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The Pivot I Didn't See Coming · Reframe

• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Reframe, where honest conversations create new possibilities.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're Sarah and Danny, and each week we sit down together to explore life, growth, and everything in between.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Danny.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, how are you?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good, thank you.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really good, thank you.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's so nice to be here.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just kind of paint the scene.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's very hot today when we're recording this.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Very hot, very sweaty, very shiny.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are all surviving the what is it, the fourth heat wave now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not complaining.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Not complaining.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love the sun, but it is hot and sweaty.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we just kind of paint that scene of where we're at at the moment at the time of this recording.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and also just to say that as always, we're pressing record on a conversation that we've just started in in our private, and then we go, let's let's talk about this.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, usually we say, we've just been talking about this before we jump on, don't we?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: Which today is slightly different because this actually has come from a conversation.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, our last conversation that we had recording the podcast was that last week?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: God, it's a lot's happened in a week.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're kind of jumping straight in from there, really, aren't we?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say I'm gonna hand it over to you because I think we started this with the fact that you said to me, Oh my goodness, what a week! Which started from something that was seeded during our conversation last week.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: And what I think is really interesting is to kind of like pick up on that idea of how conversations can seed things for us and take us on kind of like um trajectories that we didn't see coming.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: But they when we know and sense into them, when we know that it's maybe something that we've picked up that feels aligned and feels good for us, and we follow it, that it starts to bring kind of like take us into a path that feels aligned for us, even if mentally a head might tell us that it that's a weird idea.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Why have I suddenly started thinking about that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is that now repeat on repeat in my brain?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Why can I s not?
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  SPEAKER_00: Now can I not think of anything else?
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, which is what you're saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna let you tell us about that now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think what was funny actually when we spoke last session as uh last podcast recording as well, was I said to you, Oh, we should have recorded that because what I really love is we started talking about something really naturally after we'd stopped recording, and you went, Oh, let me just check your chart for this specific thing, and you were talking about how it like your um human design fits a certain way, and we were talking about kind of the foundational pieces that we need to help support us, especially in business.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: And when you looked at my chart, you were like, Oh, you're completely the opposite.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that was the conversation that sparked.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the words you said were similar to this, was that I do need, and you can correct me, I'm sure.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I need a little bit of the foundational safety to spur me on to energize me, kind of like the Maslow's hierarchy, if we're looking at self-actualization, I need the foundational layers to be able to reach the top.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas you work slightly differently to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my my perspective is all about the want it, it's like actually, if I get stuck in thinking about what the primary needs are, it's very heavy and weighty for my for me.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: So if I'm focusing on foundational stuff, survival stuff, then that's actually very weighty, and it's not the right things for me to spot and see in life.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm more about the kind of what it is that people want, what's like what people are striving towards.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that higher part of that hierarchical need, like towards the top.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whereas actually for you, it's completely the opposite.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you need to have your perspective on your views on um meeting your survival needs, meeting the needs that meeting those very foundational needs.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're not doing that, if you're not spotting those for yourself, then you are not preparing yourself to be able to be in your zone of genius, you're kind of like your at your it accessing your gifts.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Which is super interesting because that's something that I have had conversations and reflected on recently.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've made a lot more focus on my eating, my exercise, what I saw the foundational pieces.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: But the conversation we had was about financial foundations and security as well.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: And as a passing comment you made was why not look for something that supports you, even if it's one day a week.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: Now, as I was just telling you, someone had sent me a job advert, which I was due to look at.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: So your comments book spurred on me to look at that job, which then spurred me on to look at other jobs that I want as I transitioned to work with in sport and with athletes.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: So as I started looking, all these job opportunities came up, and one of them I landed on it's like, oh, that feels so aligned, like so excited about it.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't think of anything else then of I just want this particular job.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: And regardless of what happens with that one, the knock-on action is me realizing I actually want to go back into employment to get some financial stability and take a lot of the pressure off that I think I've been feeling to build my business.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so, as we were talking, that one comment has compounded to a lot of different actions, like it always does.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: And a different conversation that I had, which I was explaining, I planned to have a one-to-one, a bit of a kind of business strategy call, which had been um postponed a couple of times, but in divine timing, it happened the day after I'd realized I want to go back into work and look how all the pieces fit together.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: When yeah, I had no no idea that any of that was going to happen.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: And for us, it was just a nice chat after the recording and look what's happened.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love to, I'd love for you to if you feel okay to just talk about that pivot that you're doing in your business and how because I love it when you do talk about that because it's something that you're really excited about, and I just think it just adds a little bit more context to where you're going.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: But also just on the back of that to say that when we're doing that in our businesses, when we're when we're kind of maybe taking a step in a different direction, you know, it's like how we build the energy that really supports moving towards that new something for ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like you said to me, you thought you were doing all the things that you needed to do, like going out networking and to doing courses or programs and meeting, like having experts to talk to about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But actually, the one thing that's really excited your energy and got your energy moving is the prospects of going back into employment.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that wouldn't be a really obvious step to take when you are looking at changing your business.
