Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Attract More Customers: The Power of Direct Response Copy and Strategic Planning
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show today.
- 0:03I'm not in an audio booth, so I expect to hear some
- 0:05interruptions in the background. Now today what I want us to look
- 0:08at is how to sell your, you know, leftover items, you know,
- 0:12bits and bobs and things that you have here and there hanging
- 0:15around the house. Now, why do I want to do that
- 0:17today? It's because recently me and my
- 0:20step sis or rather my step sister has this pair of
- 0:24headphones that she has or just lying around the house, you
- 0:27know, doing nothing basically and that she wanted to sell.
- 0:31Now the reason why she got them in the first place was because
- 0:34she wanted to use them for I think podcasting or maybe
- 0:38editing videos, I can't remember.
- 0:40But eventually it was not her jam and so she didn't end up
- 0:44using it. So she tried to use it like two
- 0:47or three times and then just put it back in the box.
- 0:49That's all. She reached out to me
- 0:50eventually. Now this is what I did.
- 0:53I requested a photo from her so that I would share on my
- 0:56WhatsApp status because I realised that, you know, she
- 0:59told me I have this thing for sale.
- 1:01But then I reach out to one or two people and I send a message.
- 1:04It's not going to do much because lots of people don't
- 1:06realise that when it comes to trying to sell something, the
- 1:09level of effort and the level of, I put it, the level of
- 1:14effort or level of work that is required to sell something is
- 1:18actually a whole lot more than most people think.
- 1:21So the average person thinks you have something to sell or you're
- 1:24about to get into business. You just, you know, tell one or
- 1:27two people and then things will take off.
- 1:28And that's not the case now because this is what I do for a
- 1:31living, helping people fix sales problems.
- 1:34I knew that trying to sell these headphones is not just a matter
- 1:37of OK, she has told me, me, man, let me just tell one or two of
- 1:40my friends and then somebody would be interested and that
- 1:42would be it. So I requested a photo from her
- 1:46so that I could share on WhatsApp status because I know
- 1:49that they're a bunch of you. So are you listening to the
- 1:51podcast right now who do that sort of thing?
- 1:54You know, you have downtime or you're just curious, you open
- 1:57your phone, you start scrolling through people's WhatsApp
- 1:59status. And that is how I've been
- 2:00promoting the podcast primarily over the last five years,
- 2:04WhatsApp status and, and on LinkedIn.
- 2:08And that's how I've been able to get the show to over close to
- 2:1230,000 downloads so far just by using those two avenues.
- 2:17But then for the podcast, you know, I've been doing that every
- 2:23single day, more or less. I mean, of course, you know, one
- 2:25or two days you're on the road and so you miss things here and
- 2:27there. But I've been doing this almost
- 2:29on a daily basis. So I knew that OK, she has
- 2:32headphones she wants to sell. It's pretty much going to be the
- 2:35same thing. So took the photo, was going to
- 2:37share it on WhatsApp status. And then I asked her for the
- 2:39specifications because, you know, I don't know thing about
- 2:43headphones, but because I'm not a tech heavy kind of guy.
- 2:48In fact, those of you who've been listening to this podcast
- 2:50for the length of time, you know that I'm recording this thing on
- 2:53my phone. So I'm not doing any fancy gish
- 2:56bound, you know, with microphone, connect to sound
- 3:01card, connect to computer, connect to this, connect to
- 3:03that. So I'm pretty laid back when it
- 3:05comes to tech. I just pick up my phone, I make
- 3:08this recording. So, but anyway, I know that you
- 3:11gear heads, you know people who like your gear, you know, you
- 3:13like your phones, you like your cameras, you like your
- 3:15computers. You would like to know, like on
- 3:17the computer, you guys would like to know, you know, how
- 3:19many, how many RAM, how many mega this, how many that, how
- 3:24many that you know all those sorts of things.
- 3:26So I collected the specs for the for the microphone and I
- 3:31figured, OK, I'm good to go. I now created 5 direct response
- 3:37pieces because if I'm going to sell these things on WhatsApp,
- 3:41it's not just not just enough for me to put up a picture and
- 3:44say interested, you know, ping me.
- 3:46You need to put up something compelling and the kind of thing
- 3:49you need to put up needs to be direct response, direct response
- 3:54copy. Now, what does direct response
- 3:57copy mean? Direct response copy means any
- 4:00kind of texts or any kind of words that you're putting out
- 4:04that the intention is you want somebody to take action now,
- 4:08now, now. So the kind of copy that says
- 4:11buy from me now, or if you're curious, send me your contact
- 4:14details, you know, those sorts of things.
