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- 0:00Speaker 1: She's on the Money.
- 0:02Speaker 2: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on
- 0:15Speaker 2: the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Tax time is almost upon us, friends, and if you're
- 0:22Speaker 2: anything like me, that means you have lots of questions
- 0:24Speaker 2: that you want answered. By the end of today's episode,
- 0:27Speaker 2: you'll know what you can and can't claim, what the
- 0:29Speaker 2: go is with tax on side, hustles, second jobs, and
- 0:32Speaker 2: your investments, plus plenty more. My name is Jessica Ricky,
- 0:36Speaker 2: and I'm so excited to be joined for today's episode
- 0:39Speaker 2: by financial advisor and all around queen Victoria Devine.
- 0:42Speaker 1: You are too kind.
- 0:43Speaker 3: I feel like it's not as She's on the Money
- 0:45Speaker 3: episode unless someone unnecessarily strokes my ego to begin it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Absolutely, I love to lay it on you, but they
- 0:51Speaker 2: let's rip into it. Tax time is just a couple
- 0:54Speaker 2: of weeks away now, So where on earth do we
- 0:57Speaker 2: start in terms of getting our finances sorted?
- 0:59Speaker 3: Where we even start? I think we need to start
- 1:01Speaker 3: by taking a massive deep breath, because for too many
- 1:05Speaker 3: of us, tax time is a stressful time and it
- 1:08Speaker 3: shouldn't be that way. I mean, it's June thirty, it
- 1:10Speaker 3: is the end of financial year, which is your birthday?
- 1:13Speaker 1: I was about to say, which is also my birthday?
- 1:15Speaker 3: And on the thirtieth I turn thirty, And I think
- 1:17Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. I don't know, I don't think anybody
- 1:20Speaker 3: else cares, but like thirty on the thirtieth.
- 1:22Speaker 2: It's like a magical alignment of numbers. It's called a
- 1:25Speaker 2: golden birthday. I'm pretty sure. Is that right? Yeah? I
- 1:27Speaker 2: believe it. So like your agent birth date? Aline?
- 1:30Speaker 1: Oh, is that what that means?
- 1:32Speaker 2: I think? So.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Tony's sitting in the room and she's not meant to
- 1:35Speaker 3: be in this podcast, but she just got really excited
- 1:38Speaker 3: because her birthday is on the twenty eighth of November,
- 1:41Speaker 3: and on that date, she turns twenty eighth, So like,
- 1:43Speaker 3: is that her golden birthday too?
- 1:45Speaker 2: Absolutely? Is? That's kind of fun?
- 1:47Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm so excited about that. Anyway, I'm very excited
- 1:50Speaker 3: about my birthday. I'm not one of those people that
- 1:53Speaker 3: do birthday months or anything like that. I'm just excited
- 1:55Speaker 3: because it's also tax time. So there's that For.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Those of us who aren't so tax minded, me, what
- 2:02Speaker 2: is really what should we be excited for? Why do
- 2:04Speaker 2: we love tax so much?
- 2:05Speaker 1: So?
- 2:06Speaker 3: Tax time actually means a few different things for a
- 2:08Speaker 3: few different people. So it's pretty exciting if you're a
- 2:11Speaker 3: casual worker because usually you expect a little bit of
- 2:14Speaker 3: a return in your bank account. But it can actually
- 2:16Speaker 3: be really stressful for people like me who are small
- 2:19Speaker 3: business owners who potentially have tax owing, and it's a
- 2:22Speaker 3: total drainer for freelancers who maybe haven't stayed on top
- 2:25Speaker 3: of their tax throughout the year. So it's different for everybody.
- 2:29Speaker 3: But I think that what we need to understand about
- 2:32Speaker 3: tax time is one what we can claim and what
- 2:34Speaker 3: we can't claim, and maybe what we need to do
- 2:36Speaker 3: in the lead up, because unfortunately, when it comes to tax,
- 2:41Speaker 3: once the thirtieth of June passes.
- 2:43Speaker 1: You can't actually do anything in arrears.
- 2:45Speaker 3: You can't actually go and be like, okay, cool, well
- 2:48Speaker 3: I actually did need a new laptop.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I'm going to buy it now.
- 2:51Speaker 3: The dates actually have to be before the end of
- 2:54Speaker 3: financial year for you to actually claim any benefit in
- 2:57Speaker 3: that financial year. Like, of course you can do it
- 2:59Speaker 3: the next year, but that's not what it's about. That's
- 3:01Speaker 3: not why you're buying it right You want to make
- 3:03Speaker 3: the most of right now and make hay while the
- 3:05Speaker 3: sun is shining, and the sun isn't shining twelve months
- 3:07Speaker 3: from now, because that's just too far away to even
- 3:09Speaker 3: think about, right.
- 3:11Speaker 2: So it sounds like staying organized is going to be
- 3:14Speaker 2: really beneficial to anyone in prepping for tax time, especially
- 3:17Speaker 2: those freelancers and small buzoners.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I am going to be biased and just say in general,
- 3:21Speaker 3: it's quite helpful to be organized, but I wouldn't know.
- 3:23Speaker 3: That's why I have a bookkeeper, Jess, And that's why
- 3:26Speaker 3: you often run the content on somebody because I genuinely
- 3:29Speaker 3: cannot be trusted, but essentially to make sure that we
- 3:32Speaker 3: are ready for when July one rolls around. You can
- 3:35Speaker 3: do a number of different things. So you can prepare
- 3:38Speaker 3: by making sure that you have all your receipts and
- 3:40Speaker 3: sorting them out and organizing them by category. So say
- 3:43Speaker 3: you have a whole heap of different receipts, put them
- 3:45Speaker 3: all together and make sure that you've got them in
- 3:47Speaker 3: different categories so that you can give them to your
- 3:49Speaker 3: accountant to claim properly. The second thing I'd say there
- 3:53Speaker 3: is I actually have a folder on my phone, and
- 3:56Speaker 3: I know that the ATO tax app actually allows you
- 3:59Speaker 3: to take photos and audidically upload it to save it
- 4:01Speaker 3: for later. I don't use that just because I like
- 4:03Speaker 3: having them on my phone so I can share them
- 4:06Speaker 3: personally with my bookkeeper or reference them, because I think
- 4:09Speaker 3: that I wouldn't be alone when I say that we've
- 4:12Speaker 3: all lost a receipt. So I think making a habit
- 4:15Speaker 3: of actually just snapping a quick pick of it and
- 4:17Speaker 3: putting it into a folder right then and there actually
- 4:19Speaker 3: really helps because you don't need the actual original, You
- 4:23Speaker 3: just need proof of the actual receipt And so for me,
- 4:27Speaker 3: making sure that you've got the receipts is really helpful.
