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Hometowns, Angry Birds, and Folk Music: with Caleb Christopher Edwards! · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: John forgets the lyrics to his own song and reveals
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  Speaker 3: his earliest childhood memory. Meanwhile, I ponder very special episodes
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  Speaker 3: of eighty sitcoms that dealt with heavy issues and tell
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  Speaker 3: you the tale of the heroic birds who ruined Hitler's
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  Speaker 3: Olympic Games in Berlin. Plus, we're joined by our good
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  Speaker 3: friends singer songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards to talk about his
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  Speaker 3: brand new project, Who's Your Man? Volume two out now
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  Speaker 3: wherever you find your music. Today's episode is not sponsored
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  Speaker 3: by getting all the grocery bags into the house in
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  Speaker 3: one trip. You did it and now you can't feel
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  Speaker 3: your hands. But first award from our actual sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up ab out there?
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  Speaker 4: I'm John with my friend Johnny and my other special
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  Speaker 4: friend Caleb.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very special episode. Johnny of talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: When we were kids.
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  Speaker 3: John, if you're younger than me, but do you remember
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  Speaker 3: sitcoms would have.
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  Speaker 2: Very special episodes. I don't know if that happens anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Where you go all right, you know somebody's into drugs
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  Speaker 3: on my favorite show, Yeah, they go the More you
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  Speaker 3: Know or whatever, and it would be the famous one
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  Speaker 3: on saved by the bell is when gosh, what was
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  Speaker 3: her character's name, Kelly Jesse Jesse got into speed.
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  Speaker 2: I think she was taking.
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  Speaker 4: Caffeine, trying to lose weight or just trying to like
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  Speaker 4: she was trying to study for tests or something.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so excited. I'm so excited, which is I'm
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  Speaker 2: so scared.
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  Speaker 3: And then they hug it out, they get some kind
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  Speaker 3: of caffeine treatment. I don't know what happens. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: about I'm thinking about going off caffeine because I have
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  Speaker 3: the taping coming up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about doing a cleanse.
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  Speaker 1: Are you afraid it's going to affect your performance? I
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  Speaker 1: just think i'd like to, Like, I think you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at the wrong place.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to do you think I need to
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  Speaker 3: be more excited? You need some red Bull?
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  Speaker 5: Have you tried cocaine?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not trying.
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  Speaker 3: This is Caleb, by the way, everybody, I like, the
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  Speaker 3: first word out of his mouth was cocaine.
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  Speaker 2: Sheesh, he's a kidder, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody uses cocaine on the show or well, No, Caleb
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  Speaker 3: is our longtime differend.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb actually was on.
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  Speaker 3: The show for one of our earlier episodes to promote
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  Speaker 3: his record and kind of tell some of his story.
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  Speaker 3: And now he has another record coming out. It just
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  Speaker 3: dropped today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, actually he could.
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  Speaker 2: Be one of the first people to listen. And what
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  Speaker 2: is it called? Tell us a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 5: So I I have released today. It's volume two of
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  Speaker 5: a record called Who's Your Man and Not Who's Your Man?
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  Speaker 5: Not Who's Your Man.
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  Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, altogether Indiana Hoosiers exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Volume one came out in the spring, so this past March,
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  Speaker 5: Volume two comes out today. Volume three comes out in
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  Speaker 5: the fall. But it's uh, it's just a project that
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  Speaker 5: I started probably five or six years ago. Now that
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  Speaker 5: just blew up into the necessity for three volumes. So
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  Speaker 5: it's thirty tracks.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, some I said it's too many.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. I would agree.
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  Speaker 5: I can't argue with that it is too many.
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  Speaker 3: And so in the gist of it, we've talked about
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  Speaker 3: this but explained to them like I love this about
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  Speaker 3: folk music too, and bluegrass music is like there's this
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  Speaker 3: romanticization of your upbringing in your hometown. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the idea behind the record, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, I grew up in Southeastern Indiana, and
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  Speaker 5: I realized after living in Nashville for a while. I've
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  Speaker 5: been here for twelve years now, and Nashville is quite
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  Speaker 5: the melting pot. You meet people from all over the
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  Speaker 5: place and just realize that my childhood and my family
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  Speaker 5: they're just kookie. And there was a lot of really
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  Speaker 5: great opportunities. I my buddy Zach, who I did a
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  Speaker 5: record with last year. Yeah, we did a tour all
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  Speaker 5: last summer, and so I would just tell him stories
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  Speaker 5: because we're driving down the road and he goes this stuff.
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  Speaker 5: You have to write this down, this is hilarious, or
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  Speaker 5: stuff that I would just take for granted. I'm like, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 5: you know the first trapline I had when I was
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  Speaker 5: twelve and I trapped some muskrat for some extra money
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  Speaker 5: to sell some pelts. Because that's the most insane thing
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  Speaker 5: I've ever heard of.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't sell musk pelts or yeah pelts.
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  Speaker 5: How did you make money?
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  Speaker 2: What did you do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I had a sega, but I had I was mad
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  Speaker 3: because other kids had a Nintendo sixty four and I
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  Speaker 3: had my dumb sega.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you're trapping muskrats, trapping muskrats. I had a really
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  Speaker 2: different childhood.
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  Speaker 5: Well see even that, Like it's just I realized, like,
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  Speaker 5: oh there's yeah, there's something sort of interesting there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a movie that I love so much, really underrated,
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  Speaker 3: a movie called Orange count Have you ever seen Orange County?
