Latest / The Scrambling Dads Podcast / Episode 49: Sauna Golf & Growing Kids

Transcript

Episode 49: Sauna Golf & Growing Kids · The Scrambling Dads Podcast

• Alex: Jason, man, little you joked, it's the it's the whisper episode. We're up nice and early. man, I'm on my way to a a golf round, which is what I've played twice this week. And and I've played twice this year, so I'm doubling my my round count in in five days, which is we'll just call that the dad life there. I know we're both sitting here Jason: That's funny. Alex: whispering. My AC is my AC's still out upstairs, so the kids are sleeping in the living room all of like twenty yards away from me. You got you got a little one being restless. Marcus is in Saint Lucia, so this is this you wanna talk scrambling dads. This is this is the epitome under right now. I'm just trying to squeeze it in where we can. Jason: Yeah, this is this is our life. that's funny you mentioned you played what, double you're doubling your rounds this week. I feel like I've almost did that as well. just because of our schedules. it's funny how it's just like I what played with you, then went to the range, and then I even went to then that little scramble I was invited to to get out. So it's like crazy. Like Alex: Yeah. Yeah, you you sent me a text about that one. So I want to hear about that. So we're what we're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit about today. We I wanna talk health and stamina as it relates to golf. I think we saw a little bit of that when we don't want to get too much into our round on Tuesday, but we can at least talk about that part. I wanna talk about your mental the mental side of what you were just saying with a different round. and then Really, since you're a teacher, I want to get your perspective on like when kids are like the new kids are going into a new level of school and preparing them. this trip is six going into middle school. and you obviously see it with, you know, ninth graders going into high school, and that environment and just totally different than what they're used to, right? So, Good Tuesday. Let's talk about that first. So Tuesday's golf round. just like everywhere in the world, there's been a massive heat wave. I think I I never looked at my phone and I really should have, but I know Monday the feels like the heat index was like one sixteen. Did you look at your phone for Tuesday? Jason: Actually no. No, my phone stayed in the cart the whole time. 'cause I was just focused Alex: Dude, it Jason: on just the round. But I know the day after I know I took a picture and I sent it to guys, it was like feels like one twenty. Alex: Yeah, it it was hot. It was hot Tuesday. so like I don't know that there's much preparing you can do for that type of for that type of weather. Jason: Unless you intentionally probably go out and play and do it in little bursts, like three to Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: six holes. Good. And then maybe go to nine holes and then you spread out over a week. Obviously hydration was super critical, which we almost had a little issue, I think. luckily Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: that was not a problem. but I think it's just a slow acclimation, but gosh, even in the shade, you couldn't get cool. Usually if you get in the shade it feels a little cooler out there. Nothing. I mean it was just too damn hot until until the evening, till we were about pretty much closing up the round. Alex: Yeah, and and there just wasn't much wind. I mean it was it was just it was a hot day. Jason: Yeah, it was very stagnant. I think even the day after still felt one twenty, but at least there was a little bit of more breeze, but it was miserable. Like even when I went Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: to pick up Miles the next day, I was sitting in the shade and I'm just like it's balmy. Like I it's it's it was almost felt like sauna heat where Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: you it I don't want to say it's hard to breathe, but you definitely could feel it laboring when you're just even breathing normal. Just like, Wow, this air is Not good. Alex: Yeah, that's that I think that's a really good way to put it because I've played I had a job that I was running out in Palm Springs and I would go out there and play. And it's hot. Like I don't know if that your phone can be in the cubby in the shade. You go to grab it and the temperature thing is on your phone. Like it's that hot, but it doesn't feel that hot. Like Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: it was never it never felt like you were about to like die. But when you go play rounds where it's balmy sa s kinda sauna like you're like it's hard to breathe. It's hard to bend over and grab pick up your ball from the cup. Jason: It was rough. Yeah, and Even though I've been back for a couple of weeks, it still was like I still haven't even gone out into the range. I did no prep work, except for I think one little round I did after vacation, like literally just get got nothing going on, went out and played. Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: Which I s find out feeling pretty good. Did the little El Dorado tournament, the little scramble. Alex: Yeah. Jason: that one was bad. Like I Alex: Yeah, we talked about that a little bit. Yeah. Jason: I just couldn't find anything. Yeah. That one was bad. even Don can attest to that 'cause he he pla I played with him those couple times and it was just it definitely was uncharacteristic of me, even though I'm not like the greatest, but you could tell it's like I was not even close to what I can potentially do. And then well, we played Tuesday and there was moments, but There is just something there I just like couldn't put a pin upon it because I felt like my swing was feeling good because the way I gauge it is after a post round how my body feels. Because Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: I know what it felt like before when I was finishing all my rounds, where my aches, where my pains were, and every round I have felt the good muscle soreness, which also tells me I'm not getting out enough. Like I'm like the good gym workout sore. after a round and there's no severe pain like in my usual spots. So part of it's a credit to the guy with IGP getting my swing mechanics better and then obviously getting myself in a better place for that. But yeah, there's just something about when it's really hot, that whole focus is a totally different level. And then I think we j texted back and forth just or even talked about it that day. When you're in a scramble format. I know I have a weird switch that goes on and off about playing versus just like I'm going out solo for myself. I don't know if that's the same for you, but there I don't know, there is something different mentally going into a scramble versus just playing solo. Alex: There's there's a hundred percent something different about playing in scramble. I actually don't like playing in Scrambles much. two-man stuff like what we did is is fine. but even that, if we switched our order, I must say five holes in, because Jason: Yes. Alex: I I don't do good as a second, third, fourth shot. Like I need to play my shot and just That's just it and fully commit to it. especially putting. I hate seeing people's putts. And it it doesn't it it has nothing to do with the caliber of putter in front of me. Cause that's what a lot of people would be like. well, if you've a if you have a bad putter, it gives me a bad read, it has nothing to do with that. You can literally have Scotty Scheffler putt front of me or Cameron Young, like one of the best putters, Sam Burns, best putters in the world. You can have them putt right in front of me and give me the exact line and burn the edge and I will miss it by a a ton. Like it has nothing to do. Cause because I read putts different than you read putts different than Colin reads putts. We've talked about that. Like I putt with pace. And if I see someone lag one in, then I hit it on their line or a little bit higher. And I I'm high on the hole or I'm low. It's just it's not. I don't like seeing putts. So I'm it's funny because like in a lot of scrambles, I'm usually the A or B player and they're like, have them putt lasts because they're better under pressure. I'm like, No, I'm worse. Or if I'm in that position, I literally won't watch a single person. I'll turn around, I'll walk, I'll be looking up, I'll look everywhere else other than at that ball. I can't stand it. Jason: Yeah. No, I feel I think and I felt like I was in general doing a little bit better when I was playing first and then we switched. I didn't think anything of it, but it's like there is something weird being first versus follow because obviously you're first you maybe there's a little less