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Tap That Ass! with Lauren Fonvielle · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

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  Speaker 1: This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
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  Speaker 1: the game of living in and with chronic pain and trauma,
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  Speaker 1: getting to the heart of how to heal. I am
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  Speaker 1: your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
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  Speaker 1: discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
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  Speaker 1: and anybody that is interested in having their voice.
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  Speaker 2: Heard in the chronic pain and trauma world that we
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  Speaker 2: live in.
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  Speaker 1: So over the past decade, I guess I have grieved
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  Speaker 1: more with each passing year over the loss of the
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  Speaker 1: body that I once had, and we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: over and again on this show. I'm grieving over the
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  Speaker 1: energy that I used to bound out of bed with right,
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  Speaker 1: and I grieve over the excitement that I used to
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  Speaker 1: have at the beginning of each day, because each day
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  Speaker 1: offered all of these incredibly wonderful opportunities for me. And
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  Speaker 1: right now, when I hop out of bed, my opportunity
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  Speaker 1: is how am I going to walk from here to
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom?
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  Speaker 3: This is the opportunity that's knocking on my door every day, right,
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  Speaker 3: and my mornings are more difficult each morning, they get
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  Speaker 3: more and every minute by minute that I live in
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  Speaker 3: this bod is a choice that I.
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  Speaker 1: Have to live with, right, And if you cast me
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  Speaker 1: before ten am Pacific standard time, you just better watch out.
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  Speaker 2: And I used to be a morning person. I used
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  Speaker 2: to be up at five am.
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  Speaker 1: I was like I was at clients' offices at five
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. You couldn't pay me to do
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  Speaker 1: anything at five o'clock in the morning because my body
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  Speaker 1: just won't cooperate. And I feel like the energy in
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  Speaker 1: my body is more frenetic than ever. And even though
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  Speaker 1: I'm super fatigued, I can't sleep because I've got like
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  Speaker 1: a parasitic party going on in my body all night long.
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  Speaker 2: Right, talk about an energy party.
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  Speaker 3: I need there's energy to be kiboshed and have positive
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  Speaker 3: energy going through here.
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  Speaker 2: So what is wrecking havoc on my bod?
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  Speaker 1: And I say this all the time on the show,
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  Speaker 1: And we know that the number one reason for me
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  Speaker 1: is stress, hands down one percent. I know it, everybody
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  Speaker 1: in my body knows it, my listeners know it. I
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  Speaker 1: am a big fucking cortisol stress ball. And I like
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  Speaker 1: to top it off with a little bit of grief
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit of insomnia to make my body healing.
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  Speaker 2: Such an incredible challenge.
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  Speaker 1: So with all of the stress and grief that's stuck
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  Speaker 1: in my bod and yours. By the way, this is
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  Speaker 1: from trauma, it's from anxiety, it's from pain, it's from
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  Speaker 1: your husband, it's from your kids, it's from our food,
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  Speaker 1: it's from our politics, it's from all of it. How
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  Speaker 1: do we get that energy? Sucking vampires just like turn
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  Speaker 1: into dust around us?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: And one way is something that we call tapping AKA
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  Speaker 1: is called EFT, which stands for emotional freedom technique and
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  Speaker 1: it's also referred to as a psychological pressure, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: And with the way that my body feels lately, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to bring in a past guest of ours. Actually
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  Speaker 1: we're throwing back to season one, episode twenty three here,
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  Speaker 1: who specializes in EFT, because I want a deeper dive
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  Speaker 1: with her into her practice and how to help us
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  Speaker 1: get our energy flying back again.
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  Speaker 2: Because I know that my needs.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just have just blockage after blockage.
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  Speaker 2: After I can.
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  Speaker 1: Feel it, I can literally feel where things are stuck
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  Speaker 1: in here. So, without further ado, I would like to
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  Speaker 1: reintroduce you to my haughty Toddy guest today Lauren Funville.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, you, hot babe.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me back. I'm excited to be
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  Speaker 4: here with you today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so excited to have you back
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So Lauren is an integrative energy practitioner and certified EFT
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  Speaker 1: trainer that helps the next generation of tapping professionals rise,
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  Speaker 1: not just heal. Her work specializes in guiding high stress,
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  Speaker 1: high performing minds through stress anxiety, stress ball one oh one, anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: chronic pain, and trauma using this EFT, this tapping, and
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  Speaker 1: a unique blend of other science based energetics, which you
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  Speaker 1: know as here on this show, we don't talk about
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  Speaker 1: science at all.
