Latest / Influencer Confidential / How to Collab with Other Youtubers:Instagrammers:Tiktokers (Without It Feeling Weird) #293
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Influencer Confidential by Sidewalker Daily. My name is
- 0:04Speaker 1: Nina Zeta and I will be your host. I love
- 0:07Speaker 1: working with brands and influencers on all things business strategy.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Are you ready to learn what it takes to work
- 0:13Speaker 1: in this influencer industry and see behind the current Well,
- 0:16Speaker 1: let's jump in. Relationships you have with other creators matter
- 0:25Speaker 1: more than you think. That old expression your network is
- 0:28Speaker 1: your net worth or aligned to it could not be
- 0:31Speaker 1: farther from the truth. And what I want to talk
- 0:33Speaker 1: about in today's episode is how we can help you
- 0:35Speaker 1: collaborate with other YouTubers, other TikTokers, other podcasters. Ada. Here
- 0:40Speaker 1: is that you guys start flexing your pitching muscles, but
- 0:42Speaker 1: to use it to network and to grow with other people.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Networking with other creators is obviously so helpful in so
- 0:49Speaker 1: many ways, but it's not only just about you know,
- 0:52Speaker 1: relationships and friendships. Oftentimes, if you're a creator, you want
- 0:57Speaker 1: to be around people that are in a similar space.
- 1:00Speaker 1: And I think there's this big misconception of like competitors are, oh,
- 1:03Speaker 1: they're doing what I'm doing. Literally, competition is a mindset.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I Nina the founder of a creator community I go
- 1:11Speaker 1: to other creator communities all the time, and I'm like,
- 1:13Speaker 1: let's partner, we have similar audiences, let's do stuff right.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And whether that's like podcast swaps or email swaps or
- 1:20Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, obviously wanting to make it advantageous.
- 1:23Speaker 1: But I cannot stress the importance of meeting and networking
- 1:26Speaker 1: with other people, whether it be virtually or in real life.
- 1:29Speaker 1: What I want to dive into today is talking about
- 1:32Speaker 1: how you can collaborate with other creators in your industry,
- 1:35Speaker 1: or maybe not even in your industry, but creators that
- 1:37Speaker 1: you feel like you guys can help and meet because
- 1:39Speaker 1: it's going to eventually really help you in the long run,
- 1:42Speaker 1: not only because you're going to get you know, maybe
- 1:44Speaker 1: audience growth from it. People are going to learn about
- 1:46Speaker 1: you through this creator. You could obviously affect your bottom line,
- 1:50Speaker 1: be held accountable, friendships, all of that good stuff. Now,
- 1:53Speaker 1: how many of you listening here have a friend on
- 1:56Speaker 1: the Internet that you've never met in real life, but
- 1:58Speaker 1: you've built this like online frendch with because you guys
- 2:00Speaker 1: comment on each other's stuff, like each other's things, or
- 2:03Speaker 1: even following each other for a while. This is very,
- 2:06Speaker 1: very common in our industry, Like so many YouTubers I know,
- 2:09Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, I know that YouTuber, but they've
- 2:10Speaker 1: never actually met them in real life. Well here's the thing.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Why not take it a step further? Why not reach
- 2:16Speaker 1: out to these online friends? You know, be the one
- 2:19Speaker 1: to make the first move, set up that zoom call,
- 2:21Speaker 1: set up that virtual coffee. Sometimes when I pitch in
- 2:24Speaker 1: this way, I will literally say, in full transparency, one
- 2:28Speaker 1: of my big goals this year is just to meet
- 2:30Speaker 1: more people and network more. And I work from home
- 2:33Speaker 1: and it gets lonely. So I am looking for any
- 2:36Speaker 1: and all opportunity to meet others. People love that. They're like,
- 2:39Speaker 1: oh my gosh, yes me too, Let's do it. Let's
- 2:41Speaker 1: get on a call, let's connect. So sometimes even leading
- 2:44Speaker 1: with transparency in that pitch that you are looking to
- 2:47Speaker 1: network and get to know people and connect is a
- 2:49Speaker 1: really great way to leave. Something that I always try
- 2:52Speaker 1: to tell creators though, when you are reaching out to
- 2:55Speaker 1: other creators or other YouTubers, is you know, it's not
- 2:57Speaker 1: only about what can you get, like what can you get? Right?
