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- Trent: I'm just gonna be firing off all kinds of random shit. It's gonna be pretty great. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah, okay, it's gonna be good. Trent: It's gonna be dope I got my friend Amanda Jeffery on here today. She was my mentor when I went through the CBG mentorship to learn how to coach nutrition better than I was coaching nutrition before. Amanda's dope. She's very fit and just a boss boss ass human. Amanda, thank Amanda Jeffrey: Lost energy. Trent: yeah, thanks thanks for being here today. how's it going? Of course. Amanda Jeffrey: Thanks for having me. Good. Yeah, going really good. like I was saying, I got a little hand surgery yesterday. So I'm I have a month of recovery for that. yeah, it's been a really tough year, to be honest. Like just with the injuries and like busting my rotator cuff in May before I could even go and do NCC this summer. So I mean, life likes to throw you curveballs and test yourself out a little bit. And I feel like I've I've I accept the challenges and the tests Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: right now and know that life might just, you know, n life isn't all about competing for me right now. And it was kind of a nice eye opener. Like sometimes injuries, I feel like sometimes like Pat Vellner was saying is that you manifest injuries. And I think I was getting a bit burnt out at the end of last season of just, you know, doing monster games and age group semifinals and Desert City and then the open. I got really, really sick around the open and then ended up pushing through quarterfinals. And then I was like, okay, I just got NCC to get through. I'll compete and then I'll take a break afterwards. And then I busted my shoulder at the beginning of May and I was like, there's my break. I got my break because I was asking for, right? Of course break. Trent: There it is, you know. Yeah, force break for sure. So Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Trent: yeah, I I saw you at NCC or no Desert City last year. that was that yeah, that was my last comp. Amanda Jeffrey: Doesn't say, yeah. sorry. Trent: I was I was so burnt out by then. Like because like Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Trent: we did NORCAL, we did INW, we did Wadapalooza, we did another random one, and then we did and then we did Desert City. And I'm like, you know what? I don't want to, I don't even want fitness anymore. This is dumb. Amanda Jeffrey: No, Trent: And I was like, Yeah. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I think we talked about it at Desert City too, where we're both just like, I'm just kinda done right now and I'm just gonna get the weekend. Trent: Yeah. It was like as soon as the swim workout was done, I was like, I looked at Dag's and I was like, I don't I don't want to do this at all right now. I'm like, I'm so tired. Amanda Jeffrey: I think the swimmer band was my favorite. Trent: Yeah. And I was like, I was stoked because I saw that you qualified for NCC and I went down there this year to go coach and I was like, it's gonna be great to see you. And you're like, well, funny story is I'm not going. So Amanda Jeffrey: it was like four weeks before and Hattie was like, Maybe, maybe your shoulder will be good enough. I'm like, dude, if you heard the noises and felt what that felt like, it ain't good. Like, I'm not gonna be back on Trent: Yeah, right. Amanda Jeffrey: a rig in one month. And I mean, I'm almost this end of this month will be six months that I've had the injury, and I'm just starting to be able to hang a little bit from the rig without feeling like my armpit's gonna fall out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you kind of and if you Trent: man, that's like that's that's the last thing you want. It like I mean you kinda need an armpit sometimes, but not all the time. Amanda Jeffrey: It's very unstable. So I'd feel like right now it just feels weak where before it was very painful to hang. So I'm like, that's progress, right? That's that's in the right direction. Trent: Yeah, definitely. So what's funny is I have like this gnarly case of tennis elbow and Amanda Jeffrey: Okay. Trent: I've never played tennis in my life. Right. So it's like I mean I I have like fucking around, but like I like it excruciating pain. Not not even pickleball. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Not seriously though. Pickleball? no. Trent: Like since April. Now Amanda Jeffrey: Okay. Trent: I can make a fist and extend my arm, but like right there, it's like stabbing pain right here. And it's Amanda Jeffrey: man. Trent: the most annoying thing. So it's like I did my first set of chestabar. Two weeks ago since April. You know how unfit I am now? It's like, it's it's Amanda Jeffrey: Yay. it sucks. It's like you can do the movement, but the stamina of it was like as not as good as it was before when you were like training for competitions, obviously, right? Yeah. I'm tired now. Yeah. I don't like this right now. Yeah. Trent: Right. I d I did four and I was like, Mm, I'm tired. I don't know if I could do this for sure. What's up, guys? Today's episode is brought to you by RAR Athletics. RAR got really tired of what was happening in the fitness space, especially in the online fitness space. There's too many coaches out there taking advantage of their people and not giving them the results that they want or need or, you know, just trying to break them. So RAR has a no bullshit approach when it comes to fitness, nutrition, and mindset coaching. They are out there to be there for you. They care and they want to help. So check them out, raarathletics.com. Get on there. Free discovery call. Whether you're looking for nutrition or fitness or mindset or whatever it is, they're there to help. Again, raarathletics.com, check them out. so we usually start every episode with this question, So what does discomfort required mean to you? Amanda Jeffrey: What does discomfort require? Is that what you asked? Trent: Yeah. Yep. Amanda Jeffrey: I mean, what does it require? I don't know. Discomfort. I mean, I feel like without discomfort, there is no change. So I feel like you have to be uncomfortable in certain situations. I feel like life's been throwing me lots of challenges of being very dis like discomforted lately. So I feel like you grow from it. I feel like you need to have. like life slapped you down a little bit in these discomfort moments that's required in life to make you be able to step forward in a different direction or maybe have an identity shift for yourself that you're like, hey, you know what? This isn't working, so let's change it. Trent: Yeah. Love it. Love that answer. That's it hit hit the nail Amanda Jeffrey: That would be my explanation of it. Trent: hit the nail on the head for sure. what sports did you play when you were growing up? Amanda Jeffrey: so I just did equestrian show jumping my whole life. Yeah. Yeah, Trent: Amazing. Talk us through what that's like. Amanda Jeffrey: I feel like a lot of people probably don't know that I'm a horse girl. And I know that a lot of people have like, you know, feelings about horse girls being horse girls. But yeah, I mean Trent: Ha ha ha. Amanda Jeffrey: I literally would like when my mom told me when I was a kid, like I would run around on all fours and like jump over obstacles and make the horse noises, and I had all the horse toys. I didn't have Barbies, I had all grand champions that were just all horse toys. So my grandma got me into riding at six years old out when I lived in Calgary, and that was awesome. I had lessons on like school horses and stuff out there. Then we moved to Lethbridge when I was 10 years old, found a barn here, and then my mom and my grandma actually bought me my first horse, I think at 16. So I like had leased horses before. I got my first horse, his name was Tarzan, he was an Arabian, and we jumped and he was awesome. kept him until he passed away later in life. And then I got another horse at the age of twenty-one. And like anyone that is good with their finances would probably slap me. But I bought a thirty thousand dollar horse when I turned twenty-one. Yeah, I paid him off in about four or five years. I served and Trent: Jesus Christ. Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: like if like horses, anyone out there that rides horses, like horses are frickin' expensive. Like I was probably spending like twenty five hundred maybe plus on just horses. riding lessons, tack, veterinary ferrying services, like just to own your horse and have it in a barn to be fed was Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: expensive. So yeah, I w I rode for a long time, was pretty competitive. Realized later in life, you know, I started bodybuilding and I was like really interested in that. And then I found CrossFit and I was like, I just don't think riding falls in line with my goals right now. So I sold my horse. I haven't had a horse since 20 19 is when I sold him actually right before COVID. but yeah, I didn't really play any other sports. I like horses were like my whole entire life. I'd ride five to six days a week, go out there, you know, s you rig up your horse and tack them up and you jump them and then you cool them down, and you're out there for like a good, you know, three hours pretty much by the time you're done it. So I made the basketball team in grade eight, and then they're like, Yeah, you have to come to practice like, you know, four days a week after school. I'm like, no, I can't do that. Like I have a horse. I'm not doing that. So Trent: Not no way. Amanda Jeffrey: Yes, I really really did that. I didn't dabble in really anything else until I was about twenty one. And then I started exercising about that time. Yeah. Trent: Okay. So you and Annika probably connect over jumping horses and shit, huh? yeah. We're we Amanda Jeffrey: yeah. We definitely can't remember that. I'm jealous of her situation 'cause she lives in Florida, where it's like, you know, I feel like it is a capital of horse jumping down there. So where I live in Little Lethbridge, there is not a lot of opportunities here to like lease or jump or or ride a horse. Calgary's about two hours north of us and they have a lot more opportunities. But again, it's like I don't I we went to Spruce Meadows, which is a big jumping tournament. one of the it's a Rolex competition, the biggest of the year. So we watched it last year and I was like You know, with all the injuries and everything kind of going on in my life right now, it's like maybe I would like to ride again and just part-time kinda fill that in where I can find time to do it. but yeah, Annika knows that it's like once you're a horse girl, it's like you can you might take a break, but you'll be back. Trent: Yeah, for sure. my friend Jen Libby, I've had her on twice. She used to be a horse girl and now she's doing tactical games. And it's like she used to jump and like won national champion something, which was great. And it's like once you're in it, you're in it. It's I I feel like that's one of those sports. It's like you just you you never leave it, right? all the other sports, Amanda Jeffrey: I just love it. Trent: yeah, people are like, you know what, I'm done with this and but like I think horses are di totally, totally different. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. Horse is the just the bond that you have. And I golf a lot too, so that's why I waited to get the hand surgery at the end of September so I could make it through another golf season. And that's more of like a hobby, but it is enjoyable. Trent: So how did you how did you get through the golf season with your broke shoulder and your hand? Amanda Jeffrey: Okay, so when I busted my shoulder in May, I couldn't golf for about a month. So that sucked. I just would go and sit on the cart with like my husband and my dad and my mom and I would just hang out. and then once I started golfing again, I was like, okay, I can like it was totally fine this way. It's just like mostly hanging this way that hurts and aggravates it the most. the hand doesn't bother me unless I'm doing snatches, ring muscle ups, split jerks, and then like cleans in the front rack or like heavy front squats. So luckily that wrist didn't re hasn't really bothered me at all since I haven't really been training that hard. So I mean that was nice. But Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: yeah, the shoulder took a few weeks for me to be able to even swing a golf club again. Trent: I mean least you gotta play some golf, right? And like at least it wasn't a hard stop on Yeah. That's a lot. And golf is that is some hours right there. That's a Amanda Jeffrey: I did. I got 20 games in this year. 20 games. That's a lot. I mean, yeah, you're like out there for about like on average, like four, four and a half hours for 18 holes. And it's every Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm sad girl because Trent: Yeah. That's a commitment. Like you're like, okay, so I guess this is what I'm doing today. For sure. Amanda Jeffrey: I golfed on Sunday. And I was like, so I asked the surgeon, I was like, so probably like a month of recovery, you said? And he's Yeah, and I was and no golf. He's like, no, absolutely no golf. He's like the fourth. Trent: Absolutely not. Amanda Jeffrey: Force you'd bring you no, like not happening. I was like, okay. I won't golf then, I guess. Yeah. Trent: Fine. Yeah. And so how'd you get into golfing? Amanda Jeffrey: my dad has always golfed, so I feel like when me and my brother were like, I don't know, I want to say like 16 to 18, he started dragging us out to this little golf course and got us some clubs, and I mean we sucked. And I still suck, basically. Like I would say now I'm like an intermediate golfer who can consistently score. Between ninety and one hundred, and I'm really, really proud of that. But I had to take Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: lessons. I think I took like three or four lessons two years ago, and it like that is what broke me under a hundred. and now I would like to go back for lessons to break ninety is the goal. But yeah, all of a sudden the last few years, like Mikey, I introduced Mikey to golfing and he started really enjoying it. My dad still golfs like, you know, a lot. And so we just yeah, we just got into it because my dad forced me and my brother to go. At like the age of fifteen or sixteen, and we just went every summer and just didn't let it go. Trent: There you go. That's that's dope. so me and Amanda Jeffrey: But it's real hard. Trent: my wife, we just got married not too long ago and we're talking about moving to Boise and I'm like, Well, I'm just Amanda Jeffrey: yeah. Trent: gonna have to take a I'm gonna have to take up golf because like there's so many golf courses and nice parks. I'm like, I mean this'll be fun, right? I'd like Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. Trent: I've never golfed seriously and back when I drank, like years and years and years ago, we would go and just get drunk, be able to play eight holes and like yeah, eight holes and like, all right guys, you have to get you have to go Amanda Jeffrey: To do the golf cards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we used to do that too Trent: Right. Amanda Jeffrey: when we were young. It's like just like you, you know, I mean, even now when we get birdies, we take some shots, but yeah. We I I I'm Trent: Ha ha ha. Amanda Jeffrey: officially taking a bit of a break from the booze right now. We had a friend's wedding on Saturday and it was a lot of fun. But I woke up a bit hungover and I was like, you know, you just like, what's the point of this anymore? Right? Trent: Mm-hmm. Yeah, like I that's one thing that like I can't even like I don't even want to think about what how it used to feel being hung over. Cause like I'm like I'm two years sober now and it's like best decision of my life. You know, like for sure. Amanda Jeffrey: Yes, congrats. That's amazing. Yes. It is really right. And so that's why I've been thinking about it. I'm like, and my brother's been sober, I think, for just over a year or close to, and like he's like, you Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: know what? Sometimes you miss it like with the parties, but you don't miss how it makes you feel, the hangover the next day, or like maybe I miss a social aspect of it. But I was like, Maybe I'll just try for like two months and see how that goes. And if I don't want to, maybe it'll be six months, right? You just don't know, but Trent: There you go. Amanda Jeffrey: Set small goals and intentions with them and I think they last longer Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: than you intend them to. Trent: when it when I stopped, it was just like, I'm gonna do I'm don't wanna do this for a little while. And then now I'm like, Well let's see how long I cannot do this for, 'Cause like Amanda Jeffrey: Right. Trent: but it's like I I won't go back. So it's like Amanda Jeffrey: No. Trent: it it worked out pretty well. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah, two years is very yeah, you should be super proud of that. Yeah. Trent: definitely. Dev go like going from where I used to be to now. Super stoked. Amanda Jeffrey: Right. Trent: so let's tell let's talk about how you got into the fitness industry. Let's start with that and then let's work our way into how you ended up being one of the dopest nutrition coaches out there. Amanda Jeffrey: Thank you. So okay, so I mean I guess that the end of my horse story kind of connects well with well, I still rode up until I was twenty-nine, so I guess I rode and competed still. But after high school, I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do. And then one of my very close friends, Kira, she went into the exercise science diploma at the college, and I was like, Okay, like that'd be something I'd be totally interested in. So did that, took my two-year diploma at the college, loved it. It was a fantastic course. I learned a lot, had a lot of hands-on work with like, you know, clients or pretend clients. Then I got a job at the University of Lethbridge, so I taught like spin classes and I did like one-on-one training with people. I worked in the athletic performance in the back with a couple athletes back there and just like one-on-one clients in there as well. And then Orange Trent: Awesome. Amanda Jeffrey: Theory opened up. So I got a job at Orange Theory. I was also working at a little side gym doing one-on-one training at this place called Impact. Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: So Lots of fitness stuff kind of stacked up. But yeah, 2016 is when I got my job at Orange Theory. And it was like, I mean, if anyone's taken an Orange Theory class, like your coaching has to be like on the ball, like you learn like Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: time efficiency, like you hand rags out, you were like on the mic off and on, like non-stop through the class. So I mean I've I've thought that taught me how to be a very, very oriented like coach for CrossFit. Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: Did that for two years, got invited or got an offer to coach at a CrossFit gym locally in town, not the one I'm at now, but one that we used to be at. Did that for a few years, got really into CrossFit after the bodybuilding scene, which was like from like 23 to 26. I think I bodybuild it for about three years, and then just Trent: Okay. Amanda Jeffrey: dove headfirst into CrossFit, coached it, and now I still coach a couple classes a week at the gym that I'm following or training at right now. but only like one or two classes a week. So Trent: Nice. Yeah. I've also scaled back coaching because I I have so many remote clients now. It's like Amanda Jeffrey: yeah. Trent: I'd much rather do that than coach classes. I Amanda Jeffrey: yeah. Trent: feel like I get so much more return out of it, right? So I Amanda Jeffrey: Do, yeah. Trent: took I did a mentorship through Coach L from Brute also, which was epic. Amanda Jeffrey: What's yes, I saw that. Trent: Yeah. it was so fun. And he's such a cool dude. So like he made it like It's just like how like me and you were. Like it's like we had like normal conversations, like normal humans, right? It wasn't just like, he's collecting a paycheck. So it was like fuck it was fucking awesome. but Amanda Jeffrey: Right. Like you build a friendship out of these like mentors and people that you like bond with in the same industry, right? Trent: Yeah, and it's like we we bullshit like all the time. He'll text me and he'll be like, hey man, it's like it's it's pretty dope, right? Amanda Jeffrey: you love it. Trent: what yeah, and it's remote clients the way to go. And I'm sure you like I know you know that, for sure. So what got you into bodybuilding and what was the thing that got you out of bodybuilding? Amanda Jeffrey: a friend of mine told me that I should try it and do a bikini Trent: Okay. Amanda Jeffrey: show. And if you have never seen me online, I'm quite like broad in my shoulders. So bikini Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: was not my shape at all. And like every t I think I did like three bikini shows, and the judges r like notes were like too broad, needs to be like tinier cut waist, like bigger glutes, like you know, not as big as shoulders basically, but I can't shrink my shape. Trent: Right. Amanda Jeffrey: so then I went into the figure category and I I was really proud of what I did in the figure category. I did like a drug-free show. I think I got first and second at that show. Then I went to a show that was not drug-free where people could take steroids. I never did dabble with the steroids or any of that stuff. I was completely natural. I went out and got like, I mean, you get your butt kicked by girls that are triple your size because they're taking steroids, right? So you're like, Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I'm bringing a natural package, I'm doing my best. so I made provincials. No. Yes, I made Provincials and Provincials, I think, was my last show because that was 2016. I worked for like 20 weeks with a coach, like really, really hard to bring my best package, and it was my best package. It's the leanest, fiercest that I've ever looked on stage. So I was very, very proud of myself. but I think like top five made it to nationals, and I think I placed sixth or something out of like eight or ten girls. And I just remember walking off stage and being like, yo, I didn't eat ice cream for 20 weeks for that. Like We just got ripped off on our judging. The physique guys were behind and they needed to spend longer time with the physique judging. So we went out there, we got judged over five minutes and then we were sent off stage. And I was like, I worked my ass off for twenty weeks to bring my best package to stage and you didn't even spend longer than five minutes on judging us. So I was just done with it. I like, I'm not gonna starve myself to death. And like I know other people out there that love the bodybuilding world. It's it's great, but you you're still starving yourself, basically at the end, right? Like Trent: Yeah. No matter what. Amanda Jeffrey: I was eating maybe a thousand to twelve hundred calories. I'm Trent: Huh Amanda Jeffrey: I'm a decent 15% body weight or body fat, and I sit at like 153 pounds right now as an athlete. I was 123 pounds when I was on stage and probably like eight percent body fat. Like not healthy. You know what I mean? Like it's Trent: That's crazy. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I looked sick. Like when I look back at those photos, I used to be like, I just want to be that lean again, and I can't, I just like. want like the flattest stomach and whatever. But then when I actually look back now that I'm healthy up here and I look back at that, I'm like, girl, you look like a skeleton. Like you are so sunken in your cheeks. Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: You can see bones sticking out in the front. Like, yeah, you were ripped and you had muscle for sure. But 30 pound difference in what I weigh right now, where I'm 70 plus pounds of muscle mass and 15% body fat is crazy to me that it can be so balanced. Trent: Yeah. That is absolutely crazy. And also like, how fucked up is it that they have legit categories for using steroids? Like, come the fuck on. Like just what the fuck? You know? Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those they just whatever, man. You can take whatever you want. Glen Buterol, a Anivar, like you could take all any of that. I never was interested, but 'cause I would like to Trent: Insane to me. Right. Amanda Jeffrey: have kids. I mean, I'm already almost thirty-seven, so I need to get on having kids, but whatever. I was like, I didn't want to mess up my hormones and my body, but a lot of my clients asked too, like, if I struggle with like food noise or if I like struggle with I guess you could say my relationship with food, and like, no. I don't. I have never struggled with eating or being appreciative of the food that I eat. that was never the case. I think for me, I struggled really, really hard with like body dysmorphia for like eight years past that 2016 show. Like I did look at myself and just think, man, I'm so overweight and I'm so chunky and I just hate the way I look. I wouldn't even wear a crop top or or wear a sports bra. And I think if people looked at what I actually did look like, like it wasn't any of those things. I just believed Trent: Right. Amanda Jeffrey: that I was just like overweight and disgusting. And it was just like, that was hard. Like just to talk to yourself like that, like sucks. Like you don't want to like sit there and be like, you're ugly and you're fat. And it's like what I'd preach to clients. I'm like, if I hear people say that, I'm like, bro, you do not tell your sister, your best friend, your b whoever. You don't, your mom, you don't talk to your mom or your best friend like that. So why should we sit here and talk to ourselves like that? So I had to do a lot of mental growing To catch myself in these very self-sabotage moments and just be like, no, reword that. You are, you are working on your fitness, you're working on improving your yourself and your relationship with yourself. So it took me a lot of years, eight years to get over it. But you know, Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I would just look back at those dumb photos and I'd be like, I just want to be that lean and that that that skinny again, basically, right? And then I deleted all the photos off my phone and put it on a hard drive. And I don't ever look at those photos anymore. So I'm like, good. There's nothing accused me to be like you could be this week. Yeah. Yeah. But it messes Trent: You're just out of sight, out of mind, don't have to worry about it. Amanda Jeffrey: with you. I always tell girls when they're getting into bodybuilding and stuff, I'm like, good for you. Like it's a super huge accomplishment, but like take care of this, man, because I didn't take care of this. And even though Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I love food and I could eat food and go back to drinking alcohol and partying on the weekends, I had no issues with that. I had the issues of my own self-image of myself that's I struggled with the most. Trent: has to be fucking hard, right? And the one of the biggest things that I took away from your mentorship is like just exactly what you said, is I tell my clients, I'm like, hey, if you're talking to yourself like this, would you talk to me like that? Remember that. Like you don't don't fall on that trap of