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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr
- 0:04Speaker 1: the Order, Kernie Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before
- 0:08Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I
- 0:11Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land
- 0:14Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,
- 0:18Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
- 0:22Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing
- 0:27Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for
- 0:30Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
- 0:34Speaker 3: She's on the Money.
- 0:36Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the mo the podcast
- 1:01Speaker 4: for millennials who want financial freedom Today, my friends, is
- 1:05Speaker 4: Friday again comes around every week so strange, which means
- 1:09Speaker 4: it is time to sit back with the girls with
- 1:11Speaker 4: a bev in hand, to unpack the week that was,
- 1:14Speaker 4: and of course to celebrate you how incredible She's on
- 1:18Speaker 4: the Money community. As always, we're going to be sharing
- 1:20Speaker 4: our favorite money wins or Georgia King will be. We
- 1:22Speaker 4: never contribute anything, do we, Jess. We're going to be
- 1:25Speaker 4: discussing what's making news in the finance world, and we
- 1:27Speaker 4: are going to be answering a juicy money question, which
- 1:30Speaker 4: this week is very self indulgent. I mean, I didn't
- 1:33Speaker 4: ask the question, but I'm very happy to answer. It's
- 1:35Speaker 4: about my budgeting cash flow system and how all of
- 1:38Speaker 4: the different bank accounts work and fit together, which I
- 1:41Speaker 4: cannot wait to dive into.
- 1:42Speaker 2: But before we.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Get their, miss Jessicarichi, tell us what happened on our
- 1:47Speaker 4: Monday's Money.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Diary this week.
- 1:49Speaker 3: We had a beautiful multi mother of two who worked
- 1:52Speaker 3: in emergency services and she had an egg donor.
- 1:54Speaker 4: An actual queen, and it was a really.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Unique situation because she spoke about this couple who put
- 2:01Speaker 3: a call out online trying to find a donor because
- 2:04Speaker 3: they wanted someone who.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Had the same heritage.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, like they wanted, I guess for their
- 2:10Speaker 3: family to follow that lineage in a sense. And she
- 2:14Speaker 3: reached out because she fit the description of what they
- 2:16Speaker 3: were looking for. And she developed this relationship with this
- 2:20Speaker 3: couple and she you know, had their child and they're
- 2:22Speaker 3: still in contact and it was such an it made
- 2:25Speaker 3: my heart so happy. Oh my god, it was really
- 2:28Speaker 3: really special. And the way she spoke about it. She
- 2:31Speaker 3: was so passionate about giving a family an opportunity to
- 2:35Speaker 3: have a child that they couldn't have by themselves. And
- 2:38Speaker 3: she was really open, and to be honest, I didn't
- 2:40Speaker 3: know a lot about any of the egg donor or
- 2:44Speaker 3: like any of that process, and she was really happy
- 2:46Speaker 3: to share what it was like and how that worked financially,
- 2:49Speaker 3: and we.
- 2:49Speaker 4: Asked a lot of really intimate questions and she's so
- 2:52Speaker 4: grateful for But you know, this whole week, I've just
- 2:55Speaker 4: been thinking like, oh my gosh, Like there was this
- 2:58Speaker 4: gay couple who weren't sure if they could have a
- 3:00Speaker 4: baby worked out the process and them were like, oh,
- 3:03Speaker 4: we just don't know. Like we've worked out how we
- 3:06Speaker 4: go through the process. We've found someone who can be
- 3:08Speaker 4: the surrogate, but is any way we can intertwine our
- 3:11Speaker 4: heritage into this. They put this call out out and
- 3:15Speaker 4: had her reply and she was like the perfect match
- 3:17Speaker 4: for them, And so now they have babies and they
- 3:20Speaker 4: can have another one. They have babies with the same
- 3:23Speaker 4: heritage as they have, And I just think that is
- 3:25Speaker 4: so beautiful because that's a reality that a lot of
- 3:28Speaker 4: people in our community who are in those circumstances can't get.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And it was really cool that they had a relationship
- 3:34Speaker 3: because obviously when you do egg donorship, you're not always
- 3:37Speaker 3: in the picture.
- 3:38Speaker 2: So it was I felt like a really unique take
- 3:40Speaker 2: and I was, Yeah, I just didn't know there was
- 3:42Speaker 2: so much to it either.
- 3:43Speaker 4: I didn't realize that when you go, all right, I'm
- 3:45Speaker 4: going to donate an egg, there were like open egg
- 3:48Speaker 4: donations and closed eg donation.
- 3:50Speaker 2: It was very much like adoption in a.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Way, and I just I hadn't ever thought about the
- 3:54Speaker 4: semantics of that, and I was just like, this is
- 3:57Speaker 4: such a cool process. The most interesting question though, I
- 4:00Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, how you met the child?
- 4:02Speaker 4: Like how did you feel? And she was like she
- 4:03Speaker 4: was just another really special girl.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Like I just I love it anyway, really cool, really
- 4:09Speaker 3: really unique.
- 4:10Speaker 1: One.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Yeah, epic money story, but from one epic money story
- 4:14Speaker 4: straight into our epic Wednesday deep dive Georgia King.
- 4:16Speaker 2: What did we cover this week?
- 4:18Speaker 5: We went really deep into the subject of financial trauma.
- 4:23Speaker 5: So that's characterized as a dysfunctional reaction to chronic financial stress.
