Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Could You Get Your Wife To Have Sex With You If You Got A Million Bucks To Make It Happen (And If You Weren't Allowed To Tell Her About The Million Bucks)
Transcript
- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:08Psych mom show, today, I'm going to be talking about whether you
- 0:11could get your wife to have sex with you for a million dollars
- 0:14and how to use that. Thought experiment, not in order
- 0:17to depress yourself. But in order to cultivate the
- 0:20exact opposite, a feeling of proactivity and agency in your
- 0:23marriage, which is so sorely lacking, among many men before
- 0:26that, we do want to tell you. And I mean the Royal week
- 0:30because it's only me want to tell you to subscribe because
- 0:34most Recently, I talked about why women actually want you to
- 0:37pick out the clothes. They wear.
- 0:39Not exactly, not all women, but it is something for you to
- 0:42listen to especially if you think that she would rather that
- 0:45you have no preferences in any domain.
- 0:48Like some sort of amorphous blob that exists to have a paycheck.
- 0:52So, our back to the topic at hand, could you get your wife to
- 0:56have sex with you for a million dollars?
- 0:58And for those of us who like to really have the details on all
- 1:01thought experiments, you are not allowed to tell her about the
- 1:04Dollars because then yes she would have sex with you but then
- 1:09she would put that right into the kids college fund.
- 1:12But anyway, could you do it? Most guys say they could do it.
- 1:17Most guys, say that 4 million fucking dollars or a gun to
- 1:19their head, you know, if they're more of an anxious sort that
- 1:22needs to fear motivator, they say they can do it, they can get
- 1:26late, you know, but then why aren't you right?
- 1:30What are the special talents that you would mobilize in order
- 1:34to get laid? Aid in the sci-fi film, where
- 1:36you got a million dollars in order to do.
- 1:38So what would you do? I'll tell you what a lot of guys
- 1:41think when they actually give this some thought and these are
- 1:44the guys who are like, oh I couldn't even get laid like no
- 1:46matter what I try, she rejects me a ball, the bomb, opt molk.
- 1:51So what would change if you actually?
- 1:54Like, if there was a lot of, if you had a lot of skin in the
- 1:57game, right more so than you have and in fact, more urgency
- 2:00than you have because you only have, you know, 24 hours to get
- 2:03this million dollars, right? They should do a porno like
- 2:06this, you know, be so funny like can I sleep with 100 women for a
- 2:10million dollars by midnight, you know.
- 2:12But anyway, could you get your wife to sleep with you for a
- 2:16million dollars? Yes.
- 2:17What would you do? You would be like, super
- 2:19awesome, man? You would be super romantic, you
- 2:22would immediately call a babysitter.
- 2:23You would, like, whisk her away to like some sort of romantic
- 2:26setting you would like, I mean, so let's say it's like, 8:00
- 2:29a.m. you get your marching orders.
- 2:31You would turn to are you and say, I love you so much.
- 2:33We're not, you know, acting like we need to focus on this
- 2:36marriage. I'm going to take today off of
- 2:38work, you know, because like this is so urgent.
- 2:40I love you. Like a, our life is passing Us
- 2:43by, let's spend the whole day together or let's say she's a
- 2:47neurosurgeon and she has a child brain surgery on the docket.
- 2:51Then you would say, as soon as you're done with work, I'm
- 2:53picking you up. I'm getting a sitter.
- 2:55I'm taking you out to dinner. I love you so much and you would
- 2:58be super romantic and loving and then you would initiate sex by
- 3:03kissing and In her in the eyes at telling her that you love her
- 3:06so much hopefully hopefully you would do that.
- 3:09Hopefully you wouldn't just like make some joke and honk her boob
- 3:13because then my friend you would not get the million dollars.
- 3:17So if you could put on your A game in this, you know, fantasy
- 3:22Universe, where you would get a million dollars or having sex
- 3:24with your wife, why aren't you doing this shit on the regular?
- 3:27You know, and there's some guys who are like I couldn't do any
- 3:30of that, you know, she wouldn't I'm at guess I could do it but
- 3:33you wouldn't respond to it. No matter what, I could be
- 3:35sobbing about how much I love her and there could be like
- 3:38violin players that I flew in from Italy or whatever.
- 3:41And we're like in a fucking Gondola because we teleported to
- 3:44Venice and she still wouldn't have sex with me.
- 3:46Well, then, my friend, why are you still in that relationship?
- 3:49Why are you still in that marriage, right?
- 3:51I mean, like if you literally couldn't get her to have sex
- 3:53with you, if your life depended on it, and if sex is important
- 3:56enough to you to have listened to a podcast with this title,
- 3:58then why, why, why are you still in that relationship?