- 4:29Speaker 3: But then also just having photos. I promise you that
- 4:32Speaker 3: by having photos instead of a shoe box full of
- 4:34Speaker 3: dirty receipts that have gum wrappers stuck to them, is
- 4:38Speaker 3: going to make your accountant much happier or you much
- 4:40Speaker 3: happier when it comes to doing your tax.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And it is worth noting just to throw in there
- 4:45Speaker 2: because I did not know this. You want to make
- 4:47Speaker 2: sure that you're keeping those receipts or your records of
- 4:50Speaker 2: their receipts for five years because minimum, yeah, at a minimum,
- 4:53Speaker 2: because you can be audited. And I feel like, as
- 4:57Speaker 2: you were saying, having that digital copy makes it really
- 4:59Speaker 2: easy for people to file them away on your computer,
- 5:01Speaker 2: and if for whatever reason, you have to come back
- 5:03Speaker 2: and reference those, it's all there and really simple for you.
- 5:06Speaker 3: I'm crazy when it comes to tax and making sure
- 5:09Speaker 3: I keep track of them. I actually upload them all
- 5:12Speaker 3: to drop box at the end of financial year when
- 5:14Speaker 3: I don't need them anymore, and just label it like
- 5:16Speaker 3: tax receipts for twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen or twenty
- 5:19Speaker 3: nineteen or whatever you're doing, and then I delete them
- 5:22Speaker 3: all from the album on my phone so that I
- 5:24Speaker 3: don't get confused the next year. So because I do
- 5:27Speaker 3: get confused. Yeah, Like, this hasn't come from me being smart.
- 5:30Speaker 3: It has come from me not understanding what the hell
- 5:33Speaker 3: I'm doing.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Tax is definitely like it can be so overwhelming, and
- 5:36Speaker 2: I think a lot of people want to know should
- 5:38Speaker 2: they do it themselves or should they be getting an
- 5:40Speaker 2: accountant to help out.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Well, that is a question that I legitimately cannot answer
- 5:44Speaker 3: for you, because you genuinely need to work that out yourself.
- 5:48Speaker 3: But if your tax is relatively straightforward and you just
- 5:51Speaker 3: are a single employee, you don't have any investments, no
- 5:54Speaker 3: side huzzles and you're feeling pretty confident, then yeah, absolutely,
- 5:57Speaker 3: it's something you could consider doing yourself. Saying that some
- 6:00Speaker 3: people just prefer to have less stress and prefer to
- 6:03Speaker 3: have the stress taken off them so that they can
- 6:06Speaker 3: go and get someone else do it, and that is
- 6:08Speaker 3: absolutely fine. The important thing here, though, is if you
- 6:12Speaker 3: have an accountant do your tax for you as much
- 6:15Speaker 3: as they will do it and lodge it, and you
- 6:18Speaker 3: know it's to the best of their ability. They aren't
- 6:20Speaker 3: taking responsibility for your tax. So if you then end
- 6:24Speaker 3: up being audited, that's on you.
- 6:26Speaker 1: That's not on the.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Accountant that you had, because they'll make you signed to
- 6:29Speaker 3: say no, I agree that everything is true and correct.
- 6:32Speaker 3: So if you went and said to your accountant, like,
- 6:35Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I spent three hundred dollars on you know,
- 6:38Speaker 3: suncream products, so I really want to claim those like,
- 6:41Speaker 3: they'll go, yeah, okay, no problems. If you're saying that
- 6:44Speaker 3: you can claim them as a part of your job.
- 6:46Speaker 3: More often than not, an account will absolutely believe you.
- 6:48Speaker 3: They'll have a conversation about whether it's relevant or not.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Like jes I'm pretty sure if you tried to claim
- 6:53Speaker 3: sun cream and you were like, oh, it has SBF.
- 6:55Speaker 1: They're gonna be like.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Don't you like working an office environment in a studio
- 6:59Speaker 3: that it really has no windows?
- 7:01Speaker 1: Like, probably not.
- 7:03Speaker 3: But sometimes they will let you claim it and then
- 7:06Speaker 3: the ATO come back and audit it and it's not
- 7:08Speaker 3: true and correct, and so many people will say like, oh,
- 7:11Speaker 3: but my accountant said it's fine, Like that's not going
- 7:13Speaker 3: to fly with the ATO.
- 7:14Speaker 1: It is up to you. It is your responsibility.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm so scary. It sounds like a good accountant,
- 7:19Speaker 2: if you do want to see one, is going to
- 7:22Speaker 2: be pretty helpful. How do we figure out or find
- 7:25Speaker 2: a good accountant? How do we find someone who's going
- 7:27Speaker 2: to be able to help us out?
- 7:28Speaker 3: So making sure that you do actually have a registered
- 7:31Speaker 3: tax accountant is very helpful if you're going to be
- 7:33Speaker 3: paying for them. And tax advice can sit from anywhere
- 7:37Speaker 3: between like one hundred dollars to get your tax return
- 7:39Speaker 3: all the way up to like thousands of dollars depending
- 7:41Speaker 3: on your structure. So I think it's important to just
- 7:43Speaker 3: find someone that.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Works for you.
- 7:45Speaker 3: I always say that the best way to find someone
- 7:48Speaker 3: is just by referral. So if you're looking for an
- 7:50Speaker 3: accountant and your mate has one, ask them do you
- 7:53Speaker 3: like that person? Because more often than not, they'll be
- 7:55Speaker 3: hopefully local to you and actually understand your area, or
- 7:58Speaker 3: maybe if your friend and you have similar jobs, they'll
- 8:01Speaker 3: understand your industry. But if you work in a more
- 8:04Speaker 3: complex industry, or you're looking for someone who's a little
- 8:07Speaker 3: bit more hands on, especially if you have a small
- 8:10Speaker 3: business or you've started investing and you really need help
- 8:13Speaker 3: above and beyond just the tax statements that your micro
- 8:15Speaker 3: investing platform gives you access to. I think it's important
- 8:19Speaker 3: to do a little bit of research and just ask them, like, hey, cool, Like,
- 8:22Speaker 3: for example, an Instagram influencer, right, like, they have to
- 8:25Speaker 3: do tax in a very different way to other people
- 8:28Speaker 3: because obviously they can claim things that your I just
- 8:30Speaker 3: couldn't claim hope, not yet.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Anyway, maybe one.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Day, one day they can claim different things. So sometimes
- 8:36Speaker 3: it's just really nice to have someone who has experience
- 8:39Speaker 3: with your type of work, and like that happens often
- 8:42Speaker 3: with sex workers as well, so they can claim different things,
- 8:46Speaker 3: and more often than not, it's just helpful to have
- 8:48Speaker 3: somebody who already understands that and gets you and gets
- 8:51Speaker 3: your work. So for me, finding a good accountant that
- 8:54Speaker 3: is actually aligned to your role is important. But yeah,
- 8:59Speaker 3: it's about referral, it's about understanding where it is. But
- 9:02Speaker 3: to be honest, all accountants, if they're registered, should be
- 9:05Speaker 3: able to do the job pretty.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Well amazing, And that kind of lead into my next question,
- 9:10Speaker 2: which is what can we actually claim? So generally you
- 9:14Speaker 2: can claim any work related expenses including working from home expenses,
- 9:19Speaker 2: and then any uniform cost, vehicle expenses, self education costs,
- 9:23Speaker 2: and then there are other deductions that you can make.
