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#2096 Optimising Brain Performance - Dr. Denise Furness · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I'll get are you bloody Champions. It's Jumbo, it's Fatty Harps.
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  Speaker 1: It's doctor Denise, who's definitely not a jumbo, definitely not
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  Speaker 1: fat from the thriving metropolis of Queensland, she joins us.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Doc, Hello, how are you. I know you've had
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  Speaker 2: a very busy day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh busy day, back to back, back to back, but always.
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  Speaker 4: Happy to be here and chatting with you, Craig Harper almost.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very glad, very glad.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm writing something because this is not great listing.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize listeners. Cognebisi all right, because I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about something. So I'm going to give you the
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  Speaker 1: heads up.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone. This is a little warning.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do about a six or seven minute
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  Speaker 1: promo about a program we're doing, which won't be for
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  Speaker 1: all of you. Of course, it'll probably not be for
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  Speaker 1: most of you. It'll be for some of you. So
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  Speaker 1: I've tried very hard on this show not to promote
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  Speaker 1: or not to do ads, because ads kind of suck
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  Speaker 1: in terms of I know we have you in build ads,
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  Speaker 1: but that's how we hey for the show. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of me doing advertorials, I hate doing it, but
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  Speaker 1: I am very, very proud of this and excited about
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  Speaker 1: this thing that Denise and I are doing. So if
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  Speaker 1: you want to zoom through this you can and we'll
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  Speaker 1: have a normal potty in about five or six or
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  Speaker 1: seven minutes. But anyway, Denise and I, the lovely Denise
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  Speaker 1: and I are running a program up in her neck
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  Speaker 1: of the woods, to be specific, at the Mantra Hotel
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  Speaker 1: in Malulabar on the Sunshine Coast. The program is called
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  Speaker 1: the Reset Program, which is a little bit self explanatory,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll dive into it a bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's this June. It's June, so.
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  Speaker 1: It's still a way away June twelve to fourteen. That's
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  Speaker 1: a Friday night to a Sunday. Now, Denise and I
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  Speaker 1: are going to give you a very brief snapshot of
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  Speaker 1: what we're each doing. We're collaborating, we're working together. The
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  Speaker 1: idea of her being the genetic wizard. What's a female wizard,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's just go guru, who's it s
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with good educator, world authority, which is very true.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to just kind of play in the biological
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  Speaker 1: space and the genetic space and the you know, learning
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  Speaker 1: to love your body and look after your body space.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be a little bit of that, but
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  Speaker 1: more in the headspace, mind state, brain space, behavioral self
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  Speaker 1: regulation space. So we have a waiting list which is
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  Speaker 1: currently open. The reason we have a waiting list is
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  Speaker 1: because Denise, if I fuck something up, just.
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  Speaker 2: Say Craig, you fucked this up. The reason we have
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  Speaker 2: a waiting.
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  Speaker 1: List is because we only have to have fifty spaces
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  Speaker 1: fifty places. Obviously, it's an invert an in person event.
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  Speaker 1: A few people have already said can we do it online?
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we're planning to do a few of these, so
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  Speaker 1: this is our first one, but we're excited. We've both
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  Speaker 1: been presenting forever. I've been presenting for forty years, Denise
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  Speaker 1: not quite as long, but she's been presenting all over
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  Speaker 1: the world in the last few years. She's high regarded
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  Speaker 1: me not so much, but I'll go anyway. So we
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  Speaker 1: have a weight list that you can go on to.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you're committing, that doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: you're obligated to do anything, But what it means is
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  Speaker 1: if you go onto the wait list, then you are
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  Speaker 1: first to be off at a place. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: on the wait list. We actually are going to launch
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  Speaker 1: to the people in the wait list for about a
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  Speaker 1: week before we open it up to the general public.
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  Speaker 1: So when we launch the program and make ticketing available,
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  Speaker 1: spaces available to the people on the wait list that
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  Speaker 1: will not be known by the public until a week later.
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  Speaker 1: People who sign up or people who get on that
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  Speaker 1: weight list will get a significantly cheaper price if they
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  Speaker 1: want to take it. But let me just remind you
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  Speaker 1: that the.
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  Speaker 3: Weight list really quickly. At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: This is for you know, my people and your people, right,
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  Speaker 4: we have people that are dedicated to your podcast. I've
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  Speaker 4: got my people too that have been dying to see
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  Speaker 4: me live. So for those of you that want to
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  Speaker 4: get in, and as Craig said, obviously only fifty spots.
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  Speaker 4: So giving you this information quick. But the other thing
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  Speaker 4: is all the stuff that we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 4: really really quickly. Should we just mention this stuff just
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  Speaker 4: what we might?
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing, so being
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  Speaker 1: on the wait list is not an obligation.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can be on the weight list and then.
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  Speaker 1: When we make it live, you know, buy your ticket
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  Speaker 1: by your place or you can go nah so there's
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  Speaker 1: there's no hooks, catches or agendas. Once again. June twelve
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  Speaker 1: to fourteen, the Reset Program. Denise and I, why don't
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  Speaker 1: we start with you.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to divulge too much, but just to
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  Speaker 1: give you a snapshot everybody of where Denise is going
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  Speaker 1: to focus, where I'm going to focus. I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that it will be a very interactive if I'm there,
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  Speaker 1: I hope fun experience. Denise's fun. I'm fun while I
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  Speaker 1: try to be. I like you to in You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is not university. This is, but it is. There
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  Speaker 1: is a big focus on education and inspiration and helping
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  Speaker 1: you operationalize your potential in a very real way. We're
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  Speaker 1: not just going to talk at you for forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 1: I want this to be the genesis for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you, the starting point for a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: to do some big transformative work. That's what I want.
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  Speaker 1: Depends what you want, doctor Denise. Tell us what you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be sharing on the weekend in June.
