Latest / True Crime with Gavin Fish / Affidavit Says Michael McKee Stalked the Tepe's Home Weeks Before the Spencer & Monique Tepe Murders
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- 0:01In the last 24 hours, more information has come out in
- 0:06terms of documents out of the Franklin County Court in regards
- 0:11to the arrest of Michael McKee, the ex-husband of Monique Tepi,
- 0:16who is charged in the murder of both Monique and her husband,
- 0:21Doctor Spencer Tepi. We've got the document, we're
- 0:24going to get into it. Stick with me.
- 0:38This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
- 0:41only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
- 0:47Well, hello there, my friend, and welcome back to another true
- 0:51crime conversation with me, your host, Gavin Fish.
- 0:55Thank you very much for being with me tonight.
- 0:57Thank you for joining me. Wherever you're joining me from,
- 1:00don't forget romper room style. We want to know where you are
- 1:03tuning in from, tuning in as if you as if this is 1986 where
- 1:10you're joining me from. And I just love that part.
- 1:14But if you're into true crime, you'd like to cut past fluff,
- 1:17sensationalism, you'd like to, you know, temper your news of
- 1:22crime with humanity with some compassion.
- 1:26This is where we do it here. At least that that's the ideal.
- 1:29That's what we try to do. If that's your thing, then you
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- 1:34Thanks for being here. I appreciate it.
- 1:38Delicious, delicious reverse osmosis water.
- 1:42Because I live in an area of the world where for some reason the
- 1:48water that comes out of the tap just tastes awful.
- 1:51But anyway, guys, who we talking about?
- 1:53We are talking about Spencer and Monique Tepe, the Columbus area,
- 1:58Ohio couple. He a dentist, she a incredibly
- 2:05educated and purposeful stay at home mom for the couple's two
- 2:13children whose lives were cut down violently at the hand.
- 2:20Police say of this man, Michael McKee, Also Doctor McKee, that
- 2:27this whole this whole case is just it's just so much.
- 2:32It's just so much to take. But if you guys remember, Doctor
- 2:38Tempe did not show up for work and that was so out of character
- 2:43for him that his coworkers, his colleagues full on called 911
- 2:51saying we can't get a hold of him and we can't get a hold of
- 2:54his wife either, which is even more concerning.
- 2:57Please go and check on him. Meanwhile, all friends are like
- 3:01headed over there to the house to, to check on him.
- 3:04And sure enough, they are found deceased in their home.
- 3:08And there's there's a lot more to it than that, but that's
- 3:11that's basically how we got here.
- 3:12Now. Police put out the Columbus
- 3:15policeman. The Columbus police did such a
- 3:19good job, I think, and utilizing traditional media, new media,
- 3:28social media and getting a video out there.
- 3:33This is the video of their suspect, who they say is Michael
- 3:38McKee. And, you know, so many times law
- 3:42enforcement and prosecutors do not.
- 3:46They, they resist working with us.
- 3:49And, and I think it's to their detriment.
- 3:52I really do. And of course, I'm a Monday
- 3:53morning quarterback. And of course, I also have some
- 3:57skin in the game of, of working with law enforcement who will
- 4:02work with us. So, you know, it's biased for
- 4:04sure, but I sure am grateful that the Columbus PD did what
- 4:12they did. Now, we have seen documents in
- 4:16this case already before. We have seen arrest warrants,
- 4:21including some, we've seen indictments.
- 4:26But this latest release of documents, and I should say,
- 4:33I've linked in the description a Facebook group that I think that
- 4:40you should check out by the Docket.
- 4:41He hasn't been streaming on YouTube.
- 4:44I've seen him on TikTok. His name's Eric, but his channel
- 4:48was called The Docket, and he's so good at getting documents.
- 4:54I joined that group and he published what we're going to
- 4:58look at today in that group. And so I wanted to give a shout
- 5:02out to Eric and thank him very, very much for sharing these
- 5:07documents. OK, There's some other
- 5:09documents, in this case, by the way, having to do with Doctor
- 5:15Michael Mckee's malpractice suits.
- 5:19There's a federal one. There's a state one in the state
- 5:21of Nevada. So we might get into those.
- 5:27I don't know how germane they are to to the case.
- 5:31I haven't really started reading them because if I recall
- 5:33sometime like 400 pages. It's crazy.
- 5:36But I will share those documents up on Patreon after the live
- 5:42stream tonight for my patrons and thank you very much the
- 5:46patrons who make it possible for me to obtain things like that.
- 5:50Often times it's just oftentimes it, it costs a lot of money,
- 5:55oftentimes it costs a lot of work.
- 5:57And then sometimes, just very occasionally awesome people like
- 6:00Eric make it easy on me. This is a bit of a diatribe
- 6:05here, but media like to report things that are in documents
- 6:13characterize what they say without showing the actual
- 6:16documents. And I just I get it.
- 6:19I know why they do. I mean, we do it in my day job,
- 6:22you know, right. We we don't share affidavits of
- 6:25probable cause or criminal complaints.
- 6:27We write an article on it. But I like to get to the nitty
- 6:32gritty. So very grateful that we got
- 6:34this. OK, so let's get into it after
- 6:38that long when it no, let's not wait a minute.
- 6:40Gavin, you are skipping Javi. Javi, this is not your fault.
- 6:45This is my fault. But if you could please just
- 6:47remind me to romper room style head on over to the live stream
- 6:51and see where people are are tuning in from.
- 6:57What do we got? What do we got?
- 6:58What do we got? We got British Columbia in the
- 7:00house. We got to Calgary, lots of
- 7:06neighbors from the north. That's pretty awesome.
- 7:08We got inner banks. North Carolina.
- 7:12We have got more in North Carolina.
- 7:14More North Carolina. We've got more North Carolina.
- 7:19What What else do we have here? Ireland is in the house.
- 7:23Be creative. Thank you.
- 7:25North Carolina here. St.
- 7:27Augustine, FL, North Carolina. Wow.
- 7:30Alexander. I, I'm I'm I'm.
- 7:33I apparently do well in North Carolina.
- 7:35Alexandria, LA in the House. Indiana, Colorado, Southeast
- 7:39Pennsylvania. Oh today is 1986.
- 7:44Today was the is the anniversary of the Challenger disaster.
- 7:48I remember it so well. Thanks for bringing that up in
- 7:50the comments. Schmoopi.
- 7:53I was living in Orangeville, California.
- 7:57I was in 6th grade. Being the type of kid that
- 8:01wanted to be an astronaut I loved everything.
- 8:04Space Shuttle. My dad also worked for defense
- 8:09contractors and specifically he worked in solid rocketry, solid
- 8:16fuel rocketry. I, I was so into it.
- 8:19I go to school early in order to see the launch.
- 8:24They were showing it to students who are interested in the
- 8:26library, and there I sat with my friend Tyler and a couple of
- 8:30other people watching the TV. You remember those carts with
- 8:34the TV And you know what I should have, I should have like
- 8:37music for not only when I go on a tangent, but when I go down
- 8:42memory lane, I should have some sort of memory lane.
- 8:44Javi, Javi, make a note. We're going to want to do that.
- 8:48Javi's doing great, by the way, by the way, anyway.
- 8:52And we watched, we watched the, the, the vehicle explode.