- 4:28Speaker 5: So we went through exactly what it is, what it
- 4:31Speaker 5: looks like. We learned that it's actually very similar in
- 4:34Speaker 5: its indicators to what people with post traumatic stress experience. Like,
- 4:38Speaker 5: it's a very serious thing, and we kind of spoke
- 4:41Speaker 5: about how the term trauma is often kind of used
- 4:45Speaker 5: a bit frivolously in twenty twenty two, but financial trauma
- 4:48Speaker 5: is a very real thing, and we have seen this
- 4:51Speaker 5: week so many dms of people that have really resonated
- 4:53Speaker 5: with this topic, which we didn't expect. So yeah, if
- 4:56Speaker 5: you think that that's something that you may struggle with,
- 4:59Speaker 5: definitely have a I.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Was really worried about this episode coming up because sometimes
- 5:04Speaker 4: topics like this can be really confronting. Yeah, it's kind
- 5:07Speaker 4: of like, hey, gee, here's this episode and she's on
- 5:09Speaker 4: the money, and you might have you know, been happy
- 5:11Speaker 4: listening to content and not really thought about it, and
- 5:14Speaker 4: then you're confronted with all these indicators that you really
- 5:16Speaker 4: align with and you're like, oh my gosh, I didn't
- 5:18Speaker 4: realize that I've actually been through this and this is
- 5:20Speaker 4: the thing negatively impacting me. It can actually raise, you know,
- 5:24Speaker 4: a fair bit of trauma, which obviously we provided some
- 5:27Speaker 4: financial counseling resources for that. But I think the best
- 5:30Speaker 4: thing you can do is actually just talk about it.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Talk about it.
- 5:32Speaker 4: With someone, reach out to our Debt Free Helpline for
- 5:35Speaker 4: some free financial counseling. If you're in that circumstance, reach
- 5:39Speaker 4: out to a therapist, talk to your GP. I just
- 5:41Speaker 4: think that there are so many conversations to be had,
- 5:44Speaker 4: but thankfully, if you've been able to identify it, we
- 5:47Speaker 4: can work on it. And that's a really great outcome
- 5:49Speaker 4: for anyone who found themselves in that position this week.
- 5:51Speaker 2: So love you.
- 5:52Speaker 5: Guys one hundred percent.
- 5:54Speaker 4: All right, Georgia King, I think it is time to
- 5:57Speaker 4: pivot into some lighter content now. I want to know
- 6:00Speaker 4: what are our budget Direct money wins this week.
- 6:02Speaker 5: Well, we've got some goodies, ladies. The first one of
- 6:05Speaker 5: the week comes from Alex money Win. I was looking
- 6:07Speaker 5: at accommodation in London for Christmas and New Year's for
- 6:10Speaker 5: about three.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Thousand dollars London, so expensive, getcha.
- 6:14Speaker 5: I ended up downloading an app and I found a
- 6:17Speaker 5: house sitting gig in the same locations in the same
- 6:20Speaker 5: time frame for free, for free. It is a hot,
- 6:23Speaker 5: gosh genius smart for Christmas and New Year's because so
- 6:26Speaker 5: many people are going to be away.
- 6:28Speaker 2: House sitting gigs.
- 6:29Speaker 4: I wouldn't have even considered looking for a house sitting gig.
- 6:32Speaker 2: If I was traveling.
- 6:33Speaker 3: We spoke about pet sitting we did a few weeks ago,
- 6:35Speaker 3: and house sitting, I would argue, is like even better.
- 6:38Speaker 2: House sitting is Do you reckon it?
- 6:40Speaker 4: Can start planning my holidays around random locations in the
- 6:43Speaker 4: world that people need their houses. Do you know what
- 6:46Speaker 4: I would travel for a pet Mike? If you said, hey,
- 6:48Speaker 4: I live in Italy. These are my random dates of leave.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Can you please come look after my dog? Probably be
- 6:54Speaker 4: there with absolutely What a joy. The next week comes
- 6:57Speaker 4: from aerin. After having a credit card for twenty years,
- 7:00Speaker 4: I finally paid it off and cut it to.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Shrinks yees, twenty years, What a queen? How good?
- 7:05Speaker 5: The next win comes from Anna money win. Okay, it's
- 7:08Speaker 5: a bit of a long one strap.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Ready, We're ready, money win.
- 7:11Speaker 5: I dye my hair with a supermarket hair dye. I
- 7:13Speaker 5: always checked the reduced section at the supermarket and I
- 7:16Speaker 5: happened to find the hair dye that I buy a
- 7:18Speaker 5: few days ago. It had that very tasty price of
- 7:21Speaker 5: five dollars.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Money win.
- 7:23Speaker 5: Then I went to the self checkout to see it
- 7:25Speaker 5: scan for over eleven dollars. I stood there thinking, do
- 7:28Speaker 5: I just suck it up pay that amount, or do
- 7:30Speaker 5: I get a staff member to come over and change
- 7:32Speaker 5: the price. As I grabbed three packets, it would have
- 7:35Speaker 5: been over eighteen dollars extra then the advertised reduced price.
- 7:38Speaker 5: So I called over a staffer and she asked the price.
- 7:41Speaker 5: I replied five dollars something, and she said, how does
- 7:44Speaker 5: five dollars for the lot sound?
- 7:46Speaker 4: So money?
- 7:51Speaker 6: It was?
- 7:51Speaker 5: It was definitely worth it. Well done to you, Anna.
- 7:53Speaker 5: The next wind comes from Caitlin money Win. I'm moving
- 7:56Speaker 5: in with my boyfriend and when I called to move
- 7:59Speaker 5: my current insurance, I got a five hundred and seventy
- 8:01Speaker 5: dollars refund money win straight into the car account for
- 8:05Speaker 5: next year's renewal. Would that be because maybe the parking's
- 8:07Speaker 5: not on street or something like that.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Risk.
- 8:10Speaker 4: Yeah, and different postcodes have different like risk associated with them,
- 8:15Speaker 4: and the closer you are to the city, the more
- 8:17Speaker 4: likely you are to have a higher risk profile and
- 8:20Speaker 4: therefore more insurance to pay, which means that my parents
- 8:22Speaker 4: have really good insurance and I kind of want to
- 8:25Speaker 4: move home just for that. Yeah.