- 9:26Speaker 2: So say, if you made a donation during the year,
- 9:28Speaker 2: you could claim that your personal superanuation contributions, which I
- 9:32Speaker 2: think is important to talk about because if you're planning
- 9:35Speaker 2: on making a superanuation contribution prior to the end of
- 9:39Speaker 2: financial year this year, So like, let's just absolutely go
- 9:42Speaker 2: off in a tangent here right now. So you guys
- 9:45Speaker 2: would have heard of the first home super Savior scheme
- 9:47Speaker 2: if you're planning on making use of that in the
- 9:49Speaker 2: near future, but you haven't contributed to it already, you
- 9:53Speaker 2: can at this point, and I know legislation is about
- 9:56Speaker 2: to change. You can contribute fifteen thousand dollars in one
- 9:59Speaker 2: financi year and then another fifteen thousand dollars in the
- 10:02Speaker 2: next financial year. So hypothetically, you could drop in fifteen
- 10:07Speaker 2: grand today and have that claimed on thirty June tax
- 10:11Speaker 2: and then drop in the second fifteen grand on like
- 10:13Speaker 2: the second of July or something, and then you've got
- 10:15Speaker 2: your thirty grand in there ready to purchase by the
- 10:18Speaker 2: end of the year.
- 10:19Speaker 1: If that is your plan, I.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Think it's then important to understand why you might want
- 10:23Speaker 3: to do that, because if you have been thinking about
- 10:26Speaker 3: the first home super Savor scheme and then you're like, yeah,
- 10:28Speaker 3: but i'll buy by the end of the year, I'll
- 10:29Speaker 3: make a decision, Well, you'll only be able to put
- 10:31Speaker 3: in fifteen thousand dollars because you'd have to wait until
- 10:34Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one financial year is over for you
- 10:37Speaker 3: to put the second fifteen thousand dollars in. So that's
- 10:40Speaker 3: why I'm bringing stuff like that up, because you know,
- 10:43Speaker 3: with superannuation, obviously you've got your caps as well, so
- 10:46Speaker 3: if you're wanting to make an additional contribution, it's kind
- 10:50Speaker 3: of like a user or lose it kind of situation.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to have to wait a significant period
- 10:55Speaker 3: of time before you.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Can use it again.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and in regards to SUPA, you have done a
- 10:59Speaker 2: whole making additional contributions to Super. It's available on YouTube
- 11:03Speaker 2: and we always suggest. We know it can be a
- 11:05Speaker 2: little bit confusing, So if you want some help and
- 11:08Speaker 2: an't sure how it works, give you Super a call.
- 11:10Speaker 2: They're super helpful. They should have a dedicated in house
- 11:13Speaker 2: team who can give you a hand and answer anytase
- 11:15Speaker 2: if you might have.
- 11:16Speaker 3: They absolutely will make use of their call centers. Call
- 11:19Speaker 3: them up and say how much can I contribute? You know,
- 11:21Speaker 3: how might this impact my tax? They can talk you
- 11:24Speaker 3: through all of that. Like, use those people because they
- 11:27Speaker 3: can be really helpful. The one thing they can't do free.
- 11:31Speaker 1: They're free.
- 11:31Speaker 3: But one thing they can't do is give you personal advice.
- 11:35Speaker 3: But if you've got a whole heap of questions, they'll
- 11:37Speaker 3: be able to answer those for you and your specific circumstance.
- 11:41Speaker 3: So Jess, hypothetically, if you called them and said, hey,
- 11:44Speaker 3: I've paid X amount of Super this year, how much
- 11:46Speaker 3: more can I contribute without having, you know, any ramifications,
- 11:50Speaker 3: they'll be able to tell you. And you know, I
- 11:52Speaker 3: earn X and I want to contribute, why will that
- 11:55Speaker 3: reduce my personal tax rates, they'll be able to answer
- 11:59Speaker 3: that it's not advice. So I think that it's actually
- 12:01Speaker 3: really underrated. Like call your super fun to have a chat,
- 12:04Speaker 3: because I guarantee the people on the phone love talking
- 12:06Speaker 3: about it because that's their jobs, that's what they've chosen
- 12:09Speaker 3: to do.
- 12:09Speaker 2: There you go, and you're paying fees on your super.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Chances are anyway, so you might as well get the
- 12:13Speaker 2: extra mileage.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Make the most of it.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Absolutely so. And there are, as you said, a whole
- 12:18Speaker 2: range of things that you can claim. And the Atier
- 12:20Speaker 2: has a really extensive guide which we're going to get
- 12:23Speaker 2: Tony to pop in the show notes because it varies
- 12:25Speaker 2: industry to industry and person to person, and if you
- 12:28Speaker 2: don't speak to an accountant, that guide is a really
- 12:30Speaker 2: great way to get an overview of what you may
- 12:32Speaker 2: and may not be able to claim. It's really good.
- 12:34Speaker 2: That's what I use every years. I get on the
- 12:36Speaker 2: AHO website, I go, okay, cool, like, what can my
- 12:38Speaker 2: current job category claim? Really, how does that work? I
- 12:41Speaker 2: don't think I've seen it so on the ATO, Like
- 12:43Speaker 2: when you go to what can I claim? You can
- 12:45Speaker 2: google like and buy industry. More often than not it'll
- 12:48Speaker 2: it won't list everything, but generally they'll have an overview
- 12:51Speaker 2: of like you can claim X, Y and z, you
- 12:53Speaker 2: can't claim X, y and z. And it just for
- 12:55Speaker 2: me because I've never had my tax done, I've always
- 12:57Speaker 2: done it myself. It makes it really easy to kind
- 12:59Speaker 2: of go, Okay, well, I have this many things that
- 13:03Speaker 2: fit into that category that I am.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Going to claim and cool, so you can kind of
- 13:06Speaker 3: just do a bit more research. We'll drop that link
- 13:09Speaker 3: in the show notes because I think that'll actually be
- 13:11Speaker 3: really helpful. Yeah. I think it's also worth touching on
- 13:14Speaker 3: the fact that so many of us in this financial
- 13:17Speaker 3: year worked from home, and when you work from home,
- 13:20Speaker 3: you actually are able to claim your work from home.
- 13:23Speaker 3: So I've done some of the maths and essentially they
- 13:27Speaker 3: have two different methods, right. They've got the eighty cent method,
- 13:30Speaker 3: which would essentially, you know, if you work it out
- 13:32Speaker 3: and you work forty eight work weeks a year by
- 13:35Speaker 3: forty hours a week, you could get a fifteen hundred
- 13:38Speaker 3: dollars deduction, which is I think a pretty good money win.
- 13:41Speaker 3: And if you're not claiming that and you did work
- 13:43Speaker 3: from home, genuinely we need to talk about it. But
- 13:46Speaker 3: they have the fixed rate method or the eighty cent methods.
