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#382: How Your Personality Type Shapes Your Diabetes · The Healthy Diabetic

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is episode number three hundred and eighty two of the Healthy Diabetic Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Coach Ken.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you don't know much about my story, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 25 in 2007, and I'm the founder of Simplifying Life with Diabetes, a diabetes health coaching company that bridges a gap between your medical team and the daily complexities that you face every single day living with this condition.
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  SPEAKER_02: I truly believe that every single one of us living or caring for someone with type 1 diabetes only has one job, and that's to figure out what's going to work for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you're looking for new perspectives and new ideas on how to live with diabetes, you've come to the right place.
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  SPEAKER_02: As always, before we get started, please remember that nothing that you hear on this podcast should be considered medical advice or otherwise.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: Please always consult your medical team before making any changes to your diabetes management.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, got Graham on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Graham's back as usual, two days a week.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you don't know much about me and Graham's story, we're two type ones that together have just about 50 years of diabetes experience living with this condition.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we hope that you listening to these conversations between me and Graham, we hope that we inspire you to think differently about how you're managing your diabetes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Graham, what's up, man?
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  SPEAKER_02: How you doing?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: How's everything going?
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  SPEAKER_02: How's it going?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you a tabs open guy or a tabs closed kind of guy?
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  SPEAKER_00: A tab?
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  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like in your internet, when you're on the internet, when you're on doing something, do you do you have all your tabs open or do you like do you like like the closed tabs?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: And like are you hyper aware of how many tabs or how many missed calls?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you have missed calls right now or missed texts?
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  SPEAKER_02: I never have missed texts because my uh messenger is always up on my computer.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if something comes through, I always see it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Which also means that uh I have to prioritize those messages.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the same with emails, I get a notification that pops up on on the top right of my screen when I get a text messenger email.
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  SPEAKER_02: So then I'll read it real quick.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if it if I need to respawn right now, I'll respawn.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in terms of tabs, yeah, I've got tons of tabs open.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: I use three different internet browsers, all for different things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And each one of those internet browsers have probably five to seven tabs open on them.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot of tabs open.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they uh are they like million full tabs where you like you plan to there's something you're gonna use, or are they just oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So on this on this one right here, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So this internet browser is Microsoft Edge.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've got Riverside, which is what we record the podcast on.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've got three tabs open for Canva, because all three of those tabs are for social media, something specific for social media.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've got Instagram open, and then I've got YouTube open.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's just this internet browser.
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  SPEAKER_02: Chrome, I use for all of my gym, all the business stuff for the gym, and then Safari I use all for the business stuff for the diabetes business coaching.
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  SPEAKER_02: So and I've got two tooth hole pages open with tabs on Safari.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a hyper.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a hyper closer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a hyper closer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well when I close I'll close stuff when I don't need it, but most all the tabs I have I need.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm from a generation where if you like left your computer opener or something, someone's gonna sit at your desk and they're gonna start writing emails from your email.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was big.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like when I when I worked corporate, you would just be like hanging around the office and someone would come up to you and be like, yo, you want me to like you want me to like go out to dinner with you tonight?
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  SPEAKER_00: I like I don't really have time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you're like looking at the person like, bro, what are you talking about?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you just you just sent me an email saying like you have to take me out to dinner tonight, like no questions asked, I'm paying the whole bill.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you now I'm like, what are you talking about?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you come to find out, oh, you left your email open.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I think I'm always guarded, I'm always guarded from some like, and that's just like learned behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always I always close things, especially on my on my computer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I just I'm always using the same tabs on the same just on the same what websites and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I don't I don't close them unless they I absolutely need it.
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  SPEAKER_02: If I'm just searching something, then I'll close it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But other than that, all the tabs stay open.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like a tab open when I'm logged into you know, you're always there's so many things you're logged into these days.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I I I wouldn't want to get logged out, like, you know, logged out or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you do you use the same password for everything?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: What if it's numbers?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if it's numbers?