- 8:26Speaker 5: The next week it comes from Luara money. When I
- 8:29Speaker 5: was walking down at the food court in the shopping
- 8:32Speaker 5: mall with my husband, and I saw fifty dollars laying
- 8:34Speaker 5: on the floor. My husband a trap stuck to a
- 8:38Speaker 5: bit of fishing.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Line, someone pulling it along along the floor.
- 8:43Speaker 5: My husband picked it up and asked the people around
- 8:45Speaker 5: if someone had dropped it. None of them had. In fact,
- 8:48Speaker 5: they said, you found it, it's.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Yours signers, keepers.
- 8:53Speaker 5: Losers, weepers. Indeed, so she's fifty dollars richer. While walking
- 8:56Speaker 5: around the mall. On that note, ladies, I saw a
- 8:59Speaker 5: one dollar coin?
- 9:00Speaker 2: Was it super glued to the ground.
- 9:02Speaker 5: I didn't pick it up? And I was like, you
- 9:04Speaker 5: have grown up, George, because I felt like a tight ass.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I don't care how old.
- 9:09Speaker 4: But I also think it's really sweet. I think it's
- 9:10Speaker 4: like passing on the lock to somebody else that makes
- 9:13Speaker 4: really sweet. It's also this whole conversation about finding money
- 9:17Speaker 4: on the ground reminds me of the boys I went
- 9:19Speaker 4: to school with. I remember in grade eleven in the
- 9:21Speaker 4: lock area, the boys with super glued two dollar coins
- 9:24Speaker 4: to the ground, like people try and pick it up
- 9:30Speaker 4: and then like make fun of them. Bullying has progressed
- 9:33Speaker 4: since then.
- 9:34Speaker 2: It seems brilliant.
- 9:36Speaker 5: That takes us to the last win slash loss of
- 9:39Speaker 5: the day. It comes from Gen money loss.
- 9:42Speaker 2: This is so good.
- 9:43Speaker 5: I got drunk on a fourteen hour flight from Melbourne
- 9:46Speaker 5: to Dubai and I paid two point seven k for
- 9:49Speaker 5: an upgrade to business Harris money win. I'm now extremely
- 9:56Speaker 5: motivated to actually be able to afford to fly business class.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Can you imagine? And it's funny because she would have
- 10:03Speaker 4: been having the time of her life dreams.
- 10:05Speaker 2: On the plane.
- 10:05Speaker 4: They're free, absolutely like having a whole other time to
- 10:09Speaker 4: then upgrade and then when you're sober, up it. But
- 10:11Speaker 4: you're like, cookie, error, I've made a horrible flight from Dubai.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Parents would have thought you would have wanted to have
- 10:17Speaker 3: done it in Australia.
- 10:19Speaker 2: How goes it? Is it ten hours?
- 10:22Speaker 4: It's a long time. It's definitely a long time. So
- 10:25Speaker 4: it would have been an expensive flight. Just she was
- 10:28Speaker 4: living our dreams. We flew to America recently and we
- 10:31Speaker 4: were like, oh, maybe we treat ourselves.
- 10:33Speaker 2: It is a business trip.
- 10:34Speaker 4: We'll see how much more expensive.
- 10:35Speaker 2: It is here we are.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Turns out we had rocks in our heads because we're like, okay,
- 10:40Speaker 4: it's a preally going to be expensive, right, because we
- 10:43Speaker 4: were booking last minute flights to the US, which is
- 10:45Speaker 4: entirely my fault because I had left it so late.
- 10:48Speaker 4: So our flights each were like two and a half
- 10:50Speaker 4: nearly three thousand dollars each return to LA which is disgusting.
- 10:53Speaker 4: But we went to a finance conference and hopefully we've
- 10:55Speaker 4: brought home this newfound knowledge, which is and she's on
- 10:59Speaker 4: the money. Were actually it's not that much more to
- 11:01Speaker 4: fly business like. We're already nearly three thousand dollars deep
- 11:05Speaker 4: each at this point, and by each, I mean six
- 11:08Speaker 4: thousand dollars deep, because I'm the business owner.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Okay for this, Yeah.
- 11:12Speaker 4: For ten thousand dollars a flight, I think not rastus.
- 11:15Speaker 4: You will sit in an economy class and you will enjoy.
- 11:18Speaker 2: It, that's all right.
- 11:19Speaker 3: I invested in a lot of like plane lutch, like
- 11:21Speaker 3: a foot hammock and like a fe yes, which is
- 11:26Speaker 3: basically business class.
- 11:27Speaker 5: It was that ten thousand, exactly ten thousand dollars pertic.
- 11:30Speaker 4: It was I think it was like thirteen thousand per
- 11:34Speaker 4: ticket to the US, and if you want to fly first,
- 11:36Speaker 4: that was like twenty six thousand dollars.
- 11:39Speaker 2: And I nearly was sick.
- 11:40Speaker 4: I thought it was a joke at the start, and
- 11:41Speaker 4: then I was like, Noah, yes, it's fine, because that
- 11:43Speaker 4: must be our tickets combined.
- 11:45Speaker 2: It wasn't.
- 11:45Speaker 4: It was eventually, so yeah, we bought foot Hammocks on
- 11:49Speaker 4: Amazon Primo. Basically a business class experience.
- 11:53Speaker 5: That is all for the Wins today.
- 11:54Speaker 4: Lady speaking as always, it has been great celebrating some
- 11:57Speaker 4: of your budget Direct money wins. Budget Direct winner can
- 12:00Speaker 4: Star's Insurer of the Year Award twenty twenty to the
- 12:03Speaker 4: fancy guys Budget Direct Insurance solved.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Let's go to a.
- 12:07Speaker 4: Really quick break and after the break we are going
- 12:09Speaker 4: to be talking about the budget and cash Flow masterclass
- 12:11Speaker 4: and the bank accounts associated with that, and we also
- 12:14Speaker 4: have some juicy news to share with you guys. Don't
- 12:16Speaker 4: go anywhere. Okay, gals, we did it again. Recently, we
- 12:25Speaker 4: pissed off some people on Instagram.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Was it me to pay? No, it wasn't. After pay.
