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Blazers & Bandanas · No One Gets Hurt

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SPEAKER_03: I listen up and no one gets hurt.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Today we have with us a heavy hitter from the East Coast who's made his way to the West Coast.
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SPEAKER_02: It's Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Jamie Acevedo.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, how's everybody doing?
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SPEAKER_01: Very nice to be here.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: We appreciate you coming out, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thanks, man.
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SPEAKER_02: What what's your handle?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I am at Jamie Acevedo Comedy, J A M I E A C E V E D O.
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SPEAKER_01: You gotta put the comedy in there because there's another Jamie Acevedo, my dad, and he won't give me the handle, so it's gotta be comedy.
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SPEAKER_03: That's fucked up.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you know, he needs it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and if you can't tell, he's from the East Coast.
1:07
SPEAKER_02: Where exactly are you from?
1:08
SPEAKER_01: I am from Long Island.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: So I am from I I tell people I'm from New York, but I'm from Long Island.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: And that is a distinction.
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SPEAKER_01: I guess it would kind of be like telling people you're from LA, but being from Orange County, it's kind of like a that type of thing a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: I find when I tell people I'm from Orange County, it's like, oh, Disneyland?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the beach?
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's like that's the only places that they know.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, don't forget the show was popular for a while, but that started to fade out of the cultural consciousness.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: But there was the OC for a while.
1:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:36
SPEAKER_01: And then there was the Laguna Beach show.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Laguna Beach.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: The thing I've learned about people who have never been to California, they think the entirety of California is like the sunset fucking strip.
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SPEAKER_03: Like they think it's all Hollywood.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: If not, people don't even know there's mountains here.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: That tripped me out the first time I got here.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: I did not expect that because I've been to places with mountains, but the mountains are like over there.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, you're like you're standing here, you see the mountains over there, but here a mountain is like a part of the thing.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: There's like a house on the mountain.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a little bit different, so it's a little bit unique.
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SPEAKER_02: Like hills.
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SPEAKER_01: Hills, yes.
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SPEAKER_02: There's hills and then there's mountains.
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SPEAKER_02: That's true.
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SPEAKER_02: Right, because there's the Hollywood Hills and um I think Bel Air is kind of a hill-ish.
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SPEAKER_03: Burbank, where I think Beverly Hills.
2:23
SPEAKER_03: I had no idea like the terrain, or I guess, or you know, whatever when I first moved here.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: I had no idea what to expect.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Me neither.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you this.
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SPEAKER_01: I uh I had no idea what I moved here on a wing and a prayer, not knowing anything.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been to San Bernardino a couple times.
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SPEAKER_01: I thought that's basically LA.
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SPEAKER_01: So I knew it's greater LA.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I knew I wanted to like get involved in the LA comedy scene, so I just went on like Google Maps to look for like apartments that I could afford.
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SPEAKER_01: And I found one in Orange County.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So when I first moved here, I moved to Orange County and I just put into uh you know Google Maps, like how far is that from Santa Monica?
3:05
SPEAKER_01: And I was doing it, you know, over there at nighttime.
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SPEAKER_01: So as the crow flies, it said like 40 minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I could do that.
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SPEAKER_01: I take an hour, you know, train into the into the city here in New York.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: I got out here first day I was going out there, it took me two and a half hours.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: I said, What the hell?
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SPEAKER_01: What the hell is welcome?
3:24
SPEAKER_01: That was your West Coast welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: It rained, so I it was like that nonsense where I was like, oh my god, an extra hour for rain.
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SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the crow doesn't fly straight here, that's for sure.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: The crow stuck in traffic.
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SPEAKER_02: The crow is stuck in traffic and it's going zig and zag and it doesn't fly straight here.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it's crazy because um, yeah, and also depending on where you live, like uh, you know, it's considered long distance.
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SPEAKER_02: I think if you live on the west side and you're dating somebody, you know, in Burbank.
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SPEAKER_01: My friend was dating somebody in Claremont and they broke up like over that.
4:01
SPEAKER_01: They call that a long distance relationship.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's hard.
4:05
SPEAKER_02: That's a hard thing.
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SPEAKER_01: So you gotta do what you gotta do.
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SPEAKER_01: I uh I I worked in Santa Monica and lived in Orange County for a year.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: What do you do?
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh I work in human resources.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: How cool is that?
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SPEAKER_02: He resources humans.
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SPEAKER_03: They would never in a million years let me be HR.
4:28
SPEAKER_03: I would be fired the first day.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh you could do like interviews, you can interview people.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, what's up?
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SPEAKER_01: Are you cool?
4:34
SPEAKER_03: I fucking hate doing it.
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SPEAKER_03: I've done interviews.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've been a manager at a warehouse and fucking fuck that.
4:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I've interviewed people and it's interesting because um I realized after the first person I had hired that there was a job interview question that I because I work as a lawyer.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh there was a question I was like, you know, I wish I would have asked because when we were talking later on in this person's career, I was like, Well, did you ever like tell me about your first job?
5:06
SPEAKER_02: Like the person was already hired, right?
5:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, tell me about your first job.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was like, Well, like, what did you do?
5:11
SPEAKER_02: And he was like, Did you have an internship?
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SPEAKER_02: He's like, This was his first job.
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SPEAKER_02: So it really told me a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Not that I'm saying you should discriminate or whatever, but like I'm saying, if for as far as like you didn't have a job before, whatever, but it gives perspective because uh I had worked for uh for a like a public utilities, and when I was going through the interview process, they told me that they thought that one of my best uh items on my resume was that I worked at Nordstrom because it's public service.
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SPEAKER_02: And so, like not public server, but you're working for the not public server, sorry, but but you're working with the public.
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SPEAKER_02: And so having to work with the public, and this is someone who went to Columbia Law School, and they were like, he said his best experience was working at Karo's or sparrows or whatever, like a uh like one of those like cheap, like norms, like a like a diner that that sells steak.
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SPEAKER_02: He's like, Because every time a customer would be like, Well, this steak's well done, he's like, Yeah, they all are.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you expect?
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SPEAKER_02: It's$9.99.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, but like yeah, but you're having to learn how to talk to a customer, you're having to like problem solve, you're um, you know, being accommodating, and you're moving on.
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SPEAKER_02: And so in my line of work, like you're dealing with, I'm dealing with a judge, I'm I'm dealing with opposing counsel, I'm dealing with a client.
6:24
SPEAKER_02: And so it's like you're also you're always trying to like explain like your position, you're trying to like be reasonable with the person, explaining to them why this is what it is.
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SPEAKER_02: It's all it's in a sense, it's kind of like sales, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, in a sense, it's like, you know, you're you're trying to problem solve.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: So so having that kind of a life skill is very actually beneficial.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: So in our transferable skills are real, yeah.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: They should make us all like you know how the Israelis make you do like one year in the military?
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SPEAKER_01: They should all make us work in like the worst restaurant as a server one year just to become decent human beings, and then you can go and do something else.
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SPEAKER_02: I I don't think that's a bad idea, actually.
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SPEAKER_03: Have you seen the restaurants where like the waiters and the waitresses are like super disrespectful?
7:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, people pay for that.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's one in Vegas that does like that.
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SPEAKER_03: That would be a perfect job for me.
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SPEAKER_02: Like oh, like as a shtick.
7:15
SPEAKER_02: I thought you I thought you meant like just in general.
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SPEAKER_01: I wish we could find this place.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's in Vegas or uh or New Orleans or like one of those places that tourists, but that's their whole thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And people come in, they're like, oh, they roast them, yeah, and and it's like intentionally bad service.
