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[Ep 30] Is the “Mental Health Crisis” Actually a Brain-Energy Problem? | Dr. Patrick Porter · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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We are here at the Performance Driven Living Podcast at the Changing Life and Destiny
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Conference down in Plano, Texas.
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And I have the distinct honor of speaking with Dr. Patrick Porter today.
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And Patrick is the founder and the science and the everything behind the science of
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brain tap.
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And if you've ever been to a natural health and wellness conference anywhere, Patrick's
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there.
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And I think he honestly, I think he secretly runs them all because I've never been to
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one that he's not at, which is weird, but I absolutely love the science.
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I love everything about this.
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And yesterday you received an award.
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Tell me exactly what that was because at a dinner you got honored and it was so well deserved.
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They gave me the person of the year award, I guess, because of all the help we're doing.
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I mean, when you think about metal, the metal wellness crisis we're having today, it's
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really a brain fitness crisis.
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The brain is not able to wangulate through time, so I think with our, mostly our doctors
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and other people out there sharing it, because one guy can't do all that, but we have a
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great organization.
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They've kept doing it.
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I've done a lot with Al since it's the very first one, helping bring people in.
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I didn't, I don't run them all, but I do help them, I do help them make them better
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if I can, because it's going to help me, because I'm a vendor also too.
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I'm not just a speaker, we have a product.
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And so there's a couple of things I love here, and that is a performance driven living
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our entire goal is speaking to an audience of people who want to learn ways that they
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can be better here, and like how do we learn more, how do we, how do we just show up better
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in the world?
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Whatever that is.
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Like it can be any number of topics, but I love your background brain tech specifically,
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and part of it is because I know your intention, and that is, let me back up a minute.
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You're a clinical psychologist, and obviously you've practiced for years, and this is kind
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of a relatively new pivot to your career, getting into using brain tech as opposed to clinical
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practice and research.
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My background is in clinical psychology also, so I've done private practice therapy and
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whatnot.
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Kind of fun, but you really do see a world in crisis.
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And as you know, I actually sit on the board of a recovery center that actually deals with
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both addiction and trauma recovery, and there very much is the core of what that organization
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is is talking about this, this union, this alignment of body, mind, and spirit, and different
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types of treatments focus on different aspects of that, but there really needs to be a synergy
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between those things, and brain tech is part of what they do, and you know that you've
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been amazing, the supportive of that as well.
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I want you to unpack that for me on what it is, first of all.
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Well, I have it here, just a little picture of it, it uses a visor and it has earphones,
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but what it is, it's a way to synchronize brainwave activity and provide energy to the brain.
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When you talk about, there needs to be something to make those pieces all connect.
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There's a matrix of energy in our own body.
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It starts with our DNA, 10 billion miles of DNA running through your blood, and right
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now we can extend from here to Pluto, and what it's doing right now, it's drawing in
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light energy and transmitting it to your codes.
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That's the 99% of junk DNA they said, but in 2018 they realized it's actually changing
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our DNA every 44, about 40 seconds.
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Every DNA pairs changing based on the information from this field, and so it's no longer like
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guesswork.
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DNA each actually has it on their website, it's they call it the biosphere.
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And so I was just talking with Philip earlier from Lila, and we literally got into this conversation
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about the biosphere.
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Yeah.
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So when they talk about, they put it up there in 1994, but they're not telling the doctors
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about it apparently, because they still think it's some mystical, metaphysical thing,
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but we're all energy.
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So in order to get your diet to work, for instance, you have to have your body, when you're,
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they call it rest digest and recover because you're in a parasympathetic state, but if
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you go there in a high anxiety state, you call sympathetic state, your body's not going
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to digest.
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It doesn't even apply to food.
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So you could be taking the best supplements, but they're not going through the system.
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So we use light, sound and vibration to train the brain.
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So like I said, our field in this room, where the lights, the sounds, everything going
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on, is playing into, do we feel safe, are we okay?
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If we don't feel safe, our body's going to go into protection mode, and that's at a
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cellular level, not just psychologically, but psychological system will program the biological
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system.