- 13:49Speaker 3: So just explain the eighty cent one. But if you
- 13:51Speaker 3: use the fixed rate method and you're in like middle
- 13:54Speaker 3: tax brackets, you'd end up getting fifty two cents per
- 13:57Speaker 3: hour to cover running costs, which could potentially be like
- 14:01Speaker 3: one thousand dollars. And then you might also be able
- 14:05Speaker 3: to claim a percentage of your phone bill and your internet,
- 14:07Speaker 3: which could be up to another seven hundred dollars, and
- 14:10Speaker 3: in that case, the fixed rate might work better for
- 14:13Speaker 3: you than the eighty cent rule. So I think my
- 14:15Speaker 3: hot tip there is to just do the numbers and
- 14:18Speaker 3: work out what works for you best, because you might
- 14:21Speaker 3: see that you know the fixed rate method is like
- 14:23Speaker 3: fifty two cents on the dollar, whereas the other rate,
- 14:27Speaker 3: which is the eighty cent method, where you can't claim
- 14:29Speaker 3: anything more. You might go, oh, well that's more, I
- 14:31Speaker 3: want that, but you can't claim things like your internet
- 14:33Speaker 3: you see, or your phone bill that you used in relation.
- 14:36Speaker 3: So definitely do a little comparison and work out what
- 14:39Speaker 3: actually works out better for you personally, rather than just going, oh,
- 14:43Speaker 3: eighty cents is more than fifty two cents, like that
- 14:45Speaker 3: makes sense.
- 14:46Speaker 2: And don't just plug in random numbers, because if you
- 14:48Speaker 2: do get audited, the atier will ask you to justify
- 14:51Speaker 2: your numbers, so they'll expect you to be able to
- 14:53Speaker 2: present them with a calculation of how you came up
- 14:55Speaker 2: with that amount. So exactly, don't just pull it out
- 14:57Speaker 2: of the air, but like make sure you're doing the
- 14:59Speaker 2: right thing, because they are cracking down. We've heard on
- 15:01Speaker 2: auditing and we don't want that to happen.
- 15:03Speaker 3: That you absolutely are, and we're not meaning to scare you, guys.
- 15:05Speaker 3: I think it's just important to only claim the things
- 15:08Speaker 3: that you genuinely can claim, because one we're trying not
- 15:11Speaker 3: to do the wrong thing, but two, it will come
- 15:13Speaker 3: back to bite you because not only will the ATO
- 15:16Speaker 3: then ask for the money back, but they'll also ask
- 15:18Speaker 3: for interest on that money, which is essentially a fine.
- 15:21Speaker 3: I mean, they don't call it a fine, but they
- 15:23Speaker 3: will ask you for interest on that money and you'll
- 15:26Speaker 3: end up paying oh oh he more back and it
- 15:28Speaker 3: won't be worth it. I promise you.
- 15:29Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Addendem. I got ordered last.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Year, Oh did you actually?
- 15:33Speaker 2: I did? Because I claimed because I worked multiple jobs
- 15:36Speaker 2: and my claim was like higher than like the average
- 15:38Speaker 2: person in my role, and obviously it was fine, like
- 15:41Speaker 2: I did all the right thing like I had. Of
- 15:43Speaker 2: course you did.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Jessica Ricci would have been like, hey, well here are
- 15:46Speaker 3: my receipts.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Well it's a filed folder. I think I was missing
- 15:49Speaker 2: like three receipts. It was like one hundred dollars or something,
- 15:51Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, pay it back. And thankfully the
- 15:53Speaker 2: guy was really nice because he was like, normally we
- 15:55Speaker 2: would find you, but like, I can see that you've
- 15:57Speaker 2: done all the right thing, it's just you the error.
- 16:00Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, like normal, we will usually hit
- 16:02Speaker 2: people with fine and I was like, oh, well that's scarcary.
- 16:05Speaker 1: So it's scary.
- 16:06Speaker 3: But in saying that, they're just trying to do the
- 16:08Speaker 3: right thing and make sure people aren't abusing the system. Absolutely,
- 16:11Speaker 3: you kind of go, yeah, all right, I can understand
- 16:13Speaker 3: why you might do that.
- 16:14Speaker 2: And that's why I'm saying to be really good about it.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Because it happened to me, it can happen to you.
- 16:18Speaker 2: They just make sure don't do the wrong thing, keep
- 16:21Speaker 2: your receipts, keep your sums and everything. So if you
- 16:23Speaker 2: are audited, it's really easy for you to be like no,
- 16:26Speaker 2: like actually that's just what I'm able to claim.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that's important as well, because
- 16:30Speaker 3: auditing is happening more often now. Everything is so much
- 16:33Speaker 3: more automated for the AT They can automatically just flag
- 16:37Speaker 3: people and go, yep, great, we'll audit all of these people,
- 16:40Speaker 3: and more often than not it'll be automatic, so you
- 16:43Speaker 3: will then resubmit and then they'll re analyze it or
- 16:46Speaker 3: whatever and check it out. So more often than not,
- 16:49Speaker 3: people are being audited because it's less manual for them nowadays.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool. So we've kind of covered off on what
- 16:54Speaker 2: you may be able to claim what can't we claim.
- 16:58Speaker 3: I mean, you can't claim things like you gin remember
- 17:00Speaker 3: year POL, like sup all, like self maintenance even though
- 17:03Speaker 3: I was doing face masks during work hours during COVID,
- 17:07Speaker 3: but it's not the point. You also can't claim your membership.
- 17:10Speaker 3: But like fancy golf clubs, even if you're networking and
- 17:13Speaker 3: doing quote business there, these aren't tax deductible. And while
- 17:17Speaker 3: none of those are relatable, what you can't claim is
- 17:20Speaker 3: actually petrol or public transport expenses getting to and from work.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Of course, if your job actually involves a whole heap
- 17:26Speaker 3: of driving during business hours. Once you arrive at work,
- 17:29Speaker 3: you can claim that, Like if you're a trades person
- 17:32Speaker 3: or a real estate agent, then you'd potentially be able
- 17:35Speaker 3: to claim that. But it's more around I think I've
- 17:38Speaker 3: had this conversation before in our DMS. So people are like,
- 17:40Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I drive to and from work and
- 17:42Speaker 3: I've been keeping a log book. I'm like, okay, but
- 17:44Speaker 3: you can't claim that because that was your choice. That's
- 17:47Speaker 3: actually not to generate profit. But if from work, you
- 17:50Speaker 3: drive to see a client and back, you can potentially
- 17:53Speaker 3: claim that. So I think it's just important to understand
- 17:57Speaker 3: the differences between what we can and can't claim. And
- 18:00Speaker 3: that's where I sometimes see an accountant as a really
- 18:03Speaker 3: helpful tool to go, hey, can I claim that? And
- 18:05Speaker 3: they'll say yes or no, and sometimes they'll highlight things
- 18:08Speaker 3: that you didn't even know you could claim. But Jess,
- 18:10Speaker 3: it sounds like that ATIO website that you were talking
- 18:12Speaker 3: about could and so all those questions for you anyway,
- 18:15Speaker 3: super helpful. Definitely check it out. Like we said, we'll
- 18:17Speaker 3: be in the show notes. The ATO does everything they
- 18:19Speaker 3: can to make it really easy for people to get
- 18:21Speaker 3: the information they need. Their website super clean cut, it's
- 18:24Speaker 3: really searchable. I've been doing my own tax for the
- 18:26Speaker 3: last decade. I cannot recommend it enough.