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SPEAKER_01: But I always wondered like that's a fine line.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I I bet you it goes too far.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, I'm sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes a little bit, you know.
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SPEAKER_03: They're literally like, welcome to such and such.
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SPEAKER_03: What the fuck do you want?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh I've seen one where the dude was ordering on the kids' menu and she was flaming and like, okay, what are you broke like?
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SPEAKER_01: I was at a comedy club in New York before I moved here, and they wanted the comics.
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SPEAKER_01: They wanted the comics to be available to roast the audience per request after the show.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: So they like advertised this was their thing.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Like you could go up after the show and say, Oh, I like that guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll pay to have him ro roast me for like 25 minutes.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: What?
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SPEAKER_03: I'm on the wrong coast.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it was interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: It was cool, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, you've been hosting um there was a Bourbon comedy festival, right?
8:30
SPEAKER_01: There's Burbank Comedy Festivals going on this week.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh so I got an opportunity to do that.
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SPEAKER_01: And then San Gabriel Comedy Festival, which is a new one, is next week.
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SPEAKER_01: So shout out to both of both of those guys.
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SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And then you host a show once a month or something like that at Flappers.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: So at Flappers I host the Uncle Clyde's comedy competition once a month.
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SPEAKER_01: And I've been doing that for the last two years.
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SPEAKER_01: So I host every Wednesday at at Flappers, and that's usually the Uncle Clyde's comedy contest, which is a really cool opportunity to meet people.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: I knew I'd seen you before.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: I've seen you at that, Tony.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: So uh everybody comes through that at some point.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, they they get they they do their their five minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's how I've really met everybody since I got out here.
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SPEAKER_01: So it was a cool opportunity to connect with people.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: And then I produce a show there once a month that I've workshopped many names for, and uh I've landed on now Live from Burbank is the is the show name.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, I just got to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, killed it.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: I would say you just got to kill it.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: It was an excellent room, it was an excellent lineup, it was a fun, fun group of people.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your set was was very well received.
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SPEAKER_01: My wife was there, she said you were funny.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: So that's awesome.
9:43
SPEAKER_02: I paid her well, so um, but I do have a question.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: You how recent wait, hold on, James?
9:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's new.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh I should be able to cut that out though.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not coming through the mic.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you can you hear Jamie okay?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, you guys sound good.
10:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's barely coming through the mic, but I'll be able to I'll be able to cut it out.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a blend, I assume.
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SPEAKER_01: That's that's a new one.
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SPEAKER_02: Where is it coming from?
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SPEAKER_01: Above me.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's the AC unit above us, and it's something going on.
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SPEAKER_03: I thought you were in there making margaritas.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: Grinding coffee beans or something.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I just want to make sure, like, okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I I can I can avo I don't have to be distracted by it, but I'm just like thinking more like, oh shit, in the post post-production, I'm like, oh no.
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SPEAKER_02: If it's too distracting, we can hold it until it doesn't sound like it's going away, so I think let's just be fine.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you guys will be good.
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unknown: I'll cut it out for you.
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SPEAKER_02: Cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so back.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, so how recently was the last time you were on the East Coast?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I go back pretty frequently.
11:00
SPEAKER_01: So I probably was back there uh in January.
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SPEAKER_01: I I didn't get an opportunity to be out there for all the hype of the Knicks winning the the championship.
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SPEAKER_01: I would have loved to be be over there, but I I I haven't gotten to do mom donnie jokes.
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SPEAKER_01: I haven't gotten a chance to do Knicks jokes.
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SPEAKER_01: It's been a minute, but I was there in in January.
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SPEAKER_02: So And have you always been known as Jamie Acevedo or do you have any AKA's?
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SPEAKER_01: That's a very good question.
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SPEAKER_01: So I am Jamie Acevedo, and I thought about doing a uh stage name when I first started uh to kind of like hide my stand-up from my job a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh I'd like to, if I do make it, I'd like to make it as that, because my dad is also Jamie Acevedo, as I mentioned.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: But my dad is is Jamie Acevedo, but he was originally Jaime Acevedo.
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SPEAKER_01: So he's from Puerto Rico, he was born there, and he's one of these people who came and then they whited up his name and changed him to Jamie Acevedo.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's really because you're not spelled Jaime, you're spelled Jamie.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't feel like there's a there's a consistency on those name spellings.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel like J-A-I is a Jaime.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: That's more often, yeah, but but I've seen people spell it with J-A-I-M-E, and I've seen a Y in there at times, J-A-Y-M-E.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh I changed my son's name up.
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SPEAKER_01: So I have a son now, and I was gonna name him Jamie because my grandfather's name's Jamie, my name's Jamie, my dad's name, and my wife was like, that's too that's too much.
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SPEAKER_01: So he's so he's Jameson.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, Jameson, and I love to tell people Jameson, like the liquor.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and my wife says, Don't say that anymore.
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unknown: She doesn't like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, my I have a cousin named Jamie, but she spelled J-A-M-I-E.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:40
SPEAKER_02: And so she and I remember as a kid, like I spelled J A I.
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SPEAKER_02: She's like, I'm not Jaime, I'm Jamie.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's uh how I remember the you know.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Let me take you through all the kid teasings.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a great name, but here's all the kid teasings.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, Jamie, that's a girl's name.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh Jaime sounds like Jaine.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh uh Yeah, those are the two.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, there was a lot of Jamie.
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SPEAKER_01: Isn't that a girl's name?
13:07
SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Jokes on guy.
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SPEAKER_02: Jokes on them now, so because you're killing it, so oh yeah.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: I think I I won.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: I I told this revenge joke on a podcast, and uh I got uh the long con worked for me.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, the reason I asked is this is kind of awkward.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay, but just went I Oh, you want to summons me?
13:33
SPEAKER_01: I have an exhibit here.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: You're under arrest.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: And it and I just feel like Oh no, it says exhibit A.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: I just feel like you might be on the run from something.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no, what is that picture?
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SPEAKER_02: Is this is this you?
13:48
SPEAKER_01: Who said that?
13:51
SPEAKER_01: I've been getting that picture from everybody this week.
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SPEAKER_01: Who is that?
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SPEAKER_02: Who can you do me a favor and just do a side-by-side?
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SPEAKER_03: I have to say it up and but you gotta look disgruntled.
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SPEAKER_00: Who is this?
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody has been texting me that you can do this week.
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SPEAKER_02: Who is he?
14:19
SPEAKER_02: This is Agostino Abateo.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm probably saying the last name wrong, but he is what I would call a king pen.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: A pen state.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: This is what we're gonna talk about today.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: He does look like me.
14:35
SPEAKER_01: He looks, I gotta say, he actually looks a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: He's uncanny, bro.
14:38
SPEAKER_03: He looks a little bit better than me, but that but I like his hair, but he looks like he's got a little more money than you for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: He does.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: He's a little slimmer, he looks a little younger, but well, he is.
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SPEAKER_01: He's 24.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's 24.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: How old are you?
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SPEAKER_01: 41.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's Augustino Abate Abateo, Abateo.
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SPEAKER_02: Abatello.
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SPEAKER_01: Tapatillo.
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SPEAKER_02: Abatello?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: So he's Latino too.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Or maybe Italian.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: Augustino Abatello.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that could be any of the Abatello?
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SPEAKER_01: Portuguese, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: He's definitely from New York.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So this gentleman was a member of, I believe, the Delta Upsilon fraternity at Penn State.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, quick shout out that this is an ongoing investigation.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: These charges are only charges.
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone here is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: So these are all alleged stories at this point in time.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna judge the judgment immediately, but thank you for getting saying that disclaimer.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: What did he do?