- 4:02It's usually, because you have toxic Lilo Levels of self-esteem
- 4:05and self-worth and if you're, you know, ongoing listener,
- 4:09probably you saw sexless marriage growing up.
- 4:12And you just cannot imagine that like a man would be able to have
- 4:15any agency over getting a woman to love him more and then you're
- 4:18completely completely wrong. People could make one another
- 4:21love each other, whatever. My pronouns are getting messed
- 4:25up. You have agency over making your
- 4:27wife love you more, doesn't she have agency over making you love
- 4:30her more? Think about it, if she just like
- 4:33smile that you more and seemed happy.
- 4:34Eager to see you and whatever wouldn't you love her even more
- 4:37than you do now or at all, if you don't, you know, yes, of
- 4:40course, even your damn kids could make you love them more.
- 4:44This is not PC to say it but if they're if they act nice you
- 4:48feel a lot more love in your heart that if they're acting
- 4:50spoiled and entitled, right? So come on now you got to admit
- 4:55reality reality is you know you through a combination of your
- 5:01genes and the environment in which you were raised your
- 5:03previous experiences. And you're disappointing
- 5:05marriage. You are now depressed, likely
- 5:08and that depression manifests as passivity apathy and
- 5:12hopelessness and feeling of paralysis, if he's a V6 or
- 5:15really anything involving your wife or possibly in a, you know,
- 5:19much more macro way, you feel completely frustrated at work
- 5:24and with friends and just anywhere in the world, you feel
- 5:27kind of paralyzed and and demoralized and stock and like
- 5:31everything is fucking hopeless. And why even try If you do feel
- 5:35like that then you are that is depression.
- 5:38And then you ought to be talking to somebody about it and or go
- 5:41into a medical provider to try out whatever the hell you can to
- 5:44get yourself, not depressed. But that is not a reality.
- 5:47There are so many more women like it's so funny.
- 5:51You know, when you're like couples counselor or like people
- 5:54come in the guy'll, be like, yeah, well, it was off to a bad
- 5:57start. I'll say how is the week they'll
- 5:59say, well, we had a fight and he'll say, oh, was off to a
- 6:01start from the beginning, I said X, she didn't like it.
- 6:03And then the day, Shot. So invariably I turned to the
- 6:06woman and I say Obviously is there anyway.
- 6:09You know, that he could have made that day better.
- 6:12She's like, yes, I was like, tell me some ways and she like,
- 6:14rattles them off instantly, so if he had immediately
- 6:17apologized, if he had looked me in the eye after that, if he
- 6:19didn't, just go into the living room to sulk for the rest of the
- 6:21day, if he had tried to come over and hug and kiss me.
- 6:25If he had, you know, maybe plan some time for us to spend
- 6:28together if he had validated what I had said, and like, you
- 6:32could be like, oh yeah, she talks a good game but none of
- 6:34that shit. It would have worked.
- 6:35Well, that's stupid to say right with somebody tells you
- 6:39something that would work for them, why not try to fucking
- 6:41believe them. Before you tell them that their
- 6:43bullshit then you could be like oh well I've tried everything
- 6:45know you have and that's narcissistic to think that
- 6:47nobody's tried everything, right?
- 6:50Nobody's a perfect person. I can try everything but I know
- 6:53from being a human as well as working with multiple humans
- 6:56that there is always something that can put somebody into a
- 6:59better mood. Always always, always always
- 7:02your wife could have just got fired at work.
- 7:04I'm like good one of the kids got in trouble at school, and
- 7:08she feels fat. And it's the day before her
- 7:10period And there are plenty of ways that you can make that day
- 7:12better and plenty of days. I died.
- 7:14No, you don't disagree with this that you can make that day
- 7:16worse. But most guys think that they
- 7:19could only make it worse than can't make it better.
- 7:21You can make it better, but if you don't know how and if you
- 7:24think that like the amount of effort that I was talking about
- 7:27before when I was doing the fantasy of what you would do, if
- 7:30you needed to get her sleep with, you just sounds completely
- 7:33off the wall. And Like something you couldn't
- 7:35pull off. Then you should be going to
- 7:37therapy or coaching. You know, where somebody can
- 7:39really help you lean into the best part of yourself and help
- 7:42you brainstorm ways that you could potentially act in a more
- 7:46confident, assertive loving manner vulnerable to because
- 7:51it's very vulnerable to tell your wife, you know, I love you
- 7:53so much. I set aside this time I want to
- 7:55take off a day, I want to be with you, you know, that's
- 7:58vulnerable, that's putting yourself out there and that's
- 8:00something that a lot of guys struggle with vulnerability is
- 8:03really confident. You know, like guys think that
- 8:06it means weakness and the opposite of confidence, but
- 8:08being vulnerable is really a form of confidence because
- 8:10you're putting yourself out there.