- 12:32Speaker 3: We were talking about equal pay because it's Equal Pay
- 12:34Speaker 3: Day a couple of weeks ago, and the conversation is
- 12:36Speaker 3: still going on in our dams. So the day that
- 12:40Speaker 3: we posted it, so this would have been two weeks
- 12:42Speaker 3: weeks ago. Yeah, but the day that we posted it
- 12:45Speaker 3: it was the sixtieth day after the end of the
- 12:47Speaker 3: financial yarch. It is on that day because it's representative
- 12:50Speaker 3: of the sixty extra days that women must work on
- 12:53Speaker 3: average in Australia to earn the same annual salary the'se
- 12:55Speaker 3: earned by men, So women are under earning. Essentially, women
- 13:00Speaker 3: I have to work sixty more days, one four hundred
- 13:02Speaker 3: and forty more hours or eighty six thousand, four hundred
- 13:06Speaker 3: more minutes to earn the same amount as a man.
- 13:09Speaker 3: And the bad news is that the pay gap this
- 13:11Speaker 3: year went up. Last year went down. We were like, yes,
- 13:14Speaker 3: pro pross, we love progress, not this year. So it
- 13:17Speaker 3: actually went up zero point three percentage points over the
- 13:21Speaker 3: last six months, which is really sad and kind.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Of shitty to hear.
- 13:25Speaker 3: And people are up in our dms telling me that
- 13:28Speaker 3: the gender pay GAP's not real and that's really tough.
- 13:31Speaker 3: But also I thought, good chance for us to kind
- 13:33Speaker 3: of run over what can people do right because we've
- 13:37Speaker 3: spoken about this before, We've spoken about the wage gap before,
- 13:39Speaker 3: the pay gap before. I'm not even here to have
- 13:41Speaker 3: the argument today about whether or not it's real because
- 13:43Speaker 3: we've done it and it is. And if you don't
- 13:45Speaker 3: like it go to double away.
- 13:49Speaker 4: It's actually very funny because over the last few weeks,
- 13:52Speaker 4: I've been getting sent screen shots from people that follow
- 13:55Speaker 4: me saying, Hey, here's a screenshot of someone replying to
- 13:59Speaker 4: my story because shared your post that you put on
- 14:01Speaker 4: cheese on the money. And they're like, oh, this doesn't exist,
- 14:03Speaker 4: and they're just like block and delete, block and delete.
- 14:05Speaker 4: And my one girl replied to me and was like, Hey,
- 14:07Speaker 4: this is the guy that I've been going on dates with,
- 14:10Speaker 4: more dates for you And I was like, yes, queen.
- 14:12Speaker 3: That is if he doesn't believe in the gender pay
- 14:14Speaker 3: gap red flag.
- 14:16Speaker 4: Just ask if you're on a dating app, just go
- 14:18Speaker 4: what do you think of the gender pay gap? That
- 14:19Speaker 4: will tell you whether you should go on a date
- 14:21Speaker 4: with them or not. Don't waste your time asking it on.
- 14:23Speaker 2: A first date. Get it done up front. Genius one
- 14:26Speaker 2: thousand percent.
- 14:26Speaker 3: But the WGEO website, if you're a nonbeliever or if
- 14:29Speaker 3: you know a non believer, send them there because it
- 14:30Speaker 3: is a government website worth acknowledging. How that these stats
- 14:35Speaker 3: also don't take into account or don't currently recognize, the
- 14:38Speaker 3: even larger gap for women of color. Because we know
- 14:42Speaker 3: that there is an even bigger disparity there, but we
- 14:44Speaker 3: don't have the hard darted back it up, and it's
- 14:46Speaker 3: something we would love to see more research into for
- 14:49Speaker 3: our first nations women as well. Again, that gap is
- 14:51Speaker 3: very broad. However, today VD I thought we could talk
- 14:55Speaker 3: about tangible action we can take because I am so
- 14:58Speaker 3: sick of seeing the p people saying it's not a thing.
- 15:01Speaker 3: So I want to talk about what can we do
- 15:02Speaker 3: to make a difference. Jess is sick of it, so
- 15:05Speaker 3: we are dealing with it.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I love it.
- 15:07Speaker 4: There's a lot we can do about it, to be honest,
- 15:09Speaker 4: but it's also about awareness and that's what days like
- 15:12Speaker 4: Equal Payday bring to light, right, It's about bringing to
- 15:14Speaker 4: light the fact that it exists. And it shouldn't just
- 15:17Speaker 4: be our burden as women to carry because we earn less.
- 15:20Speaker 4: It should be everybody's burden to carry, because at the
- 15:23Speaker 4: end of the day, if it's happening in our society,
- 15:25Speaker 4: it's a societal problem, not just a women's problem. So
- 15:28Speaker 4: I think that education is key. I mean, I probably
- 15:31Speaker 4: wouldn't get in DM arguments with people who don't believe
- 15:34Speaker 4: in the gender pay gap because they don't deserve your
- 15:37Speaker 4: explanation because it is very easy to google. I'm actually
- 15:40Speaker 4: really sick of hearing it doesn't exist. Oh my gosh,
- 15:43Speaker 4: you haven't included this stat or oh this chart you've
- 15:45Speaker 4: posted doesn't include the fact that women take on less hours.
- 15:48Speaker 4: It's actually not about that. It's the fact that women
- 15:50Speaker 4: are still behind men. And what we want is not
- 15:53Speaker 4: actually for women to be above and beyond men. I'm
- 15:56Speaker 4: just asking for the exact same opportunities and to be
- 15:59Speaker 4: paid this as a man would in exactly the same
- 16:02Speaker 4: role if I have the same credentials and experience. Oh
- 16:05Speaker 4: but it's a legal to do that, So, Jessica, people
- 16:10Speaker 4: are still doing meth, aren't they. So it doesn't matter
- 16:13Speaker 4: that it is illegal. It is still happening, and I
- 16:16Speaker 4: think that we need to talk about it. We know
- 16:17Speaker 4: the cause is let's not talk about it. Is now
- 16:20Speaker 4: time for action. How do we work towards closing that gap?