- 3:00Speaker 1: So let's just say you're a new YouTuber. If you
- 3:03Speaker 1: reach out to someone who has like millions of followers.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Why would they talk to you truly, And it's not
- 3:08Speaker 1: being mean or you know, trying to put you down
- 3:11Speaker 1: because you're a little and they're big. But what is
- 3:13Speaker 1: in it for them? How are you going to advance
- 3:15Speaker 1: the needle for them? How are you going to support them?
- 3:17Speaker 1: So it would be different if you're like, oh, hey,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I stumbled across this opportunity and I wanted to send
- 3:23Speaker 1: it to you. It's not a good fit for me
- 3:24Speaker 1: because I'm not there yet, but I thought you'd be
- 3:26Speaker 1: great for it. Like, now you're giving something, right. I
- 3:30Speaker 1: actually had a creator the other day told me they
- 3:32Speaker 1: did that technique using one of the opportunities we post
- 3:35Speaker 1: on our substack. So I post on my substack, which
- 3:39Speaker 1: is called the Paid Creator. I'll include a link below.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I post brandial opportunities and castings and things happening every day.
- 3:46Speaker 1: And this girl saw this ad there and she was
- 3:48Speaker 1: like for a pet thing. And she's like, well, I
- 3:50Speaker 1: don't even have a pet. She's like, but I wanted
- 3:52Speaker 1: it to send it to a pet creator that she
- 3:54Speaker 1: wanted to network with, and she literally sent it to them,
- 3:56Speaker 1: being like I saw this, I thought of you. I know,
- 3:58Speaker 1: we don't know each other, but I think you'd really
- 4:00Speaker 1: good fit for this campaign, that person wrote back right,
- 4:03Speaker 1: So sometimes it's also thinking like what are you giving
- 4:05Speaker 1: that person, what is it that you are offering for them,
- 4:09Speaker 1: and thinking about that when you do reach out. Oftentimes
- 4:12Speaker 1: when you think about partnering with other creators, not always,
- 4:15Speaker 1: but it usually goes networking with people that are kind
- 4:18Speaker 1: of at your level. It could be financial or it
- 4:20Speaker 1: could be experience. Right, it could be like, hey, we're
- 4:24Speaker 1: just all getting started, or we both have ten thousand followers,
- 4:27Speaker 1: you know, so it's like, Okay, we're in the same
- 4:29Speaker 1: stratosphere ish in terms of learning and growing. So I
- 4:33Speaker 1: feel like when you are starting to think about people
- 4:35Speaker 1: to reach out to again, we all want to network
- 4:37Speaker 1: with people above us, and that makes sense because we're
- 4:41Speaker 1: trying to grow and learn. But you then have to
- 4:44Speaker 1: really reflect on, like what is it that you're bringing
- 4:46Speaker 1: to the table. Maybe you can shoot content for that person,
- 4:49Speaker 1: or maybe you want to offer something in exchange, just
- 4:51Speaker 1: to have that in the back of your mind. Now,
- 4:53Speaker 1: before I share how to find creators or that you
- 4:56Speaker 1: want to reach out to, I did just want to
- 4:57Speaker 1: pause really quickly and talk about the importance of in
- 5:01Speaker 1: person networking because in my previous video I talked about
- 5:05Speaker 1: the three buckets, and I talked about the networking bucket,
- 5:07Speaker 1: the growth bucket, and the financial bucket when it comes
- 5:10Speaker 1: to pitching an outreach, and obviously today we're talking about
- 5:13Speaker 1: the networking bucket, but I did just want to briefly
- 5:16Speaker 1: note that, like, there are opportunities also in person, and
- 5:20Speaker 1: I do feel like people always forget that what I'm
- 5:23Speaker 1: going to be sharing is like how to find different creators.
