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Knoxville, TN the same weekend. Man, that was a fun day
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yesterday. Yeah, dude, it was, it was
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really good. I, I, I, it kind of upsets me
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that how how good Mayhem is. From what standpoint?
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I just wish more people could do, could do it as good as they
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do it. I, I feel very good about what
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we're going to put out with Syndicate.
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But like, it's, it's, it's just very well, everything about it
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is very well done. Even the mistakes.
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Like there's not many, but the one time that the stream cut
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out, you still saved the last part.
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You got it back for the part that meant anything, right?
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And the the last 9 reps Colton's Gwynn like like we didn't get to
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we, we didn't, I thought we were going to miss like a very
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important part. And like that's the only thing
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production wise that that was like, you know, we need to fix
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this. And it's just, it's just, I just
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really appreciate like well done.
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I, I mean, just just, I, I, I don't even know how to word it,
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just the passion that they put into it.
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I wish more people could pull that off.
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I feel like every semi final, if every, every semi final should
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strive for that quality. And I know every semi final
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doesn't have the money that they have.
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Like I know they put a lot of money into it and that's a big
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deal, but I'm just, it's just very well done.
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And honestly, the workouts make it great too.
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Like like it's, it's it all feeds off of each other.
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Gwynn Gwynn might be the best workout like that I've watched
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all year. And it wasn't even like there
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were exciting races. Gwynn itself is not that
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exciting of a race at all. Like, well, that guy can go
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before that guy. That's it.
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Like. There's, I mean, you sit there
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and you're like a couple guys finish in like say 4 minutes, 5
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minutes and then two guys fail and you're like.
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We're all. Gonna sit here but like it's
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exciting the whole time there's. Like can they do it?
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Can they hold on? Like, you know, from freaking
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Christian Colin Brander and Heat 1 to to Austin in the last heat
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of the guys, like every single heat there was some kind of
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drama. You know what I mean?
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Olivia Kurstadter you just assume is going to put the top
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time out whenever she does 314 or whatever.
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I thought sub three would be borderline impossible, but she
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would have been the one to do it if they were Paige Rogers.
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Like good grief. I if and I know some people are
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just like, you know, uniquely good at holding on to touch and
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go versus singles, right? It serves different purposes.
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And Jeff didn't win. And I think it's, I think it's
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beautiful that Jeff doesn't win a barbell cycling workout,
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right? Like there's just so much that
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goes into what made that event fun.
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And that's a programming deal. Like, you know what I mean?
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Like I, I know Dave loves to say this is not a, this is not a
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anything against Dave, but Dave just say it's not about the
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workouts. Like the athletes make the
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races, they make the workouts fun.
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It's not necessarily about the workouts.
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I think this was completely the workout because there weren't
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races to be had. You know, Abby and Paige were
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racing, but they're in the second.
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He like like there weren't races at all.
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Austin waited. He waited.
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I actually think Austin tried to be smart.
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I do. I I like it's like he let Jeff
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go. He let Roman go.
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He wasn't sucked into a race at all, and he still couldn't do
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it. Like, like, you know, like like
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it was just so. Yeah, I mean, one, one thought
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about that is I feel like 10 years ago, 12/13/14 years ago,
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barbell cycling like that was more common.
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And as everything evolved, everybody started becoming smart
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and pacing and fast singles became the way to go every time.
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And I don't know if it's just the athletes that did well do
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still practice like more touch and go than others or if it's
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just, you know, their better grip or just, you know, ended up
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being better. I don't know.
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But I just don't feel like this had been programmed 15 years
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ago. Obviously one 85125 would not
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have worked but the same thing like I I feel like athletes in
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general would have done better overall than they are now.
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Do you agree? I think you would see less fails
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like it would be at like 160, five, 115, right?
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Because there they are like, I don't even think the top end is
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that much stronger. A little bit stronger top end,
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but the field, the depth of field is so much stronger.
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Like if you don't snatch 285, you're you're probably not
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strong enough, right? And like, that's not the case
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back back, you know? No, I mean there's a dude, I
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can't remember, he was from Iceland or somewhere, he's like
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snatched like Katrison or something like that.
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Was like 225. Yeah, like, like that's, that's
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right. And that's not the case back,
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you know, let's say 8 years ago. But everybody tried to hold on
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to everything, touch and go all the time.
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There was a little bit of a pride about it.
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And it's not smart, but it is a skill like and when we like, I
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had a couple people from my gym, Duke win and they're the way you
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saw people fail. If you tried to take your time
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and pause here and pause here and then go the time under
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tension just because you feel uncomfortable, like kills you,
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kills you. And then the people who are
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like, I'm just going to hold on and go as fast as I can.
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They did better overall. They did better.
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And I know like the nine you start like pausing, but like if
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you watch Gabby, Gabby goes straight through the 12, no
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pauses. And then nine like fell apart,
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but she was still able to pull it together.
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You start doing that in the twelves.
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You basically could just pick it in the twelves.
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If they paused here or they paused here, nines weren't going
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to happen, right? Like, but people don't practice
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just, you know, from the top down to the gut like over and
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over and over again. Or let's just do 30 reps I've,
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you know, you can almost do a grace at 165 and I bet you could
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see the same result because it could be like who could hold on
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to 165 unbroken? Everybody can do one 35165.