like, I'm fucking up or I'm I'm not doing good, right? And it's like, nope, don't talk to yourself that way because you wouldn't talk to me that way. And if you talk to me Amanda Jeffrey: No. Trent: that way, I'd jump your shit, right? So it's like, you know, but Amanda Jeffrey: I can't even tell you how many people I have helped that have had like a very type A personality, very rigid, very hard on themselves about every little thing that they did. And it's like anytime that I would hear them talk harshly or say they failed or say something was like out of out of sorts, I would just be like, yo, you wouldn't talk to your daughter like that, would you? And then now I talk back to those people who I used to coach or previously coaching, or I mean currently coaching, and they're like, sometimes I'll write in my journal, like, you know. I wouldn't say that to my daughter, so it's time to start c talking nicely to myself, or it's time to start shifting how I'm speaking to myself. And I'm like, it starts with the subtlest cue for them to catch that and be like, Coach Manda told me that that was ruthless. And and I should I would never talk to my my daughter or my mom or my best friend like that. So why would I start with talking to myself like that? So yeah, that's been my famous line for a while now because I just feel like it really does dig deep and connect with people and resonates with them. Trent: Yeah, and it it helps so much from the coaching standpoint, right? Like Amanda Jeffrey: Mm-hmm. Trent: and also I jump people's shit when like say they lift something, they're like, I only did one fifty. I'm like, You did one fifty. Yeah, only what the who the who who gives a shit? Like stop, Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah, only that's awesome. Trent: right? Like you lifted one fifty, be happy with it, right? So like that's Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. It's like, it's not like two twenty like Amy Kringle. It's like, but you're not Amy Kringle, so who cares? Like you're not a games athlete. So be proud of everything that you do in the gym because you show Trent: Right. Exactly. Amanda Jeffrey: up four to five times a week to do your best for what your goals are. You know what mean? No comparison. Trent: Mm-hmm. For sure. Yeah. And working on them working on the mindset is like that's like my favorite part. Okay, so Amanda Jeffrey: So frickin' I feel like it's eighty percent to maybe ninety percent of the battle. Even for like games athletes, for high level athletes that I work with, it's like if you're not working on the mental half of it, you're gonna struggle through it, to be honest. Trent: Yeah. No matter what. And it's it it's so minute about like what it is that you put into the gym. It is all about how you frame it, right? Well, I was talking Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Trent: to Elle about this too, and Elle's like, I was like, what separates a quarterfinals athlete from a semifinals athlete? And he's like, All it is is nutrition. That's it. If you can get that dialed, you're gonna make it because like you have a certain amount of discipline. You have a certain amount of like how you look, how you talk about yourself, how you had just everything that you go about it, right? And I was like That's profound. Thanks, Al. So Amanda Jeffrey: And we're always the last missing puzzle piece. Like I've talked to so many high level athletes and like semifinal athletes that I start coaching and they're Yeah, you were you're just the missing like puzzle piece. And I'm like, yo, we're at the base of the CrossFit pyramid. It nutrition Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: is at the base. But everyone's like, I got a one on one trainer, I got my supplements, I got my gym membership, I got all the clothes that I need. Yeah. You're missing the main piece. Trent: Yeah, I got six coaches, but not a nutrition coach. Right, for sure. how did you know that you wanted to end up as a nutrition coach? Amanda Jeffrey: I think it was kind of interesting. I think it was like okay, maybe around 2016. Yeah, that would have been 10 years ago now, so that makes sense. So 2016, I went back to university. I thought I wanted to be a teacher. I don't. Not the right not the teacher for school for kids, basically. A teacher Trent: Turns out. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: to teach things I'm passionate about with nutrition and fitness, absolutely. But a teacher for like elementary or or middle school, I realized about two years into it that wasn't for me. So I looked online, I was like, well, I'm already a fitness instructor and I'm, you know, I like to toot my own home. I'm pretty good at it and people like me. So I was like, maybe I'll just branch into the nutrition. So I took a diploma online that gave me like nutritional science diploma. So I took that. It was about a s I think a six to eight month course. Maybe it was a year, but I think it was a little bit shorter. graduated with that and then was like, you know, I'm always like wanting to learn before picking up new clients or starting with clients, right? So I did my M2 certification with Mike Molly. So I did like the gut health, the hormone health, what else was there? The metabolism and the practical coaching. So, you know, flo flew through that. I remember messaging him one time at Hattie's first semifinals appearance. And I remember I messaged him and I was like, Are you ever looking for coaches? Like I'm really interested in like, you know, starting like to coach nutrition. And unfortunately they weren't hiring at the time, so I was like, all right, I guess I'll just do my own thing for a bit. took my PN one at that time then, which was, you know, another just another cert and more education. You just learned different things from different different people and sources. So then I would coach a little bit of people like one on one, like that were like just from the gym and just like, you know, through word of mouth. It was like maybe like five people at a time, if that, trying Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: to figure out how I wanted to coach, what I wanted to coach. and then I kind of just like Was done with it for a bit. I went to the college. I took my unit clerk course because I thought I wanted a nine to five job because I've always been like a server and a personal trainer and a coach for group classes. So I was always like had this flexibility of the schedule to ride the horses, to, you know, do my fitness and stuff, which was awesome. But then I got to a point where I was like, would nine to five just be simpler for me at this point? So I did it. I worked at the hospital as a unit clerk in medical imaging for about a year and a half, maybe. And then saw CBG was hiring. I was like, okay, well, they want all this experience. And I don't have all of this experience with like working with 20, 30 plus people at a time, or like have that Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: much experience under my belt. but I was like, hey, you know what? Sometimes you gotta take a chance on yourself. So I was like, I don't see myself working at the hospital for the rest of my freaking life. I can tell that right now. Trent: Ha ha ha. Amanda Jeffrey: This is not where I'm meant to be. This is a just for now kind of thing. So I Yes, it's a prison. I was like, well, and Trent: Right. Yeah. This is a prison. Amanda Jeffrey: like you get up. You have breakfast, you go and work like seven to four, you go to the gym, you work out for two hours, you don't get home till like seven, you cook dinner, you shower, you go to bed. I'm like, this is shit. Like, who wants to live like? I don't love it. I like my flexibility Trent: Mm. There's a what is this? Yeah. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: of being my own on my own life schedule and when I want to fit things in. So so yeah, so then I had my two interviews with Justina. I don't I don't even know. Maybe Justin was on there too, but had my two interviews. And then was waiting, and they're like, We'll let you know by Friday or whatever. And Friday came around and I didn't get a text. And I was like, my God, I didn't get the job. I was like, I'm stuck at the hospital forever. I was like, I'm never Trent: Yeah forever. Amanda Jeffrey: gonna Right. Now and then I think it was like the Monday or like maybe it was like a Thursday and then Friday they text me and I got the job. And I just remember like I wasn't really even that close with everybody in the CT department, but I was like, I got the nutrition job, and everyone's like, that's good, right? And I was like, This is like my dream job that I get to be remote. Trent: Yeah, this is it. Amanda Jeffrey: I get experience. I get to actually work with like, you know, more than a couple clients at a time. So yeah, so then in I think it was January four years ago. It'll be next year. So what is that? Twenty twenty three? Twenty four? Twenty five? Twenty six? No, I think it was twenty twenty four maybe, but no, it would have been twenty twenty three 'cause that equals four years. So so yeah, so that's another Trent: Yeah, that would equal four years. Amanda Jeffrey: Would've been. So and then yeah, so then I started with C B G and you know, Justin was kinda like, like, what are your goals? Like, what do you wanna like aspire to be within this company? And I like, I mean, I would like to really focus on performance. I think that coming from a bodybuilding background and doing CrossFit now, it's like I have this relationship with food that's always been for performance and fueling. Like I'm not here to get tinier or skinnier. I want muscle, I wanna eat for performance and so I mean I learned through a lot of other research from that and just like kind of putting my own knowledge to the test. and he's like, hey, okay, you want to be a performance coach? Deal. We'll get that happening. So, you know, you start with you work with everybody when you first learn about nutrition. Like you should be working with like fat loss clients or body recomp or bulking clients or body recomp, whatever it is. Yerimenopause, menopause, like whatever you got going on. It's like get the experience with everybody as you start. 