Latest / Reflect Reclaim & Liberate - with Sallyanne Hartnell / Setting Boundaries in Relationships & Divorce Without Feeling Like A B*%$h
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- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Reflect, Reclaim and Liberate the podcast.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Finding the space for all of you in life and love.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Sally Ann Harlow, and this podcast is for anyone wanting to reclaim and liberate themselves in their relationships and their life.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Wherever you are on your relationship journey, these conversations meet you right there.
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- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Moving you from where you are to where you most want to be.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: A life and love completely aligned with your deepest desires and to have it all on your own terms.
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- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of Reflect, Reclaim and Liberate.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: And today I'm kind of excited to have you guys all to myself.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's quite a lot of talk and noise about boundaries, just sort of generally out in the ether, how we need to set them and what they are and all the things.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: But when you're navigating a challenging relationship, when you're making shifts, changes, or up-level up-leveling your relationship, or disentangling yourself from a relationship, even newly separated, divorced, or going through the process of separation, divorce, it can be a really confusing time and space to be setting boundaries, new boundaries, or redefining boundaries when there is so much else that's going on.
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: And so I really wanted to jump in and talk about boundaries in that particular context.
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: So boundaries are a really good and healthy thing, and really they're pretty simple.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: They're not big F off fences with razor wire or unscalable sheer walls of solid rock or ice, but they're simply a line that you draw around yourself, around your heart, around your body, around your space, around your home, around your energy, around your time.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: They're just a line that you draw around yourself.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: At their simplest, boundaries are the physical, mental, and emotional limits that we put in place to protect us, to protect ourselves, to protect our bodies, our thoughts, our feelings, our needs in relationships, all kinds of relationships.
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: Boundaries are a way of communicating to others information about ourselves, what we will tolerate and what we won't, what's okay for us and what's not, what you expect, um, where you will flex and what is non-negotiable for you.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: And the really interesting thing about boundaries is that they only become an issue when they're not being respected by others.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: Because when others are aware of and then respect your boundaries, you don't need to make a fuss about them.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: They're just there.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: It's only when your boundaries are bumped up against or even crossed that you need to stand up and speak out.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, you can stand up and speak out with grace and compassion.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: You can do it gently but firmly.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: You can do it assertively without aggression.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: And I really like the way Brene Brown defines boundaries or talks about boundaries.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: She reminds us that boundaries are about daring to love yourself enough even at the risk of disappointing or challenging others.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Boundaries are about daring to love yourself enough even at the risk of disappointing or challenging others.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: And this can feel like a big deal in our closest relationships.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: Because we don't want to disappoint or challenge those we are closest to.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: We don't want to feel like we've let them down, we don't want to bring in conflict.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: But the thing about boundaries is that once they're set, they actually minimize the conflict.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: Now, in the really early phases of a relationship, we are all in.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: We're in those rosy early days, and often in that we in that phase of relationship, we are so intertwined, we're so loved up that we don't really have any boundaries between ourselves and our and our new partner.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: And it's when that what we call that limerence phase, that phase where we can see no fault in our partner or in the relationship, that intense infatuation almost of early love, it's only when that starts to wear off or we start to emerge from that and and morph into a more mature relationship that's more grounded in reality that boundaries become an issue, I suppose, or become necessary.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: It's when we step out of that loved-up bubble of early relationship and we feel the need to step back a little bit or um reassert our independence, and that that can even be subconscious, that's when we need to define our boundaries and we need to set them clearly and compassionately.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: And it's in this sort of re-establishment, I suppose, of your independence that can lead to conflict.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Because as I said, boundaries only become a problem or an issue when they're crossed or transgressed, or when you haven't clearly defined them, either for yourself or for the other person that you're in a relationship with.
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: So when you first move in together, when you are navigating and negotiating who does what, who pays for what, how that all works, oftentimes when we have children, we have to renegotiate and reassess and reset our boundaries.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: And of course, if you are navigating your way out of a relationship and still needing to be connected while you're sorting through financial and property settlement, or you're still connected because you've got children together, that is a time when you really need to set some clear boundaries that will look and feel very different to how your boundaries looked and felt when you were still in relationship together.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: And so if you think you might or your boundaries might be a little lax or a bit a little bit leaky or need a bit of um attention, I invite you to ask yourself some questions.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: Ask yourself where are you repressing your thoughts, your feelings, your ideas?
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: Where are you silencing yourself, keeping quiet and not allowing your voice to be heard or even your thoughts to rise up to consciousness?
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: Where are you withholding or holding back?
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: Where are you keeping yourself small?
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Where are you holding yourself back?
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: Or where are you giving away your personal power?
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Where are you?
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: This is a classic, where are you overgiving?
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: Where are you overgiving?
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: In what parts of your life and in what relationships are you overgiving?