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all alleged, no convictions yet.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: So so basically, this involves Penn State.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: Did you go to college?
15:49
SPEAKER_01: I went to Arizona State.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: The Penn State of the Southwest.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: Were you in a fraternity there?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I was in a sorority.
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SPEAKER_02: But they're very different.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you look cool.
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SPEAKER_01: I wasn't I wasn't a sorority type.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: But if he could get into the city, you're not a girl.
16:04
SPEAKER_01: If you could get into a fraternity, I could get into a fraternity.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, you have to be a girl to be in a sorority.
16:10
SPEAKER_02: Boys are fraternities.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
16:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, details, you know what I mean.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, so oh sorry, he was in Sigma Chai.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: My bad.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: Sigma Chai.
16:19
SPEAKER_02: So these involve two different fraternities at Penn State.
16:22
SPEAKER_02: There's alleged 14 different people involved here, but Augustino is a number one.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh, he's alleged to have been the main distributor of cocaine amongst Penn State.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: That guy.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: That guy.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, uh, more positive news for Penn State.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: They're always in the news for good stuff.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, I was gonna say um they haven't seen this strong of a line since Sandusky.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: I know.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: That's the last time that's a very good joke.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: That's top tier.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: You should write that down.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: I did.
16:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh keep that.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: So this guy is like a kingpin.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: This is a Netflix show in the main.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's 100%.
17:03
SPEAKER_02: And a kingpin spelled P-E-N-N, right?
17:06
SPEAKER_02: Instead of P-I-N.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: Because Penn's date.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: You're killing it.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the puns just they write it themselves.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: You're killing it.
17:13
SPEAKER_03: They said he's 24?
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Damn, I wish it wouldn't have said my age because I could have played him when they made the rich kids always have the best drugs, dude.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: I assume they must be rich because the amount of money that these kids were dumping into this, it seems insane.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: But this takes place in like 2022 to 2024.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: And so they just they've been investigating it this whole time, and they just made the arrests like recently.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: Now, one of the things that I find funny is that um, among a lot of things, so I believe that Thomas Robinson, who was in Delta Epsilon, uh, so Delta Epsilon is actually recognized by Penn State, whereas Del whereas uh Sigma Chi is not recognized because they've probably already been kicked off of campus, right?
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Because of this type of thing.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Because of other things.
18:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure, I'm sure there's allegations of other things, too.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, they're an animal house type situation.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
18:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, but what's interesting is my understanding is when Thomas Robinson was being arrested, he was resisting arrest.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Why would you arrest uh um resist arrest, would you think?
18:21
SPEAKER_02: Like if someone came in to your bedroom and said, you know, you're under arrest, like and like what would you be thinking as a 24-year-old uh, you know, recent college grad?
18:32
SPEAKER_03: Who knows you sell drugs?
18:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Like you're the you're you know you sell drugs.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: You know you sell drugs, and they're in your room?
18:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that they're in your room, but you're you graduate from college, you're a frat guy, you got your frat bros, like, and somebody, you know, police officer comes into your room.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, what are your what are your thoughts?
18:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm out of there.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay, what are your thoughts?
18:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh I would probably just uh wet myself and cry, but if we're wondering why you he resisted her ass, was there girls present that maybe he was trying to show off in front of that looked like a tough one?
19:05
SPEAKER_01: That's a good thought.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, I didn't consider that well neither you guys didn't hit on what it was.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: He thought he was being pranked by his frat brows.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, so he thought this is all like an elaborate, like, gotcha, ha ha.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: But they got his ass.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so he got um he got arrested.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: So basically, my understanding is um Augustina was the top supplier, Thomas Robinson was the co-supplier, and there are 14 people who have been charged.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: 13 are current or former Penn State students, and then the one the one who's not a current or former Penn State student is Thomas Robinson's father.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: Really?
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he's allegedly like a managing partner of a law firm in Pittsburgh, and allegedly uh when he found out his son was getting in trouble, he got rid of a safe or something to that effect.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you know?
19:58
SPEAKER_02: I just have to have some evidence in it.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: So that's not a good lot.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: You can't get rid of evidence.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: You cannot.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: I will.
20:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, they're I'd take a murder charge.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: What would you do to get rid of evidence?
20:12
SPEAKER_01: What's the best way to hide it?
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Burn it?
20:15
SPEAKER_03: If it's like paperwork and burn it, obviously.
20:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: It depends on what the evidence is.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: So some of the other people are um there's sort of Augustino, there's Thomas Robinson, Mohammed Harabi, Lars Gang this is.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: I like that.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: It is Lars Zephat and Robert Zanola.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, and my understanding is that Harabi was getting uh his drug supply from uh Augustino and then selling it to like fraternity brothers or maybe like other f friends of friends at Penn State.
20:52
SPEAKER_02: Harabi is comes up to Thomas Robinson, and these are all my understandings is that he comes up to Mr.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: Robinson and he's like, you know what?
21:00
SPEAKER_02: Like we want to go into business together, and he's like, Yeah.
21:02
SPEAKER_02: So then they come up with like something like I want to say eighteen thousand dollars to buy basically a pound.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm really bad at the grams, so a kilo.
21:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, they call they about the price for a kilo.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: I think it was like I think they said a thousand grams.
21:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a kilo.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, duh.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but yeah, so a thousand grams or whatever of cocaine, and then um and then they were selling it, but you know, they're they're frat brothers, right?
21:26
SPEAKER_02: So what what do you know about fraternities?
21:29
SPEAKER_02: Do you know much?
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh pledging, drinking, the hitting each other on the butt with the paddle is something, I think.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: Hazing.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: Hazing, yeah.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
21:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I quit high school.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
21:43
SPEAKER_02: So, like in a fraternity, some of the things that they might, you know, say for you to consider joining is like, you know, it's brotherhood, personal and professional development, accountability, leadership skills.
21:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh I've had gang members tell me the same thing.
22:01
SPEAKER_03: It pretty much is.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: It's pretty much the same thing, just with blazers.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
22:06
SPEAKER_03: Instead of bandanas.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: I think we have to take the thumbnail title for this.
22:11
SPEAKER_03: Write that down.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Blazers and bandanas.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: So um it's a way to do community service.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: You're a part of something bigger, uh, social skills and you know, college involvement, which in some respects, that's what this was.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Because apparently Augustino at Sigma Kai and Thomas Robinson at Delta Epsilon would take the drugs and bring it back to their brothers and their pledges and make them cut it up and put them in baggies so that they could sell it.
22:44
SPEAKER_03: That's fun.
22:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: That's nice.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: That's how drug distribution works.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: Um what do you think maybe separates these college kids from your, you know, street gangs?
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Like how do you think that they marketed these things or how they sold it?
23:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh so they're college kids.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, does anybody have any expertise in this area?
23:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I know, so I'm I'm asking you guys.
23:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh I mean I I don't want to use the term sophistication.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: Um, but it's somewhere along that level, I think.
23:24
SPEAKER_03: It's like uh what's the word I'm looking for?
23:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh demographic, I guess.
23:33
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
23:34
SPEAKER_03: It's just a different kind of demographic, uh different kind of lifestyle.
23:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, i it's interesting that you say sophistication because I believe the attorney general uses that term.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: It's a sophisticated drug ring, basically.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but they were using things like Snapchat, Venmo, PayPal, like to in order to do that.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they were a tech savvy, sophisticated.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: But that's also problematic because that's gonna make it really hard for their defense attorney to explain away.
24:04
SPEAKER_02: Very, very traceable eighteen thousand dollars, twenty-two thousand dollars.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: People think Snapchats disappear.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: They don't disappear.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: They go into a database.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so those penises are still there.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they are now.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: Augustino graduated, and I believe he graduated with an accounting degree, which kind of actually tracks, you know what I mean?
24:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know what Thomas Robinson's status is, but you know, I started thinking about it.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you know, Augustino is still involved in the and he was taking drugs from New York and taking them into Penn State.
24:35
SPEAKER_02: So I thought maybe it would rise to the level of a federal situation, but it's still a state charge right now.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: So they did not well why?
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Isn't he taking it across the line?
24:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: So technically he could be cons it could be considered for federal, but it's right now the state is taking it.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: So they so they broke state laws too, right?
24:56
SPEAKER_02: And the state has decided they're going to take this case.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh maybe if they investigate it further and there's more egregious acts, uh, like bigger amounts.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, because really I don't think that it, I mean, 20,000, 18,000, 50,000, these are very big numbers, but these aren't like hundred thousand transactions.
25:15
SPEAKER_02: So I think maybe if it was more money, maybe small potatoes, small potatoes, yeah.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in the grand scheme of like drug dealing, a kilo is a drop in the bucket.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: I think what's making this uh case so notoriety is just that face and how nerdy it is.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: If it wasn't that face there, yep, and the fact that it's Penn State, it's like a uh fucking well-to-do college and they're fucking behaved college kids, but they're fucking slinging a kilo of coke, they're just makes it more interesting.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people like to see that like juxtaposition.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: So you see that nerdy face you hear about this sophisticated coke operation, people are like, oh, that's kind of interesting.
25:55
SPEAKER_03: You see somebody in like a fucking uh hood or like a barrio or something, and they sling a fucking key of coke, nobody takes a second.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: Nobody takes a second, but then if that guy's uh teaching law at Penn State, then that now you have a reverse uh kind of contradiction there.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: One of the other things that was interesting was I guess um he would loan money to people too.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: So one of the one of the fraternity brothers wanted a thousand dollars to go to spring break.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: So he loaned him a thousand dollars, and then what do you know?
26:21
SPEAKER_02: His fraternity brother couldn't pay him back.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: So allegedly he was like, Well, the way you can pay it back is by running drugs for me.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: So reasonable, yeah.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: So he he was yeah, I think he was running a pretty decent scheme there.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: Pretty decent scheme.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say, where does this go?
26:37
SPEAKER_01: Because I don't know if this kid can enforce the collection of that.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: What is he gonna do?
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, it's America.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he had a well if that if you tell me, Tony, if that kid showed up at your door and said, I'm gonna break.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna break your kneecaps.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Face the camera, face the camera.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna break your kneecaps if you don't pay me back my$1,000.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: But remember, it's America.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: He's probably got a handgun.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: Are you gonna buy a kilo of cocoa?
27:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I have a handgun.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna break your kneecaps if you don't pay me back one thousand dollars.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: I'll punch him in the face.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: I think it's not uh yeah, collection is is where he needs to work on in his in his routine.
27:20
SPEAKER_03: I will hit a man with glasses.
27:23
SPEAKER_03: I wear them too.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: But then I was thinking, you know, like let's say, like, even if he doesn't be at the charges, I kind of feel like this is he's kind of created his own MBA program in a sense, you know what I mean?
27:34
SPEAKER_02: It's like with a with a side interest or like a minor, if you will, in chemistry.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Because I mean, he's doing accounting, he's doing finance, he's doing uh a supply chain, right?
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Do we know if he was doing the blow?
27:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know about that, but yeah, so supply chain, marketing, sales, networking.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, transferable skills for sure.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Statistics, chemistry.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: Is that his mugshot?
28:00
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't believe so.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: It sure looks like it.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: I uh that's just no, that's his uh that's his uh that's his uh LinkedIn profile.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: I think I don't know.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Originally, I guess he did not turn himself in when he was supposed to, but then the following day he did.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if that's from that, but yeah.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: I uh I have to ask this.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: Now, did you stumble upon the resemblance on happenstance?
28:28
SPEAKER_02: So I like to think of it this way.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: I try to find stories that fit the guest, right?
28:36
SPEAKER_03: Right, I know that.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: And so I'm not gonna lie, I was having a little bit of trouble.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I'm not sure.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: And then this happened, and I was like, holy shit, this is insane.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: New Yorker, they you don't look, I mean, I don't think you look like him, but you look enough like him.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: It could be uh in the same family, yeah, for sure, for sure.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, there's enough resemblance, but there's something for sure your high school graduation photo, and you can't change my mind.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: College, college.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: This guy's 24.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: He looks young, yeah.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: He looks very young.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so but yeah, that's a good story.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: You know what I was thinking about was like you said, like uh he could have his own NBA program.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: I see his trajectory as like, you know how Shane Gillis got fired from SNL and then they invited him back to host.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get arrested, and then they're gonna invite him back to be like the professor of economics at the high school.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean he kind of is doing it, you know.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so they say he he regularly traveled between Philadelphia and New York to obtain large quantities of cocaine, him and Robinson.
29:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh between where you said Philadelphia.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: Philadelphia, uh-huh.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: And the dad is a 59-year-old Pittsburgh attorney, managing partner.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh, yeah, he after his son was arrested, he took steps to conceal evidence, including a safe containing drugs and cash.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: He is charged with felony tampering of evidence and hindering apprehension, obstruction of investigation.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: His his lawyer says he didn't know what was in the safe and didn't know his son was involved in drug trafficking.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: And when he came to help clean out his belongings, um, he just did it while because Thomas was being expelled.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: So that's why he cleaned it out.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: Just you know, standard.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: What I mean, you're like, wait, my son has$20,000 in just cash and coke.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm pretty sure my mom would be freaking out if she saw even$10,000, like$4,000 in cash.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: My mom would be like, what are you doing?
30:29
SPEAKER_02: As a 24-year-old or a 23-year-old, like, would be freaking out.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Even today, if I had that kind of cash just sitting around, my mom would be like, What are you thinking?
30:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's not a smart thing.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, how did he get caught?
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what we call CIs.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what a CI is?
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Good job, yes.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: The snitches.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, somebody got caught and then moved up the chain.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: So, my understanding is that I believe somebody got caught in around 2024.
30:58
SPEAKER_03: One of the lower dealers.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: That's my understanding.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know which one, it's all confidential, but um, they allegedly uh you know, in provided information.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: They did the testing on the drugs to confirm that it was actually cocaine, and then they actually did a controlled buy with the confidential informant, and and he was actually selling cocaine up through February of 2026.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, allegedly.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so he's the kingpin.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: There's nobody for him to flip on now.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: It's just he's the big dog, yeah.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: So but and apparently he was asking people because he knew people were getting arrested, and he was like asking them, please don't turn me in, please don't turn me in.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: But I'm thinking, like, you're you're the big guy.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: You're yeah, you're gonna get somebody's gonna roll.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this doesn't seem like a ring that has a real code of silence.
31:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh no, no, not at all.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: They don't seem very gangster about it.
31:48
SPEAKER_03: Not a lot of omerta going on in this not in the slightest.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: They probably all flipped immediately.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they did, bro.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not there's not an actual total yet that's been released as far as how much they believe that was completely done in sales, and but it's you know, tens of thousands of dollars at least.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: And then it's funny because um, I don't know if it was a police officer or if it's an attorney general ever, but they're like, and for those parents out there that are wondering about their kids at Penn State, just know that this sort of thing happens all over.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, that's reassuring.
