, from all of my engineering
• 50:01
  understanding instructions and stuff that I did at university,
• 50:04
  a ring is not that strong. A ring does not give you that
• 50:07
  much when it's incomplete. So I'm wondering if next year
• 50:11
  some of the rods or one or two of the rods come down the middle
• 50:15
  and all of a sudden you've got the next super shoe.
• 50:16
  And that's what every other super shoe will look like for.
• 50:18
  Years. I don't know like how far they
• 50:20
  can push the boundary though because then to to make it race
• 50:26
  legal. I don't know what the
• 50:27
  specifications are. I think the the difficult thing
• 50:30
  for them now is because the first carbon shoes were full
• 50:33
  plates. Anything less than that is a how
• 50:39
  is it fair that it caught it? How is it fair you can have a
• 50:41
  shoe with nothing in it with less share you can have with
• 50:42
  more in it. Yeah.
• 50:43
  So if you have in between, it has to be legal.
• 50:45
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I, I like the idea of rods and
• 50:48
  the energy rim. I think it's quite likely I I
• 50:51
  before I and quoted on this, I'd like to do some more research on
• 50:55
  the history of the carbon plate being introduced into the Super
• 50:59
  shoe because I think it's from what I remember and what I've
• 51:02
  heard, I think it's a really interesting story about Adidas
• 51:05
  originally had the technology and put all of the time and
• 51:09
  development into the carbon plated shoe.
• 51:12
  And then one of their employees snaked them and went to Nike and
• 51:15
  Nike produced the the first carbon shoe.
• 51:16
  But it was ad that or some something like that.
• 51:19
  I don't know, but don't quote me on that.
• 51:20
  We're going to come back with that and the full story and it's
• 51:22
  going to be amazing. Well.
• 51:24
  It's I think the biggest difference that you can probably
• 51:26
  make if you're listening to this in terms of like footwear, is
• 51:32
  you can go to high socks. I knew it high.
• 51:35
  Socks we have probably partnered with so High Socks, if you don't
• 51:39
  know by this point, are grip socks right?
• 51:44
  You might be thinking, where on earth do I need grip socks?
• 51:46
  So first of all, if you've got no carpet downstairs, it's quite
• 51:49
  nice to not slip around. But more importantly for a
• 51:52
  performance purpose. We've said it multiple times in
• 51:54
  previous episodes, but genuinely feeling like you're in contact
• 51:57
  with your shoe and your shoe and your foot being one is massive
• 52:00
  across any sport. You can guess by the 1st 2
• 52:03
  letters of the name High that they're originally intended to
• 52:07
  be Pyrox socks and I've still not worn them for a race because
• 52:12
  we partnered with them and I haven't raced since, which is
• 52:14
  really bad, but you have. Embraced twice in them and both
• 52:17
  times I've loved them. Do you train in them as well?
• 52:20
  I've I train pre race to kind of get a feel for them but I don't
• 52:23
  train in them normally, no. I've started training in them a
• 52:26
  little bit on leg days even. Oh nice.
• 52:28
  And even when I'm doing like calf raises, I've always found
• 52:30
  that my heel slips in the back and like, actually not doing
• 52:34
  that, it feels like I can get more out.
• 52:36
  Of it, Do you know something that I stole off Chris Bumstead?
• 52:39
  So this is legit. He trains legs always with his
• 52:43
  shoes off. And he was saying that I mean,
• 52:45
  this is before he had his home gym and all of his equipment was
• 52:48
  personalized to him. But when you put your feet with
• 52:51
  socks on on some of the leg presses, your feet can slip.
• 52:56
  So in most gyms it's like it's just plastic.
• 52:59
  So if you're wearing no shoes, which is probably bad etiquette
• 53:02
  in a commercial gym anyway, but whatever.
• 53:03
  I did it the other day. Then your feet will slip unless
• 53:06
  you're wearing high socks. But in his actual home gym now,
• 53:09
  he's had a specific machine made for him which has gripped tape
• 53:14
  on his leg press so he can still wear socks and he won't slip.
• 53:17
  But if you can't afford your own home gym.
• 53:19
  I'll reach out to him because we can sort him out with some
• 53:20
  highsight. Yeah.
• 53:21
  But yeah, much cheaper alternative.
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  for today is famous celebrities owning sports teams.
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  So I'm going to give you a famous celebrity and you're
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  going to have to tell me which sports that they own.
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  So we're going to kick it off with probably or hopefully an
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  easy 1. Ryan God, I can't even pronounce
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  his name. Ryan Ryan Reynolds he owns which
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  UK football team he. Co owns Wrexham.
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  With who do you know for an extra point?
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  I do. That's really mean.
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  I didn't even write it down. He's an actor in Sunny, Sunny
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  Sunny in Philadelphia. Is that even the name of it?
