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The Cotton Club · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

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Oh God. Do we need to like pre -quote with each
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other real quick? No. always like when we ended
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up with the same quotes so okay perfect there
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aren't a lot of nicholas cage quotes and i'm
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pretty sure i got mine wrong i didn't pick a
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nick yeah no neither did i so oh okay i did pick
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a nicholas cage quote oh good then you're you're
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in really good shape how many n words were in
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it yeah did he say yeah yeah yeah that no my
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quote is just that just that word there's a whole
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lot of fucking epithets in this uh i'm gonna
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have to quack myself on that yeah you've already
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recorded it my first quacking of myself oh it
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took season until season three i feel pretty
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good about that you know coward yeah well i probably
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said worse shit and then just cut myself out
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so don't worry yeah and then some guy stole that
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laptop and now has all of that raw audio yeah
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oh that audio is so raw yeah if there's any like
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weird shit that anyone hears from me on the internet
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That's definitely from some other guy. It's a
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deep fake for sure. Yeah. Somebody took all the
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evidence from our podcast and stitched together
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words. It's the best way to do it. So how do
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you guys feel about tap dancing? I'm pro. I was
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in a show one time in high school. It was anything
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goes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was playing the I can't
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remember the guy's name, the cuck, basically,
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which was good. But like I had to learn a little
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bit of tap dancing for that. And I don't know
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if you know, but I'm really hard to like force
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to learn things or do anything. Hadn't noticed.
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So like making me learn how to tap dance. Like
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I, I went to like three classes and I was like,
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this is bullshit. I don't need to tap dance.
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And then it's like during the show, it's like,
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yeah, you're going to tap dancer in this. No,
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we're like, fuck. did they just give you soft
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shoes and then they put tap sounds over it no
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i i learned to do the little bits of like i was
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background time i wasn't like fair enough yeah
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you were the cuck you were in the cuck chair
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yeah i was like look i'm so excited it's a musical
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and i'm a non -singing character let's go that
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far that is my energy but i got i had a cool
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workout scene where i had one of those like uh
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one piece workout uniforms yeah yeah and uh i
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did some like super manly lifts and lunges nice
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there's uh i think it was for season three or
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season four of new girl uh they did like a little
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musical like short thing and during rehearsal
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like jake johnson would just be in the back like
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pretending to like do the moves yeah the director
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be like you got the shake he's like got it so
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when they went to film it he didn't actually
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know how to do any of it. So in the final cut,
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he's just like flailing because he's never bothered
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to learn it. I mean, that show is gold. If you
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fake shit hard enough, you know, that show is
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really gold. What a good show. Yeah. One of the
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few like serialized shows that I've watched that
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I really enjoy. Yeah. So when I'm just going
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to give you one more. I'm your host, Sean. See
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you in the next part. you're my co -host okay
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next next part so i was leaving the bar today
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and like right as i got in my car i got a text
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like um hayden's ex -girlfriend alert and i'm
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like fuck and i'm like thinking is this the day
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that i miss a recording because Because I have
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to go back inside and meet one of Hayden's exes
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and talk to them. And you guys would have been
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fine with that, right? If I ditched out. If you
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continue to troll on Hayden. Yeah, I would have
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probably respected that. I mean, we everybody's
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had one absence except me. I'm allowed one. You
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got to make it a good one. That would be a great
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one. Dunk on our boy. That's pretty good. Yeah,
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that is pretty good. Sorry, Hayden. Yeah. Long
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story short. Yeah, it was really hard for me
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not to engage in a text conversation while driving
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over here. I'm just getting texts of like, as
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I was leaving, I was like the one in the sports
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bra. And that just set things off. And I wasn't
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sure it was not the one in the sports bra. Wait,
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was that a new one? What? No, that was just somebody
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who is walking in as I was walking out. Oh, sorry.
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I'm just naming the only woman I noticed in the
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bar as I left. I see. That wasn't one of our
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immediate friends who I know has not touched
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Hayden's penis. Do we know that anyone has? We
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know one person has. Are you talking about a
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parent when she was a child? Yeah, Susie. Hayden
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doesn't ever listen to this podcast, so he can't
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get mad at that joke. That's true. That's true.
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Hayden's got a hot mom. But to be honest, I'd
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Greco -Roman wrestle his dad any day. like just
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for funsies yeah just all greased up what was
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that movie was it the ladies man where at the
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end there's like a will ferrell wrestling like
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baby oil scene oh man i have no idea i think
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it was the ladies man somebody in the comments
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please tell me what movie i'm thinking about
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i cannot which oiled up will ferrell movie is
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referring to also he's nick yeah yeah and my
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co -host And our producer. Hi, I'm Peter. And
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in this podcast, we sometimes talk about Nicolas
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Cage movies. Not this week. He's in it, but it's
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not his film. It's tough, these early phase movies,
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because he really is not a feature. Well, he's
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got more of a character in this, at least. Totally.
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Like, he is actually a featured actor. Yes. Among
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fucking 50. Oh, he's got a great cast. Sorry,
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Sean, we're just going to. Yeah, you're getting
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steamrolled. No, I was going to say, this is
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the first time we've really seen him seeing that
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like budging of that budding of that character
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actor we've come to love so well. Totally. That
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was that was my one critique of this entire thing.
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Let me get right to the Nick Cage judgment. Also,
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we're talking about Cotton Club. It felt like
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proto Nick Cage and he was just sort of like
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kicking the tires. Yeah. And, you know, didn't
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have enough time to really like do his thing.
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And I wanted more. Yeah. You know, at this point,
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how much more do you think Francis Ford Coppola
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was going to give his young nephew and his first
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like featured role? Well, no, because he had
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Valley Girl already. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Valley
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Girl came out. And then he gave him Peggy Sue
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after this. So like it's not like he quit. Yeah.
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But it's not like he liked Cage's decision making
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skills in Peggy Sue. So like. I'm sure there
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was a little more control by Coppola and a little
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less willingness to explore from Cage. So I think
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it was a little both. Yeah, that's probably right.