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So that's why you can, you can predetermine if you're going to be stressed about something,
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like something, I'm so stressed about beating somebody, and then they get them stressed
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out.
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And they go, I can't believe I'm stressed.
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I was, well, I knew this was going to happen.
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I knew that was going to.
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So this intuition that we have is really this 100 billion-year-old processor, the brain,
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working for us.
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So we do a great job is we get people time to step outside of all this and really go inward.
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Because once you figure out, I tell people it's the story, like in psychology 101, when
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they put the frogs in the pot, they put one frog in while it was boiling and jumped
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right out.
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So there's no way I'm going to do that.
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Yeah.
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Boils.
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Right.
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Because he doesn't notice gradual changes, yeah.
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And that's what's happening to people in our life.
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I tell people that's me.
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I tell people that's me.
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Yeah.
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So they don't realize they're doing the backstroke to death.
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You know, they're taking the easy road, and our body needs to be worked.
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So number one, we want to get people up moving.
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So we actually have brain jack sessions that work with, we have a, for clinics, we have
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a little, you can actually get it for your house too, but it's a balance board.
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And then we have exercises.
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You can neurologically train your brain, and then you use brain tap to do the recovery.
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Most people don't realize when you exercise, you create something called BD and F, brain
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run, or tropic factors.
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That's the most important thing for neuroplasticity.
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Then think of neuroplasticity is your brain's capacity to change.
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Because we can't really measure your own activity in the brain.
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I mean, they talk about it, but we can't measure that.
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All we can measure is energy positions in the brain.
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And then what they do is have a mathematical formula that says, if we have 8.1 volts in
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that area, we know it's this many neurons.
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You know, so most people, when they were born, they had 18.1 volts in their brain.
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As we age, just because the brain will do what's called neurocruing, a lot of people
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think the more you know the smarter you become, no, the more you know the dumber you become
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the less you create neuroplasticity because you get narrow-minded in your thinking.
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You start thinking everything.
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You start seeing things only through your own filters.
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That's the biggest thing even with addiction is getting people to start thinking outside
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those filters because they think the only solution is alcohol.
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The only solution is heroin.
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The only solution is cocaine.
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I want to jump in there real quick because I gave a talk here yesterday and I actually
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talked for a few moments during there about this topic of unlearning.
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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I would love your opinion on this because I'm a lifelong learner, right?
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And I think we all consider ourselves lifelong learners and I think one of the things that
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I find myself challenging myself with on a regular basis is what is it that I know that
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I shouldn't?
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And how do I unlearn that?
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Because the brain tends to chunk, right?
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Right.
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Yeah, the brain will, if you, as long as you keep firing those neurological systems, you
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know, have losses, those neurons that fire together, wire together.
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Yep.
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So we reinforce the beliefs.
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Yes.
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So I tell people, I say, think of your brain like a field and it's the middle of summer
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and the grass grew up really big and you kept walking to the store a certain way.
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So you built a path.
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It's easy to get that way.
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But somebody told you, hey, there's a better store over here, but you got to build a new
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path.
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Yep.
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The first time through it's going to be a little difficult, second time through it's
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going to be a little bit.
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But if you keep using that path, this path will become beaten down.
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This path will grow over and that's what happens in the brain.
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Yeah.
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The brain, we lose neurons as we age and that used to be a concern, but we also have neurogenesis.
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So what, what you do, the best thing you can do is let's say, for instance, you have
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a connection to cigarettes.
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And you want to get rid of them.
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Well, people tell you cigarettes are bad or not going to top you because that's not
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where it's compartmentalized in your brain.
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Cigarettes are doing something positive for you.
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Like maybe they're relaxing, maybe they're, maybe you're focusing on something.
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They're giving you time away where you get away from people because it's attached
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to a rewards center.
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Yeah.
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So what is that rewards?
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Now what you need to do is find out that underlying positive intention and link it
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to something else.
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What will happen is the brain will wipe over the non-effective views.
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The brain always only does the number one best thing for you, but it doesn't know the
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number one best thing until you assign it.
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But if you keep doing something wrong, but you're saying you don't want to do it, but
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you keep doing it.