pressure because you're like, I got potentially a backup and then you know, seeing the first person go and then their shot was Iffy and then it feels like you've gotta put a better hit swing to make sure you produce to make sure you're not, you know, falling behind or in a bad spot, which again it's a mental check that you're like, okay, Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: I kinda put that aside. the putts, yeah. The same with the putts. It's like I watched some of yours, but then I was just like, gosh, I saw him go this way, but like you said, the style of the putt, the pace, however you like to put it. is different and so I try not to get caught up in that and just try to find my lines. I know there's a couple I just yanked just from a bad stroke, but it was really hard to gauge my line Alex: Uh-huh. Jason: and where I wanted to go with it out even after seeing what yours did because again we we definitely strike it differently. Alex: Two we have two very different putting styles. Colin and I are the exact same. And that's why I say it. It has nothing to do with caliber of player. Like Colin and I have played in Scrambles before and we're not as good as you would think. Because we putt very different too. We chip very different, right? Like we just we play golf very different. And I think that plays a lot into all of that. And I think I think that's the weird part, is like You can say, I have to go set if I'm going second, like there's no fallback. Like I have to hit a good shot if I'm this with that. I think I'm bad when I'm going second because of that. But that like first, it's not that I like think, I have someone behind me that can. It's just like I want to free up my partner. I'm better in that mindset. I need to hit Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: a good shot so that I can free up my partner than I am in. Well, my partner didn't hit a good shot and they need me. Like I'm just a very Yeah, it's a weird mindset for me 'cause I don't think the two are that different in respect to like having to feel like you're being clutch. But Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: I guess they are. I I don't know. But Jason: Yeah, you made a good point there. It's just if you're first, or you know, we've even started to strategize. Obviously, you know, I don't have I don't really have the length better than what I used to, but I still don't have the length at obviously to play eight thousand yards. But learning to be more positional and strategize around Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: the course and you know, it didn't always work because I just didn't get get good swing on it. But there were a few holes where, okay, let me just put something up there safe. Get it just a smooth, easy swing or whatever it was I did and just get one up and play and then that freed you up a little bit to Alex: Yeah. Jason: go for or maybe just give it a good different line. I don't know, whatever your it was in your brain after like, okay, we got one safe. Alex: Yeah. And we talked about it during the round because you were saying that your body was fatiguing a little bit. and I was certainly getting it a little like I could feel it. And I told you, I was like, dude, I'm hitting two extra clubs right now. Like, there is I got to a point that I was hitting I can't remember, it was a par three and it was short. I think it was like one fifty or something like that. I took an eight iron at it. Yeah, Jason: Yeah, towards the end. Mm-hmm. Alex: I took an eight iron at that and put it on the green like. Pin high. Like I just it was one of those ones where I like, if I can take a half swing and put the least amount of effort into each swing right now, that's gonna service me better long term than me trying to get a pitching wedge one fifty five, which is what it Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: should fly if I swing at full. But I I just it was probably around I started playing. I started playing better around hole seven and I think that's about where I started kind of like, Okay, I'm just gonna take half swings at everything and I just started actually striking the ball better. Jason: Yeah, that's and I even tried to do that ha after the turn. It's like, you know what, let me just dial it back a little bit and then try to do it. But the fatigue for me, it wasn't like food or hydration 'cause I felt fine there. It was almost like I said like the sauna feel. Like my ar body, ja arms just the muscles just felt like jello. It was just weird. Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: Just I just feel like I couldn't get a good feel of my body to engage and Alex: Interesting. Yeah. Jason: It could have been preparation, it could have just been a number of reasons. It was it was just weird. Alex: Well, and that's you add in the preparation side of it and we talk about the hydration, but there's also the food. Like, you don't think when Jason: yeah. Alex: it's this hot, I need to make sure that I eat. I need to make sure you gotta make sure your body is ready on all levels. And like I had a protein bar that day and then I was supposed to have a really good lunch because that was the day that we were doing a bunch of interview prep and we ordered in lunch and I ordered in some like Steak Powerbowl with quinoa and lettuce. Like it was supposed to be a really good like nutritional lunch. Yeah. Jason: That actually sounds really good. Alex: And and that that order, the company didn't service it for some whatever reason. So our HR director ended up going and getting us like dickies. And I don't eat bread. So I get this dickies and I have to eat the meat out of it. Jason: Yeah. Alex: And I mean, it's like maybe half pound of meat and then chips. Like that's what I had for lunch. So I had a protein bar, a little half pound of chicken breast with a sliced chicken sandwich and chips. That's all I had eaten up until when that cargo came around at the turn and I grabbed a protein bar. Like I so I maybe was in five hundred calories for the day and I'm sweating and I'm exhausted and like I didn't I did not prepare properly for the heat from a nutrition standpoint. Jason: Exactly. I I I mean I had lunch but I was running errands before the match, so it was Chick-fil-A. So filled up, but it wasn't the best. And then we got there and just that heat and again that heat was just sapping us. So it's like, Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: man, maybe you should have gone to the clubhouse or somewhere and gotten s a little something extra. Even if it was two extra protein bars or was something. Because when it sh it wasn't till like the turn. So we were what two and half hours in. Well, they came earlier but we like, no, we're good, which that was our mistake. But we probably should have grabbed something. Alex: We were on hole nine. And yeah, the car girl, this the second time was on hole nine. Jason: Yeah. So didn't even think I mean the water was plenty, so we were good there. but yeah, I think just food wise, people were prepared with the more the the more high energy, more sustaining energy Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: performance bars and things like that, which I usually keep some in my bag but I've just haven't played enough to like justify buying more and s keeping them in there. Alex: Yeah, that's that's the thing. Like my bag hasn't been set up the way that it was. last year when I was playing so much. Like I don't have food in there really. I used to have a ton of food in my bag. And I just like I'm gonna go play right now. I have a protein bar right here that I'm gonna eat. I'm gonna go grab we made bratwurst last night. I'll probably grab one of those and eat it while I'm on my way to the course. Just get a nice little pop of protein. and I'll I'll eat during the round. Like I'll I'll just like and luckily we're playing at eight thirty versus four thirty. So quite a bit different. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. It's still gonna be very hot apparently today. Alex: Yeah, it's I'm over this heat, man. I am over this heat. We're getting to the end of it. We're schools right around the corner. Man. It feels like that flew by. summer is eleven weeks. and we are on week ten of that. Jason: I know we we go back like we don't go back next week, but it's the week after. And like I said, I'm behind on so many other different things. I've just been so lazy. and I think I might even have like I don't know if allergies hit a little bit harder over the last couple of weeks or did I maybe got a little weird bug because extra congested and then I've had like a just a subtle cough. And just like something I've always had to like clear out over the last week and a half. So I don't know if I've Alex: Yeah. Jason: did get a little weird summer bug or congestion's just was bad and just the drainage is just making me feel off. Alex: Yeah, it's I I don't know. I've noticed a lot of more people have been have been sick. we were actually with Andrew last night. and Andrew is one of the guys that played on on Tuesday. we were all at the community pool last night and we were talking about it. And he was like, Have you started editing the video? And I was Yeah, I've I've compiled all of it and I've done probably, you know, two thirds of whole one. And he was Yeah, you're gonna hear a lot of and kind of imitated like that kind of coughing up a loogie and spitting an out type sound from me. He's like, You're you're gonna hear a lot of that from me. I was like, it's just and I like I've been a little congested this summer. Like I I think it's a mixture of like we really didn't have a bad winter, so nothing none of the bad allergies kind of froze off. And Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: this summer has been like it it was like so mild. Until all of a sudden it wasn't like the rain stopped because we had a really wet May and even June. Jason: Mm. Alex: And like the rain stopped around Fourth of July, and it was just like blistering hot immediately. And it's been like four weeks of just that blistering hot. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. And like that first day in Italy took me a couple of days to get over, but I was I was bad. Alex: Yeah. Jason: Like I've never felt that bad and I don't even know how long and it just came out of nowhere. And just like, what the heck happened? So I don't know. Weather can play a key role in how you feel regardless how much medication and stuff you keep up with. Alex: Yeah, and I think that's part of it is weather's it's hard, you gotta plan. You gotta plan for cold weather, you gotta plan for for warm weather. But yeah, so summer's coming to an end. The kids are getting back into school, getting back into the swing of things, which means logistics and traffic and Casey and I have to figure out what we're doing. So our school district for Grayson's been in school now for five years and has always taken the bus or has been able to take the bus. And they all of a sudden Deemed that our neighborhood is within the walkable zone to the school. So they took the bus service away, which really sucks from like multiple things. One, logistics. Two, Bella was so excited to take the bus with her brother. And she's going into kindergarten. And she was like, We haven't told her yet that the bus is not gonna be coming around. Like, so anyways, this school, the school, you can't. I haven't looked at the times. I don't know if they shifted them. But if they haven't shifted them, the school doesn't open like to drop off kids until seven thirty or seven forty. So I don't know how I mean Casey can handle that, I guess, and still be at work by eight. I cannot. I work, I work forty-five minutes away, an hour away with traffic. So there's no way I can drop off. If I do that, I'm not leaving work until six. So then you throw in another dynamic of the middle school side of it with trip now that he's going into middle school. And we have another school that starts, I think actually later and gets out later than Bellow School's like his school might not open up to drop off until eight fifteen. Well, who's gonna handle that? That means I'm not getting to work until nine. So like I don't know how working parents can take kids to school. Jason: It it's a hot mess. And I'll I'll get into our logistics here in a little bit about all what we had to go through. but just kind of I wanted to wrap up because it's been sitting on my head brain. the last round I just played, it was a little scramble, but it was Ocallum and it was definitely a different feel because I think comfort on the course helps with the confidence. And then again it's a mental thing. I went back to a blade putter that I've had for like a year. Just I bought it mostly just for aesthetics. It's just been sitting there and night and day. I mean I drained like three l super long putts, hit a couple great gauge like slippery putts and pa everything was just like where did this come from? Like it was one of my best putting rounds in probably a year. Alex: Yeah. Jason: and overall striking was way better. I except for the driver. Now driver was still being weird and yippy. but irons were feeling pretty solid. I kid you know number eight Hit a bad tea shop, was still in play. And then had a chip out. And then we were still like almost like 180, 190. took my six iron, put it on the green from like one ninety out. So there's definitely like some positives that were starting to come out of it. But to go on the mental side of it, I definitely felt different in my head. kind going back to what you talked about last time and what the guys have always talked about, this think box play box setup Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: and started just thinking about my shot, visualizing my shot and then what my plan is. And a lot of it came back to what we talked about for the last week was tempo and just figuring out that pattern. And then doesn't matter what happens One of my biggest issues I've always struggled with is just committing. And so I just let on my plan what I was gonna do and I just committed. And that w freed Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: up and just said, you know what? If it goes in, great. If I hit it well, great. But I committed to what I wanted to do and not try to alter it as I swing, which I struggle with a lot. Like I'm going up, think about backswing, all of sudden, I need to do this, or I gotta think about this. This is I gotta go up and just make solid contact or whatever it is my swing thought is for that moment, but Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: a much different style of play for me. And that comes down to Alex: Yen Jason: just the whole mental component or part of it anyways. Alex: Yeah, I'm glad you reeled us back there on that agenda item because that is that is critical. And that's actually something I'm gonna take into this round right now. is that commitment? Cause I think I started doing that when I started playing good again was around hole seven. And a lot of it I think came from I really just started like trying to visualize the shot and just like swing easy and commit to it. And because I was pulling everything the first like five holes. Absolutely pull Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: everything. And I have a really bad habit of just not committing. And I I mean I think that's a very obvious statement that anyone will be like, Well, yeah, no doubt. None of us are pros. All of us struggle to commit because we missed the ball. And but like if I'm say aiming left edge of a fairway for my shot, thinking, okay, I'm fading this ball in, I'm not thinking about that 90% of the time in my head. And what I'm thinking about in my head is. Well, don't double cross this because then you're gonna be in the junk. Or you better Jason: Mm. Alex: not miss, or you better not miss this left. Like you're taking a very aggressive line. Don't miss it left. And I think, yeah, in your head, you're like, well, it's obvious. Of course I'm aiming here, so I can't do that. I'm I'm essentially it's adding a constraint. Like I can't do it. So and that's fine to add the constraint, but you can't be thinking about that over the ball. So what I start doing was Focusing the other way of okay. I'm I'm sitting there kind of almost doing that Jason day in my head of visualizing my ball flight. I'm seeing I'm seeing a left to right curve here, blah blah blah. I think we had one hole. I took an eight-iron and I told you I was like, I'm just gonna hit a really high soft cut to the screen. And that's exactly what I did. But four holes before that, I couldn't even. Fathom doing something like that because I just like it's so hard to commit to a shot. So I say all that to say, like, I think when you go play a course like an O'Call that you're so familiar with, because that's Westrich for me. Like, when I get on that course, I don't have to, it almost turns off half my brain. It turns off the side of Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: the brain that like worries about the bad shots because I know my line, even my bad shot, is gonna be safe. Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: So I know my line and I can just commit to the shot and it it helps you it does really help you be a better golfer. And so I'm sure there's a component of that for you at Ocalo, like you were saying. Jason: Yeah, definitely. There's it's like you're ver I'm very familiar with the greens. even though they're not I mean they roll they've been they actually roll really nice, but they're a little bit slower. But Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: but just walking up and just knowing what to expect. the start lines, like honestly I think that I've said this in the past, I think for I never really tested my putter stroke, but the The blade actually does pr better for me aside from the broomstick that I had, which obviously was a fa a fad. so I know there was a huge difference there. Alex: Hey, you s you say it's a fad. I still hold today, we've known each other for we were talking about this yesterday, what, seven years? Been playing golf together for Jason: Yeah, I think yeah. Alex: seven years. I still think the best putting I've ever seen have you is with that broomstick. And I know I I give you a lot Jason: Yeah, I mean it it is it is the best. Alex: of I give you a really hard time about using that thing just because it's fun and it's an easy target. But like if we're being like If we take all things out and we're being real and Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: having, you know, honest conversation, that putter was definitely the best that I've seen you put. Jason: I know and there are parts of me it's like, do I go back? Just because it it it's like if okay, so I guess it depends on, you know, the goals and everything. It's like if I was Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: playing in tournaments and wanted to actually improve my score, then it would probably be a direction I would really want to go, which I still want to improve my score, but you know, at what cost? You know, so Alex: Think it's I think it's like anything. It's you know, the older I get, the more I lean into like we need to just make things easier. And that goes for anything in life. Like I Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: don't do anything in life unless it's gonna make my life easier. Like and that doesn't necessarily mean I'm doing less work. I can go pick up a photography gig and make $500. And does that make life easier? Absolutely. It gives me $500 that I can go have dinner or do something else. And I can go pay for a person to come clean the house for all I care. Like if it it makes my life easier, I will do it. Sometimes that means putting in a little extra work. And the older I get, the more I'm like, I apply that to my life of I'm looking at things from this like venue of or avenue of. Is it positive or negative? If it's positive, cool. Let's do it just to make make my life easier. Cool. And like I love my clubs that I have, they work for me, but I do have blades. My next set probably won't be blades. Like I'll go to a cavity back so I can Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: have some more of that forgiveness. I'm just right now I'm I'm still striking the ball fine, so it doesn't matter. Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: I don't I could swing a driver and a driver would 100% onto good shots be great because I can hit my driver 300 plus yards. But it also goes left and right, which makes my life harder. Jason: Yeah. Alex: So I just swing the mini driver. Jason: Yeah, I mean i you're funny, it's like you say that. because, you know, obviously I've got the bets, which I've actually been striking really well. as Alex: Yeah, I thought so. Jason: a general trend. I mean, well, we had two long par threes, put it on the green, like Alex: Uh-huh. Jason: with the five-six iron, like even when I've been messing around, my six iron's been pretty dial like so for me I've always been on the mindset of Most players, I shouldn't say every player, most who's athletic enough and has practiced enough with golf can probably use any set they really wanted to. you just gotta Alex: Yeah, I think so. Jason: put the work into it. And I'm struggling right now because this is the summer I've probably done the least work towards golf Alex: good. Jason: in all of my life. So there's I've went down the rabbit hole. It's like you just said it, make life easier. Should I look at you know, hollow body and the five, six, and then cavity backs in the lower set, just again, just for that little bit of extra added forgiveness. Make things a little easier, shaft out a little something different. It's a different combination is just because I'm feeling good with my body post-round because I'm swinging differently and then I still want to be able to get the the numbers that are always you know dialed in for whatever you're looking Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: for. And I'm pretty getting pretty good at at understanding where my numbers are and I'm happy where they are. if I wanted to chase distance, obviously there's tech to really chase distance, but I've been using Claude or Gemini or whatever. Mo I think it's mostly Claude. just saying, Hey, this is where I'm at. This is kind of where I'm seeing my game and numbers and all that stuff, and just seeing what it says based on data and all the different components. and then one of the things that did kind of connect was I should probably look to a lighter shaft, not a different flex, but just a little bit lighter to help with fatigue. Mm-hmm. Alex: Yeah, swing weight lighter. It's it's funny you say it. So Colin is gaming a set of Ben's old mirrors right now. he had a tournament this week. Actually I need to text him and but he has a tournament this weekend. He was like, I'm gonna just try these out. And he likes his clubs. I don't know why he's trying them out, but whatever. Anyway, so when we were together on two Thursday working out, I swung one of Ben's old mirrors and I was like, God, this feels like lighter. And Conn was like, the funny thing is, I think it's probably pretty close to your clubs, like weight wise. And it just shows you like how the weight, this that's where the swing weight comes in. Like his Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: swing weight was so like it had to be two to three weights lighter than mine. Like it's noticeable. I was like, wow, this is like really light. So it's like when you talk about lighter, and you can go down a rabbit hole of it might not be lighter physically, but you want it to swing lighter. So you get that swing weight. And that's where you talked about maybe graphite shafts that I think are you're a candidate for. I think I truly think like you could go driver, mini driver, seven wood, and maybe even a four and five hybrid or four hybrid. I think you're a great candidate for like you said, a blended set with like I always go to Strix on 'cause I think So many amateurs get fit for strict zone. They're so good. You can go get ZXI7s and ZX I5s and Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: get a get a four, five, six and the five. And that those are great clubs. It's still a cavity back, but it's kind of a juiced cavity back. Like it'll it Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: has some pop to it. So I mean, I think I think at your caliber of player, and that's the really cool thing about like golf. Like I think if you're a fifteen or more, like you're kind of stuck playing those like hollow bodies because if you're that level of player, you're probably needing distance and you're not really worried about shot shaping. Like you just want to hit the ball straighter and that's what those clubs are made for. I think that like five to fifteen caliber player is really fun to fit and work with. even from like me just talking to my friends and I can see why Colin loves it because I think that's the bulk of the people he sees is kind of in that Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: range. Because there's so many answers for y'all. Like there's like you might have some players that can play more player cavities and they just need a little help at the top of the bag. Give some players that might be really good players. They just don't have distance. So that that's gonna put them in a small little bucket that there's only so many clubs they can pick from. And it's it's just a cool concept of like the players and you're in that. Jason: I definitely 'cause like like I said, we Colin and I talked about it, so I have to set something up because I think I'm in a better spot now to say, Hey, let's look at a little bit of different fitting, whether it's I just commit and say, Hey Colin, like chaffs irons like like I think the average would be around fifteen hundred bucks ish. Alex: Uh-huh. Jason: I just like, hey, set me out, let's figure out like a four five or a five to pitch Alex: Yeah here's my budget. Let's just go get it sorted out. Jason: yeah kind of figure out where we're at. and that that that's for steel shafts. keeping in the steel range, maybe finding a different steel that works, right? because they said if you go too light you lose control, it gets whippy, et cetera, et cetera. And I've toyed with that. I've got like a handful