Latest / The DTC Marketing Podcast with Fexingo: Direct-to-Consumer Brands, Shopify, and E-Commerce Growth / How DTC Brands Use Commerce Platforms for Cross-Border Sales
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- Lucas: If you're a DTC brand today and you only sell to one country, you're leaving something like sixty to seventy percent of potential customers on the table. The global middle class is growing fast, and cross-border e-commerce is projected to hit four point eight trillion dollars by the end of this decade. But the execution — that's where most brands stall. Luna: Right, because it's not just about slapping a 'ship internationally' button on your checkout. There's duties, currency conversion, returns logistics, local payment preferences — it's a whole operational mess. Lucas: Exactly. And that's where a new category of middleware has emerged — cross-border commerce platforms. Companies like Global-E, Digital River, and even Shopify's own Markets Pro product essentially bundle all that complexity into one API. The brand keeps its existing Shopify or Salesforce storefront, but at checkout the platform handles localization, calculates duties and taxes in real time, offers local payment methods like iDEAL in the Netherlands or Alipay in China, and even manages returns to a regional hub. Luna: And if these marketing conversations have sparked something you've actually used — maybe a new way of thinking about your own checkout flow, or a tactic you tested — a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these shows going. Buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small thing that adds up. And we keep the episodes ad-free because of that support. So, back to the numbers — Global-E's own data says brands using their platform see a thirty to fifty percent increase in international conversion rates. That's massive. The reason is simple: when a customer in Germany sees prices in euros, with VAT included, and can pay with PayPal or Sofort, they trust the transaction. Luna: So the friction that normally kills a cross-border sale — 'wait, how much will duties add?' — gets eliminated upfront. The customer sees the landed cost at checkout. Lucas: Right. And it's not just conversion. Returns are a huge hidden cost in international e-commerce. Without a local returns address, the customer ships it back to a US warehouse, which can cost thirty to fifty dollars, and the brand often just writes off the item. These platforms provide a local returns hub — say, in Rotterdam for European orders. The return is cheaper, faster, and more likely to be restocked. Brands report up to a forty percent reduction in returns-related costs. Luna: That's significant. But what's the catch? I imagine you're giving up something — probably customer data, or control over the checkout experience. Lucas: That's the big tension. When you use a platform like Global-E, the checkout page is technically theirs. You might get aggregated data, but not the granular purchase-level information you'd get from your own checkout. For brands that rely on building detailed customer profiles for retargeting, that's a real loss. Some larger brands are solving this by building their own localized checkout using headless commerce and third-party tax APIs — but that's expensive and requires dedicated engineering. Luna: So it's a scale trade-off. Small to mid-size brands probably can't justify building their own cross-border stack. The platform route makes sense until you hit a certain volume. Lucas: Exactly. And there's another angle: localization isn't just about currency and language. It's about cultural expectations. For example, in Japan, customers expect a 'gift wrapping' option at checkout and a handwritten note in the package. In France, they prefer to pay by bank transfer or in installments. A platform that's been operating in those markets for years has already figured out those nuances. A brand trying to go it alone would have to learn through trial and error, which is costly. Luna: Let's talk about a concrete example. You mentioned a skincare brand earlier. Lucas: Yeah, a mid-tier skincare brand — let's call it 'Bloom' — was selling only in the US and Canada. They were getting organic traffic from Europe, but their checkout didn't support any European payment methods. They partnered with Global-E, and within six months they were live in twelve European markets. Their international revenue went from basically zero to about eighteen percent of total revenue. The key was that they didn't have to set up a single legal entity or warehouse abroad. Luna: That's a pretty compelling case. But I wonder about the long-term lock-in. Once you're on a platform, migrating to another solution or bringing it in-house could be very disruptive. Lucas: It's a real concern. The platforms argue that their value — ongoing optimization of duty classification, carrier relationships, local compliance — is hard to replicate. And they're probably right for most brands. But we've seen a few companies graduate to their own stack after hitting fifty million dollars in international revenue. They hire a head of international ecommerce and a technical team to build it. But for the vast majority of DTC brands, the platform model is the only viable way to go global without blowing up the ops budget. Luna: And the platforms are evolving