- 16:23Speaker 4: One education, talking about it too, being really open and
- 16:27Speaker 4: honest about what we earn. Something that I've seen over
- 16:30Speaker 4: the last few weeks is people talking about, oh, well,
- 16:32Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to share my pay. Okay, mediocre middle
- 16:35Speaker 4: aged white man who doesn't think that anyone should know
- 16:38Speaker 4: what you earn because it's personal information. But do you
- 16:41Speaker 4: know that could change the life of the woman that
- 16:43Speaker 4: sits down the hallway from you. Do you know that
- 16:45Speaker 4: that could put someone in a better position so that
- 16:47Speaker 4: they're not homeless in retirement? Like I just think I
- 16:50Speaker 4: know it exactly, exactly, and I have so much respect
- 16:53Speaker 4: for that. And if you genuinely think that your personal
- 16:56Speaker 4: value is so tied to your income that hiding it
- 16:59Speaker 4: is more important than putting other people in a better position,
- 17:03Speaker 4: You've got rocks in your head. In there is a
- 17:04Speaker 4: far big issue at play. We're at the point where
- 17:06Speaker 4: we know what's contributing to it and we need to
- 17:08Speaker 4: actually action it. And you did a really great post
- 17:11Speaker 4: the other day just on the She's on the Money page,
- 17:14Speaker 4: and you talked about things like conducting a pay gap audit,
- 17:17Speaker 4: developing an action plan, and establishing accountabilities, which sounds really
- 17:21Speaker 4: formal if I'm honest, but talking about it. If you
- 17:24Speaker 4: work in HR, bring this up as a conversation for
- 17:26Speaker 4: your organization to be able to be champions in this
- 17:29Speaker 4: space as opposed to just you know, people that follow
- 17:32Speaker 4: the flow. If you want to talk to your friends,
- 17:34Speaker 4: if you want to talk to your colleagues about it.
- 17:36Speaker 4: I think it is really important. Another thing I do,
- 17:38Speaker 4: which wasn't on the list, check your contract. Do you
- 17:41Speaker 4: have pay secrecy? Why does your company have pay secrecy?
- 17:45Speaker 4: Something that I am strongly campaigning for is that that
- 17:48Speaker 4: is removed from employment contracts because what are you hiding?
- 17:51Speaker 2: Guys?
- 17:52Speaker 4: Why shouldn't your employees talk about their salary?
- 17:55Speaker 1: Oh?
- 17:55Speaker 4: Because it impacts you and you might have to pay
- 17:57Speaker 4: them all equally.
- 17:58Speaker 2: That would be such a shame.
- 18:00Speaker 4: The other thing that you said in here, Jess, was
- 18:02Speaker 4: set targets to promote gender equality at all levels of
- 18:05Speaker 4: the organization, which.
- 18:06Speaker 2: I think just should be. It's twenty twenty two, guys,
- 18:09Speaker 2: why is this not happening.
- 18:10Speaker 5: One hundred percent? Some more ideas, guys, include changing what
- 18:14Speaker 5: leadership roles actually look like, so making them part time,
- 18:17Speaker 5: making them more flexible so that women who might also
- 18:20Speaker 5: be the primary carer in the home can actually work
- 18:23Speaker 5: in those higher paid roles.
- 18:26Speaker 4: But Georgia, that's why women don't get paid as much,
- 18:28Speaker 4: because they have more caring responsibilities.
- 18:30Speaker 5: I hate that so much. Unpaid, we get out all
- 18:33Speaker 5: the time.
- 18:34Speaker 4: Yeah, we're actually doing double time. So, like I go
- 18:37Speaker 4: to work. I do my full time job. I don't personally,
- 18:39Speaker 4: I'm not a mum yet. But a lot of women
- 18:41Speaker 4: in our community go to work, they do their full
- 18:42Speaker 4: time job, then they go home and do a full
- 18:44Speaker 4: time job. Literally they do do more caring roles. But
- 18:47Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they can't be the CEO exactly.
- 18:50Speaker 5: I do not understand how people don't understand, just don't get.
- 18:55Speaker 4: I'm just so confunded, babe, I'm speaking English.
- 18:58Speaker 5: Yeah, what are they not getting? And another idea would
- 19:01Speaker 5: of course be introducing a better gender neutral paid parental
- 19:05Speaker 5: leave policy so that we can all take part in
- 19:08Speaker 5: the parenting at home situation instead of it.
- 19:10Speaker 2: I think they're women.
- 19:11Speaker 4: I think that that's a really important one as well,
- 19:13Speaker 4: and I'm glad that you put it on the list, yes,
- 19:15Speaker 4: because I think that we don't understand that neutral paid
- 19:18Speaker 4: parental leave policies don't necessarily mean oh my gosh, you're
- 19:22Speaker 4: giving the man the opportunity. It's actually because if I'm
- 19:25Speaker 4: in a relationship, let's saying twelve months, guys, I turn
- 19:27Speaker 4: around to you and say, look, I'm pregnant, and Steve
- 19:30Speaker 4: and I have looked at his parental leave policy in
- 19:32Speaker 4: mine and Matt leaves just better. So we're going to
- 19:35Speaker 4: put me out of the workforce because the policy is
- 19:37Speaker 4: just better.
- 19:38Speaker 2: That's how it works.
- 19:39Speaker 4: That's a decision that a lot of people in our
- 19:41Speaker 4: community make, and I genuinely believe it shouldn't come down
- 19:44Speaker 4: to who has the better Matt leave policy. It should
- 19:46Speaker 4: just be if you're the dad or you're the mum,
- 19:48Speaker 4: you're the primary care give but you can take that leave.