32:23
SPEAKER_02: Like I think this happens in every city, in every state in America.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: It's like, well, I mean, it's true, but this is perfectly normal.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so yeah, but um I think that uh let me see, because I wanted to say what kind of um yeah, they're they're being arraigned, uh, held without bail.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: And then we don't know about what they're looking at in terms of like sentences because they're just it's still so in the Well do you think he's gonna get slapped on the wrist because of his age and respectability?
32:53
SPEAKER_02: Or do you think he's gonna get it's a complicated thought process because my first thought is like they want to make an they want to make an example out of him, right?
33:03
SPEAKER_02: They don't want this sort of thing to happen again, right?
33:06
SPEAKER_02: And um the governor most likely, I think, is probably gonna run for president.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: That's my guess.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: And so he probably wants to look like he's tough on crime, um, especially like you know, kids that maybe are more affluent, not you know, the lower income kids, like I, you know, take it seriously among anybody.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: And um, so I could kind of see it going there, but I could also see he's probably never been in trouble with the law before, you know what I mean?
33:35
SPEAKER_04: And as long as no one got hurt, um the name of our podcast.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I mean, I think it'd be a situation where they probably will it might maybe like a six-year situation, maybe uh down to like maybe he serves two to three years, and then um probably community service.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: I definitely think there will be a Netflix series.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: I definitely think there'll be like a a you know documentary on it.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: I believe there's gonna be multiple things going on.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: So what about the dad?
34:04
SPEAKER_01: You think the dad's in trouble?
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh the dad's gonna get dad's gonna get disbarred.
34:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I can almost guarantee he will get disbarred.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, okay, how about this?
34:13
SPEAKER_02: If he's found guilty, because right now he is believed, you know, you're innocent until you're proven guilty, but um, I think if he's proven guilty, he will be disbarred.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: Destroying evidence is like a big deal.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: Especially if you're a lawyer, you should not like knowingly destroying evidence.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: Knowingly intended to destroy the evidence that I think he's gonna be in some serious, he's he's gonna be disbarred.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he'll do time per se.
34:38
SPEAKER_02: 59 probably spotless record.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: So probably maybe a year, I would think.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that'd be my guess.
34:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, probation, but he's getting fired from his firm.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh he's not gonna work again.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't think this guy's getting any time.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: Really?
34:54
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna tell him his distributor.
34:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the bigger guy, the bigger dog.
34:58
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: He did change distributors, so apparently they were getting their drugs from Philadelphia originally, and then that person started ghosting them.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: No reason why.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then he started getting his drugs in New York.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: That's two bargaining chips, even though he's not doing business with them anymore.
35:13
SPEAKER_03: He was right.
35:15
SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, I don't think he's gonna do any time.
35:19
SPEAKER_03: It's definitely a little witness protection.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: It's definitely a felony, whatever it is that he's looking at out.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he'll probably get the felony, but then they'll give him like three years of probation and then uh like some sort of uh restitution type of stuff.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't think he'll see too much time behind bars.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: So uh one of the things when I what I researched was that um he's facing potentially substantial state prison exposure if convicted of the major trafficking conspiracy uh and corrupt organization charges, but that's like the big ticket item.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh I guess the other defendants that are charged with misdemeanor possession, paraphernalia, uh, they're looking at possibly like one year and a five thousand dollar fine.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: That paraphernalia one is the one they get you on.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: It will get you, is that what she says?
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what they got uh Tommy Chong on.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: Remember, he went to jail for for the paraphernalia.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't know.
36:16
SPEAKER_03: I never got caught with drugs.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: I had a quarter pound of weed in the car the night I got arrested.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: Never heard anything about it.
36:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure they did they smoke that shit.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: One of his nicknames is Pablo Pledge Scabar.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's nice.
36:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's that's that's a good fucking that's a good trademark.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so okay, so some of the charges will be like uh conspiracy, corrupt organization, unlawful proceeds, uh, and yeah, possession of paraphernalia.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh I did see so like because it's a r I thought there would be like a racketeering uh aspect to it, sure, but that's a federal level, not a state level.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: But state level has if Pennsylvania has a similar statute that is likened to a Rico statute.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: I think it's called like organized corruption.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: So it's a similar idea, uh, but it's a it's not as likely big as federal, because federal, I think it's got to be like so many conspirators and like whatever.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: So I think they can do it on a smaller scale state wise, but yeah.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: He's really getting a uh Hail Mary here with them not making this a federal charge.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that seems like it's working out in his his favor.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: That's very interesting, especially considering he's crossing state lines with it.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: But I think you could argue that it's actually not in his favor because a state prison is actually worse than a federal prison.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh, is it?
37:45
SPEAKER_03: From what I've heard, yeah.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: So my understanding is like the federal is more likely in the wings, making sure the state doesn't do something wrong.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: And as long as the state does everything right, most likely uh it will be a state charge situation.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: But you never know as they're investigating further, uh, there might be something that triggers the federals to come in and say, you know what, we're gonna take over from here.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: So they're not gonna because he's snitching.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: Maybe he's for sure telling he's getting a deal.
38:15
SPEAKER_03: They're probably sitting in an interrogation room smoking cigarettes and eating McDonald's right now.
38:22
SPEAKER_03: Right this fucking minute.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: Possibly.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so that's my crime today.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: That's my story.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: What about you, Tony?
38:30
SPEAKER_03: That's uh you said that's ongoing, right?
38:32
SPEAKER_02: It's an ongoing investigation.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: It's uh the charges are I don't even know if the charges have been pending, like if they're even quote, pending yet.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: They they did present it in front of a grand jury, and that's how they ended up being able to uh arrest him.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: So the the grand jury found that there was enough to arrest him.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
38:53
SPEAKER_01: So I learned a couple of things.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: I learned the kids are into cocaine still.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: I did not know that.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: So that's the big thing.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, the kids are definitely still into the book.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: They're still in the cocaine, okay.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, big time, unfortunately.
39:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, I learned that uh criminals could be very handsome.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: I'll say this guy's very, very good looking.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: Very pronounced.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate that.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's talking about himself.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: You too, you too.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: I everybody who's committed a crime is a good-looking guy.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Smooth criminal.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, some people think that.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: Some people think that there's like a bad boy appeal, and they're into that type of thing.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you have thoughts on that.
39:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, sure.
39:32
SPEAKER_02: I think I think there's a certain aspect of like, oh, he's a bad boy, but he's nice to me.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: I think that a lot of girls like that, you know.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: You think this kid is cleaning up right now because of the notoriety for things?
39:42
SPEAKER_02: If he were to go out and he's he's arrested and when he gets out, is he is he behind bars?
39:46
SPEAKER_02: He's yeah, he doesn't have bail.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: He couldn't qualify for bail.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: You think women are gonna be like, oh, he's the it depends, bro.
39:52
SPEAKER_03: If he doesn't snitch, maybe.
39:54
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, but if he tells it, he ain't getting no pussy when he gets home.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: I bet he probably pulled some some situations though before this all happened.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: Like when he was when he was in the frat, like he probably just yeah, for sure.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, cocaine will do that for you.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: I I know firsthand exactly what cocaine can do for you.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, he lived an interesting 24 years, so it's I'd love to see what the future holds for Alberto over here.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's interesting too because like Sigma Chi was already kicked off the campus, right?
40:30
SPEAKER_02: And then that's my understanding, Delta Epsilon was still part of the campus.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: So I wonder if now Delta Epsilon will be in trouble, and that'll be if that'll be on restriction or if they'll like double secret probation or so.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: What did the other one do to get in trouble if if cocaine kingpinning is what they what do the other ones do that that did get that kicked off?