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  SPEAKER_00: However, energetically, what you're being shown to me is that that revving of your engine almost energetically, that's going to move and start shifting your energy in the right direction, give you that sort of that support that you need, that little that financial support.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that actually that frees you to be able to think about the new business.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because actually, probably without even noticing it, the other thought of like, oh, I don't have I don't, you know, like I need to I need to do this so that I can make some money or I need to do this, I need to do this, that kind of overtakes all other thoughts.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the predominant thought, which is then draining your ability to actually think about and conceptualize where this new business is going and to get excited about it.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Does that seem right?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: So to add the context, I've been in private practice for about three, four years.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely for the last three years, that's been my sole income.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I've done a lot of changes in business, focused on different areas of mindset coaching until I've kind of come full circle to what I did as my dissertation thesis, which was the role of therapy with high performance athletes.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it's always been there, but I had to do the full circle to realize that is what really interests me.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm passionate about.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: And even as I say that now, I feel the energy like buzzing up inside of me, like.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I feel that, but I had to go through all of the challenges and and different pivots that I've done to get here.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I I know that.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: So then I made the decision towards the end of last year, this is the route that we're gonna go down.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: And there's definitely been again different things that I've had to go through.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: I've had to kind of pull back a lot of the work that I was doing, the kind of busy admin work that I was focused on networking in the wrong places.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Not that there's any you know, wrong places, but for where I want to get to.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Lots of different, just like trial and errors, like I guess.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I can kind of keep saying lightheartedly, but it's been eight months now, and I'm not necessarily where I want to be.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Not that nothing's happening, and not that there hasn't been little steps that I've needed to get to, but god, this is taking longer than I expected.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: And like you just said, I focused on okay, I need to eat better again to to get my energy up, I need to start exercising again.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: The again, the foundational pieces, but actually making this decision of let's look at employment again, that really, like you said, shifted my energy and my focus to go, oh, it feels exciting again, and I think to release the pressure.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you're self-employed and that's the only income you have is from the job that you're doing, but you're trying to push maybe a different angle.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's where the the energy for me has been quite conflicting or quite maybe difficult.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I have the excitement, I have the passion, I know where I want to get to, but there's been this like, oh, how do I get there?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: And as I was saying to you when I first set up my private practice, I was in employment at the time.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so I know that that worked for me.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so now again, it feels like another full circle coming back round to say, maybe I need to start there again.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: I've done it once, I didn't do it perfectly.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: There's lessons to be learned from that, yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: But even just all of those things has given me the energetic excitement and push of if this is what I want to do long term and I am so passionate about it, which I am, why does there need to be a rush?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: But there needs to be a rush when your sole income is the client work that you do.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Now I have slightly lost track of the question that you asked, but no, it's fine.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: You just set the context, which is beautiful.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and what I was, I think I was saying, or I wanted to say on in response to that was we none of us know why we would um take a take a step in a different, slightly different direction than what we think the plan should look like.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: But it's very obvious to me energetically when you start talking about the fact that you were thinking about going into employment and the fact that you saw a job which actually is related to the field that you want to go into.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just point that out.
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  SPEAKER_00: The job that you then were thinking about and obsessing about is a role within employment that actually is in the field that you want to get into, and that kind of sudden idea that maybe opportunities will come to you from employment.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you won't have that you'll get some some work and and it won't be exactly in the field, but it might be.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that who knows why you're supposed to take a job now.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because actually, when we know what we know about energy and what I know about human design is that actually um you we don't always know the why, because you could just be about to meet exactly the person you need to meet in the job that you're going to go into, that's going to open the doors to the route that you want to take.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: But because we get to think that we are clever enough to know how to make a plan, to lay out all the steps.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: If I network, if I do this, if I work with this person, if I do this course, then it will take me to exactly where I want to be.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: But if you follow your energy, it's reveal to you the potential, the opportunities that you just couldn't see.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Come from a conversation like we had, and it's to not ignore the signs, not ignore the little seeds that sometimes get planted.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: You listen to something, you listen to a podcast, you listen to something, your friend says something, you read something, and all of a sudden you're thinking about it a lot, or it's kind of it's triggered something inside of you.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: And there's that moment where it's like of course, yes, of course, it's obvious.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: Why haven't I thought this before?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I can relate to so many different moments of that exact thing, but and something we always talk about.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's trusting yourself that that is the way it's meant to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because believe me, for the last eight months, I have been plan this, this is what I need to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: I need to do this, is this and this, get to this place, and I think that energetically for me has probably caused a lot of that kind of maybe stuck-ish feeling.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whereas sometimes there's been moments where I've gone, yes, I'm gonna make this decision, or yes, I'm gonna do this, and then a couple of days later, that thing that I've said, yes, this is it, this is what I'm gonna do, has changed.