Latest / Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast / Episode 21 - With Kyle Willmington @kylewill.tv
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- 0:05You are listening to Tom's Hirshprung's Podcast, where I provide a look into the
- 0:09remarkable experiences of the most inspiring people around Hirshprung's disease and sports. Hello and
- 0:39welcome to episode twenty one of Tom's Hirshprung's Podcast. Got something a little bit
- 0:44different today, something very special. Indeed, I am joined by Kyle Wilmington,
- 0:50who's going to be my guest for today. Kyle, welcome to the
- 0:53podcast. Thank you for having me now. Kyle, you are many many
- 0:59things from reading your Instagram, but you are an entrepreneur heavily into your fitness,
- 1:06which is see why one of the reasons I really wanted you on the
- 1:10podcast. You also have something called CMT or Sharko Marry Tooth, which we'll
- 1:17get into later on what that is, because obviously I hadn't hadn't heard of
- 1:21it before, and I'd be really interested to know if other people have heard
- 1:25a bit as well. But we'll definitely get into that as well. Fitness
- 1:29your wonderfully inspirational journey through fitness as well. But first of all, we'll
- 1:38sort of go right back to the beginning, so we take you back to
- 1:42sort of when you're sort of five five and a half years old and you're
- 1:49you're diagnosed with with this condition. Yeah, obviously trying trying to remember things
- 1:55when you're five years old is probably not the easiest thing in the world.
- 1:59But what do you remember from that time? I remember actually a couple of
- 2:07distinct conversations my parents were having with the neurologists, and it was basically like
- 2:14that my limbs were going to become weaker and um deformed pretty much. And
- 2:24I remember the distinct thing my mother said, and it was like, can't
- 2:29you just like break the bones and reset them? And I really hearing that
- 2:34as like a five year old and going, oh, that sounds fun,
- 2:38but because it was actually one of the surgeries they want you to have as
- 2:42you got older, is actually break your legs and then reset them and put
- 2:46them straight again. So yeah, that was one of the things I remember
- 2:51from the diagnosis back then, But that was never even really my true diagnosis
- 2:55to Charcott Marrituse back that they said in twenty or thirty years from them they
- 3:01would have way more answers and information on it, which they kind of do
- 3:07now. So yeah, fantastic, fantastic and just for a little sort of
- 3:12bit of background on what is sharkotberry too, because I'm obviously how to do
- 3:16my research about this because I haven't heard of it before. And for those
- 3:22wondering, it is nothing to do with teeth at all. It's something very
- 3:27very different. Indeed, So just to sort of like a little quick summer,
- 3:31what is sharkot perry tooth? So it's a new mascular disease that affects
- 3:37the peripheral nervous system, So meaning the further away the nerves move from the
- 3:43brain, the less signal they retrieve. So when you get to about just
- 3:47past the elbow and just above the knee, a lot of weakness occurs due
- 3:53to I have the functioning in my brain, but it just doesn't the signal
- 3:58doesn't quite get there. So over time, all of your outer extremities begin
- 4:03to get weaker and harder to control. So it's it is progressive and so
- 4:10as a child it wasn't as bad, but as you get older, it
- 4:13just gets worse and worse. And then some of the and this was was
- 4:20this picked up from birth or did this sort of take a little bit of
- 4:24time to diagnose? It was picked up at around just before age five is
- 4:29when I started tripping over my feet a lot, and my mom and family
- 4:33were like a little bit concerned. They're like, he keeps falling over a
- 4:36lot, like is he okay? And then they kept going to doctors and
- 4:40doctors were like, no, he's all right, whatever, He's just bumble
- 4:43footed. And then they ended up speaking a specialist help to see what was
- 4:46wrong, and that's when they did some nerve tests and found out that there
- 4:49was something wrong. Okay. So so from from that sort of initial diagnosis,
- 4:58and then around age seven, you moved from Sydney to where you are
- 5:03now sort of around the Gold Coast area. Yeah, I move tity.
- 5:09I moved to this South Coast which is down like Bateman's Bay area, which
- 5:13is kind of like twelve forty hours from here. And then I grew up
- 5:17in that country town sort of down there, right, Yes, yes,
- 5:23yeah, I'd got my Gold Coast to my South Coast mixed up? I
- 5:26think that fourteen hours, yeah, I think I Yeah, I'm new here.