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, a lot of times, I mean I'm sure Arizona State probably had it.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: I so I was a pepperdine, pretty much you sneeze the wrong direction, you get in trouble at Pepperdine because it's a dry campus, Christian, all the things.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: But like I do know that different schools, like if they are aggressive with hazing, if there's a sexual assault allegation, um, you know, uh probably drugs.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: Those kinds of things are all reasons why they can or you know, if the fraternity has a party and they um do kind of destruction in the in the city, you know what I mean?
41:25
SPEAKER_02: Like someone like I remember I don't think this kid was a fraternity boy, and this, but it's just kind of like in the same vein, you know.
41:32
SPEAKER_02: Uh there was a guy, my f I want to say it was my freshman, I can't remember his name, but I could see his face, and he got real drunk, and my understanding, and he got pissed when he was at Jack in the Box.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: And for whatever reason, I think like the uh radio thing that you talk into, like they couldn't hear him or something.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: So he got out of the car, he was with his friends, and he punched the uh Jack in the Box like speaker, right?
42:00
SPEAKER_02: It's off campus, nothing to do with our school, right?
42:04
SPEAKER_02: But and this is the 90s, so I don't know how they were able to figure out, but they were able to probably because there's not very many kids in Malibu, you know what I mean?
42:12
SPEAKER_02: Like drunk and ordering Jack in the Box, right?
42:16
SPEAKER_02: That's their probably their number one clientele, but uh they figured out it was him and he he got uh he didn't get expelled, but he got like probation.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: So, but like I think second semester he couldn't be at school, so he had to come back sophomore year that way.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: But my point just being like the school will find out that something bad happened in the community, and if you're in a fraternity and the fraternity is at the the like if it was a fraternity sanctioned event and something bad happened in the community, that could be a demerit against them.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: So sure.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh so that's interesting to hear.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: Pepperdine and Arizona State are kind of different colleges, so yeah, Arizona State is like uh if everybody was that kid, so uh you can major in tequila at that school.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: So it is uh it's definitely a party school, and um they they tried to ban kegs at tailgating events, okay, and people like rioted and then they gave up on it.
43:15
SPEAKER_01: So that's the difference there.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: Like it's a very embedded tree, though.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: They were like, maybe just don't bring a keg.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: And people were like, no, no, no.
43:27
SPEAKER_03: The people demand the metal barrels of beer.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: We need we need we need our beer in in barrel form.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: My my cousin, he didn't go to college, his son went to ASEO.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh, so my cousin's my age, right?
43:42
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, I get a call from my son, and he's like, Hey, the professor told me I don't need to do any more of my semester because I have the best A in the class.
43:54
SPEAKER_02: It's like they're a month and a half into semester.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: It's like I go, do I get a On tuition?
44:01
SPEAKER_02: He's like, what do you mean you don't have to go to class anymore?
44:04
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I don't have to go to class.
44:05
SPEAKER_02: Sounds about right.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: So, like basically, he was a month and a half into the semester, and the professor's like, You're doing so good, you don't have to come back to class.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he probably uh was a good looking guy, and he's like, uh, go out there and use your time more effectively.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: It's a fun school.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it it they are you frequently a number one party school, but that's not the only they have other records too.
44:31
SPEAKER_01: They're also frequently uh top five uh sexiest alumni school from Playboy, and that article comes out once a year, and I always take it and I send to my wife, and I'm like, this is because of me.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: And she never she never believes that for a second, but top top five most sexiest alumni.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: So these are some of the records for that that school.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: Do you know who John McEnroe is?
44:53
SPEAKER_01: Of course, the angry golfer, uh tennis player.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, tennis player.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: So he was a very good tennis player in the late 70s, early 80s, let's say, right?
45:03
SPEAKER_02: And uh he decided that he wanted to go to college at Stanford, and one of the you know, newspaper people were like, Well, how did you choose to go to Stanford?
45:13
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, I'd always heard that the women in California, it was nine out of ten were hot and attractive.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: So that's so that's why I decided to go to school in California.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: But when I got to Stanford, I learned where that one girl goes to school.
45:37
SPEAKER_03: Johnny Mac.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fucking funny.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: He's a New Yorker, right?
45:40
SPEAKER_02: He is, yeah, yeah.
45:41
SPEAKER_02: Is he from Long Island too, or no?
45:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't think he's from Long Island, but he's always at the Knicks Games.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's always in Adam Sandler movies.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's kind of funny.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, no, uh Peverdine is not a party school.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, not even close.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Now on the other hand, on the other end of it, my brother went to Cal State Long Beach, and he I think I told you this when um when uh Timmy was on the on the podcast.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: So my brother was so smart in one of his math classes that the professor was like, We you should not take the test, because if you take the test, you're gonna disrupt the curve.
46:16
SPEAKER_02: And my brother's like, Okay.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: And he's the first in my entire family to go to college.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: He comes home, tells my mom, he's like, uh the professor told me I shouldn't take the test because I'm gonna disrupt the curve.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: And my mom's like, What do you want to do?
46:27
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Well, I kinda want, I kind of want to take the test.
46:30
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, go fuck that curve up.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: So he took the test.
46:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
46:34
SPEAKER_02: He he graduated number one in his class, biomedical electrical engineering.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Holy Jesus.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Very smart, very smart, yeah.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: Holy smart.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: He's he sucked most of it out.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: I didn't get any of that.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: So this is the close to electronics I get.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, yeah.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: So what's your story for us this week, Tony?
46:54
SPEAKER_03: I have a question for you guys.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: Let's go.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: All right, here's this scenario.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: You have a warrant out for your arrest.
47:03
SPEAKER_03: Two of them actually.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: Right?
47:06
SPEAKER_03: The police track you down to your job.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: You work at a power plant.
47:11
SPEAKER_03: That's irrelevant, really.
47:13
SPEAKER_03: Kinda.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: But you work at this power plant, the police track you to your job.
47:17
SPEAKER_03: You intend to flee.
47:21
SPEAKER_03: What do you do?
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Where do you go?
47:22
SPEAKER_02: Do I have the power to flee?
47:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, power plant.
47:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, we've met before, but just I have to ask.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: This isn't like when you go to a doctor's office and you're like, my friend has No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: Not helping you.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: I know exactly what I would do.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: I I've run from the police many a time as I got.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: So I have the I have the warrants.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm at the power plant.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're at your job.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: And the police show up.
47:53
SPEAKER_03: And the police show up and they have a warrant for your arrest.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: But you know that they're looking for you.
47:58
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: And you know, like there's a warrant out for your arrest.
48:02
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
48:02
SPEAKER_03: And you intend to run.
48:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you intend- oh.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: Yes, you intend to run.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: How big is the power plant?
48:08
SPEAKER_02: How close is my car?
48:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I don't know.
48:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, I intend to run.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: How am I gonna get out of here?
48:16
SPEAKER_02: You're definitely not climbing up.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, don't go on those wires.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: That's the origin story for Electro and Spider-Man.
48:21
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't he trying to get away from Spider-Man and then he he jumped into the wires and then turned into electro.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: I haven't.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's interesting.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: Um I would um You're gonna leave the power plant.
48:32
SPEAKER_03: I'll say that.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: So you have to run.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like you're gonna leave the power plant.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: Can I sneak out in like a uh like a Con Edison van, pretending to be like I put that that that electrician.
48:42
SPEAKER_03: You can do whatever you want to do.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna put the electrician uh suit on.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna put the hard hat on.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get in the van, and then I'm gonna sneak out and like with the whole outfit on and everything.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then and then when they stop me, I'm gonna give them a little like uh oh, there's an outage out in uh in Riverside.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna do like I'm gonna do like a real like uh like a workman type like thing.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, I think that's pretty smart.