- 19:51Speaker 4: I just it doesn't make any sense to me that, oh, sorry,
- 19:54Speaker 4: that you're the dad, you can't actually take the leave
- 19:57Speaker 4: that we would give to the women in this organization.
- 20:00Speaker 3: And we are making strides with that with parental sever
- 20:02Speaker 3: rules now. But I think ultimately the big goal is
- 20:06Speaker 3: rally together for change, because ultimately, you know, it benefits
- 20:10Speaker 3: everyone to be putting women in these positions of power.
- 20:13Speaker 3: And I know people are resistance change and whatever, but firstly,
- 20:15Speaker 3: stop coming to our DM. I'm telling me the pay
- 20:17Speaker 3: GAP's not real because I will fight you, but no
- 20:19Speaker 3: I won't because I'm soft.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Nott make Victoria fight you for me.
- 20:22Speaker 3: But also have those conversations, support them and talk to
- 20:25Speaker 3: your partners. Talk to them men in your life, your brothers,
- 20:28Speaker 3: your dads, your cousins, because we need them to be
- 20:31Speaker 3: standing up as well. It can't just be women. We
- 20:34Speaker 3: need everybody getting on the same page and saying, yeah, like,
- 20:37Speaker 3: let's make some change. Let's get that percentage below ten
- 20:40Speaker 3: percent at least twenty twenty three.
- 20:42Speaker 4: And understand it now. Yeah, but also just genuinely understand
- 20:46Speaker 4: what it means as well, because we've had a few
- 20:48Speaker 4: people who have messaged us and they're like, yeah, but
- 20:50Speaker 4: I want to work Cless. Good, But your friends who
- 20:53Speaker 4: don't want to work Cless should get the same opportunity. Like,
- 20:56Speaker 4: I don't mind what your personal values are. What I
- 20:59Speaker 4: want is for you to have freedom of choice and
- 21:01Speaker 4: that choice not be compromised or that choice not be
- 21:05Speaker 4: equal to that of somebody else who just has a
- 21:07Speaker 4: different gender.
- 21:08Speaker 3: All Right, we gotta put a pin in it because
- 21:10Speaker 3: I'm getting around.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Even recently.
- 21:13Speaker 4: This was weeks ago and we're still writing in the
- 21:16Speaker 4: office about it. I reckon, it's time to listen to
- 21:18Speaker 4: our money dilemma.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Hi, there, have you got.
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- 21:43Speaker 6: In your book, it talks about setting up different bank
- 21:46Speaker 6: accounts for different things such as expenses, emergency, blow card,
- 21:51Speaker 6: et cetera. Do I still do that if I have
- 21:54Speaker 6: an offset account? Or should I be putting everything into
- 21:57Speaker 6: the offset account?
- 21:58Speaker 3: Victoria Vine, I know I never remember you mentioning a
- 22:01Speaker 3: blow account.
- 22:02Speaker 2: No, but I heard that there.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Was this guy who didn't wear shoes who did recommend
- 22:06Speaker 4: a blow account.
- 22:07Speaker 2: But you do you.
- 22:08Speaker 4: We don't have a mojo either, but what we do
- 22:11Speaker 4: have is a she's on the money, budget and cash
- 22:12Speaker 4: flow plan. I can talk about that. Would you want
- 22:15Speaker 4: me to talk about that? Absolutely fantastic, So, really good question. Yes,
- 22:19Speaker 4: it is exactly the same whether you have an offset
- 22:22Speaker 4: account or not. In fact, with that system, if you
- 22:25Speaker 4: have an offset account, it arguably turbocharges every single dollar
- 22:29Speaker 4: in your account. So with the budget and cash flow
- 22:32Speaker 4: plan that you're asking about, and to be honest, I
- 22:34Speaker 4: came up with her, I think it's pretty genius bias, Jess.
- 22:37Speaker 4: You use it, you think it's good. You have obviously
- 22:39Speaker 4: added your own flare to it, which I love. But
- 22:41Speaker 4: it's a very good from my perspective base of how
- 22:44Speaker 4: a cash flow system works to make sure that every
- 22:47Speaker 4: single dollar that comes into your account is utilized properly,
- 22:50Speaker 4: and that every single dollar that comes into your account
- 22:53Speaker 4: works as hard as you do for it. Right. So
- 22:55Speaker 4: the first thing, I'm just going to explain the whole thing,
- 22:57Speaker 4: because I'm sure that there are people who are listening
- 22:59Speaker 4: who are like I have. I've never seen your plan.
- 23:01Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. So essentially, you have
- 23:03Speaker 4: what's called a cash hub, and I've called it a
- 23:05Speaker 4: cash hub because it's basically the one stop shop where
- 23:08Speaker 4: all of your money goes. Whether you are a freelancer
- 23:11Speaker 4: or you are, you know, a full time employee, or
- 23:14Speaker 4: maybe you're both. All your personal income goes into this.
- 23:17Speaker 4: If you're a business owner, though, different cash flow system,
- 23:19Speaker 4: you need to work that out. We never mix our
- 23:21Speaker 4: personal and our business banking. So your cash hub exists
- 23:25Speaker 4: for all income to be banked into on a weekly, fortnightly,
- 23:29Speaker 4: monthly basis, doesn't matter it automatically calculates that for you.
- 23:32Speaker 4: If it is just a regular savings account, fantastic. If
- 23:36Speaker 4: it is an offset account, every dollar that goes into
- 23:39Speaker 4: that account is actually offsetting the money that you owe
- 23:42Speaker 4: on your mortgage, which.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Is the money win.
- 23:44Speaker 4: Right. So if you're in a position where you don't
- 23:47Speaker 4: have an offset and you're like, oh, Victoria, that sounds
- 23:48Speaker 4: pretty sexy, talk to your mortgage broker. And when I
- 23:50Speaker 4: say your mortgage broker, I'm talking about Kate brands Growth,
- 23:53Speaker 4: who is the Zela mortgage broker, because he's obviously supreme.
