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Brazil's Elections, with Christopher Sabatini

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On October 4th, Flávio Bolsonaro beat Brazil's president, Lula da Silva, in the first round of the election. No one in Brazil's modern democracy had ever lost the first round and gone on to win. On October 25th, Lula won by 3.6 points.

Two days after the vote, we sat down in London with Christopher Sabatini to ask what Lula does with a fourth term, and what Donald Trump does with a winner he didn't want. They talk about Brazil's debt and its rare earths, the Donroe Doctrine after losing Brazil, and how close elections have become across Latin America.

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