- 8:35SPEAKER_00: And where are you, where are you not asking for what you want and what you need?
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: So, really, where in your life do you need stronger boundaries?
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: But to really think about that on a deeper level, as I said, think about where are you repressing, where are you silencing, where are you withholding or holding yourself back, keeping yourself small, where are you giving away your power, where are you overgiving, and where are you not asking for what you want or what you need?
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: And sometimes sometimes we're not even willing to ask ourselves what it is we want or what we need.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: We're not really willing to answer that question for ourselves.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: So it's very difficult to set a boundary when you haven't defined that for yourself.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: So, where in your life do you need firmer boundaries?
- 9:35SPEAKER_00: And a surefire sign that you need to firm up your boundaries, you need stronger boundaries, is feeling taken for granted or feeling resentful.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: So, you know, are you pissed off every morning when you get up and the kitchen is full of dishes that you hoped your teenagers would wash the night before?
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: Firm up that boundary around expectations and chores and shared household tasks.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: Maybe you feel like you're carrying the entire mental load of your relationship.
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: Firm up that boundary around personal responsibility.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: What's yours, what's not yours to carry, whose is it, and how can it be redistributed?
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: Firm up that boundary for yourself.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Boundaries help us be better understood and also better understand the other person in the relationship, be that your kids, your partner, your co-parent.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Your needs are known, your expectations are known, and you know the other person's needs and expectations, and you can both respond.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: What else do boundaries give us?
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: They give us that understanding.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: In a primary sense, as I mentioned earlier, boundaries enable us to feel safe.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Boundaries allow us to keep our body, our time, our energy, our heart, our emotions, our space.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: They allow us to keep all of that safe.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: They allow you to make yourself, your needs, and your desires a priority.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: Boundaries allow you to protect yourself and preserve your emotional energy.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: If your boundaries are clear and held firmly and calmly, you don't then need to spend bucket loads of time and energy enforcing them.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: They're clear, they're obvious, and everybody around you knows what the boundaries are when they're engaging with you.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: Boundaries also help us protect our sense of identity and build self-esteem.
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: If your boundaries are non-existent or they're loosely held, or they're inconsistent, where sometimes they're really firm and tight, and other times they're really loose, and other people repeatedly cross the line because of your unwillingness or inability to speak up and advocate for yourself, resentment builds, and that fractures connection and closeness and fractures relationships.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: So boundaries actually help preserve the health of your relationships, protecting them from becoming unsafe, protecting them from build-up of resentment or being taken for feeling taken for granted.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: So they're not big walls to keep people out.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: That's not what boundaries are.
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: They are gentle, protective fields around you, letting people know what is and is not okay when they engage with you.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: So that's why you can set boundaries without being a bitch.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: Because at their core, your boundaries are simply a way of communicating to others what is and what is not okay for you.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: And there ain't nothing bitchy about that.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: But a changing relationship or even a separation or divorce is a time to reassess your boundaries, and firstly to reassess your boundaries for yourself.
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: You may not even need to communicate them to others, as I said earlier.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: If they're known and respected or they're obvious, or they're not more precisely, if they're not pushed up against or crossed, you don't need to communicate with them.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: But if you do, if you do communicate them, you can do so with grace.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: And here's another interesting thing, it is when boundaries change.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: So when you change your boundaries, anyone who's benefited from your previous boundary, or maybe a boundary that's been a bit lax, anyone who's benefited will feel triggered and is really likely to bump up against or push or challenge or even transgress your boundary in a change back kind of way.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: So if they're used to your boundary being at a certain point and all of a sudden you've tightened it up, they are naturally going to keep bumping up against it because it's it's almost like they meet it sooner.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: So that's when you may need to communicate that hey, this boundary has changed.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: And you don't have to say it like that, but you can communicate kindly, calmly, hey, what was once okay is now no longer okay, and we need to talk about it.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: So if the other person, be that your partner, your ex-partner, or even your kids, if they're used to you letting things slide, say, and now you're raising challenging topics for discussion, they will feel triggered.
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: If you're if they're used to you doing a certain thing in the relationship or for them, and you no longer want to do that, and you communicate that, they may feel you're being mean or unfair, or that you've changed the goalposts.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: And to be fair, while you're not being mean and you're not being unfair, it will feel like it to them because you are kind of changing the rules.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: So it's important to communicate that with the other person to the other person.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: You're stating that some things which have previously been okay aren't any longer okay for you.
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: And I thought here it would be helpful if I share one classic boundary I had to reset in the early days after I'd separated.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: And it was that it was no longer okay for my ex-husband, well not quite ex-husband, but let's call him my ex-husband, my ex-husband to arrive at what was previously our house, but was now my house.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: It was no longer okay for him to arrive unannounced and let himself in the front door.