- 8:58And it was, I mean, that was that it, it was heart wrenching
- 9:06and destroying at the tender age of 11, which is what I was at
- 9:10the time. And it turns out when not too
- 9:14many years later, in fact, not even a year later, my future
- 9:19brother-in-law walked into my life and showed me pictures of
- 9:24him and his folks. They were there at the launch
- 9:27when it happened. It's crazy.
- 9:29Anyway, thanks for bringing that up, Lake George.
- 9:31And you know what? I can't.
- 9:32I mean, I got it. That definitely was a tangent,
- 9:35right? Yeah.
- 9:40But I got to have music for. For when I go down memory lane.
- 9:43London Town in the house. Louisiana.
- 9:47North Carolina. Erie, PA.
- 9:48Southern Illinois. Icy Central Arkansas, Colorado,
- 9:53man, we got, we got people from all over the place.
- 9:56Scotland is here, Cincinnati, Prescott, AZ is here.
- 10:01It's not Prescott, everybody. It's Prescott for those of us
- 10:04who have ancestry from that area.
- 10:08Newcastle, Australia, suburbs of Charlotte, NC, some Norcross, GA
- 10:14guys, thanks so much. Thank you for tuning in.
- 10:18I could be here forever, maybe I should, but thank you very much.
- 10:23OK, getting back into the case at hand, bringing up the Tepies.
- 10:31What I want you to do while I'm reading this document is if you
- 10:35have any questions or input or want any clarification or my
- 10:40opinion on something, put GF in the comment and live chat.
- 10:43That will help me to see it over on my end.
- 10:46All right, let's let's hop on into it.
- 10:49And I saw the comment. I will thank the docket for
- 10:51this. Very cool.
- 10:53OK, so this was filed in Franklin County Municipal Court
- 10:56against Michael David McKee. This was filed on January 11th.
- 11:02It was released yesterday. And you know what, Ohio, thank
- 11:09you very much for being on the transparent side of things.
- 11:14So badge number 1842 Russ Weiner or Weiner swears and affirms
- 11:21through his own personal knowledge, the following.
- 11:23Here is the summary statement of facts in support of probable
- 11:26cause to arrest Mr. McKee. On December 30th, 2025 at 9:57
- 11:34AM, Columbus Police Patrol officers were dispatched to 1411
- 11:38N 4th St. on a check on the well-being of a Doctor Spencer
- 11:43Tepi who had not shown up to work.
- 11:46Officers arrived and found Doctor Tepi and his wife Monique
- 11:49Tepi, deceased inside suffering from gunshot wounds.
- 11:54We understand. I can't now I'm second guessing
- 11:59myself, but I I believe I read that Monique suffered 1 gunshot
- 12:06wound to the chest and Doctor Tepi suffered multiple gunshot
- 12:12wounds. 2 minor children were found inside the home physically
- 12:18unharmed. I like to put that in there.
- 12:21They were not unharmed. Their parents were stolen from
- 12:24them, snatched right out of their lives, but they were
- 12:26physically unharmed. Columbus Fire medic #7 responded
- 12:31pronounced both victims deceased at 10:11 AM Columbus Police
- 12:36Homicide Unit Team 2 was advised responded and initiated an
- 12:41investigation. Early on in the investigation,
- 12:46detectives were advised by identifiable friends and family
- 12:50of Monique Tepe. This is new right here that
- 12:57Monique had told them her ex-husband, Doctor Michael D
- 13:00McKee, had been abusive and had made numerous threats on her
- 13:06life during and after their marriage.
- 13:12An an identifiable witness told detectives that Monique Tepi had
- 13:18shared an allegation against Michael McKee of forced unwanted
- 13:23sex and of strangulation. Let's pause here for a second
- 13:27because you guys know that I got a friend.
- 13:32He's been on the show before. Brian.
- 13:36Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian.
- 13:39Why am I blinking on? Hold on, I got it.
- 13:43Brian Bennett. Goodness sake.
- 13:46Took me a minute. Former law enforcement and
- 13:52strangulation expert. He and I are actually talking
- 13:58tomorrow afternoon. He's going to allow me to record
- 14:00it and we will probably pay play that recording tomorrow night
- 14:07like because there is a there's a component of strangulation
- 14:14here. He is the person to talk to.
- 14:15And he actually said in the e-mail to me before this
- 14:19information came out, the likelihood that there is a
- 14:23strangulation component in this crime is very high just because
- 14:28it's ADV situation. OK, So what we're talking about
- 14:37here is SA, right? And strangulation.
- 14:41Another identifiable witness told detectives that Michael D
- 14:45McKee had told Monique that he could kill her at any time and
- 14:50would find her and buy the house right next to her, that she
- 14:54would always be his wife. And this reminds me of a comment
- 14:59that came in yesterday after the live chat ended.
- 15:03This is full on like the the story of what is that movie with
- 15:11Julia Roberts sleeping with the enemy, right?
- 15:13Like, he's hyper focused, he's fixated that he would never,
- 15:21ever let her go, that he that she would always be his wife.
- 15:28He would. I mean, this is sick, sick
- 15:32stuff. OK.
- 15:34And of course, this is alleged at this point.
- 15:36This isn't proven. This is alleged.
- 15:39During the investigation, detectives were able to identify
- 15:42a suspect through neighborhood video surveillance.
- 15:46This suspect was tracked to a vehicle which arrived just prior
- 15:49to the homicides and left shortly after the homicides.
- 15:51This is something that we knew already.
- 15:54Video of this vehicle and very distinct features allowed
- 16:00detectives to identify both a stolen Ohio license as well as
- 16:05an Arizona license being displayed on it at different
- 16:09times. What does this tell us?
- 16:11He wouldn't have made those changes on neighborhood cameras,
- 16:15right? This is him trying to evade.
- 16:18This is him trying to evade automated systems that would
- 16:23look for that look for that car through its license plate, its
- 16:27registration number. So he's got, I mean, he's based
- 16:33in Illinois. I'm sure he had an Illinois
- 16:34plate. He had an Arizona plate, he had
- 16:37an Ohio plate. And he's, and it's saying, at
- 16:43least as I read this, it looks like it's saying that Ohio and
- 16:46Arizona licenses were both stolen, but at least the Ohio
- 16:52one was stolen and it was displayed on it at different
- 16:55times. So I'm sure that they use the
- 17:00automated, you know, camera systems to look for the car.
- 17:04But here's the thing, criminals. Here's the thing.
- 17:07Those things don't. They're not just license plate
- 17:09readers, man. Like, I shouldn't be giving this
- 17:13away. This is a highly educated, smart
- 17:18person. OK?
- 17:20But dude, if you're driving a car with very distinct features,
- 17:24that means that means, like, I don't know, a dent on it or
- 17:29wheels that you particularly like, or it's got a sticker in
- 17:34the window or, you know, whatever things that make it
- 17:38distinct. Those.
- 17:41OK, Listen, All right, criminals.
- 17:47Listen. Uncle Gavin here, OK?
- 17:49It's your Uncle Gavin. Listen to me.
- 17:54You are stupid. That I mean, I'm just being
- 17:58honest with you because I'm your uncle and I love you, right?
- 18:01You're stupid. The thing that you don't
- 18:06understand about law enforcement is that this is what they do.