of driver shafts that I've just toyed with over the years. I went a little bit lighter, like Alright, let me try something a little bit lighter, still stiff, whatever, but it I have nowhere about what the club is. It feels loose, and so the weight has to stay Alex: Yeah, the the problem the problem with going Jason: there. Alex: yeah, the problem with going too light is you you're you lose your tempo. they Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: when I when I first started getting back in, I like a sixteen, seventeen handicap. I was my swing was so bad, they put like the heaviest driver shaft you can think of in my driver just to like force me to slow down. So you're a hundred percent your instruments are correct, like it it's a balance and that's why like You have to go get a fit and like solve for it, like 'cause there's so many options. Jason: gosh, like I know when we were messing around just a little bit and in the past I've messed around, like, try this head and with this shaft. And I'm like, dude, this just feels picking it up, holding it just like it feels way off. Like some feel Alex: Yeah. Jason: like like a broomstick, like not that much to it. And then other times like they give me a different set of I'm like, dude, there's like a a heavy like brick on the end of this club. And all they did was change the head. Like Alex: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jason: Like I even if a caliber, a tilus, or whoever popped a new head on, it's just like, why does this feel so different? And obviously the mass of the head, all of it. So it's gotta be a blend that works top to bottom. You know, even adding a heavier grip helps kind of balance out that swing weight a little bit, but still keeps the mass up. So I think that's helped. when I got the bigger grips, so it added more weight on the top end. So again. More does that fall in the whole fit process? Who knows? I just know I just need to get a little bit better swing mechanic put you know, things ironed out before committing to a fit. and that's what Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: we left it as. And so I was hoping to get a little bit more dialed in the summer and then maybe end of summer go back in and say, hey, at least let's look at shafts, but now I'm thinking save a little longer and just say, hey, like, let's find a set that's gonna work. And just allow me to play. Like when I'm swinging well, my I feel good with it. My six is going 185, 190 carry. So I'm like, I don't need to chase a 200 yard six iron. At least I don't think I need to. But that that's absurd because Alex: You know, I think I think playing Tuesday showed me like Yeah, when you're playing 7,800 yards, it feels like 8,000. Sure, you need long clubs. Like I can promise you right now, I'm gonna go play this round because I know the course. And I'm not gonna need length. Like I'm not if I'm putting the ball where Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: I need to, like in any of the greens on a par four, I'm not gonna have more than a nine-iron into them. None of the par threes are gonna be more than a seven iron. Like I don't need I don't need length and it's kind of always been the case. Like even the par fives, there's very rare that like ones that you know for sure you're going four and two. So if you're playing it as a part as a three shot hole anyways, like I don't know. I used to like want to get more distance Jason: Okay. Alex: because I was like, it'll help me score better. It's like I mean, I don't I don't need a six iron that goes two ten. Like I think if I swung full, I could probably get my six iron about two ten out there. But right now, like I've pulled all my clubs back ten yards in my mind. Like Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: my eight used to be a one eighty, now it's like a one seventy, maybe even a one sixty five. Like I have completely changed how I swing all my clubs because of exactly what you just said of like I don't need the distance, so let me control it better. Jason: And that's where I still like the blades because there's definitely more control. I feel more confident with it at that end of the pack. So that's why I don't think I'll go any more than like a player's cavity on like my eight, nine in pitch. the seven is a still like that weird blended spot for me where it's like, do I go with the little extra help or can I stay in that player's cavity type component? Which you know, if I'm feeling good and striking it well. The five-six cavity or a hollow wherever it ends up in the future is great. And then the player's side from seven to pitch. Because I've Alex: Yeah. Jason: developed enough sp skill and got better to handle that at that end. Because again, if I'm 150, smooth eight iron, I got control, I can turn it over. which I've been able to do. It's like I can almost I would say it was 65-70% confidence like. If I wanna hittle draw, I can hold a draw with it or fade it if I wanted to fade it a little bit. And that was one of the things I did on hole ten on Oak Hollow right side. Unfortunately, we went the waist tall grass we had to drop, had a tree. And then so Don and were sitting here like he played one low. It was out there somewhere, like okay. So I like, again, kind of freeing myself up a little bit, saying I'm gonna commit to a high fade and hopefully it drops in. And like it's probably the best shot of the day. I stood there and took my eight iron, it was like 150 out, opened the face up a little bit, took my stance just a little bit differently, and I just committed. Like I didn't care if it was gonna hit the tree or anything. Committed, shot up, and we're like, dang, I went a little left, and then like halfway through, it started cutting, and then I was like, okay, it's got the shape. Now's it gonna carry. Cause you know, when you fade, you lose carry and it hit, boom, I don't know where it hit on the green, spun within three feet of the pin. I was just like, damn. Like so that's what I'm saying. It's like I have moments of ability, just I gotta work on the consistency and the mindset and everything that we've talked about to get that repetition and confidence into those shots. In every shot. Alex: Yeah, and again that just takes it takes that commitment and practice and and getting there. So no, I'm glad you reined us back on that one. because I it I wanted to talk about the mental side and it's it's interesting. And I'm glad you got to you got out and played more. You got two more weeks of trying to get out maybe one more time before before school kicks in. And like Jason: I hope. Alex: I said I'm playing today, so hopefully some more golf in in both of our futures. But yeah, if we if we if we talk school. so something that like I guess you've been through because you have two girls and then you kind of live it every day. And granted, I think you deal with mainly juniors and seniors for Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: your classes, right? So I think maybe you see it a little less nowadays. But like that transition, and I've had a lot of conversations about this randomly with with a lot of different people. That transition from fifth to sixth grade is kind of a culture shock. And I think you and I can both remember that from when we were in school. Like you go from what feels like you're still like a baby in in elementary school, like to sixth, seventh, eighth grade, where you know, people have been hiv hitting puberty and talking more and this and that. And then you obviously make the transition from eighth to ninth and of A 13 year old in ninth grade is a vastly different individual than an eighteen year old that's graduating high school and you put them all in the same building. And it I just remember like my first homecoming dance going into ninth grade was like a culture shock. Like you're like, what the heck did I just get myself into? so you have those conversations. So like going from fifth to six, you know, I I think we've talked about a little bit on the podcast, like We're kind of the parents that like we're pretty lenient. Like my theory is exposure of things. Like we've talked about firearms, we've talked about all these things. Like I'm more on the exposure side of if I take away the the fascination and the curiosity around that, it's easier for me to control how they perceive it when I'm not around. So I told Trip, you know, going from fifth to sixth grade, I was like, look. I was a fifth grader, I was sixth grader, I was a seventh grader. Like, I get there's gonna be a fascination with like I feel like I'm a big kid and I can use these bad words. Like I'll make you a deal. If your siblings aren't around and you use the words in right context, I'm okay with it. Around me. Like I can help teach you how to use them because I I do the photography for the