- 15:58SPEAKER_00: For a long time he still had a key to the house, and I was totally fine with that.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: In fact, he knows where the spare key to my current house is and I know where his is, and it just means we can each access the kids' stuff if we need to when the other parent is not at home.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: It doesn't happen very often, but these days, but it's still there.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I digress.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: So in those early days, and in fact, still now, no, in those early days, it was not okay anymore for him to arrive unannounced and let himself in, even if he did, you know, do the knock-knock, open the door, hello.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: I just felt that I really needed to reset that boundary, and it was a conversation that we needed to have.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: And at first he pushed back and said, But I'm I own half the house, which was true.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: We co-owned that house, and I responded, Yes, you do own half the house, but you don't live here anymore, and we're not in an intimate partnership anymore.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: So you're more like my landlord, and I need you to respect my privacy.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: I need you to call or message me before you arrive, and at the very least, knock and wait for me to answer.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: And I went on to say, you know, if you know I'm not home and you need to access the house, please just message me beforehand as a courtesy.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: You're always welcome to do so if you need to get in and grab stuff for the kids, perfectly fine, but I need that message ahead of time.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: That was a conversation that we had once, and it's a boundary we both respect for the other.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: So once I'd redefined that boundary, we both knew where we stood and we both understood what was expected of us.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: What he understood what I expected of him, and I afforded him the same courtesy with his house.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: So if you're resetting boundaries, you need to communicate it with others.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: And those others might be your partner, your now or soon-to-be ex-partner with your kids and with your extended family.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: Relationship challenges and changes seem to open the open the door for people, family, to pass comment, offer unsolicited advice or judgment, and that's one boundary you might need to explain or firm up if that's happening for you.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: If you're navigating your way out of a relationship, it's really common for people to offer their advice, their unsolicited opinion, um, pass comment judgment, and if that's not feeling okay for you, set a boundary around it.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: Explain calmly and kindly and gently what is and is not okay for others to comment.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: What is what is and is not okay for others to say to you.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: And sorry, how to do it.
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: I thought I'd run you through my five-step process to setting boundaries.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: Step one: identify your rights, your needs, your wants, and your desires.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: Identify what what they are for you, um, what's important to you.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: Basic human needs, sure.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: I have a right to be safe, I have a right to be treated with respect, I have a right to prioritize my own needs, I have a right to make my own decisions, I have a right to say no without guilt.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: I have a right to choose not to meet the expectations or demands of others, especially if they're unreasonable, unrealistic, or not aligned with my core values.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: And I guess you need to know what your core values are to know that those expectations are not aligned.
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: Um, what else?
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: I have a right to keep my thoughts and feelings and ideas to myself if I choose to.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: I have a right to privacy, I have a right to ask of you.
- 20:01SPEAKER_00: So I have a right to ask for what I need from you.
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: Whatever yours are, identify them and write them down.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: Your rights, your needs, your wants, your desires, and probably underlying your core values.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: Step number two, trust your intuition.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: Listen to your gut feeling and trust your intuition.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: Listen to your body because your body, your gut, your intuition will tell you when your boundaries are being violated, or when you need to set a new or stronger or firmer boundary.
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: Your body is a really powerful tool in helping you honor your boundaries.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: It will tell you when a boundary has been or is about to be crossed.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Your heart might race, your breathing rate increases, you might break out in a sweat, you might clench your fists, dig your fingernails into your, you know, into your palm, the palms of your hands or clench your teeth, whatever it is, your body will tell you.
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: So listen to your body, trust your gut feeling, and trust your intuition.
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: Number three is be assertive.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: Assertively set boundaries, feel firm and kind and fair.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: They feel all of those things.
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: They feel firm, yes, but they also feel fair and they feel kind, even if there is a bit of that pushback initially.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: So express your thoughts and your feelings and your opinions and your needs without guilt or worrying what the other person thinks.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: Sure, take into consideration their needs and their feelings, but put aside any need to okay your needs or your boundaries by them.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: You aren't seeking validation here, you're not seeking confirmation that someone else thinks that your boundary is okay.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Are acceptable.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: You're simply stating what they are and holding on to your right to have them and to express them or communicate them.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: So try when you're communicating them, try to use I statements and language that's really clear and non-negotiable without getting too waffly, yes, guilty here, um, and without without blaming or shaming or judging.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: Just keep it really clear as a clear, non-negotiable, unfrilly language.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: I feel X when Y happens, what I need is Z.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: I feel X when Y happens and what I need is Z.
- 22:42SPEAKER_00: Remember, setting a boundary is just giving the other person information about yourself.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: It is not being mean, it is not being a bitch, it is communicating information about you and how you want to show up and be treated in relationship with another.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: Step four is know when to put yourself first and learn to say no.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: It's a combo.