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That's a little bit we're get, we're getting there.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, and those are the type of
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workouts that I think you could program at the games.
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Just grace at 165. It doesn't need to be 225 grace
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'cause then it would just, but something that just like can you
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do, can somebody hold it on to an unbroken and then you see all
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these people fall apart. Speaking of falling apart, Alan
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Pepper. Oh man.
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What? What kind?
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Of intro. Is that?
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I mean, could you, could you cite your, your source?
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I mean, I've got, I've got, I've got.
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Couple I've got I I don't off the top of my head, but I'm sure
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you remember sometime that you failed some type of barbell
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cycling, yeah. I don't know, barbell cycling.
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He's pretty. He's pretty decent.
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Throw a pegboard at him. I don't know about it but.
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My my mind went to ski bag 23. Oh yeah, that was that's that's,
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that's probably your worst one, quite honestly, because.
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It. Was at the last Rep.
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Yeah. And then I yeah, we don't have
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to go into mayhem. It's not what you.
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See go a 2023 ski bag. Dallan gets to the last Rep and
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fails about 13 times. Clean this bag and squat.
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It it just took me two minutes to get it back to my shoulder.
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10 no reps didn't help. Yeah, Dallan, you've been
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watching Mayhem. I have been watched, had it on
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all day yesterday, it was fun. Do you have any regrets of not
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not taking the invite and going? No, I'm excited to be in Del
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Mar. Like that's coming up quick.
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We've got some. I'm excited about those workouts
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that have. You been practicing all of them?
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I practice the sandbag one, but then the other two that came out
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last night came out right when I was leaving the gym, so.
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What? What way did you do on the
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sandbag? 150 That's my guess based on the
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time cap for most people. I think you'd be surprised, the
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thought that goes into it as far as the time caps and stuff like
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that. But I don't, I don't, I don't.
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I don't know anything though, so you know.
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Please tell me it's heavy. Not not 100.
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I, I don't know the, I don't know the weights, but I think I
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just think you would be like the way you're thinking about it.
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I don't know if it's always thought about like that.
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Fair enough, it's a reasonable thought on my end, right?
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It is. It is.
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You would think it's reasonable over there, but you know it's
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what's neither. Here I mean, I think in 45
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minutes you find out the last two workouts I think in. 45
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minutes, OK. I think so because.
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They posted them late the other day.
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We're. Actually going to reveal it on
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this channel. Oh nice, that's exciting.
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No, we don't. We don't even get that
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opportunity. We're going.
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To pull up the Instagram in 45. Minutes.
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There we go. I'm in.
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I'm in. What do you think about
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yesterday, Gwen? And then you go in and I mean,
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it's like grip, grip, grip. Yeah, I didn't realize.
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It's like I've been, I've been paying attention.
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Not like crazy close attention but I didn't realize it went
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Gwen into 60 muscle UPS into the Tostabar event.
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Like, they're pretty, pretty gnarly.
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I know there were athletes that did it in three in practice and
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had to do 4 rounds on the Totobar event.
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Like that's, that's a lot of grip.
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And, and something like Gwen, whether you failed or you
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didn't, you are at failure and it's, it's hard to come back
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from something like that. I mean, I think anybody.
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Went to repeat the nines or a huge disadvantage.
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Absolutely. Because you're already smoked
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and then you have to do it again.
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But it's just, yeah, that's a brutal back-to-back to back
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situation. Have you ever done Gwen of that
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nature? I kind of thoughts like I had a
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feeling that maybe that would be something all of them do like
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you guys posted, so I did you. Still never know.
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I don't know. Yeah, I, I would hope not after
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these workouts. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, in the DT version I don't think so, but.
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Yeah, even after, even after the sandbag came out, I was like, I
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don't think they will because it's it's just a quick sprinty.
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But we can keep, we can just keep doing those quick sprinty
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workouts. Like that's fine.
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Well, I think that's tough with going back to legends.
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I think it's tough when you have the masters and there's 16
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divisions of masters and the two elites like trying to get
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through that many heats. Yeah I did.
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I got a floor plan and it looks like they are splitting the a
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normal floor in. Half OK.
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So then the coaches go in the middle.
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Oh, interesting. I just hope.
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I hope. Syndicate like the syndicate.
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Deal. Right, Yeah.
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So it'll be like two of those. I would hope that they would do.
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If there's 20 masters athletes in each Division, I can't
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remember how many there are but I would I would hope they would
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do the men on one side and the women on the other and then run
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it like a normal 2 heat 4 heat competition where first seats go
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first, that type of thing instead of all all the masters
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or all the men going all at once.
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Because. You also can't see anyone across
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the floor because there's all the coaches in front.
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Yeah, I, I don't know. I mean, I think, yeah, I don't
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know how they'll they'll structure that.
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But Lisa having two floors definitely gives them much more
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flexibility on that. Were you surprised with how many
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fails there were at Gwynn? Because I for my I don't know
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how you don't know. I with the with the last Rep,
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there was still way more than I thought, but it's it seemed like
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they thought they could and they couldn't just on the last one.
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But there were way more fails earlier than that.