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  Speaker 4: So I will be talking about biological age, and for
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  Speaker 4: those that know what I do, I've been talking about
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  Speaker 4: that for a long time all over the world. So
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  Speaker 4: I'll be there talking about biological age, what speeds up aging,
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  Speaker 4: and more importantly, what you'll probably want to know what
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  Speaker 4: slows down aging. I'll be talking about nutrition. Obviously I'm
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  Speaker 4: a nutritionist as well, so you know what of fads,
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  Speaker 4: what's really going to move the needle from a health perspective,
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  Speaker 4: as well as genetics, optimizing your genetics. You don't have
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  Speaker 4: to have done DNA testing, but understanding and listening.
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  Speaker 3: To your body.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's something that Craig and I talk
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  Speaker 4: about all the time, is paying attention. We're often so disconnected,
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  Speaker 4: so really just connecting with your body. What are the
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  Speaker 4: priorities for you? So you're walking away at the end
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  Speaker 4: of this knowing the action steps that you need to
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  Speaker 4: take to improve your health because we're a little bit
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  Speaker 4: different and learning about that. And as Craig said, yes, educational,
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  Speaker 4: but there'll be interactive staff.
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  Speaker 3: Craig's going to do the movement. You'll probably tell you
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  Speaker 3: about that.
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  Speaker 4: But of course we are fun too, a bit of
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  Speaker 4: fun in the middle of all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we're not, maybe we just think we are.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do some movement stuff, which is all optional,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, everything's optional. I mean, I wouldn't pay
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  Speaker 1: to go away for a weekend like this and choose
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  Speaker 1: not to come to too many sessions would defeat the.
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  Speaker 2: Point, I think. But in terms of the movement stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously my background is very much in the fitness exercise
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  Speaker 1: movie in Space, owning gyms, working with elite teams, athletes,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So we're going to have optional fitness
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  Speaker 1: and movement sessions, and probably every time we do a
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  Speaker 1: session there will be a range of options, either two
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  Speaker 1: or three options from easy ish too harder for people
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  Speaker 1: who want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I'm going to rip.
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  Speaker 1: Through what I'm kind of going to focus on, and
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  Speaker 1: then we're going to jump into a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to be exploring more.
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  Speaker 1: Head stuff, mind stuff, understanding human behavior stuff, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of sociology.
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  Speaker 2: What do I think the way that I do?
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  Speaker 1: Why do I behave the way that I do around
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  Speaker 1: this person? Why do I tell myself stories of fucking
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  Speaker 1: doom and gloom?
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  Speaker 2: And what can I do about that?
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  Speaker 1: How do I build a life and a life kind
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  Speaker 1: of operating system that is a reflection of who I
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  Speaker 1: want to be and how I want to be? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what are my values? What's the shit that matters to me?
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  Speaker 1: And how come I don't do that? How can I?
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  Speaker 1: How can I behavior outlast my motivation because we all
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  Speaker 1: get pumped and excited, we get in the zone and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, fack, this is me, and then four and
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  Speaker 1: a half minutes or weeks or days or whatever later,
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing it, despite the fact that we said
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  Speaker 1: we would be different this time. This is me, this
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  Speaker 1: is my time to shine. And that's not a weakness,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing, that's a human thing. So
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  Speaker 1: how do I actually build an operating system that means
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep doing what I need to do
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  Speaker 1: to get where I want to go. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about human potential. What is your potential? What is
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  Speaker 1: your capacity? What is your actual ability and potential and
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  Speaker 1: capacity versus what you think because they are vast most people,
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  Speaker 1: in my experience, my four decades of working with humans
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  Speaker 1: face to face, my experience is that most people don't
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  Speaker 1: have a fucking clue as to how capable they are.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to explore capability potential.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what success is for you,
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  Speaker 1: not globally but personally, like what matters to you and
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  Speaker 1: why we're going to talk about a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the way we see ourselves in the world, about the
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  Speaker 1: way we see others, how we understand, how others think.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about objective and subjective reality, what's
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  Speaker 1: actually going on, like what's going on? And then what's
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  Speaker 1: my version of what's going on? And is that empowering
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  Speaker 1: me or disempowering me. So it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: really nice synthesis between psychological, emotional, physiological health, and most importantly,
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  Speaker 1: we both want to kind of empower and encourage you
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  Speaker 1: to pick up the you know, the cricket bat and
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  Speaker 1: run or whatever metaphor you want to use, following the
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  Speaker 1: program so.
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  Speaker 3: And having steps right, practical steps that you walk away
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  Speaker 3: with so you know where to focus. You know, is
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  Speaker 3: that focus going to be?
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  Speaker 4: You really need to start prioritizing more of that exercise
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  Speaker 4: or you know, why are you doing it? The sleep,
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  Speaker 4: the nutrition, you know, a lot of you might know
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  Speaker 4: all these things that you should be doing, but prioritizing.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to your body and working out why aren't I
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  Speaker 3: doing that?
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  Speaker 4: And what do I need do and walking away with
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  Speaker 4: a bit of a plan, So you are prioritizing the
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  Speaker 4: most important thing that you want, because we're all a
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  Speaker 4: little bit different. One thing we're not doing is giving
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  Speaker 4: a protocol. We are teaching you the tools, the.
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  Speaker 3: Practical things you can do, and then you do what's
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  Speaker 3: right for you.
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  Speaker 4: And as Craig said as well, we do hope you
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  Speaker 4: come along for all the sessions, but you don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: This is your.
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  Speaker 4: Journey and if you want to go off and go
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  Speaker 4: for a walk on the beach, go for it. But
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  Speaker 4: if you want to be there and grab every bit
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  Speaker 4: of information and hang out with us the whole time,
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  Speaker 4: we would also love that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the overarching question without getting Dr Denise's permission
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  Speaker 1: on this would be something like, in the context of
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  Speaker 1: my life, my dreams, my goals, my needs, but how
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  Speaker 1: do I manage me optimally? I think we're not particularly
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  Speaker 1: good at managing ourselves. Some of us are, some of
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  Speaker 1: us not so much. Sometimes I'm a superstar, sometimes I'm dogshit.