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  Speaker 2: What science.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons that I brought her back on
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  Speaker 1: too is I still get all of her email marketing
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning of time when we first met a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and a lot of her email
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  Speaker 1: marketing had been about grief, and as you know from
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  Speaker 1: the episode that launched season three, there's been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of grief that happened. Why I took a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a pause to kind of regroup with what I
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  Speaker 1: needed to do with my show for myself, my family,
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  Speaker 1: my friends, and so on and so forth. So after
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  Speaker 1: seeing all of your email marketing, I couldn't help but
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  Speaker 1: reach out to you because I felt like it was
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  Speaker 1: an alignment of our energy for you to come back
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  Speaker 1: on and talk about you too and what you've been through.
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  Speaker 1: So rolling out the red carpet for you, babe, I
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  Speaker 1: like to start with why you came back on this
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  Speaker 1: crazy show again.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm kidding, because.
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  Speaker 5: I love you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, of course, that's why you came back on. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to reintroduce EFT. If you are new
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  Speaker 1: here to the show and you don't any thing about tapping,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to reintroduce my audience that has a
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  Speaker 1: send and hasn't what it actually is, how you got
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  Speaker 1: into it, and then we'll kind of take it from there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, EFT is this process of gently tapping on
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  Speaker 4: certain points of the body. And as you're tapping on
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  Speaker 4: these points, you're also speaking out loud and you're acknowledging
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  Speaker 4: how you're feeling. And so, as you mentioned, sometimes it's
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  Speaker 4: called psychological like acupressure because you're applying gentle pressure to
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  Speaker 4: some of those same points that if you were to
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  Speaker 4: go to an acupuncturist that they would put the needles
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  Speaker 4: in at the meridians the right where so the points
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  Speaker 4: are the end points of the meridians, and that's how
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  Speaker 4: our energy moves through the through the body, and how
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  Speaker 4: it helps to reduce the amount of cortisol in the
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  Speaker 4: body too. So which is insane, which is yeah, which
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  Speaker 4: is that stress that stress formone. So tapping on that
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  Speaker 4: sends a message to the brain telling me to chill
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  Speaker 4: out a little bit, and you start to feel start
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  Speaker 4: to feel a little more grounded, a little a little calmer.
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  Speaker 4: And it can be used proactively as part of your
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  Speaker 4: regular self care on a daily basis, and then it
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  Speaker 4: can also be used reactively when you're really feeling yourself
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  Speaker 4: being triggered or feeling really anxious, overwhelmed, that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that you got into it
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  Speaker 1: is because you had some pretty debilitating anxiety. Can just
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  Speaker 1: quick brief on that because I know that I'm a clencher,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a stress ball, I'm an anxiety driven person. And
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that was in this
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  Speaker 1: show that reached out to me about anxiety and how
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  Speaker 1: that causes so much pain in their life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, I found this because I
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  Speaker 4: was on this journey of trying to help myself feel better.
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  Speaker 4: And that was because I was, really, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: dealing with a lot of anxiety and stress. I was
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  Speaker 4: having panic attacks and which would lead me to clenching
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  Speaker 4: at night, which then would irritate my TMJ, my jaw
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  Speaker 4: would lack. I was dealing with a lot of physical
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  Speaker 4: pain in my jaw and in my neck, and and
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  Speaker 4: pain is awful. And finding ways of really trying to
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  Speaker 4: mitigate that naturally was what the goal was. And I
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  Speaker 4: came across tapping, and it really it really changed things
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  Speaker 4: for me. It helped me. It helped me to understand
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  Speaker 4: that there really were emotional components to the physical pain
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  Speaker 4: that I was dealing with, and it helped me to
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  Speaker 4: acknowledge that to hold space for it. And that's really
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  Speaker 4: what this whole practice is about. It's really acknowledging how
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  Speaker 4: you truly feel, allowing yourself to give it the attention
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  Speaker 4: that it needs, and that way you can begin to
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  Speaker 4: work through it as opposed to, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 4: pretend like it's not there, or just powering through and
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  Speaker 4: pushing and pushing and pushing. And we all know that
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  Speaker 4: when when we do that eventually you know you're just
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  Speaker 4: going to fall down or you're going to explode, or
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  Speaker 4: you know it doesn't doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, it does not.