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  Speaker 3: It's it's uh Mike White, who wrote School of Rock
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  Speaker 3: and some other things. He's a famous screenwriter now, but
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  Speaker 3: he wrote Orange County and it's one of Jack Blake's
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  Speaker 3: earlier films. But uh, it's about a guy who's trying
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  Speaker 3: to be a writer and he's living in Orange County, California.
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  Speaker 3: His family's kind of affluent but not really upper middle class,
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  Speaker 3: but he all of his friends are weird and stoner's
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  Speaker 3: and he has all these weird characters in his life
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  Speaker 3: and he's trying to he's he's outgrown his girlfriend and
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  Speaker 3: he's just trying to move on. He wants to go
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  Speaker 3: to Stanford and become a writer. He's got he idolizes
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  Speaker 3: this writer and uh, and he teaches the writing class
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  Speaker 3: at this Stanford at at Stanford, he wants to go
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  Speaker 3: take this guy's course because he wrote the Great American
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  Speaker 3: novel and he wants to write. And so the whole
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  Speaker 3: movie is about him trying to escape all these hometown
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  Speaker 3: like hangers on and then he finally gets to all
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  Speaker 3: these you know, misadventures. But then he finally gets to
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  Speaker 3: meet this guy on campus at Stanford and he starts
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  Speaker 3: telling him some of his stories and he was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: the reason I became a great writer is because all
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  Speaker 3: of these people in my life, these colorful characters.
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  Speaker 2: That's who I wrote.
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  Speaker 3: You're trying to escape the thing that is the thing exactly,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's the realization he has.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's the same. I mean, John,
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  Speaker 5: you're a writer. You write comedy, I write songs. So
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  Speaker 5: we're all writers, and you can't do the thing that
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  Speaker 5: you do without observing. And the thing that I observed
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  Speaker 5: for the first eighteen years of my life was just
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  Speaker 5: some crazy people in southeastern Indiana come from big families,
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  Speaker 5: like both of my grandpa's paternal and maternal are one
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  Speaker 5: of ten kids. Yeah, and they all lived right in
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  Speaker 5: that area, and every single one of them was just
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  Speaker 5: crazier than the next and just like wild, just wild stories.
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  Speaker 5: And it's it's almost mythologized at this point of I
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  Speaker 5: tell a story and someone says, does that really happen,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, it did, but I'm sure at some
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  Speaker 5: point this is just going to be a folk story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's just folklore tale. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I read a thing about that about how like our
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  Speaker 3: memories don't work the way we think they do because
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  Speaker 3: we think of it as like a book. We take
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  Speaker 3: it down and we read from it, and what it's
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  Speaker 3: what it really is. What we're learning from people who
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  Speaker 3: study memory is that like every time you touch it,
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  Speaker 3: it becomes something a little bit different. Yeah, you morph
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  Speaker 3: more into the hero or the or the victim, and
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  Speaker 3: the story or something gets colored a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I have heard something similar that when you think about
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  Speaker 5: a memory, you're remembering the last time you remembered it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so it changes and.
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  Speaker 5: So I you know, what's your earliest memory.
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  Speaker 3: My earliest memory we talked about on the pod I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about the other day.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about on the podcast a few episodes ago.
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  Speaker 3: It was I was four years old and we had
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  Speaker 3: a Saint Bernard named Boofer, and me and my brother
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  Speaker 3: were in the I have a twin brother, and we
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  Speaker 3: were in the tub together and Boofer ran out of
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  Speaker 3: the hallway and jumped in the.
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  Speaker 2: Tub with us.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's a great one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that great, it's great.
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  Speaker 5: What's yours.
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  Speaker 1: I have a memory of.
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  Speaker 4: Like a family party I was probably four. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: think I was in a cowboy nice outfit.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't photo of it, and you think that I
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  Speaker 2: think it might be the memory. Yeah, yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 2: good point.
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  Speaker 1: I had a I had a garden nozzle for a gun.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So for a while my parents didn't wants to have guns,
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  Speaker 4: and I think they finally just gave in, saying.
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  Speaker 2: If you grew up and like got really into agriculture, They're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, we're hoping we did this, we said the course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I think all that to say is is this
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  Speaker 5: record for me has been a way to remember those
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  Speaker 5: things kind of, if I'm honest, kind of in a
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  Speaker 5: way that I want to remember them. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: grew up in very rural part of the country and
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  Speaker 5: I did it was lovely, so many wonderful memories, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, kind of poor part of the country and
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  Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of drugs in that in
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  Speaker 5: that part of the country, and and uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there are so many things that I could list that
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  Speaker 5: are negatives of growing up in southeastern Indiana, but there's
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  Speaker 5: so much beauty in that too, and so I wanted
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to disort of mythologize the Indiana that I
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  Speaker 5: want to remember.
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  Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, for sure, it's beautiful, man.
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  Speaker 4: I mean because it's it's hard, it's funny. I have
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  Speaker 4: some memories that I don't know what it is. I
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  Speaker 4: don't have necessarily a bad thing that happened, but there
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  Speaker 4: are places in my childhood because I'm from Nashville, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm still here that if I go back to them,
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  Speaker 4: they give me the HEBGB so much. Sure, I have
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  Speaker 4: trouble engaging them. Yeah, and I'm not even sure why sometimes,
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  Speaker 4: like because there's not a thing tied to it necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that you're.