'Cause then you will kinda understand what your niche is and who is the specific individuals that you do wanna work with. I love performance athletes and and I think that, you know, I've worked really hard at kind of getting to where I've gotten to now and working with a few games athletes and like high level semifinal athletes or even like athletes trying to get to quarterfinals. You know, it's like it's at all avenue of the the individuals that you work with out there. We all have one goal and it's to compete. It's to get better, it's to make improvements, right? Whether You're at quarter final level or games level. It's like it's all the same of what you need depending on how much hours of volume and like effort that you're putting into your training of how serious your goals are. Trent: yeah, for sure. I mean even the even the open level, right? Like even people that just Amanda Jeffrey: You're an open. Trent: want to yeah, even just want to compete like smaller comps, right? They're like I Amanda Jeffrey: Local. Trent: w you'd be you'd be surprised you wouldn't be surprised, but most people, hey everybody out there in in in the ether, Amanda Jeffrey: And the university. Trent: they they would be surprised, like, you know, having a nutrition coach really goes a long, long way. just like how you taught me I have everybody in four month blocks, So I have turnover. Every four month four or eight months, right? That's that and then it at eight months, if they are not getting their shit together, I'm like, okay, that's it. Like we're not we we can't like either you're not doing it or I'm not doing it, whatever it is, w it's not clicking and like we have to go our separate ways because I can't keep taking your money. That's just fucking wrong. Right. So like Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Trent: that that's where that's where my head is, right? And Amanda Jeffrey: Hundred percent. Trent: all my all my clients is like when there's turnover, they get the goals that they want, Because I care. And I give them the things that they want, right? So it's like we're not trying to fucking re remake the wheel. The wheel works fine. Let's just make the wheel spin better, you know? So and yeah. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: Yes. Let's grease up a little bit so we can get moving. Trent: And it's like e I have people that just want to have a six pack just for the sake of having the six pack. And it's like, great, that's i if you can sustain it, great. I love that for you. But like it's not necessarily performance for them, you know? It's like that's fine, you know, whatever. Amanda Jeffrey: No. It's probably my biggest pet peeve when people put on their intake for just want abs. Why? Why? Is it gonna Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: make your life marvelous? No, you're probably gonna be miserable because you're gonna have to sit at such a low body fat percentage. You ain't Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: gonna have treats and snacks and recovery meals when you're ripp getting ripped. And it's like and I tell people that when I see that on a questionnaire where it's like, I want abs. It's like, okay, do you work out your core? Do you work out abs? not really. Like I just do CrossFit. Okay. Working out your abs is cool. Like, I want shoulder caps, but I never train shoulders. That ain't gonna happen, right? So I'm like, Trent: Right. Amanda Jeffrey: yeah, you need to train it. maybe you need to lift at like, you heavier to build a more solid base for sure. you need to be disciplined, and some people have better genetically gifted abs than other people do. I have to sit at like 12 to lower percent body fat to see my lower abs. I'm not gonna sit at 10 to 12% body fat because that's unhealthy for me. I'm pretty cool with sitting at 15% and see the top two. And look like a woman. You know what I mean? So it's like sometimes I do Trent: Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Amanda Jeffrey: have to have these real conversations with people with like, what does those abs mean to you? What if you're miserable and you're eating twelve hundred calories to have those abs? Well, that doesn't sound fun. No, it doesn't. Like, so there's a balance. If you have genetically gifted Trent: Yeah. Right. For sure. Amanda Jeffrey: abs and you get ripped really quick, cool, let's get some abs. Yeah, I love, right? Like you had confused. Trent: Yeah, for sure. I'm not built like that. Like I like sitting around like fifteen to sixteen percent. I'm perfectly happy with that, right? If like if I'm gonna have visible abs, I'm like that's like twelve percent. I'm like, that's that's a lot. That's a lot of work. but that's like peak competing. Yeah, and that's like Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. And it's hard because clients see the games athletes and they're like, I wanna look like Amy Kringle. I'm like, but you don't train six plus hours a day, five six days a week. You know what I mean? You have to be realistic. Trent: Yeah. For sure. when you started with C B G, was had it your first technical games or high level athlete? Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. I mean, she was with me before. She was my guinea pig all the years before I even started with CBG. So like she was like, we would figure out that like maybe peanut butter isn't the best thing to have right before it works out. Okay, fats aren't Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: great right before you're doing an event. We figured that out, you know? So it's like Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: I when I literally tell clients that I put things to the test, it's like either on myself or Hattie or just like local, you know, members at the gym that just asked me for some guidance, like there was definitely some hiccups along the way as you Learn something new, you know what I mean? Trent: Yeah. And that leads into the next question. So what was the thing that you noticed a coaching nutrition that you really shit the bed with that you made changes so that way coaching got better and you taught that to other coaches? Amanda Jeffrey: well I think the biggest thing was just like believing in myself because I feel like I didn't have a mentor when I started this. So there was a lot of just like, is this right? Is is this gonna get them their goals? Is this too much food? Is this not enough food? Like there was a lot of just like back and forth questioning to myself when I would have a minute pause client. I was like, what's the goal here? Like what do they need to focus on? And it's like I doubted myself big time because I had to go and search for the information and trial and error these things with clients. and like At the end of the day, as a nutrition client, you are a problem solver. Like the client comes with you with a problem, and you have to figure out why it's happening or how to solve it or what mindset approach to use with it, right? So I think for myself, it was just like learning the tough points of different avenues of this type of coaching. Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: and just trusting in yourself a little bit more and believing in yourself because you can give someone the perfect plan and they could still not get to their goals because they're not following the plan. You know what I mean? Like so I Trent: Yeah. Which is Amanda Jeffrey: think you learn through errors that you make, but you also learn that it's not always your fault because a lot of clients can pay for coaching and do nothing with it on the other end. And it's disappointing for us because we want them to get the results. Trent: There's nothing worse than having a client and they're like mad at you. They're like, I'm not seeing the results that I want. And you're like, what are you not telling me? Right? Like, Amanda Jeffrey: I'm frustrated. Yeah. Trent: just tell me what it is. And they're like, I'm telling you everything. I'm like, what are you drinking through the day? And they're like, Well, diet coke. And it's like, Okay, this is this is a problem. You are you're you're the problem. So Yeah. I didn't want to take I didn't want to take a picture of it. So Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Plus six Oreos that I didn't tell you about. All right. Yeah. Trent: I mean I ate it and then didn't take a picture of it. I'm like, God, what are you doing? Amanda Jeffrey: I mean what are you doing? Yeah. No, I've I do appreciate my Trent: Yeah, what are what are you doing? Amanda Jeffrey: clients are very, very honest with me. we have a great relationship and it's like even when they do have a little bit too much treats or a little bit of s too many recovery meals in a week, we Trent: Mm. Amanda Jeffrey: just talk about it. Like, okay, you know, this is what I would like to see you improve on. This is what I'm noticing is kind of your downfall lately, you know? So it's like meeting them in the middle and I I my style or my approach of coaching is not aggressive or like slap them on the hand or make them feel guilty, more guilty than they already probably do about their relationship with food. So it's like I just take a very soft approach that if it's gonna take you two years to lose twenty pounds, at least it's slow and steady and you're building a lifestyle and a habit around it and not just a quick fix. Trent: thing that another thing that I learned from you is like I used to be very aggressive, like, why are you not doing this? And now I'm like, let's figure out why you're not doing this. Let's take the time, like Yeah. You know, like here, I'm gonna rub your shoulders. We're gonna figure this out together, you know? Amanda Jeffrey: Some people just need a little bit more cradling than others. They do. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I'm gonna give you a couple hearts and we're gonna get through this, right? Like you're gonna be okay, but Trent: Golds gold stars. Half a gold star. when you first started taking on games athlete and like semifinal athletes and everything, what you think the hardest part was? Amanda Jeffrey: The hardest part with a games athlete is their schedule. Like making their blueprints around the amount of time that they're training in the gym. Where to put the amount of fat so that's not too much fats like in around in their training session. I found that that is the most difficult with putting their their template together or making sure that they're eating enough food is like having the right ratio throughout their meals in the day where they're not feeling overly full and they're not feeling like they have side effects of fats being in their in their workout time and stuff, right? So every time I have a games athlete, I'm like, no. I'm like, let's look at I like literally stare at their schedule and like revamp the blueprint like six times to be like, does this work? Does this work better? so I would say that that is the toughest is just to like get that down pat. And then I mean the way that we do our blueprints too is like delivering that deliverable to the to the high level athlete and to be able Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: to trust you. Because we don't track macros religiously. I'm not saying that my clients don't still like, you know, maybe weigh some food or checking the app for a day to kind of see that they're within the ballpark of the numbers, but they're Trent: Mm. Amanda Jeffrey: not tracking and weighing food all day, every single day within that realm, right? Some people might check one day. We got brand new clients that'll check one day and be like, cool, now I can do this on my own for the rest of this week. But we we're not doing it. We're doing it as an education setting, not as like I need to rely on this every single day. Trent: So I I I started doing the same thing in a way. Like I have people track so they understand how to track and like and then weigh and measure and then get it really dialed in as soon as they start seeing like some awesome results, I'm like, okay, we're gonna take two weeks and I want you to do all of your measurements by eyeball, right? That second week, I want you to eyeball it and then measure it and see how close it is. And like most people figure it by then they're like, this this is totally sustainable. I'm like, see, it's not that bad, right? The first just Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. It's not that bad. Trent: Yeah, just the first six to eight weeks sucks. You'll you'll be fine. Just suck it up. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. percent. Like even when I learned the word print, I was like, man, like this is hard. But I never really got too into the like tracking your macros. Like I've always been pretty flexible with my food and just like eat when I'm hungry and when I'm full I stop eating and I just know that I should have four to five meals a day. I should have carbs in and around my workout. So it's like I never really got too obsessed with like tracking macros, which is why I think I had such an easy time transitioning to coaching this style. Doesn't mean that I can't coach A set of macros, I can, absolutely. But it's like I I enjoy teaching people a different method that might, you know, challenge them a little bit. But like, you know, and people still get good results if they put the work in on focusing on the targets. Trent: So like my wife, Amanda Jeffrey: For sure. Trent: she she tracks her macros like when we're Amanda Jeffrey: Mm-hmm. Trent: on top of it, she's she's tracking her macros. I don't, right? And it's like I eyeball it, it gets close, it's fine, you know, depending on like what we're training like. So like when I stopped training, I kept eating like I was training. So I'm like, hm. I did that's that's incorrect, but you know, it's it's fine. We're we're gonna get back there. It'll it'll work out. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. It is hard when you're not training the same way 'cause right now I'm barely training the last couple of weeks with just like the wrists and things coming up and it's like, okay, I was like, so I'd just been kind of focusing on three meals a day and then I just get my protein shaken or like an extra protein source somewhere on the day, like the protein yogurts or whatever. and that seems to be working okay for me right now, but I know that once training is to pick back up again down the road, I will have the four meals again and my pre workout drink, with my dexter's powder. But right it's kinda like three meals. Have some carbs before your one hour training session. I mean I used to train two to three hours a day, so one hour feels like a couple of gummies is sufficient enough to get through that. Yeah. Trent: Right. Yeah. And like I'm just I'm still s as hungry as I was when I was training. So it's like, well, you know, that's a problem. So Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. It's like almost like I feel like that down crash of your nervous system too is just like we need to recover from years of abusing you. Trent: Yeah, we just just yeah, the th this is this is me cuddling myself. Exactly. Amanda Jeffrey: Yes. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Trent: so having how many games athletes do you have right now? Amanda Jeffrey: Right now I know that Justin like we don't have as many games athletes as we used to. So I work with two games athletes that are signed with C BG right now. I'm still working with Hattie and I actually am still working with Rebecca Vittison. I've been working with her for about just about three I think three years in October. Hannah Trent: Okay. Amanda Jeffrey: Black will also be three years in October. And Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: I think Annika is just over a year or something like that. So but I mean I do have very good relationships, especially with Rebecca and Hannah, just because, you know, we do a lot of bi weekly check in calls. We talk a lot. We they need anything that they can reach out to me and we can change things up a lot. So I d I do appreciate the communication and I know not all games athletes have time for the communication part of it, Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: but it's like I it is important and it is an important part of the process for me to help you with your nutrition. Trent: Right. So what a what I was going to ask is like having that many athletes, because I know like, you know, working for C V G you have so many people, right? You have just a lot of clients, right? And then having Amanda Jeffrey: Hmm. Yeah. Trent: higher level games athletes, do you feel like you have to hold their hands a little bit more or th is are they a little bit more hands off compared to like normal client? Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: They were definitely a lot more hands off. Yeah, they're way more hands off. Like I'll like text them and be like, like I used to send them like a ther a Friday check-in video every Friday. I'm like, they don't need that. Like they don't have enough Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: updates for me. They're not like they're really struggling with their mindset with the food. Like, you know, they could be struggling a little bit with body image. We all do. We're we're all f humans. we all have good weeks and bad weeks where it's like I'm kind of feeling a bit fluffy this week. So it's like, is it a reflection of my food or my water intake or salt or like My training, inflammation. so I think that they're much easier because they definitely need less. Where it's like I'm almost like I don't want to be overly annoying to them. I do want them to know I'm here if they need anything, but I don't want to be overbearing for them either because they're busy. They're training six hours a day. They got sponsors, they got things that they're looking to improve with their with their personal brand, you know. So it's like, yeah, I'd leave them be and when they need a call, they'll they'll take advantage of the times that we have selected to do their calls. Trent: So like with games athletes and their and their schedules changing a lot, do you have to adjust that for them or they are they kind of figure it out a little bit along the way? They're like, well, I should just do things at this time and shit like that. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. I feel like they're pretty like rigid with their schedule. Like when it comes to like their training schedule, right? Like it's like I train from ten or whatever, ten to one o'clock. I go home from one to two and then I go back to the gym from two to four, right? So it's like they have the same kind of structure of their schedule of where they're training pretty much. A lot of them have similar schedules. it's more for like the travel and like the competitions and stuff, and just like making sure Everybody knows that when they compete, you don't really have an appetite. Like you kind of get the ick from food, your adrenaline and your nerves are up. So it's like you just your body doesn't care about food, but you're like, I need to get all this food in. So I can keep my glycogen storage at a hundred percent and absolutely smoke these these workouts and smoke the rest of the field kind of thing, right? So it's like I try to make sure that they're just eating enough with again, without just being overbearing. It's like I'm not gonna text them every day and be like, How you doing? How are you getting your food in? Like They know. They know they need to get that fuel and they know they need to get carbs in. And when they absolutely need help, they will text me like when they need it. So it's like I I do appreciate that. I mean, if they needed more, I'm here anytime they need anything, but they kind of once you teach them how to fuel before and after their events and around the weekend, they get pretty good at getting what they need from the grocery store and knowing that they're relying on similar foods every competition. Trent: Cause there's some clients that are just like, hold my hand every day. And I was like, if that was a games athlete, man, that would be too much. Thank God. That'd be awesome. Amanda Jeffrey: They don't do that. They don't do that, man. Like I mean, I'm impressed that, you know, like, especially Rebecca and Hannah. Like, I've been working with them for three full years. They do their calls. I mean, at one point, I think me and Hannah were talking like every single week, and I was and then we were both like, I think we could go down to like bi-weekly. Like, you're pretty self-sufficient. Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: Like, we you know my style of coaching. I know kind of like where you're at with things most of the time when we talk about like what her targets are and where she's at with things. so it's like Yeah, they know. And I'm like, if they ever need anything before a comp, like I used to give them like a full layout of like pre post event, like a competition layout, and then eventually it's just like they don't need that as much anymore, or some people are better at it. Some of my high level athletes still actually really enjoy having that competition layout because it just eliminates the thinking for them. Trent: Yeah. I'll I'll tell you right now the competition layout that you gave me as like a an outline for giving Amanda Jeffrey: As a template. Trent: to athletes. Holy shit. On point. It it worked Amanda Jeffrey: Man, it worked. Trent: for us. It's aside from the food ick, it's still like it worked great for sure. Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: It works. And it just simple and you know, someone that I really look up to in the industry is Taylor, the sports dietitian. I mean, I've always thought about messaging and being like, Hey, I'm a big fan. But I was like, is that dorky to do? But I'm like, I just really like my Trent: Do it. Who cares? Amanda Jeffrey: my training. I'm not a dietitian at all, right? I'm just a nutrition coach, but I'm like, from what I've learned and who I've paid attention to in you know, on social media and stuff, is like I f I follow her stuff because I believe very strongly in a lot of the things that she preaches with her athletes, right? Eat the processed carbs. It's one weekend. Eat the damn cereal. Eat the Pop Tart. Because are you Trent: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: gonna be able to keep your glycogen storage a hundred percent full with these little meals that you can barely choke down? Probably not. So it's like Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: there are things that she represents that I think she's funny, and I think she's got a lot of really good. content out there. So I mean I should just message her and be yo, I'm a big fan. I'm also an insur a nutrition coach, insurance Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: and games athlete. So it's like, you know, it's just cool to be able to relate to someone that, you know, I feel like sometimes the online world is so toxic where it's like garbage over here and just like fear mongering on all these foods and ingredients over here. And it's like she don't do that. Like I think she had a shirt on the other day that was like, say no to your palm or something about like F and off about your palm oil and stuff because she was just like Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: Fuck your palm oil situation, man. Like, unless you're eating a ton of processed foods, why are you stressing about it? Like, I just don't look at ingredients like that and this like overcomplicated and fear mongrel my clients. The last thing they need is that. They need to work on the mindset and like the identity shift that they're about to go through to get to their goals. You know what mean? Trent: Yeah, that's gonna lead into what was it like for you doing your first like big individual comps last year? Amanda Jeffrey: It was eye-opening, I would say. Monster Games was my first big in-person competition. And I went completely by myself. I didn't have a coach. Trent: Hell yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: I didn't have any friends with me. I literally flew to Kansas, got a Bronco rental, felt super cool in it, and then I rented this little Airbnb in a basement and I just it was by myself. I mean Hattie is my coach and does my programming, so like I'm she had the games the next weekend, so there was no way that she was gonna you know, fly out, you know, stress her own body out for her own big competition of making Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: it to the games. So she did all my warm-ups and we talked on the phone before and after every event. But then Mahmood, who works for Ascend Athlete, he was actually in person and did help coach me in person. Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: but yeah, it was interesting. Like the food, and the ick. Like I never had really every time clients were like, I just like have the ick and I just I'm no appetite and I can't eat, I'm like, whatever, man, just eat. Like su suck it up. Trent: Yeah, just just suck it down. Amanda Jeffrey: And then you're in the moment and you're like, I'm so sorry. I could barely choke this orange juice down because I'm just grossed out by this food. But you know, you force it down and that's where you find options. Like I would have my my little pancakes, my protein pancakes in the morning, and then I like to do two pop tarts about an hour or two before I head to the venue for the event. And then I'll drink my Dexter's powder, I my gummies, welches, whatever I have. and it was just yeah, it was really cool to put my own knowledge to the test because like I said that competition layout like so many clients when they compete I just f copy and paste edit all the times edit what they need for their numbers and they're like I've never felt so fueled and I'm like I'm barely even sore on Monday. I recovered really, really well off the weekend. So like thank you. This is incredible. And then it worked for me too. I was like I ate I had to force some meals down for Trent: Amazing. Amanda Jeffrey: sure and choke it down. But like you know Monday I was really not that beat up. I wasn't super sore and I was like I think I got sixth place on the last workout of the of the weekend at Monster Games. I'm like, really? I'm like, I just can Trent: Hell yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: keep pushing it, man. So yeah, super cool to put your own knowledge to the test. Cause I just did it for years and was like, I mean, hopefully this works. I'm getting good feedback and people are saying that they're feeling really fueled