lacrosse and all this. I I hear them talk on the field and they're all dropping F bombs everywhere. They're all they miss a shot and it's you know, Jason: Hmm. Alex: they're saying all these words. So it's like it they're not hiding it. So it's like, I know you're gonna do it. So let me teach you how to do it properly. That way you at least sound good doing it. That that's the philosophy that I run. So It it's hard to go from fifth to sixth grade and like all these things are changing. Like we had to have the puberty talk with him six months ago. We have like we're starting to have these conversations with him. You're starting to watch these TV shows that now you know that he knows what's happening in the TV show. And it's that awkward moment something happens, and like Casey and I just sit there like waiting for him to feel awkward because like we know, and then Grayson's sitting there watching and he it's way over his head. Jason: Yeah. Alex: Yeah. Jason: it's funny though. Yeah, you got the blend. You know, there's still babies elementary school, get into middle school, puberty, the leashes lengthened a little bit for pretty much most parents, Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: except for the ones at shelter, which that's a whole nother like episode. and then they grow up to get to puberty, then What we see is when they go through sixth, they're obviously figuring the out. Seventh, like, okay, we're at this bot. Eighth, they're like, I got middle school figured out. Puberty's starting to rage. But then they're thinking, I'm the big man on campus. And that Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: big man mentality carries over to high school. Then it's like, no, you're the little babies. And your maturity level is still up and down all over the place for the mass. I mean there's a few that are above everybody else, just wow, you're really mature, you know how to handle it. It could be parenting, it could just be who the kid is. But it's funny just seeing the the spectrums of the kids change as they go through those different levels. It's like, you're a baby. Even within my class years, I see them September, August, and then by April, they are different. And then I see him again as senior just in passing. It's like a totally different kid. So Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: it's funny seeing how the growth pattern like changes. so with the girls it was different because Most of that time, I mean, I don't know, girls just their mindset's different. Like we've talked about this, like yeah. Alex: Well you also had COVID years for them. I forgot about that 'cause they're Lexi and Reagan's age, so Jason: but it's already different, like between Miles and the girls. Just I I don't know again if it's the era we live in, experiences we lived in and now we're changing our direction and philosophies, maybe, or literally it's because he's a boy and there are girls. Like they're programmed so differently. Alex: I think that's a factor. Mm-hmm. Jason: And but yeah, kinda going back to something you said, it's I'm all about exposure. I don't shelter unless it's obviously like, okay, you're not quite ready for something like that. Like and like the extreme radar radar movies like Deadpool, like the violence, the gore. Like, okay, we'll dial that back a little bit. But I'm not opposed to exposing them to certain things a little bit sooner Alex: Mm. Jason: or it's technically by the industry it's rated appropriate for them, but Alex: Yeah. Jason: I'm not gonna shelter them like other parents, like there was one that just Red Panda I think got Alex: Mm. Yeah, yeah. Jason: a lot of negative press because most of the moms were like, my gosh, talking about everything that's going on with the girls and how it make it portrays them. It's like, no, don't tell not to watch it. But if it's a life experience that is related it relating to what they're exaggerating in the movie. Alex: Yeah. Jason: Teach them. Alex: Yeah yeah. Jason: That's the thing where I think a lot of we again going now back to like the parents, they're both working, they're both not around. So they leave it up to us, the teachers, to almost raise the kid on top Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: of what we have to do as our job as far as regular stuff that we need to do. So it it's a totally different dynamic now and I mean to me it's just parents have to be not I don't say more involved, but involved in a way that you're not completely sheltering expose them, teach them. Alex: Yeah. Well I think and take look take everything I say with a grain of thought. I'm a thirty-six going on, thirty-seven year old that has been a parent for eleven years. Like I I I haven't been through through everything. and I'm still learning and I was a I was a kid raising a kid and still to some extent am kid raising a kid. I'm I'm on the younger side of parenthood. And I think You know, i every kid's gonna react a little bit different. And I think we just all forget sometimes what it was like to be like their age and it's just one of those like they're navigating life and we are there to help them navigate life. So we have to give room to ask questions and stumble a little bit. And that's where, like you said, like I think you slowly bring up and I I We have gone from like the age of call it the baby boomer generation raising kids to millennials raising kids to whoever's behind millennials and like you get that the whole gentle parenting conversation and and that sheltering. And it's like I'm I I fall in line with you of look, like there's there's obviously parameters, like you said, Deadpool still not gonna let trip watch. Cause it's just over the top gory. Like it it's just it's gory to be gory. Like there's no like and it's funny, don't get me wrong, like I love Deadpool. I it it's fun to watch. there's some that I know have more of like the sexual type s Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: content. I don't let him watch that because it's just it's unnecessary. But or have we been watching all the Marvel movies that are all PG thirteen? Absolutely Like I'm gonna let him watch that kind of stuff. That's like you're gonna hear bad words, you're gonna see some fighting. And it is what it is. Like it's fine. And I just think we have to remember and give grace. Like we were there and we need them to be able to come to us and ask questions. And I'd much rather him come learn it from me than go learn it on the internet. Jason: gosh, yes. Yeah, that's I think a lot of the cultural problems that we have. yeah, just I know there was a point where the girls are growing up. I was letting them watch something and then or a genre of something, let's say call it Marvel. I don't know whatever it was, I don't remember, it might have been Marvel. and so people were like, Well, why do you like I've explained to them, we've talked about it, just like it's make believe, right? It's a world that we don't re Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: we don't have, like superpowers and things. Alex: Yeah. Jason: So it's f fake in the sense that you know it's obviously the cussing and the fighting stuff is real, but the overall story, Alex: Yeah, yeah. Jason: like so they understood it. We just had conversations with it. but again, have those conversations, like just Be open, let ask, and then just be truthful. But obviously if you have to white lie just to squirt around certain things, that's fine. I mean every parent has to white lie. Like it's part of parenting. Like Alex: Yeah, absolutely. Jason: 'cause you one, you're protecting your kid, but two, it's like we've said it's like maybe they're not ready. And every kid's different, so some kids it might be ready. Like I know the girls, both of them their heads I don't know, or already programmed differently, like comparing all three of like at this age, they all three different personalities. Girls are on one side a little bit more and then Miles is like a completely he is a boy. And so Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: be curious to see how he grows up. One, obviously we're in a different era and then different experiences. My experience just how we're gonna approach things differently. But yeah, we'll see how it all unfolds but I just believe like find that moment, make sure you may if you need to screen something, screen it and then let watch it. Or ha you know, again just have those conversations if you end up having to watch something together for the first time. So Alex: Yeah, it's i i it's just navigating it is tough and like I said, that's why I wanted to get your opinion 'cause you've you've been you're uniquely qualified, right? You you've been through it twice and you also live it every day working at high school and seeing it. But yeah, it's just I was talking