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Strongman Biceps Tear at America’s Strongest Man: What Happened & Recovery Plans Guest Geoff Laney · The Best Experience

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  Speaker 1: Why does white rice help maintain good health? How much
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  Speaker 1: is an appropriate amount to eat per meal? And can
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  Speaker 1: eating too much cause blood sugar problems? Well, Eating rice
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  Speaker 1: does help quite a bit because it's easy to digest.
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  Speaker 1: It's something that's easy for your body to process. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a good way to, um, not, yeah, it's good. It's,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good way to get some carbs in because you,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of, you can go, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: try to eat 40, 40, 20. So 40% carbs, 40% protein,
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  Speaker 1: 20% fat. I mean, it, it's always kept me fairly lean,
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  Speaker 1: but other people kind of have different, you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: macros that they like to do. Jeff, what do you,
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  Speaker 1: what percentage do you like to eat at?
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  Speaker 2: That's relatively the same for me with the 40, 40,
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  Speaker 2: 20 rule. It's pretty gold standard for most strength athletes. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, aside from some throwing some greens in there
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  Speaker 2: for specific antioxidant things, but it's, it's about the same
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, it, the amount, the appropriate amount
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  Speaker 1: per meal would be about, you know, so however many
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  Speaker 1: meals you're going to eat, you want to take 40%
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  Speaker 1: of your caloric intake, which you're supposed to burn for
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  Speaker 1: calories for that day, and divide that by your number
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  Speaker 1: of meals, and that would be what you would want
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  Speaker 1: to eat in calories per sitting, and then you just
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  Speaker 1: have to measure that out. It's different for everybody, because
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  Speaker 1: my metabolism is different from Jess' metabolism, which is different
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  Speaker 1: from Ben's metabolism, so it's all going to depend on
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  Speaker 1: how you metabolize the food. It really is as far
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  Speaker 1: as the calorie number is concerned. So go by that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: eating too much of the rice, though, can cause blood
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  Speaker 1: sugar problems, but just don't eat too much of the rice.
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  Speaker 1: You can get that with any carbohydrates you eat, though.
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  Speaker 1: You can get that with anything. So you just got
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  Speaker 1: to monitor how much you're taking in and eat the
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  Speaker 1: proper amount. But like I said, it's easy to digest.
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  Speaker 1: You put it in with some bone broth. It makes
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  Speaker 1: it even easier to digest. And you mix that with
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  Speaker 1: whatever proteins that you're putting in, whether it be vegan,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's eggs, whether it's beef, chicken, whatever you put
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  Speaker 1: in there, it's going to make it easier to digest
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  Speaker 1: all the way around. So it makes it pretty easy.
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  Speaker 1: And then the 20% fat just almost comes naturally, don't
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  Speaker 1: you think, Jeff? When you're eating red meat or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard to hit.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: When you're eating leaner, like, it's very, you hit 20%
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  Speaker 2: fat surprisingly quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you're just a strict, like, fish-based diet, it's, you
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  Speaker 2: get it quickly. So, that's probably the hardest thing is
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  Speaker 2: to try to keep down me being a weight class athlete. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but that's kind of like the gist of it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not overly complicated, but like I said, just
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  Speaker 1: find out what your daily chlorotic intake number is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be total number and take 40% of that. That
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  Speaker 1: should be your total carbohydrates. So the rice, depending on
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  Speaker 1: whether carbohydrates you're taking in, stuff like that, subtract, add,
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  Speaker 1: but the right amount. I mean, for me, I eat
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  Speaker 1: about probably about a cup and a quarter per meal.
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  Speaker 1: And I eat four to five meals like that a day.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a pretty substantial amount of rice. I can
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  Speaker 1: get like a whole day's rice out of my rice cooker.
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  Speaker 1: So it's pretty nice. I just do a new pot
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  Speaker 1: every day. So it makes it easy for me. But
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  Speaker 1: just find out what that is and that's your number.
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  Speaker 1: It's not super overly hard.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of calculators online for it as well
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  Speaker 2: that break it down like fairly simple. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So go check one of those out too. Thanks, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: I made it easy. So I do like the idea
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  Speaker 1: of you learning how to do it yourself without having
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  Speaker 1: to rely on a calculator though, because you just never know.
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  Speaker 1: And it's always better to know how to actually figure
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  Speaker 1: it out on your own. So anyway, that was a
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  Speaker 1: quick explanation on how to do that. So what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with you? How's your bicep? So you were competing
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  Speaker 1: at America's Strongest Man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, competing at America's Strongest Man, the 105 weight class.
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  Speaker 2: I did fairly well on day one, not as well
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  Speaker 2: as I would have liked to. One of the events
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  Speaker 2: that I was really banking on winning was the deadlift medley. First, second,
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  Speaker 2: and third place was all within a one-second dispersion, so
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  Speaker 2: that you can't even be mad at that because it's
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  Speaker 2: just like, well, where, where would I have done better? Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you can encounter counting like human
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  Speaker 2: error for the timer at that point. Like, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's so close. It's all we're doing with one second.
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  Speaker 2: So it's crazy. And this is between the three of us.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, well, we played back all the videos
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  Speaker 2: and we looked at each other and we timed all
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  Speaker 2: of them and they all came within a second still.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, uh, I ended up getting third. And
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  Speaker 2: so that cost me some points that if I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: done that, then I would have led day one in first, um,
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  Speaker 2: got first on the overhead, um, on the, uh, max
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  Speaker 2: log event. Um, I didn't need to go out for
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  Speaker 2: my third attempt, thankfully. Um, And then.
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  Speaker 1: What was your second attempt? How, how much was the weight?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, 360.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the blog clean and press. So, um, I still
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  Speaker 2: went out for my third cause they loaded it. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and then I missed it, but well, thankfully I didn't
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  Speaker 2: need it.
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  Speaker 1: So it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Um, the, I had a three, seven, three 80, I think, um,
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  Speaker 2: who's fell max distance. Um, they called it a shield carry.