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  Speaker 1: It ends up leading to disastrous consequences for your body,
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  Speaker 1: your relationships, your health, all of it.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I had a conversation with my sweetie last
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  Speaker 1: night because I was provided at this really cool doctor's
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  Speaker 1: name for something that we might try for my body
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  Speaker 1: for pain. And I have avoided calling this person because
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  Speaker 1: I avoid doctors like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, nope, I'm good, I've got it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of everybody else because then
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  Speaker 1: everybody else is taking care of and I'm always the
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  Speaker 1: last one.
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  Speaker 2: I say this on this show.
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  Speaker 4: All the time.
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  Speaker 1: I say it every episode, guys, and you guys are like,
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  Speaker 1: is this bitch ever going to learn?
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  Speaker 2: No, the answer is no. I want to take care
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  Speaker 2: of everybody but me. And I don't know if the.
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  Speaker 1: Reason is because I'm afraid to take care of me
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  Speaker 1: because I'm afraid of getting better, because now all I
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  Speaker 1: know is this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's talk about tapping into grief, tapping on
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  Speaker 1: my chin.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a merit it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the time, why is it not working?
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  Speaker 4: But you just naturally started doing that, right, And sometimes
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  Speaker 4: we do. We naturally touch the points and we don't
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  Speaker 4: even realize that we're touching points that are helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, it's a color point.
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  Speaker 4: Is a common one. I feel like, as women will
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  Speaker 4: often like just put your hand on your chest and kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of like yes, yes, don't kill him, don't kill him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's like, that's definitely one of my favorite
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  Speaker 4: favorite points. But you bring up a really you bring
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  Speaker 4: up a really good point of like, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: you get so used to being in the pain or
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  Speaker 4: dealing with the anxiety that that's what the normal is.
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  Speaker 4: And and sometimes pausing and asking yourself, like what benefit
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  Speaker 4: do I get from this situation, from dealing with the anxiety,
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  Speaker 4: from dealing with the pain, And you know, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times the gut reaction to that is like I
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  Speaker 4: don't get any benefit from this, you know. But sometimes
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  Speaker 4: sometimes there is something that's that's underneath that there is
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  Speaker 4: some sort of benefit. And uh, I've seen that. I've
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  Speaker 4: seen that with clients and when they're when you're willing
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  Speaker 4: to kind of step back and look at that that
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  Speaker 4: can then open a doorway for you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to hop into a little
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  Speaker 1: bit talk about grief. Yeah, grief and the impact that
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  Speaker 1: it has on our mind and our body. Right because
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  Speaker 1: for me, obviously it has a ton ton of impact
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  Speaker 1: on my mind and body, and my grief list is long. So,
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  Speaker 1: like I wrote, these are all the things that I've
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  Speaker 1: been grieving. This is what I was doing last night,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, no wonder I feel
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  Speaker 1: like shit every Yeah, the lot that we're grieving that
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  Speaker 1: we don't know about, that could been from when we
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  Speaker 1: were a little girl, from when we were a little boy,
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  Speaker 1: from when we were whatever we are, whoever we are,
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  Speaker 1: and how that sits in our bod. Like I always
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  Speaker 1: say about this on the show, I say, the body
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  Speaker 1: keeps a score hasn't stopped.
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  Speaker 2: It's the book that you should buy and you should read.
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  Speaker 1: But how grief does sit in our bod and how
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  Speaker 1: we can work through that? So can we talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about what's been kind of going on in
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  Speaker 1: your world? That elevated the reason why I reached out
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  Speaker 1: to you in regards to your email marketing was kind
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  Speaker 1: of grief leaning and how I brought that up and
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  Speaker 1: how you talked about tapping on themes specifically too, So
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about grief in your world.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, yeah, this this year has been heavy, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm dealing with a lot of stuff with my aging
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  Speaker 4: parents and my dad had some pretty serious health issues.
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  Speaker 4: My mom has late stage Parkinson's. My dad was no
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  Speaker 4: longer able to be her full time caregiver, so and
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  Speaker 4: it was just a really chaotic time. There's so many
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  Speaker 4: different types of grief right. A lot of time, the
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  Speaker 4: first thing people think of with grieving is like someone
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  Speaker 4: died and you're and you're you know, grieving someone that died,
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  Speaker 4: which of course is a type of grief, but like
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  Speaker 4: there's grieving for how things used to be. There's grieving
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  Speaker 4: for you know, the parent child relationship the way that
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  Speaker 4: it used to be and now this like turn and
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  Speaker 4: I'm having to do more of the more of the parenting.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is almost like this flip flop. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then my mom with the parkinson there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of neurological issues, there's physical issues, there's you know, beginnings
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  Speaker 4: of dementia, and so it's grieving somebody who's who's still here,
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  Speaker 4: grieving the relationship that you know I once had. But tapping,
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  Speaker 4: tapping has been helpful in allowing me to really acknowledge
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  Speaker 4: how I'm feeling, you know, the sadness of it, the anger,
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  Speaker 4: the frustration, the overwhelm, all of those things. So many
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  Speaker 4: emotions are mixed in with the grief.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, and to reiterate your point about
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  Speaker 1: we immediately think of grief as losing somebody, right, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I lost my sisters and people know on
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  Speaker 1: the show, and and it doesn't feel like it's gotten
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  Speaker 1: any better. Grief affects you in so many different ways.