to Trip the other day about, you know, you're ready to go to middle school and like you can just see the the anxiety, right? And it's not necessarily I th I don't I think people equate anxiety to bad. You can have good and like we should all be a little anxious in life. Like if we're pushing ourselves and getting out of our comfort zone, we're gonna be anxious. So I I don't necessarily equate like his like anxiety to, this is a bad experience. Like, no. He he knows that it's a step up. He knows that there's gonna be bigger kids and he knows there's gonna be new dynamics. so it's like just educating him. And I'm trying to educate him and prep him like two of his best friends are really big into soccer. Like they play on the Olympic development team local here, like and Trep obviously plays lacrosse. And I was like, well, like as you Like in elementary school, every everyone's friends with everyone. I said you get into middle school and things start to change. Like, Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: one, you gotta start to fall in line with like your sport. That's just kind of like naturally there's gonna be crossover. I'm not saying you and Ben will never be friends, but like me and my best man, like we were in totally separate groups and there were years that we barely hung out. And he we came back after college and like we were still best friends and He was the best man my wedding. Like, so like you don't have to not be friends with them, but things are going to change. And you're gonna and then I was like, at some point, I know you're getting close here. It's like girls start to become a little bit more of a priority. Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: And your buddies are gonna want to go hang out with a girl instead of you. And like, so I'm trying to like prep him. But there's only so much like prepping I think you can do. Like, I think that's an experience that you have to walk through yourself. So like I'm just praying that we prep him the right way and like educate him. Like if if someone asks you if you want drugs, you say no. Like don't don't do it. If like if an eighth grader or someone is saying, like, do you want to do this to that? Like, just think. Think before you do. But like also Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Alex: go live life. So it's just a it's a hard dichotomy to balance. Jason: It's funny, it's like I tell the you know, we're in high school. I'm like, guys, this is high school. Have fun. Don't take it Alex: Yes. Jason: super serious. obviously, if you have a goal and you have a like a track that you want to try to get to, go do it, but don't burn yourself out. And that's stuff that you will have to figure out. And that will help you. And then when you get to college, again, have fun, but as most of us know, college is unless you're very specific, is just another step of growth as far as just managing time, managing your classes, learning how to think, versus I got a degree in this, I'm gonna do this, because we know you get a degree in this, you end up doing something completely different. Alex: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jason: for the majority, except again if you're gonna be a doctor or a lawyer or that needs that needs the specific tiers to get to that next Alex: Yeah, yeah. Jason: level. Alex: Yeah, and I think you hit it. Like, just go have fun. We've talked it about it on here. I mean, my dad passed when I was 19. So, like, to me, college wasn't that last phase of fun. Right? Like it it was it was just trying to grind through it and get back home as fast as possible to help my mom. Like so like when I go look back at the last time that I truly felt free and like I could just be a kid working through life, it was you know, that fourteen to nineteen range. It was mainly high school in my first year of college before my dad passed. So like I I think you hit the nail on head there. Like you we just want to give them the guardrails to go have fun in a safe way. And it is so hard to know what those guardrails are. It is so hard to know what should I expose them to versus what should I let them learn. It's so hard to see them do stuff they probably shouldn't do. and not immediately pull the reins back because they're not gonna learn otherwise like it is. Now that we're getting into that stage of parenting with older kids and outside influences are a lot more impactful, it it's really hard to to know when to apply the pressure. Jason: Mm-hmm. And when I grew up, like none of the stuff that we have in the world today existed. Like internet was not a thing. Alex: No, I mean we had an internet Yeah, like Jason: cell phones were not a thing. Obviously social media was not a thing. being able Alex: I think Jason: to watch streaming and pick more specific things was not a thing. So we were more Alex: Exactly. Jason: I don't wanna say sheltered, but just there just wasn't exposure going with the rest of the world, which is a good thing in some regards, because you see how the rest of world is and how much better or worse a country has it. But again, us learning how to navigate through all of that stuff. Like we joked about it, it's like we grew up without social media, without all the nuances of it, and where's it and you're going like how the like okay, Instagram okay. Okay, hashtag comment like like that's not our world. You know, it's it's stuff like even Alex: and you br you Jason: simple like that. Alex: Yeah, and you bring up a really good point. Like have you seen Toy Story Five? Jason: No, I haven't. We want to. Alex: So it's hard to hard to have that conversation then. I don't want to ruin it for you. There's a concept in there that you just hit on, and it's like, if you don't let your kid do something, are they gonna have friends? It's like we are big on no social media. Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: They will not have social media until they're probably juniors. And at that point, it'll be one of the per like parental controlled social medias where we can see Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: everything. Because I just think there's too much. Like there's way too much in social media that is that can go bad. Like it it's just so it's the wild west and that's not okay to me. Like there's a level of I can I can control what I know in social media, you don't know. You don't know anything. Jason: No. Alex: so that's the one, like cell phones were not big on, but like my biggest fear is am I impacting their life and holding them back? Because I won't allow them to have social media, but all their friends do, and all their friends are chatting and sharing stuff, and now my child's the one like on the outside of the inside joke because they don't have social media. And am I okay with with causing that? Am I okay? Like we were talking about club lacrosse for trip. And the one thing I told Casey and the other parent group was I'm fine if Club Lacrosse is not right for him right now. But what I don't want is us, the parents, saying we aren't ready to put the commitment in to have to go play tournaments or drive you around to Dallas to practice. If we are the ones holding him back, we need to reevaluate that. We need to give him every chance possible to be successful. So it kind of falls in the same thing of like, Am I holding them back? Okay. And if I am, is this something that I care that I'm holding them back about? Like Is it okay to hold them back? Am I holding back for the good reason? Am I holding back to protect their innocence to some level with the social media? And it's Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: really hard to know if you're being a good parent or if you're just being overprotective. Jason: I that's a fine line. and it's It's a world where you like you want your kid to grow up to be with their friends and be with the age group that they're with, but then it's like, well, maybe we shall hold back a year because I just want to be older. All right. there's Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: holding them back a year so they can be more athletically advantaged. 'Cause parents are so driven on this world today of I want my kid to be the best in the sport. I want them to get the scholarships, I want them to go to college and get the free money, whatever it is. And then, you know, it just all comes back to what's the kid, you know, thinking. Where are they at? they like playing the sport because they just like playing it, or do they want Alex: Yeah, it's Jason: to play it to actually want to excel in it? And yeah, Alex: Yeah. Jason: again, you get to those points where it's like you gotta figure out where that's gonna be. Maddie, Payton was not as much in the sports Matthew's more into sports. She did the soccer, she did the volleyball, and then she did theater. And then it was a line where it's like I told her, I go, This is your decision. But I go, if you wanted to get further along in soccer, you need to commit to it and kind of stick solely with it. But Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: if you want to try volleyball, go ahead and try volleyball, try theater, and she did it all. but then I know later, again, like senior year, junior, whatever it was, she's like, Man, maybe I should have stayed with soccer better or l longer, or more committed to to everything. 