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Macy Gray Unplugged: 25 Years of Soul, Stories, and Surprises · Shawna and LaLa: Life Beyond The Mic

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  Speaker 1: From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
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  Speaker 1: the rhythm of your day. It's Shawna m.
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  Speaker 2: What's up. You're listening to Shauna and Lala. Check us
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  Speaker 2: out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all social
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  Speaker 2: media platforms at Shauna and Laala. You could follow me
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram at the Real Shawna May.
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  Speaker 3: And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one two five.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a few weeks since we've been on air.
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  Speaker 2: I think everything is just happening all at once. You
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  Speaker 2: were sick, Geo was sick. Julina was sick. I was sick,
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  Speaker 2: but Geo was sick for like a good three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He when he gets sick, he gets sick. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's no way in between for him. He's
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  Speaker 3: never just oh it's just a little cold. His immune
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  Speaker 3: system is so bad. Julina hermione systems amazing, so she
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  Speaker 3: only had for a few days, like a little cold.
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  Speaker 3: But Geo, he high fevers, horrible, sore throat, just drained,
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  Speaker 3: and then he lost hearing in his ears, which I
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  Speaker 3: was freaking out about. And he's never had My kids
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  Speaker 3: have never had ear infections. You know, some kids like
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  Speaker 3: always get ear infection. Yeah, yeah, my kids have never
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  Speaker 3: had an ear infection. So he was screaming that his
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  Speaker 3: ear was hurting, like screaming in pain. And I was
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  Speaker 3: freaking out because I've never been through this as a parent.
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  Speaker 3: But and then he lost hearing, Like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: my kid's gonna be deaf. What happened? So I had
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  Speaker 3: to take him to the E and T and they
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  Speaker 3: did an hearing test on him and they said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he can hear, but it's very it's like not at
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  Speaker 3: the cape, it's not where it should be, and there's
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  Speaker 3: fluid behind the ear. So he had an ear infection.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so that was three weeks of him being sick.
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  Speaker 3: He's finally better, thank god. And my daughter's great and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get it as bad as him. So but
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  Speaker 3: then it's you know, at the time of year, like
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  Speaker 3: we say, school starts and the germs just come in
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  Speaker 3: the house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and now that fall is here, it's allergy
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  Speaker 2: season for me. Fall and winter is like the worst
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  Speaker 2: for me. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike's my husband, says the same thing because he
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  Speaker 3: has bad allergies. It's like, yeah, all in winter, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. And when it rains. When it rains, his
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  Speaker 3: allergies are through the roof too, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, and like the headaches that I've
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  Speaker 2: been having have been just insane. Yeah, like the past
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  Speaker 2: I'd say two months, I went to the doctors. They
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  Speaker 2: put me on a new medication specifically for the margarines,
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  Speaker 2: and it did absolutely nothing. So I'm back at.
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  Speaker 3: Score one yep, as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy though, but I can't believe fall this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be Halloween soon. And then what did
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  Speaker 2: we went shopping today and what did they say?
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  Speaker 3: Seventy one day? I told us. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh, I feel like it was just Christmas yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm it's really depressing. And I know when your parent,
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  Speaker 3: Christmas is exciting again for different reasons, like you watch
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  Speaker 3: your kid experience it. But I'm just not looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to the stress of the holidays, you know. It's just
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  Speaker 3: it's it's so stressful. And I always wonder was it
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  Speaker 3: distressful for our parents back in the day, or is
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  Speaker 3: just life has changed so much that it's it's very
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  Speaker 3: stressful now. I don't know. I wish I could ask
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  Speaker 3: my mom like, hey, how was it really stressful for you?
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  Speaker 3: Because this is like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Would your dad know or did your mom do all
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  Speaker 2: the shops?
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  Speaker 3: My dad wouldn't know. Crap, my mom did everything. My
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  Speaker 3: dad he didn't know what we were getting. He didn't
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  Speaker 3: wrap a gift, he didn't make a meal. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's that and watch TV, so he wouldn't know. He'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, it was great, there was no stress.