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  Speaker 2: It was a who's felt that was, custom made to
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  Speaker 2: look like um the united states so um uh we've
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  Speaker 2: playing around in the warm-ups we all found out where
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  Speaker 2: the where the best parts are to grab it um
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  Speaker 2: so we all basically went the same and grabbed in
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  Speaker 2: the same spots um front carry i think i got
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  Speaker 2: just over 200 feet and then the first place guy
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  Speaker 2: got like 215 220 um okay I, when I dropped it,
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  Speaker 2: I still had like 15 seconds remaining, but my hands
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  Speaker 2: just went numb. Um, being like a custom crucible, it
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  Speaker 2: had like the state of Florida jutting out and like
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  Speaker 2: the Texas. And so like, when it's like, when you're
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  Speaker 2: carrying it in the creases of your arms, you have
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  Speaker 2: Florida jabbing into one arm and then like California and
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  Speaker 2: the other. So about, I would say at about like
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  Speaker 2: 150 feet, 175 feet, my arm, hands just went completely numb.
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  Speaker 2: So then I just, it just starts, it just starts
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  Speaker 2: going and I just dropped it. I, I was just like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't an event that I anticipated and doing well in.
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  Speaker 2: So I was happy to have gotten second. So I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't upset about that. Um, I knew if I, so
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  Speaker 2: I used figure eights, um, on the deadlift medley.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So the other two guys just use straps,
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  Speaker 2: like normal straight, like straps. I know in myself that like,
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  Speaker 2: if I had used normal straight straps, like they had,
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  Speaker 2: and I had dead lifted with those vice of figure
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  Speaker 2: eights and like sitting there, like having to manipulate them,
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  Speaker 2: that might have been the second that I needed because
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  Speaker 2: I feel as though that my pulls from the floor
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  Speaker 2: were faster than But my transitional speed definitely was not
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  Speaker 2: as quick as they were because they were just drop
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  Speaker 2: and go. So they could hop up over the bar,
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  Speaker 2: immediately get to the second bar while I'm sitting there
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  Speaker 2: trying to get my hands out. So live and learn.
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  Speaker 2: So day one, I didn't even feel like it. that
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  Speaker 2: beat up.
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  Speaker 1: It's, it's, I'm try wild straps next time. Try wild
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  Speaker 1: straps next time. They're super long. They're super long and
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  Speaker 1: they're pretty wide, but when you flip it around once,
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  Speaker 1: because they're so long, you can usually just hold it
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  Speaker 1: with one wrap. It can just go right around. It's
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  Speaker 1: really quick. You just you'd pop it around and just
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  Speaker 1: grab and pull. It'll, it'll, they'll stick. They're really kind
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  Speaker 1: of neat like that.
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  Speaker 2: So like end of day one, like it was only
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  Speaker 2: three events on day one, three events on day two.
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  Speaker 2: So that was great. A lot of the shows that
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  Speaker 2: I've been going to, I have four or five events
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  Speaker 2: on day one.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then day two is the lighter day. So, but
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  Speaker 2: it was just three events, day one, three events, day two.
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  Speaker 2: So I was, I was, not very fatigued. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel anything weird. Nothing was sore. Nothing was broken. I
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  Speaker 2: still went around and walked around the convention center. So
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  Speaker 2: I was having a good time. Um, got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of food, hydrated, um, woke up the next morning, slept well,
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  Speaker 2: big breakfast. We didn't go on until two. So I
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  Speaker 2: slept in a little bit. So everything was going correctly.
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  Speaker 2: And two of the events, were definitely in my favor
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  Speaker 2: to win in day two. One being the bag throw
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  Speaker 2: because I had been hammering my... I went all the
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  Speaker 2: way out of Trey Mitchell's house to learn how to
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  Speaker 2: do bags properly. To do bag throw properly. So I
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  Speaker 2: was hammering my bag throws. I was super confident in
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  Speaker 2: my bag throws. And then stones, I've always been great
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  Speaker 2: at stones. I love stones. Never failed a stone event.
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  Speaker 2: So it was... The event that I tore my bicep on,
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  Speaker 2: it was the first event of day two. That was
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  Speaker 2: the only event that I didn't care for. One, because
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  Speaker 2: it was a carry into a odd object press with
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  Speaker 2: a carry return. Very strange event is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: The distance wasn't crazy and the press weight wasn't crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It was, but it was a 700 pound frame. So,
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  Speaker 2: 700-pound frame, carry it 25 feet, clean and press like
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  Speaker 2: a 250 sandbag, clean and press a 275 keg, jump
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  Speaker 2: back in the frame, carry it back to the start line, finish.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It picked the frame, and we warmed up, obviously. I
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  Speaker 2: had several hours to warm up, so I had already
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  Speaker 2: touched the frame. I went up to 600 pounds. just
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  Speaker 2: doing dry picks. Like, picks, some high knees, drop. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I was feeling good. Obviously, I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to do the comp weight. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to fatigue my hands or anything because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to use straps or anything. So, I've never.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Have you ever warmed
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  Speaker 1: up for the frame with straps so it doesn't fatigue
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  Speaker 1: your grip?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I used to do that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to use them so I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to try.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. We warm up with them. I used
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  Speaker 1: to warm up with those. So I'd warm up with
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  Speaker 1: the straps and then your grip's fresh when you get
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  Speaker 1: to the frame. It doesn't matter how heavy the frame
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  Speaker 1: is when you pick it up in the back room
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  Speaker 1: because it's not going to waste your grip.
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  Speaker 2: Very true. Most of my time, most of my... So
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  Speaker 2: I've never completed a frame or farmer's event without dropping
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  Speaker 2: the implement. And it's always... alluded to my grip strength,
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  Speaker 2: which I've gotten better at, um, over just over the
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  Speaker 2: past year, because I think this time last year, when
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  Speaker 2: y'all had me on a year ago, I had like
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  Speaker 2: a 600 pound frame or even lighter than that. I
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  Speaker 2: think at the strongman for national championship, the one that
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  Speaker 2: I won in 25, the, I had only done, I
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  Speaker 2: think like two or three laps at like 25 feet
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  Speaker 2: with that. And I called it, just because I was
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  Speaker 2: like the one event I wasn't going to push because
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  Speaker 2: I knew that I did not have the grip strength. So,
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  Speaker 2: and I had done the 700 in training plenty of times.