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  Yeah, No. OK, well, I didn't write it down
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  either, so no one's going to know the answer to that.
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  OK, Shame, but you've got one point already.
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  OK, Fantastic. OK Elton John is a former owner
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  of which UK football team? Allegedly.
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  He's been a lifelong supporter. Sonish.
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  Is it like? Leicester City.
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  It's not Leicester City. Do you want another guess?
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  I would call it like a peripheral London team.
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  OK. Very peripheral.
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  Actually that should have gone in the news this week, by the
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  way, Tottenham aren't getting released.
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  I know, which is that's good. That was good stuff that was.
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  It would have been a bit sad to see a team like that go down.
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  Also like you kind of wanted to see that.
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  Stadium in the Championship, didn't you?
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  Yeah. I also think that means that
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  Leicester City might be going down.
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  Oh really? Which is sad because they came
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  up, won it in the first season. Yeah.
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  Anyway, back to. Elton John.
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  Elton John, Bring it back. Fringe London team?
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  Is it like AFC Wimbledon or something?
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  No, you went the wrong way, Watford.
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  The Wolves. Is it, are they the Watford
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  Wolves? Yeah.
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  Is it? Yeah.
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  Nah. I'm not joking.
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  It's not the Watford Wolves, is it?
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  Actually, yeah. Oh.
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  I'm going to have to fact that, check that.
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  OK, well, I know they've got like a something on that.
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  Fact Check it now. I thought it's Watford, Wolves.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  Watford, Wolves. This might be the first time
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  we've ever searched something live.
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  Watford. Wolves.
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  Nah, I can't read that, it's too small.
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  This is old. I mean, it looks like a moose,
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  which is always confusing. Yeah, but.
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  I've always wondered what that is.
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  OK, I don't think it is. No Wolverhampton Wanderers and
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  yeah, Wolves, yeah. Wolverhampton.
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  No one calls on Wolverhampton because they're the Wolves.
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  Football Club. Nickname.
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  They don't have one. OK, I'm glad everyone sat here
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  listening to this debate. The Hornets with a moose on
• 58:04
  there, what you on about? Well, it's at least it's not a
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  wolf. If it's initial nickname was the
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  Brewers with reference to Ben Skins brewery Rich owned.
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  I hate the word brewery. I can't say it.
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  yeah, that's actually so true. The live Googling to put Angus
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  in his place when he's wrong. Next question.
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  Natalie Portman is the co-owner of which women's soccer team?
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  Natalie Corman. This one is hard, yeah.
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  Women's soccer team, Did she? She Co owns.
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  Yeah. I please tell me it's in.
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  Can you tell me if it's in the in the UK or not?
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  No, it's it's based in LA and it was founded in 2020.
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  And the tough thing about this is I have to make up a football
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  team name because I it, it might not even be like LA Galaxy
• 59:02
  Women's. No, it's not.
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  It might be like the LA Stars. I mean, it was, it was, it
• 59:07
  actually was a really good guess, Angel City FC.
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  OK, yeah, something kind of cute, which is cringe.
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  They have to do that for women's game, Yeah.
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  American. Yeah, David Beckham.
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  This one's easy. Surely owns his own football
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  team. Into Miami.
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  Easy, easy. Michael Jordan is the majority
• 59:25
  owner of which NBA team? I don't know.
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  The NBA. Yeah, they must be.
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  See, that's actually really annoying because.
• 59:36
  You want, you want an issue. You want to say it's you want
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  the Bulls, Yeah. It's not the Bulls.
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  It's not the Bulls, no. And then I'm like, is it the
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  Lakers? No, you're making me second
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  guess if they're actually NBA. Really.
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  I think they are. Is it another LA team?
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  No, I. It's because it's where he's
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  from. It must be North Carolina.
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  Think of their team. I can see no.
• 1:00:12
  I'm now thinking of their the college team.
• 1:00:14
  Like light blue. Yeah.
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  That's the college was at UNC or something.
• 1:00:18
  University of North Carolina. No, I think, yeah, this is that
• 1:00:22
  must be. Yeah.
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  Go on. Charlotte Hornets.
• 1:00:24
  I wouldn't have guessed that. Charlotte is Yeah, that is, that
• 1:00:28
  is. There you go.
• 1:00:28
  That will be why. OK, Dan.
• 1:00:30
  Jay-Z was formerly, oh God, a minority owner of which NBA
• 1:00:36
  team? Jay-Z.
• 1:00:38
  Jay ZI. Don't know again if this is an
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  association of where he's originally from, but.
• 1:00:45
  So I feel like that could be a Chicago Bulls.
• 1:00:48
  No Think major city New York Knicks good with the New York.
• 1:00:54
  Yeah, yeah, the Mets. No Nets.
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  Brooklyn Nets, Yeah. No.