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  Speaker 1: So how do I get better? I hope no new
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  Speaker 1: people listening to this, they're like, I'm definitely not going
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  Speaker 1: for that guy.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there, we know.
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  Speaker 3: I would not say that about yourself. You are not dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also, I probably should have said this. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to go on the wait list, go to craigharper
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  Speaker 1: dot net and that'll just you know, Denise's listeners, my listeners, whoever,
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  Speaker 1: and you can click on that and you'll see it there.
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  Speaker 1: Bib Bobby Boo. We'll mention the deats, just the quick
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  Speaker 1: beats at the end if you so care to hang
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  Speaker 1: around for that long. Now let's do a podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to ask you before we went live. You said
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  Speaker 1: to me, not in a siokie way, just in an
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  Speaker 1: updating me way. I've had a big day. I've done this, this, this, this,
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  Speaker 1: and I went I started at four thirty and you're
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  Speaker 1: my last commitment. And as i'm talking right now, it's
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  Speaker 1: four o four, so I'm going to be done is
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  Speaker 1: by four thirty four forty five. And one of my
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  Speaker 1: my challenges is I'm not bad at it, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a very common challenge. How do I how
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  Speaker 1: do I try and maintain my focus and my concentration
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  Speaker 1: and my energy and the quality of what I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: with my five pm person like you've got stuff till
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  Speaker 1: seven pm tonight in or eight pm tonight in Queensland,
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  Speaker 1: which is here right from early today.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like for a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of people, our challenge is how do I you know,
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  Speaker 1: between eight and two, I'm fucking amazing, and then at
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  Speaker 1: four I'm dog shit because I'm sliding into a coma.
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  Speaker 1: There goes that word again. Apologies, hashtag not really. What's
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  Speaker 1: your strategy for trying to keep your energy as much
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  Speaker 1: where it needs to be as possible?
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  Speaker 3: So a quick little break in between.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously I was ten minutes late coming onto the podcast,
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  Speaker 4: as you know, and I said, sorry, busy day, but
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  Speaker 4: I said I need five minutes, even though I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to come running in as I need five minutes, and
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  Speaker 4: I did. I had a water, I just had a breath,
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  Speaker 4: and I kind of just shook it all out right.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, I do need a break. You need
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  Speaker 3: a little reset because you've just been thinking about one thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've seen a patient where you've just had
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  Speaker 4: this meeting, or to get out of that space. But
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  Speaker 4: just giving yourself a little reset. Excuse the living there,
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  Speaker 4: but just that small little reset. I can't lie though,
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  Speaker 4: I would say that as the day goes on, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: the energy is different.
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  Speaker 3: What I do do and.
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  Speaker 4: I don't do this successfully. I am going to be
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  Speaker 4: very honest, is I do have planned breaks. I should
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  Speaker 4: technically have at least half an hour between all of
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  Speaker 4: my meetings and clients, and most of the time I'm
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  Speaker 4: actually pretty good at it, and.
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  Speaker 3: That half an hour is great.
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  Speaker 4: I can make a quick smoothie or have a coffee,
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  Speaker 4: or go out and pat the dog. That is so refreshing.
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  Speaker 4: But today's been one of those days where I was
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  Speaker 4: just a little a little bit over. But typically my
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  Speaker 4: days are no longer back to back like this. I've
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  Speaker 4: learned not to set my life up like this most
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  Speaker 4: of the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's not Yes, that's great, you know, I think you'll
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  Speaker 2: like this.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously, good personal trainers and there are good personal trainers,
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  Speaker 1: great personal trainers, there are shit personal trainers, just like
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  Speaker 1: in any industry or profession.
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  Speaker 2: But the trainers that.
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  Speaker 1: Work for me as honest as I can be or
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  Speaker 1: as objective as I can be about my own stuff,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't all amazing, but mostly they were somewhere between
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  Speaker 1: pretty good and I would say outstanding. But I always
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that I had a conversation with every
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  Speaker 1: trainer about was everybody's paying the same amount, so you
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  Speaker 1: can't give somebody forty percent you at five pm because
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  Speaker 1: you started work at five am and five am client
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  Speaker 1: got one hundred percent you because they're not getting the
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  Speaker 1: same value. So my question to you is doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent, but somewhere in the eighty
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  Speaker 1: ninety hundred. How many quality sessions can you do per day?
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  Speaker 1: Because if you can only do five great sessions, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to let you do six, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to let you do ten, and your threshold will build.
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  Speaker 1: But I used to talk to them about this concept
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  Speaker 1: called your shit threshold, and the shit threshold is how
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  Speaker 1: much of a certain thing you can do before it
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  Speaker 1: turns to shit. And so I know, for example, this
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  Speaker 1: weekend that we're going to do. I know that because
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  Speaker 1: I'm a high energy presenter, you're a high energy presenter.
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  Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to talk about the program, but I
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  Speaker 1: know that I need to manage me. I know that
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  Speaker 1: if I go all right, I'm going to present from
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  Speaker 1: here to here, then I'm having two hours where I
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  Speaker 1: might hang around or I might sleep, like whatever I
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  Speaker 1: need to do to be awesome for people for the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And I would say to my trainers maybe you do
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  Speaker 1: four in the morning and then maybe you have six
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  Speaker 1: hours off and maybe you do four in the late
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  Speaker 1: afternoon slash early evening. But I don't want you trying
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  Speaker 1: to do six or seven in a row if you
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  Speaker 1: can't do six or seven amazing sessions. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, in any job that's skill based or
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  Speaker 1: people facing, I think trying to understand what is your capacity,
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  Speaker 1: what is your threshold, because.