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  Speaker 1: Like you get so angry and so resentful, and then
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  Speaker 1: you're sad and you're going all up and down and
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  Speaker 1: all around. And like I opened up the show with
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  Speaker 1: where I was talking about grieving for my bot, I
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  Speaker 1: am grieving for the death of a body that I
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  Speaker 1: used to have and trying to love the body that
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  Speaker 1: I'm in now. And that's challenging, especially because I'm resentful,
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  Speaker 1: I'm angry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tapping right now, guys, I'm all these eggs tapping
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  Speaker 2: it out.
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  Speaker 1: Tap taparoal Right, we got to get it out of us.
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  Speaker 1: So can you talk about a little bit about why
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  Speaker 1: tapping actually does this?
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  Speaker 2: How does it release cortisol and stress and inflammation? How
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  Speaker 2: does it do this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems such a simple thing to do
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  Speaker 1: that it's almost like whatever, but it's not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the somatic part of tapping on these points. If
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  Speaker 4: we pretend that my fist is my brain. Okay, this
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  Speaker 4: part of my brain. So I'm pointing to my making
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  Speaker 4: a fist, and it's for those of you that are
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  Speaker 4: not you can't see this. At the front part of
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  Speaker 4: my knuckles is my forehead. This is like the prefrontal cortex, right,
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  Speaker 4: This is where we make our good sound decisions. Information
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  Speaker 4: comes up the brain stem to the prefrontal cortex where
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  Speaker 4: we make these good decisions. Now, when we're feeling really anxious,
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  Speaker 4: really overwhelmed, when we're dealing with chronic pain, what's happening
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  Speaker 4: is information is coming up the brain stem, and we're
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  Speaker 4: going to pretend my thumb that was tucked inside my
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  Speaker 4: fist is the amygdala, and the amygdala is the part
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  Speaker 4: of the brain that controls fight or flight. This is
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  Speaker 4: the part of the brain that sends that cortisol into
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  Speaker 4: the body, so that alarm system is going off, and
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  Speaker 4: when this alarm system is going off. Information can't get
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  Speaker 4: to that prefrontal cortex because this alarm is going off.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's those situations where you're saying, I can't
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  Speaker 4: even think straight, you know, like and you literally can't
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  Speaker 4: because you can't access that part of the brain. And
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  Speaker 4: so tapping on the on the points helps to send
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  Speaker 4: a message to the amygdala and say, hey, amgdala, this
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  Speaker 4: is not a life or death situation. You do not
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  Speaker 4: need to be creating all that cortsol. And then slowly
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  Speaker 4: that prefrontal cortex can come back online. So now you
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  Speaker 4: can begin to think more clearly, and you know, we
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  Speaker 4: want to make decisions from that more grounded, calm, calm space.
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  Speaker 4: So and I think we talked about this last time,
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  Speaker 4: that the cortisol can be reduced by up to forty
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  Speaker 4: three percent. That's like, that's insane, an insane number. And
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  Speaker 4: so there's all these studies that have been done to
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  Speaker 4: back that up and show you that it reduces the cortisol.
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  Speaker 4: So I think there's something to be said about the
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  Speaker 4: somatic piece of it. It's just I mean, sometimes like
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  Speaker 4: I feel like we can get so caught up in
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  Speaker 4: like why is it working, what's happening. What's happening? Sure,
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  Speaker 4: And I can understand, and I can understand why I
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  Speaker 4: was the same way because it's weird, like you're tapping
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  Speaker 4: on yourself and you're like, this is making me feel better?
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  Speaker 4: Like what like what is this nonsense? You know? But
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  Speaker 4: if it is making you feel better, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: matter why, you know what I mean, like, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: really matter why it's making you feel better. If it's
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  Speaker 4: just making you feel better, and knowing that there is
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot of science that's backing up and you
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  Speaker 4: can go read all the studies about why, you know,
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  Speaker 4: why it's helping your brain and how it's reducing the cortisol.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, give it a chance. See if it
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  Speaker 4: moves the needle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I mean it does.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's weird because there's certain because whenever we talk,
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  Speaker 1: you will just start randomly tapping yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you know that you do that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you know how much you do it.