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: Know when to put yourself first.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: Healthy relationships do not require us to forgo ourselves or abandon ourselves.
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: They don't require that we give all the time and that we put our wants, our needs, our desires last on the list every single time.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: Healthy relationships ask of us that there be balance.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: Healthy relationships are reciprocal.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: There is give and take and there is compromise, but compromise to a yes, yes, compromise to win a bit, win a bit, rather than a you win, I lose, or vice versa.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: So know when to put yourself first and learn to say no.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: Get comfortable, learn how to be comfortable saying no.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: Because if you're tuning into your gut, if you're tuning into your body, if you're listening to your intuition, there's gonna come a time when you need to say no.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: And we all hold beliefs or tell ourselves the BS stories about what it means to say no.
- 24:10SPEAKER_00: If I say no, I'm being selfish or I'm ungrateful, I'm only thinking about myself, I'm being mean.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: If I say no, my partner, my co-parent, my ex, my kids, whoever it is, they'll be upset.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: If I say no, they won't like me, they won't love me, they'll be mad at me.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: If I say no, I risk rejection.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: And that's probably not exactly what you say to yourself, but that's what the underlying story we often tell ourselves.
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: And the other story we tell ourselves is if I say yes when I really want to say no, it will avoid an argument.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: And this often leads, eventually, to us feeling resentful, stressed, frustrated, underappreciated, taken for granted, bitter, angry, all the things.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: So telling yourself you're saying yes when you really want to say no to avoid conflict is actually counterintuitive.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: And that's simply because our boundary has been crossed.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: So identify what your stories around saying no are and how you can let go of them.
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: Saying no calmly and graciously is key.
- 25:28SPEAKER_00: No can be a complete sentence.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: You can add a thank you if you like, no thanks.
- 25:34SPEAKER_00: But there's not always a need for you to offer an explanation.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: You can counter-offer, you can say, no, I can't do that, but I can do this, and keep your yeses to the things that are most important to you.
- 25:49SPEAKER_00: Keep your yeses to the things that are wholly and fully aligned with you, your values, your desires, your soul.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: Keep your yeses to those things we talked about in step number one.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: Saying no to things that don't feel right is holding your boundary around your time, your energy, and your emotions.
- 26:13SPEAKER_00: So learn to say no.
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: I promise you, if you feel resentment, if you feel like you're being taken for granted, learning to calmly say no without attaching the BS story underneath it will be a game changer.
- 26:32SPEAKER_00: And step number five is get support.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: Setting new boundaries, particularly in a shifting or changing relationship during and even after divorce, can be especially challenging.
- 26:47SPEAKER_00: So whether it's in your current relationship or a rearrangement of your family, your partner, your ex-partner, your kids, they expect you to be the same as you always were.
- 26:57SPEAKER_00: And so shifting boundaries can feel a little wobbly for everyone.
- 27:02SPEAKER_00: Being open in discussing the changes can help.
- 27:05SPEAKER_00: So talk with your kids, talk with your partner, talk with your co-parent or your ex about the ways your boundaries are shifting.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: As I had to communicate about the house and the key, communicate with the others in your relationship, in your family, about how these boundaries are changing.
- 27:23SPEAKER_00: Gather your support.
- 27:26SPEAKER_00: Gather friends around you who can support you as you shift and change these boundaries, and also reach out for professional support if you need.
- 27:35SPEAKER_00: Be that your GP, your psychologist, a counsellor, or a coach.
- 27:41SPEAKER_00: Counseling and coaching can support you to define your boundaries.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: So way back step one, define your boundaries and then hold them as sacred.
- 27:51SPEAKER_00: To learn to love yourself enough to risk disappointing or challenging others.
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: To learn to love yourself enough to risk disappointing or challenging others.
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: And finally, a little thought to end with the only person who is responsible for putting your needs first, for setting your boundaries is you.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: You're totally in control of this.
- 28:26SPEAKER_00: You've got this.
- 28:27SPEAKER_00: And of course, if coaching is something that you are interested in exploring further, I will drop a link in the show notes so you can book an intro call with me and we can chat about that.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: And I would love to help you firm up your boundaries, release yourself from resentment or feeling taken for granted, and liberate yourself.
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for sharing this time and space with me.
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: I know there are so many things that you could be doing with your time, and I'm so grateful that you're choosing to share time with me.
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: I'm Sally Ann Hartnell, Relationship Coach, and you've been listening to Reflect, Reclaim and Liberate.
- 29:11SPEAKER_00: You can follow me on Instagram at Reflect Coaching, and if you can think of anyone who would love this episode, please, please share it with them.
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- 29:31SPEAKER_00: I hope you'll join me next time for another episode of Reflect, Reclaim and Liberate.
- 29:37SPEAKER_00: Until then.