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  Speaker 2: After a while, you do your you do.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's got a brand, whether or not you think it
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  Speaker 1: might be just a brand within your team, but you
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  Speaker 1: do your brand and your reputation harm if you can't consistently,
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  Speaker 1: at least pretty consistently. Of course, people have good and
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  Speaker 1: bad days, but over the for the most part, you
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: know can produce something that's at a reasonably high level,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: especially if you want to build a reputation as somebody
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: who's great at what they do.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: And I think this leads into more than just performing
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: or you know as a PT or me being a practitioner,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you know, seeing patients. It's coming down to managing your energy.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Then also just for your long term health because you
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: push yourself constantly.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: So when I told you I have half an hour breaks.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: That's because I've learned and I, like most people have
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: been through burnout.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: You know, had an autoimmune condition, which no doubt came
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: for burnout.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: So you need to manage your energy and work out
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: what's best for you whatever you're doing in life, whether
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: you're in corporate, whether you're you know, behind the counter
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: at the bakery or whatever. Maybe you need to have
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: a I don't know, you need to have a walk
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: in the morning, or you need to do something at lunchtime.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: But it's managing your energy, not just so that you're
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: good for the person in front of you, but so
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you're good for yourself so you actually don't feel exhausted,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: so that you're actually not depleting yourself.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: So there's there's both ways.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: It's showing up for that person but also taking care
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: of yourself because you know, what you and I do
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: creat is we're they're to help people be the best
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: they can be, you know, to to go and find
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: their dreams and their goals, and that it's never going
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: to happen when you depleted and you're.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Busy and you go, go, go, So you need those.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Little moments to re energize. And I only have two
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: big days a week. By the way, it's Tuesday Thursday.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I would never usually do a podcast on a Thursday.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: That we had a chat yesterday about the program and
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: we were going to do the podcast. Moved it into today,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: which was fine. I actually had a longer gap. It
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: was meant to be. But I have two big days.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: My other days are not like that because I could
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: do every day like today. Otherwise I'd never show up
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: in that energetic way. But also I would burn out.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: So it's understanding, what are our limits?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: You know or not linkits? I know that's not a
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: good word, is it limits? But well energy managing energy, Well.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: We do have limits, and it's not bad things to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: say we have limits. But like when so you presented
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: at the U Project. By the way, everyone, we're going
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to do you Project conference this year if the old
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: docks available, although we can't fucking afford her anymore.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I got a windshis didn't realize how much she was worth.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But you know, when I've I've done half day kind
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of four hour gigs with seven hundred people where there's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: no one else at that auditorium you spack spoke at
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: at Deacon.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: University, the one I spack at.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the one you spack at. Thanks for picking
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, money, you can someone edit that out
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to leave it. I'm tired.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: We both people, we both are. We came into this.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: You know what you didn't mention. I'm just going a
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: little tangent here. I thought you were going to say
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of this podcast, because by the way
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: we both said, well we're going to talk about we'll
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: just you know, we'll just go with it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say when I.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Told her that I started at four and I was tired,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: she turned around and said, well, I started at eight
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and I don't finish till seven, Like it was a
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: competition between us.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so, I think, but I think gone.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: No, I was going to say, I I where you're
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: going with the long sessions too, not seven hundred people.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I mean I spoke in front of ten thousand people
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: just in December, spoke at Longevity Fest in Vegas.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It was ridiculously huge.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: But that was.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Only thirty minutes. Mind you, it's huge. It's full on.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: It's full on, like the energy of those couple of
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: days is just in tense.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: But what I was going to say is I've done
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: all day workshops, you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Know, and I've gone to London, and it's a bit
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: nerve racking knowing that I'm on the other side of
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the world and the next morning I've got to get up,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: you know. It's the time difference in jet lag and
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: stuff like that. But I prepare again thinking about the energy.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I'm so mindful of having a quiet night, you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: even if there is a dinner. So I do so
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: much of the international speaking and often they'll have a
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: speaker's dinner or people want to take me out, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I'm actually getting really good at saying no, even though
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I'm at social butterfly and I love people and I
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: want to catch up with everyone. I know that if
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I do too much, I then it does affect my
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: presentation in the sense that I'm more nervous because I'm.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: A bit tired. I'm not feeling as prepared.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: So I will generally always have a quiet night before
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: my presentation, and even if someone has put together a dinner,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I'll just politely decline and say I'm sorry, I need
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to just you know, I need to rest. So I
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: am more than ever very mindful of my energy. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: it's interesting because people always think I'm constantly high energy,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: and I am. I'm an extrovert. I feed off other people.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I love being around people. But if I don't have
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: those moments to recharge I do, I get very depleted.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: So what do you doing for our day when you're well?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: What I was going to say was, like you, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: do all day days work corporate, which are obviously fucking tiring,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But for me, it's not as emotional as when I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: working with people who plugged into me, like they know me,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they like me, they follow me, they love the show
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: they and I feel like, you know, I reckon sometimes
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in those seven hundred people events, I give three hundred hugs,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know. And so I go into that I can
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: do you know, four hours half our day ish and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: be way more tired than when like I did one
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: recently for the Department of Justice, and I spoke for
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: about ten hours.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Well that was a ten hour thing, but with breaks
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and whatever, and I was tired.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But when I'm totally plugged into a room where this
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is not a corporate thing, where I've got to tick
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: all these particular boxes and meet all these corporate criterion,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: don't say shit or fuck and don't do this, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know all that. Where you go and you do that,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's your job and I understand that and I can
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: do that. But I remember doing one of these half
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: day ones and I drove home and I was just smashed.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And I hadn't physically worked hard. I was just walking
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: up and back of stay stage talking but yeah, that stuff, okay.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So off the back of this, I had a question,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: why why were you so hap for me? Just just emotionally.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: It's like I had that particular day.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: We had.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I really would be guessing, but hundreds
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of people crying. M and then I see people crying,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I get emotional and I'm like, you can't lose your shit.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You're the fucking idiot up the front. Get it together,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: get it together. And then that takes a lot of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: self regulation. And I'm not embarrassed to cry. I've literally
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: cried in front of hundreds of people.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Mean too. But it's hard as a presenter. So I
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: presented two days after my mom passed.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: And believed it or I was talking about epigenetics through
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the women's lifespan. It started through preconception, fertility, which is
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: where I started. It ended at Alzheimer's dementia and my
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: mom passed Alzheimer's dementia, and of course the organizers were like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: you don't have to come, and I was like.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I'll be there. And I got right to the end, right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: To the end, and then I'm talking about dementia and
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: then I just you know, just almost like can't get
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: my breath. And then I told everyone and I'm crying,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean it was good because I guess
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: it was at the end. I didn't have to because