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Like even if you failed 8th or 9th Rep, get it, you went for it
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a little bit. It was you almost made the right
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call. But if you fail anywhere else,
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then you just got you just made a poor decision because you're
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on the competition floor. I think Jeff did a really good
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job, honestly. Like he knew exactly when he was
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going to pick up the bar. And if I was doing that workout,
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I would have tested it and I would have known.
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I will not pick up the bar until this point and I'll take a 6th.
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It is what it is. That's not the one to go for it
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and try to win just because you know you can.
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Do do you think in that one, I mean all the time, most of the
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time it's like, hey, better be in the last heat.
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Do you think this might be better to be in the first heat?
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So you don't even have any times in your head of like what you
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need to be. You just run your own race and
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then see how it goes. If you are unable to control
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yourself and just like stick to your game plan, then yes,
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absolutely, because then you don't have anything pushing you.
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But something like that. I'm going out there and it's
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just me and a barbell and I'm just going to do 15, I'm going
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to do 12, I'm going to do 9. I'm going to cross the finish
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line and go to the next event. Do you have you have Torres just
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standing right across from you? And yeah, you just.
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Listen. Looking for his his watch.
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Yeah. It's interesting.
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I can hear Torres and Cooper. If those people are, if those
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two are yelling in a crowd at a competition, you can pick it up.
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I can. I can hear them, but I will not
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hear anyone else. That's interesting.
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Not even Corin. She's usually just saying like,
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let's go, like I'll I'll pick that out.
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But like when when they're like yelling something like what's
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happening on the floor, that type of thing.
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Gotcha. Yeah, let's see the leaderboard.
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Let's start with the women. Paige Rogers, Emma Lawson,
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Lucinda, Lucy Campbell. There is it.
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There we go, man. You're.
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Struggling spin. It is.
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It's there we go. There we go.
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Gabby Magawa, Emily Rolf, top five.
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Jon, who are you most impressed by in this this list?
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Right here I feel like Paige is an obvious answer but the I'm
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most just just by her. Gwen specifically, like when I'm
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looking through these workouts, I don't think she's bad at that
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workout, but I wouldn't have picked her to beat Olivia in
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this workout. I'm picking her to be 5th or 6th
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and just running her race and that's the difference between 20
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points. And then she's her and Emma and
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Lucy are all kind of in a three-way tie going in the last
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day essentially. But I mean now she has a thick
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gap going into big skills. I mean, she has 65 points ahead
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of Gabby. I mean, that's what she has to
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beat, is Gabby. But I mean, I, I think she's
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going to win the competition though.
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And I mean, I think I found out later that like Angelo thought
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she would win the competition once he saw the workouts.
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Y'all. And by the way, if any of you
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make him, people are watching. Let me know when someone's going
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to kill it. Y'all always like to like keep
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it secret and then see like I told you so like let me brag on
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your people, y'all. You make it bad on yourselves
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because I mean, I can't talk good about y'all.
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It's. Because they practice the
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workouts, right? Yeah, I guess we.
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Can hey, Rich Rich Poke did that.
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Rich Poke did that. So it's a free game?
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That's fair. What's crazy, I find this very
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interesting is that Gabby essentially right now is not
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going to get a ticket to the games because of a run, and
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that's insane. Literally one of her best things
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is running. If you look at how?
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She was running. Right.
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But if you look at how she's done across the whole
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competition, she gets 5th place. That's 30 more points.
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She's tied for third with Lucy going into the next two
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workouts, right? Lucy is not the greatest on a
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handstand walk ramp and then it's a bench press race tries
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with tricep fatigue like it's not out of.
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You think Gabby picks off Lucy on the bench?
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No, no, no. I mean, I think, I think those
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three are solidified. Lucy won the bench press on at
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water. Polo, Yeah, to win it.
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So she's going to be strong on that one.
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I But I do think that if they were tied, it wouldn't be like
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Lucy's going to take her, you know what I mean?
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They'd be it'd be a race. And the only reason they're not
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is a run, which is just kind of, it's kind of wild, right?
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Yeah, for sure. I mean, is there any chance that
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anybody the top 3 is not the top three at the end of the day?
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You'd have to have a big mistake, man, Yeah.
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I feel like the big mistake workouts are kind of over too.
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I mean, the bench press 1 is the only one that you you could and
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that's just because you're not strong.
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Enough. Like everybody else, like those
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ones are always and you're you usually come out on the right
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side of these ones down where it's like a a sub 5 minute thing
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with a lunge at the end and you just kind of burn the house
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down. That's why you like you Sure,
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sure, but like you could do fine for your abilities and end up
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8th and if the person and if like so Lucy gets 8th in that
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Gabby gets first, that takes your spot.
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I'm not. I don't think that will happen,
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but if an event like that, that is where things absolutely can
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happen, just off of ability, not necessarily a mistake.
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Right, I get what you're saying. When Lucy's that person, I don't
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see that mistake right? Paige has is an amazing presser
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and I think Emma's just going to be, you know, third place all
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day, just with everything. Yeah, I think if the if today's
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workout was 2 legless rope climbs for the women.
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It'd make a difference. It'd make a difference versus
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just one plus a regular. Not in Gabby's favor, though.