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  Speaker 4: You know, bringing thought to it, right, you're engaging in
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  Speaker 4: the things those are's the those rooms of childhood inside
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  Speaker 4: of our heads that we don't go to sometimes, but
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna go there and figure out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's going on that can be redeemed. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, And I there's also a part of
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  Speaker 5: this that when I started writing these songs, I started
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  Speaker 5: sharing them with my dad and my Dad was given
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  Speaker 5: this real to real recorder by his uncle after his
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  Speaker 5: uncle passed away. My uncle Marvin spent like twenty years,
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  Speaker 5: twenty five years just recording literally everything with this recorder.
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  Speaker 5: And Dad just has stacks upon stacks of tape. And
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  Speaker 5: this guy would record church sermons, New Year's Eve services,
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  Speaker 5: grand Ole Opry episodes, and just anything he could think
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  Speaker 5: of he had that he had the thing on there,
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  Speaker 5: and so Dad said, we should come and listen to
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  Speaker 5: this stuff, see see if there's anything that could that
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  Speaker 5: could spark a song idea. So I started listening and
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  Speaker 5: realized that they're so much there of my grandparents. My
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  Speaker 5: grand grandma who's still with us as a young woman,
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  Speaker 5: she's like twenty years old, playing the piano and singing
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  Speaker 5: and stuff. And then my grandpa, who I never got
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  Speaker 5: to meet. He was a preacher, Yeah, and just him preaching,
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  Speaker 5: and and you just it just that person, the picture
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  Speaker 5: that you have of that person you've never met, becomes
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  Speaker 5: like three three dimensional. And because I've heard so many
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  Speaker 5: stories from my dad about his dad, I'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: he was he was kind of weird. He's a weird guy,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And you hear him preach you're like, man,
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  Speaker 5: he is weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that also played.
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  Speaker 5: I just took some of these recordings and just placed
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  Speaker 5: him in the tracks. And because I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know another better way to do this is just instead
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  Speaker 5: of you listening to me talk about how weird my
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  Speaker 5: grandpa was, listen for yourself and so on Who's Your Man?
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  Speaker 5: Volume two, which releases today, there is a track called
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  Speaker 5: Paul and so I talk about my grandpa Paul and
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  Speaker 5: what I know about him, and I just take the
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  Speaker 5: recording of him preaching.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just probably's like a little like, oh that's cool,
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  Speaker 2: like a little background an excerpt of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't know when I went and saw
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  Speaker 3: your show with Zach what's his last name, Zach White.
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  Speaker 2: Zach White.
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  Speaker 3: So, Zach White normally tours with his wife a lot
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  Speaker 3: Zach and Maggie.
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  Speaker 5: They're called Zaggy now Zaggy Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're amazing in their own right. Yeah, but you did
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  Speaker 2: a project with him as a duo and then did
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  Speaker 2: some shows to support that record.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that you guys made It was my favorite show
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  Speaker 3: I saw all of last year.
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  Speaker 2: It was so good.
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  Speaker 3: It had everything, it had all this laughs and pathos
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  Speaker 3: and all the things that you would want.
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  Speaker 2: You just experience it all. And that's what I really love.
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  Speaker 3: I love the musicianship of bluegrass and folk, but everybody
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  Speaker 3: kind of takes their turn, and sometimes I'll see, like
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  Speaker 3: I used to do this thing with Tim Hawkins where
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  Speaker 3: we would stand on stage and do one liners back
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  Speaker 3: and forth. That's the closest thing to bluegrass I'll probably
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  Speaker 3: ever experience. It's because you are not just waiting to talk,
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  Speaker 3: You're also trying to sell the other guy's joke.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to set them up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to be involved in an active listener even though
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  Speaker 3: I know what's coming, but the audience is looking at
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  Speaker 3: me too, and if I just look bored, like when's
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  Speaker 3: it my turn to tell the joke? And so that's
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  Speaker 3: the closest thing to bluegrass that I've experienced. But I
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  Speaker 3: just love that part of it. And you talk about
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  Speaker 3: the stories like family stories. One of the coolest things
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  Speaker 3: ever I got to do a show with Mark Lowry.
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  Speaker 3: We were doing a conference together and he did Tuesday Night.
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  Speaker 3: I did Monday Night, I think.
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  Speaker 2: But I watched his show and he tells a story
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  Speaker 2: about visiting his mother in a memory care facility. I
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  Speaker 2: think she passed now, but.
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  Speaker 3: He shows a video of it and he's singing to her, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and their play.
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  Speaker 2: He's singing to her a song. And you know that's
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: You've seen these stories where these people kind of come
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  Speaker 3: to life when they hear an old song, even if
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  Speaker 3: they're losing their mind, they're losing their memory, they oh,
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  Speaker 3: I remember that song. And he's got her on camera
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  Speaker 3: and he's singing, and she starts singing with him. She goes,
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  Speaker 3: I love that song, and he goes, you know who
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  Speaker 3: wrote that? And she goes no, and he goes, you did.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I just started like balling. I
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  Speaker 3: mean there's seven thousand of us in the crowd, and
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, all right, you got me? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because his mom used to write these songs, and I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, oh my gosh, man. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that's what I love. Like I feel like what I
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  Speaker 3: do is like I'm commenting on culture or I'm like
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  Speaker 3: a reactionary in a lot of ways. And when I
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  Speaker 3: see a show like yours, where you're putting your heart
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  Speaker 3: out there on a sleeve, yeah, and you're saying like
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  Speaker 3: this is who I am, and I just think there's.