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But he had a pretty straightforward role. He
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played the brother of Richard Gere. Yeah, Richard
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Gere. Dixie Dwyer. I liked. Richard Gere's creep
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-ass mustache. I love a pencil mustache. It was
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really working for me. I don't know why. And
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like Cage also has kind of a shitty like creeper
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stache, but Gere's is real on point. It was a
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good time for that. Everybody looks like John
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Waters. This is a proper period piece of like
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the late 1920s, early 1930s because we get Nick
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Cage, high -waisted pants, suspenders, no shirt.
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Oh, yeah. I thought you were going to say unabashed
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N -words. Well, that too is of an era. You guys
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made it seem like there were so many more. There
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are like six. There's a lot in there. There's
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not. When I'm not watching a Tarantino film,
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more than one set of phalanges worth of N -words.
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It's more than I'm accustomed to in a day. Yeah.
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Larry Fishburne dropped like. Larry, it's it's
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the white people ones that are the harder ones.
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And you're right. There's only about six of those,
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but you add them all together. Those are the
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hard are ones. Yeah, that's true. I do like how
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they beat the shit out of that one bouncer, though.
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Oh, yeah. Which is to say Lawrence Fishburne's
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character beats up a white guy who was a real
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piece of shit. Yeah. OK, so this is so we already
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you already told us what like you wanted more
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of from this film, which is more cage. I wanted
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more of. Any fucking narrative in this film,
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because there's like three or four through lines
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that all just kind of are happening around each
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other. Yeah. But there's no there's no real build
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to anything because to the Fishburne bathroom
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beating. That starts off because, oh, God, I
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have IMDb open up here because there's this.
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It's a pretty decent, pretty spectacular cast.
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Gregory Hines, his characters, and he's a dancer.
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He's a tap dancer. He's a featured artist at
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the Cotton Club. Yes. He's in love with a singer.
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And like the stage director keeps telling him,
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like, keep your hands off the merchandise. And
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like, you know, kind of roughs him up a bit.
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So Gregory Hines, a Sandman's like, I'm gonna
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kill him. I'm gonna kill him. And gets Fishburne,
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who is a gangster to like deal with it. Well,
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he's a pimp. Yeah. Bumpy roads. Yeah. Years pass.
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And that dealing with it is. A bathroom beating
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many years later, which is fairly large for this
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Jim Crow era. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty bold
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ass move. Yeah. I mean, considering people are
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getting like shot down into the street in this
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movie. I mean, they did make him like lick the
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toilet and swirled him. Oh, yeah, they swirled
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him real good. Pretty power move. You're right.
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This movie could have had a much tighter. It's
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two hours and like eight minutes or something
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like that. And it feels like four. I mean, it
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feels lengthy. You feel every minute and maybe
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a few extra. They could tighten the script up.
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They could define some of these stories that
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are in it. It is pretty central about Dwyer and
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Vera and their relationship with Dutch the gangster.
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Yeah. And Oni. Yeah. Played by Hoskins, Bob Hoskins.
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Yeah. Fucking great role. He's like such a lovable
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guy until he's like, I will chop your head off.
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And you're like, you will. Yeah, that's fair.
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I get it. Yeah, I don't know. Like to try and
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summarize this is tough because you're right.
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There are sort of like a couple different arcs.
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And the only ones that really matter are Dixie
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and Vera kind of tangentially to that. And then
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Sandman, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, let's just.
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The major arcs are, say, like the Dixie and the
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Sandman arcs. And Cage's character is involved
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with the Dixie Dwyer story. Right. Brothers.
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Not so much in the Sandman story. Also, hey,
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we've got two pairs of brothers here. Oh, yeah.
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Because Sandman's brother, who is also Gregory
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Hines's real brother, is in the movie. Yeah.
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And they're dance partners. So two brother stories.
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Until. Until Sandman betrays him. Hey, they get
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tight again. Yeah, the kiss of fame, man. Yeah.
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And then an actual brotherly kiss on the lips
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later. Yeah, they really got all three. Yeah.
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Brother loving. No, I liked their characters
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actually a lot. One, I like dancing and tap dancing
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was cool. I also think that that era is really
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impressive what they were doing. You know, having
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to perform for a shit ton of white people. Probably
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not great. yeah um especially white people like
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nicholas cage who heckle you as you as he walks
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to his shitty table yeah he's a piece of shit
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yeah he was i will say taking that aspect out
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of the era just the nightclubs the old nightclub
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scene though is so fascinating because like now
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if i want to see live music i gotta buy tickets
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three months out to go see a show i want whereas
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before the you know advent of The Internet. It
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was local. It was always locals only. Yeah, it
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was locals only. You went and saw people you
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knew like it was like a community. And that's
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what culture was. And I don't know. I was like,
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oh, that's cool. I wish we had that. Yeah. And
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more commonly, it was you go to the club you
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go to and who's performing is who's performing.
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You're not even following like a marquee. Right.
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Yeah. I mean, so this is like. partially a love
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letter to like the actual cotton club you know
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it's somewhat historical drama i don't know how
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much of the characters are based on real people
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other than like you know cab calloway's like
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they have cab calloway on stage at one point
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charlie chaplin is like in the audience and yeah
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yeah he does his little potato dance yeah yeah
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classic um was there's no other way you would
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recognize that no fucking hitler's here too that's
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cool they didn't even give him the stash yeah
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he was the 30s he was still an okay he was an
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artist that's right yeah the like but the basic
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premise of the film is you know there is a looming
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potential dang war tension uh richard gare's
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character dixie is a musician just trying to
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like make his Get his big break and accidentally
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winds up saving Dutch, a gangster, from an assassination
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attempt and becomes kind of his driver, his go
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to man, like at, you know, on pain of death.
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That doesn't seem to matter very long because
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he gets out and I don't know, then it kind of
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just loses the plot. The last 45 minutes picks
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up, but like. There's a whole bit in the middle
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where he goes off to Hollywood. The second act
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is very much less of a Dixie Dwyer story as that's,
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I think where it picks up more of the Sandman
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story. Like the second act is where both characters
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kind of get into their, their big moment and
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Dixie, he leaves for Hollywood, but Sandman,
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he gets into like his solo career. So it stays
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local with him. While Dixie goes out and then
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as Sandman and his brother make up in the third
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act, Dixie comes back and resolves his story.