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  Brooklyn Nets, Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Mets is
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  also baseball. Baseball.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah. Nice.
• 1:01:02
  Cool. We're getting us our American
• 1:01:03
  sports or OK, Matthew McConaughey is a minority owner
• 1:01:07
  of which US based soccer team. Again, this must be an
• 1:01:12
  affiliation from where he's from.
• 1:01:13
  But again, I don't know the geography of all of these
• 1:01:15
  celebrities. My knowledge of USUS soccer team
• 1:01:19
  so far, I've I think I've said the two that I know and I know
• 1:01:23
  because David Beckham. Is named after a city.
• 1:01:29
  I'll, I'll narrow it down. It's a city in Texas, and it's
• 1:01:34
  not Dallas. Houston.
• 1:01:36
  It was Austin. Yes, Austin FC.
• 1:01:40
  You smashed it. Oh.
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  FC. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:41
  Austin Wolves, That's all you had.
• 1:01:43
  The Austin Wolves. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:44
  Nice. The Marines or whatever, OK,
• 1:01:47
  let's keep going with the minority shareholders.
• 1:01:50
  Will Smith is a minority shareholder in which.
• 1:01:53
  This, by the way, is the hardest quiz I've ever, ever heard in
• 1:01:57
  the world. It's just by niche minority
• 1:02:01
  stakeholder. In which NBA franchise?
• 1:02:06
  The Boston Celtics. The Philadelphia 70 Niners Oh,
• 1:02:10
  what is it, 76ers? When they're minority as well,
• 1:02:14
  this is like asking what drink they got in a meal deal two
• 1:02:17
  years ago because it's like a small little purchase.
• 1:02:19
  They just put a name without minority.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah, Magic Johnson is a part owner of which baseball team?
• 1:02:25
  I. Was hoping you were going to say
• 1:02:27
  basketball. No, this one's easy, if you're
• 1:02:30
  going to guess. New York Yankees No.
• 1:02:34
  Other coast. The red snow, That's Boston.
• 1:02:51
  It's in there somewhere. Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Well, it will be as soon as you say, I reckon.
• 1:02:59
  No, I go the. Dodgers.
• 1:03:00
  LA Dodgers. See, I knew it was in there.
• 1:03:03
  I was thinking like it wouldn't be Lai was thinking it'd be like
• 1:03:05
  California or something. LA Dodgers.
• 1:03:07
  This one's so good at. Least we saw some wearing an LA
• 1:03:09
  Dodgers cap yesterday. This one's so good.
• 1:03:13
  I don't want to say minority owner, but he is Justin
• 1:03:16
  Timberlake. Oh.
• 1:03:17
  My God. It's a minority owner of which
• 1:03:22
  ice hockey team? This is a sick name for a team.
• 1:03:26
  So it's one that I've not had. You just say you've never.
• 1:03:28
  Heard of them? I was like, why would they have
• 1:03:33
  a hockey team? But I guess it's just.
• 1:03:36
  I'm pretty sure there's Is it LA Kings?
• 1:03:39
  It's not the LA Kings. Who is it?
• 1:03:42
  The Nashville Predators. That's the.
• 1:03:46
  Great, Joe. I've really matured in the last
• 1:03:48
  few weeks because I would have just thrown a political
• 1:03:50
  statement in there, but I'm not going to do that.
• 1:03:51
  You're better than, better than that.
• 1:03:52
  You're better than. That I also don't.
• 1:03:53
  Want to edit it out again? OK.
• 1:03:55
  Here we go. Here we go, Here we go.
• 1:03:57
  OK, Lewis Hamilton, he is part of the ownership group.
• 1:04:04
  Another way of saying a minority.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah. Of which NFL franchise?
• 1:04:09
  Come on. This is was the one where I was
• 1:04:11
  like franchise. I knew it straight away.
• 1:04:14
  I actually knew it. He's always going to.
• 1:04:16
  Games is he? Always.
• 1:04:21
  But I was a bit like, why have you gone with that team?
• 1:04:25
  I don't know what his affiliation or association is
• 1:04:27
  with them. To like the Atlanta Falcons.
• 1:04:29
  Nah, less cool, less. I know.
• 1:04:32
  I think it's been made. More cool.
• 1:04:36
  Because Lewis Hamilton that owns it.
• 1:04:40
  Got a weird? Oh, it's because he's got.
• 1:04:42
  He's got, I've said it early, He's got a ranch there.
• 1:04:45
  Oh, the Houston Texans? No, no, Colorado.
• 1:04:49
  Oh fuck. Are they orange?
• 1:05:01
  Stumbleweed. Is it like in the podcast?
• 1:05:03
  Denver's Broncos. Yeah.
• 1:05:04
  Is it? Yeah.