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The emotion drives behavior, so you might have to work on the emotional trigger.
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There could be a trigger like somebody likes a cigarette that could be the trigger or
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after me, it could be a trigger, after sex, could be a trigger, you know, all these are
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triggers.
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So now you have to work on the trigger.
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What is that?
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What is it going to do for you after that experience?
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How can I make a shift?
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What can I do differently?
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That's how you, you can't really erase it because your brain remembers everything and
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people go, I don't have a good memory.
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No, you have a perfect memory.
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It's the recall system.
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So as we age, we have this neurocruing I was talking about.
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So if you don't keep high energy in the brain, about 27 years old, most people's brain
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will be about 10.1 volts, and it should remain there for the rest of your life, but because
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and I want to point something out here, we as a society, and this is my strong, strong
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opinion, tend to tell people that as you age, you should just expect to decline.
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Yeah, that's not true.
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And it's not true because healthy is healthy.
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You probably read about ancient cultures, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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Do you keep the wisdom of the tribe of the youngsters?
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No, they keep moving the elders.
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No, it's all with the elders.
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Why would they keep the, why would they keep all the most important, valuable information
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to the tribe with the elders if they didn't have great, sharp memories?
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It's their memories.
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We're falling apart.
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Exactly.
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Great minds.
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Yes.
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The problem is that if you're, they were actively working and they didn't just, just
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associate from the tribe.
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Right.
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And this idea of retirement is a very new thing, like the elders held positions of leadership,
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the elders held positions of mentoring and teaching, like, that they always had jobs.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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The idea of not having a job.
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The purpose, our biological system, if we don't have purpose, we'll shut down.
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Yes.
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We are, we are intention driven.
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So if we don't have an intent or purpose, and we don't have connection, our body will
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say, we're not needed.
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We're like, we're like that neuron that doesn't, he's anymore.
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The, the consciousness will grow, neural prunus.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So you're driving me in a direction of a topic that is, like, top on my mind all the time
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right now.
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And that is, that there's, there's a, a discipline that's, I say, relatively new that's coming up,
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a good friend of mine.
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I don't know if you know Dr. Olivia Lesler.
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Do you know Olivia?
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Sounds really good.
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You need to, if you don't.
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She's, she's just, I love her to death.
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But she is really spending, she's, she's more of a diagnostician now.
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She's an Australian MD who now mostly functions in functional medicine.
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But she is deep, deep into this, this, this study of psychonural immunology.
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Oh, look.
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And the psychonural immunology for listeners, if that's a new word, is this idea that your,
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your psychology is literally programming your physiology, and you make, yes, and you,
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you made a comment a moment ago about, you know, if you tell yourself you have no purpose,
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your biology response, what, your cells are like, oh, we don't have a purpose.
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All right.
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Well, we don't need to function like we used to anymore.
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That's why the average person retires and expires only five years.
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Yes.
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You got to, you got to have a purpose.
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You don't have to get paid for that purpose.
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I always tell people, what was your, what did you overcome in life?
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What, what had you survived?
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Because not everybody has to get older.
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Those are going to be less and less people at your reunion, right?
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Until you're the last person.
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And so what did you do differently?
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That's your mission.
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Teach that.
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Your drive, your purpose, right?
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Yeah.
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So you figure out, then what'll happen is it's something you're passionate about because
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you lived up, there's other people out there struggling again to you.
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The human condition, there's only 120 different ways you can screw this up.
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And they, and they're in every movie because there's only 128 scripts.
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Yep.
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We all run the same scripts.
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That's why when you watch a TV show or movie, you're going, that's like me or that's
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like me.
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Every episode is related to an I love Lucy from somewhere, right?
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Right.
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So in, and so I think that the main thing we, we prove it it also, your psychology, when
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you're going through the different brain waves and what we do with great tap, it also programs
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they got to make your neurotransmitters.
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So when I'm talking about, when people say we have a mental health crisis, no, we have
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a physiological crisis.
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The microbiome problem.
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We're sitting here.
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I mean, we're sitting here doing this.