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That's kind of how I took it or where I would
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address that. I did like when the mobsters are
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like evaluating if Dixie's a good candidate to
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go to Hollywood. They're like. He's a terrible
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actor, but he doesn't look like a fruit. Yeah.
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Yeah. He's not a fruit or a commie. But like,
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I'm not quite sure why, like why Hoskins sends
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him to Hollywood. Like he does it as a favor
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to get him out of from under Dutch. Yeah. But
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I don't understand why. Hoskins is a sweetheart.
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I mean, everybody seems to actually really like
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his character. I mean, he's a piece of shit and
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he's a bad guy, but he's also like kind of doing
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good stuff. I, this movie has such a wild swing
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in the third act because the first act is gangland
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mobster film. The second act's more about like
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backstage drama at these clubs, competing clubs.
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And the third act just leans right into kind
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of some magical realism and breaks like the fourth
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wall breaks like a wall between like this, what's
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happening on stage and like what's happening.
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in like people's lives and it ends with like
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a really weird kind of like staged so wave to
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the camera yeah the ending is super weird i loved
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it i loved the end of this movie like the last
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the last 20 minutes of this movie i was riveted
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i think that was part of my problem with this
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is like i had a really really hard time i just
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was distracted a lot by like literally anything
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else other than the movie even though i was really
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enjoying it like the music was great the acting
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i think is pretty solid the cast is amazing i
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think the directing was pretty good there's really
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good moments of writing like there's some good
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character interactions yeah but yeah like i couldn't
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i wasn't captured ever i i was able to just let
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this movie kind of play out and yeah i was really
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enjoying elements of it like throughout i really
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enjoy this movie uh to be frank. Um, but yeah,
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if, if something came up and I looked at my phone,
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I was like, okay, that's fine. I'm not going
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to miss, like, they're not making like split
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second, like character moments. It's the movie's
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long enough. Like all development happens in
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a span of time. Yeah. It's not like, Oh, and
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this happened. So I missed a, a beat in the film.
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I was able to just be like, Oh, okay. Like I'm
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enjoying and just experiencing the film in my
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day. We don't have to say where you pirated your
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film, but was your audio super fucked up? No,
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mine was OK. OK, mine was fine. It was like very
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delayed. So that also threw me off. I had a problem
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with the subtitles originally. And as soon as
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we were like these subtitles, like what's going
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on? Because it looked like they were just mentally
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speaking to each other, like Dixie and Vera at
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one point. Nice. And then like. A whole scene
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later, this dialogue starts to happen. It's like,
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oh, OK, no fucking shut the subtitles. Everything
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is fucked on these. I'll struggle. I'll use my
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ears like God intended. I also had no subtitles.
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Yeah, it's fine. But my audio is OK. Mine had
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subtitles, but they would come and go like they
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would just turn themselves off. Cool. Yeah, I
18:44
just manually turn them off. I took control of
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that situation. So, OK, the cast of characters
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is great, right? Like everyone is good. Fishburn's
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in there. Diane Lane, super hot as usual. Like
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I liked her as a brunette. I liked her as a blonde.
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She was a good like flapper era type person.
19:04
Tom Waits again. Tom Waits was back in there.
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I like to scratch his voice. I had to go back
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and ask Josie where Tom Waits was because I never
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recognize his face, even though we just saw him
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in the last film, too. Well, he looks really
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different as Benny. Yeah. And this was a very
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quick scene. Yeah. Yeah. But this is also the
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least Tom Waits I feel like Tom Waits has ever
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looked. Probably true. Yeah. I mean, the most
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Tom Waits is probably... Rumblefish? Oh, that
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superhero. No. The superhero movie. Mystery Man.
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Oh, yeah. Mystery Man. But one of my favorites
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was probably fucking Frenchie. Oh, Frenchie's
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my favorite, dude. Frenchie's such a good character
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just in general. And then, like, the fact that
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that was Herman Munster is awesome. Like, yeah.
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I think that was the best written, best acted.
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Yeah, he was Herman Munster. He's Fred Gwynn.
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Oh, I love that so much. Yeah, he stole the show
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every time he was on the scene. Well, there's...
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There's this whole weird scene, and this goes
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to my whole, like, how disjointed this film is.
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There's a scene with him and Hoskins where he
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gets, Frenchie gets kidnapped by Nick Cage. For
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reasons? Hoskins pays for ransom, just for ransom,
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for $50 ,000. Cage felt like he was owed. Yeah,
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and, like, Frenchie gets back, you know, and
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starts giving Hoskins shit for, like, only paying
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$500 ransom and, like, breaks Hoskins' watch.
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And then I was like, I paid fifty thousand. And
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then Frenchie gives him a gift and it's a new,
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better watch. So it was just a joke. Yeah, dude,
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I fucking love that. That's probably one of my
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favorite scenes in the film. It was a great scene.
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He just shows up and he's like, you know what?
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I got this boy of mine. I'm a troll him. Like,
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yes, I was just taken hostage and I know my dude
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paid fifty grand for me. I'm going to come in
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hot. I'm going to accuse him of shortchanging
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my life. I'm going to destroy his property, but
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I'm going to replace it with something like leaps
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and bounds better because I know he just shelled
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out shit tons of money for my life. So he's getting
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from my heart like a thank you, dude. Great scene.
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Not saying it's not a great scene. It's hilarious.
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It's weird structurally in a narrative. everything
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yes i think every frenchie scene exists kind
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of in its own story like it's its own movie yeah
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he does not he like he barely fits into this
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film and i love it he's just a giant kind of
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intimidating dude who talks a little he looks
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like a fucking frankenstein yeah it's like there's
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a reason he was herman munster and his name is
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frenchie and he He's just kind of like your goofball
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comedy element to a movie that never asked for
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a goofball comedy. That was what that's my quote,
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though, was someone says, what about your nickname?
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Frenchie? He says, that's different. I'm trustworthy.
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That's my quote, too. Yeah, because Frenchie
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doesn't trust anyone with a nickname. Yeah. Since
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you guys both gave your quote, I just want to
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give mine, which is just when they get to the
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comic book for the first time. You can't do that,
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Sean. All right, go ahead. Take a fresh one on
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that. Nicolas Cage is just hollering at the dancers
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and he says, look at the rump on that one. Just
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because I love the word rump. I love colloquialisms
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for butt. Yeah, that is good. He was so awkward
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going back to their table, like standing by the
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stage and like hollering at all the dancers where
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like. Clearly nobody else does that at this club.