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  SPEAKER_00: Would you use the same sequential number?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: You change that up?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, I mean, if if it's something that I use a password for, yes, but I use a specific website that I literally store every single thing in my life on and then and then I use that website to generate a specific password and I put that as my password for different things, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So each each thing that needs a username and password has a different password.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it and it literally just pops up itself because I already have it all connected to my to my to each browser.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That reminds me of the, you know, there's that, I don't know if it's an old, if it's a wives tale.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's actually a real story that a guy has like a billion dollars sitting in crypto, but he doesn't remember the password, and he can only enter his password like ten times, and he's done it nine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You haven't heard that story, and apparently he like he lives somewhere where he knew that the trash came and got he knows where it is, but it's on like a hard drive, and he knows the day the trash came, he even knows he like located it in the the city dump that he's at, and there was all these back and forth, but the city never let him.
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  SPEAKER_00: You never heard you never heard that story?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like again, I don't it's it sounds now like Wives Tale, but I do believe it's a true story, so you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'd be calling crypto.
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  SPEAKER_02: How can I get into this?
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  SPEAKER_02: How can I reset my password?
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  SPEAKER_00: How can I it's I guess it's you know, whatever.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's more con it's like a self, it's like a self-destruct.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: So do you have plans for Labor Day weekend, holiday weekend?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, because we're going camping the following weekend.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're just chilling this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll be watching football, college football.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll be starting this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So kind of already it's kind of already started.
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  SPEAKER_00: What a weird, kind of a weird weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Kind of weird kickoff weekend, just like a weird a couple weird weekends.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, but the that's why they called this week one and they called last weekend week zero because there was like only six to eight teams playing last week.
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  SPEAKER_00: They said And they do that every year.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They well technically, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's kicking off their it's well, I've heard it called like kickoff weekend because everybody's kicking off their because 95% of the entire country is playing their first game this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm actually coming back, I'm actually coming back to Ohio for a friend's well friends get together, friends weekend.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Nice, you better hit me up.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think I'm gonna, but I'm oh you're not gonna be the scene.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: I thought you said you were c uh You said Ohio, I just automatically thought that you were saying Columbus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't I it's crazy.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have I don't have anything in Columbus anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's yeah.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is your mom still here?
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, my mom is in Florida.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: My mom's been in Florida full time for over a year now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_02: Diabetes, let's go.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: We just chit-chatted for eight minutes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have I want to throw something at you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's happening to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to know what you think about it, because you're gonna laugh when you hear me say it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think I've gotten so regular.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've I have regulated myself so much that I'm finding myself sitting exactly where I want to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like where wait, wait, wait, not where I want to be, but where they say you should be.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like 9095, okay?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: 9095 what?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: My blood sugar is is sitting right about 90 right now, okay?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: How long has it been there?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's hold on, hear me out.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I got up this morning, I was a little bit high, so I did a correction, went to the gym.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, it's been a normal you know, just working, had to run an errand, not doing anything too vigorous, but for the last couple hours, it's been right at about 90, 95.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like exactly where you want to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Ken knows this about me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm much more comfortable at about 120, 130, one even or 140.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I know it's you're shaping your head, and I'm finding myself, well, here just I'm listening, I'm listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just finding myself being tested a little bit, right?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like this is the whole this is the whole reason I'm not doing the CGM because of the reacting and but are you reacting doing more fingerpricks?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Finger sticks?
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, two things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm also like, say this is new to me, quote unquote.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm confirming, you know, I'm I'm getting used to it, I'm getting a feel for it, I want to know.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: But the second thing I definitely do is I'm always convincing myself, like, oh, do I feel a little like I spent a lot of time convincing myself that one little feeling of you know, I thought about this.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: There is uh there was an article that came out about the lunch crash and like what the lunch crash does to people and how it affects your day and this and that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I'm like, I wish I could just feel like what normal people feel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, am I just feeling a normal well no sometimes I'm I'm thinking like, am I just feeling a mid-afternoon crash and it's nothing to do with my diabetes, and I don't need to, you know, attribute it to being low or being high or this or that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a bit hard to separate that, but But you're the way your system works is completely different because you are a diabetic than then than someone else's someone else that doesn't have diabetes when they go through that crash.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're going to that crash because they ate a shitload of ultra-processed carbohydrates or a high amount of carbohydrates, and now their system is bringing them them back down, right?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: They're not feel they're not feeling a crash in terms of low symptoms.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: They're feeling a crash because there's their body's burning off or storing or whatever all of that energy, right?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's utilizing all that energy in whatever way it's utilizing it.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's why they feel that crash.