- 4:15You want somebody to take action now, now, now.
- 4:18That is direct response. The other kinds of messaging
- 4:23that people put out there, that is not necessarily direct
- 4:25response. Like this podcast.
- 4:27This podcast is not direct response.
- 4:29I'm putting out the episodes. Hopefully you find one or two
- 4:32things interesting. Hopefully you come back
- 4:35tomorrow, you listen again, maybe you listen for a couple of
- 4:39months. After a while, you think, you
- 4:41know what, this guy sounds legit.
- 4:43Let me just give him a call. Let's see what he can do for my
- 4:45business. So this is different.
- 4:48It's a content marketing play. The podcast is a content
- 4:50marketing play. It's a relationship building
- 4:53play because I'm building a relationship with you.
- 4:55You have me plugged into your earholes right now.
- 4:57This is relationship building. Let's see, what else?
- 5:03Yeah, it's more of a relationship as content
- 5:06marketing is relationship building.
- 5:08There's a whole bunch of other stuff.
- 5:11But this is not direct response. Direct response would be buy
- 5:15now, buy now, buy now, contact me now, give me your phone
- 5:19number, give me your phone number, give me your e-mail
- 5:21address. You know, do this, do this, do
- 5:23that. So since what we're trying to do
- 5:25is to sell the headphones, it's a relatively simple product.
- 5:29I forgot direct response would be the best.
- 5:32Trying to sell consultancy services on the other hand, that
- 5:35might not be a good approach, which is the reason why I don't
- 5:38take that approach of you know, buy from me now, buy from me
- 5:40now. Book a consulting session, book
- 5:42consulting session. So that's why I don't do that.
- 5:45So I created 5 direct response pieces to show them the WhatsApp
- 5:50status. Then let's see.
- 5:53OK, now what happened next? By the time I put up the 1st
- 5:55post pop, I did that at night. I didn't expect anything of it,
- 6:00but I woke up the next day. I had about four or five
- 6:02responses. Ultimately I didn't get any
- 6:04buyer and one person made a counter offer for 35, I'm sorry,
- 6:0838K instead of the full 55 K that my step sister was asking
- 6:13for. So I then updated my step sister
- 6:16because I won't lie, I was surprised by the response that I
- 6:19put this thing up at night. In the morning there was 4
- 6:21responses, four or five responses.
- 6:24So an updated that. OK, look this is what is
- 6:26happening though. So this is what you should do.
- 6:28This is what I prepared. This is what I intend to do.
- 6:32You start doing the same thing on your own channel as well.
- 6:36Let's see what's up. Let's see what happens.
- 6:37As she says, cool, What happened next?
- 6:42She forgot and she didn't do it. But then eventually I reminded
- 6:48her today in the morning and she was like, oh, I forgot, sorry,
- 6:53let me do it sharp, sharp. In fact, I'm doing it now and
- 6:57then me reminding her that's around 8 something in the
- 7:00morning and then I was going about my business and then
- 7:04roughly around 1 something in the afternoon feels like a thing
- 7:08has been sold. I was like, wow, OK, cool.
- 7:10How much full price and I was really, really happy for her.
- 7:14Now the lesson, and that's the reason why I'm making the
- 7:17podcast episode is this, too many people are getting into
- 7:20business or too many people are trying to sell, but they don't
- 7:24have a game plan that is backed by effort and execution.
- 7:29So like my baby sees, I have this earphone, I want to sell
- 7:33this thing, but there is no game plan that is backed by effort.
- 7:40And a certain level of execution and intention is not enough to
- 7:46sell whatever it is that you want to sell, whether it's your
- 7:49earphones or your old dress or, you know, maybe Popsy travelled
- 7:56abroad and he bought maybe TM Lewin shirt for you, but the
- 8:00shirt was too small. You want to sell it.
- 8:02Or maybe you you're starting a business, you want to sell
- 8:07household cleaning products. A lot of people have the
- 8:10intention. You tell one or two people, but
- 8:13that's not enough to get your business going because what you
- 8:19need is you need some sort of a game plan.
- 8:22You need to back this thing up by effort.
- 8:24You need to back this thing up with execution.
- 8:27So she told me in conversation that this is what she wanted to
- 8:35do, and it's not bad. You understand the business or
- 8:39you're trying to sell someone. Yeah, tell one or two people,
- 8:42but this is what is really required of you.
- 8:44You actually need to come up with a list and then come up
- 8:47with messaging. And I agree on the cadence.
- 8:51Cadence just means the, how will I put it, the timetable or how
- 8:56you're going to be doing this thing.