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  Speaker 2: A bravery to that that I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like is absent in what I do sometimes, Like I
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  Speaker 3: feel like it takes braver to stand on stage anyway,
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  Speaker 3: But I do feel like it's a different set of tricks.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks, It's funny. I've been doing this for a long
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  Speaker 5: time now, but I think that these songs have have
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  Speaker 5: been the easiest to play, yeah, and saying these stories
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  Speaker 5: have been so great to tell, and the easiest ones
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  Speaker 5: I could tell from stage. And I think it's because
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  Speaker 5: I do feel a little bit like I'm hiding behind them.
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  Speaker 5: I get to just tell you a story. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have to tell you how how it affected me or
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  Speaker 5: how I felt about it.
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  Speaker 2: But like standing up here, yeah, it kind of you know.
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  Speaker 5: All these people below me how I like to keep it.
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  Speaker 5: But there is I just heard this quote here. Because
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  Speaker 5: I do, I do get to present the story in
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  Speaker 5: a way that you know I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like directing a movie. I imagine you have
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  Speaker 5: a story and you're like, well, I want to show
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  Speaker 5: these beats for for whatever purpose. And so writing writing
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  Speaker 5: a song that tells a story like that is similar,
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  Speaker 5: where you're trying to shape it in a particular way
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying. I might be trying to make a point.
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  Speaker 5: And I heard someone say that folk music is created
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  Speaker 5: to comfort disturbed people and disturb comfortable people. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't know who said that. I just heard it yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: and that has really stuck with me. And I've realized
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  Speaker 5: that in my own shows, I have a fair amount
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  Speaker 5: of comfortable and disturbed people who come to my shows
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: and listen and listen to my records, and I think
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: it's true. And so when your songs are about some
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: of those people who might be the song I'm going
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: to sing today is about a gentleman who one day
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: he might be comfortable one day, but he might be disturbed.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I can relate. Well. Check out Who's Your Man? Volume two,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Caleeb Christopher Edwards.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, where do they go to get?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Where's the best place go?
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Anywhere?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Where do you get the most money?
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all on there. If you want to take
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: money from your wallet and put it into my wallet
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: in exchange for music, then you can go to band camp.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Caleb Christopher Edwards. Two. We're going to hear a song
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: later from Caleb. At first, let's hear a word.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: For a few of our fine sponsors, and we're back.
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  Speaker 1: Carol. What's the name of the song you're playing?
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: It's called Old Man Hunter?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, this is Caleb Christopher Edwards.
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  Speaker 7: Old Man Hunter was being pulled tall, his bald head
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: wings like a crystal ball.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: I could hear.
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  Speaker 7: His laugh on the telephone, call a Mom and Dad
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: his landline.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: He held King James in the crook of his arm,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: which had lost strength when he sold his farm. He
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: praises God. They can do no harm like they did
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: in the age of landmines.
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  Speaker 7: But Old Man Hunter couldn't sleep at night when Vietnam
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: shined in the lack of light.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: The dark would offer such awful sights, and he would
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: bunk her in his kitchen. But he'd wake each morning
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: with a toothless grin, happy to awake and do it
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: over again. Every time I wake. Gets me past the sin,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: and I can call myself a Christian. Well, I'd see this.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: Man showed her all his blame. So I took her rock,
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: and I carved his name, and I squeezed it every
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: time I said Amen. I watched him dive beneath the
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: pews amidst the psalms and bombs, confused, picking up the
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: pieces of.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: His broken friends. Almn. Amen.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Once he called my mom said, don't you sob There
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: ain't nothing wrong with brother Rob. But I found him
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: in the road like a whimpering dog, and I swept
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: him out of danger. So he drove down the hill,
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: and to my surprise, it looked like Daddy had met
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: his demise.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But old man hunters all the fear in our eyes,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: he said, we only lost his ranger.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he hugged my mom.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: She began to weep. She said, maybe tonight you'll finally
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: sleep knowing you can do such a beautiful deed, like
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: saving country pastors. But old man Hunter saw in front
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: of me a near broken heart. Not yet sixteen. I
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: never drive away in my general lee, but I can
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: still here his laughter. Well, i'd see this man shoulder
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: all his blame.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: So I took her rock and I carved his name,
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: and I squeezed it every time I said Amen. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: watched them dive beneath the pews amidst the psalms and bombs, confused,
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: picking up the pieces of his broken friends.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Amen, Amen, Amen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, Wow, it's amazing. Kel Christopher Edwards in Who's Your Man?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Volume two?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Check it out, get it on bank camp, get it
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: wherever you stream all your goodies.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, if you want to buy it, go there.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Go there, Yeah, check it out. You should buy it it, You.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Should buy it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you mean.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Music should be saying.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I know music we think of music now is something
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: that we share and all that and whatever.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Come on, y'all, let's uh yeah, let's spread some love
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: here today.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: If we could stretch your hands towards the podcast, if
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you would.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Man, thanks for sharing that. That's beautiful and man, no lyrics.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: He just that's a lot of stuff too. That's odd, remember, Yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: unlike a worship song or something like. It's okay and
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: we'll get back to that chorus.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And I know it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: When I met Stephen Curtis Chapman at the Opry a
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: few a couple of months ago, we were talking about
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I've sag I will be here at like six weddings,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: and he apologized. He goes, I know, I wrote the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: most complicated wedding song. Yes, every chorus is different. Yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: so you've got to remember the second I will be
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I will be here. It's a different course, You're like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: you're the most nervous you've ever been, and now you're like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: here we go again.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: He has another song. It's a bit of a deep cut,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: but it's I forget what it's called, but it's a
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Christmas song and it's a out. All I really want