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  SPEAKER_02: They've they're eating a crap load of carbohydrate, crap load of sugar, and now they feel that crash.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and another thing I just read about, and maybe it was in the same article, they were talking about how there are there are jobs, there are lifestyles that demand things that are out of your control, and one of them is taking clients out to eat.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this one guy was talking about how difficult it is because he's just expected to go out to eat often enough, where it's just it's that it and then that that definitely attributes to a a mid-afternoon crash, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a bunch of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: People go out, sit down, they'll have a drink at lunch.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's a long event, and then regardless of what they're eating, you know.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I I thought that was a good that's a good point.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a perspective you don't think about, but it's true, you know.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: It but yeah, it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the business world, I'm just saying, like outside of outside of the industries we work in, you know, there is a a hustle and bustle business world out there, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's the city life, there's all those things.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's, you know, there's people that have 30 minutes for lunch, they and they gotta go out and grab something real quick too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um just a lot of different situations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everything you're describing in terms of the individual that is high-performing work, or they only have 30 minutes or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's that individual's choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: That is that individual's choice to go out to a business dinner, a business meeting, and drink alcohol, or eat ultra-processed foods, eat wings, just just maul down some food.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's that individual's choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: No one's telling them they have to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe that that environment is dictating that they that they do it.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: I've had this conversation with so many of my business professionals over the years from the fitness nutrition aspect.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you're trying to be in optimal health, not saying that you can't go out to a business dinner and drink yourself stupid or drink beer or drink alcohol and and eat food, eat a bunch of food.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, what I'm saying is that what you're ultimately trying to accomplish.
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  SPEAKER_02: If someone has a weight loss goal, that's easy to kind of think about.
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  SPEAKER_02: If someone has a weight loss goal, like a let's just say a male or even a female, and they're constantly going out, they they are forced to, or it's part of their job to go out and schmooze clients, go out with clients, do all these things, they are choosing to eat wings and fries, burgers and fries, multiple drinks.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're choosing that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So what what and again, it again, I I'm not in that world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I can't say what the societal pressure really feels like.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just know when I go out to business lunches or business dinners, they're completely different.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're with maybe one or a couple people.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not like we're schmoozing clients.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm making a specific st decision based off of what I want to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: If I want to go out and drink beers with a client or drink beers with whoever, and I want to go eat, okay, cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But at the end of the day, that's my choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that that's what irritates me with people because they want to make excuses.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, I have to go schmooze these clients.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's expected that I drink.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay, can you have a couple drinks and call it a day?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Most people can't.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: And and it's fun, right?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: You're in a fun situation with clients, you're you're you're partying, you're doing your thing.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, well, I get it 100%.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: But then don't come to me and complain about it.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: It is your decision, it's your choice.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I'm not if I'm in that situation, I I might do the same thing.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that like that that type of mindset of saying, I'm doing this because it's expected of me.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like that just, I mean, I don't think that is the right mind for the mind, right mindset.
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  SPEAKER_02: It should be I'm not going to do that because I'm trying to live an optimal, healthy lifestyle, or I'm going to do that because I want to.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: And there's nothing wrong with that.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: But don't kid yourself of blaming that behavior on someone else.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it is literally the same thing we talk about with diabetes.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Don't blame the systems, don't blame the technology, don't blame all the other bullshit that we have to deal with.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Don't blame that stuff because it's not that stuff's fault.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's how you are using and trying to manipulate or navigate those things of why it's not working.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sometimes there's things that are out of our control.
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  SPEAKER_02: 100%, but more times than not, you have a choice and it's the way you are approaching that decision.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's why I love what I do, because I'm I'm trying to get people to understand that the decision that they're making, how do they feel about the decision?