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  Speaker 2: The press weight was never an issue with me. I
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  Speaker 2: picked the frame up. I get three steps in and
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  Speaker 2: I just feel right at the crease of my elbow.
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  Speaker 2: My arm just get two inches longer and drop. I
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  Speaker 2: dropped the frame. Without thinking, I repick it, and then
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  Speaker 2: as I'm walking, I can feel only what can be
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  Speaker 2: explained as like a wet sponge tearing.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I drop it. In my mind, I'm like, wow, my
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  Speaker 2: arm really hurts. I hope I didn't do something. I
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  Speaker 2: go to pick the sandbag. As soon as I pick it,
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  Speaker 2: I get a sharp pain from the elbow to the shoulder,
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  Speaker 2: and I grab my arm, and I'm like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: tore my bicep.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So I do this one-armed clean up, rip the sandbag
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  Speaker 2: up to my chest. I'm able to press it, drop it.
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  Speaker 2: I typically take the kegs and I tilt it to
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  Speaker 2: my strong side, my right side.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Tilted it to my left side to clean it up,
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  Speaker 2: to use the momentum with my left arm up. I
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  Speaker 2: press it, drop it, and then I carry the frame
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  Speaker 2: back very slowly. Mm-hmm. But I did finish the event.
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  Speaker 2: I still got like 32 seconds. But not nearly what
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  Speaker 2: was needed to win the event. I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: I got last. I think there was one guy who
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  Speaker 2: did not complete or did not finish. But still, in training,
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  Speaker 2: I was doing sub 30 every single time. So I
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  Speaker 2: was anticipating that. But I wasn't able to finish the event.
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  Speaker 2: back throws because my arm and then I wasn't able
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  Speaker 2: to finish the stones because of my arm but I
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  Speaker 2: did go to attempt to finish them and then I
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  Speaker 2: tied for third in the very end of it so
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  Speaker 2: and you.
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  Speaker 1: Still tied for third so you still did pretty good
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  Speaker 1: even though you didn't finish the last two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I was one point away from first going into
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  Speaker 2: day two but I was like four point three or
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  Speaker 2: four points in front of third place so I had
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  Speaker 2: at least that cushion Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it says something when you can do that, tear
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  Speaker 1: your bicep off, realize, well, can't hurt it any worse.
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  Speaker 1: Let's finish this. You got the heart and the will
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  Speaker 1: to finish it. I mean, that's kind of like what
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  Speaker 1: a true warrior does. You know, I mean, if it
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  Speaker 1: was something like, oh my God, I'm going to hurt
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  Speaker 1: this worse, then you know to stop. But You know
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  Speaker 1: it's off. You know it rolled. You can't hurt it
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  Speaker 1: any worse.
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  Speaker 2: It's just one of those feelings that you knew that
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  Speaker 2: it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gone. Can't hurt it any worse.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just keep rolling. There was no guessing it. Like
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  Speaker 2: I grabbed it. I grabbed it and just like it
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  Speaker 2: felt like I wasn't grabbing anything. And just the pain
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  Speaker 2: that I had in that moment and then the tearing feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, it's gone. And then I
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  Speaker 2: actually just got my MRIs back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And from like looking at the side of the arm
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  Speaker 2: like this, it's just like the bicep is like sucked
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  Speaker 2: up into the armpit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I still got some nice bruising on the back
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  Speaker 2: of the tricep.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like full. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, make sure they screw that in. Don't let them
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  Speaker 1: just suture it in. Make sure they screw it in. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't let them use super glue, staples, whatever they want.
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  Speaker 1: All of it. Well, if they did the suture, it
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot longer to heal. It takes a lot
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  Speaker 1: longer to be able to use it again. If they
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  Speaker 1: use the screw, like what Terry Hollins did and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of the other guys did, you can use it
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  Speaker 1: right away. You just got to be careful with it
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  Speaker 1: to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to not tear it. I got with an orthopedic
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  Speaker 2: surgeon that has worked with the state of North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: has worked on some of the Panthers, NFL players. This
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  Speaker 2: gentleman knows athletes. Knows hard-headed athletes, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not like we're not hard-headed.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: At times, which is If he's worked on a bunch
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of NFL players that have torn hamstrings, torn Achilles, torn biceps,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and then want to be back out on the practice
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: field in two weeks, I'm sure that he knows. Oh, yeah. So,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: as of right now, I bowed out of OSG. I'll
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: still be there. But I'm just... I don't see any reason.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I haven't even gotten surgery yet, and this weekend will
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: be two weeks.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So I don't... You'll be okay.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see the point in pushing it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Unless for some reason, like the week before, I'm like, yes,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I'm at 100% right now, which the likelihood of that is.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: slim to none.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. I'm still going to go. I'm still going to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: show up, go good faith, help out the athletes, do what.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I can, volunteer.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Because I already paid for my ticket, so I'm still
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: going to go.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It's... I, uh, nobody else to blame. So like, I'm
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: not going to be like weird about it. I know
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: some guys like they get injured and then they like
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: become a Hobbit that that's not what this is. I just, yeah, I,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I screwed up, but what's a strong man to, you know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: If you're doing this sport, yeah. If you're doing this sport,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you're going to have injuries. You're, The likelihood of tearing
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a bicep if you get to an elite level of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: strongman is probably about 70%, I would say, at.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Some point in your career. It was my time. Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: You learn a lot, though, after you tear them. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the likelihood of doing it again, unless you're being reckless,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is much smaller. I just remember feeling like such a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: heel when you got out of the car and I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: didn't see... your arm all bandaged up and I didn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: know what happened. And we're right in front of my house.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Right in front of my house. I have a 500
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pound frame just sitting there in like the walkway as
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you walk in. And I was like, Hey, there's a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: frame if you want to do it again, Jeff. And
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: everybody's just like, Oh, he doesn't know what happened. Oh,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I was just like, and then I see your arm
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Oh my God, what happened? You're like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I tore it up. I was like, Oh, I felt
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: so bad.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: No, it was funny to me.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It was like perfect timing too. It had happened just,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you know, a few hours ago.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh my gosh. I felt so bad after that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: The good thing about that one is it's a little
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: bit more narrow when you, when you go to do it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So you don't get extended out that much. These people
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: with these frames that are over three feet wide, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't, I don't know why you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: build them that way. I mean, there's the only people
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that like can really not have an issue with those
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: are the guys that are all over six, five, six, six.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: They have seven foot wingspans.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. There's a few like in giants and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of the other ones that you do. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it's the spans, like you're, you're out like super wide
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: trying to hold it. And it's like, this is weird.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't sit right in your hands at all.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause it's like hooked on the outside of it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And you don't have like an actual grip on it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Right. I got lucky. I had really strong fingers, so