- 18:11It's what not only what they're trained for, it's what they want
- 18:14to do. OK.
- 18:16They like digging into the minutiae of things.
- 18:20They, they like solving crime. I don't know, they, they get
- 18:24satisfaction out of it, right? And they, they, they just really
- 18:30like getting to the granular stuff.
- 18:32So there is nothing that you can do that is smart enough to
- 18:35outsmart them. Like, dude, just stop being
- 18:42criminals. Stop with your criminal
- 18:44behavior. This has been Uncle Gavin.
- 18:46My goodness, guys, killing me anyway, so he had very distinct
- 18:55features anyway, the the stolen Ohio license and Arizona license
- 19:00being displayed on at different times.
- 19:02The these automated systems don't just look for they're not
- 19:07just licensed readers, man. They they'd look for specific
- 19:10cars, goodness sake. So what have we learned here?
- 19:13I don't want to, you know what? I'm going to put it out there
- 19:16because because criminals are not smart enough to to listen
- 19:22and take advice on this anyway. But don't drive a car that has
- 19:28distinct features. Like do your research.
- 19:32Find the most driven car and the most driven color.
- 19:37If you're Oh my goodness, so dumb.
- 19:40Just so dumb, dumb, stupid, OK dumb all right?
- 19:49Further searches showed this vehicle to be associated with
- 19:52the past address of of Michael McKee as well as his current
- 19:56work address in Rockford, IL Additional video was obtained
- 20:00and showed McKee in possession of the vehicle prior to and
- 20:04after the homicides. OK, is this the same?
- 20:13Yes, this is a continuation of the of the affidavit, the PCA.
- 20:21OK, continuing the affidavit, detectives also recovered video
- 20:26of the same suspect entering the cartilage of 1411 N 4th St. on
- 20:33December 6th, 2025, and exiting a few hours later when the Tepes
- 20:38were away. Let's talk about curtilage here
- 20:40for a second. I probably should just grab an
- 20:42actual definition, but it basically is like your front
- 20:47yard, your patio, the the easily accessible and maybe even what
- 20:54we would call publicly available areas of your home.
- 20:59Curtilage the area of land around a house and forming 1
- 21:02enclosure within it. So yeah, your yard, your front
- 21:08porch, your back porch, basically all around your house.
- 21:12Your yard is is your cartilage. So he was seen entering the
- 21:18cartilage of that of 1411 N 4th St. on December 6th, what 3
- 21:26weeks before the Tepes were murdered and exiting a few hours
- 21:30later when the Tepes were away. These dates are consistent with
- 21:34video recovered of the silver SUV and are consistent with
- 21:39dates which Michael D McKee was not on schedule at Saint
- 21:43Anthony's Hospital. See what I mean about the, about
- 21:46the granularity, the, the specificity of what their
- 21:50investigation is going to do. And this is 11 days in, man.
- 21:55This is 11 days in OK. On January 9th, 2026, detectives
- 22:04seized the silver SUV, burying the Arizona temp tag from the
- 22:09lot at Saint Anthony's Hospital, Rockford, IL, where Michael D
- 22:13McKee works. Detectives notice fresh scrape
- 22:17marks on the window where the sticker ah, this is.
- 22:21The distinctive piece of it which had been on the vehicle
- 22:25prior to the homicides had been hastily removed.
- 22:29Once again, Mr. Mr. Dillholzer, maybe take your time removing
- 22:41things. No, Don't criminals just stay
- 22:43stupid during the time of the homicides?
- 22:48Michael Mckee's phone. Oh again.
- 22:52This is once again showing malice aforethought,
- 22:55premeditation, consciousness of guilt.
- 23:00His phone had been left at Saint Anthony Hospital in Rockford, IL
- 23:03and showed no activity for approximately 17 hours from
- 23:08December 9th, 2025 until after 12:00 PM on December 30th, 2025.
- 23:14We understand it was in the early morning hours in the 3:00
- 23:19hour that they believe the murders took place.
- 23:23More recently, while Monique and Spencer Tepe were at a Big 10
- 23:27championship game in Indiana on December 6th, 2025 with several
- 23:32other couples, Monique went back to her hotel room early in the
- 23:38second-half. When identifiable friends asked
- 23:41Spencer why Monique had left the game, he told them she was upset
- 23:46about something involving her ex-husband and was going back to
- 23:50the hotel. This is sleeping with the enemy
- 23:55man. He just, he couldn't let go.
- 24:00He couldn't. We're going to talk to Brian
- 24:01Bennett about this tomorrow when I talk to him.
- 24:05I'll record it and play it back for tomorrow's episode,
- 24:10tomorrow's live stream. But this just feels like a movie
- 24:14plot, right? That a sick, sick fixated
- 24:20individual on on his wife. Then ex-wife just couldn't let
- 24:28go one of these if I can't have you nobody can have you kind of
- 24:32things. So she was dealing with this.
- 24:37I mean, they were married what they were divorced what, 7-8
- 24:41years ago? Wasn't it like 2017?
- 24:48Is there more? I think that is the end.
- 24:51So what did what did we learn here?
- 24:53We just a couple things that were new here, right?
- 24:56One that he made numerous threats on her life during and
- 25:02after her marriage. He essayed her and strangled
- 25:07her. Again, I should say these are
- 25:10allegations that he told her, he threatened her life, told her
- 25:17that he would buy the house right next to her and that she
- 25:20would always be his wife. Fixated much here man that he
- 25:25pre planned. I mean the evidence is clear.
- 25:29He pre planned it. He left his phone behind.
- 25:32He he changed license plates, changed tags on the on the
- 25:40vehicle at least twice. He cased their house.
- 25:49That's those are my words, right?
- 25:50Doesn't say casing or anything but he entered and exited the
- 25:53curtilage on December 6th and he apparently on that same day, on
- 26:00the same day there was something that was involving her
- 26:08ex-husband that upset Monique and she went back to the hotel.
- 26:11I wonder what that thing was. I wonder if it was something as
- 26:15simple as they had a ring doorbell camera and they saw it
- 26:19or did he call her? Did he text her something?
- 26:25And I'm sure that more is going to come out now.
- 26:28And his last court appearance right now, you're right here.
- 26:32Make your parents call you first case, please.
- 26:34Good afternoon, your Honor. Steven, Shawn, can you down this
- 26:36real quick? So in his last court appearance,
- 26:40which lasted all of a minute long, I think it was less than
- 26:4448 seconds. No, no, it was less than a
- 26:47minute. He waved his right to reading
- 26:53the charges. He waved his, you know, his
- 26:57bail. I, I wonder if there's going to
- 27:01be a preliminary hearing because I know there's an indictment,
- 27:06right? At least that's what memory, if
- 27:09memory serves, there's an indictment.
- 27:11Let me just make sure that I that I have that correct.
- 27:14Just going to go to my case file here real quick over to the
- 27:18Tepes into my documents. Let's see, there is malpractice
- 27:30lawsuit. Yeah, there is an indictment,
- 27:34right? So I wonder if there will be a
- 27:39preliminary hearing on this or if we're just going to move into
- 27:42like status conferences or something like that.
- 27:45I, I don't know, I want to get his mug off of here.
- 27:48Let's get our victims mugs on and let me just check in to see
- 27:54what you guys are saying about the case over here.