• 1:05:04
  It's Broncos. Weird.
• 1:05:05
  It's weird, isn't? It why is it?
• 1:05:06
  Yeah, that's so bizarre. All right, last one, you'll be
• 1:05:10
  glad to know Serena Williams. Slitchy the there was two there
• 1:05:14
  was when you started this quiz. I was like there's two that I
• 1:05:16
  know are coming up and I was so ready for them and neither has
• 1:05:19
  come up. I'm going to ask you them.
• 1:05:20
  OK, Is the investor in which NFL team?
• 1:05:24
  She's also an investor in the Angels with Natalie Portman.
• 1:05:28
  Is it the Seattle Seahawks? No.
• 1:05:32
  OK. Is it San Diego?
• 1:05:33
  No other coast? Other coast as well.
• 1:05:37
  I think they drafted Quinn Ewes this this last last year in the
• 1:05:41
  ewes. What's he called?
• 1:05:42
  Ewes Ewes. I didn't actually pay much
• 1:05:48
  attention to the draft this year.
• 1:05:49
  I was last year in the years. Is it like, was it the New York
• 1:05:56
  Jets? Dolphins.
• 1:05:58
  It's going to say Dolphins first.
• 1:05:59
  Miami Dolphins. There you go.
• 1:06:02
  Damn. OK, you got Wrexham and into
• 1:06:05
  Miami. Out of how many, 12/12?
• 1:06:09
  I thought that's hard. The only problem with doing a
• 1:06:11
  hard quiz, I had to preface it because I was like, I didn't
• 1:06:13
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• 1:06:16
  But don't, don't come back at me next week with a hard quiz.
• 1:06:19
  Well, let me give you 2 easy ones.
• 1:06:21
  Tom Brady. Who's he part of?
• 1:06:25
  Is it a football team? It is because he played there.
• 1:06:29
  No. Oh, soccer.
• 1:06:31
  Soccer, soccer. It's in the UK.
• 1:06:37
  No. Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  You're going to ask me Snoop Dogg next, aren't you?
• 1:06:41
  No, I should have done Snoop Dogg.
• 1:06:43
  I've forgotten who he part is so.
• 1:06:45
  Brighton or something? No, it's like Swansea or
• 1:06:47
  something. Oh yeah, maybe go on.
• 1:06:50
  Tom Brady owns a a. Are they Prem?
• 1:06:53
  No, I've got no idea. Birmingham City.
• 1:06:58
  No, it's not. Why?
• 1:06:59
  I don't know. That's, well, weird.
• 1:07:01
  Is that a recent thing? Like a year and a half ago.
• 1:07:05
  Oh. Snoop Dogg the next one, KSI.
• 1:07:11
  He owns a football tier. Do you?
• 1:07:14
  Not Remember Me bring I'd actually announced this on the
• 1:07:16
  news. I.
• 1:07:17
  Remember, I wanted, I want to get this one right.
• 1:07:19
  I I think I I think I know it. The Wolverines.
• 1:07:22
  Yeah, it's not the Wolverines. Oh the listeners are are hating
• 1:07:27
  us right now. OK, I was going to say it wrong.
• 1:07:30
  Dagenham and Red Bridge. Would not have.
• 1:07:31
  Guessed. Yeah, because that's where he
• 1:07:32
  start, I think. He's from Dagenham.
• 1:07:35
  No, so he started playing some when he was doing recent
• 1:07:39
  division. He didn't start with Dagenham
• 1:07:40
  and Red Wing did play it. I remember he.
• 1:07:42
  Was saying that. But it's more like full circle,
• 1:07:44
  because that's how he. Started Can you quickly Google
• 1:07:46
  what club? Snoop Dogg.
• 1:07:48
  Yes, I think it, I think you are right in it being Swansea.
• 1:07:51
  Swansea City or something that way, 13.
• 1:07:55
  Swansea City. There you go, the Swans.
• 1:07:57
  That's that's a weird one to have gone and bought but not I
• 1:08:00
  don't know if that's more. Weird, I think it's clubs
• 1:08:02
  reaching out to these. Tom Brady and Birmingham.
• 1:08:05
  Like Snoop Dogg and Swansea makes no sense.
• 1:08:08
  It's great news. But do you think they've gone to
• 1:08:09
  Snoop Dogg and be like, we're one of the best teams in the
• 1:08:12
  world and he's got no idea? No, he's like, sure man.
• 1:08:15
  I think he's like you guys, not crap.
• 1:08:17
  Cool, let's do it. Let's run it, I think, But then
• 1:08:20
  also like Tom Brady, like. Do you guys care if I come watch
• 1:08:22
  a game and smoke while I'm there?
• 1:08:24
  Sure. Let's run it.
• 1:08:26
  All right. Yeah.
• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:29
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• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:36
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• 1:08:40
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