- 5:25Speaker 1: But I did want to also stress that, like, if
- 5:27Speaker 1: you are reaching out to a creator in your local market,
- 5:30Speaker 1: don't feel afraid to say that you would love to
- 5:33Speaker 1: meet up for like a coffee or something of that
- 5:35Speaker 1: nature in person, because in person pitching can go such
- 5:38Speaker 1: a long way. It's like the human connection, and it
- 5:41Speaker 1: just feels so much nicer when you actually connect with people.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Even if your city has like a local chamber of commerce,
- 5:48Speaker 1: I know here where I live, our local chamber of
- 5:50Speaker 1: Commerce is always doing networking events, coffee meetups and things
- 5:53Speaker 1: of that nature. So if you're like a creator and
- 5:56Speaker 1: you want to work with brands, I would probably make
- 5:58Speaker 1: a lot of sense for you to join these sort
- 6:00Speaker 1: of chambers because then you can pitch these companies locally. Hey,
- 6:03Speaker 1: I can shoot content for you or I could do
- 6:05Speaker 1: this for you. So just something to mention. Okay, so
- 6:07Speaker 1: let's talk about how do we pitch creators that we
- 6:10Speaker 1: want to partner with. So obviously step one in any
- 6:13Speaker 1: sort of pitch format is building your list. That's something
- 6:16Speaker 1: we talk about super in depth here at Sidewalker is
- 6:19Speaker 1: list building. And when you list build, you really want
- 6:22Speaker 1: to think about categories that you're putting each pitch in. So,
- 6:26Speaker 1: for example, like let's just say one of your categories
- 6:29Speaker 1: is like local creators, Okay, I want to reach out
- 6:31Speaker 1: to twenty creators in the Miami market. That's one category.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Then maybe you're like, okay, I want to reach out
- 6:37Speaker 1: to twenty creators in my niche that are at the
- 6:40Speaker 1: same level as me, And that's something that you want
- 6:43Speaker 1: to like put or connect to, so you would create
- 6:45Speaker 1: that column. So building your list is obviously the first
- 6:49Speaker 1: step that you're going to have to do. And then
- 6:50Speaker 1: in terms of finding creators, you can get really scrappy.
- 6:54Speaker 1: You can literally go on Instagram and type in the
- 6:57Speaker 1: search bar you know NYC creators and see who pops up. Right,
- 7:01Speaker 1: you can go on chat shept and search who are
- 7:04Speaker 1: some of the top NYC creators in the fashion niche
- 7:08Speaker 1: that have less than fifty thousand followers? Right ask Ai
- 7:12Speaker 1: to help with the research. You can ask your audience,
- 7:14Speaker 1: you know, do a poll in your story that's like, hey, guys,
- 7:17Speaker 1: drop in some of your favorite creators. I'm looking to
- 7:20Speaker 1: do more in person networking or I'm looking to network
- 7:22Speaker 1: more and I want to meet them, like, let me
- 7:23Speaker 1: know who you guys. Recommend asking your audience to let
- 7:26Speaker 1: you know who people are, and don't forget to start
- 7:29Speaker 1: with the people already engaging with your content that you
- 7:31Speaker 1: think aren't cool or you like their content, or you
- 7:34Speaker 1: think they are someone that you would want to know
- 7:36Speaker 1: and grow with. I cannot tell you the amount of
- 7:38Speaker 1: times I've met a creator that was smaller than me
- 7:41Speaker 1: and then within a few years completely surpassed me in
- 7:44Speaker 1: terms of growth and all of that. You don't know
- 7:47Speaker 1: who's going to pop off or who's going to do big,
- 7:49Speaker 1: So don't underestimate people that are already engaging with you
- 7:52Speaker 1: and maybe that they're also starting as well. So once
- 7:55Speaker 1: you've identified your creators, like let's just say you want
- 7:57Speaker 1: into TikTok or Instagram and you put NYC creators and
- 8:00Speaker 1: you see a bunch of them, right, then you're going
- 8:02Speaker 1: to want to think to yourself, Okay, well, how am
- 8:03Speaker 1: I going to reach out to this person? Is it
- 8:05Speaker 1: on DM? I'm I going to send them an email.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I'm I going to start by warming up the lead
- 8:11Speaker 1: and maybe start engaging with them and commenting on their
- 8:13Speaker 1: stuff before I send a pitch right to try to
- 8:16Speaker 1: get them to meet with me? Do you want to
- 8:18Speaker 1: do a group meetup so it takes the stress off
- 8:21Speaker 1: and you're almost just like, hey, I'm reaching out to
- 8:22Speaker 1: local New York creators or Toronto creators. I wanted to
- 8:25Speaker 1: all of us get together and have a coffee and
- 8:27Speaker 1: do a meet and greet, like would love for you
- 8:29Speaker 1: to come join. Like now, you're the protagonist in the story.