49:06
SPEAKER_01: That fucking bosses make me work overtime, uh, you know, like that that that type of thing.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: I think that's pretty smart.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: What about you?
49:11
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I would um try to change clothes.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: It's a good idea, and then uh borrow my friend's car.
49:21
SPEAKER_01: This is not a bad idea.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: My idea, but with like like small different setups.
49:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I'm I you're adding clothes, I'm changing clothes.
49:30
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: You went into a company marked car, I'm going into a just someone else's car.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: It's not my car.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Um probably tell my boss I'm sick and just leave.
49:42
SPEAKER_03: I don't think I would bother telling my boss.
49:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh but I would tell you what I would not do.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: I would not run and hide in a lake.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
49:54
SPEAKER_03: So there's a guy.
49:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, lakes are like there's only a finite uh area.
49:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's not a river.
50:00
SPEAKER_03: The thing is, this guy, Chris Boone, he had two warrants out for his arrest, and he ran.
50:06
SPEAKER_03: And he decided that in order to throw off the because they were deploying K9s, in order to throw their scent off or whatever, water, he was gonna hide in the lake.
50:18
SPEAKER_03: But he was gonna hide in the lake.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: With like a straw and lay down there and no straw, no snorkel.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: Like I'm going to submerge myself in this lake to hide from them.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: What a dummy.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: Did he do that?
50:31
SPEAKER_02: Where where are we where is this happening?
50:34
SPEAKER_03: Can you guess?
50:35
SPEAKER_02: Florida.
50:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
50:38
SPEAKER_03: Can you guess what his charges were?
50:40
SPEAKER_03: Meth.
50:41
SPEAKER_03: Yes, dude.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: Yes, bro.
50:46
SPEAKER_03: He had two warrants for meth possession and distribution.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: So he goes and decides he's gonna fucking submerge himself in the lake until the fucking canines are gone.
51:01
SPEAKER_03: There's only one fucking problem with that.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: You he's not a fish.
51:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you need to fucking breathe.
51:07
SPEAKER_03: What a fucking dumb.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: Was he high when this happened?
51:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: He had to have been.
51:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he had to have been.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a fucking that's a a messed up idea if I ever heard one in my life.
51:20
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna go hide in this fucking lake.
51:22
SPEAKER_03: They're never gonna find me.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: The dogs won't be able to smell me underwater.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna clean it while I'm down there.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: Like a boss.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: And they got gators there too, you know.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're a meth, bro.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: You can fist fight a gator on meth.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: And wow.
51:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
51:47
SPEAKER_02: Was this like a like a man-made lake?
51:49
SPEAKER_02: Was this a real lake?
51:50
SPEAKER_03: It was a uh lake in the neighborhood, I think.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or more like a pond, even.
51:54
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
51:55
SPEAKER_03: It was like a lake lake.
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
51:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh Jesus.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so needless to say, he runs out of air, fucking shoots up out of the fucking water, and then they arrest him.
52:05
SPEAKER_02: Within like a second.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it probably didn't take too long.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: No, I bet you the police was standing there, yes, watched like the whole submerged.
52:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah.
52:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, like, like, like they like they watched it.
52:15
SPEAKER_03: Like, they didn't even have their guns out at that point.
52:17
SPEAKER_03: They were like, Okay, they'll be back.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: Side tangent, but did you see about like two to three weeks ago, there was a guy on a car chase that ended in like Santa Monica or Hermosa Beach?
52:28
SPEAKER_02: No.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: And he ended up taking off his clothes and going in the ocean.
52:31
SPEAKER_02: Going into the ocean, yeah.
52:32
SPEAKER_03: And they said the funniest part about that was that lifeguards.
52:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were like, they're still trying to apprehend him.
52:40
SPEAKER_03: They're literally swimming like eight feet apart from each other, like, bro, y'all got him.
52:45
SPEAKER_03: I know his dicks out, dude, but like grabbing him.
52:48
SPEAKER_03: What the fuck?
52:49
SPEAKER_02: But to be fair, the the lifeguards are not p like they're not trained for that kind of stuff.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's fair.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: They're not like they have zero protection on, they're like literally wearing board shorts and nothing.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: And if the guy has a knife on him, like and meth strength.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: So they're probably waiting for him to tire out, you know, and then okay, let's like Wasn't he out there for like hours?
53:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's kind of like you know, like a dog.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
53:16
SPEAKER_02: Like you want to walk your dog around the block a bunch of times and get him tired before like you go to bed, right?
53:21
SPEAKER_01: So, like, or yeah, let him tell himself out.
53:25
SPEAKER_02: Maybe the same thing with kids.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
53:26
SPEAKER_01: He was on meth.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
53:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like, no matter what, he if even if he wasn't let me say yes.
53:32
SPEAKER_03: Like I'm I get exhausted after swimming for 15 minutes.
53:35
SPEAKER_03: I can't imagine hours, dude.
53:37
SPEAKER_02: The guy looked like he was in okay shape.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: So I mean he wasn't like treading the shit out of that water.
53:42
SPEAKER_03: I'll give him that.
53:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I have friends that played water pole in high school, and I'm sure that they could probably tread for like an hour.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: That's true, you know, so back in the day at least.
53:52
SPEAKER_03: Waterfall people are badass, dude.
53:54
SPEAKER_03: When I was uh last semester, no, not last semester, the semester before that it was last fall.
54:02
SPEAKER_03: I took uh uh jujitsu class that I had to go into the campus for, and it would be fucking 6 45, 7 o'clock in the morning, and they're already in the water doing drills, and it's like fucking 50 degrees outside.
54:19
SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
54:20
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
54:21
SPEAKER_02: That's that's how I got the name JJ, is my friends on the water polo team, they would always call me JJ.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: I didn't play water polo, but really, yeah, I'm still friends with them to this day.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they they were yeah, but it's always kind of odd too, because it's like when you're in high school and you're going to your friend's water polo game and they're wearing underwear, and you're pretty much just like, okay, they're wearing underwear, like, cool, you know.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Do you have any crimes that you want to confess?
54:50
SPEAKER_01: Do I have any crimes that I want to confess?
54:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I don't know if I should confess this or not, but I went through a stint during COVID where I was taking stuff from that self-checkout at Target.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: Ah, who was it?
55:02
SPEAKER_01: You know, I and uh you know, it started out very innocuous.
55:06
SPEAKER_01: It was like uh there was nobody working there.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: There was one thing that was not scanning, and I was like, well, they're this this they're uh they're making me inconvenient, so I'm just gonna do it.
55:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but then it like snowballed into like a tip for ringing up your own groceries.
55:24
SPEAKER_01: But somebody told me that they're gonna start cracking down on that.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: So I think probably what happened was is that it took so many jobs away that now different cities are saying that they're gonna outlaw it um self-checkout.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: So somebody told me that it's illegal if it's like over a certain dollar threshold.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: But for wait, for you to take or for you to do self-checkout?
55:48
SPEAKER_01: To steal things from talking.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: I think it's$900.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but somebody said that they're doing like a facial recognition thing.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, yeah, they'll let you run your tab up.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: Keep stealing shit.
56:00
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, and we're gonna come get you on pizza felony.
56:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: I thought you meant they're getting away from self-checkout because that's I read an article that's saying that.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: I've seen that too.
56:08
SPEAKER_01: You go you go now to some talking.
56:10
SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are closing out.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: And it's kind of a thing where I think it was a response to um, again, the 90s, early 2000s, there was a lot of um strikes on like grocery store checkouts.
56:23
SPEAKER_02: And so, like, there was a lot of strikes on that.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: And then they I think the grocery stores were like, we're gonna do self-checkout because you know, we'll just have a computer check it out, and then that way, you know, um, we don't have to worry about people striking, and then I don't know.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: And but then you lose the the personal touch of like, hey, how's it going?