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But if we were at our offices, we might be standing at desk, stand up desk or something
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talking.
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I do it at least half the day because I know sitting is so bad for you, but when you're
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sitting here, body saying, oh, must be time to rest because not too long ago, we were
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part of the food chain.
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We didn't just sit around for hours at a time.
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So we'd be praying.
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So we would have, so we think that our body knows everything we know, our body doesn't
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know anything.
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Yeah, it's like a fourth grader, it's going to respond to what we have.
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And so I always tell people, and this is from Bruce Lipton, we used to bring him up to
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quantum university all the time.
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He's, you ever read his book, Biles Your Belief?
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I hate it.
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Yeah.
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All it's a great book.
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I'll download it when we're talking.
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Yeah.
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And then, but what he says is your life is controlled by 95% of your subconscious smile.
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And people spend the next to ordinary amount of time on their 5% on their conscious thinking.
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But when you get under stress, when you get under pressure, you don't even think anymore.
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That's why, you know, if you get a divorce, you lose your job, do these things, I would
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tell my clients, don't make any major light decisions.
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Right.
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Because you're not thinking right.
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You don't have all the factors.
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Well, now people are running around in low level stress.
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And one thing I should tell the listeners, it's not just stress that you feel, it's a
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chemical response.
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Your liver holds 25 grams of glucogon.
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And every time you get that stress, you'll live in and it dumps into the system.
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Now, I've had people say, I don't know how I got diabetes, I don't eat any sugar.
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I said, it's not what you're eating, it's what's eating you.
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Injured stress is that what happens with that five tablespoons of sugar?
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Four cannot be used because you're going to have one tablespoon in your bloodstream.
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Correct.
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Your fat storage hormone has to be released.
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And then when that's released, the body has to store it in fat.
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And it says later we're going to need that because guess what?
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There's going to be a famine because I, they, all the genetic history of your, whatever
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made this body since the beginning of time is in here, encode it in here.
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It doesn't know that we have a supermarket in every corner, it doesn't know that hopefully
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we'll never go through a famine, but stores, and then at this point, we might, I don't
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even know.
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And if you're just sitting there and you haven't worked out today, so you have no room
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in your, for sugar and your muscles, all five does that.
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And now that happens every time the average person looks at their cell phone 300 times
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a day.
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If you look at your life as a pessimist, you're going to get that stress response.
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If you look at as an optimist, you might not, you know, you might, but if you, a lot of
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business owners, people like that are, they're always looking, oh, no, what's that?
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What happened?
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And they're, in fact, I just saw a show on Gaya, the, it's called spiritual science.
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It's a really cool show and they, they did this experiment with people where they were
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showing them random pictures and then they'm showing them a gory picture.
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Beautiful pictures.
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Gory picture.
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Every person in the study, 45 seconds before they showed that gory picture had a response
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to that gory picture before they saw it.
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So they knew about it before it happened.
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Wow.
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And then they did it with dogs, same thing, cats, same thing, birds, same thing that they
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had pictures of nice birds flying around them, they showed a snake.
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The natural predator, the bird knew about it before it actually came up.
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So this reality is what we think.
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Our brain is doing out.
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We're perceiving reality.
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And when you think about our brain, yes, experiencing it, yeah.
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And we anticipate it's actually called brain primal because our neurons have to be ready
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to fire and wire.
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You know, it's like, it's like getting out, starting your car, it's really, it's
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simple.
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I had a conversation with Luke Story recently, and we got in this whole conversation about
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how your words are power and how words affect your own physiology and whatnot.
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And you know, it was kind of this one of these, you know, surface conversations for a second.
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I'm like, look, let me give you an example.
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And I already told the story once today, but it's relevant to this.
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And that is, you know, I was like, if I were to shout duck right now, and I'm like, think
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of what's going to happen.
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I said, first of all, I'm going to put your entire physiology into a sympathetic nervous
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system response.
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Your body's going to flood with nitric oxide.
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I'm going to release endorphins in your brain.
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Your pupils are going to dilate.
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All of your major organs are going to shut down into survival mode.
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Your blood vessels are going to dilate from the nitric oxide, and I went through this
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list of things and I looked at one.