- 8:34Speaker 1: You are literally setting the stage. You are the one
- 8:37Speaker 1: reaching out, you're the organizer, and you're all just meeting
- 8:40Speaker 1: up for a coffee. And I know something that creators
- 8:42Speaker 1: often do is make things like really big and complicated.
- 8:45Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a fifty person meetup. It
- 8:46Speaker 1: could literally just be like five Toronto YouTubers, We're all
- 8:50Speaker 1: going to meet and just chat in person. And again
- 8:53Speaker 1: it's taking that first step reaching out. People are looking
- 8:56Speaker 1: for connection. And the thing that I love about networking
- 8:59Speaker 1: pitches is it you're not asking for money, right. It's
- 9:01Speaker 1: not like a pitch that's like a brand deal pitch, right,
- 9:04Speaker 1: or even a growth pitch where it's like a little
- 9:06Speaker 1: bit more intentional. Networking pitches are more human focus or
- 9:11Speaker 1: about like connection. So you know, if you wanted to
- 9:14Speaker 1: do something in a group style, a photo walk, a
- 9:16Speaker 1: content shoot, whatever, these are really nice ways to like
- 9:21Speaker 1: kind of get that conversation going. So step three it's like, Okay,
- 9:23Speaker 1: well what do I say? And I think we talked
- 9:25Speaker 1: briefly about like making sure you're adding value or depending
- 9:28Speaker 1: on what the goal of the pitch is, but always
- 9:31Speaker 1: start by, you know, personalizing this. You don't want it
- 9:33Speaker 1: to feel copy and paste. Maybe it's complementing their work,
- 9:36Speaker 1: and explain why you're reaching out, What is the goal,
- 9:39Speaker 1: what is the m O is it? Oh, I saw
- 9:40Speaker 1: this opportunity, I thought you'd be a great fit. Or
- 9:42Speaker 1: I'm a local creator too. In transparency, I'm looking to
- 9:45Speaker 1: meet more people grow my business. I would love to connect.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I'm doing a meetup and putting a few creators or
- 9:51Speaker 1: a few YouTubers in this area together, and if it's
- 9:54Speaker 1: not local, maybe it's a Zoom call, like a happy hour,
- 9:57Speaker 1: a Zoom happy hour. Again. I know it sounds like
- 9:59Speaker 1: kind of but like take initiative, be that person to
- 10:03Speaker 1: organize and connect people because people are looking for people
- 10:07Speaker 1: to do that, right and if that could be something
- 10:09Speaker 1: you would do, that would be amazing. Now, just to
- 10:11Speaker 1: give you guys some ideas of ways that you can
- 10:13Speaker 1: collaborate with these other creators, is think about like, okay,
- 10:17Speaker 1: what are different things that you guys could do. Is
- 10:19Speaker 1: it interviewing each other, shouting them out in your next
- 10:22Speaker 1: YouTube video and telling your audience to go follow them
- 10:24Speaker 1: and they do that to you? What are the ways
- 10:26Speaker 1: you guys want to collaborate. Do you want to do
- 10:27Speaker 1: a live together? Those are really nice. Are you trying
- 10:29Speaker 1: to do like a podcast swap, an email swap, an
- 10:32Speaker 1: ig takeover swap? Or do you just want to shoot
- 10:35Speaker 1: content together and just you know, send each other opportunities
- 10:38Speaker 1: or do you want to be accountability buddies? You know,
- 10:40Speaker 1: just meeting up once a week on zoom or once
- 10:43Speaker 1: a month and chatting and holding yourself accountable or asking questions.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I used to do this with a bunch of other
- 10:49Speaker 1: course creators. We would just like get together and be like, hey,
- 10:51Speaker 1: what are your wins of the week or the month?