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  SPEAKER_02: Not is it a good decision or a bad decision, how do they actually feel about the decision?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: And then from that piece, then they will understand from their own perspective if it's a good decision or a bad decision in the moment.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: That I mean, that's it.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: When you talk about the afternoon crash, again, it's like that was your decision.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's your decision to go to Wendy's, Taco Bell, McDonald's, whatever it is, and eat a bunch of carbohydrates, have this big hu huge insulin spike, your pancreas works the right way, and now you have this big crash.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's your decision.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Let's remove food from it though.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like after five or six hours of work.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: How do you expect someone to feel?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: How do I expect someone to what do you mean?
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: If it's if it's what you do Monday through Friday, nine to five, right?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: Call Monday, let's let's call it Monday through Friday, nine to five.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you crash in the afternoon?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just removing food.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just remove the afternoon, the food conversation.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: At two o'clock, three o'clock, call it between two and three o'clock.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: I do think the average person that is is gonna have some type of it's like, you know, it's it's the way the sun moves and the moon moves, you know, you're moving more into the evening or to like that like later afternoon type of the day where you you're well you if you've been grinding all day, yeah.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: If you've been grinding all day, regardless if you're in school and you're a kid, if you're an adult, it's if you that's what I'm saying.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: But but no, but you're you're missing the whole entire point of this.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're not crashing, regardless if you remove food from the equation.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: You're not crashing because you just crash.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: You're crashing because of well, let me rephrase.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: Let me rephrase.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: So if you are inputting food in the equation, you're crashing because of the quality and what you're actually eating for the most part.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's pretty much why you are crashing in the afternoon.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: Because the quality of the food, the type of food, what you're eating, you don't have a good macronutrient split or breakdown of the foods that you're consuming, maybe you're not getting enough fiber, protein, whatever it might be.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're crashing because you have this big huge insulin spike and then you and then your system's crashing.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: When you talk about removing food, okay, you're crashing because you've been grinding all day.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like I do the same thing.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it's because of food because I don't have nutrients.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have food.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't really eaten yet.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: By 12 o'clock, one o'clock, I've had a couple snacks here and there to hopefully keep my energy and my fuel up, but I haven't really eaten a meal yet.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: So by 12 o'clock, one o'clock, I feel like I can take a I can pass out because I'm so exhausted from grinding all day in the heat of, you know, maybe I worked out, maybe I've got tons of clients, whatever it is.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: You're in the bit, you're a business professional, you have been traveling to meetings, you've been on Zoom, you've been doing whatever.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like that requires a certain amount of energy to stay present in those conversations.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: So of course you might crash.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: But you're not crashing.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're crash, all you need to do is actually just fuel yourself back up.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe take a walk.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe in the afternoon, if you have time, go go to the gym or go take a class.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's gonna rejuvenate you.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Why when I brought this up, why would I brought this up you immediately jumped?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm now need to look it up.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna look it up and break this down.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: When I bottled up immediately, your first your first thing was you were jumping to people crashing because of processed food.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: But now you're like kind of it's it's not just but it's not just processed food.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Processed food is part of it.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's it is the overload of mac, it's the overload of carbohydrates.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when the truck backs up and it beeps.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's truck can caniss right now.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not backing anything, I'm not backing up at all.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is exactly what I said the first time.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Go to a gym with a bunch of fucking fitness people, nobody's crashing there.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, are you kidding me?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: People are crashing.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: Get out of here.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: I spent my entire get out of here.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: We're so fit and we're so perfect.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's the only reason we're cashing.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I never said that.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: I never ever said that.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: I never said that.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's what you're saying.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not what I said.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: When I brought up the gym, I said if you fe if you have time in the afternoon and usually you crash at like one, two o'clock because either you haven't eaten or whatever, something you could do is go to the gym and exercise a little bit, move a little bit, and that will rejuvenate your energy.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Part of the reason you're crashing, especially if you haven't had any food, or if you have had food, it's because you've been grinding for three, four, five, six hours, and now you have a second to breathe.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_02: And your body's like, okay, central nervous system can relax for a second.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: You're not in fight or flight the whole the whole freaking day.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm talking about.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: I that nowhere did I say anything about people being fit at the gym, they don't ever crash.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's a bunch of BS.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because I've seen people crash in the afternoon.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: Even coaches that I've worked with crash in the afternoon after they just trained people for six hours in the morning.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's funny, you have to side side comment, you have to really write things properly.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Google because I wrote afternoon crash and it came out with all the accidents with all the accidents for the day.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are you looking up?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Why I mean nutritionists eat these eat these five things for lunch if you want to avoid the 3 p.m.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: energy crash.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't that's the most recent one.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: There was one New York Times or something like that.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: They just We don't care about New York Times.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Is there a medical research?