- 8:57The reason why you come up with a cadence is so that you don't
- 9:00get yourself tired because sales and selling is hard.
- 9:04To be talking to people every day is hard.
- 9:07The level of rejection is going to be high at certain times.
- 9:10It's going to be demoralizing. So you come up with a cadence to
- 9:14protect yourself. So for me, for instance, OK, now
- 9:22let's ignore what I wanted to do because I really told you what I
- 9:24wanted to do. So in her own case, if I was
- 9:25her, what I would have done when I decided to sell the headphone
- 9:28was I would have told myself self, I have this headphone that
- 9:33I want to sell. What I'm going to do is I'm
- 9:37going to tell my Big Brother, apart from my Big Brother, I'm
- 9:40going to tell 10 people every day and I'm going to do it for
- 9:45five days at a stretch. So that means that this week I
- 9:48would have contacted 50 people. Let me try this thing first and
- 9:51see what happens. Let me repeat.
- 9:55If I was higher, that's what I would have done.
- 9:56I'm only telling my bro. Then I'm going to come up with a
- 9:59list of 10 other people that I'm going to tell today, 10,
- 10:03tomorrow, 10 day after 10 people every day for five days straight
- 10:07after that. I'll now take dressing.
- 10:10What worked? What didn't work?
- 10:12What do I need to change? What do I need to improve?
- 10:15And the average person isn't doing this kind of activity.
- 10:18Remember, the reason why we have a cadence is to protect
- 10:21ourselves. Because if you're going to be
- 10:25telling as many people as possible today, after a while
- 10:29the nose will just discourage you.
- 10:31But if you decide that I want to do 10 every day, once you do 10
- 10:35today while you can go and rest, 10 tomorrow while you can go and
- 10:39rest, 10 next tomorrow, you can go and rest, you can go and do
- 10:42something else. So is all is, you know to
- 10:45protect you and keep your sanity.
- 10:46So must all have a cadence. So that's what I would have done
- 10:48if I was a 10 people every day. I do for five days straight and
- 10:53see what happens. But then I would have contacted
- 10:5650 people. I bet you there is someone
- 11:01listening to this podcast right now.
- 11:04You decided you were going to go into business in January of
- 11:082025. This is currently close to the
- 11:11end of February 2025. And I bet you in the last 1 1/2
- 11:16month you have not told up to 50 people that you're in business,
- 11:20but somehow you're thinking that business is hard.
- 11:24How won't business be hard? You decided January 1st, this is
- 11:27what I'm going to do. What date is it now?
- 11:31This is February 17th. February 17th.
- 11:33Now you haven't told up to 50 people and you're saying Kai,
- 11:37business is hard. If I had known I would not have
- 11:40resigned my job. Yes, business can be hard, but
- 11:44truth of the matter is you haven't really given it enough
- 11:48thought about what it is that is required, the level of effort
- 11:51that is required. You haven't begun to think it
- 11:53yet. At the very least by now you
- 11:59know you saying that you're going to be in business.
- 12:00You should have carried your phone, looked at your contact
- 12:02list, depending on the business you're trying to get into, and
- 12:05you should have told yourself self, I'm going to talk to 10
- 12:10people every day, five days of the week, Monday to Friday.
- 12:16Let me do this in two weeks. At the end of that, I will now
- 12:19reconsider whether The thing is working, whether The thing is
- 12:21not working. Let me see what I'm going to
- 12:22change. So that's what I'm talking about
- 12:26here. You need to come up with a game
- 12:30plan. You need to back it up with
- 12:32effort. You need to back it up with
- 12:33execution, trying to sell one thing or trying to get into
- 12:37business, trying to start your business.
- 12:39Go and talking to one or two people.
- 12:41Talk to your brother today, talk to your cousin tomorrow and talk
- 12:44to auntie next week. Maybe you talk to Deacon in
- 12:47church and maybe after that you talk to, you know, Imam on
- 12:50Friday. That does that's not really
- 12:52getting into business. No, that, that's, that's not
- 12:54enough because you'll find that January, February, March of 2025
- 12:59with that approach, you'll find that best case scenario, you've
- 13:04only told like 12 people that you're getting into business.
- 13:07You're getting into business brand new.
- 13:09You only told 12 people. And you really think that by
- 13:11telling 12 people business, you just pop off.
- 13:16It doesn't work that way. So in my step sister's case, the
- 13:22messaging that I came up with or the messaging that, yeah, the
- 13:26message I came up with basically was I came up just five
- 13:28different versions of, you know, are you interested in podcasting
- 13:31or video editing? This is a brand new XYZ.