too. Shopify's Markets Pro, which is powered by Global-E, now lets brands set different pricing by market — so you can charge more in Australia if the market will bear it, while keeping prices lower in Southeast Asia. Lucas: That's a huge feature. Dynamic localization of price points based on purchasing power and local competition. A brand selling running shoes might price them at one hundred twenty dollars in the US, but one hundred fifty euros in Germany and ninety pounds in the UK — and the platform handles the conversion and the rationale. Without that, you're either leaving money on the table or pricing yourself out of a market. Luna: What about the logistics of returns? You mentioned a forty percent reduction in costs. How does that actually work in practice? Lucas: The platform operates regional consolidation centers. For example, a return from a customer in Spain goes to a hub in Madrid, not all the way back to the US. The platform inspects the item, decides if it can be restocked — maybe it goes to a local outlet or gets donated locally to avoid import duties on the way back. The brand only pays for the local return leg, which is often five to ten euros instead of forty dollars. And the customer gets a much faster refund, which improves loyalty. Luna: So it's not just cost savings — it's also customer experience. If I'm a German customer and I have to pay twenty euros to ship something back to the US and wait three weeks for a refund, I'm probably not buying from that brand again. Lucas: Exactly. And the platforms are adding more services. Some now offer 'duty and tax prepayment' so the customer never sees a surprise customs bill. Others handle local warranty claims for electronics or appliances. The endgame is to make the international purchase feel as seamless as a domestic one. Luna: Are there any categories where this model doesn't work well? I'm thinking of heavy or bulky items, or perishables. Lucas: Great question. For bulky items like furniture, the shipping cost can be prohibitive, and the platform's negotiated carrier rates might not help enough. Perishables like food or cosmetics with short shelf lives are tricky because of customs delays. Some platforms are adding cold-chain logistics, but it's early. And then there's the regulatory side — for example, selling supplements into the EU requires novel food authorizations. The platform can't solve that; the brand has to get the compliance right. Luna: So the platform handles the checkout and logistics, but the brand still needs to do their homework on regulations and product-market fit. Lucas: Absolutely. And that's where a lot of brands fail. They think 'I'll just turn on the global checkout and sales will pour in.' But if you haven't localized your product descriptions, your imagery, or your brand story for each market, the conversion won't come. The platform gets you to the starting line, but you still have to run the race. Luna: What about marketing? Do these platforms help with that? For example, can they optimize checkout for Google Shopping ads in different countries? Lucas: Some do. Global-E, for instance, has a feature that dynamically adjusts the checkout page to match the ad campaign. If you're running a Facebook ad in France, the checkout will show prices in euros with French payment options. That continuity is proven to lift conversion by ten to fifteen percent. But the platform doesn't replace a local marketing strategy — you still need to know which influencers to work with in Germany, what kind of content resonates in Japan. Luna: It's interesting because ten years ago, going global as a small DTC brand meant either using Amazon's marketplace or working with a distributor. The platforms we're talking about give you a direct relationship with the customer, even if the checkout is technically white-labeled. Lucas: That's the key differentiator. You own the customer relationship — you have their email, you can retarget them. With Amazon, you don't get that data. With Global-E or Digital River, the platform is invisible to the customer. The brand's name is on everything. So you build equity in your own brand, not in a marketplace. Luna: And the pricing of these platforms — is it worth it for a brand doing, say, fifty thousand dollars a year in international sales? Lucas: Most work on a revenue-share model, typically three to five percent of the transaction value plus a small per-order fee. For a small brand, that might be a couple thousand dollars a year. But you have to weigh that against the cost of doing it yourself — hiring a logistics manager, paying for multiple shipping integrations, dealing with customs brokers. For most brands under ten million in revenue, the platform is cheaper. Luna: So the takeaway for today's episode is: if you're a DTC brand thinking about international expansion, start with a platform. Don't try to build the infrastructure yourself until you have the volume to justify it. Lucas: And even then, watch the data ownership trade-off. But for now, the platforms are mature enough that the risk is low and the upside is huge. The question every brand should ask is not 'should we go global?' but 'which market should we enter first?' Luna: And maybe start with one region — like the UK or Germany — before launching into twelve at once. Lucas: Exactly. Test, learn, then scale. That's the DTC way.