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Before I'm tired after lunch is common, afternoon fatigue, the perfect way to beat the slump, how to tackle mid-afternoon energy dips.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Let's like let's let's keep it a general conversation, a general topic.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not arguing that a lot of people d don't succumb to exactly what you said, but it was you very quickly said to pretty much it was like that's it, like that's the thing.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: But now we kind of broke it down and it was like, well, it's also this and that.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because you were talking about blood sugar and you brought in food.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: But you mean it but I think you talk when you when anybody says afternoon crash, what are they meaning?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's bec it's after you ate lunch, it's after you ate something, and then two hours later you're crashing.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that means.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: So is there an after-breakfast crash, an after dinner crash?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: Not typically.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're not adding a bunch of you're not adding a bunch of like being hyper-focused, you know, your stress levels on on high alert, you you're in fight or flight for three, four, five, six hours, you're like multi multi-focused on your work and your job.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's why you don't have a huge crash after breakfast and in dinner.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: If I sometimes we will have crashes at dinner, but so if I ate, say I woke up in the morning, had a cup of coffee, and went straight to work.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: I ate nothing until at 11 a.m., ate a pound of beef jerky that I made by myself.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: Literally, beef jerky.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I made it by myself, I dehydrated it.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's no enough, there's no nothing on it.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: What what should I plan to feel at noon?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: At 2 p.m., at 3 p.m.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: at 4 p.m.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: It it depends on what your day's been.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: You're probably not gonna have a blood sugar crash because of that.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're like a lawyer.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: There's never there's never talking, but because you're you're you're talking, you're talking in an absolute way that's not absolute.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: There's no absolute.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's me.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's me, great.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: Kind of I it doesn't matter if you're if it's you.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter if it's you.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're you're speaking in absolutes.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: There is no absolute when you're talking about this stuff, especially when you're talking about bodily biological processes.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess that's because there's so many things that could be happening.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: So for for us to say like, well, you're crashing because of just this thing, that's not real.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just because of food.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: There's other factors involved.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: So just like when you actually dose for insulin when you cook when you're looking uh when you're eating a meal, you're not just dosing for your carbohydrates.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're not just looking at what the carbohydrate ratio is.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's tons of other factors.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: So this is another thing I've learned that people it just people are like this, but I've met I've met people in business and they say this is what their mom is, this is what my mom has always done.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: What about the really fit woman that spends her mornings working out, going to the gym, but every day she goes out to lunch?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: So like I had a I had a guy I worked with and his mom went to oh my god, I'm drawing the blank, the it's in Oval Malls, uh Cheesecake Factory.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: She had the Cheesecake Factory every day for lunch and had like a cob salad with salmon and you know a glass of white wine.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: What about what about that?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what about to to to to interject the food conversation and like the the drinking?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are studies about you know the health benefits to wine and things like that.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: So what about what about somebody that is having a subst going out but having a substantial lunch, like a s like a salad or a piece of salmon and a small glass of wine?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Is uh are you saying that person is crashing?