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  Speaker 4: I really do that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't constant well because you're used to it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do it all the time.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: It's like me, I just start.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: See you just did it, and you didn't even probably
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: know that you were doing it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: My kids.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: My kids will be like, you know, if I'm upset, mom,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: do you need to go tap?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: That's funny, Like, yeah, I'm gonna tap your ass right
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: out of here, and your college fund is bonne.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I went on. I went on a retreat and there
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: was a woman there who does energy work, and I
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: kept looking over. I'm like, oh, she's a tapper.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Like she's aapper.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I'm like, she taps on herself more than I do.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my, she's a tap in slat over there. Oh
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: my gosh. So tap or not to tap? That is
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the question. And and it's something that when I started
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: doing it with you, just briefly, one of the things
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that was hard for me was I was uncomfortable the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: saying my affirmations out loud. And I know that a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: lot of the reason was because I had developed a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: relationship with you enough that I was like, I want
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to be vulnerable with her, but I want her to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: still be my friend throughout all.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I will friend, so I'm nervous that I'm gonna loser
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: when I tap something out.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: She's like, WHOA, Okay, that's enough of that today. So
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: can you vanquish a little bit of the fear of
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that uncomfortability that may come with it, especially when you
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: first start doing it, because it's funky. You're like in
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the supermarket and all of a sudden, I'm like tapping
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: my collar bone. I'm like, that's because I hate everybody
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: in this entire room.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's because I'm a glorophobic.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: So going into big like places with a lot of people,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, I need prosecco immediately.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Or else I'm not going to make it through this.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it can be. It can feel weird,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: it can feel uncomfortable when you're when you're doing it
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: for the for the first time. You know, I was
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: first introduced to it in a in a group setting,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: so we were all, you know, feeling a little weird
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: together and maybe that made it a little.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: E f t an eft orgy where we were.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, group orgy.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tickets fly off the shelf.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: But you can do this in the privacy of your
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: own home. You can. You don't have to be doing
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: it out out in public. I mean, there's something there's
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: something to be said about doing this practice with a
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: practitioner and having somebody guide you through the practice. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: if you just want to like give it a go
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: on your own, there's a bazillion YouTube videos out there
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and you could type in you know, E F T
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and grief and I can guarantee you there's a video
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: that's that's going to pop up and you can just
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: tap on the points that the practitioners tapping on, repeat
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: after them, and go through the practice. Now, the caveat
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: to that is that you know it can not jive
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: with exactly how you're feeling. That's why you know, it
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: can be helpful to work with a practitioner so that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the words that are being used really resonate with how
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: you are feeling, because the words are are an important
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: part of this. But that being said, if you're working
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: with a practitioner and there's too much discomfort and sharing something,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: you don't have to share it, Like, you never have
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to share anything you don't you don't want to share.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: You can you can always, you know, come up with
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a code word or a code phrase.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Right, like so for example, a safe word, yeah, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: mean so like for example, this is perfectly safe, guys,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: is perfectly like.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: If you were in a car accident, right, and you
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: don't want to go through all the details of that
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: car accident and all the trauma that you experienced of that.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe you just say that late night in October, right
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: and you just you're just saying those words. You're not
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: going into all the all the detail else. But you
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: know how that feels. You know what, you know what
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: emotions are coming up for you.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You know what that triggered phrase or whatever would rise
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that emotion within you without actually having to relive the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: event exactly through and through and over and over again.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's safe ways like too, there are ways to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: safely explore this stuff because you and it should be gentle.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: You should and if you are if you are deciding
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: to go with a practitioner, and the practitioners like, we're
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: gonna go deep and we're gonna gonna you know, go
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: hard or go home and you're going to re experience
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: all this trauma. Hell no, go find somebody else, you know.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: That is not that is not what this work is about.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: This work is about being really gentle, meeting you where
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: you are and going at your own pace. So don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: let anybody push you to do something that you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: feel comfortable doing.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that I think that's good because in the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: beginning it feels a little uncomfy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Some people might just like dive right in are like
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: this is great.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: For me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It was a little bit uncomfortable.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: As I start getting into it a little bit more,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I was less uncomfortable.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: But that tapping part of it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: You know, when we talk a lot about especially on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this show, we talk about pain and stress and trauma
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and all of the wonderful things that happen to us
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: in our lives.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But with all of that, that that that stress, that
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: that anxiety, that trauma that sits in us.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: While we're having to work while as women in particular,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: are taking on seven thousand different roles. We've got step children,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we've got real children, not that step children aren't real children,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, birth versus step You've