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I've had another one that I'll tell you about where
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: it was sort of earlier on. But I have to
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: say it took a lot out of me because I.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Wasn't comfortable crying.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I thought my before that I'd probably never been emotional
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: ever on stage, and I saw myself as the expert.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: It's not who I wanted to be.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: However, the feedback I got from that and years later,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: people you know, doctors that were there or people just
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: going that was one of the most moving talks that
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I'd ever heard, so I think people really loved that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Side of it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But then, of course, but a few years.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Later, similar thing when I started the healthy Aging study,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and I was starting to share the results from that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: That came off the back of my dad passing. Like
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: that sort of gave me a bit of the motivation
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: to focus on all that stuff. A few things all aligned.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: But I was talking about why I started the study,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and I was in New Zealand and I mentioned my
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: dad and I couldn't even believe it. I just started
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: crying at the beginning of the talk. But it was
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: it took so much energy to come back, like I
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: kept just trying to go, just get it together, just
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: get it together. But yes, I've cried on stage a
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: few times now, and I have to say, even though
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: it connects with people in a way and they say
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: they love it, I don't like it. Like I come
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: off stage going I wish I didn't do that. It's
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: interesting how we do that to ourselves.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I get it, but it just is what it is.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'll shut up after this and move on to a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: new question. But one of my best friends died about
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: ten years ago now. But I had anyway, I had
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a corporate gig. I had a corporate gig at two
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: pm in the city and my friend passed away in
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a car accident obviously totally unexpected, completely healthy, fit XAFL footballer,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: helicopter pilot, film producer, superstar. Also two of his only
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: two kids passed away. It's the saddest thing of all time. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: so wife left with none of the men in her life,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: right and saddest, Like, I've never been to a funeral
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like it. But anyway, So I found out that the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: funeral was on the same day, but it was like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: two and a half hours before, and I'm like, well,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'll go to the funeral. The funeral will be an hour.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I'll have at least an hour to get to the event.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I'm on my motorbike, it's twenty minutes away. I'll get
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: my shit together, I'll have a coffee, I'll throw some
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: water on my face, I'll put on my big boy
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: pants and I'll.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Do the thing. Right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So, the funeral starts late and it goes forever, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's still going like thirty minutes before I've got to present,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm at least fifteen twenty minutes away on a motorbike,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: so I you know, it's coming to an end. So
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it wasn't totally you know, horrible that I walked out,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: but so I had to leave, which obviously made me
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: feel shit. But there was literally three hundred people waiting
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: for me to talk of this thing. So I went
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to this thing and same, I'm like, I started talking
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about something and anyway, I thought of my mate and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: just like I just started losing it and I definitely
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have done the gig. And I just said
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to everyone, I just paused, and I said, this is
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: on no level should you need to tolerate this right now,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: but let me just briefly explain. And I told them
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and they were just like your people. They were like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that's like, thank you for being vulnerable,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: thank you for being honest. And it went better than
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: if I clearly I didn't cry for effect.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and so I think people are very compassionate.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And I think when you're crying.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Real, right, people like reality.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: We have this world where we think we need to
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: show up in a certain way, but truth is, people
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: people appreciate that because then all of a sudden they've
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: got a little bit of insight to you, and it
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: is it's so real.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I have a question for you. We'll pause that. Thank you.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you ever think about this.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But out in the world of you know, superstar bloody
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: social media, people who are all promoting this gizmo and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that supplement and you know, this peptide and that whatever
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off label, My patients come.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Through it and go, what about this? I've seen this online.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I pay two hundred dollars a month for this supplement
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, so, I mean, I know, obviously, without naming anybody,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I know lots of students, believe it or not, I'm
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: still a student who use neotropics, A nootropic just for
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: our listeners, essentially something that improves cognitive performance.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever opened this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Door, but things like again, not a recommendation anyone at all,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: but things like people use nicorette gum, so people who
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: don't even smoke, they'll use like a I'm not going
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to name doses or anything because I don't want to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: direct anyone to anything, but they'll use.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: There's good evidence for it though, and.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but so and things like modafinol, which is
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: an anti narcolepsy drug, which people use. Friend of mine,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: fuck another friend of mine who passed away a couple
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of years ago. Or a year and a half ago,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he was a pharmacist and he was all about it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yes, it's not addictive, it's this and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that and so other than my question, my.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Long whining because we don't necessarily want to be recommending them,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: but there are others.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just saying what people well,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I'm actually asking quite a what's the word, like.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: A morally grounded question.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So we don't want people necessarily, definitely not at our
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: direction or advice, taking drugs for their brain to work
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: optimally and to override their fatigue or whatever. And we
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: know sleep, and we know maybe a bit of caffeine,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and we know not having too much chaos, and we
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: know a bit of music, and we know a bit
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of recovery. But is there anything that people can use
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that is something in the ballpark of a natural supplement
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: or food or herb that has any kind of cognitive
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: enhancement effect.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, and we may have mentioned on a previous podcast,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: but if we haven't, something that works really well for
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: me and what I probably should have done before the
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: podcast because it's so good with my.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Clarity and my thoughts. El theanine is one of my favorites.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It's actually something that is more for when.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: You're It increases the deep wave patterns in the brain.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: So often people think about it with sleep because you
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: get a bit more deep sleep, but actually when you're
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: really dressed, or you're anxious, or you've got lots on,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: which often happens when you're a bit tired, like when
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: we jumped on the podcast and we've had a million
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: things going on, elthenine just helps calm things down. But
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: it's not a sedative. It's actually not a sedative. It
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: actually helps with clarity. And when I love Healthanine before
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I do presentations because I do always get a bit nervous.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: People say you don't look nervous.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I am, But when I have Lthanine, I actually do
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: notice the difference. And as you were just talking about
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: all this is like why I didn't I have any
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: before coming on here, because it just helps me just
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: be a bit sharper with my with my thoughts. It
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: just takes a bit of that fuzz away. So I
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: love Lthanine. Another one is bu Copa.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Can you eate one sec? I just want to before
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: we finish and go on. Is Lthanine an amino acid,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: it is it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit like that.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: So, but it's coming from it's a plant extract, mainly
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: in green tea, and so you know, when people talk
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: about the benefits of green tea, they're often talking about
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: you know, lthenine as well some of the antioxidants. But
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: in interestingly they think in plants. It's actually to help
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: with plants with a stress response as well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: So and then we take it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So where one, I'm asking for me, not for any
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: of our audience. So if I wanted to take it,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know what I'm about. I'm
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: eighty kilos By the way, what how much would I take?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Where do I get it?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Is it a pill? Is it liquid? Is it? What
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: is it?