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Correct. Working down the leaderboard,
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Abby Domit. Does that mean Olivia Curseder's
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done? I think as far as getting a
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spot, yeah, I do 50 points is you're on and you guys think
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you're making it up on on that's. 10 spots, yeah, 55
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points per spot. Yeah, 10 spots.
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I don't see Lucy giving that up to her.
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No, I, I think it would have to be again.
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I don't, I don't see Emma dropping that much.
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I don't see Paige drop. Like there's just you just don't
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have that ability to take a 10th place finish I think in this
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field and have a chance of qualifying.
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Haley Adams. Lucy's a little bit of a
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disappointment, I would say. As far as the Lucy Mcgonagall,
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we're just poking at people. Emily Rolfe, I thought she would
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do well and she's doing well. I think she will drop a little
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bit today. Haley's exactly what I thought
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she would be. The double under workouts won't
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drop her, but I've. Heard that the double unders
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that the jump rope it's not your own.
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I've heard it's the RX smart gear buff rope.
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That's what I've heard. The buff rope, that's not going
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to feel too different if I'm just by.
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Standardized. How do you feel about your
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beaded rope situation? Are you a good beaded rope?
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Gunproper. Yeah, I've had beaded rope for a
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long time. Can you tell everybody what the
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difference is with that versus a heavy rope versus a speed rope?
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Yeah, the so the beaded rope is like your traditional recessed
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jump rope with the little plastic beads all around it and
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it's just like a nylon rope. And then so there's no bearings,
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none of that. So it's just spinning.
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You're forcing it to spin as far.
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As difficulty though, like. OK, I got you, got you.
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I would say drag rope is the hardest, then a heavy rope and
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then the beaded rope, then the speed rope.
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The beaded rope is still pretty quick.
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It's just as as you fatigue it starts to drag a little bit more
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through the air just because it's thicker and lighter, so
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you're having a force to speed a little bit more.
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It's like a a scaled drag rope really.
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Have you ever done a a stepper ski erg?
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I have not. I only have.
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I have their stepper but I have not touched their machines.
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I keep hoping that event 5 or 6 has the step.
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They they commented something about maybe having.
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A stepper put out a reposted or. I think it's just a 20 minute
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AMRAP of steps. How high did it go?
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Gnarly you can get put some you can put some good work in on a
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stair machine. I'll for sure I I know, I know.
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It's good. It's good for training.
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I'm not sure it'd be great in a competition, but there you go.
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Yeah, A. 100 pistols, 100 floors climbed, and that's the workout.
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I'm sure enough money though. We'll see one.
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We'll see one on event 11 time. Kyra Milligan disappointed John.
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Yeah, but I do think these next two events she'll crush.
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She ends up like 7th place because of.
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It I don't think she'll crush this first one.
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Oh, dude, I do. I do.
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I know you guys. Yeah, I know you all are all
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like, dude, she sucks at the ramp.
23:20
She was tied for second place going into that event in Crash
23:25
and then she went to failure in the last round.
23:28
And syndicate and syndicate. No, no, I'm, I'm talking about
23:31
Syndicate. I'm not talking about the crash.
23:32
I'm talking about Syndicate. And she did, she went to failure
23:35
and it was really bad and she failed, right.
23:38
It's I think, I don't think Austin Hatfield is bad at touch
23:42
and go cleaning jerks, but he went to failure.
23:45
If you don't go to failure, you still do good.
23:48
She went to failure in the very last one.
23:50
She's one of the best legless rope climbers in the field and
23:53
then she's the front squats aren't gonna be anything like
23:56
she just plays this smart. She'll get 5th place easy in
24:00
this workout. I really do think that she's not
24:03
bad at handstand walk ramping. She just went to failure and
24:06
failed over and over and over again.
24:08
It's just it happens, OK? I know who won't do poorly is
24:13
Reese. Reese Littlewood.
24:15
Yeah, dude, I'm excited to watch Reese.
24:16
I I'd be interested how aggressive she is at this
24:20
barbell. Super doable, but heavier for
24:24
her than most of the rest. But she's it will be it'll be
24:29
exciting to see if she takes this out as hot as she does.
24:31
She did at the workouts at crash.
24:33
I'll put it like that. Yeah, Liz Wishart, Hattie Candio
24:36
and Christine Collenbrander down there at the bottom.
24:39
A little surprised by Hattie so far down but.
24:44
Dude, Christine, man, you didn't talk about consistency.
24:50
Oh my God. There we go.
24:56
Yeah, 19th, 20th, 16th and 20th. It's all right.
25:03
I think she just likes to complete.
25:04
The Rebecca Fusale posted something yesterday about last
25:09
year not not finishing a single workout and she got to hit the
25:12
buzzer 3 times this weekend so. Dude, she's been great.
25:16
She's been great. That's cool and.
25:17
She's a last minute addition. Like she wasn't prepping for
25:20
this, she was preparing for like, Syndicate.
25:22
OK, got. This Yeah.
25:24
So she, just like last week, started getting into it.
25:27
Yeah, just a little tune up competition.
25:30
The I do think I I was interested that the the sandbag
25:36
workout, I thought the squats would play more of a role than
25:41
they did 'cause the the. Bag was 125.