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Yeah. You could see their outsider isms kind
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of really showing in that sort of thing. I mean,
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seeing as this isn't a cage podcast, we should
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like talk about what he does in this film. So
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he plays Dixie's brother who wants to be a gangster,
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like wants to get in with Dutch and uses Dixie's
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like random happenstance of meeting Dutch to
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like get on the payroll. He's just gotten married
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to Jennifer Gray of Ferris Bueller fame. Cool.
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And then disappears for a good chunk of the movie,
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then comes back demanding like a bigger take
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to be like a partner, you know? Yeah, you see
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him every once in a while and he's kind of just
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muscle. So you see like his muscle and he's like,
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oh, I need more money because he shot some people.
23:38
So he's like. there's a little bit of reasoning
23:42
for why he's coming back for more i mean i i
23:45
knew he was in the background but like you know
23:47
like he's not yeah but our listeners don't watch
23:50
these movies and we barely describe what happens
23:53
in these films we kind of do sometimes it's better
23:57
when we have a guest that we can make do it oh
23:59
man yeah they talk good they talk pretty someday
24:03
uh but then you know nick cage's little sidekick
24:07
gets killed so he has his boys mow down that
24:12
guy, mow down Frenchie's, like, not Frenchie,
24:14
Dutch's right -hand man. Couple kids get killed.
24:18
I was like, holy shit, they killed kids. Oh,
24:20
yeah. Oh, one of those kids, Sofia Coppola. Oh,
24:24
tight. Yeah, Josie was, we think it is. Yeah,
24:28
she was listed in the credits for, like, Corpse
24:33
Girl on Street or something like that. She's
24:35
the one who sold an apple. Yeah. She didn't get
24:37
shot. Oh, maybe. Maybe she got shot. Wait, OK,
24:40
so here's where I got really confused with this
24:42
movie. So Cage's buddy gets killed. I got that
24:45
part. OK, that was Bob Hoskins, man, who did
24:49
it. Or was that Dutch's man who was Dutch's man?
24:53
But he works for Dutch. Yeah, but he was clearly
24:57
not in Dutch's favor, especially after he crumpled
25:00
up the hundred and fifty and threw it back at
25:02
him. And I was going to get a psycho. So then
25:06
he he kills that dude. But then steals Frenchie.
25:11
Yeah. Why? Why wouldn't you keep fucking with?
25:13
But that's a different dude. Frenchie doesn't
25:15
work for Dutch. It was about the money. He's
25:18
a he just wants to be a gangster. That's all
25:20
it is. He's not smart. He's dumb. Yeah, he was
25:23
a dumb character. Yeah. Like that character was
25:26
not. Well, like both this and Rumblefish kind
25:29
of exists in this whole. The end of like a criminal
25:33
era, like Rumblefish, it was the end of like.
25:36
You know, street youths fighting. This is kind
25:39
of the end of kind of gangland gangster era.
25:43
And Nick Cage is he wants to be a part of that.
25:46
He idolizes it, even though it's not really what
25:50
he thinks it is. And it ultimately gets him killed
25:52
because he kind of treats it like a game and
25:55
then gets mowed down real bad. Yeah. Tommy Gund.
26:00
In a phone booth. In a phone booth. Hard to get
26:03
out of a phone booth. Can't defend yourself.
26:05
door's too silly it's true well i really did
26:10
appreciate so he gets like referred to as a mad
26:13
dog in the press he's like this hated criminal
26:16
but every time you see uh either dutch's men
26:20
or um what was uh you can just call them the
26:25
dutchman the Dutchman or Oni's Hoskins men. Anytime
26:29
they walk into a place and they're about to do
26:31
a hit, they like tell the staff to get out or
26:33
to get down. Like they give people nods. Like
26:35
it's very, those assassinations are very Columbine
26:39
esque of like, Hey, don't go to school today.
26:43
Sorry. I've been watching a lot of Columbine
26:45
videos. Oh, why? Yeah. that's a terrible answer
26:51
as you can give i suppose i don't even know what
26:54
started it but then like obviously youtube like
26:58
you do you watch one video of something kind
27:00
of obscure and they're like have i got the playlist
27:04
for you and it's like well how flat is this earth
27:07
not as flat as you'd think but Pretty fucking
27:13
flat. Why are you not allowed to fly over Antarctica?
27:16
Yeah. Makes you wonder. It's not science. I'll
27:19
tell you that for free. Ice wall. I forgot where
27:25
I was with that. But yeah, Nick Cage. We weren't
27:28
going anywhere. Yeah, we got into Nicolas Cage's
27:32
death in this. Yeah. That's a pretty good death.
27:35
I did like that he had like a handful of Skittles
27:36
or whatever the fuck those were. Oh yeah, he
27:38
had like some hard candies from the bar and died
27:41
and it was just blood and Skittles. Yeah. So
27:44
romantic, that death. Yeah. Sure. I mean, like,
27:49
not romantic as in like heart -throbbing romantic,
27:51
but like... I mean, his wife was there to witness
27:53
it. The way it was shot, the filming. Yeah. Okay,
27:58
so I just want to say, like... i've not watched
28:01
a lot of coppola's films prior to like these
28:04
uh and especially seeing like rumble fish and
28:07
this back to back just the amount of stagecraft
28:10
the love of like of i mean i want to say practical
28:15
effects but that's not what i mean because it's
28:17
the early 80s but just the love of like stagecraft
28:22
and right location sets and things like that
28:26
location sets like all that stuff all that stuff
28:28
that very much hearkens to like live theater
28:30
performance is so well done and so beautiful
28:34
and i just love all of it yeah this is definitely
28:39
a cinematic experience that speaks more to kind
28:45
of like that well it's an experience kind of
28:48
film so when i i guess this is what filmmakers
28:52
would be talking about when they criticize marvel
28:55
movies and say like cinema is dead it's like
29:00
yeah well i mean they're totally yeah they're
29:02
different for sure yeah but blockbusters have
29:06
never been put up against like art films either
29:10
it's like that's a stupid way to compare movies
29:12
your summer movies versus your indie films so
29:15
i can get out of here scorsese i did read that
29:20
um apparently the original version of this had
29:23
i think four more musical numbers and focused
29:27
much more on sandman and his brother and the
29:30
relationship with um what's her name lila yeah
29:33
and um the studios were like we want less that
29:40
yeah i was like oh boo i think that might have
29:46
been the version i saw because that version did
29:47
come out in like 2019 yeah there was like a special
29:50
cut So, yeah, it's possible that you did, and
29:54
maybe that's why my audio sucked shit and yours
29:57
was better. I think I just had normal audio.