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  Speaker 3: That would be his answer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my dad's answer too, probably, But.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not I'm just dreading that winter's here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like winter. I know you don't either, So no,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the other part of Christmas. The negative
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  Speaker 3: is like knowing, yeah, Christmas is exciting, but along with
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  Speaker 3: it comes the cold, the snow, the ice, the darkness,
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  Speaker 3: the depression January February March of just being bitter and
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  Speaker 3: ugly out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, and it's the cold that I
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  Speaker 2: don't like. If it was warm and snowing, I would
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  Speaker 2: be fine.
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  Speaker 3: Warm and snowing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, but in my head, if
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  Speaker 2: it was warm out and snowing, I would be happy.
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  Speaker 2: It's the cold that really bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the cold though, but yeah, the cold just it
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  Speaker 2: just dues me in. Yeah, like I am just done,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like if it's cold next week, Usually Halloween
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  Speaker 2: is really cold.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tit or miss. Some years it's like it's decent,
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  Speaker 3: and in other years it's it's just like bone chilling.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I wonder what it's gonna be like this year.
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  Speaker 2: You never know. Mother nature is just bipolar this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with all the rain that we had, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: thought we were really getting a storm.
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  Speaker 3: Well it hit. It hit like Long Island. It hit
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  Speaker 3: the city more than it hit us because we're further north.
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  Speaker 3: So they, like my cousin today from Long Island said
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  Speaker 3: it ripped out trees in her yard. So they got
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  Speaker 3: hit really bad. But you know, they're closer to the ocean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and hopefully, you know, it's an easy winter for us.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm going to Colorado this week and I'm
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  Speaker 3: hearing the weather there is just bipolar too, and that's
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  Speaker 3: just natural for them. One day it'll be eighties and
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  Speaker 3: then the next day it's in the forties and it's snowing,
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  Speaker 3: and then the next day it's back in the seventies.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, what do I bring? How do I dress?
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  Speaker 2: You're just gonna have to bring your whole closet exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what's gonna happen. And my husband's gonna
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna kill me. So backtracking to the cold, I
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  Speaker 3: just realized the only good thing this year that you
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  Speaker 3: have is when you get that bone chilling chill that
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  Speaker 3: you get in the winter, Like I get. You have
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  Speaker 3: your sauna, now I do.
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  Speaker 2: I have my sauna Clear Light, which we absolutely love.
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  Speaker 2: Their personal red Light tower. They have an actual sauna.
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  Speaker 2: So I got one, and I am obsessed with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in it every time I come here, Like
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  Speaker 3: where shauna? Oh, she's in the sauna.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the sauna. I mean, you just gotta like
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  Speaker 2: pry me out of it. I use it every single night.
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  Speaker 2: I have a routine and I use the sauna. I
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  Speaker 2: take a shower, I go up, I eat dinner, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I go to bed. And it has helped
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  Speaker 2: me so much. I can't get over how much it's
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  Speaker 2: helped me.
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  Speaker 3: They say, it's so so good for you, good for
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  Speaker 3: every aspect of your health and your mental and emotional health.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you got this and that you're
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  Speaker 3: doing it, because you know, when the medical world isn't
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  Speaker 3: helping you, sometimes we need to go backwards into the
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  Speaker 3: holistic stuff. The more natural.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wise, I say, in there for twenty to thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Temperature one hundred and.