- 27:59Let's see, Mooney says. Thanks, please thank the docket
- 28:03for sharing with us. I certainly have and will again,
- 28:11Brooke says third live in a row from Baltimore, MD.
- 28:13Glad you are here. Yeah, not snowing in Utah.
- 28:17I've noticed, noticed it's been pretty darn cold where we are.
- 28:24So many places. So many places.
- 28:27Emmy, I'm 10 years older than you.
- 28:28Yeah, I'm kind of an old guy. Kind of an old.
- 28:31Yeah, I I'm gathering from me saying that I was 11 years old.
- 28:35So. Yeah.
- 28:37What else we got in here for your comments?
- 28:42Jenny says book start, book smart, street smart and common
- 28:46sense are all very different in deed.
- 28:51It it's it seems like this guy. We're just going to show him
- 28:54briefly. Ready.
- 28:56This guy, he there, there must be just some kind of, like,
- 29:03weird mental fixation. I I don't want to give him the
- 29:06excuse of mental illness, but, yeah, just just so dumb.
- 29:13Yeah. Uncle Gavin hasn't shown his
- 29:14face in a while. Yeah, it's been a while.
- 29:20Uncle Gavin gives good advice, all right?
- 29:22Uncle Gavin gives very, very good advice.
- 29:27Yeah. Nothing like trying to blend in
- 29:29in Ohio with Arizona plates, right?
- 29:33So dumb. So dumb.
- 29:39Let's see Mmm's face. And stills a sense of eerie fear
- 29:46in me here. We're we're going to we're going
- 29:47to do it one more time. Ready.
- 29:50Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:51I don't like him. I don't like him, Dandelion
- 29:57says. He needs to pay for destroying
- 29:58the lifelong pain and grief he caused not only the children,
- 30:02but all of the family members and dear friends.
- 30:04Their lives are forever changed. How heart wrenching indeed.
- 30:09Indeed. Dogs discussions.
- 30:12Why would she go back alone if she was threatened?
- 30:15And is that what it said? Let me just go back to this one
- 30:17more time. Maybe it wasn't a threat.
- 30:23It it just she was upset about something involving her
- 30:26ex-husband is what is what it said.
- 30:31I, I she probably didn't feel threatened if she was alone.
- 30:36Yeah. So Monique left him in early
- 30:372016. So 10 years, 10 years.
- 30:41Thanks for getting that with me. Let's see.
- 30:46Nancy Lane says I'm so with you on the stupidity.
- 30:49This guy is a surgeon. Yeah.
- 30:51It's just so dumb, Sherry D says.
- 30:54I want to believe if most saw him on the Ring camera, Spencer
- 30:57would have known. I feel like they would have
- 30:59called Columbus PDI wonder. I wonder if, you know, this is
- 31:05one of those moments where we just need to remind ourselves,
- 31:08guys, we just need to remind ourselves that when and and I
- 31:13think that this is only about 100% of the time, man on women
- 31:18violence. But it could be the other way
- 31:20around. I guess we need to remember that
- 31:26if somebody, if somebody makes a threat of violence against you,
- 31:32believe them. Believe it.
- 31:36And I'm not saying Monique didn't.
- 31:37I'm not, I'm not passing any blame on her at all.
- 31:41No, what I'm saying is for the rest of us who are looking at
- 31:46this case for the purpose of learning something, let's just
- 31:52let that sink in that if somebody makes a threat against
- 31:56you, believe them. And that means taking steps to
- 32:01protect yourself, which could include talking to law
- 32:05enforcement. It probably should include that.
- 32:10That's. Yeah.
- 32:14So I want to believe, says Sherry D, If most saw him on the
- 32:17Ring camera, Spencer would have known.
- 32:19The thing about the way this was written is it's it's a, it's a
- 32:25third person thing, right? An identifiable friend asked
- 32:30Spencer why Monique left the game.
- 32:31He told them she was upset about something He may have known.
- 32:40He probably did know, but didn't maybe feel it necessary to tell
- 32:46the friend exactly what what she was upset about.
- 32:52Yeah, great comment, Tina, says Gavin.
- 32:57This case reminds me of the Betty Broderick case.
- 33:00Also a very old movie called Daddy's Gone a Hunting.
- 33:03My mom and dad took me with them to the movies, not knowing how
- 33:06traumatic it was. I never forgot Daddy's Gone a
- 33:10Hunting. Uh oh, I now I need to look this
- 33:13up. 1969 starring Carol White, Paul Burke Scott Highlands title
- 33:30comes from the lullaby Bye Bye bunting, a novelization of the
- 33:33film. This is the first OK, daddy's
- 33:38gone a hunting. It's it's actually a creepy name
- 33:42and a creepy poster. But that might be something that
- 33:45I watch. I love old movies.
- 33:47Thank you for that, Ashley says. Did he intend to kill them on
- 33:52the 6th? Possibly.
- 33:55Maybe they were out of town, though.
- 33:59I got to figure that. I mean, if he was a stalker,
- 34:07which I think he was, he probably knew they were out of
- 34:11town. Maybe it was a, it was a casing
- 34:13kind of situation where he simply wanted to check if if he
- 34:17could get in the house or whatever.
- 34:19Maybe it was something like that, Mooney says.
- 34:25He reminds me of that guy Gareth Purse House.
- 34:28Purse House who killed Amy Harwick, his ex-girlfriend.
- 34:32OK, hold on, hold on. They've broken up 10 years
- 34:36before he did it. Yeah, Jenny saying I'm really
- 34:41doing well at the Comic Relief tonight.
- 34:43That's funny, Sherry. I I do wonder if something
- 34:48snapped back in 2016. They dated for a time, got
- 34:51engaged and married, yet the marriage didn't last long.
- 34:55Yeah, I I wonder about that, too.
- 35:00I mean, human relationships are complex, right?
- 35:06We are complex creatures. I, I, they dated for a while, I
- 35:12think, I mean, I don't think it was like this super long time,
- 35:15but and it's funny how like I joke that Kimberly and I knew
- 35:21each other grand total of like 3 1/2 hours before we were
- 35:24married. It that's, that's a bit of an
- 35:26exaggeration from the day that we met.
- 35:31Well, I should say from the day that we remember meeting,
- 35:35because people tell us that we were introduced before, but the
- 35:38day we met to the day we were married was 5 1/2 months.
- 35:43And and it's been it's it's worked out terrifically for me.
- 35:50It's funny how, but yeah, I mean, you there could be people
- 35:54that put on a charade, right? Put on a full facade.
- 35:58I almost said Sherrod putting together charade and facade.
- 36:01Not trying to sound fancy, but they put on a charade, and then
- 36:06one. Once they feel like they've got
- 36:08that partner locked down, they become a different person.
- 36:12Yeah. Grateful says this is a
- 36:15dangerous, dangerous man. Talk about a narcissistic grudge
- 36:18holder. Yeah, and you're right.
- 36:20She didn't go back to the house. She went back to the hotel.
- 36:24Scotch's mom. There are a lot of highly
- 36:26intelligent people who don't have a lick of common sense.
- 36:30Indeed. I tell the story of a a friend
- 36:34of mine growing up that I mean, he was a straight A student.