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I was still able to do very well with those frames,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean I liked them. I just kind
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of knew what I was walking into, but then kind
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: of what to try to get ready for. And I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: would always ask the, What's the distance, what's the width
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: between the handles? So that you'd have some type of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: idea where, how wide it was going to be and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: then how to train accordingly. But sometimes they answer that question,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes they don't.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I definitely believe that a lot of arm accessories are
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: probably going to be in my near future. Because all
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: things considered, looking at timeframes from now, post-surgery, post-physical therapy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Probably around the holidays, I would say I'm going to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: be back to, you know, training weights for just about everything.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And first week in March is the Arnold open. So
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that'll be three months out for that at that point.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So I'll be in prep for that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So that'll probably be the next one that I, that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I look for. I mean, they just released the world's
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: strongest firefighter. this week. So that means that they're going
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to start rolling out the strong man stuff soon. They
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: always do firefighters and the first responder stuff first. So
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: they'll do the masters next and then everybody else.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. It'll be good to see you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: back out there.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I'll be excited. I'll be very, very excited.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So go, uh, go have some fun and get back
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to the, back to the game. But I mean, it's,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: it's one, it's one of the things you always learn
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: from the, you always learn something from things like this
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and like some of the arm accessories and stuff like that. I, I,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I would always turn my biceps. Um, it kind of weird,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: but I would do alternating curls. Then I do hammer
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: curls and then I do French curls, you know, 10,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: 10 and 10 with like 45, 50 pound dumbbells. So
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it's 30 reps of curls. And I do like two
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: sets of those. My biceps would just be fried after that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And after I started doing those, I really didn't have
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of bicep problems anymore. The soreness that
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I used to get at the beginning of my career,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and I tore mine at the beginning of my career
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: in 2007. I tore my left one and learned a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: lot from that and just kind of changed everything. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: my bicep problems were gone probably by 2008. Didn't have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: those problems anymore. So that seemed to be pretty, pretty
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: effective for me. Biceps.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Like I trained triceps for pressing capabilities, but I just,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I've always, I've skipped biceps or like I I'll do
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it like every other week. If I'm having like an
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: off day or I've never diligently done it on a
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: week to week basis, like scheduled program.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So it should be on back day. Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I typically have like an accessory day where
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I even can catch up on some stuff. If I haven't,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: if I haven't been able to train it throughout the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: week or like, I'll have an active recovery day where
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's like, either I do my core work or some
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: lighter accessories like that. I'm sure that it's, they're going
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to get sprinkled in there. Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually did that today.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I left work a little bit early. Uh, Went down
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to Dragon's Lair and did lats and biceps before the show.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Got in the truck, drove home, took two bites of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: food and made your favorite recovery drink. Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It's in my fridge.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice. Nice.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Big jar of it in my fridge.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that stuff. It's a mixture of about...
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: almost half water and then a quarter of uh organic
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: cranberry juice and a quarter of organic strawberry lemonade and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: it is quite tasty and very refreshing and very hydrating
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: so it's it's good.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: All the way yeah just a nice sip on it
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: throughout the day now because it makes me not crave
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: like energy drinks or anything else.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly exactly and then The organic cranberry juice has
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: stuff in it that'll stimulate your thyroid too. So it'll
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: give you a little bit of energy as well. Any
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: oxidants in iodine, there's iodine in organic cranberry juice if
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it's not frozen. So it's good stuff. Gets you moving
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: around a little bit. I learned that from Stan Everdeen.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sounds like a Nathan Payton thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably both of them actually. Nathan's got the, like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the little wonderful candy and cakes and stuff like that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: before you go. That was, oh man, that's, I was like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh. He's like, well, looks like he tests
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: my blood. He's like, looks like you're ready to take
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a nap or read a book. He's like, come here.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And he's like, eat this, eat this, eat these candies.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And he goes, should be about three minutes. And about
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: three minutes later, I just, started feeling a whole heck
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: of a lot better. I was like, oh, we listen
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to Nathan.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. It really is. He's been very
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: helpful to me as well. I just bounce stuff off
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of him. Hey, what do you think of this? What
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: do you think of that? As far as my food goes,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, you're doing it. Maybe throw in some
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Rice Krispie Treat things before you go train. Just a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: little bit, maybe two or three of them, and that's it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: He goes, and then after you're done, you know, get
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a little dextrose and stuff like that in as well.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool. And he goes, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: then get your protein. I was like, all right. Worked
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: pretty damn good, I think. I loved it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I felt great. I love snacking on granola bars when
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going to the gym. Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of cool. You feel better. You get
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: moving faster. You get in there, you got plenty of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: energy for your training.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Carbs are good right before you go train. They really are.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And then they're also good right when you finish. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: then the muscles are just starving for glucose. And then
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: after that, start getting your protein in. And it works
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: pretty good. So it's worked very well for me. That's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a nice shirt. Yeah. You like it?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: That was actually supposed to be my last World's Strongest Man. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I typically have it hanging up in my gym. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I figured that today would be a good day to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: bring it down. Sure.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. Anytime I have any friends over,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I get to point at it now.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just me. I'm just me. That's what
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it is. I'm just me.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So I have your shirt and then right next to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: it is a signed poster that I took from his
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: gym of Trey Mitchell.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, right on.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: That's cool. He had two of the exact same world's
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: strongest man, like SPD headshots. And it says Trey Mitchell
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: side of it. It was like, are you going to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: do something with the, with the second one? And we're
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: just sitting there looking at him and he's just like, no,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: but they gave me two. So I put them up
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, well, can I, can I have one?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: He's just like, yeah, which one? I thought, I thought
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he didn't tell me hell no, but he was like, yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: he just like pulled it down and he got a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Sharpie and he signed it for me and I pulled
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it up. So yeah, now that's, that's in the gym. He,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he sits and watches my lockouts.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Trey's a great guy. He really is. He's a
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: good kid. I call him a kid and he's a
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: grown ass man, but to me, he's a kid.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So he might be a little older than me. Hmm.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I've, I've had so much fun, you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: with him and his career and stuff like that. It's,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it's neat to see everybody grow and, you know, become