- 18:28Speaker 1: How much of the OTO paying you to say that?
- 18:30Speaker 2: Oh? I wish ato please sponsor me. I know you
- 18:32Speaker 2: have a lot of money because I am paying it
- 18:34Speaker 2: to you every year. On the other side of this,
- 18:36Speaker 2: we'll be back to chat tax brackets, what tax means
- 18:39Speaker 2: for all of our slide hustlers, and how we can
- 18:41Speaker 2: sort ourselves out for the next financial year if we're
- 18:44Speaker 2: maybe realizing now that we aren't as organized as we
- 18:47Speaker 2: could have been for this one. Don't go anywhere, all right?
- 18:58Speaker 2: So tax brackets? What are they?
- 19:00Speaker 1: Super sexy?
- 19:02Speaker 2: We love it?
- 19:03Speaker 1: Oh you want more? I love avation.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so sorry. Do you want me to actually
- 19:07Speaker 3: explain what each bracket is and then we can test?
- 19:10Speaker 1: I was hoping you would say, no, don't worry.
- 19:11Speaker 3: We'll put a blogger up or something or so if
- 19:14Speaker 3: you earn under eighteen thousand, two hundred dollars, you don't
- 19:17Speaker 3: pay any tax money.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Win. We should note before we get into this, this
- 19:22Speaker 2: is for the twenty twenty to twenty one financial we
- 19:24Speaker 2: are It is subject to change. If you're listening to
- 19:25Speaker 2: us in the future again, you can check the tax
- 19:28Speaker 2: brackets on the eightieer website.
- 19:29Speaker 3: I think Jess will also chuck up a little text
- 19:31Speaker 3: post of what the tax brackets are and what they
- 19:34Speaker 3: actually mean on Instagram, just because I've already got that
- 19:38Speaker 3: text post ready to go, because I'm a genius, amazing. Yeah,
- 19:41Speaker 3: you're welcome anyway. Then, if you earn between eighteen thousand,
- 19:44Speaker 3: two hundred and one dollars and forty five thousand dollars,
- 19:47Speaker 3: you will incur a tax rate of nineteen cents for
- 19:50Speaker 3: every one dollar that you earn above and beyond that
- 19:53Speaker 3: eighteen thousand, two hundred dollars. So, Jess, you know, when
- 19:56Speaker 3: you start a new job and they get you to
- 19:58Speaker 3: fill in that form that says claim the tax free threshold,
- 20:02Speaker 3: and you have to remember that if you have a
- 20:04Speaker 3: second job, not to tick that because obviously the first
- 20:06Speaker 3: eighteen thousand, two hundred dollars that you earn is not
- 20:09Speaker 3: tax that is where that comes from. So if you
- 20:12Speaker 3: then accidentally tick the box that says yeah, I do
- 20:15Speaker 3: want to claim the tax free threshold for this job,
- 20:17Speaker 3: you end up claiming the eighteen thousand, two hundred dollars
- 20:20Speaker 3: of tax free money, twice, and then at tax time
- 20:24Speaker 3: that's when you get bitten in the bottom because you
- 20:26Speaker 3: have to pay tax back on all the money you
- 20:28Speaker 3: earn above and beyond that, so that's important to note there. Then,
- 20:32Speaker 3: if you earn between forty five thousand and one dollar
- 20:35Speaker 3: and one hundred and twenty thousand dollars, you'll pay five
- 20:38Speaker 3: thousand and ninety two dollars plus thirty two cents in
- 20:42Speaker 3: the dollar for every one dollar over forty five thousand dollars. Then,
- 20:47Speaker 3: if you're lucky enough to earn between one hundred and
- 20:49Speaker 3: twenty thousand and one dollars and one hundred and eighty
- 20:52Speaker 3: thousand dollars, which would be wild, you would pay twenty
- 20:55Speaker 3: nine thousand, four hundred and sixty seven dollars in tax.
- 20:59Speaker 3: And then in a addition, you'd also pay thirty seven
- 21:02Speaker 3: cents for every one dollar that you earn over one
- 21:05Speaker 3: hundred and twenty thousand dollars. And then if you're in
- 21:09Speaker 3: the bucket where you earn more than one hundred and
- 21:11Speaker 3: eighty thousand and one dollars, I'm caealous. Imagine if you
- 21:14Speaker 3: earned that much and then you're worried about that additional
- 21:17Speaker 3: one dollar. I mean you probably would be because it
- 21:18Speaker 3: changes your tax bracket. It does, But before I explain
- 21:23Speaker 3: what this means, that's what we mean when we talk
- 21:25Speaker 3: about additional super contributions to drop you a tax bracket down.
- 21:29Speaker 3: So say you were earning one hundred and eighty thousand
- 21:31Speaker 3: and one dollar and you had to pay fifty one thousand,
- 21:35Speaker 3: six hundred and sixty seven dollars plus forty five cents
- 21:39Speaker 3: for every one dollar over one hundred and eighty thousand
- 21:42Speaker 3: dollars that you earn.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Hypothetically, if you.
- 21:45Speaker 3: Went and made an additional super contribution from your post
- 21:49Speaker 3: tax income and then you were able to claim it,
- 21:52Speaker 3: it could potentially put you back into the other tax bracket,
- 21:56Speaker 3: which means that you're paying thirty seven cents to every
- 21:58Speaker 3: dollar over one hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars instead
- 22:01Speaker 3: of jumping up to that forty five cent bracket.
- 22:03Speaker 2: And a few cents doesn't sound like a lot, but
- 22:04Speaker 2: when you're paying on every dollar that adds up super quickly.
- 22:08Speaker 1: It really really adds up.