- 36:37I think he graduated in the top ten of the class.
- 36:40But if you told him a joke, he would laugh and he'd go, Wait,
- 36:45what? It didn't.
- 36:48Yeah. He just didn't have that kind
- 36:51of. And it's not like when I was
- 36:53151617 years old, I was all that witty.
- 36:57He just didn't. He just didn't have a didn't
- 37:01have a grasp of humor. So, yeah, Tina says When I was
- 37:07in an abusive relationship, for which I'm sorry for you, Tina,
- 37:09and I'm glad that you got out. I never or I hope you did you.
- 37:13You're talking about it in the past tense, she continues.
- 37:16I never called the cops. My family and people in the
- 37:19public did. Good for them.
- 37:21Good for them. Yeah, let's see.
- 37:26I wonder why they would continue to be at the home or not tell
- 37:31the police. I I'm curious if that if it's
- 37:34going to come out that there were some, some I guess reports
- 37:42filed. I don't know.
- 37:45Second Beach Gal. This does have the Criminal
- 37:47Minds kind of plot building. It really does.
- 37:50Let's see. We got a couple more minutes.
- 37:54Cherish Brittany. You're right.
- 37:56This is like some kind of award women winning crime movie.
- 37:59Yeah, it's horrible. Detroit 313 says can't wait to
- 38:05see what comes of the digital forensics, IE his phone.
- 38:08Indeed. Me too.
- 38:11Emmy says my husband and me were dating for three years long
- 38:15distance before we got engaged and married.
- 38:17Yeah, it's different for everybody, right.
- 38:18And I hope that you 2 are happy little little kiddos.
- 38:23Ms. Bree, I wonder if DV and mental health issues were
- 38:27prevalent with his biological parents.
- 38:32Mary Kessler, will you please repeat your phrase if, Oh yes,
- 38:36this is Gavin's Iron Law of criminal mastermindery.
- 38:40The Iron Law goes like this. Maybe we can call it Gavin's
- 38:45Razor. It would awesome.
- 38:48It would be awesome to have a razor named after me.
- 38:51It goes like this. If you think you have what it
- 38:53takes to be a criminal mastermind, that is evidence in
- 38:57and of itself that you do not have what it takes to be a
- 38:59criminal mastermind. Yep, that is that's Gavin's
- 39:04razor, My Iron Law autumn, says Gavin.
- 39:09I was with my ex three months when I married him.
- 39:11A few months later all went bad. I stayed for two years.
- 39:16Yeah. So maybe did he change or did he
- 39:20have a facade or was he in some kind of charade?
- 39:27Yeah. Hey, listen, Courtney Herron,
- 39:30Gavin. Classic Utah style relationship
- 39:32with you and your wife. Same with my husband and I.
- 39:34Where are you from? Well, I was raised in California
- 39:40and my wife is Californian, but I myself was indeed born in the
- 39:45Beehive State. Yes and and yes to what you're
- 39:52saying. That is exactly yes.
- 39:57Sherry D Gavin July 5th, 21, Wedding video published 12/22.
- 40:03McKeon, Bumble July 5th, 23 First surgery.
- 40:07Which is part of one of two malpractice cases.
- 40:11June 7th, 2024, second future malpractice case 782025 Condo
- 40:18for sale. Thanks for that timeline.
- 40:20Thank you. That was awesome.
- 40:25Fourth opinion, Gavin, this may be off topic.
- 40:27Well, we never go off topic here.
- 40:30Fourth opinion. We never, never go off topic.
- 40:35Oh, Javi, Javi, Javi. What you doing there, pal?
- 40:41OK, this may be off topic, but it's mind blowing that this man
- 40:45operated on people all while having this intense rage.
- 40:49Gives great meaning to two masks.
- 40:51Great comment. Wendy says we bought house after
- 40:55two years. Got married at five years.
- 40:57House deal went OK, so I married him.
- 40:59Married 14 years. I'm lucky.
- 41:01You're blessed. That's awesome.
- 41:03Glad you guys are happy. Happy kiddos.
- 41:06That's what we got so far. Now I, I think because it's the
- 41:09state of Ohio, we are going to get, we're going to get more out
- 41:15of this. I, I'm very confident in it and
- 41:18hopefully we'll be able to get our hands on that.
- 41:21And, and I will share that with you.
- 41:23And again, when we talk about this case once more, it will be
- 41:27tomorrow if all goes well, after I have my conversation with
- 41:32Brian Bennett and, and I will be bringing you that conversation.
- 41:37So with that, let's go ahead and move on to three questions,
- 41:40shall we? How in the three question
- 41:50segment, guys, what do we do? Well, we answer 3 questions.
- 41:54I answer them and I ask you to answer them in the comments
- 41:57because it's kind of fun to see what you guys think and what
- 42:00your experiences are. You can e-mail me your three
- 42:04questions to three questions at gavinfish.com.
- 42:07Actually, they can be 9 questions.
- 42:09They could be 100 questions. It could be one question.
- 42:11Just please don't make a half a question.
- 42:13All right, full sentences are good and then I will answer
- 42:18three of them at a time. Now yesterday was a was a day
- 42:22where I got many questions. So if you want to send in more
- 42:28questions, it might be a few days before I get to them.
- 42:32But because we've got a queue now, we've got a queue forming.
- 42:36But yeah, there are no rules. Nothing's off limits, nothing's
- 42:40off the table. You can ask me anything you want
- 42:42and I will answer what is question number one?
- 42:45Question number one is did you experience migraines or other
- 42:49negative feelings when you quit drinking soda?
- 42:51This is in regards to my recent, it's only about 5 months that
- 42:56I've been doing this journey to be a more healthy Gavin said
- 43:01goodbye to well I said I'm going to soon say goodbye to you fat
- 43:07Gavin last August and and I've been working on it ever since.
- 43:11One of the things that was a habit of mine, maybe even an
- 43:17addiction of mine was full sugary fully leaded fizzy
- 43:22drinks. I love me the Pepsi Cola.
- 43:25I just love it and am addicted to it and I just went cold
- 43:30Turkey and I went from drinking probably 232 ounce fountain
- 43:38drinks a day to 0 fountain drinks a day overnight.
- 43:46Now did I experience migraines or other negative feelings?
- 43:50I did not experience migraines or headaches, but I will point
- 43:55out that I didn't just quit drinking soda.
- 43:59I made a very big life change. One of the major things that I
- 44:04did is I started drinking a lot of water.
- 44:09Now it's not like I didn't go crazy, but I may.
- 44:12At the time that I was drinking soda, I may have had maybe 1216
- 44:17ounces of just water in a day maybe.
- 44:21And now my goal is 70 oz. And I usually get there.
- 44:26So that's roughly, it's a little bit more than half a gallon.
- 44:32So I made that change. So I was hydrated for the first
- 44:36time in memory. I was like fully hydrated and,
- 44:42and, and a healthy way. I wasn't, I'm not overdoing it,
- 44:45right? I'm, I'm following advice, not,
- 44:49not just drinking tons of water. I don't want like water toxicity
- 44:52or anything like that. You do it as a healthy level,
- 44:55but for the first time, probably for 30 years, I'm a hydrated
- 45:01boy. That's number one.
- 45:03Number two, I changed my diet, big change in my diet.