30:01
Did yours have credits for Francis Ford Coppola
30:03
or Francis Coppola? That was the end of the film.
30:08
I don't know. He's in the beginning, too. He's
30:10
a director. Hold on. Was this on B words, P word?
30:18
We'll cut this part out. No, I like it better
30:21
if we just talk about B words, P word. Yeah,
30:24
we'll keep B words, P word in. That's where you
30:28
watched yours. Yeah. Where did you watch yours?
30:31
Not that. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah. I was all on top
30:34
of the B words, P word. Yeah. I still have had
30:36
a hard time getting any of that to work for me
30:39
ever. Really? So, you know, I don't try that
30:42
hard. Well, that's fair. I can't fast forward
30:44
as well on there. I can't double speed the same
30:46
way I want. You know, yeah. Double speed. amazing
30:50
holy shit so fast it's a tommy gun yeah so can
30:56
we just say like later on in the film we see
30:58
vera's which is like the club dutch bot for his
31:02
side piece uh so much more so much so much less
31:09
interesting than the cotton club yeah it's boring
31:11
it's whitewashed you know yeah no i really enjoyed
31:14
watching like through the years that the film
31:18
takes place the improvements done on the cotton
31:22
club yeah like you get the you know uh strip
31:25
lights on the floor and everything and who those
31:27
murals though oh yeah yeah i understand this
31:33
is a period piece but yeah yeah i did like the
31:37
um cab calloway mini the moocher yep that was
31:41
good that was just like always think about blues
31:43
brothers blues brothers i was just like i just
31:47
watched that i'm like Do I have time to watch
31:48
Blues Brothers before the podcast? Just cram
31:51
that in there. Yes. I watch that movie at least
31:55
once a year. That's one of my favorite all time
31:56
films. It's a great movie. I like it. I think
31:59
I've only watched it once in my life, but I don't
32:02
really watch a lot of things in my life. I don't
32:05
either. Just Nick Cage movies and generally that.
32:09
Yeah, I mean, I suppose at this point, too, we
32:11
don't have to watch as many Nick Cage movies
32:12
again and again. No, there's more. Concept has
32:15
changed. There's more room in my life for sword
32:17
and sorcery. Ooh, I do. We talk about your masturbation
32:22
habits enough. Nope. There's never too much.
32:26
Did you ever play the I think it's an iPhone
32:29
game sword and sorcery. sword and sorcery sword
32:33
and sorcery it's pretty good uh no super brothers
32:37
sword and sorcery okay yeah not bad i don't play
32:40
a lot of mobile games yeah i don't either usually
32:43
but it's like a weird that one scratches that
32:46
itch yeah it's pretty cool uh what's it like
32:49
is it kind of like the old uh oh what was that
32:52
arcade game golden gauntlet or whatever i know
32:56
exactly what you're talking about dragon's lair
32:58
was no i don't know what you're talking about
33:02
yeah i don't know what you're talking it's fine
33:03
there was a gauntlet arcade game golden oh god
33:08
yeah not gauntlet maybe i do know that game yeah
33:12
where there were different classes and stuff
33:15
you could choose yeah i only played that on nes
33:17
oh really i was terrible at it oh i wonder if
33:20
i could get an emulator on my phone for that
33:22
because i would play that that'd be fucking rad
33:24
dude yeah dude i'm about to get so much less
33:27
work done oh yeah especially if i can play the
33:30
game without fucking kid icarus and all that
33:33
shit hell yeah you know what game i would play
33:36
right now bubble bobble yeah yeah i'd bubble
33:41
some that wasn't a constant one in my life i
33:50
didn't play a lot of that uh my formative years
33:53
were around uh altered beast rise from your grave
33:57
that game fucking slaps dude that was second
34:02
right yes yeah okay that was a good game power
34:08
up so that was what there was like the chick
34:10
there was the barbarian and there was the dwarf
34:12
uh was there a dwarf i don't remember maybe i'm
34:15
thinking of a different thing i think it was
34:17
just like the two i might be thinking of a different
34:19
game did you ever run around in like their underwear
34:22
with some chains and then you get like a power
34:23
up and you kind of like go out slightly like
34:26
canthra pick or whatever and then like i'm gonna
34:29
look this up and then you get another one and
34:31
then you're like a full wearman did you ever
34:34
play the dungeons and dragons like beat them
34:40
up like arcade beat them up i think that's what
34:43
i'm thinking There was a Dungeons and Dragons
34:46
arcade beat -em -up from, like, I want to say
34:47
Konami. Like, it was a Japanese game. Was it
34:51
the animated series characters? So it's just
34:53
children beating each other? Original characters,
34:57
but you leveled up. Like, you got experience.
34:59
You leveled up. You collected items. Like, they
35:01
really kind of took the theme. Wow, this sounds
35:04
a lot like Shaq Fu. Like, there's a story, and,
35:10
like, you kind of get better. But the story doesn't.
35:14
Yeah, but the story doesn't because you're Shaq.
35:16
Because it's Shaq Fu, right? I fucking love Shaq
35:18
Fu. So bad. Do you remember? Oh, man, Shaq was
35:23
hot for a minute. It was weird. Do you remember
35:27
when Shaq had the like Arizona like cream sodas
35:31
or whatever? It was like the soda Shaq brand.
35:35
No. Oh, man. And they were giant cans with Shaq
35:38
on them. Yeah. Well, I mean, they were Arizona
35:40
tea size cans. Yeah. Fucking still 99 cents.