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: what they're, what they're able to do. Him making the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: podium last year was so cool. Especially after getting fourth
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. So.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Very well deserved podium.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he could be on his team to help
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: him with that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, uh, he, there's a couple of things
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that if he straightens out a little bit, I'd, or
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the events change a little bit, I think he can
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: win the whole thing. He really can. He's that good
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of an athlete.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: He's always near guaranteed to be in the finals. If
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: he had a finals that was more static-based, which would
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: be literally anything, if he had just more static-based stuff
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in the finals, anything static is in his favor.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think if he went in 10... Probably 11,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the China one. There's a bunch of the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: contests that if he was in that Z Brian era,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: he would have scared a whole lot of people.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was a lot of heavy, heavy static shows.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And a lot of those events he would have
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: just absolutely done well in. And then the frame at
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: World's Strongest Man is not like, the frames, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: most frames around the world, the handle is, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit thinner, you know, it's, it's actually quite
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: a bit thinner and it's, if you can set it
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in your fingers, right. Or in the palm, right. It's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: pretty easy to hold onto for guys that got bad grips.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: So it's just set really wide. So I think Trey
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: would probably do really well on that frame. Um, If
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you would ever use that frame back in those times.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Especially the barrel sand one that we did in 2010.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Because that thing was really thin. And the sand in
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: those barrels was kind of interesting. Because you could feel
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it move a little bit as you're running with it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: But it was still pretty solid once you kind of
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: figured out how to level off the sand right when
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you walked up. If you shook it a little bit
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: right before you went to picket it. it leveled it
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: off and made it really much, much better to carry.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I was too cautious with the thing on the way down.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And then I came back and I was just, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: just flew on the way back. I should have flown
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that fast on the way down, but it was, I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: was too cautious with it, but that was my first one.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: So I was, it's one of those things where you go, okay,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: well learned, but it was cool.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Anytime that I've talked to him about you, he always
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: references you as uncle Nick.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Love that kid. I think he actually, he's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest working training strongman I think
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: He outvolumes literally everybody.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yes. I trained with him for four days in Houston
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: during the heat wave. It was about 115 to 120 pounds.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: on the heat index. It was very, very humid. Houston's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: right on the Gulf. And it was just like, there's
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: no cooling down. The inside of his gym stays relatively
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: around 95 to 100 degrees. Still humidity. And it's just,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: we were just creating puddles in there. We trained for about,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I think we would start, we'd walk into the gym
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: at about 8 a.m., we'd probably leave around three to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: four and we, like we would do full event days
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: with accessories. Like we would do five, five different events
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: or lifts or whatever. Um, and we would then do
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: accessories to boot for those events of like, if we
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: did carries, we would do two accessories involving carrying grip.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And then if like I had, I had log pressing.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: So then I did tricep and press accessories. And then
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: he did, um, Conan's wheel. And then, so we did
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a bunch of like back marches afterwards. And it was
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, there was no, there was no stopping.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It was like, we just rolled right into the next thing. So, yeah,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I think he, I haven't been in Augusta in so long.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. No, but that's trade. Doesn't get tired at contests.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Trey can go the same thing all the way through.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think if Trey cut his volume down by about 20%,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: he would probably take a leap forward that he just
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't believe he'd be possibly able to make.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: He has an engine like no other, because he would
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: already be up by 5.85. He'd be up by 5 a.m.,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and he would either make his breakfast or go get breakfast.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And I was going and getting my breakfast while I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: was there. And he'd be up. He would have breakfast.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: He would have second breakfast. And then he would then go,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and then he would make one of those giant, like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: five-gallon Gatorade coolers. It would have electrolytes, aminos, and water.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And I think he even put, like, barb powder in there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: He'd just take the whole five-gallon jug, and he'd shake it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Sounds about right to me.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Drag it out and you drag it, carry it out there.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And then I would bring a whole box of granola bars.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I would have just a plethora of, of like Pedialyte
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: body armor, water bottles and everything else. Cause like the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: first day I didn't know what I was getting into
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and I had to leave multiple times, probably with him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And then second day and the rest, I knew just
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to like basically bring a refrigerator in there because you're
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: not leaving.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So, Unless you're about to craft yourself, like you're in there,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you're there to work because that's all he does is
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: he just works.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: He is probably the greatest healing machine. Yeah, he's probably
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the greatest healing machine I think I've ever seen. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: really do. Because I don't think there's anybody out there
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that can survive the volume that he does.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe the volume, not in those conditions.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Like it's the conditions that he trains in that is
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: absurd because I, I'm one of those individuals that I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: train for several hours without breaks. Like I will do,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I will have like 90% squat days with 90% deadlifts.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: And then I'll roll into a press medley and then
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I'll roll into a carry medley. And then I have accessories,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: all the boot with those things. But my gym, my
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: gym's only 800 square foot. It has a dehumidifier. It
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: has two different air conditioners. It has nice rubber flooring.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It's completely insulated and sealed. Off from the world. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: have my own cooler and refrigerator in there with my
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: own bathroom. Trey doesn't have any of that. No. Trey
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: is in a 2,500 square foot aluminum side building with
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: no airflow. It has the stagnant air of a morgue.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Have fans? It's 2,500 square foot, Nick.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: He has one shop fan in the corner that if
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you're even in the middle of that gym, you will know.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And then he has one window unit for an AC
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: unit that is just trying.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Why do I feel that gets replaced about once a year?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah. I was just baffled by, it was like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like looking at the ceiling and I'm like, you
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: know that brand big ass fans? Yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Trey, brother, you have 70 feet of uninterrupted
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: space from side to side. Get you something to circulate
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the air in here, brother. Your shoes are dripping.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't you say something about His feet would leave
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: wet marks everywhere he walked because his feet were even wet?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: He would be wearing shoes. And as he walked around,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: he left footprints while wearing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Shoes.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: My God. He did not look uncomfortable.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: He was talking, laughing, holding conversations, but looked like somebody