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  Speaker 2: Seven to one hundred and something. I forget what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take a picture of it next time. Yeah, of
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  Speaker 2: the degrees. But uh, yeah, I love it. And I
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  Speaker 2: could turn it on from my cell phone. Or I
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  Speaker 2: could say, hey, clear light and I could say turn
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  Speaker 2: on and it'll turn on. Or I could say yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's voice activated. Or I could say turn inside lights on,
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  Speaker 2: and it'll turn the inside lights on. And then it
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  Speaker 2: also has like these outside glowy lights, and I could
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  Speaker 2: say turn the outside lights on for like a little
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  Speaker 2: like ambonce. Oh my god, I love it. It hooks
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  Speaker 2: up to your cell phone, so I could play my
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  Speaker 2: music in the.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah song to play some relax that's that's. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 3: having a bad day, you need a mental health break,
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  Speaker 3: Go in there, put some relaxing music on, and I'd
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  Speaker 3: be listening to like Indian flutes and chanting and zending out.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not a huge sauna person. I feel I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I can't breathe in them. But that someone
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  Speaker 3: said that's because I've only gone into like the steam
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  Speaker 3: saunas where it's just that the air is heavy. So
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  Speaker 3: I need to try it more of a dry air sauna.
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  Speaker 2: This is totally different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you sweat, and you sweat a lot, but
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  Speaker 2: you could breathe in it. Like I could probably fall
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  Speaker 2: asleep and be fine. That's crazy, although I just don't
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  Speaker 2: sleep anywhere. And I have to say that Leo he
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  Speaker 2: even loves it. Yeah, yeah, he just he cracks me up.
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  Speaker 2: He just stands outside and just stares at me when
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  Speaker 2: I'm in it, and you know, so sometimes I'll open
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  Speaker 2: up the door for him, and obviously when it's off,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I get out and I let him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: go in it and you know, jump around, and he
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  Speaker 2: just he loves it. He just ends up sitting on
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  Speaker 2: the bench and he just like takes it all in.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: He's another one. He hates winter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to get warm in here.
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  Speaker 2: He hates being cold. So it works for both of us.
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  Speaker 2: So how's your Connoli business going. I know that you
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  Speaker 2: were featured in a magazine.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's been non stop, which is a good thing,
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  Speaker 3: but especially like this week, I feel so overwhelmed. It's hard,
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  Speaker 3: you know, being a mom, having a side business and
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  Speaker 3: I work a full time job. I have so much
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  Speaker 3: going on that I you know, it's hard to juggle
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  Speaker 3: it all, but I'm doing it. So I'm so proud
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  Speaker 3: of myself. This is a funny story. I was just
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  Speaker 3: at a wedding this this weekend, this past weekend and
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  Speaker 3: you know, serving my canoli, and my husband's like, when
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  Speaker 3: you get a second, I need you to check the
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  Speaker 3: ring footage. I was like what, He's like, just just
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  Speaker 3: do it and you're gonna laugh. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So I go on my camera when I had a second,
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  Speaker 3: and I go back and check the ring footage and
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  Speaker 3: oh my god. So my dog, you know, came in.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting old. He's getting old, he's getting a little ornery,
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  Speaker 3: and he can't really run well. He's a big, big dog.
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  Speaker 3: He's weighs probably about almost eighty pounds. And my son
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  Speaker 3: it's his job when he comes home from school, like
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  Speaker 3: or wherever, he has to walk the dog. So he
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  Speaker 3: was in the garage. The garage door is shut. He
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  Speaker 3: has his little Yorki and he has Cayman, and he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to get their leashes on. And we live on
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  Speaker 3: four acres, so it's like if he opens the garage
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  Speaker 3: and Cayman walks out, it's not a big deal. He
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  Speaker 3: doesn't run away. So Geo opened the garage door as
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  Speaker 3: he's getting the leash on the Yorki, and then he
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  Speaker 3: was going to get Cayman's leash, and Geo didn't know
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  Speaker 3: that there was an Amazon driver in my driveway and
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  Speaker 3: the Amazon guy was around the front. So Cayman starts
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  Speaker 3: walking out of the garage and the Amazon driver doesn't
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  Speaker 3: know that Cayman's there, and the Amazon driver just runs
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  Speaker 3: right in front of him, just naturally running to his car,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing there's a dog there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he so now he.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't see the dog. He saw the dog once came
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  Speaker 3: in and started barking and running at him. So all
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  Speaker 3: Camean sees is the stranger man. Cayman's very protective of
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  Speaker 3: my children, like he is their guard dog, so he
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  Speaker 3: just sees Geo's behind him. He sees a strange man
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  Speaker 3: run right in front of them, and he ran after
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  Speaker 3: the guy and thank god camean's old and can't run fast.