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm asked so this in the same context of the question.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is there is there like is a crash to be expected from that because they're also eating they're eating out and drinking, or is it not necessarily.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: Not necessarily.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: So the the the crash, again, the crash happens because of multiple factors.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just one.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just bad food, it's not just a shitload of carbohydrates, and now that person crashes after, you know, uh an hour, two hours, three hours when their system is breaking everything down, right?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many other factors.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: I crash every let me say every single night I crash.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: At night.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: At night, at eight, about eight, eight thirty, because my body's had enough.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: I've been on hyper alert all day.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: I've been working, I've been thinking like strategically about things, I've been training people in the morning, I've been out in the sun, I've been like do doing whatever.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: I've been going about my day, and I get up at 4:30, 445 every single morning.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: So because I get up that early, my body's done.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's ready for bed at 8, 8.30.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: That that crash, that crash has nothing to do with food.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: It has nothing to do with, yeah, it has nothing to do with food.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: It has everything to do with because I'm at the end of my day, and my body knows it has to get up the next morning at 4:45, 4.30, and I've already been awake for so long, and my body's like, okay, we can finally relax.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: We can finally take a second.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: And that's part of what happens in the afternoon crash, or even once someone gets home at 5 p.m.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: from work, or a kid gets off school at 2, 3 o'clock.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: That could happen.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: Because their system has been in overdrive all day long, and they finally have a second to just kind of mellow out and chill.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: And it might just be, hey, this crash is coming on, it's gonna last for a half hour, and then I'm gonna be good to go.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Which is also why people medicate themselves with caffeine.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm crashing in the afternoon, I better, I better drink some coffee so I can finish my day.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: What's your thought?
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: What's your thought on a nap, then?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's health benefits to napping.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I again, it any time that you're allowing your body to recover in any way, I think it's it's a positive thing.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: The only question becomes for napping Why are you napping?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, not even why are you napping?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because sometimes you just need a nap.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: By Friday, I need fucking naps.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: I need some naps.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: I need some rest.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: I need some like I need it.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: But Monday and Tuesday, I don't need no naps.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: But by Friday, Saturday, yeah.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: I I could use a nap.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: You you made a comment to me earlier about, you know, I'm I'm assuming that it all looks this way.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: You're also that's you assuming every weekend is perfect and you've been able to rest and you've been able to relax.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: You're that's assuming there's no rock.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Days are the same for you, right?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, most days are pretty darn the same, pretty the same.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: On the weekends, though, it just depends on if we've got things going on, right?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: This weekend we're not doing anything, not anything major planned, but next weekend we're going camping again.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: So from Thursday, really Wednesday night to Sunday when we get back, or really Monday morning, like I I'm gonna be in hyperdrive, overdrive.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: I get to relax, of course, through once we get there, but it's still I'm still on hyperdrive sometimes.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: Do you like routine?
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: I love routine.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think routine is the only reason why I have good solid blood sugars.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Your your your your schedule routine, like your fourth, you know, that's what I mean.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you like that route?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you like being on a routine as opposed to mixing it up every day?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: I love being on a routine.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: I love being on a routine.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I will say that I do love mixing it up every day.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, as an example, when I go camping, hyperdrive Wednesday to get ready for camping, hyperdrive Thursday as we leave.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: I get it everything unpacked, we get the 10 up, we get everything situated in the campsite on Thursday.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: By Thursday night, I can relax.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Friday, Saturday is a nice relaxed time, but then Sunday is hyperdrive again because you got to pick up, you gotta come home, you gotta unpack everything, I gotta wash everything off, I gotta, you know, so it's like it, it's it's the process of what's going on.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Where on the weekends that I don't have to do, then I'm just doing normal chores around the house.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm still chilling, maybe I might be working for a little bit.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: But other than that, I'm I'm trying to relax.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to, I'm trying to allow myself to recover, which is what Saturday and Sunday is for, right?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's for to get you set up to get through the next week.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: So could you be doing things, but you're relaxing?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: I do that every day, right?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm still relaxing.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like today I got home from the gym, it was like, I think 11, 11:30, and I didn't have anything on the schedule at least till two o'clock our our meeting.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm still working, so I got some lunch, I got to hang out with the girls a little bit.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: I filled up the I blew up the pool because it's like 90 some degrees here right now.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: They're in the they're out, they're out front in the pool, like just chilling in the heat.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I got to eat.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: I did a little bit of work before we got on this call, and then and then that was it.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm still relaxing, but my brain isn't still in hyperdrive because it's like I gotta do this, I gotta do this, I gotta get this done, I gotta do this done, I gotta do this, I gotta I got gram at two, then I got another call at five, and then I got another call at seven.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's still in hyperdrive, but I'm not physically in hyperdrive.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like I am during like when I'm at at the gym, I'm physically in hyperdrive.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, it took me getting much older to realize my wife is this too, my mom's this way.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Just by nature, I like doing things, but while you're doing the things that are just thoughtless, be thoughtless.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like just check out like whether it's gardening or cleaning the pool, mowing, or even exercise in some regards, you know.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's great.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I I it's probably my biggest fear in life is routine, is routine, is like the monot the monotony the monotony of routine.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm I'm up, I I'm just petrified.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like every if I had to wake up every day at 4 30, like No, I don't like doing that.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: I can't stay, I can't stand doing it.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: I do it because I have to.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: I do it from I have to, right?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to do that whatsoever.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to work up wake up at 4 30.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: I get it.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Five o'clock, five thirty, six thirty, seven thirty.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's when people are in the gym.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: That are going in before work.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's the prime time for the gym.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I gotta be in there at those time frames, right?