25:44
For the women and all the little gymnastic girls killed it.
25:48
I I just didn't, I thought there would be a little bit more of a
25:50
mix and there was still the, the gymnastics girls that took, took
25:55
the top spots over the girls who were better squatters and I
25:59
didn't, I was surprised by that. You think the people breaking
26:02
squat on the last round 10/10/10 should have just gone 1515 from
26:06
the beginning and then maybe held on?
26:09
I think it's easier to say in hindsight, but yeah.
26:14
I mean, they broke it. I mean, it was they've had to
26:16
walk with it. So I'm sure they just just
26:18
having to force the 10/10/10. You just, yeah, you kind of get
26:21
lured into that. I think if they had just three
26:24
spots and just 30 squats, people would do a lot more unbroken
26:27
than they did, yeah. That'll be one thing with the
26:30
shorter floor, specifically on the overhead squat at Legends,
26:35
is I don't think the bar will be moving and I think we'll be
26:38
doing like 25 feet out and back on the hand stain lock.
26:41
Like the floor. Floors can determine people's
26:44
strategies a lot of the time. Sometimes it's nice, sometimes
26:47
it sucks. Maybe they should.
26:50
Require a pirouette for you guys.
26:52
That's kind of what I thought they would do, but we'll see.
26:56
It's 80 foot sections, right? 5050 foot sections 20 like a 25
27:01
a turn around or. 25 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:04
Because the rest of it's pretty super doable.
27:06
It's just a workout, right? I think that would be a cool.
27:10
Little place. I don't.
27:11
I don't foresee that being the case, but I don't.
27:15
Yeah. I just don't see it on the men's
27:16
side. Jeff Adler, Roman Kranikov,
27:18
Colton Mertens. Almost exactly how you had it
27:21
predicted, John. At least Roman and Jeff were
27:24
switched, though. Victor Hoffer tied for tied for
27:28
third. Austin Hatfield, 40 points.
27:32
Yeah, guys, Victor's the one to watch here.
27:34
I feel like people aren't talking about Victor and they're
27:37
like just oh, look at Colton. Colton's so awesome and like, he
27:40
is, he is. He is awesome guys, but.
27:43
Victor is going to smash this next.
27:45
One Victor. Victor is going to be really
27:48
good at this next one and then. It's I think he wins it.
27:51
Can he, do you think he'll beat Austin in this one?
27:53
I kind of think Austin will be very aggressive at this one.
27:57
I think Victor has a crazy squat that no one really acknowledges,
28:01
especially in the front squat, based on the videos I've seen on
28:04
Instagram. And I don't think that's going
28:06
to bother him and that he's way faster on his hands.
28:11
Yeah, the rope's not going to do anything.
28:12
It's a 13 1/2 foot rope like it always is.
28:14
A semi finals, two leg lifts. He's going to lie through that.
28:18
And then just the amount of time on your hands I think is the
28:23
probably the largest portion of work in terms of time.
28:26
Now in saying in saying that, let's say he gets first or
28:29
second, OK, I think that's pretty.
28:32
I agree. I agree with you.
28:34
I think, I think Victor could come out hot though.
28:38
And then about round 4 slowed down a little bit and Austin
28:41
hawk him at the end. I don't put that out of the.
28:43
Possibility, potentially, yeah, it'll be those top two, top 2
28:47
for those guys. Because Austin has to swing for
28:49
it right now. This is the thing.
28:51
He has to be aggressive and then just aerobic capacity.
28:53
He is fitter than Victor. That's the only reason why I
28:57
said. That he'll be there too.
28:59
Absolutely Victor can win this, so don't.
29:02
I'm not saying that he he can't the in saying that if Colton
29:08
gets 5th there. Is.
29:11
I think Colton will be pumped if he gets 5th. 1520 point lead for
29:17
Victor. And he's going.
29:19
I've been hearing, he's talking about how much he loves bench
29:22
press and lunging. That's what I've been hearing
29:25
out of me. Again.
29:27
Again, though, that is a workout that. 5 seconds.
29:30
Can be 5 spots that like Colton, I don't know, a workout where
29:36
Colton there was a lunge to finish and he won.
29:40
It's always, it's always you big guys that win the lunge, the
29:43
one. Just covering.
29:44
Distance, I don't, I don't think it's going to take too much
29:47
time. I mean, I think it's, I know,
29:48
but. If you lunge at the same time,
29:50
if you lunge at the same time, though, Colton's going to lose,
29:53
is what I'm saying. He needs to be ahead of
29:55
everybody. No, I agree.
29:57
I think, I think Colton and Austin on the bench press will
30:01
be faster. Colt I mean I I know Colton's
30:03
double unders are some of the fastest.
30:05
Not how far is the lunch? 100 feet.
30:09
OK, yeah, like you could. You can make up 7 or 8 seconds
30:15
probably. Yeah, I think that's. 4 on
30:16
Colton on the lunch I think. It's down and back twice I think
30:18
is what they'll do. So I'm.
30:21
Just with turn around 2. That it's going to be.
30:24
I'm just saying it's going to be Victor's to lose going into the
30:29
last event and I do think Colton will be very good at the last
30:35
event. I don't, I think, I think Victor
30:39
could potentially be first place overall going into the final.