- 45:09Now for me it was about calorie deficit.
- 45:13And what I found was it was very easy to eat a low calorie diet
- 45:19without being hungry. If I ate, if I prepared and ate
- 45:24Whole Foods, that meant you know nothing in a bag, nothing in a
- 45:29can, you know nothing in nothing in like you guys know what I
- 45:36mean, a box packaging. So I, I think I was probably
- 45:40eating dude every single day. Every day I was, I was, I would
- 45:45go to my local stab and grab and I would get the soda.
- 45:50I would get like a slim Jim, which is like a meat stick.
- 45:56And I would get a bag of Ruffles sour cream and cheese potato
- 46:00chips, which by the way, are still my favorite thing in the
- 46:02world, But I haven't touched them in five months.
- 46:05And I'm, I'm looking forward to getting back to them in
- 46:07moderation when I am through with my weight loss journey and
- 46:11I'm in my healthy maintenance part of my life.
- 46:17But I, I would do that every day.
- 46:18So I was eating a bag of chips every single day.
- 46:21So many calories, so many carbohydrates.
- 46:25Sometimes I would grab a pack of doughnuts in addition to that
- 46:30and I would eat that and then in the afternoon go back for
- 46:32another soda. So I was very, very unhealthy.
- 46:35So when I went to OK, now I'm eating vegetables that I am
- 46:39buying raw and I am preparing myself and you know, and good,
- 46:46good fibrous stuff. And then, you know, for my
- 46:50carbohydrates, they're not simple carbs.
- 46:52They're brown rice and they're, you know, they're skin on
- 46:57potatoes cooked properly baked and roasted instead of fried.
- 47:02That's kind of stuff. So there was such a huge change
- 47:05in my life that I didn't experience any withdrawals
- 47:10beyond just the kind of or any symptoms beyond just like I
- 47:15really wish I could have that, which is the thing that I wanted
- 47:19to fight against anyway. So yeah, that is that's a long
- 47:23winded answer to your question there.
- 47:25I did not get headaches. I did not get migraines.
- 47:27I did not get negative feelings. If anything, I just felt like I
- 47:33felt empowered. I felt like, hey, look what I'm
- 47:35doing here that I've never done before.
- 47:38And each day that I had a successful day and I could look
- 47:41back and say that was an amazing day that gave me motivation for
- 47:47the next day. And it still does.
- 47:49Like today, for example, I what what happens with my body is as
- 47:56I'm losing weight, it hits little plateaus, little mini
- 47:59plateaus and it stays there. And what I found is if I can to
- 48:05breakthrough those little plateaus.
- 48:07Right now I'm at 217 lbs. I keep bouncing up against that
- 48:11and I can't get through 217 lbs. And So what I do is I try to get
- 48:16my body into autophagy where it's, it's literally eating its
- 48:21cells right in a healthy way and not for very long.
- 48:24So how do you do that? Will you increase your fasting?
- 48:28But you but I don't want to decrease my caloric intake.
- 48:32I want a healthy caloric intake, right?
- 48:34So today I jammed all of my eating into about 3 1/2 hours,
- 48:402000 calories in 3 1/2 hours. Boy was that filling so that I
- 48:45could have a much longer fast to see if I can breakthrough.
- 48:50And tomorrow, like right now I'm hungry.
- 48:53But tomorrow when I wake up and it's time to have breakfast, I
- 48:57will feel empowered. Like look what I did, look what
- 49:00I did. And, and anyway, it's been a,
- 49:05it's been a very, very good experience for me.
- 49:09And if you are living a lifestyle now that that is
- 49:14similar to what I was living, I'm telling you this is this
- 49:18will make you feel good if you do it in a healthy way, you
- 49:22know, seek out professional advice, a nutritionist, a
- 49:26doctor, you know, get, get help. And one thing that I will say,
- 49:32though, is I never, ever wanted to get an accountability partner
- 49:39on this. I wanted to only be accountable
- 49:41to myself because I felt like if I was offloading that to
- 49:45somebody else, I wouldn't be emotionally invested.
- 49:47So I haven't done that. Yeah, that's question number
- 49:52one. Question #2 what's a story
- 49:54people ask you to tell? I kind of cheated on this one.
- 49:57Again, I asked Kimberly, I don't know.
- 50:01I'm so full of stories, and I have the same stories.
- 50:04I tell them over and over and over again.
- 50:08But I have this story where I broke both of my kneecaps at the
- 50:13same time, and I did so in the most glorious impersonation of
- 50:22Napoleon from the classic and cinematic masterpiece that was
- 50:27Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
- 50:30It was a Napoleon bowling incident where I was trained I I
- 50:35was just being a goofball and wanted my grandma to laugh and
- 50:38boy did she laugh. But I broke both kneecaps.
- 50:41That is a story that I tell a lot.
- 50:42I also tell the story a lot that I promised my Co worker I would
- 50:46never tell, which is the story of when he and I had a couple's
- 50:51massage in a a Thai massage parlor in in a Paris basement.
- 51:02Man, I love that story. Oh, I love that story.
- 51:05But yeah, those are stories that I tell.
- 51:10I've got so many guys. I've been such a stupid person,
- 51:16but I've got plenty of stories. Yeah, I don't.
- 51:22Oh, my goodness. The bowling thing.
- 51:23We were in Winnemucca, Nevada. We're in Winnemucca and we're
- 51:28having a little birthday celebration for my mom, and it
- 51:32was an inside joke. Winnemucca is just a destination
- 51:35for my family because that's where our car always broke down
- 51:38as we were traveling between Sacramento and Utah to visit
- 51:43family. We'd always breakdown in
- 51:44Winnemucca, so it's become kind of a thing.
- 51:47Anyway, we're in this little bowling alley in Winnemucca
- 51:49that's like a Quonset Hut kind of a thing, and everybody's
- 51:54having a good time. And I see my grandma is like
- 51:58into the game. She's watching everybody bowl
- 52:02and like, I'm going to I'm going to do a Napoleon, man, I did.
- 52:09I was too old to do the Napoleon.
- 52:10I broke both kneecaps and I've had knee pain ever since.
- 52:16But was it worth it? Yes, of course it was worth it.
- 52:21You should have seen her laugh. I I think she I think she was
- 52:24wearing depends that day. I she had to have been.
- 52:29OK. The last question is, what would
- 52:33your memoir be called? What would my memoir be called?
- 52:43I want to know what your memoir would be called.
- 52:46This. Kimberly gave me a couple of
- 52:49ideas. Here's the thing.
- 52:50OK, Listen, never do this to your child.
- 52:54The the world is not prepared for it.
- 52:56OK this is me complaining about my parents knowing that my
- 53:02parents are awesome but also fallible people.
- 53:05They make mistakes. Can't can't hold a grudge for it
- 53:09though these 50 plus years I have held a grudge.
- 53:13I need to take my own advice. Never ever name your child.
- 53:22You know his, his or her name. And then not call him by his
- 53:27first name. It's not cool man, that that
- 53:31poor child will have to go through life being called by
- 53:34their first name when it is not their name.
- 53:37Why not instead just switch the name so that the name that you
- 53:42want to call that child is their first name, and the name that
- 53:45you don't want to call that child is their middle name?