- 13:34It's only been used twice. The accessories and the
- 13:36packaging is still intact. If you're curious, DM me or call
- 13:40me on blah blah blah. So there was just five different
- 13:43variations of that message. You know, the intro will be
- 13:45different, the language will be different, the call to action
- 13:50will be different. I created 5 because I figured,
- 13:53you know, as you send them now you see that, OK, this one's
- 13:56performing more than this one. OK, let me ditch these ones and
- 13:59let me keep to these ones that seem to be performing well.
- 14:03So that's the scope. So the reason why this is the
- 14:11recommended approach is because, well, I'm telling you that this
- 14:15is the best way to go about it is because if you do it the way
- 14:17my step sister did it, which is the way most people would do it,
- 14:20is you tell your Big Brother and your brother says, ah, no
- 14:24problem. Now I'll, I'll post and then
- 14:27maybe you tell your best friend and your best friend is like, Oh
- 14:29yeah, sure, no problem, I'll post.
- 14:33And then maybe you tell your boyfriend and your boyfriend's
- 14:34like, yeah, sure, sure, no problem, I'll post.
- 14:37But what happens is your Big Brother in my post because you
- 14:41know, he's your brother now he has your back.
- 14:43But The thing is you only post once.
- 14:46And at the end of the week you will say, ah, sister, sorry you
- 14:51I posted, but nobody in my feed is interested.
- 14:53How will somebody be interested when you only posted once?
- 15:00Now your boyfriend might be trying to impress you.
- 15:02I saw Hima, he might post, but The thing is Hima only post once
- 15:05or twice at the end of the week. He would say babe, I tried to
- 15:09but nobody was interested. How would they be interested
- 15:11when you only posted twice? When you open up WhatsApp, think
- 15:15of the number of people on the contact and then think of the
- 15:17number of statuses that are flying up and everything.
- 15:22It's possible that in a week somebody might see 500 WhatsApp
- 15:25status updates. You only posted twice.
- 15:27You think that those your twice would make an impression?
- 15:29Seriously. You really think 2 posts is
- 15:33going to make an impression? Some of you have a poor
- 15:37understanding of the level of effort that is required to sell
- 15:40something. So that's the reason why at the
- 15:46very least for me, without thinking much, I just came up
- 15:51with this simple thing. I just came up with five
- 15:54different messages and I was going to share one message a day
- 15:59and I was going to do it for one week 1st and engaged like OK,
- 16:05which of these seems to be more effective?
- 16:07The one that seems to be more effective, I would have taken
- 16:09that and made different variations of that and continue
- 16:13blasting it to my entire status viewing audience.
- 16:18So the reason why I'm saying 5 different messages because if
- 16:21you use the same message all the time, it's going to be boring as
- 16:24it's going to be ineffective the first time you do it.
- 16:27Some of like, oh, OK, and then tomorrow is the same message.
- 16:31And then after that is the same message.
- 16:33People get used to it, people get bored, it gets ineffective.
- 16:38But then if you do different messages, you're going to get to
- 16:41see what is most effective over time and then optimize the same
- 16:45thing with the pictures. It's just that, you know, I was
- 16:49not that I was being lazy, but I didn't think she would
- 16:52understand if I told her, look, this picture you sent me is OK,
- 16:55but next time take a picture, send from the back, then take a
- 16:58picture, send it from this angle, take a picture, send it
- 17:01from that angle. Give me 5 different pictures.
- 17:04Because actually that, that you know, the, the photo itself
- 17:06actually makes a difference. So it helps if you can do
- 17:09variations in the photo as well, not just variations in the copy.
- 17:14So different messages, different photos, because we're trying to
- 17:17optimize, we're trying to see what is most effective.
- 17:21So my messages, the formula was the same.
- 17:24Remember the message was, are you interested in podcasting or
- 17:28video editing? I've got this brand new XYZ.
- 17:30It's been used only twice. Accessories and packaging still
- 17:33intact. Curious.
- 17:34DM me. Full stop.
- 17:38I was addressing only specific sets of people, people who are
- 17:41interested in podcasting or video editing because that's
- 17:45what she bought it for. And of course, typically people
- 17:48who use those kind of headsets because I went to go and do some
- 17:51research. It's people who are involved in
- 17:53podcasting, video editing or telemarketing that are
- 17:56interested in those sorts of things.
- 17:58Now, funny enough, when I blasted out that first message,
- 18:01guess who responded to me the next day?
- 18:03A business owner that had worked with that I did consulting for
- 18:07in Lagos. He runs a a business that's in
- 18:13alternative energy, solar panels, that sort of thing.