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't I don't want to eventually I'll stop doing that.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually I won't go in that early and I'll just do online stuff, or I'll just do stuff in the afternoon, or I'll like eventually I'll be able to do that.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: But right now, I enjoy it so much that I'm gonna keep on doing it.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: The the thing that I would say about routines, okay, and habits, because I think they're one and the same.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like building routines, have a consistency, building habits, they all kind of intertwine together.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: The one thing I will say about routines is if you are if you are afraid or if the or if you are so fed up with what's going on, that's not a good routine.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: My morning routine, it's not a good routine.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's a it's a routine that I have to do.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't enjoy it.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's the thing that I would kind of say with routines.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a routine that you enjoy or is it improving your day?
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: And if it's not, if you can get rid of it or readjust it, I could 100% try to readjust my schedule and just work all nights.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Work from like 3 to 8 p.m.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't want to do that either.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because I would rather be home with the girls.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: I could do that, but I don't want to do that.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm choosing to go in earlier.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I'm done with my day, my four or five sessions before they even get up.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's awesome too when you really think about it.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, it's a pain in the butt to get up at 4 30, be in the gym at 5 30, train for four or five hours, and then come home, but I'm coming home at 11, 12 o'clock.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: They're just, I mean, they've only been up for maybe an hour, maybe two at the most.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: Half most of the time they're still in their pajamas.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: They're reading, they're doing school stuff.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like I would much rather that than having to go in at from 3 p.m.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: to to eight p.m.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: or nine p.m.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: And missing dinner time, missing them at night, missing putting them to bed, all the things.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: To really like but to really loop it in with diabetes, it's and I think I've done this a million times.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's kind of that conversation with that you have with yourself and you say, This is what's best for me.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, it it might not be easy, but this it this is what's best for me, you know, or like in the way you're saying this is what's best for my family.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: But again, to make it about again, for me, maybe you can give an example in your relationship with Kelly before you had kids.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: For me, it was sitting my wife down or saying, like, yo, like if I wake up in the morning and the first thing I do is work out or go to the gym, that's I'm not trying to be selfish.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm you know, I've designed my schedule around I've designed my schedule around being able to have some time in the morning to like set myself up.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because as you know, like you know, it's it's it's it's a fear.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like definitely like I'm checking the box of the fear, you know.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to risk anything, so I think I'm a lot healthier, but then all the benefits fall into place, and then we feel better and you're acting better.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so you know, that was like something that I and for me it was two birds, one stone.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not just doing it for my diabetes, I'm also healthier for it.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was like a big one that you know for me for me that was a big for that was a big one.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure we all do it, we all do it a lot, even maybe putting the CGM aside.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: It was it it doesn't the other that's the other cool thing with diabetes.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: You can experiment.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be final.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're not you're not chiseling it in stone, you know.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: This putting CG I have I have a ton of CGM patches ready to get put on.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just not using you know, they're in a shoebox, they're topped away, like they're there when I need them.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: For now, I'm trying this out, and uh that's you know, that's as I said.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's your process.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's your process, but I like I said, no, nobody will ever it's one of the first things I'll ever tell you.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, get into a routine, get a schedule, get a calendar out, get a we just talked about the log books, like there's nothing but all of but all of that, Graham, is it's part of the process of what's gonna work for you.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: Some people don't want a logbook.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to freaking logbook anymore.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, some people buy a schedule.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Some people some people like thrive without having a schedule.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Prime example is my wife.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: She thrives throughout the day without having to be like, okay, I gotta do this, and I gotta do this, I gotta do this, I gotta do this.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like they literally get up and they might eat something, they might do a little bit of reading, and then it's like, okay, what do we want to go do?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: And that's how she's evolved her day.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's how she organizes her day.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: What do we want to go do?