- 5:30This is that I've been here about a year now, just over a
- 5:33year. I've been able a Gold Coast noice, enjoying the Gold Coast.
- 5:38It is the absolute best place in the world. But don't move here bar
- 5:41because there's too many people here already. So just everyone out there don't believe
- 5:44it's cool where they were happy. Everyone else stairway they can visit. I
- 5:48was totally wrong from that. But favorite parts about it. The energy here
- 5:57is uh, it's a fitness and health energy on the Gold Coast. Anyone
- 6:01that lives here would one hundred percent agree with me. You get up at
- 6:04six am or five am and you head out towards the beach and go for
- 6:09a walk, and there is people everywhere walking with coffees and happy and dogs
- 6:15and just moving. Most other places not one hundred percent like that that I've
- 6:19experienced. So but no sounds idyllic. Yeah, absolutely fantastic. But we
- 6:25won't publicize it too much. We won't publicize to bust this. Come in,
- 6:29Oh, come in. So speaking of fitness, one of the reasons
- 6:34obviously wants you on the podcast is you are very very heavy into your fitness.
- 6:39If anyone looks at your Instagram, they will definitely see that. If
- 6:45we sort of go through childhood, were you very much into fitness in childhood
- 6:49or then did that come more later in life. So I wouldn't say exactly
- 6:56I was into fitness as a child, but what I was into was fitting
- 7:00in. And my parents always not ones to say you can't do this,
- 7:04so you can't do that. It's you get involved and you do it the
- 7:08best you can. So playing soccer for me was extremely difficult. But I
- 7:12played soccer, you know, I would do higher jump, softball, basketball,
- 7:17all those sorts of things. And when it came to those if it
- 7:20was things that were very difficult for me to do, like the softball,
- 7:24I could hit the ball, but running the base and so I would normally
- 7:26always get out, So they'd get another student to be a runner for me
- 7:29and run the bases so that way I could hit the ball is still participate
- 7:33and with high junk they'd lower it right down and just things like that.
- 7:36So it was always like really inclusive and supportive in that sense. So I
- 7:40was always excited to just be a part of what everyone else was doing,
- 7:44even if it necessarily wasn't the best at it. Definitely, and I think
- 7:47that's something that's certainly come on definitely in the last or ten to fifteen years,
- 7:54is the more inclusivity, the more awareness around whether it be adapting sports
- 8:01or making entirely new sports, to just make sure that people people fit in
- 8:05and that people have a role and people have a job to do, rather
- 8:07than going, oh, you can't do this or you can't do that.
- 8:11So I'd becker that I think that's incredibly important to get everybody involved as as
- 8:16much and as safety obviously as possible, but definitely definitely to get involved.
- 8:22So then hyberbers there, yeah, for sure, But it's it's because it's
- 8:28too easy to go, oh you can't do this or can't do that or
- 8:31whatever. But that's just it's just not the right attitude, not certainly not
- 8:35nowadays. Nah. So then you sort of played played all all different sports
- 8:41growing up, So when when did sort of the gym work and sitness work
- 8:50tend to take over? So that didn't actually come in until roughly towards the
- 8:56end of twenty nineteen, so only about five years ago. Yeah, wow,
- 9:03okay, So and what sort of made you think, right, okay,
- 9:09I really want to get into gym work now. I was always very
- 9:13interested in the gym. I had a few people on social media over the
- 9:18years that I saw and was like, man, I would love to go
- 9:22to the gym. I'd love to look like that, but you know,
- 9:24like I always had other priorities and I would never prioritize the gym. So
- 9:30I was always like, Wow, that's amazing, and I would try and
- 9:33lose weight, but all a bunch of tires that early last a few weeks
- 9:35because I was truly truly uneducated on what to do. So I would keep
- 9:39trying here and there, but it never really stuck. And then when it
- 9:43came to the turning point of actually doing it, I was so overweight and
- 9:48so tired and so sore, and just I just did not like it didn't
- 9:54matter anything else I was doing. I just felt so horrible that I was
- 9:58like, I can't do this anymore. So this which is the time I
- 10:00do it? This is it this time? And so I actually educated myself
- 10:05on how to lose weight and what fitness does for you, and how fitness
- 10:09does for you, like not just I know I need to eat a little
- 10:11bit less and move more. So it can be as simple as complex as
- 10:15you want it to be. But if you don't know the basics like more
- 10:18than that, you're gonna have a really hard time. So I educated myself
- 10:24and began, and after the first like ten kilos came off, I was
- 10:28like, Okay, I'm liking this. I feel way less sore, I
- 10:31feel so much happier. People complimenting me on my face changing and I'm like,
- 10:35oh God, okay, we're on something that's happening here. Fantastic that.