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: for Christmas is someone that took me, and it's.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: An orphan adoption.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: So yeah, And I sang that song at the church
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I grew up, and I was probably like seventeen eighteen,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: just completely blanked on the words.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just just butchered it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: And I had him written out because I thought I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: knew him. I had him written out, and I'm like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: it's okay, I can do this. And I had folded
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: them and put him in my back pocket, and I
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: even was like, I'm so sorry. I really want to
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: do a good job. So I ran back into the
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: room I was practicing in to look for the lyrics
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: there in my pocket. They were in my pocket a
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: whole time.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, won't that though?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: That's a song right there? Yeah. The answer every chorus is.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Every chorus is different.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And man, I.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Still John and I were in a band together. You
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: may or may not know but we John had a
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: few moments where he blanked out. My favorite one ever
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: was and John wrote the song, and so he had
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: a song where it was It was called Search No
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: More and one of the one of the lyrics was
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: as my as I put my feet on the floor
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: that day, tired of running this race. Quietly, he spoke
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: to me, son, it's through my grace.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But he said, what did you say. I said, I
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: put my feet on the floor that day, tired to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: run this race.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: I don't know when you go, don't be afraid, my
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: baby boy, and I kind of looked over, like, soys
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: about to come.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: We got off stage that night, I go, baby.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Boy, we've been in the studio all day and we
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: were doing some Thanksgiving event for cay Alpha, and yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I just blanked.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I just was like, but I made up something.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Remind it reminds me a little bit of of that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: episode of Friends where Ross tries to kiss his cousin,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: you know, and he can only hear his inner thoughts
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and she's just staring at him, and he's like, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: can't say what he says because it's a family show.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: But he's like say something anything, anything.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: It's like this long and then he says something and
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: he was like, you shouldn't have said that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Oh no, you made it worse yet. Even God was like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: baby boy, yeah, call you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: That sounds like that sounds like a story someone would
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: tell about Bob Dylan somebody where he's just making up
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: words on the spot. Don't don't think twice, baby boy.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Oh that's good. It's good. Good, it's good.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He gets credit for it. Oh man, well sharing, Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're gonna jump into my segment and.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Stay aboard and be a third voice in the help here.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: It's the quote of the week, we call it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: They talked about that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Regal.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very regal.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: We have a friend here who's a writer, Clive Staples today.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Clive Staples Lewis. Yeah, it's gonna be somebody if he
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: just stays with it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And it's about writing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: He says, Uh, of a book's meaning, its author is
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: not necessarily the best and is never a perfect judge.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: One of his intentions usually was that it should have
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: a certain meaning. He cannot be sure that it has.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: He cannot even be sure that the meaning he intended
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: it to have was in every way or even at all,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: better than the meaning which readers find in it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so kind of we talked about that a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: little bit already, but that you know, you have. My
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: agent would.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Always say to me and I when I kind of
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: consult with authors when we're writing, always remind them you
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: never write to a plural audience. Yeah, you never say,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: you know, you guys might You're always and he would say, Look,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: you're having a one on one conversation with someone, they're
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: on a plane, they're in a coffee shop and you're
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: talking to just them and they're not here. You know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: to remember you're writing to one and that idea. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: find this Ensermons a lot that somebody will come up
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: and say something to me about what you know, obviously
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: the spirit started within them from whenever we were talking
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: about out that day, and I'm just like, yeah, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: didn't that's awesome.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I had no.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I didn't set out for that to be what, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: what came. I'm just I thought it was an interesting
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: thing to reflect on because I think that's why it's
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: important that we write. Yeah, right, I think because we
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: don't get to choose what people take from the things
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: that we do, and there's a there's a I don't
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: mean to over spiritualize it, but my life has always
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: been a calling to write.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Like it was very clear to me.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Originally I thought music, not that I still don't do
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: some of that, but that's not at all. I think
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: where the gift of those things really lies. I was
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: just sort of where I kind of cut my teeth
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: on things. But it is a compulsion almost of like
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I know I'm supposed to do this, and the opportunities,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you know, are usually there, sometimes they're not. And sometimes
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: the most fun writing is the one you're not sure
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: anyone's gonna read right because of there's a security to us.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: But it is important if someone ever does read it right,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: that you're putting something out there. Yeah, And I told
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I told Reggie Dabs when we finished. It's the first
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: book ever wrote.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: On that was published.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And it hit me because we told his whole life story,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: and I don't know why it hit me so hard.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Then I said, Reggie, someday because he speaks to millions
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: of people, but he won't forever. I was like, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: someday when you die, your your story. You're going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: still be speaking now, right, and people are gonna have
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: they're going to interact with that story in a way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't ever.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Mind if I find one of my books, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: in a good will or something like, I'm curious where
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: it traveled, right, I'm curious. I don't want it sitting
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: on someone's shelf in their house, you know, I'd rather
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: go somewhere because who knows who read the next one?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It is the Yeah, the dust Spin of History.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: John Aaron Webber, my buddy could great me to Aaron Webber,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I think he has a bit about finding a number