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: So?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Typically where do I get it? How much do I take?
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: So you could pop in?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I always recommend at least chatting to a pharmacist, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: popping into the chemist. There's usually someone there that's knowledgeable
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: in all the supplements. So if you don't have a
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: health practitioner, chat to your pharmacist, ask them for LC
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: and they'll have a range of different brands, Lots of
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: different companies offer it, but at least if you're speaking
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: to the pharmacist, it's going to be a good one
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: that's TGA.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Approved in Australia.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: If you buy something online, you just don't know where
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: it's from all that kind of stuff. So I always
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: think of about getting it from a practitioner, at least
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: that the pharmacists to start with, so you know you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: getting a reputable brand.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You also don't even know if you're getting what you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: think you're getting, Like if you buy it online, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: forget the number, but it's very like if it says
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams of whatever, it almost never is because
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: there's no way for you to know unless you go
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: get it laboratory tested.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Good luck with that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: There's no way for you to know if what it
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: says on the outside of the bottle or the packet
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: is what you're actually putting in your body one hundred percent.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: And there are many studies where they've looked.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: At supplements and there aren't the levels. Sometimes it's much less,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: there's hardly anything. Other times it's much more. And what
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: you've got to be careful of is these brands that
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: we don't know, even if they've got fantastic marketing, they
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: can have what are known as excipients, other little things
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: fillers and stuff like that that actually aren't good for you,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: so you want In Australia, we're quite lucky. We have
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: well lucky that could go off on a holidside that
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I won't talk about.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: The TGA. They could be a pain in some ways,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: but they are quite strict.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: So anything that has approval from our Therapeutic Goods Association.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: So something stocked in a pharmacist, you know it's got
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: if they're going to have TGA approved things, so that
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: we know that they've been tested, the ingredients are safe.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I mean we're obous talking about then, and I'm telling
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: you about something, but there might be another product you're
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: looking at. So I would pop into the pharmacy. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: would chat to them and ask them, tell them you're
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: interested in this product. They can tell you what brands
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: they have. From a dosic perspective, from the dosages are
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: one hundred or two hundred milligrams.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: For you, Craig, who's really busy at exercising, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: you know your weight and everything, and also for me
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: personally when I'm really thinking about using it for performance.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I don't really get.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Those effects that I just told you about until it
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: hits four hundred milligrams. Now, I know that's a little
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: bit higher than what recommended, but often on the bottle
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: they're giving you just a little low dose.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: But if you're doing it just for helping you with
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: your sleep, as I said, getting your deep sleep or
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a bit of calming, that two hundred milligrams is enough
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: that if you're doing it because you're getting up and
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: you're doing a presentation, or you're in a podcast, or
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you just really need to just get your head together.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You know you're at UNI, you're obviously finishing your PhD.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Then I would be going that four hundred milligrams. That's
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: still not getting to a dose that's that's dangerous. But again,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: don't take this from me. I would talk to your
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: health practition or the pharmacist. Get it from the pharmacist,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: and know what they tell you for that specific product.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Is something interesting. I read this the other day.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I just brought it up again on AI to try
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and it's a bit of discrepancy over But so these
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: are all university studies where they tested how much creatine
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: is in creatine gummies. And at least at least fifty
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: percent of the creatine gummies have no creatine.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, so Creatin's obviously another one that's really good.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Did I tell you about my story of trying to
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: have fifteen grams at one go and actually did it twice?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: And both times I was not. I was like all dizzy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And have you had high dose creatine in one go?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I have it every day, every day milligram fifteen gram
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: sorry in one go?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, generally probably ten or twelve grams,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: which is like two heaped teaspoons, but.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I've had twenty grams. Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: But also I think, like everything again, everyone not a recommendation,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and why would why do I take creatine?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Not for you know, extra.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Reps in the gym, although that doesn't hurt, But there's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence to suggest that, as Denise is suggesting,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: there's a cognitive benefit, more like cognitive endurance and focus
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and clarity. Yeah, so definitely I find that. So it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: ironic that I used to take creatine because I was
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a bullfed training Yeah, and now because I'm trying to
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: be less of a I'm taking creating.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: I remember taking it and honestly, I could, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: run further, you know, when I was injured and.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Things like that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I was a bit anti creatine for so long because
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I was using it for the wrong reasons. I was
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: using it to push myself when I was already fatigued,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and because I did get something from it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: But I now use it for a different reason.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: And I am quite a chat to my clients and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: patients and say, we're not using this to increase performance,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: particularly if you've got some health issues. We don't want
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: you to overtrain because it's going to make things worse.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: But from a cognitive perspective, the higher.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Dose it has been shown to cross the blood brain
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: barrier and be really helpful with cognition. However, this is
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: a reason why you should go and chat to your
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: farmer st or have a practitioner. Because even though I
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: hear these things on podcasts and there's all this stuff,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I had fifteen.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So it said that it also helps.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Get rid of jet lag. Well, I am someone that
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: has jet lag all the time. So I got home, Great,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have my fifteen gram's going to get
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: rid of my jet lag. No, I felt a little
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: bit dizzy. Is at the word, but just not right
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: in my head. And then i'd slight nausea and I
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't feel great. Interesting, and I thought, okay,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: that's a one off. Don't judge it on one off.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: So then I had at the second time felt exactly
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: the same. What I haven't done, though, is try a
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: different brand. So I'm using a high quality Australian straight
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: creatine powder. There's nothing in it's from a an Australian. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I won't say the brands, but anyway, it is a
