Latest / Float: The Anxiety Podcast with Dr John Eaton PhD / Why Do We Feel Anxious For No Reason?
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- 0:01If you have chronic anxiety you might know that jittery feeling in the morning,
- 0:06the one where you surfaced from sleep and the anxiety is already there waiting
- 0:12for you like it woke up before you did,
- 0:16Nothing happened overnight and yet your nerves are chittery,
- 0:21your chest is tight and your mind has already started out a stream of wires,
- 0:26before you lift your head off the pillow.
- 0:29If that's familiar, this episode is for you. I want to talk about why anxiety
- 0:34shows out like this with no obvious reason for it and what's actually going
- 0:40on in your brain when it does.
- 0:54Welcome back to Float, I'm Dr. John Eaton,
- 0:58And I want to start with something personal Because I don't think you should
- 1:02have to take my word for any of this Without knowing I've lived through it myself,
- 1:08I'm thirty odd years into clinical practice now so This doesn't happen too much
- 1:13to me these days But it certainly did in my twenties,
- 1:18I remember one summer in London just before university when a friend who'd lent
- 1:23me his flat announced he was moving back in.
- 1:27I had about a week to find somewhere else on a student ground in London. Not easy.
- 1:33For a few days it really looked like I might end up with nowhere to go.
- 1:37In the end I found a room through the university notice board just in time and
- 1:42moved in with a lot of relief.
- 1:45Here's the thing though. The jitters didn't stop when the problem was solved.
- 1:50Every morning for days afterwards they came back followed by a long list of
- 1:55trivial words would I fit him would the wind go up was some new disaster about to happen,
- 2:03and none of that did happen and yet that morning anxiety faded only very slowly.
- 2:11Now if that sounds at all familiar, you'll probably also recognize something I call alarm jumping.
- 2:19This is where an anxious charge about one thing, an abrupt email with your heart
- 2:23skipping a beat, a bill you forgot to pay, jumps to something else entirely within seconds.
- 2:30The worry about the email jump will worry about your heart, jump into another
- 2:35worry about whether the electricity getting cut off.
- 2:38So, you end up anxious about three different things And still your mind keeps jumping to more wires,
- 2:46Let me tell you about a client of mine I'll call her Tanya,
- 2:50She came to me describing exactly this problem Why anxiety is there for no apparent reason,
- 2:57Every morning a low constant hum of dread With no obvious loss Her job was fine,
- 3:04her marriage was low care her finances were in her words boring in a good way,
- 3:10yet she was still waking up at half past nine every morning with her heart going
- 3:16like she'd just run five miles,
- 3:19what she wanted from me understandably was an explanation because if you feel
- 3:24like that the obvious conclusion is that something must be seriously wrong with you.
- 3:30And that particular move is usually where people go wrong.
- 3:34So let's slow down and have a look at why. Here's the first thing I want you
- 3:40to take from this episode.
- 3:42Anxiety is a brain-generated state.
- 3:45It's produced automatically whenever your brain compares something happening
- 3:51right now or the night before to some troublesome experience,
- 3:56often an outdated memory, and decides to release the alarm.
- 4:01And that alarm is nearly always exaggerated.
- 4:04What that means is, the anxiety has nothing to do with you as a person.
- 4:10It's not evidence that you're flawed.
- 4:12It's not evidence that you're broken, or that you've somehow lost the ability to cope.
- 4:19It's a sign that your brain is overreacting to uncertainty.
- 4:23But here's where it gets deeper, the moment you start believing the anxiety
- 4:29says something about you, rather than about an overactive alarm system,
- 4:35that's when the hole opens up.
- 4:37Two things follow, first you react, with horror, with resistance,
- 4:43with a nurse to fix it or make it go away, and your brain reads that reaction
- 4:48as confirmation of threat,
- 4:51so if If you're reacting like there's a real threat, well, there must be a real threat.
- 4:57So it turns up the alarm further.
- 5:00The second thing that happens is shame. Associated with fear of what the alarm
- 5:05means about you as a person, tangled up with the idea that it's all your thought,
- 5:10and you really ought to be doing better.
- 5:13That combination, the resistance, plus the shame, is what actually feeds the loop.
- 5:20Not the original spike of anxiety which might have passed on its own within
- 5:24a few minutes It's the story about the anxiety that keeps it going.
- 5:30Let me explain what's happening mechanically. And I'll keep this simple because
- 5:36technical language might obscure the point rather than illuminating it. And the point is this.
- 5:43The anxiety is being created by your misfiring brain, not by you.
- 5:49Your brain runs on something called predictive processing. Instead of passively
- 5:53observing events, it's actively generating predictions about what's going to happen next.
- 6:00Then checking what actually happens against the prediction. Most of the time
- 6:04events match the prediction and the alarm doesn't go off, which is why you don't
- 6:09notice this process 98% all the time.
- 6:13But when something doesn't match, you get a shock of attention.
- 6:18That shock comes from what I call in my book, Float, the threat detector.
- 6:24The primitive part of the brain whose entire job is to shout first and let everyone
- 6:29else work out what the fuss was all about later.
- 6:33Two more systems getting involved from there on. The analyst makes sense of
- 6:37the alarm after the fact, gathering evidence, running through scenarios, looking for causes.
- 6:44The storyteller takes whatever the analyst comes up with and turns the audience
- 6:48to a story, usually a catastrophic one, where it's going.