- 8:11That's why women respond to it so much.
- 8:14And that's why it's in the romance books is being
- 8:16vulnerable. These men are vulnerable all
- 8:18over the place and romance novels, you know.
- 8:20So so what you need to do is you need to think about the, a game
- 8:25that you would bring to the table.
- 8:27If you got a million dollars or having sex with your wife, and
- 8:30then you need to do that, like, you really need to try it out.
- 8:34You need to act as though. Oh, the world is going to end if
- 8:36you don't have sex by the end of whatever weekend is coming up
- 8:39and you need to try your very very hardest.
- 8:41And if she says, basically, I'm not having sex with you no
- 8:43matter what then you pretty. If sex is important to you, you
- 8:46got two options. One is to say, well we don't
- 8:49have much for marriage then and maybe we should think about
- 8:52splitting or and my favorite one response out of those two would
- 8:57be. We need to get to couples
- 8:58counseling because of if if you really feel that distant from me
- 9:02that you cannot even imagine being intimate with me no
- 9:04matter. How much I try then we obviously
- 9:07a very different perspectives on marriage and closeness and we
- 9:10are not going to be happy with one another until we try to work
- 9:14through some of this and see what a middle ground could be.
- 9:17And I really want us to go see somebody and talk to somebody
- 9:19about it to try to get the marriage on track, you know?
- 9:22Because we are then, so obviously misalign and Miss
- 9:26attuned. That, you know, we can't, we
- 9:29can't fix it ourselves, you know.
- 9:31I mean, here, here I am and always be honest, say I have
- 9:34been trying Going to get laid like crazy because, you know, I
- 9:38don't remember how to masturbate, but because I love
- 9:40you. That's how I transmitted love.
- 9:41And we don't have a romantic relationship which I yearn for
- 9:45that is manifested to me through sex if there's literally, no way
- 9:48that you're telling me that that I could, you know, feel close to
- 9:51you physically. Then this is not the marriage I
- 9:54want and obviously, if you feel that way, there must be reasons
- 9:57that this is not the marriage that you want, otherwise you
- 10:00would probably be willing to try since you're not willing to try.
- 10:04I've got a That I've disappointed you grievously and
- 10:07I want to know how and how I could rectify it.
- 10:09There are very few women that will just be like you know, good
- 10:12speech but no, no there. I mean if you say like literally
- 10:15this is not the marriage I want, I want to figure out what went
- 10:18wrong. We obviously have different
- 10:20philosophies on marriage. I want to work together on
- 10:23figuring out if there's a middle ground, unless your wife is so
- 10:26far out of it already, that she does not want anything to do
- 10:29with you, in which case, it's better, you know, that now then
- 10:32she will probably come to table and play ball.
- 10:34You You know, and she will probably go to couples
- 10:37counseling and then you could figure out if she ever is going
- 10:39to have sex with you again. Kind of good to know, you know.
- 10:42I'm is plenty of guys who wish that they had a time machine and
- 10:44they could go back to themselves 10 or 20 years ago and be like
- 10:47man you're gonna get laid about three times in the next two
- 10:49decades. So why don't you get out of
- 10:50Dodge right now? You know and you know what in
- 10:54two decades from now one or two you're going to wish that you
- 10:57could go back to this moment and figure out if you are ever going
- 11:00to have any sort of intimate romantic life again.
- 11:02And as I've discussed Ad nauseam, Sex is not about sex,
- 11:06it is about intimacy. And so what you're really saying
- 11:09is will I ever have a romantic intimate relationship with my
- 11:12wife again? And if not, I kind of need to
- 11:15know that right now so that I can make decisions accordingly
- 11:18about how I want to spend the rest of my life and that is your
- 11:20your prerogative, you know? Like, that is something that you
- 11:24should be doing. If you think that marriage
- 11:26should have a romantic component and your spouse doesn't, I would
- 11:30tell both men and women. The same thing, you got to
- 11:33figure out who Your shit out. Like, figure out why should you
- 11:37be living in a complete romantic deficit and intimacy deficit?
- 11:41Nobody deserves that no matter what you did in the past,
- 11:43whatever. And if she hates you because you
- 11:45cheated or because you drank too much or because of various
- 11:49empathic ruptures, you got to get into counseling and work
- 11:53through that and see if there is any future at all.