- 10:43So you didn't hire coature or anything like that, and it was purely
- 10:46sort of self motivated, self driven, very much like that always be with
- 10:54whatever I do. I've always been like, Okay, I need to work
- 10:58this out on my own. I rarely ask for help. I've been like
- 11:01I've lived most of my life that way. It's like, I really just
- 11:03want to be if the independent is possible, and why while that may not
- 11:05be the smartest way when it comes to educating, it's just seems the bigger
- 11:09way that I learned best probably undiagnos ADYHD, but h yeah, that's a
- 11:15whole different discussion really, But we're not gonna sit and like nose you'reup here.
- 11:20Definitely not no, definitely no. So sort of very self motivates it
- 11:26in the fitness sense, was it sort of the same in was there sort
- 11:31of change in diet that you made or any sort of big steps in that.
- 11:35So my first changes were very simple because I didn't know what I was
- 11:39doing. I'd just said, like, my don't be disgusted by this,
- 11:43But my regular McDonald's order would have been like a large big macmeal with a
- 11:48full strength coke and like six nuggets, and I'd be getting that on drive
- 11:50through because I'd be working so much that I didn't have time to go and
- 11:54prioritize food, nor did I even care. But you know that would be
- 11:58you know, quite a lot of calories. So then one of my first
- 12:01change words, Okay, I'm still going to eat my McDonald's, but I'm
- 12:05going to get a small cheeseburger meal with a water or a coconut sugar.
- 12:09And then that was one of the small little shifts I did. And as
- 12:11I made all those, all the food that was eating the way it started
- 12:16to come off. So I was like, Okay, that works. That
- 12:20works, so what's it plateau? But I had to work out further what
- 12:24to do. Yeah, no, that makes that makes total sense. I
- 12:28mean, there's plenty of people have talked to whether it's exercise or diet or
- 12:35or anything really that you want to improve. Small changes tend to be the
- 12:39best rather than going in right, I'm going to you know, lose five
- 12:45stone in two weeks, and I'm going to do this, and I'm going
- 12:46to do that small, small, and often you know what I mean to
- 12:52use running as an example. Generally, if you want to start running,
- 12:56you don't start by running ten miles. You know, that's you know,
- 13:01you have to start small. You have to build an increment the otherwise it's
- 13:05it's just not it's just never gonna work. You're gonna give up too early,
- 13:07and then eventually you just sort of siddle out and go back to where
- 13:11you were, sort of back back to square one. So that's that definitely
- 13:15definitely sounds like sounds like something I've cod from people for and so then and
- 13:24sort of making small changes in diet that's going really well. You noticing change.
- 13:28It's sort of more positive changes. So then you start doing more gym
- 13:37work and sort of body building as such. When when did that sort of
- 13:41come around? So about six months into the weight loss, So at first
- 13:48I'll also mentioned I started doing five day at walks at the beginning of this
- 13:52journey as well, and that was basically all I could tolerate because that the
- 13:56pain was so much. So over time, when I started to lose a
- 13:58key, hear and then I'd be able to do a ten minute walk,
- 14:01a fifteen minute walk, and it kind of got a little bit better and
- 14:05better and better. And after six I'm going to say it was maybe it
- 14:09was three to six months. I lost the ten or fifteen heroes and and
- 14:15then I was like, Okay, I'm going to need to turn my fitness
- 14:18up now. And that's when COVID initial COVID hit, So I was like,
- 14:24oh no, I can't even go to the gym now. But I
- 14:28actually moved to the Northern Territory and up there my friend I moved in with
- 14:33he actually had a home gym which was just like a bench press and a
- 14:35couple of other little bits and pieces, and I had no idea what I
- 14:39was doing, but I was like, I'm going to continue this bit this
- 14:43journey right here. And I started working out this little home view every day
- 14:46just like half an hour. Like didn't know what I was doing, but
- 14:50I was just doing stuff. I just felt bets abore it and just coming
- 14:56in it felt I think, even if I wasn't get into any muscle stimulus
- 15:01or any true benefit of moving that weight around. Mentally, I felt accomplished
- 15:07and felt like I was doing something, and the weight started to come off
- 15:09faster because I was obviously building more calori is due to exercise, so the
- 15:16way kept coming off and I was like, Okay, this is good.