- 23:56Speaker 4: But every dollar goes into your cash hub. That cash
- 23:58Speaker 4: hub exists, and then all bills and fixed costs are
- 24:02Speaker 4: paid from that cash hub via direct debit or be
- 24:05Speaker 4: paid directly from your cash hub. So you've organized it.
- 24:09Speaker 4: You know your budget, you know how many dollars come
- 24:11Speaker 4: in each month, week, fortnite, whatever it is, and all
- 24:14Speaker 4: your bills are directly taken out of that cash hub.
- 24:18Speaker 2: You know that figure.
- 24:19Speaker 4: So you might have twenty nine hundred dollars a fortnite
- 24:22Speaker 4: coming into that account, and you might know as well
- 24:25Speaker 4: that six hundred dollars per month are bills, and that
- 24:27Speaker 4: might be for your rent. It might be for your phone,
- 24:30Speaker 4: your internet, your insurance, your utilities, your red Joe. This
- 24:34Speaker 4: is that cash hub that exists to capture every single dollar,
- 24:38Speaker 4: and it kind of acts like a basket so that
- 24:40Speaker 4: nothing filters away, because honestly, money is kind of like sand,
- 24:44Speaker 4: and if you don't have a good plan for it,
- 24:45Speaker 4: it literally just blows away. Then you're going to have
- 24:48Speaker 4: your weekly spending amount. And your weekly spending amount is
- 24:51Speaker 4: an amount of money that exists for you to have,
- 24:55Speaker 4: and I always call it the food, fuel, and Fun
- 24:56Speaker 4: account because that's what pays to your groceries, you're entertained,
- 25:00Speaker 4: and your transport, so Jess in your example, it might
- 25:03Speaker 4: be for your groceries, for whatever you pay for Frisbee,
- 25:06Speaker 4: for your shoes, for your clothes, for whatever you're buying
- 25:08Speaker 4: at Sephora. You know, because you've done a good budget,
- 25:12Speaker 4: how much on average that costs per week, and you
- 25:14Speaker 4: transfer each and every single week that amount of money
- 25:17Speaker 4: to that account. That now means that you're not dipping
- 25:21Speaker 4: into your cash hub and accidentally spending the money that
- 25:23Speaker 4: you're meant to have reserved for your car, redge oh
- 25:26Speaker 4: or your health insurance or whatever you need to pay.
- 25:29Speaker 4: You know that maybe each and every single week you
- 25:31Speaker 4: have two hundred and eighty dollars to spend on food, fuel,
- 25:34Speaker 4: and fun. And once that money is gone each and
- 25:37Speaker 4: every single week, it's gone.
- 25:38Speaker 2: Babe.
- 25:38Speaker 4: If you have spent that money and now you need
- 25:40Speaker 4: to go and eat two minute noodles for dinner, that's
- 25:43Speaker 4: on you. Because this system means that you're not compromising
- 25:46Speaker 4: your saving, investing or bigger.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Bills and goals.
- 25:49Speaker 4: Right, So then your weekly spending amount, because it's an average,
- 25:53Speaker 4: you're not going to spend each and every single week
- 25:56Speaker 4: that same amount. Some weeks, you might have a really
- 25:58Speaker 4: lean week and you might be like, oh my gosh,
- 26:00Speaker 4: I worked fifty million hours because Victoria is the devil boss,
- 26:04Speaker 4: and I didn't have any time to go to Sephora.
- 26:06Speaker 4: I couldn't buy anything for me. So I had two
- 26:09Speaker 4: hundred and eighty dollars in the account at the start
- 26:11Speaker 4: of the month. Now there's one hundred and ninety left.
- 26:14Speaker 4: That's a stretch that that's not how much is ever
- 26:16Speaker 4: left in mind, but you know it's a good example.
- 26:19Speaker 4: I'm then going to transfer that money on the same
- 26:23Speaker 4: day that my weekly spending amount is automatically direct debited
- 26:26Speaker 4: into that account. I'm going to transfer the surplus over
- 26:29Speaker 4: to my feels like an emergency, but it's not an
- 26:32Speaker 4: emergency account, which is another bank account. So for those
- 26:34Speaker 4: following along at home, we're now at three bank accounts.
- 26:37Speaker 4: That is your emergency fund for fun. It's not your
- 26:40Speaker 4: real emergency fund. It's the fund where you're like, hmm,
- 26:44Speaker 4: I blew all my money in my weekly spending account,
- 26:47Speaker 4: but the girls want to go out for drinks. Well,
- 26:49Speaker 4: I do have that one hundred and ninety sitting to
- 26:51Speaker 4: the side in my feels like an emergency, but it's
- 26:53Speaker 4: not a lergency account, and I can spend that because
- 26:56Speaker 4: it's actually left over from the last time I didn't
- 26:59Speaker 4: do it, and I've kind of like done it myself.
- 27:01Speaker 4: We're not actually compromising our saving or investing goals. We're
- 27:05Speaker 4: not compromising Red Joe just she knows that that money's
- 27:08Speaker 4: sitting there and she can spend it if she wants to.
- 27:11Speaker 4: I get a little protective of that money because that's
- 27:13Speaker 4: where my shoes come from. So like, I look at
- 27:15Speaker 4: it and go if I have money left over in
- 27:17Speaker 4: my weekly spending money, and I transfer it to my
- 27:19Speaker 4: not emergency account. I kind of see it and I'm like, oh,
- 27:21Speaker 4: if I get to X amount, I can buy shoes
- 27:23Speaker 4: or I can buy something that I want and it
- 27:25Speaker 4: doesn't impact any other goal.
- 27:27Speaker 2: It's kind of like a win.