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: got you know, a new marriage, a divorce, all these
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: different things that are going on while we're trying to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: run our businesses, while we're trying to be incredibly strong
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and wonderful women at work, and you work with women
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in the workplace as well well to help them through
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all the pressures that ambition brings to us.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Burnout.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That brings to us trusting ourselves in the midst of
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: all of the things that were up that we're confronted
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: with with our lives, especially in the business world as well.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And you work with business women as clients specifically, can
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you ch chat a little bit about that. We didn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: touch on that on our first episode at all.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, you know, I work I do work with
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of entrepreneurs for all those reasons that you
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: just said, like these are these are very smart, educated
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: women that are doing a million and two things, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: you know, feeling the stress and the pressure and the overwhelm.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Sometimes there's feelings of not being good enough that that
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: come up, that they don't have enough time all the things,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: all the things, and and this can show up. This
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: can show up for for how they show up in
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: their business and how they show up in their in
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: their personal life. You know. Fear of really being seen
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: is a is a popular thing that I've worked with
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of people on speaking your speaking your truth,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you know, and when we are able to get to
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the root of where that leaf started or where that
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: fear began and holding space for it, and and a
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: lot of the times this stuff like you mentioned, goes
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: back to childhood and things that we experienced as kids,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and we didn't have the tools to process a lot
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: of that stuff. And it just builds over over time.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: You know. It's like and sometimes you don't even realize it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It could be you know, a parent saying something that
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you didn't do something right, and a teacher saying, oh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: you didn't do that good enough, and then you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: all these different experiences over the years, and it just
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: builds up and builds up, and then you know, somebody
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you're working with says something and all of a sudden,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: all that stuff that's built up. You know, it's not
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: really about the one thing that this person is saying
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: at all. You just like hit that threshold and boom,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: it's like an explosion and that comes out. Maybe you
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: lash out, maybe you you know, have a total meltdown.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's a lot of physical pain and whatever the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: case may be. And so, you know, I like to
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: work with those those women to help them to really
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: hold space for themselves and to allow them to feel
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: all of the feelings that are associated with it and
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: acknowledge it because a lot of the time we don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: want to do that right. We don't want to. We
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: don't want to do it because it's uncomfortable. We don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: want to do it because we don't think we have.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: The time to do it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: You know, it's going to break us if we if
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: we do it. But most of the time, these these
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: women are coming to me because something's happened and they're like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I can't I can't do this anymore, right, Like I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: can't deal with this. I've tried. I've tried all these
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: other things, whether it's therapy or other you know, coaching
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. And I saw this
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: thing about tapping, and let's let's try. I'm willing to.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Try, you know well, And I think that's really what
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it comes down to, is if we're doing the same
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: thing expecting different results, you know what that means.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And I worked in corporate America for too long. Even
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: though I was running my own business, I was supporting
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: corporate America. So was in corporate America from the second
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I woke up until the second I woke up, Like
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: even if I slept a little bit, it was still
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: always constantly going on. And I wonder if some of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that from the initial when I started twenty five years ago,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: started my business when I was just going, going, going, going, going, going, going,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because it was ingrained in my brain that you will
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: never rely on the mount lindsay, you will never ever.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You will be a strong woman, you will be an
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: educated woman, you will be a success woman, which.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Are all things that are absolutely true. That happened, But
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: it wasn't for a lack.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I lost a lot of stuff going up through the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: pressure of ambition, and through that, I believe wholeheartedly, came
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of addiction stuff, came a lot of sex, drugs,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: rock and roll, all of that lifestyle because I was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: going all day long, and I was traveling for work,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and if anybody that's in sales knows you go on
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a sales trip, it is full throttle, just stupidity all
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the time. And so all of that just starts wearing
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and tearing on your body, and it wears and tears
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on your soul. And as a woman, when you're trying
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to climb up in corporate America or you're trying to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: climb up in anything that you're trying to do, the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: stress and the anxiety of that causes that pressure.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: That's just being a woman. Just coming out of the womb.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's nuts and so as our nervous system that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: has just been jostled around for like ever, how do
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: we get our nervous system like kind of sort of back.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Can we tap ourselves back? Can we tap our asses back?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna tap that ass. We're gonna tap that ass.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: My god, I love you.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our asses back out of this. This is a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: ridiculous Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And it starts with acknowledging how all of that makes
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you feel, right, the fact that, like, you know, you're
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: a woman having to deal with this, that you're that
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: maybe some of this is like self self imposed pressure
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: that you put on yourself. How it makes you feel
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: that you've been dealing with this for as long as