35:45
I just remember when they tried to make him a
35:48
movie star. Oh, dude, Man of Steel is still great,
35:53
and so is Kazam. Is it? I've never watched Steel
36:02
all the way through, but it's based on the DC
36:05
character. Does Superman exist in that universe?
36:09
You know, I haven't watched it since theaters.
36:12
I watched it in theater. Oh, boy. I think that
36:16
came. Did that come out the same year as Joe's
36:19
apartment? Oh, probably. Because that's the year
36:22
that my parents sent me down to L .A. to hang
36:24
out with my uncle. And he just didn't know what
36:27
to do with us at work. So he was just like because
36:29
he was like a photographer. He's like, I can't
36:31
have these fucking kids around. I rent half my
36:33
two years apart. Two years. One year apart. OK.
36:37
uh yeah he'd be like i don't know what to do
36:39
with these kids i rent have my fucking studio
36:42
to a porn shop or a porn studio and so he would
36:47
just drop us off at uh the theater in the morning
36:50
we're like 12 year old kids from rural oregon
36:53
and he drops us off at a megaplex in los angeles
36:56
he's like i'll be back in six hours enjoy joe's
37:01
apartment and Whatever else is out right now.
37:03
He'd give us money for one ticket. This is my
37:05
ultra conservative, like Rush Limbaugh listening
37:08
uncle who looks like a shorter, fatter Michael
37:12
Moore. And he'd drop us off at the theater and
37:15
he'd be like, here's enough money for one ticket
37:18
each. I'll see you in six hours. So I can't tell
37:22
you how many times I went back and forth just
37:24
watching Joe's apartment. Like I'd start some
37:26
movie and it's like, this movie sucks. I'm going
37:29
to go. God, my dad's calling me. It's like he
37:32
knows I'm talking about his family. And then
37:36
I just always go back to Joe's apartment. I got
37:38
a real fun fact. I got a real fun fact for the
37:42
kid from Kazam is now just his career is just
37:46
playing like scuzzy mid -level bad guys and things.
37:50
Perfect. Really? Like what was his last scuzzy
37:53
mid -level bad guy role? He was he's in a bunch
37:56
of Veronica Mars. Never seen it. Josie would.
38:00
He was in some bones. Josie would know. Yeah.
38:04
He was in blue bloods. He just plays a gangster.
38:06
He just plays like he's a TV gangster. He's a
38:09
TV gangster. Yes. But he plays like ethnic adjacent
38:13
gangster, like ethnically ambiguous gangster.
38:16
Oh, he's he's the new Ben Kingsley. All right.
38:24
Box office for July 1996. So like a big banger
38:28
summer hit 96. Superstar actors. Well, one and
38:34
then one like. That is now super considered to
38:38
be a great actor. Cool world. No. Big sci -fi
38:44
shenanigan. Aliens invade Earth. Is it Mars attacks?
38:52
No. It's the other one that's not funny. Independence
38:56
Day? Yes. Okay. All right. Who was the big actor
39:01
in that? Jeff Goldblum? Because he was already
39:06
huge. Fucking Earth Women are easy? Come on.
39:08
Will Smith was the big actor for that one. Jeff
39:12
Goldblum was like the good get. Wait, the rapper
39:16
Will Smith? The guy from Parents Just Don't Understand?
39:21
He's rapping again. He put out a new album. Yeah,
39:24
he did. It's badly. There's a great music video
39:28
for it. It's bad. Yeah. So I never cared for
39:32
his rapping. And to be real, if I have to listen
39:34
to summertime one more time, like it's only July
39:38
3rd. If I have to hear summertime one more time
39:42
on the radio. So relevant for us, number seven
39:48
was The Rock. OK. So you maybe went and saw that
39:51
after you saw Joe's apartment. It's possible.
39:54
Joe's apartment is not on this list. That does
39:56
not surprise me. Number 11, Multiplicity. That's
39:59
because you didn't get it all your money. I've
40:01
never seen Multiplicity. Yeah. Did you see Eraser?
40:04
Eraser? Not that summer. With Schwarzenegger.
40:07
Yeah. What about Phenomenon with Travolta? I
40:11
mean, I've seen these films, but not when I was
40:13
11. Right. Striptease probably missed that one.
40:17
I saw Striptease. in theaters well in a drive
40:21
-in uh my dad took us to see uh lion king and
40:25
um blank check as a double feature uh but striptease
40:29
was playing on the screen behind us so none of
40:31
the kids were paying attention to the fucking
40:33
lion king nobody cared about simba's story incredible
40:37
wait did i already say kazam was 12 no okay so
40:40
kazam was 12 Wow. And then later Mission Impossible
40:44
and then Dragonheart, which is what I saw for
40:46
my birthday that year. Kazam outperformed Mission
40:50
Impossible. Mission Impossible came out earlier.
40:53
Oh, OK. So this is still right. It's tailing
40:56
off. I was going to be like, are you fucking
40:58
giving me Shaq? Got a higher opening weekend
41:02
than Tom Cruise. Yeah, no, not the case. Unfortunate.
41:06
Joe's apartment. It was such a shit. Oh, it's
41:10
a terrible movie. Kevin O 'Connell is a terrible
41:12
actor. But all those cockroaches, man. Yeah,
41:17
great. That part was great characters. I miss
41:20
Bob Hoskins. Yeah, Bob Hoskins is great. His
41:23
character is great in this. Also, Shmi. Great
41:27
Shmi. Oh, he was a good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
41:30
of course. Who framed Roger Rabbit? Amazing.
41:33
That's a great, great performance. Bob Hoskins
41:36
rules. Yeah. Yeah. And also in this movie, he
41:39
rules like he's a bad guy and everyone knows
41:41
he's a bad guy, but everyone's also like, yeah,
41:43
he's all right. I like that guy. I love at the
41:46
end of this movie. He's just like, yeah, I'm
41:48
going to get out. I'm going to get out while
41:49
the getting is good. Going to just go back to
41:52
jail for six months and go own a horse farm.
41:55
Yeah. But Frenchie hooked him up. He's like,
41:58
yeah, you're going to love what we got you in
42:01
Sing Sing. It's carpeted or whatever he said.
42:04
Better than whatever you've been dealing with.