- 22:09Speaker 3: And that's why so many people who are in those
- 22:11Speaker 3: higher tax brackets often really prioritize making sure that they're
- 22:16Speaker 3: making additional superannuation contributions because it could potentially change their
- 22:20Speaker 3: tax bracket if they're sitting on the cusps. So obviously,
- 22:23Speaker 3: if they're earning like three hundred thousand dollars a year,
- 22:25Speaker 3: like a super contribution is not going to change which
- 22:27Speaker 3: tax bracket they get. But when you're like on the
- 22:29Speaker 3: cusp of something, sometimes it's really helpful to actually look
- 22:33Speaker 3: at it and be like, oh, my gosh, if I
- 22:34Speaker 3: just made an additional super contribution, I could potentially drop
- 22:37Speaker 3: my tax bracket, and therefore it would be really equitable
- 22:40Speaker 3: and you might end up with more in super while
- 22:42Speaker 3: still not significantly impacting your take home pay, which is
- 22:45Speaker 3: something that I always recommend you talk to your accountant
- 22:48Speaker 3: about because they can actually be really crafty with it
- 22:51Speaker 3: and you know, actually give you the numbers and give
- 22:53Speaker 3: you the example instead of me saying, oh, it's a
- 22:55Speaker 3: potential when we talk about it. So that's why we
- 22:58Speaker 3: make sure that we talk to our account before June
- 23:01Speaker 3: thirty about things like this and actually do a little
- 23:03Speaker 3: bit of what we call tax planning, because if you go,
- 23:06Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it's the third of July, I should
- 23:09Speaker 3: really dump some more cash into my super to bring
- 23:12Speaker 3: down my taxbile income. You can't do it. It has
- 23:14Speaker 3: to be done. It's too late, my friend. So that's
- 23:16Speaker 3: why we want to do a little bit of tax planning,
- 23:18Speaker 3: and that's why we're dropping the episode now. So if
- 23:20Speaker 3: you want to think about it, now's the time, my friends.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Amazing, and we want to remind you. We know that
- 23:25Speaker 2: tax kind of has a bit of a bad reputation
- 23:27Speaker 2: because no one likes to feel like they're giving their
- 23:30Speaker 2: hard earned dollars away. But it's part of being in
- 23:33Speaker 2: a community and you need to remember that you're paying
- 23:35Speaker 2: tax because you're earning money, and that is a great thing.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Genuinely, the more tax that you can pay, the more
- 23:41Speaker 3: money you are taking home, and it is always a
- 23:44Speaker 3: good thing. And you know, I've said this on the
- 23:46Speaker 3: podcast probably a million times now, probably a million times
- 23:50Speaker 3: too many, But I'm a genuine believer of changing our
- 23:53Speaker 3: mindset around quote have to pay tax to we get
- 23:57Speaker 3: to pay tax. We get to live in this country
- 23:59Speaker 3: that provides us with all of these really great infrastructure options,
- 24:03Speaker 3: a really great healthcare system, really great roads that we
- 24:06Speaker 3: can drive on, and you know, a police force that
- 24:08Speaker 3: look after us. And you know, it's one of those
- 24:11Speaker 3: things that I genuinely want our community to just be
- 24:14Speaker 3: more grateful for, because too often I see people complaining
- 24:17Speaker 3: about how much tax they have to pay, and I'm like, wow,
- 24:20Speaker 3: like that's of such benefit to you and I that
- 24:23Speaker 3: you are paying tax, and we should just be more
- 24:25Speaker 3: grateful for these things, because as much as you know,
- 24:28Speaker 3: sometimes people go, yeah, but it sucks it's my money,
- 24:31Speaker 3: Like it's not a surprise, Like tax was never a
- 24:33Speaker 3: surprise when you got your first job. Tax rates existed. Yeah,
- 24:36Speaker 3: they change and shift every single year, but it was
- 24:39Speaker 3: actually never your money to begin with. It was always
- 24:41Speaker 3: the plan that you would pay tax. It's not actually
- 24:44Speaker 3: some surprise where now people are like, oh, Jess, by
- 24:46Speaker 3: the way, you know how you've got that great job,
- 24:48Speaker 3: I now want to take thirty seven cents from every
- 24:50Speaker 3: dollar that you earn. Like that wasn't a surprise. We
- 24:52Speaker 3: should have always been planning for that. And that's why
- 24:54Speaker 3: often I just want people when we're talking about budget
- 24:57Speaker 3: and cash flow, like, let's not talk about tax. Let's
- 25:00Speaker 3: just talk about your post tax income and what actually
- 25:02Speaker 3: comes into your bank account and what we can actually
- 25:04Speaker 3: have a tangible impact on because sometimes we see our
- 25:07Speaker 3: you know, total remuneration package from a business and you're like, whoa,
- 25:11Speaker 3: Like it's seventy thousand dollars. That's so much money, and
- 25:14Speaker 3: then you are really upset with what you actually end
- 25:16Speaker 3: up taking home. It's like, no, like, let's actually just
- 25:18Speaker 3: look at take home. How much are you actually taking home?
- 25:21Speaker 3: And what can we do to increase that or you know,
- 25:23Speaker 3: benefit that. And then that's where tax planning comes into it.
- 25:26Speaker 3: So I don't mean to be negative, and I know
- 25:28Speaker 3: that as you were saying, tax can have a bad reputation,
- 25:31Speaker 3: but I just genuinely believe it shouldn't.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Very interesting through the thought. Now, we have a really
- 25:37Speaker 2: good amount of people in our community who love a
- 25:39Speaker 2: side hustle and we love to see it, But how
- 25:41Speaker 2: do tax work for those people?
- 25:43Speaker 3: So wouldn't it be so nice if we didn't have
- 25:45Speaker 3: to tax side hustlers, Like they could just like make
- 25:48Speaker 3: a whole heap of extra bank on the side and
- 25:50Speaker 3: then just go on good holidays and not have to
- 25:52Speaker 3: pay additional tax.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Everyone would have side hustle.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Unfortunately, when you have a side hustle, you do have
- 25:57Speaker 3: to declare any income that you've made from that side hustle.
- 26:00Speaker 3: No matter if it is like one hundred thousand dollars
- 26:02Speaker 3: or one thousand dollars, you're still going to have to
- 26:04Speaker 3: declare it. So if you're a sole trader with an ABN,
- 26:07Speaker 3: as most side hustlers actually tend to be, all you
- 26:10Speaker 3: need to do is declare your income at tax time
- 26:12Speaker 3: along with your individual tax return. If it's a little
- 26:14Speaker 3: more than a side hustle and you're running a business,
- 26:17Speaker 3: or you have your business set up as a partnership
- 26:19Speaker 3: or a company or a trust, then you will have
- 26:20Speaker 3: to do an additional tax return. So any money that
- 26:24Speaker 3: you earn when you're a sole trader will just be
- 26:26Speaker 3: added to your marginal tax income. So it's worth talking
- 26:29Speaker 3: about this in a little bit more depth.
- 26:31Speaker 1: So say you.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Earn right now one hundred thousand dollars from your main
- 26:34Speaker 3: source of income because you're a full time employee, but
- 26:37Speaker 3: you do some kind of side hustle on the side,
- 26:39Speaker 3: and you actually earn thirty thousand dollars a year from that,
- 26:41Speaker 3: wouldn't that be great? Like money win. The important thing
- 26:44Speaker 3: you need to remember there is it will actually increase
- 26:47Speaker 3: your taxable income and take you up another tax bracket,
- 26:51Speaker 3: so you'll go from paying thirty two cents for every
- 26:53Speaker 3: dollar over forty five thousand dollars to paying thirty seven
- 26:56Speaker 3: cents for every dollar over one twenty. So it's not
- 27:00Speaker 3: change it massively. And I think that this is such
- 27:02Speaker 3: a misconception because whether you're a side hustler or you've
- 27:05Speaker 3: just got you know, two casual jobs, so many people
- 27:08Speaker 3: say things like, oh my gosh, like, is it even
- 27:10Speaker 3: worth having another job if you're ending up paying more
- 27:13Speaker 3: tax more often than not, yes, absolutely, Like there's no
- 27:16Speaker 3: situation where you're going to end up paying a whole
- 27:19Speaker 3: heap more for something just because you have another job. Yes,
- 27:23Speaker 3: you are increasing your taxable income, and yes you might
- 27:26Speaker 3: jump up another tax bracket, but that's where we just
- 27:29Speaker 3: need to be smart about. Okay, is that going to change?