- 53:48Why not do that? These are the questions that
- 53:51I've been asking my mom my entire life because my name is
- 53:55not Gavin Fish. My name is John Gavin Fish.
- 54:00And from the moment they decided on that name, they called me
- 54:05Gavin. Why?
- 54:08That's just mean, man. It's mean.
- 54:12So when I asked my mom, why did you name me one thing and call
- 54:17me something else, why didn't you name me Gavin John Fish?
- 54:20She goes John Gavin Fish is just more musical John Gavin Fish.
- 54:26That's how she says it with the inflection.
- 54:29John Gavin fish Doesn't that sound musical Gavin, John fish
- 54:33That doesn't sound 'cause they wanted to name me after my
- 54:35father, but they didn't want they didn't want a junior.
- 54:38They didn't want to call me, you know, JJ or something like that.
- 54:42They wanted to call me Gavin. I think that my mom had a little
- 54:47crush on television's Captain Stubing and that's where Gavin
- 54:51came from, though she says that there was an actor named John
- 54:54Gavin, and I've looked it up. There was he was famous, but I
- 54:59think he was Captain Stubing. I mean, my dad has always had a
- 55:03full head of hair, but but Captain Stubing rocked that bald
- 55:08Dome and and in his in his his uniform, Captain looks sharp.
- 55:17Man. I think my mom had a crush on
- 55:19Captain stooping. That's where Gavin came from.
- 55:22But anyway, my memoir would be called It's just very musical by
- 55:28John Gavin Fish. That would be my memoir.
- 55:32OK, now, hopefully with your little thumbs, you guys are busy
- 55:35telling me the answers to your question to these your answers
- 55:40to these questions. And while you do so, let's check
- 55:44out some headlines. Here we go.
- 55:53True prime headlines. Wow, Okie dokie.
- 55:55Headline number one comes to us from court TVI actually saw that
- 56:00my buddy Joseph Scott Morgan was on News Nation talking about
- 56:05this. Headline says autopsy reports
- 56:08reveal brutality of murders of four University of Idaho
- 56:11students. I'm not going to get totally
- 56:12into this guys. I'm not going to read the whole
- 56:14thing for you, but but it is in the news.
- 56:18Newly unsealed autopsy reports revealed the horrific extent of
- 56:22injuries inflicted upon Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Xana
- 56:26Cronodal and Ethan Chapin Chapin I can't who were stabbed more
- 56:32than 100 times collectively in a frenzied attack at their off
- 56:36campus home in November 2022. And it's and I'm just going to
- 56:40real quick, XANA suffer the most extensive injuries.
- 56:45This is in fact overkill. This is a frenzied event, said
- 56:48Joseph Scott Morgan, forensic death investigator and host of
- 56:51body Bags podcast while appearing on court T VS closing
- 56:54closing arguments with Vinny Politan.
- 56:56She fought you don't get this contact trace blood elements on
- 57:00the feet without have that having occurred.
- 57:03So yeah, JSM got into it. Kaylee was stabbed a minimum of
- 57:1038 times, Madison suffered 28 stabbing incised wounds and
- 57:17Ethan suffered 17. So brutal, brutal.
- 57:28Next, next headline. Speaking of the great Beehive
- 57:33State, Corey Richins defense claims witness intimidation in
- 57:37her murder case. Attorneys for a Utah children's
- 57:39book author. That's one way to describe her a
- 57:41children's book author accused. Maybe what we should describe
- 57:48her as is a poisoner, a multiple attemptress at offing her
- 57:53husband. The Speaking of overkill with
- 57:57enough fentanyl to kill to take down a herd of elephants.
- 58:00Anyway, accused of poisoning her husband to death are accusing
- 58:04members of the prosecution team of witness intimidation just
- 58:08weeks before jury selection is set to begin and her high
- 58:11profile murder trial. In a motion filed at 2 days ago,
- 58:15defense attorneys for Miss Richins asked a judge to order
- 58:18prosecutors to turn over all communications with trial
- 58:21witnesses, citing messages they say include threats of arrest,
- 58:25jail time and the withdrawal of immunity.
- 58:29OK. According to the court filing,
- 58:33one witness told defense attorney she felt harassed by a
- 58:35lead detective working with the prosecution after she declined
- 58:38to be prepped for testimony and asked that questions be
- 58:41submitted in writing. The motion alleges the detective
- 58:44warned the witness she could be arrested and jailed if she did
- 58:47not cooperate. Defense attorneys described the
- 58:50condom conduct as blatant witness intimidation.
- 58:56And then it goes on the file. The filing also details
- 58:59allegations from a second witness who claimed the county
- 59:01investigator warned her or warned that previously granted
- 59:04immunity could be withdrawn if the witness refused to meet
- 59:08again with the prosecution team. The witness said they had
- 59:11already cooperated and had previously been told they had
- 59:14done nothing wrong. Very interesting.
- 59:17So, yeah, lot going on there. We shall see what the judge says
- 59:21there. If they will get over, they will
- 59:25turn over all of those communications.
- 59:27Last headline of the night. Manhattan DA wants Luigi
- 59:31Mangione's state trial to start July 1 before the federal case.
- 59:35Luigi Mangione should stand trial in state Supreme Court in
- 59:38New York starting July 1st, at least three months ahead of when
- 59:41the accused killer could stand trial in federal court, the
- 59:44Manhattan District Attorney's office said in a letter
- 59:46Wednesday. Mangione has pleaded not guilty
- 59:50to state and federal charges stemming from the assassination
- 59:52style killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in
- 59:56Manhattan December 2024. Federal Judge Margaret Garnett
- 1:00:01said Mangioni would stand trial in October if she eliminates the
- 1:00:05DP as a possible sentence, as the defense has sought.
- 1:00:08Otherwise, she said at a hearing last week, Mangioni would stand
- 1:00:12trial in January. Either way, she said.
- 1:00:14Jury selection for September 8th.
- 1:00:16The Manhattan District Attorney's Office said there are
- 1:00:18significant state interests in putting Mangioni on trial
- 1:00:21sooner. This heinous crime happened in
- 1:00:25Midtown Manhattan, one of the busiest commercial areas in this
- 1:00:28county, and spread fear and shock throughout Manhattan.
- 1:00:31NY State unquestionably has a deep interest in upholding the
- 1:00:35federal right to life, maintaining public order, and
- 1:00:41delivering justice for a murder committed in its jurisdiction,
- 1:00:44Assistant DA Joel Seidman wrote. So they're looking to start
- 1:00:50Luigi's trial in July. We will keep an eye on that to
- 1:00:55see what happens next. Let's finish out with your
- 1:01:00comments here, See what you guys are saying.
- 1:01:08Grace says I always do a shoulder shimmy to your little
- 1:01:12song. Well, whatever.
- 1:01:15Yeah, that's it's well, it's got.
- 1:01:17It's a bop, man. It's a bop.
- 1:01:19You should. It should be dancing.
- 1:01:21Scotch's mom says I have migraines.
- 1:01:24I try to limit my caffeine intake with diet doctor Pepper.
- 1:01:26I drink water too. Yeah, I know that caffeine helps
- 1:01:30with migraines. That's that is something that
- 1:01:35happens. Let's see.