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: But what I'm recognising is there's a reason that I needed to do that specific thing to put that into context.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: There was a few months ago where I'd also been thinking about a different um kind of job opportunity, and I was like, I think I'm gonna make this decision, and then two days later I thought that's absolutely ridiculous, it doesn't fit it's it's a no.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: But what that did was open up the ideas that there's different ways to bring income into your business.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: So, what I'm saying there is, even though the decision itself might not be the decision, or you can change your mind, sometimes that just leads on to the next thing or a different way of thinking.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you've probably given me a lot um of encouragement in that as well, being a manifesting generator that the decision is gonna change a couple of days later and that's okay.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: But actually, also just to trust that energy or that knowing that's like this is the decision or this is the direction that you want to go with because it's gonna show you something else that you need to see.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and it is.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's that's that I think it's really important practice to be able to evidence for ourselves when we maybe are making changes and we're following our dreams as opposed to just staying in work that is familiar and does yes pay the bills or kind of give us a level of a success, and we like that level of success, but actually in our hearts we want to do something different.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, how do you how do you make that change?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: And you have to evidence for yourself that you can trust, you can trust yourself, you can trust that you can take the success that you've already had, that you are able to build a business like you've already said, you've done this before in this exact same way.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's just remembering that this is a way that works for you.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter if somebody else would say that that's not the right way or that it's not the way that everybody else is doing it, but you know it works for you.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: You can evidence that this is how you can build success for yourself and trusting that, trusting you over the expectations from the outside world.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: I love it, and I'm really it just makes my heart seem to, you know, to see you like moving towards that in your own way, just basically.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it going back to what you said before, it wouldn't have been a way that I would have thought of months ago or you know, maybe even last week.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I have thought about um previously a job two, three days a week, and thought, well, that doesn't feel like it's gonna give me enough time and space that I need to grow the business in the way that I want to.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's funny that conversations happen, timing happens, and actually it's just checking in with yourself and seeing what comes.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, then listening to, I feel really excited to do it this way, actually.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a sign, go in that direction.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's just really it's really, really good to see how you've like you've used that moment to reframe what you're doing.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I see what you did there, yes, absolutely, and also just a reminder that we're so different as well.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're quite similar, I think we have a lot of similarities, but we're also so so different.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so, as I'm saying all of this for me now, it might be completely different for you or anyone listening.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and there's such beauty in that, isn't there?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: To trust your own process, not get distracted by um somebody else's process or somebody's idea of what your process should look like.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's just key, isn't it?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: And that's to me the beauty of human design because it gives us this ability to trust our own process.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's what I see you doing, and that's just beautiful.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really glad that you've been able to share that with me and then hopefully with the people listening, because um you know, I think that's just it.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: We get to kind of see things from a different perspective of what's possible if we just follow what's right.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: So watch this space.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's beautiful.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get to see you to see it unfold within this space.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, well, well, this is what we're dedicated, aren't we, to the podcast?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: The messy, the real, the in time, the changes, the shifts, the pivots.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, the messy manifesting generators live in action.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And thank you because without that um conversation that we had, who knows where I'd have gone or when I'd have got to this place.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so let's just leave.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: I want to leave everybody with this idea that you know, really watch the conversations that you're having this week.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Notice which things when somebody talks about something that make you feel a little bit more alive, a little bit more excited, plant a seed, notice when you can't stop thinking about something, because I promise you, if it's on a loop for some reason, and that can be like something that is is difficult, a challenge, but it's there for a reason.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's wanting you to to look at it, to listen a little bit harder and to see what gift it holds for you.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: And you made me laugh uh a couple of weeks ago when you said if you forget that it wasn't meant to be.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: So the things that you do remember that are playing on your mind, yeah, listen to those things, take note.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, in that was ah, that comment has sparked that reminder of the job application.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get curious, let's continue to keep looking.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: So it's also just kind of going with yeah, being led where you don't know you're gonna get to.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: In process, we're not kind of fixed goals or points, we are an unfolding process all the time.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, and I love being in this process with you, Danny.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's just beautiful.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for that huge kind of like um I don't know, share and kind of like that really honest share from you.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I love it, it's um really um insightful.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for letting me have this space.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like my own little therapy session.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, for for meeting you, because a lot of everything I've said today has come as a result from our connection, our conversations, and just letting each other be who we are and encouraging that.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: So a massive thank you to you two.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Big, big celebration of that for both for for both of us, really, for the for how great it is to be in conversation.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say goodbye for now, and um next week, who knows?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see that we've pivoted all the way back there.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's welcome it.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bye.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.