- 27:32Speaker 3: What tax planning can I do to make sure that
- 27:34Speaker 3: I may be stay in that old tax bracket if
- 27:37Speaker 3: I can and actually make some plans around that, as
- 27:40Speaker 3: opposed to going, oh my gosh, like I'm never going
- 27:42Speaker 3: to get a second job or do something else because
- 27:44Speaker 3: like they'll just tax me through the nose.
- 27:46Speaker 2: There's a really big misconception I've seen a lot and
- 27:49Speaker 2: heard even just from friends, where people say, oh, like,
- 27:51Speaker 2: I don't want to have a second job because my
- 27:54Speaker 2: tax will be doubled as though you go from paying
- 27:57Speaker 2: let's say thirty percent to sixty percent. Yeah, which is
- 28:00Speaker 2: a case. It just gets, as you said, added on to.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Your current taxable income. And I think it's yeah, people
- 28:06Speaker 3: aren't going to charge you double tax. And often if
- 28:08Speaker 3: you're feeling like that is the case, have a chat
- 28:11Speaker 3: with an account and actually understand the semantics of it,
- 28:13Speaker 3: because sometimes if you do have a second income, you
- 28:17Speaker 3: are taxed at a higher rate because they're just trying
- 28:19Speaker 3: to make sure they're taking enough tax so that you
- 28:22Speaker 3: don't end up with a massive tax bill come June thirty.
- 28:25Speaker 3: So have a chat about how you can manage that.
- 28:27Speaker 3: And more often than not, when I see clients who
- 28:30Speaker 3: do have a number of side hustles and have been
- 28:32Speaker 3: quote overpaying tax, they end up with a really nice refund,
- 28:36Speaker 3: which sometimes we really luck absolutely so.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Jackie from our community was asking, if you have to
- 28:42Speaker 2: pay tax on your investments, how does that work?
- 28:45Speaker 3: Yes, you do because your investments are hopefully increasing your income, right, Yes,
- 28:50Speaker 3: so you definitely have to pay tax on any income
- 28:53Speaker 3: that you make from your investments, and that includes the
- 28:55Speaker 3: interest that is paid, the dividends, any rent, if it's
- 28:58Speaker 3: an investment property, any capital gains. So in terms of
- 29:02Speaker 3: how much you need to pay, it's just going to
- 29:03Speaker 3: be taxed in accordance with your marginal tax right, And
- 29:07Speaker 3: it's one of those things where it is but it isn't.
- 29:10Speaker 3: So if you've incurred that income, then great, you will
- 29:13Speaker 3: be taxed on it. But hypothetically, if you owned a
- 29:15Speaker 3: property and increased massively in value, you're not going to
- 29:19Speaker 3: be taxed on that because you haven't actually realized that increase.
- 29:24Speaker 3: So when I say realized or I say I think,
- 29:27Speaker 3: I say this a lot on the podcast, I'll say, like,
- 29:29Speaker 3: you haven't realized that gain, or you haven't crystallized that gain.
- 29:33Speaker 3: What I'm talking about is actually that money is not
- 29:35Speaker 3: in your bank account. You didn't actually receive that. That's
- 29:38Speaker 3: just a hypothetical. If you sold that asset, it would
- 29:41Speaker 3: be worth more money. So you're not paying tax on
- 29:43Speaker 3: it now, but you will pay tax on it if.
- 29:46Speaker 1: You sell it.
- 29:46Speaker 3: And if you sell any of your assets within a
- 29:49Speaker 3: financial year, you will have to make sure that there
- 29:52Speaker 3: isn't any capital gains tax to pay on that, and
- 29:54Speaker 3: you'll have to declare it. And my friends who have
- 29:57Speaker 3: been investing in cryptocurrenceries, you absolutely have to pay tax.
- 30:02Speaker 1: On that as well.
- 30:03Speaker 2: So what about dividends.
- 30:05Speaker 3: So dividends are going to be a part of your income,
- 30:08Speaker 3: So your income is going to be taxed in line
- 30:10Speaker 3: with your marginal tax rate.
- 30:12Speaker 2: And when we say it marginal tax rate, just to clarify,
- 30:15Speaker 2: is that coming back to the tax brackets that we were.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Talking So your marginal tax rate is that graph that
- 30:19Speaker 3: essentially says, hey, if you earn between X and y,
- 30:23Speaker 3: you have to pay x on tax. I think we
- 30:25Speaker 3: say this a lot, but.
- 30:26Speaker 1: People always like, well, what's my marginal tax rate?
- 30:28Speaker 3: Like, that's what bucket you fall into for how much
- 30:31Speaker 3: tax you have to pay. And if you end up
- 30:32Speaker 3: with this massive epic investment portfolio, which we obviously all
- 30:36Speaker 3: dream of, and you're making one hundred grand a year
- 30:38Speaker 3: in dividends, then that is going to become part of
- 30:41Speaker 3: your marginal tax bracket unless you have it in a trust.
- 30:44Speaker 3: All there's a completely separate structure at play there. So
- 30:48Speaker 3: I just want to say that. But if you own
- 30:50Speaker 3: them in your own name, then yes, it will become
- 30:54Speaker 3: part of your own income, because you've essentially purchased an
- 30:57Speaker 3: income for yourself and you have to pay tax on that. Obviously,
- 31:00Speaker 3: this is going to be really dependent on your age
- 31:02Speaker 3: and what stage of life you're at and how all
- 31:04Speaker 3: of that works as well, but for ninety nine point
- 31:07Speaker 3: ninety five percent of our listeners, it is going to
- 31:09Speaker 3: mean that you will pay tax on it. So also,
- 31:12Speaker 3: while we're talking about marginal tax brackets, and I mentioned CGT,
- 31:16Speaker 3: so CGT is capital gains tax, and that's essentially a
- 31:19Speaker 3: tax that you need to pay when the asset that
- 31:22Speaker 3: you have just sold increased significantly in price. So say
- 31:25Speaker 3: you bought a cryptocurrency asset for like five dollars and
- 31:29Speaker 3: then it's worth five million, you're going to have to
- 31:31Speaker 3: pay tax on the amount that is increased by You
- 31:34Speaker 3: don't just get to take the profit and run away.
- 31:36Speaker 1: But something that people.