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: had dumped the cooler of water on him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So it'd be kind of interesting. It'd be interesting to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: get somebody who like does research and go sit there
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and see how his body copes with that immense heat.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Because I trained, it was really hot when I was
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: training out here. He'd be 115, 116. We'd be out
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: doing events in the street, but we'd start in the garage.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So I'd squat in the garage, then go out and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: do the yoke and then do like a farmer's run
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and then come back in. And then we'd go out
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and do a truck pull and, you know, come back
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and do an event or do some accessories and then
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: do a truck pull and then end with a medley,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and it was like four hours, sometimes four
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and a half hours. But I would, we would leave
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in the middle of training, go jump in the pool,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: get out of the pool. And by the time we
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: got back out on the street and everything, most, most
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: of us were dry because it would evaporate off us
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that fast. Cause there's, you know, during the summer here,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: it's like six, 7% humidity. It's not real humid. So
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you'd get in the water and it'd cool you off,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and it would evaporate off of you.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It actually felt pretty good when I was there a
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's, it's nice. I mean, when
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it drops down to like a hundred degrees between 90
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and a hundred degrees, this place is amazing. It's, it
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: starts getting over one Oh six, one Oh seven, one
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Oh eight. Yeah. Starts getting a little hot.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You can keep pretending that. No.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: This California boy right here likes that 60 to 70.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you like that fog rolling at the night to
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: cool everything off. That's it. And that cool breeze. Just
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: leave your windows open at night and wake up and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: it's nice and cool.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And I live in the outer banks of North Carolina,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: so I'm five minutes from any open waterfront to the Atlantic.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: It's 50 degrees here tonight brr yeah it's like uh
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we're getting to that time where we start getting that
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: that northern air airflow come down and then during the
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: night it just cools everything off it's nice because then
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: during the day it's only getting up to mid 80s
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and you have that nice cool breeze coming in perfect
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: it's only going to be like this for a week
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: two weeks and then we get into our heavy rainfall
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and hurricane season Because it's all that tidal air swirling.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: So then we're going to be driving a month from now.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Man, no. It's 96 right there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey, I don't... So it makes sense now. At
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: this past World's Strongest Man, it was out on Myrtle Beach.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Incredibly hot. It was raining sparsely on and off. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it's like Trey was like in his element oh yeah
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: he was he was walking around shirt off joking and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: everything else while a lot of the other competitors seasoned
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: competitors are like in the athlete cooling tent and they
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: got like cold rags on them and whatnot yeah and
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: trey's bebopping around chad's having to run him down and
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: tell him to go sit yep.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Trey sounds like will you go sit down He's like, no,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm okay. Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And the other Texas boys too, they're used to that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Nick and Austin, they have this whole big backyard that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: just theirs and heavy metal that they have all their
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: strongman stuff out. Because at first I was outside looking in,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: you go into heavy metal and it's a very, very nice,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: well air conditioned, lit, like it's state of the art. Right?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: All all name brand equipment, all calibrated plates out the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: wazoo and everything else. And it's just like, oh, you're
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: in a nice, nice gym. And then you walk out
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: back and they just have one shipping container and then
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: loaded from back to front of just anything and everything
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: you can think of from a Conan's to who's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: felt stones to bags, throwing implements, carry implements, kegs, farmers.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: What happened? So when they got to drag all that out,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: that's how they train. So props to them.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is why the heat doesn't bother them either.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: But I think Trey, Trey can, Trey can win the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I think he also can win the strongest
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: man on earth again too.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So it's just, yeah, that's coming back.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He'll, he'll be one of the favorites for that,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: especially with the heavy stones that, that Brian likes to do.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: And some of the events that Brian likes, it's just,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: The grip events usually, you know, he struggles with a
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: little bit in those with the arm over arm and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: some of the other stuff. But I think if he
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: ever kind of figures that out a little bit, I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: think he can like literally run away with that thing
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: because he gives up so many points on the one
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: or two bad events that he has and he's still
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: right up there. You know, I think if he figures
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that out a little bit.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: He gave those points back.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he doesn't give those points away.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: It's like top three.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, easy. Without even a thought. So it's like
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: he's just got so much potential. He really does. And
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's going to outwork him. I really don't.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But that's why I say I think if he cuts
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: back on his volume about 20%, his body will heal
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: just that little bit more, and that could be the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: difference there. I mean, because you don't have to, you
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: put the work in for the training, but you don't
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: have to win the training. You have to win the contest.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And if your body's still beat up and you haven't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: tapered the training down enough, going into those last like
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: three and four weeks, you end up not being quite as,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to make it through. You're going to have
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: your condition to get through it. But that little bit
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: more that you'll have in the tank that you need
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to push over that edge won't be there. And I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: think that's something that if he tapered just a little bit,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: it would make a very large difference for him. It
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: really would. Just that little bit more in the tank left. Because,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: like I said, he's not going to come in under-conditioned.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen for him. No.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: He could roll it back and save some space.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Right. It's like just tapered off just a little bit
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: more because you don't need to keep right at the
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: edge all the way through. You need to back off
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: those last couple weeks and let your body catch up.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And then when you hit there, you just let it fly.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be hard to catch them. It
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: really would.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was supposed to go out there with the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: team to the road, but with my bicep. They don't
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: know what a surgery is going to look like because
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like I said, I see it with them tomorrow about it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: So like, they can be like, we want to do
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: it this weekend or we want to do it right now.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: We already have you.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Or they could say next week or week, you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: don't know. So I was going to be with the rogue.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I was going to just jump on one of the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: guys like coaches passes and I was going to go
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: out there with them, but it was just like, not
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: going to be able to make it. I'll be there
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: at the Arnold though. So I'll be competing, but I'll
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: be there at the Arnold. So, um, uh, I wanted to,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: because it was, um, going.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: To be.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Austin, Austin, Trey, Bryce, Bryce is going, um, and, um,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Tom Evans. So that's the guy that was going to