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  Speaker 3: But this guy turns, looks at him like oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: and books it towards his Amazon van. And this is
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  Speaker 3: where it's crazy. He had his window, his driver's side
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  Speaker 3: window open in the Amazon van, which is high right.
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  Speaker 3: This freaking guy was so scared he free willied it.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm calling it. He free willied it into
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  Speaker 3: that freaking window. Like he jumped in the air, tucked
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  Speaker 3: his arms on his side, and like a dolphin, went
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  Speaker 3: into the van window like that. If anyone would have
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  Speaker 3: told me this story or explained it, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, you're exaggerating, okay, yeah, right, he probably climbed
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  Speaker 3: in the window. No, thank god it had the footage.
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  Speaker 3: He dove and he like flew and his body just
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  Speaker 3: went like.
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  Speaker 2: It was the perfect jump.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And you know, I call it free Willy because
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  Speaker 3: if any of my nineties babies out there, you saw
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  Speaker 3: a free Willy. Remember the end with the whale Willie.
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  Speaker 3: He has to escape from the bad guys and he
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  Speaker 3: jumps over the rocks and he goes die. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he dives right over the rocks. So that's what the
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  Speaker 3: guy reminded me of So I made a video. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to put it on our Instagram and show
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  Speaker 3: you guys how funny it was. And I put the
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  Speaker 3: Free Willy soundtrack like from Michael Jackson behind it, and
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  Speaker 3: I slowed it down as he's diving, Like, dude, it
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  Speaker 3: was hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't get over the jump like it was
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  Speaker 2: just it was perfect. It was a perfect jump, like
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  Speaker 2: he didn't hit like one bone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Once he got in the window, you hear the horn going, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I might go. My husband's like, why was he beeping.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like the dog's gonna jump in the window,
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  Speaker 3: I said, Mike, he wasn't meaning to beep. That's his
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  Speaker 3: body contorted when he jumped through the window. His body's
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  Speaker 3: hitting the steering wheel. Yeah, but my husband ran out.
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  Speaker 3: My son's like, I'm sorry, And because he's really nice,
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  Speaker 3: he's really friendly, my son says, the guy's like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: but the guys started laughing. He says. He said to
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  Speaker 3: my husband, I didn't know I could jump like that.
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  Speaker 3: I guess when you're afraid, you could do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things. But it's great. You guys gotta see it.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta I have it on my TikTok and we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna post it on our Instagram. But you have to
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  Speaker 3: watch it. It's great.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely a classic. I don't know how it didn't
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  Speaker 2: go viral.
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  Speaker 3: It's the algorithm, like because that that stuff is so
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  Speaker 3: it is so funny, like that should go viral just
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  Speaker 3: for how insane that guy was able to jump in
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  Speaker 3: the air and dive like a dolphin through that window.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely insane. But hey, maybe everyone's extended to hell America's
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  Speaker 3: funniest home videos. I'm like, do they still have that?
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  Speaker 3: Is that still a thing that was huge when we
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  Speaker 3: were kids? But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know either.
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  Speaker 3: They must, yeah they might. I mean I think what's
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  Speaker 3: his name runs it? Alfonso Rivieriro. I think that's his
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  Speaker 3: last name, but I think he runs it. So I'll
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  Speaker 3: have to check into it and see if I could
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  Speaker 3: send the video in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would definitely win.