- 18:18He's thinking of acquiring a bunch because he's about to
- 18:21launch Tele sales with the telemarketing team.
- 18:25Then guess who else reached out to me?
- 18:28A fellow podcaster who is thinking of trying out different
- 18:31kinds of gear. Then guess the next person who
- 18:34reached out to me, a wedding photographer who also happens to
- 18:38do some video editing. Then guess who reached out to
- 18:41me? Another person who is involved
- 18:44in making content that is training engineers.
- 18:48And who else? I can't remember.
- 18:50Well, you know, like, I don't know, kind of four to six
- 18:52people, but you can see how the more targeted your messaging is.
- 18:57You can see how it starts appealing to people.
- 19:00If I just put up the headphones and said everyone for sale DME
- 19:0355K, the response would have been somehow some of you be
- 19:08afraid that because I said I made it very specific, I said,
- 19:12are you interested in podcasting or video editing?
- 19:16I have an XYZ fairly used packaging still intact, DME if
- 19:21you're interested. Some of you would say, but if I
- 19:23say podcasting or video editing, now that is small.
- 19:27Now I have 2000 people on my phone.
- 19:31I'm trying to sell this thing. Why would I now say I'm limiting
- 19:33it just to people who are interested in podcasting and
- 19:36people who are interested in video editing?
- 19:38It's too small. Let's make the messaging broad.
- 19:41Let's make it wide. Let it capture people.
- 19:43Let it capture interest. And that is where your
- 19:45advertising starts falling flat. I've made lots of podcast
- 19:49episodes on that before. So no need to be labeled the
- 19:52point. The more targeted it is, the
- 19:54better. So it actually was a good thing
- 19:57that I narrowed down my messaging.
- 19:59Are you interested in podcasting?
- 20:01The person who is scrolling, scrolling is scrolling.
- 20:03But who's been thinking, I need to start a podcast.
- 20:05I need to start a podcast. You see that you say, ah, the
- 20:08universe is sending me a message.
- 20:10The headphones are on sale. That's how it works.
- 20:15So I know I was like, I just got entry around.
- 20:19I've lost my train of thought anyway, but bottom line.
- 20:23Different messages, different copy, different call to action,
- 20:27things like that. So the lesson I'm trying to say
- 20:30for today basically is this, if you're getting into business or
- 20:33you're trying to sell something #1 create a plan.
- 20:37This whole thing, I'm just talking to people.
- 20:38Freestyle, it's not a good idea. It is good that you talk to your
- 20:41Big Brother on the freestyle levels now.
- 20:43It's good. Those freestyle conversations,
- 20:46you know, the gas day as in do have to be there.
- 20:49Definitely. So you have to do those kind of
- 20:51things. No problem.
- 20:53You also need to come up with a plan.
- 20:56So apart from those freestyle conversations, you know, when
- 20:58you're in church, you're just not your people.
- 21:00Talking to your auntie, talking to your brother, talking to your
- 21:02cousins, you know, talking to your boyfriend, you know, those
- 21:06sorts of things. You also need a come up with a
- 21:09plan. Come up with a targeted list,
- 21:12create some messaging because the worst time to figure out
- 21:16what to say when you're trying to sell something is when you
- 21:18are actually in front of the person trying to sell the thing.
- 21:21That is the worst time to try and think of something because
- 21:26for most people, your brain will go blank.
- 21:31If you don't believe me, go ahead and try it.
- 21:34Don't come up with a sales script every single time you go
- 21:37and talk to somebody. Your brain will go blank or
- 21:39you'll be nervous on the spot, thinking, what should I say?
- 21:43What should I say, what should I say?
- 21:45And by the time you talk to two or three people, you'll be tired
- 21:48because with each person you are trying to come up with something
- 21:51on the spot, on the fly, original, creative, convincing.
- 21:55That's too much work. So when things are nice and calm
- 21:59and cool, when you're alone in your room or chilling in your
- 22:03car or sitting down in your office, you just give it some
- 22:06thought. It doesn't have to be detailed.
- 22:08Just get a sheet of paper and then just scribble down some few
- 22:10things like, OK, this is how I greet them or this is how I open
- 22:15the conversation. Or when I'm talking about the
- 22:18headphones or talking about the business, I must highlight this,
- 22:21highlight this, highlight that. So by the time you sit down, you
- 22:24sketch that kind of thing, mentally it has taken the load
- 22:29off you so that when you're in front of somebody and you guys
- 22:31are talking, the thing will just be flowing.