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: go out there and support, uh, with, um, strong iv
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: so wouldn't have been able to do any iv stuff
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: because it's overseas but i can at least like can
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: i get you water hey.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: No that helps the funny thing is we'll talk shit
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: to them, keep them entertained, keep them focused, keep them
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: to where they're not like... Sometimes you just need to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: take your mind off of things as you're waiting between events.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And that's always a good thing. I just.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Enjoy being around, especially those guys that I just named off.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And I wish... I hope that Nick Gardione gets in
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: gets into the rogue um soon um i understand that
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the rogues that their selection process is very very particular.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: It is he'll get there he'll get there he's he's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: he's improved every year yes um he is not having
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a year like.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Evan did he was gonna do asm but after giants
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: he was just like i should listen to my body
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: i need the rest so and kudos to him for
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: doing it uh Mm-hmm.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Smart.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Sure. Like, you know, like, we also thought Evan was
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: going to win. So that new guy, Martel Johnson. Mm-hmm.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, watch out for him.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Watch out for him. He's doing nothing.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: He– before the show and we got to learn about him,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: like he's brand new. Like he did two shows beforehand.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: He did, he did one amateur and then he did
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the Las Vegas pro-am and ASM and the Las Vegas pro-am.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: He got his pro card. So he gets the automatic
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: invite to ASM and then he just goes and in
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: between day one and day two, I think we're like
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: out to eat or something and we're talking and it's like,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: what events don't you like? And he's just like, I
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: like them all.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who likes them all?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you like them? He's like, no,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I really, I'm really good at all of them. And
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: sure enough, he really was actually good at all of them.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's got, he's, he's going to be another one.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: He'll be another to a certain degree, Mitchell Hooper. He's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: not going to have a lot of bad events. It's just,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Will he be in the top? He's got the ability
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to be in the top three and all the events.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Every time.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Every time.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Like a points game. And I, and I hope to
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: see him at big shows because like just talking to him,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: like one-on-one, like when, like he's, he's a cool dude.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: He's a great person.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: He's a genuine human being and stuff like that. Cause
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: like I talked to plenty of the other open guys
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: and they just see me as a one Oh five.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, yeah, I mean, I know, but like,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you know, sorry, I'm not taller.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you could go that route if you
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to, but it's just, man, it's, that's a lot
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: of weight to put on.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Kevin Fares did it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Kevin is, Kevin is also what, six one?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ish.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taller than Rob Kearney.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: My, my personal opinion, well, yeah, my, my personal opinion
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: is you're strong enough to do it. You, you, really
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think have an understanding of how just strong
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and powerful you really are.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Yes. Here's the thing is I understand that.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Cause your static strength is near that level. And you're,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you're in the one Oh fives.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I have, I have 12 years of active duty service
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: running on this body. So I, I, I do bring
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. When we were joking in your
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: living room talking about how our bodies run like an
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: old car with four different owners, a repossessed title, and
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the insurance has bounced twice. That's kind of what it is.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Could I?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Kevin Fares. Rob Kearney. I'm blanking on his name.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Italian. Italian?
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Nick Camby.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Camby, yeah.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: So sorry. Those guys were great. They became great open
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: guys too.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Could I?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Sure. Sure. Um, I just, I feel as though
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: my time doing it is probably going to be fairly short.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Right. Because if I were to do it, it's kind
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: of like, I'm, I feel as though that I'm going
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to want to jump in, do as best as I
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: can for a couple of years, hopefully get one of
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: these shirts with my name on it. I don't even
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: give a crap about making the finals. Like with the shirt. Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you'll actually do that because, again, you're
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: really well-rounded too. Thank you. You know, 275, 280, your
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: static strength will be high enough to do that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: You can wait on.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have to love to hate eating.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: And you're going to have to be on a schedule. Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Timers.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Timers and shoving food in your mouth, whether you
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: like it or not, and eating it all, whether you
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: like it or not.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: After, um, after strongman core nationals last year, um, I had, uh, I,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I finally gotten coach. Um, he's, um, retired Marine also, uh,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: masters one Oh five. He's been in strongman for 20
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: some odd years. He's a, he's bigger in the equipped
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: power lifting scene. Um, But he knows both angles of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: what I enjoy in strength and powerlifting and strongman. So
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: he understands that I still want to be an active
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: competitor in both. Obviously, if I were to go the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: open route in strongman, my attention is going to be
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: towards that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: You can still do both.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: One will accent the other, actually.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Because if I get like a big invite, right. If
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I were to get like an invite out of the blue,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: because I was, you know, I was an alternate or something,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: but I had a power lift, like a big power
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: lifting meet, like an ABS pro or something like lined
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: up on the same weekend. Like, well, what do I take?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: So I don't have anything like that going on. So,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: you know, we're just talking semantics, but, um, it, it, Strongman,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: sometimes I've learned being around guys like Trey, especially like
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Nick Gardeon, coming up so quickly, right? It's not about
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: winning every show. It's about what shows you show up to.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: So even if you're not winning every single show, but
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you're getting to the finals every time, you're getting to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: top five every time, you're consistently doing well. So that's
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: like kind of what I've been trying to do.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: And you have a sense of humor.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: And you have a sense of humor and you can
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: talk to people and stuff like that too. You can
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: talk when somebody sticks a mic in your face. That
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: also helps a lot as well.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just like, it's not about, I don't
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: go into the shows like I have to win. If
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I don't win, I'm a piece of crap. If I
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: don't win, I retire. Like I just shoot for top five.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and have fun doing it. And hopefully not, I don't know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: tear a bicep or something, but you know, that was
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: so far down the list that I forgot about that one. Um,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: but you, you get what I'm saying? So it's like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: maybe the opportunity rises and I can do the open.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So like the Arnold that I'm going to in March, it's,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: it's for the open week class. So it'll be my
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: first open show. I've always, even as a novice in amateur,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I've always done two 31, the one on five. So yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I've never been a 90. I've never done an open show.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: So it's like, that's going to be my first one.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: What's the heaviest you've been? Like ever, even in training?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever broken 240.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: So what do you think a good target weight is