- 31:38Speaker 3: Don't seem to have comprehended, because I feel like this
- 31:41Speaker 3: whole cryptocurrency investor world is very online at the moment
- 31:45Speaker 3: and very topical to talk about. And whilst I think
- 31:47Speaker 3: I need to be incredibly clear about the fact that
- 31:50Speaker 3: I don't support our community purchasing crypto.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Like you do.
- 31:53Speaker 3: You boo boo, like, go and buy it if that
- 31:55Speaker 3: aligns to your values. I just want to be really
- 31:58Speaker 3: clear that I don't think it is this safe as
- 32:00Speaker 3: asset to be purchasing, especially as a first asset. But
- 32:04Speaker 3: if you're classed as a crypto investor, I feel like
- 32:07Speaker 3: so many of us have forgotten to take tax into consideration.
- 32:10Speaker 3: But you will be taxed on any capital gains that
- 32:13Speaker 3: are a result of your crypto investing, And if you
- 32:16Speaker 3: hold any asset for more than twelve months, you could
- 32:19Speaker 3: be eligible for a fifty percent CGT discount. And that
- 32:22Speaker 3: is something that people are forgetting at the moment they're,
- 32:25Speaker 3: you know, buying and selling these cryptocurrency assets, like within
- 32:28Speaker 3: a month, you're going to have massive CGT issues. Potentially,
- 32:32Speaker 3: if you've bought an asset one month and then sold
- 32:34Speaker 3: it two months later, you're gonna end up having to
- 32:35Speaker 3: pay a lot of CGT on it because the government
- 32:38Speaker 3: actually wants you to buy assets for the long term
- 32:41Speaker 3: to support retirement, so they will give you discounts on
- 32:44Speaker 3: holding it for a longer period of time. So if
- 32:47Speaker 3: you've been doing that this year, I definitely recommend jumping online.
- 32:51Speaker 3: There is actually an entire blog on it from last
- 32:53Speaker 3: year on the Atier website.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Super helpful. Already last thing to touch on in terms
- 32:58Speaker 2: of getting organized for the next financial yart, especially for
- 33:01Speaker 2: outside hustlers and freelancers. How can we stay on top
- 33:05Speaker 2: of things? How do you manage it? What would you suggest?
- 33:07Speaker 3: I would suggest keeping track of all of your receipts
- 33:09Speaker 3: and all of the things that you might forget about.
- 33:12Speaker 3: It might be really easy to go, oh, great, I
- 33:14Speaker 3: incurred this laundry fee for my uniform and you forget
- 33:18Speaker 3: about it six months later when tax time comes. So
- 33:21Speaker 3: I definitely recommend having that album on your phone of
- 33:23Speaker 3: all the pictures of the receipts that you've been taking
- 33:25Speaker 3: photos of. If you want, you can download the Ato app,
- 33:29Speaker 3: which will really help you actually keep track of what's
- 33:32Speaker 3: going on and they're a little bit more clear. As
- 33:34Speaker 3: I said, I like to have it on my phone
- 33:36Speaker 3: because I like a little bit more flexibility, and to
- 33:38Speaker 3: be honest, I didn't want another app, but keeping track
- 33:41Speaker 3: of it's really helpful. Keeping a spreadsheet is also really
- 33:44Speaker 3: helpful because it's one of those things where you can
- 33:46Speaker 3: kind of put in your income and all of the
- 33:48Speaker 3: things that you want to claim so when tax time comes,
- 33:50Speaker 3: you've got everything in one location. But at the end
- 33:53Speaker 3: of the day, whatever works for you. To be honest,
- 33:56Speaker 3: everyone does it differently, Like you do it differently to me.
- 33:58Speaker 3: I'm sure Tony does it differently, is well, and we
- 34:00Speaker 3: aren't all one size fits all. And while we're on it,
- 34:03Speaker 3: if you do have multiple income streams, it's really important
- 34:06Speaker 3: to keep track of all of those. One of the
- 34:08Speaker 3: easiest ways to keep track of your income in total
- 34:11Speaker 3: is actually just to wait till your group certificates come out.
- 34:14Speaker 3: I think the people have this mad dash on June thirties,
- 34:17Speaker 3: that's July one. They're like, oh my gosh, I have
- 34:19Speaker 3: to get my tax in right now, because either they
- 34:22Speaker 3: feel stressed about it or they just really want their discount.
- 34:25Speaker 3: But more often than not, it's not the priority. Like
- 34:28Speaker 3: and I'm not saying don't do your tax. Absolutely do
- 34:30Speaker 3: your tax, but wait until you've got your group certificates
- 34:33Speaker 3: from your employer, because they'll tell you exactly how much
- 34:36Speaker 3: income they paid you. And if you've got multiple employers,
- 34:39Speaker 3: wait until you have all of those group certificates so
- 34:41Speaker 3: that you can actually submit your tax return and know
- 34:44Speaker 3: with clarity that's what it is, and given the ato
- 34:47Speaker 3: has I would say, you know, progressed with leaps and
- 34:49Speaker 3: bounds over the last few years. Those group certificates are
- 34:52Speaker 3: actually usually visible already on your tax platform, so more
- 34:56Speaker 3: often than not you can just log into your tax
- 34:58Speaker 3: platform online and see where they're at and make sure
- 35:00Speaker 3: that they're right. But the biggest tip I would have
- 35:03Speaker 3: is just keep track of all those incomes and make
- 35:05Speaker 3: sure that when you do get a group certificate, just
- 35:08Speaker 3: don't take it as gospel. Just double check it and
- 35:10Speaker 3: be like, Okay, cool, is this actually what I earned?
- 35:12Speaker 3: Do I feel comfortable with this? Does this make sense?
- 35:14Speaker 3: Because you don't want to have a mistake come up
- 35:16Speaker 3: and you had just accepted your group certificate for what
- 35:19Speaker 3: it was.
- 35:19Speaker 2: And if you're a sole trader or side hustler, maybe
- 35:22Speaker 2: keep track of it in a spreadsheet, keep a hold
- 35:24Speaker 2: of any invoices you send out because you're not going
- 35:26Speaker 2: to have a group certificate sent to you.
- 35:28Speaker 3: That's your job, absolutely, And if you're a sole trader
- 35:31Speaker 3: or a side hustler, you usually have something like moob
- 35:34Speaker 3: that keeps track of it for you, so definitely keep
- 35:37Speaker 3: on top of that. But you know, different horses for
- 35:39Speaker 3: different courses, but at the end of the day, the
- 35:41Speaker 3: summary of this is keep track of it, don't stress
- 35:44Speaker 3: too much, and make sure that when you are claiming things,
- 35:46Speaker 3: you are only claiming things that you are actually eligible
- 35:49Speaker 3: to claim.
- 35:49Speaker 2: My friends, awesome, so thank you for wrapping the key
- 35:52Speaker 2: takeaways for me. One thing that I wanted to point
- 35:55Speaker 2: out was not only a our accountants helpful, but they
- 35:57Speaker 2: are also tax deductible money exactly right. If you use
- 36:01Speaker 2: an accountant this financial year, you'll be able to claim
- 36:03Speaker 2: their fee in your following tax return the next financially.
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