- 22:34The reason why it's flowing is because you took the time before
- 22:37now to sketch an outline that is guiding you.
- 22:43And you'll find that since that one is less nerve wracking and
- 22:50less taxing, you'll be able to talk to more people.
- 22:52You'll probably be able to talk to 1015 people before you get
- 22:55tired. So create a plan, come with the
- 22:59target list, create your messaging, and then most
- 23:02importantly, come up with the cadence and then execute.
- 23:07Nobody's perfect, but please, because like I told you guys in
- 23:12the earlier episode, my plan is to drop an episode every day or
- 23:19every other day, but I've been missing this past four or five
- 23:23days. So it happens, but just do your
- 23:26best. If you say you're going to be
- 23:30doing 10 people every day, try your best.
- 23:33Now, some days that you start #1 by the time you get to #8 you
- 23:37receive a call from the school that, oh, missus, so, so, so
- 23:40your child is developing a fever.
- 23:41Come and pick your child. No problem.
- 23:43Go and pick your child. At least you did 8 today.
- 23:48And some days you'll feel like, man, I am on fire.
- 23:52And you're supposed to talk to 10.
- 23:54But because you're on fire, you'll talk to 20.
- 23:56That's all right. But just come up with a cadence.
- 23:59Be executing it every single day and please let me point out one
- 24:04thing that some of you haven't quite gotten yet.
- 24:07The only thing that we can guarantee is the level of effort
- 24:10that we bring to the table. We cannot determine the
- 24:13outcomes. So for me, I came up with a plan
- 24:19and I executed it on my OK, I told you my results on the first
- 24:25day. I executed it for three days
- 24:27before my step sister tried. I gave it mine.
- 24:34I executed the way I was going to execute, but I'm not the one
- 24:37who ended up selling for her to executed on the first day and
- 24:41ended up selling in a couple of hours.
- 24:44But that's just business, that's just life.
- 24:47You're not guaranteed the result, you're only guaranteed
- 24:50the level of effort that you bring to the table.
- 24:53So bring your effort to the table and try and put the odds
- 24:59in your favour. That's just what it's all about.
- 25:04So don't let it discourage if you post day one, day 2, day
- 25:06three, nothing is happening. You agreed with yourself.
- 25:10Now look self, I'll try this for two weeks.
- 25:12If nothing works, I will sit down and I'll review, run it for
- 25:15that two weeks first, then after that, review.
- 25:20So if you're getting into business and you've only told
- 25:24your Big Brother, you've told your friends, you've told your
- 25:26classmates, there's something I've said before on the podcast.
- 25:29You haven't started yet. You have not started yet.
- 25:35What to do is everybody has a phone.
- 25:37You're listening to this podcast right now.
- 25:40Most likely you're using your phone.
- 25:42A couple of you are using your laptop.
- 25:44No, that's not a problem. Your laptop has something on it
- 25:48called, what's it called, contact list.
- 25:52If you check your e-mail account, you see their contact
- 25:54list. If you're using your phone, your
- 25:57phone has contact list. Look at contact list.
- 26:01From the contact list, you will create a list of people who
- 26:04might be interested in your product or service.
- 26:06Write these things down. Write it.
- 26:11From that list you decide that OK, these people, it's best if I
- 26:15do phone call. These people, it's best if I go
- 26:18to their house or if I go to their office.
- 26:21After that, you now sit down and come up with some messaging.
- 26:25Don't write it word for word and don't memorize it.
- 26:28If you go down, you memorize it. Everybody can tell that you've
- 26:31memorized it and then it sounds boring.
- 26:34Just do it in outline form. OK, Who are the people I'm
- 26:38trying to talk to for this set of people?
- 26:40What's the best way to greet them or what should I emphasize
- 26:43what I'm talking about? The product or you know, this
- 26:45and this and that and that. Then come up with a cadence that
- 26:49is reasonable for those people who you're going to go and visit
- 26:51them in the office. If you're based in Lagos, let's
- 26:54be real here, I don't think you can visit more than two people a
- 26:58day in Lagos because traffic is crazy.
- 27:01If you live in Abuja, on the other hand, it is possible.
- 27:04You can't even see five people a day because you can drive from
- 27:07one part of town to another part of town in 30 minutes.
- 27:10So it's possible for you to see somebody at 9:00.
- 27:13If you have a 30 minute meeting, you can see another person for
- 27:16maybe 10:30. If you add traffic, you can see
- 27:19another person for maybe 2 and you can see another person for
- 27:22maybe four. That can happen.
- 27:26You're meeting four people every day, five days of the week.
- 27:29If you're based in Lagos, don't even try it.