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: going to be to be in the open? 265.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: 270. Because at the same time, I'm going to play
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: to my strengths. What I do have is speed and conditioning,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to lose those things.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: So what's your walk-around weight right now? Or what's your
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: walk-around weight normally?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: 235-ish.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: But I'm just eating.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: To be full. 255.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: That's a good number.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: You could cause a massive amount of damage at 255.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: you really reach in for 265 or 275 it's gonna
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it's gonna change the way your body.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Works too much yeah it starts changing a lot.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: That would be another year down the.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Road yeah 265 to 275 yeah.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't have a whole lot of frame to
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  Speaker 2: work with.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So I was just, it's funny cause I was sitting
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: there watching you walk around and we're looking at your
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: back and the, the muscle density and the thickness you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: have is fricking amazing.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: And I, I, I have my MRIs from my bicep.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: It looks, because there's like zero fat lining around it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: It just looks like a perfectly cut rib eye. I'll
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: have to send you some of the screenshots after this.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's funny how that works. There's no intermuscular fat.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: The muscle density is so high, the only place you
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: got your body fat is in between your skin and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the muscle. That's it. there's not a whole lot there.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: So it's, yeah, you're doing it right. But I think
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: 255 would be a perfect weight because you get a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: lot stronger, you get a little bit bigger, your leverages
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: have changed to benefit you, and they wouldn't change so
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: much that it would hinder you. At 265 or 275,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: that fast, the leverages are going to change to the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: point where it's going to throw a few things off.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where I'm not able to relearn it. Right.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Whereas a 255, you're going to keep all your speed,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you're going to keep everything, but you're going to just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: be that much stronger. You really will. I think that's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: probably a perfect weight for you to shoot going into that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: And it'll still be 15 pounds heavier than you've ever been.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know doing something like in the open, it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: would be I would have to play to my strengths,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: speed and conditioning. Um, I know that I'm not going
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: to be the statically strongest guy. I know that there's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: some events that I could very easily hang out in. Um,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: but that's due to like my, my overhead press, right?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Like I've pressed in the four hundreds, uh, plenty of times,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: but that's due to like, like drive and technique.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Right. But that's going to improve with that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Cause I've been, it's about stealing points. Yeah. It's about
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: stealing points and making smart weight choices. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: So just make the points where I can know that, like,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: if it's like a max deadlift, I'm going to have
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: to eat those points and just, okay, well, we have
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: a carry, a carry death medley afterwards. So yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just be smart with, with, with your weight choices
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: and get everything out of it that you can. That's like,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you'll be fine. And then you'll get to the medleys
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and you'll steal a load of points. And then guys
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: will be like, well, wait a minute. You're going to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: hurt some feelings.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at my weight class, Arnold, yeah, the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Arnold Pro-Am this year in 26, we had like a log, sear, dumbbell. No.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Log.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Log. sear dumbbell log sear dumbbell.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: So we started at the dumbbell and it was like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: a 175 sear dumbbell, like a 285 log clean and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: press a 200 pound or 220 or something sear dumbbell
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: clean and press. And then like a three 15 log,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I completed it in 18 and a half seconds. Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: That's, that's kind of what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: But like there was other guys who completed it with me,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: not in 18 seconds. Um, but stuff like that, like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: medleys is my shoes because the weight is a crazy. So,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: and it's like in that the, the, the opens, the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: opens only had like 30 pounds heavier than us, like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: across the board for all of their weights. That was
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: not out of my shooting range.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: No, I know. So I know it's, it's limiting the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: other events and it's, um, it's, you know, just making
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the most of your strengths and the strengths will be
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: like really high point making events. And then just got
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: to come in with the strategy of figuring out as
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: they're picking the weights, where to, you know, pick your
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: best lift and then put pressure on other people to miss,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you know, yours or theirs. So you might want to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: pull your, if you get three deadlift chances, like on
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: a max deadlift, pull your biggest lift on the second
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: lift and then go put a nice, another big number
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: up there on the next one and let everybody go,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. And they got to jump to that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: and they, they fail and you get, you get your points.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: There's many different ways around that.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: And the second attempt was a PR.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: You just keep your mouth shut. Well, I felt pretty good.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Can't wait till the next one. Go walking off. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: got a hugger. I think I got at least 30 more.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I totally crapped myself.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Go, go, you know, wipe your butt and be
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: kind of happy to go sit down.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And I hope nobody saw that.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What happened? You didn't go out for the last
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: deadlift to be like, ah, I felt a little twinge.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we've hit that hour mark, you guys. man,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: we've killed this conversation. I know it flies by so much.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I know it goes quick.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Uh, what's called, uh, Jeff, throw out your social medias there, man.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Let everyone know where to find you. And you won't,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: you will be at OSG this year.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I will be at OSG. Um, my, my main account
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: is like my Instagram. I don't really do anything else
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: on Tik TOK or Facebook. It's just, um, G-E-O-F-F underscore L-A-N-E-Y.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: No numbers, nothing else. Jeff underscore Laney. And then if
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: you pull up my thing, it says The Fridge because
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: it's my nickname.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I will put that link in the notes for everyone
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: who's watching too.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that so much.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: So please go follow him, like, share, and subscribe to
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• 1:05:48
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• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: And so, uh, you got anything else before we, I guess,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: shut it down now. Cause Ben must be hungry.
• 1:05:59
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, cool. Well, everybody, you got anything else, Jeff?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: No, thank you so much for having me on again.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: It's always a blessing.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's a blast. We got to do this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: again soon. Plus, it'd be good to just check on
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: you and see how your bicep's healing and talk about
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: your prep for the Arnold and stuff like that. So
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I think that'll be a lot of fun.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do it after the holidays and see
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: where I'm at.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. So please like, share, and subscribe. And as always,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: train hard, train smart, and be the best You can be.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: And go out there and be great and have a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: great day.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Smarter than me, at least.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Push with your triceps when you're pulling the frame off
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the ground. Extend those things.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: We know now.
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