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: one dad mug in a good will and he's like, that's.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Just sad already. He goes the best case scenario, he's dead.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Worst case you're.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Like, no number one anymore anymore. He's still alive, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you're like, take it from him.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I have found so the band that I joined when
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I first moved here. It is kind of the reason
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: why I moved here. I have found the record I
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: did with them at McKay's.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Yeah, it's a weird moment.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I kind of kind was pumped, like I finally made
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: it I'm in McKay's and I had.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: A friend who is a plumber and he was doing
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: some work for us and we have mutual friend my neighbors.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: He introduced me and he was one of the weirdest things.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: He We were talking one day and he's like, dude,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: we went to mcay's.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: We took our kids.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Was the first time, so let him go buy books
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and stuff.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Because I bought about ten books and I got home
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: and one of them was not so black and white.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Aha.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: He's like, wait a second, Like he had literally went
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and bought a book and it had me as one
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of the co authors on it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: He was like, I couldn't. I was like, well, that's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's rare. Yeh.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fun to me.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: The CS Lewis thing is I think about especially in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: pop culture now, you see it every election year, which
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: feels like it never ends. Now election cycles never end
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: because we're always always campaigning for the next thing. But
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: like they'll use like Born in the USA, Yeah, having
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: no clue that it's like a protest song. It's like
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: or you'll see like Fortunate Son. You're like, oh, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: guys are the fortunate Son.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Magnate Son was playing one day on it. It was
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: a had Brett farb As an old commercial. It was
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: it was a Wrangler or something, a Wrangler commercial or something,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: and it was around the fourth of July, and they
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: just use the ooh, the red, white and blue, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: they just they take the rest of the song out.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: That wasn't celebrated.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: The fourth of the.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Next line, yeah, don't rhyme it. Yeah, yeah, no, it
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: is wild. But that's the things like you sometimes. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: there was a great show via twenty two called Storytellers,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: and bands would talk about their records and their songs,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and then they would have to talk about that what
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you're just talking about where a song or a piece
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: of art, a writing is not just a monologue. It's
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: a dialogue, and their reaction to it is part of
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the conversation and you have to live with that. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: it was Pearl Jam after the ten record, which had
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: like five number ones on it or something, and the
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: song Alive became like what they were known for. But
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Alive is a very dark song about like a childhood trauma.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I think the story I heard about it, I'm going
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: to get it wrong. But he didn't talk about this
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: in Storytellers but I think what I heard was because
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: it says what you thought was your daddy was nothing,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and then while you were sitting home alone at age thirteen,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: your real daddy was dying. Like I think he found
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: out that the person who had raised him was not
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: his dad, and it was too late to go find
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: his real dad, who had died of MS. So that's
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the song, and then the chorus is, but I'm still alive,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I'm still alive, and it's like almost like this chant
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: of like I don't want to be alive, but he goes,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: he goes.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: There was a curse over that song. We would play it,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: but it felt We knew it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Was a heavy song, but you guys over the years
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: made it this celebration of life and you would sing
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: differently and it bothered us at first, and when we
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: finally embraced it, it broke the curse. You changed the
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: meaning of the song and it broke the curse. Like
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Eddie Vedder was saying this, it was really emotional.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I think there's something to that, like letting, because we
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: used to have songs we wrote and we would meet
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: people in somewhere out and we'd done our third record
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: by then, and they'd go, I love this song from
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: your friend. You go, ooh, don't like that. You would
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: be mad at them for liking earlier work.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And you go, it's a dialogue. Let them like it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: What are you yucking their young for? Yeah?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had. This just happened last week. I was
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: up in Michigan and I did this. I did like
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: a ten day run and I started in South Carolina
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: and it ended up in the Upper Peninsula, and so
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: just the audiences were just very, very different from each other.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: They're further north I got. But the very last show
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: was in this Episcopal church. And I have this song
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: that's on volume one called My Best Friends, and it's
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: about my grandma and grandpa. I grew up right around
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: the corner from them, and talking about just hanging out
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: with my grandpa, like planting trees, it's something that we
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: used to do, and sort of making a little joke
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: about how my grandma can't hear anything.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: This I noticed this woman in the front row who
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: was probably maybe in her seventies, just weeping, and I'm like, oh, okay,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: that's not quite the reaction I was. I mean, I'm anticipating,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: and I saw another woman, who I found out later
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: was her daughter, get up and just like give her
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: a hug. And I thought, oh, maybe this is like
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: a mother daughter thing, because this time, or the chorus
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: goes our times getting short, and time's getting quick, like
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: the end of a candlewick and I'm still scared of
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: the dark is the chorus. And I found out later
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: this woman came up to me and said that she goes,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I love How did she say it? I love the
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: song you wrote about your spouse. And she said, I
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: just lost my husband like two months ago, and so
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: she thought when she heard and I'll live there till
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I die with my best friends, she immediately thought of
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: her husband. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, I have
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you what the song means, actually,
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: but I've realized that being very specific in work like that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm from a little four way stop in
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Franklin County, Indiana called Buena Vista. None of us speak Spanish,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: we call it Beauny. It's ridiculous. That's it's the most
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: specific thing that I could think of. And I have