56:40
SPEAKER_02: Did you find everything today?
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Nine nine times out of ten when the person's like, Did you find everything today?
56:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't think they care if I found everything today.
56:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, they're just making conversation.
56:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
56:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh and uh uh do you guys pay for the bags if you use the bags?
56:53
SPEAKER_01: Do you guys pay for the no?
56:54
SPEAKER_01: What bags?
56:55
SPEAKER_02: I have been I'll be like, I'm like carrying like 17 things, like I don't need a bag.
57:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm putting it in the bag, I'm not paying for it.
57:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, I don't give a fuck.
57:05
SPEAKER_02: The bags are like way nicer quality though, I'll tell you how much.
57:08
SPEAKER_03: This is my thing.
57:09
SPEAKER_03: When they first started charging us 10 cents for these funky ass fucking bags, it was 10 cents to get a fucking plastic bag and the paper ones for free.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: Now it's 10 cents for a fucking paper bag.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that is.
57:23
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
57:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm not paying 10 cents for a paper bag.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: You ever go to a state uh where they don't charge for bags?
57:28
SPEAKER_01: And if you feel like you've gone back into a magical time, Arizona, right?
57:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, you can't.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: Oregon.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
57:34
SPEAKER_01: Just like, give me all these bags.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: So I got like take it and put them on.
57:37
SPEAKER_02: I saw Dana or uh I saw David Spade holding up straws like a few years ago, and everybody's like, he's like, I've got some contraband.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: And then there's this comedian named Mike E.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: Winfield.
57:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh he's LA, I don't know.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh he has this really great joke where he's like, uh, I used to work in the grocery store.
57:56
SPEAKER_02: I worked in the um the steal section.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: And people were like, he's like, yeah, self-checkout.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I just watch people steal.
58:04
SPEAKER_02: So good.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: I saw this guy perform one time, Mike E.
58:08
SPEAKER_02: Winfield.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh it was local, it was like a local comedy show.
58:12
SPEAKER_02: But it was in a tent.
58:14
SPEAKER_02: It was real rough.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: Like the there was like the audio was breaking down.
58:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh, there was no spotlight.
58:20
SPEAKER_02: And as he was doing, he was like number three, as he's doing his bit.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: Actually, let me fast let me rewind.
58:26
SPEAKER_02: The host goes, he's doing a great job.
58:29
SPEAKER_02: And then uh the next guy, uh, I I I have to look it up who it was, but it's it's somebody who's like on the circuit.
58:35
SPEAKER_02: This next guy coming to the stage, he's great.
58:37
SPEAKER_02: Like the the guy walks up to the stage and he like looks around and he's like, fuck this.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: And he walked away.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: He just left.
58:42
SPEAKER_02: So then it was like, and the host like thought it was funny.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: He's like thought he was coming back, didn't come back.
58:48
SPEAKER_02: So then my husband's kind of like nudging me.
58:50
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh, I wonder if like you could do like three minutes, you know.
58:52
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh yeah, like maybe ha ha.
58:55
SPEAKER_02: Some guy is like, I've got three minutes, and I was like, damn, I wish I would have like I wish I would have said every shot you don't shoot.
59:01
SPEAKER_02: I know, but this guy, it was terrible.
59:05
SPEAKER_02: It was like he got up right away and he had like one like hot moment, like one like riding that momentum of volunteering, yep.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: And it was like good, and then he was like, next thing, bomb, and then it wasn't a joke, it was just like crowd work, and he wasn't a it was just bad.
59:21
SPEAKER_02: And he, but his whole thing was like, it's like I prayed for three minutes when I was driving here.
59:26
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Lord, give me three minutes, like any whatever you do.
59:29
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, and it and the Lord answered like so that was kind of like cute, you know, and then he had a good one, and then it was like so, but he was so like I want to say Mike E went Mike E.
59:37
SPEAKER_02: Winfield River goes next, and as he's performing, the microphone cuts out.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: But he was able to project.
59:45
SPEAKER_02: No, it was like it died completely, not like not like cutting in and out, I mean dead, and he was able to project, and I will tell you, like, I actually thought it added something to his bit because it really you really felt like like it was like uh you were in it with him.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's more intimate than that.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_02: So I was fortunate like closer to the stage, so I could really hear him.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: I felt bad for the people in the back.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it was it was funny.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, he's a funny guy.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so anyway.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_03: What uh what do you got coming up in comedy?
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: Uh so one of the things I would like to plug if I can is I am teaching a comedy class in September.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_01: Oh hell yeah.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh so I teach at Flapper's Comedy the level two joke structure class.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_01: So it meets every Wednesday.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: For people to show off what they worked on.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_01: Great for people who are new.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_01: We get a lot of new people who don't know how to write a joke, but also people come through that have been doing stand-up for a while and just want to workshop in an area.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_03: How would you go about signing up for that?
1:00:45
SPEAKER_01: You would go to flapperscomedy.com and then there's a section for classes, and you would take the September level two joke structure class.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: You're also hosting or teaching a hosting class too, right?
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: I have been teaching hosting classes.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know when the the the next one is, but there is a really cool one-day workshop that they do there on how to be a better MC.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: And we go over mic technique, we go over what your opening set could look like, and we also go over how to bring people up and not do it in an awkward way.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: I was telling him earlier off camera about the show that we did that was outside where that it was I don't want to say anything more descriptive about it, but it was like where the host was doing like three minutes between each set.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh my fucking.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: Don't say anything else, because I don't I the person is a lovely person.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's a grace, it's a fun spot, but it was fucking weird.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: It was it was yeah, it was right.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_03: But like he is a bit he's he's a little yeah, he's a little strange.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: And it just makes it hard when you're like like you're like standing on the side of the stage and you're like, okay, this is where oh no.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm gonna oh it's gonna ask me.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_03: No, and you're like ready to like go up there, and you're just like he's literally telling like three four minute stories in between each set.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: I think one of the things people don't realize about standup is that hosting is a lot of work.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like I hate it.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_01: It's like that's fair.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_01: I hate it.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_01: So it's actually like doing a job for the show.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: So because of that, not everybody wants to do that.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_01: So I think people assume that like the host must be awesome at stand-up.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_01: That's how he got this gig.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_01: Not always the case because sometimes nobody wants to host.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't like it.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_01: So you get people who are sometimes uh not not great stand-ups because it they're new, or uh, you know, just they they they have an interest in doing that role, but uh, I think when I first started, I thought, okay, the host is like the best.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_01: The guy, right?
1:02:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's the he's the star of the show, right?
1:02:45
SPEAKER_01: You see him all the whole time.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_01: No, that's not always not always the case.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_03: No, it's the guy that agreed to it.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_03: Which is me right now.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing that role a lot.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, that was cool.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, thanks so much for coming down.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_02: It was great having you.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_02: And um, and just in case if you are on the run.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_02: If you are on the run.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_03: I need you to sign that.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_02: I was actually gonna say this is a souvenir for you.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_01: If you wanna What if I did like a prison break type situation with him where I met him in the prison and then we swap face swap style and you tattoo the blueprints of the fucking prison on your chest?
1:03:27
SPEAKER_01: I think it's so funny.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_02: I feel like you should use.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not telling you what to do, but I feel like you can use that in your stand-up.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_02: You'd be like, hey, have you guys seen me in the news recently?
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Let me remind you, hey.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: I changed my profile picture to this for some.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_01: See if everybody knows this.
1:03:44
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1:03:56
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1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
1:03:57
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1:03:58
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