- 11:55Because when people just let these things go for too long,
- 11:58they end up in a place where they are irreconcilable.
- 12:01And even the most skilled marital counselor cannot make
- 12:03any Headway because People are out, you know, they both have
- 12:07one foot out or one person a two-foot feet out.
- 12:10The other person doesn't, which still averages to one foot out
- 12:12each, which is not a good situation.
- 12:14Sometimes it can work but please don't put your hopes in the all
- 12:20of your eggs in the basket of that.
- 12:22Marital counseling can help. Even if we push it off another
- 12:25five years, know the minute that you think that it would be a
- 12:28good idea. The minute, the intimacy starts
- 12:29to slide, of course, I don't mean like when your wife has
- 12:33just given birth and you haven't had sex Sex in six weeks yet?
- 12:35Absolutely, I'm not talking about that.
- 12:37I'm saying, if it has been a couple of years since you have,
- 12:40had the intimate life since you've wanted counseling,
- 12:43counseling is it? The time is now the time is now
- 12:46some people really, you know, respond to a wake-up call and
- 12:50this could be your wake-up call. If you could not get your wife
- 12:53to have sex with you for a million dollars, and if you're a
- 12:56woman in the situation, by the way, because there are, if you
- 12:59could not get your husband's have sex with you for a million
- 13:01dollars. As I've talked about repeatedly,
- 13:02this is even more demoralizing for women.
- 13:04Cause, you know, as I've said mine of higher sex drive so
- 13:07overall. So you are in a different sort
- 13:09of situation, that's more unusual.
- 13:12And then you feel even worse about yourself because this is,
- 13:15you know, not at all. Anything.
- 13:17That's in the popular media. Although of course there are men
- 13:19with lower sex drives on their wives.
- 13:21It's just makes you feel even worse honestly?
- 13:24As a woman, you know? And that's the women that I work
- 13:26with. They feel just like total freaks
- 13:28when they're in this situation where they're pursuing their
- 13:31husband, their husband won't have sex with them.
- 13:32So get yourself into couples counseling.
- 13:34If you're in that Situation even quicker, you know because it's
- 13:37such a much more unusual situation so it may really
- 13:40indicate profound depression or low testosterone in the man, but
- 13:43this was a little bit of a tangent.
- 13:46Okay, so what are you going to do?
- 13:47You're going to think about, whether you can get your wife to
- 13:49have sex with you for a million dollars, then you're going to
- 13:51act like that, like that's the situation that you're currently
- 13:54in. Like you're in that sci-fi movie
- 13:56or that short story and then you are going to execute.
- 14:01If you fail to execute, you will take that as a sign from the
- 14:04heavens. That you need to pursue couples
- 14:06counseling immediately and you will give your wife a very
- 14:08Soulful honest and sincere and eloquent oration, or at least
- 14:14just literally say we need to go to couples counseling because I
- 14:17can get late to save my life and that's how I express love.
- 14:21And so, this is a real bad sign for our marriage and it's
- 14:25terrifying. Honestly, I didn't know that we
- 14:27were doing that bad and I'm sure a lot of it is me.
- 14:30We got to get into couples counseling to fix it.
- 14:34You know, I mean really and that will really set the frame
- 14:37because then you're being completely honest, not having
- 14:40sex is a big issue for me. I have never really realized how
- 14:43unable to execute. I would be quite honestly it is
- 14:46a terrifying side. It is just like you could say to
- 14:49your wife, it is just like if you spent the entire weekend
- 14:52getting me to say I love you and you couldn't.
- 14:55That is how terrified I feel right now because I love
- 14:58languages intimacy, you know and if you're in the situation we
- 15:02couldn't get her to have sex with you.
- 15:03It's likely that you wouldn't kiss you or hug you either.
- 15:05So, you could even say that I have been trying to kiss you or,
- 15:09and hug you and be closed for the whole weekend.
- 15:11And I can, if you could kiss her and hug her, by the way, then
- 15:13you're just not trying hard enough.
- 15:14Most likely to have sex with her.
- 15:16Unless you guys are in a culture where like, she has her period
- 15:18and that's just, like, never ever done, ever or like she's
- 15:21sick. And that's the end of the world
- 15:23or like whatever. By the way, I'm going to be
- 15:26talking next about when women have chronic pain, but it only
- 15:29uniquely impacts one thing, guess what?
- 15:30That is. And so that'll be an
- 15:33interesting. Resting one if you guys think
- 15:35you're in that situation. All right.
- 15:36Well, I'll talk to you soon. Have a great day.
- 15:38Hope you got something out of this and please do follow my
- 15:41advice and try and May the force be with you.