30:44
No. 20 points. He'll be second for sure.
30:48
OK, If Victor wins, Austin takes. 2nd. 2nd.
30:52
Roman takes third. You think Roman or Jeff on this
30:55
one? So I mean Jeff, Jeff would have
30:59
to be 5th for them to be tied and then and then Jeff would be
31:04
ahead because of placements. You think Saxon?
31:07
Can do well. Yeah, yeah, Sax is gonna be good
31:10
at this one, but I'd like to pick him to beat.
31:13
Jeff is tough. Jeff would have to be 6th and
31:17
Victor would win for Victor to be first.
31:19
Place, I think 6th is possible. I think it's not out of the.
31:23
I don't think it's out of the realm, I think.
31:25
He'll definitely, he'll definitely be second, I think.
31:29
Yeah, I think he beats Roman, which means he's now in second.
31:32
He's going to beat Colton. Dude, Jeff's not bad at any of
31:35
this, man, no. I don't think a 6th place finish
31:38
is bad. That would be his worst finish.
31:42
I think he's he stays 4th or 5th.
31:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think a bad event for him
31:47
is. There's not enough guys.
31:48
The worst workout's fifth, and I don't I would not call the
31:51
beginning of the competition for this to be his worst workout.
31:55
Like at the games he could have a 6th or maybe a 7th.
31:59
There's not enough guys here or that's a half and I think.
32:02
You need the James Jason Downs in this.
32:06
I mean, Enrico Zanoni should be good at this.
32:09
He's not as fit as those guys. He's been winning the first heat
32:12
all day. It's 6 rounds.
32:14
Yeah, it's a lot like it's more. It's more than people think
32:18
about the round. Like it's not just so it's a,
32:22
it's a longer. Grind, yeah.
32:25
Quinn Robinson Tyler put the jinx on him last night or
32:28
yesterday before the the. Have you kept up with this,
32:33
Dallin? Anytime Tyler says somebody's
32:36
going to be bad, they are always bad and it and he doesn't he
32:40
doesn't like just pick bad people like.
32:42
It's not like a consistent thing.
32:44
It's just like. But yeah, yeah, just when he
32:46
gets a feeling it is it is the most accurate thing in CrossFit.
32:51
Like I, I'm convinced when he says something like that, I'm
32:54
like, God, well, they're going to do bad now.
32:56
I need to send him some gifts. Listen, he can't pick winners to
33:01
save his life. He can't pick who's going to do
33:04
good, ever. But if he.
33:06
Says this person's gonna bomb. They are guaranteed to bomb.
33:12
That's amazing. Like there was when y'all ran
33:15
the mile, the mile for time. We were trying to guess Danny
33:19
Spiegel's mile time and he said like 648 or something like that
33:25
or like 715, doesn't matter. He said a time and we're like,
33:28
no, she'll be faster than that man.
33:30
Like I run faster than that. Like she's not gonna like that's
33:33
way too slow. It was to the second Oh, my job.
33:37
He he called it exactly like she craw it like I'm I'm saying when
33:43
it comes to doing bad. And it's like the fact that he
33:47
got it to a second. Imagine she finished last and so
33:50
she's not pushing there at the end.
33:53
And then he nails it with like a with a coast in.
33:57
I don't think it's because he's like, smart.
33:59
I just think, dude, like he's just, if he says it, it's gonna
34:03
happen. No, Tyler's the smartest guy
34:07
ever. Speaking Speaking of Danny
34:08
Spiegel, she made her Gladiator to debut on Friday, if you
34:11
haven't watched that on Amazon Prime.
34:14
That's good for her. I'm sure she's happy.
34:17
Callum Clements I feel like has to be the the surprise after
34:21
starting 19th and walking over the hill to the finish line, the
34:25
1st, 11th and a third moves up to 7th place overall.
34:29
Yeah, this, this next event, he'll go back down to the first
34:32
seat and then and then he'll probably do it in the last of
34:34
it. Yeah, he's he is strong.
34:38
The ghost of Alex Vigno in 10th place.
34:42
That's surprising. I feel like he could probably
34:45
just get middle of the pack when he's 50.
34:50
Very true. Tiago Lucas is not going to
34:52
qualify out of here. He can go out to the Far East,
34:55
throw down and try to beat Max Krieg out there.
34:59
I'm pulling for Max Krieg man, I want him to make the games at a
35:02
Far East so badly. Down.
35:04
Did you consider going somewhere like Africa just to mop up?
35:07
On everybody? No.
35:10
I figured I'd get my where I was going out quick and if people
35:14
wanted to come fight me for it, they could.
35:15
Or they could go travel somewhere far.
35:17
Just do a. Just do a like a safari vacation
35:20
and. Legends is Legends is 2.
35:23
Yeah. So who's who's your big
35:25
competition tutor and James? Yeah.
35:28
And then Roman, Justin Bale, Justin Bale, and Roman is
35:31
probably going to Bale. Justin would have made that fun.
35:34
I feel like you guys are just going to.
35:37
Yeah, but it's like, why would the three of us go to the
35:42
competition 2 spots? Like I that's why I was.
35:47
Like, I get it, I get it, I get it.