- 27:31It's not going to work. It's not possible.
- 27:34It's not possible at all. So be realistic here.
- 27:36So in Lagos, if the plan is to go and meet somebody in the
- 27:39office, I will say target one person a day, don't target 2.
- 27:43You give yourself a necessary BP so execute.
- 27:50Now, let me give an example because this one is real.
- 27:54I'm seeing some people who are thinking of this kind of
- 27:57business already. Now, let's say you want to be in
- 27:59the business of importing yam from Benin State.
- 28:03I'm saying important because I'm not sure how else to call it.
- 28:06You know, I live in Abuja right now, I'm from Benin State, but
- 28:10the cost of yam in Benin State right now, so in Abuja right now
- 28:14is high, very, very high. In fact, there was one time, the
- 28:18last time I tried to buy yam myself, that was in general.
- 28:21I went somewhere and then I said how much?
- 28:23The person said 4-5. I said 4, two.
- 28:27The person laughed. He said no, for that, for that
- 28:29one over there. I said, which one?
- 28:31That one that's more yam, say yes, 4-5.
- 28:33So OK, what of these healthy looking one?
- 28:35This big one said that one is 6000.
- 28:37I said yeah, for one tuber. The person said yes, and I
- 28:41removed my phone. I said I'm coming.
- 28:43I called my wife. I said babe, I'm in the market.
- 28:46This one I'm seeing, you know, my wife laughed.
- 28:48She said, yeah, that's how he sees that is OK, that that's the
- 28:52price, Say why yam? Sorry, because of that.
- 28:56Now there's some people who are trying to take advantage of the
- 28:58arbitrage because you can buy yam cheaper in Berry State and
- 29:05you know all that area, you know, Berry, NASA, bring it into
- 29:08Abuja and then make your money. So let's say you're one of those
- 29:11people. Now you're thinking of importing
- 29:14yam from Berry State to now sell again in Abuja.
- 29:17First thing to do is take your phone, open it.
- 29:20Who might be interested in buying this yam.
- 29:23Now remember when it comes to sales, sometimes it's common
- 29:26sense, sometimes it's a good guess, but it's OK.
- 29:28We start from there, we start guessing and we execute and we
- 29:32see what happens. So the guess is OK.
- 29:34People that have families that need have plenty of mouths to
- 29:37feed, those are the people who should target.
- 29:40So in that case, now you may now start looking at women in your
- 29:42in your contact list. Women who have children, maybe
- 29:45who have maybe two or three children.
- 29:49Sorry, I'm not trying to be sexist here.
- 29:50I'm just coming up with a hunch that I'm assuming if you're
- 29:52going to try and do this kind of thing, you're better off calling
- 29:56the woman on your phone rather than calling the men.
- 29:58You know, maybe the men are more concerned about other things.
- 30:00I don't know, maybe fuel or Internet or whatever, but it's
- 30:07just my guess. But anyway, The thing is, shall
- 30:10I come up with a plan? So for me, we women that have
- 30:15children and now start looking through my phone.
- 30:18Oh, OK, in case she she has five children.
- 30:20Good. And I write down in kitchen on
- 30:22my list #1 So Cordelia, Cordelia only has one child.
- 30:27Maybe not. I'll ignore Cordelia and then
- 30:29I'll go again and then I'll see. I mean, I say, oh, I mean it has
- 30:32four children. Good.
- 30:33And I write down Amina. That's how I'll be doing it.
- 30:35Just be writing it down, writing it down, writing it down.
- 30:38And then let's say you're one of these people, you're importing
- 30:41the yam. But let's say you already have a
- 30:42full time job, so you're working in Zenith Bank.
- 30:45You don't have to be realistic with yourself.
- 30:49You go to Zenith Bank 830, you work until 6:30.
- 30:53Lunch break is one hour. So now be realistic enough to
- 30:57look. You know what, with this limited
- 30:59time, I think I can only call or chat up five people every day.
- 31:03OK, no problem. So you now agree.
- 31:06OK, five people. You went through your phone, the
- 31:09least you came up with. Maybe it's 40 people.
- 31:12If you're doing 5:00 every single day, it's going to take
- 31:15you 8 days to get through that. So that's that's a week and a
- 31:19half of you Monday through Friday, last five days, then
- 31:22Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, good, that's it.
- 31:24That's a week and a half. They now come up with your
- 31:27messaging. The messaging might be something
- 31:30this simple. You know, a good afternoon
- 31:32Nikkechi long time. Have you noticed the cost of
- 31:34yams in Abuja is now becoming exorbitant?