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  Speaker 3: I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So so this show, I feel like we're taking a
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  Speaker 2: trip down memory lane to the nineties. So I thought
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  Speaker 2: it would be fitting to have Macy Gray on the
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  Speaker 2: show today. She's coming to Bethel Woods November eighth. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so excited.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I She was a huge part of my
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  Speaker 3: young younger teen years. I'm not gonna say my childhood,
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  Speaker 3: but my teen years. When she came out with I Try,
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  Speaker 3: that was just such. It was a crazy Everyone loved
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  Speaker 3: that song. Everyone was singing that song. It was a
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  Speaker 3: bubbly song. My mom loved Macy Gray, loved her. My
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: mom always loved singers with unique she always called it
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  Speaker 3: unique voices, and Macy Gray was one of her favorites,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just like Racy Chapman, was Carol Bay or Sager,
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the singers who had that unique just
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  Speaker 3: you heard them in full voice. Yeah, that you when
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  Speaker 3: you hear the voice, there is no mistake and like,
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  Speaker 3: that is Macy Gray or that is that person. So
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  Speaker 3: I grew up with my mom always playing Macy Gray.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a funny story that I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 3: Macy when we talked to her about my mom and
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  Speaker 3: her song I Try.
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  Speaker 2: But on the phone today we have an amazing singer.
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  Speaker 2: Me and Laala grew up listening to you. Uh, Macy
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  Speaker 2: Gray is on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we both grew up listening. I remember like being
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  Speaker 2: on the school boss just rocking out like tutor music.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it shows our age.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For me, whenever I think of Macy Gray or hear
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  Speaker 3: her song, it might've been my late mom. My mom
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  Speaker 3: loved you. She loved you, and it was thank She
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  Speaker 3: was one of those people who thought, you said, I
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  Speaker 3: blow bubbles when you're not near or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I heard a few times. I'm like, how does
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  Speaker 1: that make it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And she when she found out the real lyrics, it
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  Speaker 3: became a big joke, you know, but it was yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, but thank you.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: You are celebrating twenty five years in the industry. That
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: is just crazy.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: That's a hstone, that's milestone. So you are celebrating by
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: doing a really big tour and you were coming here
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: to the Hudson Valley to Bethel Woods on November eighth.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited too. Haven't been to Bethel Woods in ages,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it's been a minute. So well, look, we're really looking
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: forward to We're gonna have a ball, We're gonna have
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the best friend ever. Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's always a party about the woods.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, history there too, It's it's great. It's amazing.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. So what else are you doing to celebrate
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: your twenty five years in the industry?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Oh god, So let's see what am I doing to celebrate? Well, lately,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I've been getting ready for this tour and I'm working
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: on a new album. So I've just been working. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: guess that celebratory a little bit. Yeah, preparing, right, Yeah,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I've just been non stop last like this past month.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: You know, she's in the studio and then and then
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: we have our soho on Friday and Saturday. So uh
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, she's doing my thing. I don't know. Yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to a wedding on Saturday. I don't know.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Just having fun. That's all you have to do, right, Yeah, exactly.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it gets exhausting though, all the traveling and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the interviews, the interviews, and yeah, it's gotta be I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: know you you were on my friend's morning show this morning,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and I think it was like four a m.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Your time, so.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I can imagine like you are probably exhausted.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I do, well, I think you know what. I think.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You know how you get in a rhythm, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and you get on autopilot. So then then your body
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to know about being exhausted because it just
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: goes you know what I mean. It's like a factory
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. Yeah, I think my body has turned
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: into a factory. So if I'm tired, sometimes I'm tired
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't even know it until I pass out,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what has been the biggest, uh lesson that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you've learned in the twenty five years of being in
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the industry?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You know what? Just be good to people. I know
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that sounds corny, but it just but people remember, you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like people would remember and you just you just you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: want to be somebody that that that when when they
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like when they remember stuff, when they remember you, that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they think of good things, you know what I mean,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Because I know, like we're taught to, you know, be
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: honest and be ourselves. And but I think if on
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the way you're you're hurting people, then then maybe you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: you you would just you know, and you try to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: do better. But yeah, I just I just you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I just like not now that I'm older, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I only hang out with people that that made me
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: feel good, you know what I mean, And and it
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: just it just matters you know, and and so I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: just tell people that because that's that that should be
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: easy to do, but.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It's not all the time.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I know it's that all the time, but it's important.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I think I love that I do because people.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You think of anyone in your life that talk to
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you nasty or treated you bad, you're going to remember