- 27:28Speaker 4: Or it could be you going and getting your hair
- 27:30Speaker 4: done or doing something for you that you want to
- 27:33Speaker 4: spend money on without any level of guilt. So that
- 27:36Speaker 4: is how the base of the cash hub works. And
- 27:39Speaker 4: then you will have other accounts. Usually people will have
- 27:42Speaker 4: an additional three accounts, so that takes you to a
- 27:45Speaker 4: total of six accounts. They will have three savings accounts.
- 27:49Speaker 4: If you have an offset account and the ability to
- 27:52Speaker 4: have multiple offsets, most people doing this system will choose
- 27:56Speaker 4: to have as many accounts as they possibly can as
- 27:58Speaker 4: an offset because that money will always then offset the
- 28:01Speaker 4: interest that you're paying on your mortgage. But they will
- 28:04Speaker 4: have three additional accounts. One will be long term savings.
- 28:07Speaker 4: So for Jess, and she's a good example because we
- 28:09Speaker 4: know she's saving for a house, that could be a
- 28:11Speaker 4: house deposit, and each fortnite when she gets transferred that
- 28:15Speaker 4: amount of money, she might go, Okay, cool, I'm transferring
- 28:18Speaker 4: two hundred dollars to my house savings, it's automated. Then
- 28:22Speaker 4: there's medium term goals and that could be just as
- 28:25Speaker 4: saving for a new car or a holiday, or some
- 28:28Speaker 4: spending money for a holiday or something that she's working towards.
- 28:31Speaker 4: And then that sixth account is your emergency fund, and
- 28:34Speaker 4: that emergency fund sits there if it's in an offset
- 28:37Speaker 4: money in, it's offsetting the mortgage, it's offsetting the interest
- 28:40Speaker 4: that is payable on your mortgage. But that money's job
- 28:43Speaker 4: is actually just to sit there. It's not to be invested,
- 28:46Speaker 4: it's not to worry about. It's there as your safety net.
- 28:49Speaker 4: Most people have six accounts in the budget and cash
- 28:51Speaker 4: flow system and that works for them, but you can
- 28:53Speaker 4: obviously add your own. But that basic structure to answer
- 28:57Speaker 4: the question does work with an offset and actually puts
- 29:00Speaker 4: you in a turbocharged position because every single dollar that's
- 29:04Speaker 4: in any of your system is actually working towards the
- 29:07Speaker 4: mortgage money win. The floor is now open for questions.
- 29:10Speaker 3: And if you do want to learn more about that.
- 29:12Speaker 3: If you're struggling with your budget and cash flow VD,
- 29:14Speaker 3: you did cover off this obviously.
- 29:16Speaker 2: In the sheets of the money.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Book, but if you're the whole systems in the book
- 29:19Speaker 4: like it is in the book, but if you're really
- 29:20Speaker 4: struggling with your budget and cash flow, or if you're
- 29:23Speaker 4: someone who needs a little more help with their automation,
- 29:25Speaker 4: like I did, check out the Budget and cash Flow Masterclass.
- 29:28Speaker 4: It specifically and very thoroughly covers from beginning to end
- 29:33Speaker 4: of setting up your budget and cash flow system. It
- 29:35Speaker 4: includes the handy dandy budget template, best one I've ever seen, best.
- 29:39Speaker 3: One I've ever used. I mean your bias, but I am,
- 29:41Speaker 3: but I use it and it does all that for you.
- 29:43Speaker 3: So we're obviously saying, right now, put this in this
- 29:45Speaker 3: fund and this in that fund. The template does it automatically.
- 29:48Speaker 3: You plug all your information in it.
- 29:50Speaker 4: I can't tell you how long that took me, Jess,
- 29:52Speaker 4: I have cried so many times over that spreadsheet. But
- 29:55Speaker 4: essentially your job, if you're using that template is to
- 29:58Speaker 4: just plug all the numbers in me how much you earn,
- 30:01Speaker 4: tell me how much you spend it on what, and
- 30:02Speaker 4: the rest of it will tell you where to put it,
- 30:05Speaker 4: what account to put it in.
- 30:06Speaker 2: How it works, what it looks like.
- 30:08Speaker 4: You tell me what your savings goal is, and it
- 30:10Speaker 4: even breaks that down for you to tell you how
- 30:12Speaker 4: much you need to contribute per week to work it out.
- 30:14Speaker 5: That just makes it so easy for people who are
- 30:17Speaker 5: scared of budgets and the organization like me, babe.
- 30:19Speaker 2: All of it for you good.
- 30:21Speaker 4: I've literally created a tool that will do it for you.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Because it's Friday and I'm feeling generous. Is looking angry
- 30:27Speaker 3: at me?
- 30:29Speaker 2: Where are you getting this from?
- 30:30Speaker 3: If anyone wants to grab the budget and hashla mask class,
- 30:32Speaker 3: I'll put a little discount code on there for you guys.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Use the code pod fifty.
- 30:35Speaker 3: You'll get fifty bucks off and it can put that
- 30:38Speaker 3: in your feels like an emergency but not an emergency
- 30:40Speaker 3: account and get some drinks on.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Me galse I love it.
- 30:43Speaker 4: But yeah, anyway that feels like an emergency but not
- 30:45Speaker 4: an emergency account was the best thing I ever did
- 30:47Speaker 4: for myself because I feel like sometimes I'm being naughty,
- 30:49Speaker 4: but I know I'm not being.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Naughty, And it can actually work.
- 30:52Speaker 4: Really well for people that struggle with spending money on
- 30:55Speaker 4: themselves because it's literally to the side. It was kind
- 30:57Speaker 4: of like leftover money in a way that was alex
- 31:00Speaker 4: hated towards something that you know isn't going to impact
- 31:02Speaker 4: your bigger financial goals. That's all we have time for
- 31:05Speaker 4: today though, So missus Georgia King, could you please wrap
- 31:08Speaker 4: the boring but important stuff?
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