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: We want to go to this museum, okay.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we want to go to the pool?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we want to go to the library, okay.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we want to go get ice cream, okay.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: That that is amazing.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could do that.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could get up at whenever the heck I want to get up and not have a care in the world because I'm just gonna let the day decide for me.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: Is it raining?
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: Is it hot?
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: Do can I go outside?
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: Is it too hot?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: Do I want to deal with the heat?
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I wish I could do that, but that's just not what I've chosen to do with my existence.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: She's staying home with the girl, so she has that ability to do that.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: Where I'm grinding because that's my personality.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: I want to grind.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: I want to do it.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: I want to do that.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: I can't sit still and just be like, okay, what's the day gonna take me?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe it's because I'm grinding, because I have so many things on my brain.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: Even when we go camping sometimes, and I'm sure everybody that's listening, I bet you can relate to this.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: When you set aside, when you're a grinder, when you are, you know, if you're someone that works all the time, or if you're an athlete that's constantly doing something, or whatever it is, if you're constantly having things planned out of things that have to be accomplished, and you finally get some space in your life to relax and nothing else matters, you don't have to worry about all that stuff, it's still hard to turn your brain off and not think about all that stuff you gotta do.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: I still take my computer with me when we go camping.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: I was lucky and I didn't really I didn't open it when the in our last camping trip and got there, bro.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's a bad one.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's no, it's not.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like they all know.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Mohican?
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we I didn't have internet.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't have internet, so I just closed it and I didn't open it back up.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm laughing because I've been there.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: But we're going to mommy.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to mom me next time.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like the in what next weekend.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: And mom me, like it's so open, like you can still get a signal from your phone.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I can still use my hotspot.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_02: I can still get a signal.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I could potentially still do work if I wanted to.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you get the star, get that?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm about to get that Starlink, dude.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: I heard Starlink's not.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: You have to like pay a lot of.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: I I've heard, again, I don't know for sure, but I've heard you have to pay a lot of money for Starlink.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would do as hell.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: They got Starlink Mini.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: They got Starlink Mini now, bro.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: Look that up.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: If I was traveling and we were and we were just like on the road all the time, I would definitely have Starlink.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, my fear, my fear is I'm on the road, we camp somewhere, and I'm using Starlink, but the signal's not strong enough to do live videos, or for me to do my coaching calls, or to even really be online and have it be efficient.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like that'd be my only fear.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Or it could be the complete opposite.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Or it could be the complete opposite.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it's it's a crazy world that we live in with having to think about so many things and then add diabetes on top of that.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: It is, it's a crazy world.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: It is a very crazy world to have to be able to do all of that.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: But it's what we gotta do.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: There's no other option.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's a crazy time right now to be diabetic and all the decisions that you have to make and everything else in life, and it's it's a crazy time.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: But we don't have any other choice, really.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_02: We don't we don't have another any other choice to be hyper-focused on what we're doing.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I would argue that being hyper-focused on what you're doing is only going to improve your situation.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: Don't make yourself crazy about it.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be, but it's still important to be hyper-focused on the decisions and understand the decisions.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: But again, they don't have to be difficult decisions.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to be make yourself crazy about the decisions.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: So we hope that you enjoyed this conversation, everybody.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for listening.
• 41:57
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• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: We release every Tuesday and Friday.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: So there's episodes either with me or Graham or myself on a solo episode, or we'll have a guest.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: There's a bunch of different guests coming up over the next three weeks.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited about that to get back into talking to other diabetics and not just having, you know, me and Graham.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: As much as I love talking to Graham, it's good to get other people on as well.
• 42:28
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• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, everybody, for listening, and we will see you guys next time.