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: very high quality practitioner only actually not that you need
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: a practitioner only one.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: So I don't think there's anything nasty in it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: But what I need to do, because it's been about
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: twelve months since I tried it, is get a different brand.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: But I can have five grams. But again, the five
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: grams doesn't take away my jet lag. I don't notice
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the cognitive stuff. Do you notice so with lth and
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: when I have four hundred milligrams, I personally works wonders
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: for me. Do you have fifteen milligrams order that high
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: dose of creatine.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: And you notice it? You actually can feel the difference,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: think differently, you're on your.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Show one hundred.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: So I feel like this is probably not true, but
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a little bit smarter. But the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: few times that and I've spoken about this that I've
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: likened this is a person who's never had a cigarette.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But the times that I've taken not a recommendation everyone.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I've taken two milligram chewing gum, nicotine or nicorette or
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: whatever at one hundred percent, I can absolutely tell. And
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it's not a placebo because I've done things before where
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to work and I got
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: fucking nothing. So my expectation doesn't necessarily create a response.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, where So the funny thing is for me,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it's about one and a half hours where everything's just clearer,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: My recalls better, you know, my articulation of things is better.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Bah bah bah. It's about an hour and a half
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to two.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So if I have say which I offer and have,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I've got to speak at a function at night and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I've been up since five and I'm.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Speaking at seven thirty.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, on a typical day, I'm just like
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: my brain's just putting itself to bed and just fucking
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: pulling the blankets up over its prefrontal cortex and going
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: giving a finger to the world, right, And yeah, so
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I will have as I'm driving in or maybe even
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: maybe even five or ten minutes before I speak. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes will do that, and for me it works. Again,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I do shit that works for me, like I had
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: two meals a day. I wouldn't recommend it to everybody.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't had a job for forty years. I wouldn't
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: recommend it to anybody now. And then I take a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: bit of nicotine because it works for me. But you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like I would say this year, not this year, because
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I've done you know, fuck all. But probably in the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: last twelve months, I've done three bits of gum, So
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: this is definitely not a habit, right. And another thing
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that I've used, which I spoke about before, my dafinol,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: which I've probably used six times in my life. But yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: again that's I don't even want to tell you on air,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that just is for me. That's a fucking
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: game changer. Yeah, like our game changer. That's why I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: don't use it because I maybe have addictive tendencies and.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I could get used to this, and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to so bad to be relying on it. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and again. But the thing is, it's like, here's the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: thing you're talking about. You had fifteen grams and cretin
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: and you've got this response. I was saying, I have
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: fifteen grams. I have a totally different response.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: But you know, I've given people who've never had careateine.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'd say, look, take this, that's like fucking thirty grams.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I'd give them a bit of mine or whatever, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'd take that and do like ten grams three days
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: in a row. And the first day they'd ring me
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and go, I've got a horrible fucking game. And it's
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: like it gives them a horrible gut. Say the next person,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: they do not even notice it, So it's it's less Well,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of course, it's about what we're putting in our body,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: but it's also very much about how our physiology interacts
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: with that whatever it is we're digesting, absorbing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: See, even something as basic as magnesium.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: You know, we can use magnesium as a laxative because
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: some people really gets their vowels moving.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Some people.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: But you know, I have had little she was tiny
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: and ballet, professional ballet dancer, but she was having a
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: gram like so, you know, we're usually most magnesium supplement
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: about one hundred and fifty milligrams, so had her on
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: our whole gram, you know, over a thousand milligrams, but that's.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: What she needed.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: She was stressed, she was a bit anxious, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: her level of exercise. That was really helpful for her.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: But someone else would have four hundred milligrams and they
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: would get the runs. So you know, different people respond
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: in different ways. By the way, you know, a gram
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: of magnesium is a lot. I'm definitely not recommending that
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: that was a unique person in that situation. Definitely want
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: to be working with how health practitioner if you want
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: to start to think about using things therapeutically high dose
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and most often I don't recommend high dose, but it
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: is important to note how we respond differently and when
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you see something online and you see what you were.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Talking about the start.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: If we go back to the question the social media stuff,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: it's not good for everyone. We're all different, and you
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: need to be really careful what you put in your body,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: really careful and try to choose quality things, be confident
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: that you're getting what you're actually wanting, and the other one.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I wanted to mention too.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: If we're thinking about stress cognition is bu copa, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: that's often in some of the neotropics, and I do
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: give a nootropic kind of powdery teething to some of
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: my clients. They're worried about cognition and it's got bu
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: copa in it. And we have a lot of studies
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: with bu copa, again a herbal extract.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: A lot of the herbalist and naturopaths have been using it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: For a long time, but now it's becoming popular with
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: the cognition and I also so I'm interested in it
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: because there are some studies to show that it's helpful
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: with reducing cognitive decline, and that's obviously an area I'm
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: interested in me being predisposed to Alzheimer's, But there's also
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of studies with stress showing that bu copa
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: can actually help people with just managing their stress levels.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And I think often when we are thinking that we
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: can't get.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Our thoughts together and all that stuff, there is just
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: because there's this bit of underlying stress, So managing that stress.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Obviously there's a lifestyle stuff as well, but if you
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: can take a supplement here or there that's natural, that
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: doesn't have side effects, that's not addictive. You're lcnin, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a bit of creatine. If it works for you, work
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: out what dose is right, you know, be COPA or
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: some of these things.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, we do have a lot of evidence that
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: they work.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so yes, and I think that, you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about one of my friends who