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: long as you have, how it's impacted your life. You know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: how far back does it go for you? You know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: all of the all of these things and acknowledging it,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: that's the thing, and saying it out loud, because a
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: lot of the time we're we're talking to ourselves and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: we're having a pretty negative self talk about how we
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: should be doing more. I don't I shouldn't be having
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: to ask for help. You know, what is that you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: saying that like, I'm a failure because I haven't been
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: able to do X, Y and Z all the negative
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: things that we can say to ourselves that are on repeat,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: and we say it over and over and over, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: then it feels really true. And so then when you
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: take the time to tap and say that thing out loud,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: you can begin to create some distance from it, and
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it can begin to feel a little a little bit
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: different and you can see things a little bit differently,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: and that's the beginning of the shift. I love it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It feels a little bit liberating. Yeah, And I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that that heaviness that I spoke about earlier, my body
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: just feels heavy.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: It just feels heavy every day. I'm like, oh my god, know.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: What water balloons feel like. You know, that's how all
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: my limbs feel like, just like filled with just this heaviness.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want to just like feel good.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I want to like be good, you know, because I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: feel good some days, even though I feel like shit
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: during it, I feel good.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You should see me on my wedding. I danced my
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: ass off. How did I do it?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Because I made the choice to do it, and I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: also took some muscle relaxers as well, but more than
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: apparently I was supposed to have taken.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: It could have given me a seizure, said my doctor.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: But I danced about.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I was not gonna not dance at my Italian wedding. Okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Like I had to figure it out.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But I need to be working more on this kind
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of healing than I have been, because I actually haven't
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: been focused as much on my healing as I as
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I have talked about doing on the show, as I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have been focused more on other people's healing. And I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: took this break and I focus on other people instead
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of me, And I had to regroup because I'm like, WHOA,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that didn't.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Work at all. Yeah, that did not work at all.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So here I am back tapping my own ass.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're telling our own asses on this
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: show from this moment forward.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: But I'm glad to hear you say that you got
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: to put yourself first. Figure you know you have to otherwise,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: you know, everything else just falls away. You need to
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: put yourself first.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And as women suck at it, as women suck at it,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: we just.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Do everything, everybody everything above ourselves.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And she's just a wonder woman. She takes care of everybody. Yes,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't do me, don't do me well.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: But from what I hear, I can tap a nice ass.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So you know, there was a that I read that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: somebody said about you, and I can't say who, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I can't say where, Okay, but it said she doesn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just help people feel better, she helps them feel free physically, mentally,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and emotionally.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Hmmm.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And I love that, right, I love that. I love
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that too.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: That's what I mean. That's really what it's about. It's
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: about figuring out what's going to make you feel good.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: The liberation. Liberation, Oh, we get you there.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it starts with sitting in some of the
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: discomfort of those emotions, because those emotions need to they
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: need to move, they need to be acknowledged, and they.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Need to And I'm glad that you said that, sitting
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: in the discomfort, because that's what I was just saying.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It is a little uncomfortable when we're trying to have
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: difficult conversations. It's uncomfortable when we're saying we're talking about
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: things that we've never talked about in forty seven years
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of our lives.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: There are things that are challenging, and that's why we're here.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: We're here to be raw, we're here to be real.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: We're here to have a safe space for you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And that's why Lauren's here, That's why I'm here, That's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: why every that comes as a show is here, because
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we're actually here for you too, not just here for ourselves.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We're coming here because even if we spoke to one
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: person to day, Lauren Lindsay's job, tap that ass, you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: did it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Tap it out, baby, tap it out.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I really want this to be on your new merch
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and I just want a ten percent cut.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: She's got merch, she's got all kinds of things, she's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: got freebies.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Talk about your masterclass and your new offers for entrepreneurs
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: so on? Is so forth real quick?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So I have a masterclass that talks more about
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit more about the science that that's going
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: on Mindshift with Lauren dot Com slash Masterclass if you
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: are interested in that. I have a group that's an
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: entrepreneur group that we meet once a month and we
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: tap it out together on all all the things, whether
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: it's something that's going on in your business or if
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: it's something going on in your personal life. It's a
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: it's a wonderful group of women that come together, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: you can find that on my website. And then I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: do have a new offer that I am in the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: midst of working on right now, Tap and Thrive for Entrepreneurs,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: which is going to be a really high touch program
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: to help women entrepreneurs overcome these blocks that are getting
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: in their way. They're limiting beliefs a lot of what
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: we just just talked about that are is holding them
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: back from showing up as their best self and feeling good. Like,
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  Speaker 4: no more faking it right, no more pretending we've got
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  Speaker 4: it all together.