'Cause I think she quit club freshman year. I think it was I'm freshman year or eighth grade, so when she was transitioning to everything. She wanted to try different things, which I'm all about, but here's what could happen. And she later said, like, I wish I stuck it out with soccer more. Now, not that she couldn't do the other things, but it goes back to all the logistics. All right, man, you got soccer, now you got volleyball. you're in theater this week. You get spread thin and you're driving everywhere. Logistics is just a nightmare. Alex: Yeah. It's hard. And we live in a day and age, like you said, that you take one season off and all the other kids progress tenfold. and I just think I don't you're you're either telling your kid to sacrifice their childhood to be good at a sport, or you're just acknowledging, like my kid might not be a starter and they might sit the bench for four years. And again, it's like in your head you have to come to the realization or the decision of am I doing what's best for them? Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: And maybe some kids, you are doing what's best for them by pushing them into the sport because maybe they need those cardrails, maybe they need the structure and the practice, or I'll or they'd be a wild kid. Or maybe like maybe it's okay to take a season off and you're just gonna progress less and you're not gonna start. And maybe you don't care if you start. As long as you're doing something. So I don't it's all it's all hard. it's it's balancing the fine line of doing what's best for them. so we're two weeks away from navigating this middle school world and teaching. And I'm I'm glad we have Jason: It'd be fun. Alex: I'm glad we have trip first because I'm more worried about Grayson making that transition Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: with with the autism and my biggest fear is he's just He can make himself an easy target from a bullying perspective because he is just so emotional. Like you Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: can he he cried. I don't think there's a day that's gone by that he hasn't cried in his life. Like he's just his emotional regulation, we're working on it, we're trying to help him. I mean, my biggest fear is someone picks on him. an eighth grader picks on him on his first day in sixth grade and he just shut down and cry. And from there on he's a target. Someone's gonna want Jason: Yeah. Alex: to press those buttons. So like I'm glad we have trip to kind of like ease us into the transition and kind Jason: Mm-hmm. Alex: of maybe show us and teach us what we need to teach them over the next two years, because Grace is Jason: Good. Mm-hmm. Alex: in fourth grade. So that we can then like, okay, we we at least know what we can help walk him through and structure Jason: Mm. Alex: him through. Jason: Yeah, that's gonna be good to help kind of see it, how it develops. And obviously they're two different boys, two different personalities, Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: but it also help kind of guard you of like what's happening in middle school right now? Like what's the trends, what's the fads, Alex: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jason: what's going on, and because it's different from Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: little generation and little generation. It's funny seeing the fads and the trends of the freshmen and then the next freshman or juniors, the cycle comes through and like okay. And then even within the school year, there was stuff that they would say and then it's like all of a sudden it's like, that's not cool anymore. And they've moved on or they've Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: grown up and like, okay. Like the whole six seven thing lasted just this last school year and then by the end of the school year no one was saying anymore. They were just like, it's dumb. Like it was just the fall of or the spring of the year and then the fall, but then by the spring it was just it Alex: Yeah, it was over. Jason: was like whatever. Like it's so who knows? Alex: Yeah, it'll be interesting. So all right. I know Jason: Yeah. Alex: your little one's about to wake up and I've got to Jason: he's up, he's chattering. I can hear him. Alex: I've got yeah, and I've got to pack and get to the course for my tea time. The guys are gonna be up there in about five minutes. So luckily it's all of a two mile drive for me. Yeah, I've I've been getting I've been getting texts. Jason: Yeah, that's what's nice. Like I'll call like, sure, go right down the road. Alex: They're like, I'm leaving. One of them lives up like Van Allstein. He's like, I'm leaving. I was like Sounds great. I will leave in thirty minutes and I will beat you there. Jason: Okay. The dynamic with the group that you're going with, it it's kinda like Andrew was with us. He's like, dude, you guys are there so early. He just like literally shows up just before tea time. He's like, Alright, I'm good. Alex: Dude, it goes back to like the more the older I get, the more I'm like that. Like I'll show up, I'll probably sit in the cart, have my protein bar, drink some coffee, they'll all be warming up. I'll go hit five balls and I'll be like, All right, where's the first tea? Like, let's just go, let's just go. Jason: Yeah, like like when I went out this last week, I hit maybe ten to fifteen and I didn't even hit any woods except a five wood towards the end just to get the the stretch. I mean it was just like Alex: Yeah, there's Jason: a handful of chips, irons just to get the body moving. But as far as like needing to blast every club in the back, like I don't like I we've talked about we don't do that anymore to warm up. That's pointless. Alex: There there was a time in my life there there is nothing that a warm-up is gonna do to fix what's gonna happen in the round. Jason: Right. Alex: Obviously tournament golf is a whole nother animal. I will still prep, but like this is a leisure Jason: Yeah, that's different. Alex: this is a leisure round. I don't care how it goes today. Like I could shoot a hundred and I'm gonna come home with a smile on my face. Like I don't care. I'm just gonna go play. So nothing that I do in a warm-up is gonna change that. So I might as well just save the swings. Jason: Yeah. And kinda to your point there, as we close out, I think that's part of what O'Colo does for me. Why actually I think I do play better. I do. Like I don't always keep score 'cause it's scramble or whatever, but I know I play better. It's cause it's a leisure Alex: Mm-hmm. Jason: round. I know the cores. I I don't care what happens, but I'm still gonna try to Alex: But Jason: play better and work on my things. So it's all about enjoyment. Alex: That's why that's why I'm looking that's exactly what I'm looking forward about this round. Cause this is my old home country club. Like so it's like I know the course, I know the layout, like we're good. Like it it's if we're gonna have a good time, just move on. So all right, man. Well, Jason: Yeah. Alex: appreciate you waking up early for this one. Go have fun with Jason: Yeah, I actually woke up. Alex: Yeah, you woke up. I woke up all of ten minutes before, right right when I got your text. Jason: Ha ha Alex: but Nah man, appreciate it. And as always, everyone, thanks for tuning in. every Wednesday at 7 a.m. Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon, give us a like, subscribe. we have crossed that that year mark and we're gonna keep going strong. We got we'll have Marcus back next week. probably in two weeks, we'll have the guys that we played golf with on Tuesday on, because that's two other dads. and the video that'll be coming from that'll be it'll be a good one. something that to Jason: I hope. Alex: my knowledge no other podcast or YouTube content creator has been able to do on this course that we were able to get access to. So Jason: Yes. Alex: something hopefully new. that video will be coming out in, you know, four to six weeks. so you know, be on the lookout for that one. But Jason, I'll let you know how today goes. Jason: Alright, yeah, keep me informed. We don't need to talk about on the next castle unless we need to. All right, have Alex: All right, man. I'll talk to you later. Jason: a good day.