Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / "My Wife Is Threatened By My Research About How I Can Improve As A Lover"
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- 0:30But anyhow today I have a reader question.
- 0:35A listener question. He's both from a man.
- 0:39Who. Well, he's trying to make things
- 0:42better with his wife and he doesn't understand why she's
- 0:47really not happy about it. So just let me read the
- 0:50specifics of this situation. Here's a good question for you.
- 0:55Love this confidence. What do you do when your partner
- 0:59feels threatened? When you try to better yourself
- 1:02specifics? 08.
- 1:03So just let me give you my Stream of Consciousness.
- 1:06I thought he's going to say something about like working out
- 1:09or, you know, changing his diet may be going back to school,
- 1:13something like that. But no, no.
- 1:15Let's see what it means. Specifics, I know I'm not the
- 1:19best lover when it comes to the bedroom.
- 1:21She's too nice to say it but I know things could be better.
- 1:24I have been researching different ways to improve this
- 1:27area and I found some sexual Mastery courses in the interest
- 1:31of transparency. I mentioned this to her on a
- 1:33couple of occasions to gauge her reaction.
- 1:35And have a conversation around it, both times ended up in a
- 1:38quick change of subject. So I decided to pull the trigger
- 1:40and do it for me. Fast forward a few days and she
- 1:43sees the charge on the credit card statement and immediately
- 1:45goes into interrogation mode. Obviously, there is something
- 1:48there that she's not cheering with me, but is there anything I
- 1:52should be doing or do I keep driving?
- 1:54The self-improvement Train full? Steam ahead?
- 1:58Thanks. Well listener.
- 2:01Like, you know, self-improvement is kind of a funny way to Ride
- 2:05this. And I think that, that is really
- 2:08at the root of your wife's anxiety, suspicion, and
- 2:13ambivalence about this. So I really know what your
- 2:17sexual Mastery, course entails, nor to be honest.
- 2:21So I know why you need it. If you are a loyal listener and
- 2:25follower, because I give them an all the tips they need.
- 2:28But let's say that you decide that you need this to be a
- 2:31better lover. I got so much to explore with
- 2:34this first. Out of all you say that, you
- 2:36know, you could be a better lover.
- 2:37But she says you're fine. Then you interpret is that that
- 2:40she's being nice. How do you know?
- 2:43Maybe she thinks you're good. Maybe she doesn't really care
- 2:46that much about sex at all and so she doesn't kind of know what
- 2:51is good or not good and she thinks that it's fine how it is.
- 2:55Maybe she actually prefers that you might listen to her or have
- 3:01like a discussion. I know you're going to tell me
- 3:03you've tried to do that but maybe they're just like maybe
- 3:05One specific thing. She doesn't like and she doesn't
- 3:08need like a whole bunch of other sexual Mastery techniques.
- 3:13To get her going. It just seems like, she's really
- 3:15not a part of this. And if you're a married guy,
- 3:17you're not supposed to be doing anything sexual for you.
- 3:20You're supposed to be doing it for the couple.
- 3:24So if she's not onboard, do you not take into sexual Mastery
- 3:28course? So that's that's what I deeply
- 3:31feel. She does not know what a sexual
- 3:33Mastery course is. I don't think she wants to know
- 3:36at in a worst-case scenario. She could think that this is hot
- 3:41porn star women basically having sex with men on screen so that
- 3:46the men can show you how to do that.
- 3:49And she's not cool with that as nobody would be pretty much.
- 3:54I'm not nobody there's some women that would like to watch
- 3:56with their husbands, dad does not seem to have been on offer
- 3:58either, you're going to tell me she would never do that but if
- 4:01she would never do that then why are you who are you?
- 4:05Trying to be with that's basically what she's thinking.
- 4:07She doesn't like this sexual Mastery idea.
- 4:10She doesn't like you watching people have sex on TV or
- 4:14whatever you're going on the Internet or whatever this
- 4:17involves. I don't particularly think that
- 4:19this sounds like something most women would like to hear their
- 4:22husband was doing, there are books on this, whatever happened
- 4:25to Google. How much are you paying for this
- 4:28thing? You know, who is teaching this?
- 4:31It's like if this is about her, it's not being done.