- 15:20I'm liking this, you know. And I learned more and more about the
- 15:22home gym a lot, watched a lot of videos online from a lot of
- 15:26creators, as there was a lot of free time in that kind of being
- 15:30lockdown. So yeah, no, it's so in terms of Australian lockdown,
- 15:39was everything pretty much just completely shut down. No gym, stone, nothing,
- 15:45no nothing, nothing nothing, you could do nothing. Yeah yeah,
- 15:52okay, so you'd sort of start start working out a little bit more in
- 15:58the home gym and start making gains and benefits. I think I'll pick up
- 16:03on one of the points you said there where he said, right, it's
- 16:07not just it's not just physical, it's mental emotional as well, And then
- 16:11that's something I definitely subscribe to and something I've seen happen with lots of people
- 16:17I work with, where it's it's people go in and they think, right,
- 16:22it's just totally about looking better or feel it or or you know,
- 16:26losing weight or putting more bustle on, whatever it might be that they do.
- 16:30But actually they find that mentally they feel better, emotionally they feel better,
- 16:36and the two or three go go completely hand in hand. So I
- 16:40definitely agree with you on that one. Yeah. So when so when you're
- 16:48doing a gym work, would were there any adaptations you had to make because
- 16:52of CMPT. Yes. So immediately I realized that any pulling mood of the
- 17:00I would need to do, I was immediately limited to a very low weight,
- 17:03like between like five or seven kilos. So anything I tried to pull
- 17:08or like you know, pull ups out of the question, anything like that,
- 17:11I just couldn't do it. So I was like, what do I
- 17:14do? So straight away when online looked for what you do to get past
- 17:17that, and I found like some lifting books and they just wrap around your
- 17:19wrists and like a big metal hook and you can just hook that onto something
- 17:23and you can just rip it. So I ordered them like straight away,
- 17:30and risk wraps to bench just to help stabilize my wrist a bit because I
- 17:33found I was getting enormous risk pain after the first couple of times of lifting,
- 17:37I was like, oh my god, this is horrible. But also
- 17:41not to mention, I had carpal tunnel before I started lifting, and then
- 17:45after lifting for six months it went away. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 17:51I had this mad, mad pains on the tops of my hands,
- 17:53and like after lifting it got worse and worse and worse, but then it
- 17:56went away. Wow, Oh I've that before. That's very interesting. Indeed,
- 18:03so do you sort of feeling physically better certain films and pain and pains
- 18:11are going away? Yeah, when did you start to sort of document this
- 18:18on Instagram? So really really sad that I didn't film more of my journey
- 18:26because I didn't film any of that one hundred when I was one hundred kilos,
- 18:29I didn't film anything there. I have a couple of photos, that's
- 18:33all I have, really have, but I never filmed anything from there.
- 18:36And then I filmed small increments of that part in Darwin after I'd already lost
- 18:40about fifteen heros, and then I filmed a little bit when I actually joined
- 18:48an actual gym. But even then I have such crazy gym anxiety just about
- 18:52being in the gym in the first place. Let alone trying to film in
- 18:56the gym before it came even more tabooed that it is now. Even back
- 19:02then it was still really scary film not they wouldn't get in trouble, just
- 19:04that someone would see you filming. So I only have really small snippets of
- 19:08that. So when it comes down to actually posting on social media, I
- 19:12didn't really start posting my finish journey on social media till twenty twenty one.
- 19:18So yeah, yeah, I'm missing a lot of the actual path. But
- 19:25it's good that you remember it and can talk about it and get it out
- 19:29sort of at least an audio format, even if it's not in video or
- 19:34picture format. But no, it's good. I think it's a fantastic stories
- 19:38idiot from anybody who is thinking I should probably do a bit of this or
- 19:44a bit of that, I think, right, well where do I start?