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That's one word from me, and I just affected your physiology with that amount of impact.
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And I went, what in the world do your words do to your physiology on a daily basis?
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Well, we know your words change to 1,000, 2,000 gene expressions.
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And it's either up regularly or down regularly.
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If you have a negative propensity or you're looking at life as a threat, it's going to
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down regulate.
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If you're looking at it as a challenge, and like some people just, they want to conquer
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everything.
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You know, they're gentle and gentle.
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They don't, they don't, they don't phase them.
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Those are the special forces kind of, they use stress.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so that's different.
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You're now too much of that is bad too.
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I mean, our body likes balance, but we need moments of that high stress.
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That's what exercise is for them working out.
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Then we need high quality relaxation.
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You know, and I think most people can't do that.
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So that's why one of the main reasons I invented the brain chapter at the time was great
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exactly.
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It was, it was actually called MC square at the beginning, because I like Einstein and
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you know, and so because when you use this technology, just to give an example to the
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professor, since we're talking about learning, we're, we're at Seminole College now doing
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the full college program, because we helped their golfers four years ago become national
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champions.
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We have a sports program.
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Can I unpack this while we're talking and just show people that are watching?
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Well, I have one at home.
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Yeah.
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Well, we were, while we were doing the study with them for the last four years, but they
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noticed was the golf team had the highest GPA in the school.
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So they put the softball team on it.
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Now the softball team and the golf team have the highest GPA in the school.
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Now we're doing the whole school study to show them if they use brain tap once a day.
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And we did it based on a study within the Google and Microsoft, we took, these were high
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performing.
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They wanted to figure out, Julie Aaron, who's a peak performance expert, did a study with
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us and she was asked by Google and Microsoft, how can we get our programmers to stop
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burnout?
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And she said, she calls me up and she says, Patrick, I use your brain to put what do you
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think we can do to help them out?
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And I said, they have to do a session at two o'clock in the afternoon.
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She said, why two o'clock in the afternoon?
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I said, because everybody's biology at two o'clock in the afternoon drops two degrees.
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It's really, it's part of the circadian rhythm.
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I did not know.
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He boots it.
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Most people think they need coffee, tea or chocolate.
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Know your body needs light energy, it needs a nap.
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Because if I took your genetics and mapped them all the way back to the beginning on
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earth, we would all start it from one place, the Serengeti.
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And what happens is the Serengeti at two o'clock in the afternoon.
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Absolutely nothing.
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Yours all sleeping.
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The lions are sleeping, the zebras are sleeping.
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The lions are running around looking for sales.
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You know, or something.
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You know, the lions are doing their spreadsheets.
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Right.
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So what happens is our bodies are by like, now at two o'clock a.m., you actually raise
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your temperature to two degrees because it's part of the body's chemistry to clean out
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the toxins.
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Which is part of the reason why it's best to sleep in cool temperatures, right?
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Yeah.
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So these are all things that we found out with us.
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Now what happened with that study just in listeners know, number one, they weren't going
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to do it.
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They were too busy.
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So I had to show them in Steven Covey's book, you know, he's got the guys cutting with
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the saw and he says, I can teach you to cut that tree down faster, sharpen the saw.
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No, we're too busy cutting down the tree.
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So many people are so busy being busy, they don't realize that they can time out.
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So that's the first thing we wanted to prove to them.
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Now this was a perfect case because they get paid on keystrokes.
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Imagine that.
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You're a slave.
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Everybody thinks working at Google Microsoft's this big, wonderful job as a programmer.
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You're just sitting there.
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There's a reason they call them flat fruit eaters.
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You know, they slide peaches under the door, keep a worker because they only get paid
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while they're team.
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So we knew exactly how much work they did during the day.
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The days they did brain tapping two o'clock in the afternoon, the average work reduction
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was 26% more work done by taking a 20 minute break by taking a day and a quarter a week
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worth of work by taking 20 minute break.
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Their sleep scores went up over 64%.
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They're happy to score and prove to 54%.
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Their likelihood of leaving the job with almost zero.