35:49
But and it's like, man, let's just, let's fight in July
35:54
instead. Did you guys, did you guys know
35:56
that you were going to sign up for the same one?
35:59
Or was it like, I signed up and then it was like, oh, OK, yeah.
36:02
We talked about it a little bit and like James was back and
36:05
forth between Legends and Norcal and then that made us.
36:12
Justin pulling out made his decision easy.
36:16
Do you do you like this season format of being able to pick and
36:18
choose and have multiple attempts?
36:23
There's I think there's pros and cons from an athlete perspective
36:27
are everything, everything riding on one weekend to get to
36:32
the biggest weekend of the year where that's where we make all
36:35
our money. That's that's what we train for.
36:38
It's not a situation like Jason, like that's nice as an athlete
36:43
following as a fan, a little tougher and then as a
36:47
competition organizer. So that can be trading.
36:51
Yeah. So.
36:53
Now OK, so if it hyped up, if it hyped I agree completely.
36:58
But if it hyped up this portion of the season and because the
37:03
reason why regionals were so great, it's because Sam Briggs
37:07
didn't make the games in 2014. Catherine didn't make the games
37:11
in 2014, right? Like there's a heartbreak right?
37:16
You get you get some random who's on the come up that takes
37:21
a spot from some great. And then and then there's,
37:25
there's, there's, there's, there's so much on the line and
37:29
you. Have and.
37:30
You have but people, you pick your favorites like that because
37:33
I feel like it gives more feelings, 'cause you see the
37:37
heartbreak and triumph and clutchness, right?
37:40
You see that and then they don't go to the games, right?
37:45
And then they have a whole year to train.
37:47
But Dell wants to go to the games.
37:48
And and yeah, it's the same. It's the same thing.
37:50
It's the same thing with Gwen you.
37:52
Should be good enough that like, right, You're, you're, you're
37:55
going to make it. You know what I mean?
37:56
Like you, you're not worried about it.
37:58
It's the same thing with Gwen, though, from like, even I'm I'm
38:03
a fan watching this weekend. Awesome.
38:05
I'm an athlete. I don't really care to see that
38:08
in the competition. Like, I mean, think about, I
38:11
mean Austin could lose out and not make the game.
38:13
This was the only opportunity he had because of a failed Rep on
38:17
the last Rep of Quinn. Exactly so same same idea.
38:21
Probably the one of the most exciting events that we've
38:23
watched in a long long. Time.
38:25
Because of the heartbreak No, I, I'm, I'm agreeing with you for
38:28
sure People loved it. It's going to be one of the most
38:31
watched events, most talked about events for sure.
38:35
And if I get that, if I get that workout program like I'm not
38:38
going to think twice about it, I'm going to go do it and
38:40
execute and get it done. But already cleaning jerks for
38:44
time at 185 is way more calm in the corrals if that makes.
38:50
Sense also way more predictable you know where everybody's going
38:52
to be it's. Not like that's what I'm.
38:55
Saying I think you guys should be on edge.
38:57
You're freaking. You're our version of
38:59
gladiators. Like that's.
39:01
Why? We'll talk about fitness.
39:03
You want to talk about fitness privilege like you, you should
39:07
get. That because.
39:10
Because you could not make the games at any moment.
39:14
Yeah, you see it. Like I think you guys need way
39:17
more on the line. That's fair.
39:21
Yeah, and I think people would love the sport a lot, like the
39:23
sport would grow because of it. And it's not even we don't even
39:27
have to do regionals like everybody wants where everybody
39:30
does the same workouts but you get 1 semi final.
39:34
Make your pick. They ought to go back to but.
39:37
You think about if Legends was 4 spots instead of two, you feel
39:41
pretty comfortable no matter what, right?
39:43
Right. So are you saying that's what
39:44
it? Would be if there's no online.
39:46
OK, so I was just about to say, like these semifinals need four
39:51
or five spots. I think the ones that you're
39:53
given 3 to, yeah, those are four or five spots.
39:56
I think Africa should still be 1.
39:58
I think Far East should still be 1.
40:00
And like I. Yeah, but if you if you gave Far
40:01
East and Africa three spots, you'd have people from.
40:04
Sure, you'd have more people go. I mean, I think you have more
40:06
people go no matter what. If it's only one.
40:09
Yeah, 1. Time before like the with
40:12
regionals, the weak regionals you couldn't travel to them.
40:17
No, I think you make it where you can go wherever you want,
40:20
but you have you have 1 semi final, that's it.
40:24
And then but you guys know what spots you have ahead of time,
40:27
you can plan accordingly the way you guys kind of did.
40:30
And the group big group message. And if you get, if you get 4th
40:35
and legends is 3 and it's Tudor James and freaking Nick Matthew,
40:42
like that's who goes and you got beat by Nick Matthew, you
40:45
shouldn't go. Yeah.
40:48
That's on me. You know what I mean?
40:49
Like, it's not like if you were hurt, then you pick a later one.
40:54
Yeah, like it's, it's like I, I just think it would bring so
40:57
much more. It would be so much more fun.
40:59
I, I think it would be way, way, way more fun.
41:02
There's more spots so. It's not as dramatic.
41:04
As you think, at least for like the top ten guys, but those 11
41:08
through 20, it's the. World, it's the world.