- 1:01:39A psychologist on Brian Enron or maybe Enten last night says she
- 1:01:45firmly believes McKee sent MOA pic of himself outside the house
- 1:01:48next door so she knows he knows and the buying house next door
- 1:01:53threat Oh man if he did that that is just sick sick.
- 1:02:02Tina says I've been off Uber processed foods, no cakes,
- 1:02:05cookies, candies, ice cream, refined sugar, anything with
- 1:02:08more than three ingredients or ingredients I don't understand
- 1:02:12non-GMO as well 1 1/2 years strong good for you Lucille.
- 1:02:16You know, what I found is that if I just I, I only eat foods
- 1:02:22that I like too. Like life is short enough.
- 1:02:27I don't want to just eat healthy foods that I don't like.
- 1:02:31So I have been, you know, I am a child that was born in the 70s,
- 1:02:38OK. And in the 70s, if you guys will
- 1:02:40remember, everything for some reason had jello in it, right?
- 1:02:45And I grew up on the stuff and not only jello in it, but stuff
- 1:02:51in jello, you know, like the like the jello that had like
- 1:02:56grapes and shredded carrots and like weird stuff in it, right.
- 1:03:00That was, that was my upbringing.
- 1:03:03My mom used to make what she called pink salad.
- 1:03:10Pink salad. It was, it was a special thing.
- 1:03:14It was like on Thanksgiving and Christmas we had pink salad with
- 1:03:17our dinner. Pink salad was cottage cheese
- 1:03:23and cool whip in equal parts flavored with a packet of your
- 1:03:30favorite jello, you know, flavoring.
- 1:03:35And it was mixed up and then there were bits of pineapple in
- 1:03:38it. Now many of you are going gross,
- 1:03:41but I am saying I like, I'm salivating.
- 1:03:43I love pink salad. I grew up on the stuff and who
- 1:03:47wouldn't? But I can't eat Cool Whip.
- 1:03:48I can. I can definitely eat cottage
- 1:03:51cheese, especially if it's low fat or no fat.
- 1:03:54So what can I do? Well what I learned was if I got
- 1:03:59Greek yogurt and mixed it with cottage cheese and put a little
- 1:04:04sugar free gelatin in there, that it tasted like pink salad.
- 1:04:09And it was, it's so full of protein, so non fat Greek
- 1:04:13yogurt, non fat cottage cheese with a little bit of gelatin in
- 1:04:16there, sugar free. And yeah, I know that there
- 1:04:20there are sweeteners in it. But yeah, anyway, if I put that
- 1:04:25in there, it tastes almost exactly like pink salad.
- 1:04:28It's not as light and fluffy, but it tastes so good.
- 1:04:31And then but I need more fiber in my diet, so I put chia seeds
- 1:04:36in it and I love chia seeds. I like the little crunch.
- 1:04:39I love, I love the tanginess of them.
- 1:04:41So I put 36 grams of chia seeds in there.
- 1:04:44I do 36 grams of chia seeds. I do 4 grams of sugar free
- 1:04:50gelatin. I like strawberry.
- 1:04:52And then I do 200 grams of fat free cottage cheese, 200 grams
- 1:04:58of non fat Greek yogurt plain. And I mix it up and it's like my
- 1:05:02childhood. I have it for breakfast with six
- 1:05:06egg whites. And it is a huge, big filling
- 1:05:11breakfast that is low on carbs, low on fat, high on fiber, very
- 1:05:17high on protein. I think I end up at like maybe
- 1:05:20110 grams of protein just having a nice filling breakfast.
- 1:05:25So do the things that you like, make the stuff that you like.
- 1:05:30Quinoa is a great protein and I love quinoa.
- 1:05:33My wife makes it a delicious quinoa salad.
- 1:05:35It's amazing. Kimberly's known for a salad,
- 1:05:42Tina says. My boot camp Twinkie story or
- 1:05:44the time on a trip back from Puerto Rico in a private jet, I
- 1:05:48was in the copilot seat and the whole plane fell asleep,
- 1:05:51including me. And the pilot had had a nice 3
- 1:05:55axis autopilot there. I hope.
- 1:05:58Let's see. Patricia says 3 Second
- 1:06:01Chronicles, as in Goldfish Memory.
- 1:06:04OK, Mooney says my memoir would be something like Mooney's
- 1:06:09Memories. Yeah, that'd be good.
- 1:06:12My book says Just Ducky would be.
- 1:06:16This will explain a lot of that. Oh, that is funny, Tina.
- 1:06:25Stupid as I've done. Scotch's mom.
- 1:06:28My memoir would be called Thursday's Child because
- 1:06:31Thursday's child has far to go. And I was born on a Thursday.
- 1:06:37Very good. Miss Chivo's dragon.
- 1:06:40He he, he. Gavin.
- 1:06:42Gavin McLeod was also a Murray Slaughter on the Mary Tyler
- 1:06:46Moore Show, which wasn't as glamorous.
- 1:06:47It's true. Yeah.
- 1:06:49Mary Tyler Moore. Stowe.
- 1:06:50Deanna. Mine is.
- 1:06:52How am I still alive? That's funny.
- 1:06:55A couple more before we go. Let's see.
- 1:07:00Too much for any of anything ain't good for you indeed.
- 1:07:05Gavin, you should do pink salad live for US one day, OK?
- 1:07:10Ain't none of us getting out alive.
- 1:07:12That would be a good one. And Phillip says.
- 1:07:14I grew up on RCI. Love ours.
- 1:07:17In fact, RC Cola is my favorite cola by far.
- 1:07:23It's my favorite. Pepsi is my second choice, but
- 1:07:27it's hard to get RC. So a Pepsi guy but grew up on RC
- 1:07:31and Moon Pies back in the day. Tina says I was born on a Friday
- 1:07:36during happy hour. That's fine.
- 1:07:38That's awesome guys. Thanks for sticking with me to
- 1:07:41the end. I will after this, I will upload
- 1:07:45the documents up to Patreon so that you can get your hands on
- 1:07:49them if you want to, including what we went over today and the
- 1:07:55other dogs that have that have come out dogs discussions.
- 1:07:59Just last one to Gavin. I hope you're working out.
- 1:08:01Indeed I am. I am three days a week lifting
- 1:08:06and it's just a push pull legs schedule for me.
- 1:08:09And then three days away week I am walking with my knees.
- 1:08:13I really can't jog or run and I find that I just enjoy walking.
- 1:08:18So that's what I do. So six days a week.
- 1:08:20And now I had six weeks where because of a broken foot, I
- 1:08:24couldn't couldn't work out. And you know, I did upper body
- 1:08:28stuff, seated stuff, cherry yoga and stuff like that, but I
- 1:08:32couldn't really work out. But I didn't let that get me
- 1:08:37down. I just said I will just keep on
- 1:08:39with the diet portion of this. I will let my foot heal and then
- 1:08:43I'll get back to it. And it's just been in the last
- 1:08:44week that I'm back at it again. So yeah, I am.
- 1:08:47Thanks for doing that. How much longer for my hair to
- 1:08:50donate? Asks Autumn, probably August or
- 1:08:55September at this point. It's slowed down.
- 1:08:58It's the growth has slowed down. So, yeah, probably that.
- 1:09:03All right. Hey, lastly, for those of you
- 1:09:05who have stuck around to the end, remember that you can
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