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It's absolutely crazy because our body is energy.
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So all day long, we're collecting this energy.
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We need to reboot that system.
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And that's what the two o'clock sessions are all about.
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It's an infurge.
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Yeah.
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So brain tip, obviously for anybody who's watching, I can show you, but it's like the brain
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tip functions by producing audio.
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So it's actually giving you sensors that those are actually brain wave signals that are
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in here, right?
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So you're different tracks actually have Delta waves, gamma waves and so on, depending
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of that, to synchronize the harmony of your brain into a different wavelength.
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But then also you're providing light cues while this is being used with the visor.
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Can you tell me about that?
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Yeah.
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It's called runoff lashing in the sciences called frequency following those spots.
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So our eyes actually bring in more light than any other of the body.
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It has more by the conduit per centimeter than anywhere else.
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And mitochondria's job is to absorb light and transmit light.
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So a lot of people will realize that mitochondria is telling yourselves what to do.
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Just like our son, think of our son as the mitochondria for our solar system.
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That's why to apply at 10 o'clock when you're in bed, you make more melatonin between
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10 and 11 than in your liver search, 10 and 11.
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But if you're not in bed, you don't get those benefits because you're up moving and
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doing your thing.
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So those are brain dependent, you know, brain wave dependent, but also synchronized with
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the light from the sun, the circadian rhythm.
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So what we're doing is we're matching the circadian rhythms.
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We're using red and blue light in the years and blue light in their eyes.
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We will eventually have full color light that's in our next iteration, we'll be out in
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about a year.
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The, I could just put the patent on for it.
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So it's going to go through like the different because also brain frequencies are colored.
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When you hear them, that's actually a color and they've matched that color so I can match
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the color and get the lights.
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So now we're going to have another layer, but the lights, these are color earth frequencies.
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So a few and I would go to the ocean and sit down, have a talk.
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Our body, the light from the ocean, the reflecting light and the ocean waves and the sound are
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creating what's called an isocratic tone generator.
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It's like by neural bits, but it can be done in a room in silver.
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We call it the civil sound.
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But the, what happens is our body will start to sink to 10 hertz frequency.
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That's why when people go to the ocean, they go, I don't know why it's so relaxed.
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Yeah, I just love it here.
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It's beautiful.
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Well, yeah, you're creating a seat of calling because everyone of these brain waves are
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matched to a neurotransmitter.
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So if we can, what we do though, it's hard for people to drop into theta.
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I know there's a lot of people, I don't even have to say they go to theta, but I measured
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on one hand, the people that can go to theta.
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Yeah.
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I know a couple.
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Yeah, yes.
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There are some people, but they're not going to be my clients.
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You know, those are people that are doing their own thing.
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They're on the mountain top somewhere doing it.
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But when you start triggering theta, you start producing something called GABA.
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GABA is a precursor to something called V&T, but you can, you're in Dallas with Dr. Rosenthal.
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We get a study of PTSD and they were wanting to use brain tap as an integration tool.
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So after they, when we found out with the psilocybin, I said, I've never done the psilocybin.
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I don't know what it will do.
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I have done it since then because I have to research.
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Well, that's the next question I want to ask you.
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I'm curious, but go ahead.
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So what we found out was while you're at a psilocybin, you have this high activity of gamma,
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especially in the right hemisphere top top here.
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And then when I did my research in that area, the brain, that's where people that have
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like out of body experiences, you know, got the experiences, spiritual experiences.
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They always talk about that part of the brain tingling.
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So it was a reason the brain looks like a vortex or something for the brain.
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I'm not sure what it is.
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So what I did was I said to Dr. Rosenthal, I said, let's measure their brains and make
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sure it's consistent.
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I'm going to make some sessions to do that.
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Now we have 500 gamma sessions because we're having people have psilocybin.
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We just put on the gamma session, do your breathing exercise, could be like a 4, 8
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breath or box breathing or whatever you're going to do, get yourself ready and you'll
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just do it.
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Okay.
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So I have brain tap at home and I didn't realize that.
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So now you're going to get me in a massage chair is I have, it's literally sits next to
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my massage chair at my house.