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that about them, and anytime their name comes up, you're
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: going to remember that. But and it goes the other
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: way too. If someone's kind to you, they go out
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: there way for you there, you're going to remember them
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: for that. So it's very true.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, you might not say anything, but
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: people who don't treat you you don't you don't want
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to do nothing for him. You know. They'd be like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm homeless and I don't have no money, and you'd
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: be like, oh.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad, keep on walking.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there's of course a million lessons
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I learned, but that's one of them. How about you?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: What do you?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: What do you guys? What's what's your wisdom moment?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh boy?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: We always say never to judge a book by its cover,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and that's corny too, but we both have disabilities and
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: people have looked at us and judged us because of that,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and you know, then once they get to know us,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: like wow, you know, I didn't think you were capable
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of that. I didn't think this or that. So we
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: we always try never to judge anybody before getting to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: know them.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know what it's you miss out on
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: so much when you when you when you make make
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: decisions about someone based on you know what what you
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: see for a minute, because it was so were so complicated.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You know, we have so many details, you know, we
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: were all really uh like there's a little interesting little things,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you know. And and so when you when you look
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: at somebody and you say, oh and you make all
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: these you know, judgments, like you say, yeah, you miss
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you miss so much. You know, it's it's actually not
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: very smart. You know.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people, like somebody said a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: while ago, like they're like, you were like so bitchy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You looked at me like you were just such a bitch.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: And I said, I was like, oh my god, I'm
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: so sorry, and they're like no, like, but come to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: find out, like you're a really sweet personal and I'm like, well, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: like I don't know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: You gotta look bad. I just got to get to
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: know people.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I have that like thing U something, But
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: oh I get that too.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Why do you see that? A lot? People say? What
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: do people say? You look mad? And I think my
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: face would just do that, It would just kind of
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: curl up a little bit.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, and I.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't be mad at all.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just keep in thought. Sometimes sometimes I'm just
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: in another world. I'm like, what, I didn't even notice.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry exactly now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: So, being in the industry for twenty five years, how
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: do you stay like authentic and grounded because the industry,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: we know, the industry is always changing and it's cutthroat.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's very cut fatal sometimes yeah, very fake.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So how do you stay grounded and authentic to yourself
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and to your music?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Well, why don't I have kids? There's nothing more. If
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you want to get grounded, go have kids. I'll do
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it for you. And then they do, you know, they
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: just you know, I just don't. I don't know, but
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I just it's just easier to be yourself.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I think I think you have definitely, you know, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: had my times when I was like trying to be
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: somebody else. Or I told you I said things I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: didn't mean, but but you always have to go back
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and clean that up. Or you know, you confuse people
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because you you can. You can be with someone and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: kind of pretend, right, and then you'll be with them
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the next time, and then you forgot how you what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you pretended and then and then and then now you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: want to be yourself and so so now they're they're confused,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and then you're confused because you because you because you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: can't keep up with all these things you're trying to be.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So I think, you know, especially now that I'm older,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just so much uh less stressed, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: just to do your thing and then and then and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and you know there's going to be people that that
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate that and and people that won't. But at least
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you're not confused, you know, lead you don't have seven
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: different personalities because it's hard enough to figure out the one,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So and it's getting older too,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like when you like when you turn fifty, like, oh
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: my god, punch me in the face, and I ever
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: give a fuck, you know what I mean, yep, like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: just remind me, like no bit you're too old for that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, calm down, that's so true.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So you are working on a brand new album. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what is the writing process like for that album and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: are you working on it with anyone special? Are you
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: doing any special luh gust appearances or debuts with anyone?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is this album we actually my
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: label was actually was really insistent on features. He kept saying,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you need features, you need features, so and I had
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I had never really focused on that before. So this
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: album has has quite a few because because at first
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I was mad about it, you know, but then we
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: got some really cool people on it, and and and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm really loving it and and uh, it's just cool