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: people that'll that will write me from all over the
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: world now and say like I love and they write
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: it out phonetically the UNI, which is hilarious. But like
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I've realized, the more specific you are in your writing,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: in your work, the more universal it becomes because people
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: are just natural storytellers and whatever details you give them,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: they're just going to flip it and make it their own.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they plug in their own they plug in
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: their own beauty. Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Even if you just yeah, if you might live in
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: New York and now you know that your corner store
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: might be there, bodega or whatever it is, they can
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: pull from it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: There's always work.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's what's cool about like the Heartland music
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: is like, even if you didn't grow up there, there's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: so many cool morals and lessons and things, and there's
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: just not there's.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of art that's like that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: But I think that's one thing about folk music that
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: has drawn me to it because that's what I grew
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: up playing. I grew up around that, and so it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: the that music is so story driven. Yeah, And I
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: think it's why it's it's drawn me to play to
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: write writing faith based music too, because to me, when
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I say this to people, they kind of give me
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: a weird look. But to me, the gospel is like
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: the ultimate folk story.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's folklore. Yeah, and the best way.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: And to quote Lewis he was he would say, like
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: it is, it's the most truest story of all the myths.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: And I think, to me, like Christian music whatever that means,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: like faith based music, the gospel and folk music just
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: like go hand in hand like that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: There was a thing there was to do a network
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: when I was a kid called the AX Network. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: don't know what it became. Did it was it an
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Was it a precursor to TVN Remember Acts Network?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Remember this?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It was like one of the early Christian networks. Anyway,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: they would do these original programming. There was this one
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: play that they did a live presentation of I.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Know it toured as well. It was called Cotton Patch Gospel.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of it? And it literally is
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Gospel as a folk tale. It's like if Jesus
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: was born in the Deep South in the cixies.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Oh wow.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of it and it reminded me a
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: little bit when I saw, oh brother, we're out there
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: for the for the first time. It reminded me a
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: little bit of that, the baptism scene and all that,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: because when he chooses, like Judas.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Is Jude, yeah and uh.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And but like Jesus gets lynched in it, he doesn't.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It doesn't get crucid. He gets lynched.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And they because they form a bluegrass band, so he
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: picks his band, so when he picks his disciples that
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: this was like the eighties when I saw this, But
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I think Jesus it's it's like a detelling of j
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: he came to the Wow. I need to revisit it myself.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: But it's called Cotton Patch Gospel. And of course back then,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: who knows, it probably offended as many people as it sure, because.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Everybody's this is a heretical version of the whatever.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know, man, I think, like you said,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of ways to like, if you put
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: yourself in the story, you're always gonna it's any more.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Can you can you can have more connection to it?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Well, oh, brother art they all that's actually retelling.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Of the Odyssey, right right?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And so everyone has been asking me like, has
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: this been your favorite, like the Odyssey adaptation. I'm like, no,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: that came out, yeah with George Quinney, and then Ralph
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Stanley is singing O Death twenty some years ago.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that was such a great film. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that's so cool.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: All right, well let's see my segments. This wrap up
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the show with mine. Let's start with old jokes.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: We call it joke about that.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Boys, there's only one group of people stupid enough to
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: believe in astrology scorpios. A man, sorry, a man walks
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: into a bar and shouts free beers outside, So everyone
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: in the bar except the bartender, ran outside in excitement.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: The bartender, visibly angry, yells at the man, what did
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: you do that?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: For?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Now I have no customers? The man says, sorry, mister,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: honestly didn't think of those men would be brave enough
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to fight a grizzly beer, let alone free of them? John,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Did you know the Sylvester Stallone is on his third marriage?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: WHOA That means his first one was rocky and I
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: guess the second one was rocky too. Oh no, oh no,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: come on, y'all. This thing on a cruise ship passes
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: by a remote island, boys, and all the passengers see
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: a bearded man running around and waving his arms wildly.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Captain one passenger as, who's that man over there? I
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: have no idea, The captain says, he goes nuts every.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Year when we pass it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: That's good, all right, let's close up with this week
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: in history, boys, we call it talk about then.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Boys.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: This week nineteen thirty six, during the opening ceremonies of
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the nineteen thirty six Olympics, also known as Hitler's Games
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: YEP in Berlin, thousands of pigeons were released, and when
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a ceremonial cannon was fired, it's tartled the pigeons, causing
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: them to poop on.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: All the spectators below. The pigeons let themselves, they etched
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: their hey, their marking.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: History and getting shot at with a cannon.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I just think it's great that like a bunch of
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: white supremacists on the ground getting pooped on.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: But I guess there were like good people.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Down there too, But it's just cool that hits like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: look what I have made for you, and then just
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: a rain of poop.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: That sounds like a best case scenario.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, pretty good.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: This week nineteen eighty one, A little Channel, the first
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: twenty four hour.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Music Channel debut MTV.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Would anybody like take a guess at what the first
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: video they played was you this little piece of history?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: What year? How old are you?
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: I'm thirty two, Kaleb, just a baby?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So you don't remember when MTV was like like
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: a really huge seminar part of our lives.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when it was like the reality shows
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: were on it and stuff?