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So now I'm going to be doing gamma sessions while I'm there.
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But I do have a question for you as I mean, we've got to wind up here in a second, but
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you're going to laugh because I've never done drugs, I've never, never, never interested
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me.
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Psychedelics never interested me.
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And my functional medicine doctor last year, probably around December, I said, you know
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what?
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You've been under a lot of stress lately and I'm concerned about neuroinflammation.
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As she says, I actually want you to do a ketamine and treat me.
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So I got a brain tap on and got put in the zero gravity chair and everything else and
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then had a ketamine IV at the same time.
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It's the first time I've ever experienced anything like this, but I'm curious how the
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brain tap actually, you mentioned that's got the Gamma step, what we know with ketamine
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and I love ketamine and assisted treatments like that because it creates a lot of neuroplasticity.
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Now what brain tap will do is organize that neuroplasticity.
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Really?
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Yeah, we have, that's why we created the gamma series for that one.
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We have 10 sessions.
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They use the ketamine treatment cells for the 10 tracks that they use.
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It's in 66 minutes, the 60 minute track.
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Other than the extreme nausea that I experienced, I'm going to tell you it wasn't a, it wasn't
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a terrible experience.
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It definitely was something I'd never experienced before.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we have, like there's a line mat here over here, I think it's a PMF mat, a low level
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of PMF, the clinic that we work with where I've made the ketamine sessions for, but now
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they're available.
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So, but they lay on that mat, they do their ketamine, they do the brain tap, you're out
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of there.
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Just like when I do an AD, if you were done an AD, people get nauseated.
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I went to one in Sedona, Dr. Katrina, who did the training, I said, I'm going to bring
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my brain tap.
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So she said, okay, she had a brain tap too, but she didn't use it in the clinic there.
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So I did my session and I didn't realize I started to feel a little nauseated and you
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could adjust it.
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I adjusted the wrong way.
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I made it faster.
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I got done in 45 minutes.
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And she goes, how do you feel, I go, I feel great.
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She goes, you did that in 45 minutes.
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I said, yeah, she's in the next day I came in, get it, get in 45 minutes, don't you feel
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nauseous?
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I said, no, I'm using my brain tap.
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I make damage.
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I don't feel it at all.
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Because if you're outside the brain, so by the end of the time, the 11 people in the,
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I brought enough brain taps, you know, because I didn't, I was going to show.
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We used them there and we were tracking what would happen.
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And we know that you integrate more nutrition while you're in a separate, a sympathetic
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stool.
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So while they're up there worrying and stressing, I said, you don't have to be there for
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this.
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And digest.
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You got to be there if you're going to have toppings.
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So with IPs, we do it all the time, that's, in ketamine, I mean, I've never done it with
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the IV ketamine because I'm usually like totally out, I don't know, I've done it twice,
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so I don't, but I've done the, um, the nasal spray in the lodge.
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Yes.
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There's a group called, um, it's like a mobile ketamine, I get the sessions for them.
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So they send them a laptop and then a psychologist or somebody, a counselor will talk to them about
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that.
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And then they listen to me while they're doing it with the, with their earphones that I
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walk them through and tell them it's going to be safe.
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But mostly it's all music.
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So they can have an experience with you.
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Everyone's allowed to just chime in and say, you're in a safe place, you're okay.
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Well, they're doing it alone because most of the most of the ketamine journeys are guided
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anyways.
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Yeah.
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Patrick, they're going to yell at me here in a minute to shut up, but I can talk all afternoon
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with you.
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If you want to check out rings out, there's show notes, Patrick's bio, all that it'll
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be there where people can check that out.
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But buddy, so good to sit here and chat with you.
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I appreciate you taking the time today.
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I hope you're having a great show here.
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I did not repack that.
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Okay.
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I got the sleeve here.
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Okay.
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For those of you watching, again, we are here live at the Changing Life and Destiny Conference
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in Plano, Texas with Dr. Patrick Porter, the inventor, science, entrepreneur, all behind
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BrainTap and check them out, braintap.com.
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Thank you, buddy.
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Good to see you, buddy.