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to collaborate and and you know, get hear the other
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: side of things, you know. So I'll probably do my
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: next album we'll have a bunch of features because I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: just really having fun with it. But yeah, there's quite
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a few. There's there's probably we have at least six
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So this is your So you're saying, this is the
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: first time you really featured other people on your albums.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I've had the features, of course, but I never it
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: was never like a plan. It was never like, yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: let's go out and and get features without and I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: never did that before.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: So now do you pick the people that you want
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: on your album or does the record label for you?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: He had some ideas, but the you know it all,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it usually comes down to people that you know, or
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of features happened. You know, you're at the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: studio and the next door somebody's next door, and then
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you guys start talking and then pretty soon you're making
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a record or you know, you always call your friends
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: first because because you know they'll do it, but you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and then there's there's a lot of features that that
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you see where the labels will put them together, like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like what was that song? I don't know, but like
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like Ariana Grande and I think it was
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the Weekend because they're both on the same label, right,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: so that makes sense for the label. So they all
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: they all come together in the in their own way.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But it's it's a lot smoother with with people that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you already know.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah exactly. But if you could work
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: with anyone in the world, who would you choose to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: work with?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Oh god, there's actually I got two changes on my album.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like like He's one of my I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: don't even know why I like him so much, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I love two changes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And so I DMed him and he hit me back.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: It was amazing.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: He's slim in his dms I did.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know because I was I was, okay,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: do you know his manager? You know when you go
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that route. But I just DMed him and I was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: up three in the morning and I was like, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna hear from him, but fuck it, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and he wrote me back the next day. It was huge.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Literally was screaming and jumping up and down.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I've never reached out to a celebrity in a DM really, Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Probably. We always think they're not going to respond or
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: they don't really try.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they don't run their Instagram or whatever. You know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: they have people that do it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to try that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It's great that it's gotta work it definitely, you can't
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: just be shown.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: So when is the album gonna be out in stores?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking hopefully by Christmas, but if not the new year,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: because you know, years almost over and we're not quite
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: done yet. So probably looking at next year. Okay, well
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: maybe Christmas. I don't know. It used to be like
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a taboo to put out a record around Christmas because
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: unless you were doing a Christmas album, or unless you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: were like you know, Michael Jackson, because you have to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: cut through all the you know, everybody's busy with Christmas.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Every all the radio sessions are playing Christmas songs. But
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: it might be a little different now, I don't, I don't,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even know I.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Have it is different, it seems.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Don't even think CDs really exists anymore. Yeah, yeah, everybody's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: downloading everything, right. You know, my mom just got a
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: new car. Her car doesn't even have a CD player.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this about?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, oh, I know that's what killed it
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: when the cars took them out. But people forget how
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: many there's there's millions of people who don't have internet,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: don't have a yeah too, and especially Europe. CDs are
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: still really really popular. But but yeah, there's a whole uh,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you know population that you know, doesn't give a shit
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: about you know, streaming, and and they still buy CDs
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So yeah, out there, Yeah, well
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that is me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I still buy CDs. I have a CD player. I'm
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: very old fashioned.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: There you go, so but.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see you on November eighth. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: hope tickets are still avail, which I'm sure they are.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: But thank you so much Macie for coming on the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: show today. We had a great time talking with you. Everyone.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Check out Macy Gray. She's gonna be at our favorite venue,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Bethel Woods in Woodstock November eighth, and I believe the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: show starts at eight pm. It's gonna be a great
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: time and I cannot wait. Thank you so much Macie
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: for coming on the show. And when your album is
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: ready to be released, you are more than welcome to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: come back on the show and promote it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I will be there absolutely worthy. Thank you so much.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: And that's our show for this week. Thank you so
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: much for tuning in. Be sure to check out our
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: website Shauna and Lala dot com. Check us out on
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: all social media platforms at Shauna and Laala. You could
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: follow me on Instagram at the real Shauna May and.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Check me out at Belle Underscore Laala one two five.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: We will see you next week.