- 10:53Speaker 1: What do you guys need help with? And it was
- 10:55Speaker 1: just such a lovely space to connect with other people
- 10:59Speaker 1: in my zone. And I don't know, I loved it
- 11:02Speaker 1: and I think that it really helped me in many ways.
- 11:05Speaker 1: So again, having a piece of your business allocated to
- 11:08Speaker 1: that networking element is going to pay off big time
- 11:11Speaker 1: in the long run. Now, something I did want to
- 11:13Speaker 1: mention that this goes for all styles of pitching. When
- 11:16Speaker 1: you send a pitch to another creator, they are going
- 11:18Speaker 1: to go check you out. That goes without saying They're
- 11:20Speaker 1: going to look at your bio, They're going to look
- 11:21Speaker 1: at your profile, they're going to look at your website
- 11:23Speaker 1: or whatever, your email signature. So just you know, doing
- 11:27Speaker 1: that quick audit, like looking at your page and making
- 11:30Speaker 1: sure it's presentable. Because again, if you're reaching out to
- 11:32Speaker 1: someone and your I don't know, content is all out
- 11:36Speaker 1: of whack. You haven't posted on YouTube in like two years,
- 11:38Speaker 1: but you're asking to do a YouTube meetup, it feels
- 11:41Speaker 1: like scammy and fake. So I always tell creators like,
- 11:44Speaker 1: give a little love to your pages, you know, give
- 11:46Speaker 1: a glance through before you pitch, before you outreach, just
- 11:49Speaker 1: to make sure everything kind of looks good before you
- 11:51Speaker 1: start the outreach. Something that you may or may not
- 11:53Speaker 1: be interested in is joining existing communities. So if you
- 11:56Speaker 1: don't want to start your own and you want to
- 11:58Speaker 1: join an existing one, like at Sidewalk or Daily, we
- 12:00Speaker 1: have a creator community. It's called the Inner Circle. If
- 12:03Speaker 1: that's something you want to, just jump on in and
- 12:05Speaker 1: join our creator community. Meet the creators we meet every
- 12:08Speaker 1: week for live calls together. I host them. They're so
- 12:12Speaker 1: much fun and again it's a great virtual way to
- 12:14Speaker 1: make friends meet people. So if that's something you're interested in,
- 12:17Speaker 1: I will leave a link below to speak to our
- 12:20Speaker 1: success manager who can share a lot more about our
- 12:22Speaker 1: Inner Circle program and how you can join us for
- 12:25Speaker 1: that virtual creator networking that you may be craving. So
- 12:29Speaker 1: let's do some homework. I'm going to give you, guys
- 12:31Speaker 1: the assignment. I want you to pitch ten different creators,
- 12:35Speaker 1: whether they're YouTubers or podcasters, or instagrammers or TikTokers. Break
- 12:39Speaker 1: them up, maybe some local some are in your niche,
- 12:42Speaker 1: some are in your follower count zone just getting started.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I want you to start reaching out and connecting with
- 12:48Speaker 1: more people. That's your homework so you can get some
- 12:51Speaker 1: pitches out when it comes to networking and fulfill that
- 12:54Speaker 1: networking bucket which we talked about last week. Next week,
- 12:57Speaker 1: we're going to talk about pitching you to speak on
- 13:00Speaker 1: other podcasts. You as a creator, you're an expert. You've
- 13:04Speaker 1: been doing this. You are ready to start reaching out
- 13:06Speaker 1: to join other podcasts to grow your audience. You're following
- 13:10Speaker 1: your expertise. So next week we're going to dive deep
- 13:12Speaker 1: into the world of pitching to other podcasts. Remember, y'all,
- 13:15Speaker 1: pitching is not just brand deals. Today we covered networking
- 13:18Speaker 1: with other creators. Next week we'll to be talking about podcasts.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this series. I really hope it
- 13:23Speaker 1: opens your mind to the world of pitching, and not
- 13:26Speaker 1: just brand deal pitching, but all the types of pitching
- 13:28Speaker 1: that is available to you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode.
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