- 4:35In a way that is fulfilling to her.
- 4:36Your sexual Mastery needs to be about your specific partner with
- 4:43in a monogamous long-term relationship.
- 4:45So she's already said that she's uncomfortable and whenever you
- 4:48try to broach the topic she said she's fine.
- 4:51So let's like do it in an analogy for you that maybe would
- 4:55be easier to understand so you sound like a guy is down for a
- 4:58good time. You're open-minded, which is why
- 5:00you're taking your sexual Mastery course.
- 5:02But even you are going to have some heart stops.
- 5:05So let's say that your wife really like the idea of MMF
- 5:09threesomes and two guys on her and you really not feeling it
- 5:14and let's make it even better. Let's say that she likes the
- 5:17idea of, you know, just being totally with another guy while
- 5:22you watch. Lets you may say cool, I'm down,
- 5:26but there's people, you can pull, whatever is your heart
- 5:29stopped. Maybe it's her using a strap-on
- 5:32on you. Maybe it is her getting
- 5:34gangbanged and whatever is your heart stop.
- 5:37So let's say she tries to Broach that, you know, I really want to
- 5:40get better at gangbangs. I really think that would be
- 5:43good for me. It would be very empowering and
- 5:46it would be really helped with my self actualization and the
- 5:50arena of sex and you're like no no.
- 5:54And I don't like that idea at all.
- 5:56And she's like, well, you know, I mean, this is really something
- 5:59I have to do for me. So I am going to take a course
- 6:02on how to get gangbanged and So it's going to be on the credit
- 6:07card. It's actually recurring monthly.
- 6:09So every month I'm going to learn a little bit more about
- 6:11how to get screwed by a bunch of men all at once.
- 6:15I mean, you see my point here, you're not, you can be like,
- 6:19what what do you want? I'm I'm your husband, I'm
- 6:22telling you, I don't want that. What do you learning how to do
- 6:25something? God, I don't want, you know, and
- 6:28does this mean that you don't want me?
- 6:30Cuz I'm telling you, I'm fine as it is, you know?
- 6:33And so she does not whatever you're going to be learning
- 6:36their, you don't even say that it's about the couple you say,
- 6:41it's about your self improvement unless you are thinking that
- 6:47you're going to leave her, which is, of course, what she's
- 6:49thinking. Why is this man want to
- 6:50self-improve? If I'm telling him, I'm fine,
- 6:53who is he becoming a better lover for if I'm saying I'm cool
- 6:58with it as it is right. This is very destabilizing and
- 7:02it leads to a lot of insecurities.
- 7:04So I really do not Blame her for interrogating you because sexual
- 7:09self improvement is only about the self.
- 7:13When you do not have a committed partner, so we need to be
- 7:17figuring out more like what you and your wife can be doing
- 7:22together to improve your sex life.
- 7:26So you could read books maybe you can Google some stuff.
- 7:31I don't know about an entire sexual Mastery course that She
- 7:35feels uncomfortable with if I were you since you've already
- 7:38paid. You know, I would say listen, I
- 7:41understand that I may not have gone about that in a sensitive
- 7:43way. You do always tell me that sex
- 7:46is good, maybe this is my issue. I have insecurities and other
- 7:49areas and maybe this is one of them.
- 7:51I'm sure you have insecurities in other areas, if you're
- 7:54insecure in this area, people are just insecure in one area by
- 7:57the way. So you would say to her.
- 7:59So will you do me a favor? I'm ready to cancel the thing.
- 8:02I think I want about it. Ham-handed lie, it's not.
- 8:05You know, I didn't mean to make you feel suspicious and if you
- 8:09were researching in-depth, something that I said, was not a
- 8:12problem for me in bed. I would wonder why to so, you
- 8:16know, how about this? You sit down with me and we
- 8:19watch the thing together if it makes you uncomfortable.
- 8:22If it's basically, you know skinemax then I will stop taking
- 8:27my course. If it's some dude with like, you
- 8:30know, a PowerPoint about how a woman's vagina works then.
- 8:35And you're cool with me watching it, then then I will with, or
- 8:39without you. And I think that that would be a
- 8:42much better way to approach it. You're owning your own
- 8:45insecurities and the fact that you just really blew past her
- 8:50opposition, you try to bring this up and say that you're not
- 8:53good in bed and she says, you are.