- 31:38Of course, in case you might reply, yes.
- 31:41In fact my sister even myself about 1-2 bowl of Yammy will say
- 31:45market 5K yesterday, lucky you 5K.
- 31:50The one that I saw was 65. The guy was even telling me
- 31:527000. You guys have that conversation
- 31:54back and forth. Then the Next up, if you're
- 31:58messaging, I've got a plan to deliver yams at 2000 naira for
- 32:03one tuber so that if you have 10K, instead of buying 22 bars
- 32:10of yam, you can use that 10K to buy 5 tubers in case are you
- 32:14interested. And then you want to get she has
- 32:16to say. But The thing is you don't
- 32:19figure out this message as you are chatting with in Kichi.
- 32:22You need to have mapped out this conversation before you start
- 32:25chatting with in Kichi so that The thing is there to guide your
- 32:30conversation. And if you've decided that this
- 32:33is what you're going to do now execute it daily.
- 32:37Eventually some people will buy, lots of people will say no, but
- 32:42this is actually the level of effort that is required when
- 32:45you're starting up into business.
- 32:48Some of you will think it is enough that this idea sounds
- 32:51brilliant. And when you run into in Ketchi
- 32:54at the office, you mention it to her.
- 32:58Then maybe you mention it to two or three people in church.
- 33:02And then maybe you tell your husband that he too he should
- 33:05tell some of his colleagues. But you find that if you don't
- 33:08take the structured approach, you'll find that you start this
- 33:11your yam importing business in on January 1st.
- 33:15And then by January 30th, you'll find that maybe you're only
- 33:18told, I don't know, eight people.
- 33:21And then you now say, Kai business is hard.
- 33:25This thing is a no brainer. Why is nobody behind this yam?
- 33:31It's because you underestimated the level of effort and the
- 33:36level of activity that was required to sell this yam.
- 33:40So basically, that's just what I wanted to let you guys know for
- 33:44today. Summary, come up with a cadence,
- 33:50come up with a script, have the right level of effort that is
- 33:56required to make this thing happen.
- 33:58Or then also your messaging should be targeted.
- 34:02When you're creating your list, you should be targeted just like
- 34:05how for this yam thing, it's not a matter of opening up your
- 34:08phone and then blasting the message to all 2000 of your
- 34:11contacts. Yam for sale in Abuja, 5 tubers
- 34:15of Yam for 10,000. Sit down, it's work or sit down.
- 34:21Take the time, come up with this targeted list and then begin the
- 34:24execute on the daily. It's going to take more
- 34:28conversations than you think, but eventually some will buy,
- 34:33some people will say no. The people that say no it's OK,
- 34:35leave them. The people that buy, that's
- 34:37good. We're trying to see how we'll
- 34:39get them to buy again. So if In Ketchi buys this time,
- 34:44she said OK, let me test, let me see if this thing works.
- 34:47She forwards you 10K from that. Thank you.
- 34:50You send her five tubers. She's impressed.
- 34:53The goal is to see how In Ketchi bought 5 tubers January 1st.
- 34:58The goal is to see how you can get her to buy another 5 tubers.
- 35:05Abby No 5 tubers for a House of like four people.
- 35:09No it won't last. OK, let's say two weeks.
- 35:11So the goal is if she buys 5 tubers January 1st, the goal is
- 35:15to see how she can buy again January 14th and maybe buy again
- 35:21January 30th and then God willing February 1st.
- 35:26She also tells her sister. So that is her and her sister
- 35:29that are now sending you 10 Take care each for 55 tubers of Yum.
- 35:35So what we're looking for the no people, don't worry it happens.
- 35:39They will say no, leave them. The people that say yes, that's
- 35:42where the money is. Repeat business and referrals.
- 35:46That's where the sweet money is made.
- 35:47Anyway, been going on for close to 14 minutes.
- 35:49Let me just wrap it up. I think.
- 35:53Yeah, I think I've said it all for today anyway.
- 35:55So if you're interested in the strategy session, the business
- 35:59audit, but you have some questions, then reach out to me.
- 36:04The phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 36:12For those of you who are not Nigerian, and that's my WhatsApp
- 36:15number as well. You can also connect with me on
- 36:18LinkedIn. The name to look for is
- 36:20Tavishima Aidi. I also have this podcast
- 36:23available on YouTube in case you're one of those people who
- 36:26is watching on the web browser. You're not a podcast in person.
- 36:30You'd rather do the YouTube thing.
- 36:32Yeah, sure. Go to YouTube and subscribe.
- 36:35So thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 36:36I'll catch you guys at the next episode.