42:08
Man, Frenchie. Yeah. What a dude. Fucking baller,
42:10
dude. Oh, wait. We didn't talk about, and I feel
42:13
like we have to mention, the knife to the throat
42:15
scene. Oh, yeah. Frenchie's real, like, exhibition
42:19
of insanity. Or Duchess. Yeah, Duchess. Sorry.
42:24
Frenchie's cool. Yeah. When Dutch, like, just...
42:27
Knives a guy through the throat. Gets on that
42:29
guy. For telling a joke. Granted, a racist and
42:33
anti -Semitic joke, but... Well, he was also,
42:36
like... dutch's former like rival in the game
42:39
like yeah he's competition yeah and they just
42:43
and uh hoskins just brokered peace and dutch
42:47
loses it and like knife through the back like
42:50
front of the throat back of the throat yeah my
42:54
note was oh damn throat stab yeah i started this
43:00
movie uh i started this movie last night kind
43:02
of late and i was just like i don't know if i'm
43:04
getting into this tonight then like you know
43:07
knife to the throat i'm like all right let's
43:10
see where this goes yeah dutch was an interesting
43:12
character i mean i don't think we have to spend
43:14
a ton of time on it but like james remar plays
43:17
a psycho really fucking well yeah yeah he's he's
43:21
played a bad guy in i think every movie i've
43:23
ever seen and it's like the face like his jaw
43:27
just goes down he's pissed off and you can tell
43:31
he's pissed you know it's like he's gonna fucking
43:34
stab you with a knife or like a piece of bone
43:36
from a ham or something you're like i'm not gonna
43:39
fuck around with that guy i like that he gets
43:41
killed in a urinal yeah well kind of well he
43:45
was taking a leak and yeah he got shot he did
43:47
wander out yeah he dies at the table but like
43:50
arguably iced at a urinal yeah yeah again like
43:54
another like weirdly anticlimactic scene like
43:56
he just gets he you know threatens to get dixie
44:00
then Five minutes later is gunned down in a bathroom
44:04
and that and then that story is over. Yeah, I
44:08
resolution, man. The amount of like overkill
44:11
in that scene was impressive to me. It's like
44:14
they shoot those dudes in the head like very
44:17
effectively and then they shoot him a bunch and
44:21
he's presumably dead and they walk out and then
44:23
they Tommy gun everybody a whole bunch to make
44:28
sure that the bullet in the brain didn't do it.
44:31
Yeah. Probably destroy evidence. Just make it
44:33
look a lot messier. Send a message. Destroy evidence.
44:37
Yeah. Well, we want to know which bullet did
44:39
it. Exactly. It's not a professional hit. That's
44:44
true. Amateurs. Yeah. Yeah. They just all have
44:47
these perfect circles in their foreheads. Also,
44:49
you buy a fucking Tommy gun. You use a fucking
44:52
Tommy gun. That's true. That sounds like a lot
44:55
of fun. Yeah. Oh, I was just going to say, with
44:58
both this and Rumblefish, like, The weird attention
45:01
to gory detail in terms of bullet wounds is impressive.
45:06
Yeah. Yeah. Coppola is weird. That's my final
45:10
take on all of this. It's like Coppola is weird.
45:13
Apparently he makes weird movies, very artsy
45:16
movies. I have not seen Megalopolis. I don't
45:19
know. It's a long weekend. Maybe I kind of want
45:22
to now. Yeah, I mean, I'll try it someday, but
45:25
I feel like that needs to be a like a Tenet movie
45:28
where we we try and watch it together. Yeah,
45:31
but it's four hours. Well, we can watch it backwards.
45:34
That's a lot of trying to hang out together all
45:36
at once. That's true. That is a lot. I like these
45:40
in one hour segments. Yeah, like this isn't fucking.
45:43
We'll hang out one hour a week for a month. Oh,
45:48
man, we need to do an Ice Pirates podcast. uh
45:51
yeah just continuously watching ice pirates yes
45:54
and i'm always hung over as shit god i felt like
46:00
death that day but it was the right movie it
46:04
was the right movie for the day uh the set i
46:08
enjoy i love the cinematography i enjoy all of
46:11
the um performances individually um i'm never
46:17
gonna go i'm never gonna re -watch this movie
46:19
for the plot you can just say i'm never gonna
46:24
re -watch this movie that's fine but there are
46:28
definitely scenes i'm going to watch again i'm
46:30
going to watch the end of this movie again i'm
46:32
gonna watch a lot of like the cotton club like
46:35
performances again like there are aspects of
46:37
this movie just visually i want to see again
46:40
i don't give a fuck about the plot of this film
46:42
yeah uh i i could easily take this as I'll never
46:48
watch this movie again, but I enjoyed it more
46:50
than Rumblefish. See, I'm going to watch Rumblefish
46:54
again. I really liked Rumblefish. Yeah, that's
46:57
fine. What you do in Oregon, you can do in Oregon.
47:01
Yeah. Nick Cage drag show. Yeah. Yeah. You have
47:06
to go to that Nick Cage. I have tickets. I bought
47:09
tickets immediately. Perfect. So for the listeners,
47:11
if you live in the Portland area, Clinton Street
47:14
Theater on the 24th of July, Uncaged and Nicolas
47:18
Cage drag show. So that's going to be fucking
47:22
wild. Yeah. Try to figure out which one is Sean.
47:25
I really hope that somebody shows up in the character
47:27
from Zandali when he shows up. Johnny, Jimmy,
47:33
Johnny, whatever. And he shows up and he does
47:35
that thing. Oh, yeah. His hair is backlit. somebody
47:40
i i need to find this clip again somebody shared
47:43
a video with me of a semi -renowned drag king
47:49
who does a nick cage themed performance and i
47:56
can't remember the song but the word or the the
47:59
letter b the word b b was prominent in the song
48:02
but every time that lyric came up it would just
48:04
be like bees the breeze was it How do I live
48:10
without bees? I've got the bees. How do I live?