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  Speaker 2: Forget to make it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, do it. No, let's be real and let's acknowledge
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  Speaker 4: how we're actually feeling and do the work to shift
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  Speaker 4: it so that we can genuinely feel good. Because you
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  Speaker 4: deserve it. We all deserve it. We all deserve to
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  Speaker 4: feel good and powerful and empowered and speaking our truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and from my understanding, there's been such a big
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  Speaker 1: interest in it that you have a wait list now
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  Speaker 1: because so many people were interested in it, So that's great.
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  Speaker 1: All this sup will be in social media as well
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: as on show notes on the website and so on
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and so forth, so we'll be sure to make.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that it's in all the email marketing and all that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: If you have not signed up for email mark getting,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: please go to our website and sign up because we've
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  Speaker 1: got all kinds of deals that come out from some
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  Speaker 1: of our guests that have product as well as Lauren Masterclass.
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  Speaker 2: You know, tap in that ass. That's just going to
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  Speaker 2: be that's the name of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I hope it's approved because I already sent it to
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  Speaker 1: my marketing director.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I did not, but I love it so much because
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  Speaker 1: it's true. Tap that ass together. So you can find
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  Speaker 1: her all over the place. Like I said, I'm going
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to put her all of her information in social media.
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  Speaker 1: Her social media handles are all over the place, so
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find her. So it's gonna be
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a like where's Waldo. It's gonna
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: be like where's Lauren.
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  Speaker 4: I know that my Instagram handle is a little complicated.
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  Speaker 4: If you just put in mind shift with Lauren, I
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  Speaker 4: will pop up. I will pop up.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not the mind and shift with Lauren. Is
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  Speaker 2: there anybody she stop that ass? Anything? You'd like to
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  Speaker 2: leave our listeners with before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: I would just say, always be true to yourself. Follow
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  Speaker 4: follow the nudges, you know, like that's like always my thing.
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  Speaker 4: Just continue to follow the nudges. See where it leads you.
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  Speaker 4: If that's to take in a class, if that's to
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: call in an old friend, if whatever that is for you,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: give yourself that gift, make the make the time, check
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  Speaker 4: in with yourself, see how you're feeling. Ask what you
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: as you ask yourself what you need right now? Like
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to pause, what do I need right now? And maybe
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: it's just a glass of water. I don't know, but
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and that's okay. Maybe it's to go for a walk,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's to call a friend me, whatever it is,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: give yourself, give yourself that gift, give yourself whatever it
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: is that you want right now.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it's to listen to a good podcast episode gone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. Well, thanks again for coming
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: back to the show.
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  Speaker 1: It was so great to have you back on your
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: message today was needed for myself included. It tends to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: work that way on the show. My guests come on
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn it, I needed them today. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it seems to align that way. So thanks for coming
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  Speaker 1: back here and we appreciate you tap in our assets.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And also before we jam here, I have a new
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: bite sized extension of the Pain Game podcast called Pain Bites,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: not bites, but bites like bytes because pain does bite right.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to serve up like a small but
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: mighty dose of real talk on Fridays, really quick and dirty,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: five minutes. That can't do it without you, So I'm
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: calling upon you, our little VIPs, to submit your wins,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: your losses, your struggles, your celebrations, everything in between, from
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: within your week, and I'll highlight you anonymously if you'd
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: like to.
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  Speaker 2: Each week I want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about you one bite at a time,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: so you can send me your voice note, send me emails,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: dm me, do it, Get engaged.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Get engaged.
• 35:44
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• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and you also can submit your voice memo directly through there.
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  Speaker 1: I want to highlight you and your small wins, your
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: big wins, all of the wins, all of the losses,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: whatever you need. If you just want to bitch and complain,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: send me a voice, notote about it, and I'm going
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to talk about it for you, all right, So do it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: That's called the Pain Bites.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Outside of that, you are exclusively invited to share this.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Tap that ass out the IP pain journey. Together. Let's
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: get to the heart of how to heal with you
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: by my side.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Please follow the Pain Game Podcast wherever you digest your
• 36:22
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to my little vaps. Catch you on
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the other side.