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I saw a dude on the weekend that's five to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: ten coffees a day. I'm like, dude, I would be dead,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and he goes. I can go to bed with a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and I sleep like a baby. Right.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: And another one of my past another delizer of caffeine.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Some people are fast metabolizers of genetics. And these people
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: are actually known to often drink more coffee, but they
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: actually process it really quicker, quicker than there are some
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: people that just couldn't tolerate that much caffeine. It wouldn't
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: matter what they tried genetically, biologically, they're not able to
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was going to mention another friend who
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: has one and if they have two, they get anxiety.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll have a second.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: One, I'll be right, and then they just get anxiety
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and slight, and it's got to be one a day,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and it's got to be early. I like, if they
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have it at midday, they're fucked. If they have it
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: at seven am, they're all right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: So and of course I can't put everything onto genetics,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: but I'm almost guessing their genetics.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: And you should never guess genetics because you never know.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: But I would say that person is a slow metabolizer.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: So there's a phase one enzyme called SIP one A
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: one one A two, and it metabolizes not there's sick
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: one A two is ninety percent of the caffeine.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: So some people are fast or slow that first.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Enzyme they whiz it through or they're really slow. So
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: if you whiz it through, but the slow metabolizers, it's
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: going through slowly. And then we have another enzyme called
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: compt thattually helps us break down our adrenaline. And then
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: some people are slow at breaking down adrenaline because caffeine
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: causes a bit of cortisol, bit of adrenaline.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: So if you're putting that in, you're slow at the coffee.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: And then you're also slow when it comes to clearing
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: your adrenaline. You're not so good with dealing with the stress.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: It's all those things. And it's not just genetics. That
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: COMPT that I just told you about. That is the
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: actual enzyme that breaks down adrenaline. It relies on magnesium.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: You don't have enough magnesium.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: That doesn't work. That's why we give magnesium for stress,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: big vitamins, all that stuff, all that fun stuff.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I feel fifteen percent dumber every time I talk to you.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But thanks, thanks for that. I'm not sure what you said.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I'll have to ask chat GPT you later when I
• 46:51
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• 47:22
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  Speaker 2: We know, can I say now? I don't want to say,
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• 47:31
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  Speaker 1: new tropic. It's but how I hope that the rest
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: of your night goes okay.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I hope your brain works.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad we had this conversation because I have
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: such a busy day and I initially didn't have the
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: podcast sladed in here. I am going off to have
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: my LFA, I'm going to have some creatine. This has
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: actually made.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Me go, yes, this is what I need to get
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: me through the next couple of hours. So thanks for that.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Just remind me again you think I should have how
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: much a day give or take.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Elth and I, because you're using it really for the
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: mental clarity, I'd have four hundred milligrams.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're not a tracker, are you. You don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: track your rem or your deep sleep or anything.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Nah. No, it would just give me more shit to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: worry about.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I just go not fuck it. I would become like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a fucking deer in the headlights. I'd just be looking
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: at that shit all day.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I like it, to be honest.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: The whoop gave me less anxiety because I labeled myself
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: as a bad sleeper.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: And I realize I'm not a bad sleeper anymore. But
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I've worked on sleep. Oh you know what I have
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: not told you.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: We should have talked about this at the beginning of
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the podcast. Is getting excited and we're just about to
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: wrap it up after doing the last podcast with you.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: We're not just about to we're wrapping it up.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: After the last podcast. I said to you, I'm a
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: good sleeper.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I'm perimenopausal, and I'm this and I travel and I'm
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: so amazing, and I work on my sleep. I for
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks was waking up at two
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: in the morning, three in the morning, four in the morning,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: and I was like, what is that?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Everything's back to normal, but isn't it interesting? Just
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: don't get too copy anyone, because then life will just
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: throw something at you. And I don't exactly know what
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: the difference was. I thought I'd nailed this sleep stuff.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But it's hilarious. That's calm of kicking you in the
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: sleep cycle.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: It was it was like, don't get ahead of yourself. Girl,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Like what I was going to say to you.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Settle down, professor.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my whoo.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: I track, and I know that I sleep well most
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: nights but the lth and if you are listening to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: this and you do like that bit of data, actually
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: see if it works for you. Have it at night,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: because I do get more deep sleep when I have
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the LC and and it's nice to be to be
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: able to track these things. If you're not a tracker,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: just pay attention to how you feel. Like Craig said,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: feels better with the creteen.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm shutting up now. I can see you
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: looking at me.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you something funny?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: As a host, one of the funniest things that guests
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: say is if you are listening. I'm like, literally, everyone
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that's listening is listening, and if they're not listening, they
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: won't hear you. So if you are listening, listeners, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: love that. Hey, how can people connect with you? Find you?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And I feel like you're.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Too busy to get back to people.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: By god, I'm sorry everyone. I wasn't taking any patients
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I know that there's a lot of people on the
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: wait list, but I'm doing a lot less international travel,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: focusing on the business. Midyear, I will be trying to
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: open up a little bit. But obviously we've got the
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: retreat and doing a few in person events. So you
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: can look up my name the website and come over
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: to the Facebook group. I'm not doing as much in there,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: but jump on the email list and see what's happening,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: or you know, jump on the weight list if you
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: want to come to the Sunshine Coast and see us.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: In person, and if you don't, that's fine, we still
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: love you.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also there might be some other stuff happening after
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the weekend. We'll see.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: We'll talk off air. But you're the best. I'm the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: second best.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Chuck out the rest.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: No, we're not choking, thanks tooff We'll see you next time.