41:11
Do you think it gets more exciting as the season goes on?
41:14
Because let's say, let's say Victor takes the third spot.
41:18
Now you have two North American men, Colton and Austin, and now
41:22
they're picking between Norcal and Syndicate.
41:25
We've already got Ty Jason, because.
41:28
Then I just think like, OK, you just do it until you make it.
41:31
You're still going to like online.
41:32
You'll make it probably no matter what.
41:34
If you don't if. You don't make it probably.
41:37
I mean again. Online.
41:38
Online's scary, dude. I.
41:40
I do. I hear you.
41:41
Online is scary. As fans, nobody cares.
41:44
Right, right. I get what you're saying.
41:47
For you I'd be So what if OK, you shouldn't.
41:50
Get 3 spots dude, like three shots.
41:52
Happy, happy medium, happy medium.
41:55
Drop the online, give a few more spots.
41:58
You could do 2 and then but if but if but if Syndicate ends up
42:03
with Jason tie Austin and Colton fighting for two or three spots
42:10
and there's no online to mix the back half.
42:14
The semifinal season exciting. I I think that'd be a good
42:16
compromise. If we have to compromise, we
42:19
don't have to. In this situation you can have
42:21
it all. We don't get to.
42:21
We don't get to decide. I mean, yeah, I still don't
42:26
think. I still think it should.
42:26
Just be still garbage, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I still think it
42:29
should be one shot and go stupid.
42:30
You want to bring if you want to bring the drama that brought
42:34
every that everybody loved, right?
42:36
And I'm not talking about a dense update drama.
42:38
I'm talking about actual heartbreak, CrossFit tears,
42:43
triumph, drama. Like it's one.
42:46
It's one and done, man. Fukowski crying because for
42:50
handstand push ups when he was first placed entire time and
42:53
then the 5th event he gets 8th in handstand push ups and now he
42:58
doesn't go to the Games. That's what brings people in.
43:01
That's what makes people love Fukowski, right?
43:04
And then when he finally does make it, he's 4th at the Games
43:08
because he actually is that fit. It was just really hard to get
43:11
there. Or Josh and then coming back and
43:14
winning Murph. Yeah, for sure.
43:16
All right. We got to.
43:17
We got to wrap this up. Hold on, hold on, hold on I'll
43:21
I'll I got you. I know you have a hard out and
43:24
then I know y'all are out of it, but the for the people who don't
43:27
make it. What?
43:29
What do you got now? WFP.
43:32
You got your WFP minor league. Yeah.
43:35
That's what you got. The people that don't make it,
43:37
you got your WFP there right for you.
43:39
You see how easy that was, Dallon?
43:41
They're probably gonna make they're gonna go make more money
43:45
in WFP too. That's not it's not the end.
43:48
It's not a terrible consolation prize.
43:50
Like I care about the athletes. Go ahead, spin.
43:53
All right, all right, Your top three.
43:55
Who are you gonna pick John on the men's side at?
43:58
The end of the road. Dude, I.
44:01
Think I'm still going to say Roman wins completely because I
44:11
just want my picks to be right. Jeff second, dude, I think
44:17
you're right. I think I no, I don't want to.
44:20
I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to heart pick
44:22
Colton. But man, Victor, Victor will be
44:25
in the driver's seat come the last event.
44:27
So yeah, that's what I'll I'll rock with.
44:30
Down what you got. Going Jeff, he's going to hold
44:34
on. It'll be tight.
44:35
It's going to be 5 points. Jeff Roman and Big V Big Victor.
44:41
OK y'all. Don't like Colton?
44:43
That's why. But that's I don't, I don't not
44:46
like Colton. I try to like him.
44:48
He pushes away. The harder you, the harder you
44:50
grasp for him, the harder he pushes back.
44:52
Yeah, after this, he's going to be best friends with him.
44:55
I also picked Colton, so I really just want my picks to be
44:58
right, that's all. That's what I'm I'm basing.
45:00
It off of I'm going to say I think Roman pulls it off over
45:05
Jeff and then I'll be Victor in the third spot.
45:10
I just I I unfortunately, I think unless there's something
45:12
crazy that happens in the final event where a few seconds let's
45:16
Colton come back. I think he has to come back in
45:18
the final event and get some help from Victor.
45:22
My dream scenario is what you said.
45:24
Spin. Jeff gets 6th, Victor wins.
45:27
Victor wins the whole competition.
45:30
Roman. Gets Roman, gets second, Jeff
45:33
has a little bit of a meltdown in the lunge, and then Jeff ends
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up 4th place and Colton's third. That's that's that'd be the
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dream scenario. Jeff did it in WFP.
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This is true. It was a different different
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type of lunge, but it did happen.
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All right, guys, it. When does that start?
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The live stream at Mayhem starts in about an hour and then at
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1:00 Eastern, Event 5 will start.
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It's fast. It's only going to be like 3
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hours of coverage. So I think the the podium is at
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2:42 Central time. So I mean it's less than three
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hours of coverage. So make sure you go check that
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out. It looks like Savannah's live.
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If you want to go, follow that for the next hour and then we
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will see you guys later. I apologize to absolutely
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nobody.