and recovered from the competitions. But when I did it for myself, I was like, okay, Trent: when we were at Desert City, I think that was the last day at Desert City, I was like, I eating was like not normal. I'm like, I'm I'm tired, I'm over it. Nerd's Gummies was like all I was smashing in between workouts. And then I would go see Mason at the first storm tent and be like, two scoops and give me some ignition, nail that, nerds gummies. I'm like, let's go. Amanda Jeffrey: I need those sauce and sticks too. I was like, sauce and sticks, gr nerd gummy clusters. Like we were just getting into it. Trent: Yeah. For sure. And then I took third and the last workout. And I was like, hey, that'll work. So that's Amanda Jeffrey: So Trent: that's science team. Amanda Jeffrey: At science team, and you know what? Get over your fear of processed foods because sometimes they're just necessary to fuel up with. Am I telling you to eat it Trent: for sure. Amanda Jeffrey: every day with your lunch? No. I'm not. But when Trent: Mm-hmm. Amanda Jeffrey: you're competing, I am telling you to like shovel down what works and what you can get in to keep that glycogen storage full and keep you pushing and recovering through the weekend. Hell yeah. Trent: Hell yeah. so what's the biggest mindset shift you've had in the last two years? Amanda Jeffrey: Hmm. The biggest mindset shift. I feel like this year for sure is to be just like more patient and kinder to myself. I think looking back at last year, I've just like, you know, I'm not an elite athlete. I'm you're a standard RX athlete. You know, I can I can do all the things, but ring muscle ups were really tough for me to put like more than two or threes together in a workout. So I was just so hard on myself. I was never fast enough, and I always like told myself I don't have that dog in me to like get into the pain cave and you know like I'm I would cry when I would fail ring muscle ups and I was like man if I could just go back to last year of when I could compete because I miss being able to train like that of course right now and I was like if you were just kinder to yourself in the works of that you might have been able to go a little bit further with it without shattering yourself and taking two steps back every time you had a bad workout. So I think in the last year for sure is to be more patient, to be kinder to myself and enjoy Your time. 'Cause you don't know if you're gonna get injured the next day. Trent: I love it. That's so great. Amanda Jeffrey: Enjoy your workouts. Enjoy the time that you get to s like, you know, work out and push y with your team or with the people that you work out with. But yeah, I think to just be the to be kinder to myself is the biggest one. Trent: Love it. I love it. And that is like good advice for everybody out there. Be kind to yourself, or I'll fight you. That's what it is. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Talk kind to yourself. You don't I would never talk to my home girl Hattie Canyo and tell her that, you know, any of the mean things that I would repeat to myself a in a given time back in the day. So it's like it just really makes you open your eyes. Even sometimes I'll say something and I'm like, No, that was rude, man. I'm like, You gotta change Trent: No, what the Amanda Jeffrey: that attitude and then I will. I'll just like, Hey, you know, that was really dumb and I like, No, it wasn't. It was just Ridiculous and you could do ridiculous things sometimes and fix it. And it was like, but ridiculous sounds so much more silly Trent: Yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: than you're stupid or I'm dumb or something like that. Like those are very harsh words, and I try not to ever say that. But hey, sometimes it slips when you do something silly and you're like, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's rewind and say something nice to myself. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's like Trent: Yeah, get it get it together. Amanda Jeffrey: catching yourself in those moments, I feel like, is the hardest eye opener for yourself because you're like you hear it and then you're kind of like, Ooh, that's not cool. Trent: No, that that's not cool at all. Amanda Jeffrey: No. Trent: You're like, where did this even come from? Yeah. But like Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah, like come on now, right? Trent: being able to being able to acknowledge it and being like, Well, that was dumb. Let's let's get past this. Like that that's huge, right? And I think that takes a lot of work and a lot of a lot of I mean, that takes a lot of courage instead of just like copping out and being like, Whoa, I'm dumb or I I I can't do this, right? Like, you know. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. I mean I did it all through my life. I n was never good at exams and I used to just cry and be like, You're so stupid, like you just are like, you know, and then after I got back to college and did some other courses and stuff, I was like, You were just unprepared, Manda. You weren't stupid. You just didn't put any work into studying and not learning what the curriculum was. Like it wasn't that you were dumb, you just didn't apply yourself in the right setting. So it's like I love that I can look back on that and be like, You were never stupid, you just didn't care to put the time and the work into studying and exams and stuff, you would rather be out partying and hanging out with boys, basically. All right. And you know, Trent: There there it is. L long story short. Amanda Jeffrey: hang out at the hockey games and stuff with all my girlfriends. So it's like it just looking back at it, it's like your priority shift and you realize that it's like you're not those things that you convince yourself to be. You just you just didn't put the time into what you want it to be. Trent: what does your future look like for the next year? What is it like after you heal up and all that stuff? What what's the first plans? Amanda Jeffrey: I I don't know. I mean, fittest of the coast has been seeming like a really good qualifier that I might dabble with next year. Trent: Nice. Amanda Jeffrey: you know, I'm hoping like to have a family in the next couple of years, and see. I mean, I am getting older, so it's like we'll see what Mother Nature brings upon us if that happens for Trent: Mm. Amanda Jeffrey: me and my husband. But yeah, like looking to hopefully have some kids or at least one kid and then I mean, I'd like to buy a second home and rent this first home and kind of start investing a little bit in our future. And just be able to kind of get back to working out and to be able to continue growing myself as a nutrition coach and to show up online because I'm an online nutrition coach, but we we get given to our clients that kind of match with us, and I don't really have to market for clients, but I do Trent: Mm. Right. Amanda Jeffrey: still like for people to know who I am and like, you know, my knowledge, my experience, and sometimes I'm just like don't care to put any effort into social media. So I feel like the goal is is I would love to build my own personal brand being with C B G right now and just kind of seeing where that goes. Trent: I think that's awesome idea. And and you would crush it at it and anything you post I'll share because I believe in your capabilities. Amanda Jeffrey: Appreciate it. Trent: And if people like seek you out for mentorship, they should do that. one hundred percent. I agree. Amanda Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. So just gotta believe in myself because I love talking to you guys. And one of my other mentorship clients, Nick, was like, Why don't you just make videos like this all the time? Like people would love to listen to you. And I'm like, Because I put the camera on, I'm like, what do I talk about? Like when you're asking me questions Trent: Ha ha ha. Amanda Jeffrey: and doing the thing, I know exactly what to talk about. But I was like, I would just have to make a game plan. and my good friend Roderick from Meme for Time has definitely offered to help me out with his massive action takers. So I'm like, there's there's outlets for me to grow. I just yeah, I just have to take the plunge. Trent: Yeah, do it for sure. Amanda, where can everybody find you? Amanda Jeffrey: I'm on Instagram. what is my Instagram right now? I changed it. It's coach a man no coach Trent: Something. Amanda Jeffrey: Manda underscore nutrition coaching is my Instagram. I just changed it from coach underscore Manda. So Manda underscore Trent: There we go. Perfect. Amanda Jeffrey: nutrition coaching. I suck at making videos right now, but I pop them up every once in a while. And I mean I'm always happy to chat with anybody in the DMs and if they have goals or any ambitions to wanting to discuss with the coach. Trent: Hell yeah. I love it. I will link that all in the show notes and everything. And I cannot thank you enough for being on. super fun conversation, as always. I appreciate you. Amanda Jeffrey: Okay. As always. I Yeah, appreciate you, Trent. Thanks for having me on and picking my Trent: You're the best. Hell yeah. Amanda Jeffrey: brain. Trent: All right, I'll talk to you later. All Amanda Jeffrey: See ya Trent.