- 8:55So I don't know why you're not telling me.
- 8:57It's probably one of the following either.
- 8:59You come to quick. So you're figuring out how not
- 9:02to prematurely ejaculate, where you don't need a whole The
- 9:05social Mastery course. You need the book, the
- 9:08multi-orgasmic man so go buy that or you are thinking.
- 9:13This is the one that worries her that there was this whole other
- 9:17sexual level of fulfillment. That your wife has, if you just
- 9:22unlock her and if you just unlock that level like in a
- 9:27video game, then you're going to be having transcendental sex.
- 9:30Yeah, terrifying, frankly, terrifying.
- 9:33That is for the majority of women.
- 9:35And long-term relationship, they're trying their best to,
- 9:38you know, get it going for you on a regular basis with some
- 9:42level of enthusiasm. Despite remember refer back,
- 9:45women have zero spontaneous desire, all responsive desire.
- 9:49So she's trying and then she's thinking, you're going to be
- 9:52trying all this weird shit. She's gonna have to manage your
- 9:56ego and your emotions shouldn't have to tell you what a good job
- 9:59you're doing. She's gonna have to worry that
- 10:01you were just watching this on a screen with a hotter.
- 10:03Younger woman, who is able Three orgasms in a row because of this
- 10:07wonderful technique that you've just discovered.
- 10:09This is so much pressure. It's so much pressure.
- 10:14So I say that your wife is really quite normal in finding
- 10:21this to be a lot of pressure and you are normal in this fantasy.
- 10:26That there is this other in like incredible sexual realm of your
- 10:31wife that you're going to unlock, but let me tell you,
- 10:33there's probably not. Some super transcendental other
- 10:37realm, you may learn how to do a few things better, but you could
- 10:41learn that without watching, people do it.
- 10:44And if you say that it is the guy with the PowerPoint,
- 10:47alright? Then watch it with your wife,
- 10:49really asked her to do it and also tell her that you don't
- 10:51have to take the course if she's uncomfortable with it in the way
- 10:55that I tell you, but let me like now delve into this fantasy that
- 10:59you're not alone in having that men think that if they just
- 11:03learn the magic, you know, Pattern of foreplay or
- 11:08intercourse or whatever. Then they are going to unleash
- 11:12the inner porn star in their wives.
- 11:15Listen, this probably not true. You can always learn to be
- 11:18better. I tell you many things that
- 11:22could help you increase foreplay increased massage before hand,
- 11:27allowing the woman to warm up. Gradually, understanding the
- 11:33order of operations for some of these things.
- 11:35Switch that you're not touching the woman's genitals before
- 11:37she's ready to being more dominant.
- 11:41Many what? I mean, I could link you to a
- 11:42lot of stuff I've written about this.
- 11:44I am again, personally offended that you would think that you
- 11:48need a sexual Mastery course after reading my blog.
- 11:50No, I'm kidding. But I mean for real though.
- 11:53I mean, it's interesting that like, like, if I think about it,
- 11:57right? You reading my blog, you're
- 11:59listening to my podcast, you're Googling shit frantically on the
- 12:02internet and you're taking this course.
- 12:04It's a lot. Time thinking about sex.
- 12:06It really is and it is going to freak your wife out, she just
- 12:12like a normal woman. I picture with a kind of low sex
- 12:15drive, she's trying to tell you that it's good.
- 12:18She and and that's it. Like that is how it is in her
- 12:21mind. The more pressure you put on
- 12:23this area of your relationship, the worse.
- 12:24It'll get so back to the fantasy.
- 12:26Yes, you can learn to do some more things, but what are you
- 12:29going to get? You're going to get your wife to
- 12:31have an orgasm. Maybe 10 minutes sooner or to
- 12:34have to At me, like she's not gonna look at you and be like,
- 12:38oh my God, you've changed my life now, I want to, you know,
- 12:42become this sexual goddess. Let's sell the children and just
- 12:47stay in bed for days, on end, pleasing each other endlessly.
- 12:50If your wife had that capacity, I'm picturing.