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I remember the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: VMA's probably, but yeah, VMA's, but not music videos being
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: played all day every day.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: No, I remember CMT did that, yeah, like twenty years ago.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first video was called Video Killed the Radio
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Star by the Buggles.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: She was a little bit prophetic. Yeah, yeah, it press.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It proved to be Yeah, it proved to be true.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: And and they were kind of an odd looking new
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: wave ban too, so they were kind of like, yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: they said, we're not long for this world either.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And then high deaf cameras came and ruined a lot
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of movie careers too. There's like a whole story about
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: that about like actors and actresses who are like, oh,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: we're gonna see that many pores in my face. I
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: wanna go ahead and call it a night, and they
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: like quit acting.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets there, like these cameras are too good now, yeah, yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: tix cameras.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too good.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: This week, nineteen sixty eight, Peanuts creators Charles M. Schultz
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: introduced the first black character.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: On his comic strip.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Franklin school teacher Harriet Glickman had written to Schultz shortly
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: after the assassination of Martin Luther King Junior, urging him
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: to introduce a black character into Peanuts. Schultz met opposition
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to the idea from Southern editors who did not want
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Franklin attending school or going to the homes.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Of white children. Isn't that crazy?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: This is in nineteen sixty eight, Schultz told the president
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: of the strips distributor, Well, Larry, let's put it this way.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Either you print it just the way I draw it,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: or I quit. How's that go, Charles Schultz?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Come on, Schultz, Juke.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Says it took actual bravery to do these things. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: pretty cool. Yeah, love it. Let's see, let me see
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: one more. Finally, the first manned flight to land on
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: the Moon was this week nineteen sixteen eight. If you
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: believe in that sort of thing we do, we're pretty
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: pro science. Here talk about that Apollo eleven is launched
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: landing on the Moon four days later. Neil Armstrong became
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the first person to step on the lunar surface six
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: hours after landing on July twenty first, with Buzz Aldron
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: famously following him shortly thereafter. Aldron would later joke a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: many talk shows, I think I've seen a clip or
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: two of this that while Armstrong was the first man
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: to walk on the Moon, he was the first to
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: pee his pants on the Moon, so Buzz gets that distinction.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: They also left behind a laser reflector, which was used
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: to prove that the Moon was one hundred and thirty
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: one point.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Two feet farther away than previously believed.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Have we already shared this information.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: We did it on the episode that we didn't air,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: So you are looking at me very puzzled. But this
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: is the one that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sorry, we tried one, guys. I know it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: been two weeks, but the audience tryout here Johnny was
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: remote and it was oddly enough, it was not mine
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: my internet in the here in the office that messed.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Up the high speed. I was on Hotel Hampton in
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: internet and I was I.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Was blazing anyway, so I knew, I know, I know this.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe I dreamed it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Could his pants that's a weird tru And.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Then I have it every night. I will go and
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: then I peed my pants.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: And then on the flight home he pooped on a Nazi.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: That's isn't that crazy?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: That's that's what we'll tell our kids, I said, every
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: time we touch the memory, we change it exactly.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Our kids getting pretty sure buzz up at the Hitler games.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I'm no expert, but I know was I've heard it
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: on the podcast.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That's disinformation. That's it's okay, is it?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Missinver? Disinver? What is the difference? Is one with malice?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Misinformation might be a mistake. Disinformation is just like I'm
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: a it's a propaganda campaign against truth.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We need to figure that out because a lot off's
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: going on. You know.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Sometimes there's two words. There's anti Christian and there's Unchristian. Okay,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: ty biblical or unbiblical? You know, So yeah, maybe that's
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: the difference, is right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I think I've been both from time to time, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to I called you both here.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Because I want to use it on.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I know which one I am.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: If you come back next week. Yeah, for Who's Your Man?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Part three? That's the whole record is just about revealing that. Yeah. Well,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: it's been an honor having with you.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: And man, it's been it's been great. We need more guests,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, uh and uh, we don't do it enough.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: It's because nobody is quite as interesting as us in
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: our own minds.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Sometimes the guest episodes go well and sometimes they don't.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: And this one went, well, oh good.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That's our show.
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  Speaker 3: great writings. And I think you said you put like
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• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I put a book.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Together of some short stories about growing up in Indiana.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Oh that's why.
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  Speaker 5: I think a few of those I have published.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just love it. I always get something out
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  Speaker 1: You And so Caleb is one of the best writers
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I know. And I'm not I'm just.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Telling you makes you mad.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I get mad every time.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Like this guy, Well he just did this like a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: pigeon over a stadium.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some of us are out here. Yeah, he's here,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: sticks together and he's just flying sory. So you really
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere, and I'm going everywhere. The big one that's coming
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  Speaker 3: up is that we're doing a taping. We've booked shows
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  Speaker 3: in my hometown the Biju Theater, Knoxville, Tennessee. We sold
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  Speaker 3: out the seven pm who We're selling a matinee show
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  Speaker 3: at the shooting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing.
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• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could be.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Or it could be that we hate both shows and
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  Speaker 3: I bury it because I'll own it because I'm paying
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: for this.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: So I could be like, well, this isn't coming.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: A weird laugh just he's not letting it through. Johnny's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: very particular.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will let it you out. Yea.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: We will use We'll find some weird AI thing. I
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  Speaker 3: don't love AI, but I'll use it to edit your
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  Speaker 3: laugh out. If you've ruined my show, that will not pass.
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  Speaker 1: Don't run his show.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why you're.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Going to release I was going to release some birds
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: at some point.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and shut off a cannon.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm talking to Caleb about perhaps doing an unhappy
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Camper with me adding a little mandolin, little harmful high harmony.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: I cannot laugh though.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I told you he's got to you know, you got
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: to sell it. Yeah, which he played with the Clever
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  Speaker 3: Leads for a long time and so he knows what
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: he's doing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I was on Johnny's first comedy special, John's Yeah. I
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: don't like to I don't like to brag, but.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: John had some screen time.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I kind of I had two words, and uh yeah
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: they were funny, but we still a lot.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You sold it though, if you smirked. Did you smirk?
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: I don't think so.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe how many cameras did you have because I wasn't
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: trying to smirk. Yeah, that's just my face.
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  Speaker 2: It's poor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's true. If you do. John's retired now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 2: Really, it's uh yeah, take a look.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta I got a real face for podcasting though.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, hey guys, thanks so much of the time you
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  Speaker 4: get to day Kale.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Is a lot of fun. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week here on talk about
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  Speaker 1: that