48:18
Is that it? No. That song sucks then. Yeah, fuck
48:22
that. Yeah, our song kicks ass. Yeah, sorry you
48:25
have a bad song, Sean. Old bad song, Sean. So,
48:31
okay, last thing, because we haven't done this
48:33
in a while, the Cage Performance Grid. Good movie,
48:37
good Cage, bad, good, good, bad, bad, bad, bad,
48:40
good, bad. Close enough. I think Nick Cage is
48:44
pretty good in this. Like I said, this is the
48:48
first time in kind of the start of his career
48:50
where we see, you know, the hints of that character
48:52
actor. And, you know, he doesn't have a lot of
48:55
screen time, but he uses it well. And I'm like,
48:56
yeah, that's Nick Cage. I like it. Yeah, I agree.
48:59
I think Nick Cage does really well. I think it's
49:01
a, you know, I'll even say it's a pretty good
49:03
movie. You have to want that kind of movie. Yeah.
49:06
If you're in the mood for this, I mean, it's
49:08
long. It's yeah. The plot meanders. Yeah. Yeah.
49:12
But it's interesting. I don't remember the last
49:16
time I thought about Richard Gere outside of
49:19
like romantic comedy. The last time I thought
49:20
about Richard Gere was when we recorded Rumble
49:22
Fish and I thought he was in The Outsiders because
49:24
I was reading about Cotton Club earlier. So,
49:28
yeah, that's the last time I thought about Richard
49:31
Gere. I used to have a. oh god what was that
49:35
like so there was a some kind of like form of
49:40
media that looked like giant records you're talking
49:42
about laser disc no they weren't like laser discs
49:45
they looked like vinyl records but they were
49:49
on these weird cassette things that were record
49:51
like slightly larger than a record and inserted
49:54
whoa and i don't know what it is but i used to
49:56
have a copy of breathless on that that i just
50:00
kept because for some reason there was a part
50:02
of my identity that was like oh that's nick he
50:05
likes richard gear movies this was like at the
50:08
height of his like gerbil butt scandal oh yeah
50:10
and i was like yeah nick's big on gerbil but
50:14
like he didn't do it and if he did that's his
50:16
business so patreon supporter josh tell us what
50:20
media nick is talking about because i don't know
50:23
I might still have it. This is the sort of thing
50:26
that I probably never got rid of. I'll look around.
50:29
Yeah. All right. I forgot about the gerbil thing.
50:32
no i never forget about the triple thing whether
50:35
it's true or not doesn't matter yeah whenever
50:38
somebody says when was the last time you thought
50:40
about richard gear like immediately i'm thinking
50:42
about the gerbil things right now whether god
50:44
i love the early free internet where anything
50:48
goes oh yeah no fact checking you can say whatever
50:51
you want i'm sorry for all the people that were
50:54
hurt by it well that's a good point well it's
50:56
easier to disprove things at this point but like
50:59
this is is it Yeah, because there's just more
51:03
sites that are dedicated to disproving stuff.
51:06
But like back in the early 2000s, if somebody
51:09
on the Internet was like, hey, this famous guy
51:13
shoved a gerbil in his butt. Literally, there
51:16
aren't sites being like Richard Gere didn't do
51:19
that. Like the best you could get is like a quote
51:23
or like if he even deigned to respond to this
51:27
sort of thing. Unlikely. Yeah. Of like. I didn't
51:30
put a gerbil in my butt. Like, that's the best
51:32
you can get. Easily disprovable things. It's
51:34
just like, OK, well, I'm going to leave Breitbart
51:37
and I'm going to look at Snopes. I don't know.
51:43
What was the last thing Richard Gere did? I don't
51:46
put a gerbil in his butt. Like we just discussed
51:48
this. Like literally, that's what just happened.
51:50
And then just gerbil in his ass. Yeah. I think
51:54
he's in a constant state of ass gerbiling and
51:57
that's fine. That's his thing. Leave the man
52:01
alone. Leave Richard alone. What if he has like,
52:05
you know, the tubes that you would put a gerbil
52:07
in a cage? What if he has that just like from
52:09
his ass through to like an outlet port? What
52:13
if hold on and stay with me on this one? Yeah,
52:16
I'm right. What if every morning the gerbil tubes
52:19
into his butt like a daily commute, sits down
52:22
at a desk and just pumps out like whatever a
52:26
Richard Gere asked gerbil does for eight hours.
52:29
And at the end of the day, Richard goes back,
52:32
just. beep beep beep backs up into the tube and
52:36
the gerbil comes out like little punch card like
52:39
clocks out for the day it's a tough business
52:41
but you know it's a living yeah okay i'm gonna
52:45
oh that's all folks no i'm gonna pivot i'm gonna
52:49
there's one last thing i want to do i want to
52:52
pitch a new nicholas cage film lord i want a
52:59
sequel to the rock i wanted to feature nicholas
53:03
cage and sean connery's daughter from the film
53:05
and i want them to escape from alligator alcatraz
53:09
okay there's flooding there's gators there's
53:14
weird swamp men it's perfect yeah it tracks i
53:19
like it she's probably getting deported because
53:22
her dad was illegally in the country true yeah
53:25
uh And her birthright citizenship has been removed.
53:30
Yeah. Villainous president. This is great. Yeah.
53:33
I'm in. Yeah. Trump orders a nuke to be dropped
53:37
on Florida because he's a fucking idiot. Exactly.
53:42
Well, if you want to support us making this movie,
53:44
you can support us on Patreon at Cage Match.
53:48
Yeah, we are. Thank you to our Sparkle Buddies.
53:52
Josh, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam, Bill, and Stuart.
53:55
And to our Caged Dancers, Ira, John, Nathan,
53:58
and Cameron. Stuart. Bill. Stuart. Bill. Also,
54:04
another good quote from this movie is, what's
54:07
in that bugle case? Bugle. Yeah. Bye. Bye. oh
54:23
we're gonna have to circle back to this when
54:24
we talk about spider -man now oh yeah for sure
54:27
yeah we'll have a flashback hey peter remember
54:30
to put this in later current peter remember to
54:33
tell future peter to flashback to previous peter
54:36
yeah okay i'll do my best okay cool nice i mean
54:40
fuck we gotta keep this thing going for probably
54:42
at least two more years until the final spider
54:44
-verse movie comes out since nick cage is yeah
54:46
i think that's probably about where we'll die
54:48
yeah The heat death of this podcast and my brain.
54:55
Neat. Yeah.