- 6:55Between the three of them, they can turn a routine setback into a full-blown
- 7:00crisis before you finish your first morning cup of tea.
- 7:05And here's why this tends to get worse rather than better. Neuroplasticity.
- 7:10Your brain strengthens whichever pathway it uses most.
- 7:14So every time a threat detects a fire, that circuit gets a little faster,
- 7:20a little more automatic, and over time it builds something close to a superhighway,
- 7:26needing almost no provocation to send you hurtling down it.
- 7:31And that's a big part of what's behind alarm jumping. Once the pathway is well
- 7:36established, almost anything gets rooted onto it,
- 7:40which is why the email of the ache in your side and the passing thought about
- 7:44the boiler can all end up feeling like exactly the same emergency.
- 7:50Now, I want to be clear about one thing. Understanding this mechanism only tells
- 7:56you what's producing the anxiety.
- 7:58It doesn't on its own change anything.
- 8:01Knowing you have a threat detector doesn't switch it off any more than knowing
- 8:06how a smoke alarm works stops it going off when you make toast.
- 8:11Later in this podcast, I will talk about some changes you can make.
- 8:16So, here's the question that actually brings most people with anxiety into therapy.
- 8:22Not necessarily why does this happen, but why does it keep happening,
- 8:28day after day, when nothing's actually wrong now?
- 8:33The answer lies in one word, hypervigilance. When your threat detector's been
- 8:38running hot for a while, Stressful patch at work, health scare, a bad week.
- 8:45It doesn't just reset once those difficulties are over. It stays sensitized.
- 8:52It's threshold for firing drops.
- 8:54So even very small cues that are not normally enough to trigger it end up firing the alarm.
- 9:02That could be a delayed phone call, someone's expression on the train in the
- 9:07morning, or the quality of silence in your house at six in the morning.
- 9:12And that's also why the anxiety doesn't politely switch off once the facts improve.
- 9:18Last week's crisis might be resolved, the bills pay, work settled,
- 9:23and the alarm keeps sounding anyway because the system was never listening to the facts.
- 9:29It was listening for pattern matches to thread and the sensitivity setting turned up far too high.
- 9:36You can't argue a hyper-vigilant amygdala back down with evidence,
- 9:41which is exactly why trying to is so frustrating.
- 9:45Now here's the part I think is most important, and it's the part almost nobody
- 9:50expects to hear from a therapist.
- 9:53The final reason your anxiety won't switch off might be you.
- 9:57Not because you're doing anything wrong exactly, but because of what happens,
- 10:02once you make the anxiety personal.
- 10:05The natural next move is to fight it, to resist it, to fix it.
- 10:12And that resistance confirms something to your brain.
- 10:16There are now two threats instead of one, the original trigger and the anxiety about the anxiety.
- 10:24This is true even of coping tools you might have learned in therapy.
- 10:29A breathing exercise done hoping it will suppress the anxious feeling tends to amplify it.
- 10:35Same with arguing the thoughts away or distracting yourself with your phone.
- 10:41Every time you check back in to see if the anxiety has gone there you bring
- 10:46your attention right back to it and the brain notices,
- 10:50and it further concludes there really are two threats the original one and your
- 10:55attempt to defeat the alarm,
- 10:58so what can you do instead.
- 11:01The float approach starts from a genuinely different premise.
- 11:05The anxious state doesn't need fixing, it doesn't need resisting,
- 11:10it doesn't need defeating, because it was never a verdict on you to begin with.
- 11:15It's a brain-generated state produced by systems that are oversensitive to threat.
- 11:22What actually changes things isn't a better fight with anxiety,
- 11:27it's a shift in your relationship to it.
- 11:30Understanding what's producing it, noticing it as it arises in awareness rather
- 11:36than getting swept up inside it,
- 11:39accepting it as a passing state rather than a personal flaw, and witnessing it.
- 11:46Actually watching inside awareness, as the threat detector generates the alarm
- 11:52and the feeling that comes with it,
- 11:54the analyst generates the worry and the storyteller creates a prediction about
- 11:59the catastrophic thing that's going to happen next.
- 12:02And you're watching the whole thing, as if you were observing a movie.
- 12:07There's a name for this in therapy, second order change.
- 12:12Instead of trying to fix the problem by pushing back against it at first order
- 12:17change you do the opposite and you stay with it in awareness,
- 12:22you let it be whatever your brain wants it to be and you watch those thoughts,
- 12:27feelings and urges to correct pass through,
- 12:31and when you do that you're sending a covert signal to your brain,
- 12:36whatever you think you're doing right now is of no interest to me being sure you float past him.
- 12:45I know how that might sound, it sounds too simple, does it really work?
- 12:52In my experience, personal and 30 odd years of clinical, it's the only thing
- 12:58that does in the long run.
- 13:00Not for the specific anxiety that has an obvious cause and clears up on its
- 13:05own, but for the anxiety that keeps coming back, for no reason you can find.
- 13:12And when you just allow it to be there and float by it, You're giving it a chance to dissolve.
- 13:19And that is the way out.
- 13:33If any of that landed for you, there's a companion article on the blog at reversethinking.co.uk,
- 13:41that goes into more detail.
- 13:43And the full approach is laid out properly in my book, Float,
- 13:48Exiting the Anxiety Stress Loop.
- 13:52Thanks for listening, and see you next week.