- 12:53She's in her 30s or 40s, right? If she had that capacity, she
- 12:58would have shown it to you at some other point, you know, by
- 13:02the, by the way, like this idea. That a man can unlock a woman's
- 13:07sexual potential. This is a fantasy, both gender
- 13:10share equally stupidly equally wrong because only a woman can
- 13:14really understand her own self, you know, when women wait and
- 13:19lay back and wait for like a man's sexual prowess, to wash
- 13:23over her, like a wave and Transformer that shit doesn't
- 13:26work you. The woman needs to be in it to
- 13:28win it and she needs to value and prioritize sex herself.
- 13:31Now, your wife she's paired with you.
- 13:35He's no fool. She knows this is your obsession
- 13:37if she wanted to start researching how your sex life
- 13:39could be better, she would have done it a long time ago.
- 13:42So she is probably somebody who will never be obsessed with sex
- 13:47in the same way as you are a she doesn't have testosterone like
- 13:50you be. This is not an area of profound
- 13:53insecurity and need for self-actualization.
- 13:56Like it is for you which should be explored by the way, you
- 13:59know? I mean, yeah, you're a man, you
- 14:01have a higher sex drive you like sex, but the amount that you're
- 14:04researching this It, you know, needs to be explored as to what
- 14:09you think this is going to transform for you.
- 14:12You know, you got some self-esteem issues here that I
- 14:15think you are thinking. There's going to be this fantasy
- 14:18way that increased sexual prowess is going to fix and
- 14:22solve your internal insecurities and it's not magic like that.
- 14:27You know, you may learn how to do some fluttering shit with
- 14:30your fingers and you're still going to have your insecurities.
- 14:33So it's not going to be as Transformative, as you want, but
- 14:37women need to be invested in their own sex lives themselves.
- 14:43They cannot wait for a man's sexual prowess to just transform
- 14:47anything for them. It doesn't work like that.
- 14:50And when men think that, it works like that, it doesn't work
- 14:53like that. You know, there is no world in
- 14:56which your wife is going to completely change her attitude
- 15:00about sex because you have learned a couple of new
- 15:03techniques, you know, at Very least, you know, she can at the
- 15:10least she's just going to be irritated with you for
- 15:13continuing to perseverate on this now including spending
- 15:17money on a course. But at most you are going to
- 15:20have a few better encounters. But I don't think that that's
- 15:24worth all the pressure that this puts on her, nor the
- 15:28continuation of what seems to be kind of an obsession about being
- 15:31the best possible lover, which is definitely going to be a turn
- 15:34off to To her. So hopefully this gave you a
- 15:39little bit of a different frame to understand this.
- 15:41Now, I am in no way saying that a man or a woman cannot learn to
- 15:46be better in bed. What I'm saying is take a look
- 15:48at how much of the time of your day you're thinking about this
- 15:52and how much you are Googling and researching and thinking and
- 15:55paying you know to think that something that this is going to
- 15:59be the transformative miracle, that makes you feel more
- 16:03empowered. And that makes Our whole
- 16:05marriage better. It's usually doesn't work like
- 16:08that. It's like almost trying too hard
- 16:10and it's going to be a turn off to her for all the reasons that
- 16:14I have mentioned. So I hope that this is useful to
- 16:18you as a little bit of a different Viewpoint that may be
- 16:22what your wife wishes that she could articulate, but she can,
- 16:26because maybe she's shy, maybe she doesn't want to hurt your
- 16:29feelings or whatever. So I hope this was useful.
- 16:33I hope it was useful for everybody.
- 16:35Ooh, listen, because a lot of men, struggle again, with this
- 16:37fantasy of becoming the perfect lover, and all that, that will
- 16:41entail and their wives, hate it in equal measure to their
- 16:45enthusiasm is the enthusiasm that their wives have for hating
- 16:48this because of the pressure, because of the obsession,
- 16:52because of how they are going to have to, then potentially manage
- 16:56this man's feelings, when he is trying all these things.
- 17:00So it is really interesting for both sides of this equation to
- 17:05Listen to this information and to see what it can, maybe make
- 17:08you think and realize about your own Dynamics around sex with
- 17:12your partner. Thanks for listening, guys.
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