- 19:48And you said, well, start small, start small, build it
- 19:52up, and also I guess as well, find what you enjoy. So
- 19:56presuming gym is something you really really enjoy, it is something I really enjoy.
- 20:03Now. I have a very addictive personality, so I've gone through savage
- 20:07of my life addicted that so many different things and now, Jim is completely
- 20:12my addiction, like gym and fitness and like posting content around that. Puberly
- 20:18could not go a day without filming something like shit, it's no, Like,
- 20:23yeah, completely an addiction, but a good addiction. It's a good
- 20:29addiction. I think I would love to mention that with the addiction that if
- 20:33you have addiction to anything in life, that you do your best to shift
- 20:37that to something positive, because if you do have that adictive mindset, it's
- 20:42very hard to shift that. So shift it to something positive and that could
- 20:47look so different to so many people. Doesn't have to be fitness, Yeah,
- 20:51definitely, definitely, whether that's sort of helping people or or any other
- 20:56positive message really. Yeah, And speaking on helping people, one of your
- 21:03one of your main goals is to help and inspire others through mainly your content
- 21:11on Instagram. And you also have a community as well. Do you want
- 21:15to talk a little bit about that? Yeah? Sure, So. I
- 21:19what I think when I thought about creating my community, this has been like
- 21:23three years in the amazing at least, and I had no idea how I
- 21:29was going to pull this off, like what I actually wanted to do,
- 21:30because I knew do I wanted to find me five years ago, target me
- 21:37five years ago, and get them to join my community, because it wouldn't
- 21:41take them five years if they were in my community. It will take them
- 21:45six months in my community to get to where I am now because all that
- 21:51baby sit stamps that I took the toob all that time, and now I'm
- 21:53going to be in debt and people can just come in, take it in
- 21:59as they need and they can become like whatever they want to so much faster
- 22:04than I did, while while having people that will help them accountable all people
- 22:08doing the same exact thing. Yes, that's there's definitely. One of the
- 22:14one of the things I've seen in there is is accountability, which I again,
- 22:18when when you're when you're looking after your own fitness and your own health,
- 22:22diet, whatever. I think accountability is huge because it's too easy,
- 22:27and I've done it before. When you know there's a day where you should
- 22:32run or you should lift, or you should you know it's in the diary,
- 22:33and you go, ah, man, now maybe on today or maybe
- 22:40I was going to run three biles and I'll do one while or whatever,
- 22:42and I find, yeah, that message is really really important to take accountability
- 22:48of your own health and well being. Another part that I've seen on the
- 22:53community as well that I think is great is that it's full of very supportive
- 23:00people as well, because it again there's nothing worse than you know, people
- 23:04being negative about this and that and the other. I've found that being that
- 23:11within there there's a lot of positivity and a lot of supportive message. Is
- 23:15that something that you really strive for as well? So what I what I
- 23:19want this to be is a place that people feel safe to actually share and
- 23:25ask questions and progress as a person. Because when you post on social media
- 23:30per se, you are open to complete opinionated world. Depending on how many
- 23:36people view your thing, you make fit to complete the wrong audience and just
- 23:40get a spiral of negativity and trust I've been there, I've had a lot
- 23:44throughout my journey, and when it comes to that, that can be very
- 23:48demoralizing people to keep going with something because they're not getting that valid like that
- 23:53validity can say it validation right that they may be looking for, while it
- 24:00may not be what you should be looking for is validation from others. Sometimes
- 24:03that's all people need to just keep pull shit. So I want to encourage
- 24:08people to share in my community so they can be like only lost, you
- 24:11know, one hundred grams this week. But I stayed consistent, you know
- 24:14what I mean, and then it will go there. It's all good.
- 24:15It's all part of the journey, you know, don't stress. We've all
- 24:18been there, we're all doing it, you know. Whereas adding the actual
- 24:22world, it can be really open to just people just really speak in their
- 24:26mind. Yeah yeah, and then negativity all sound Yeah, there's no good
- 24:32for anybody anywhere, and you do find people that tend to feed off that,
- 24:37and I just try and lead those people well alone really yeah, and
- 24:45lead them to their own negativity rather than than positivity. But no, I
- 24:49think that's that's fantastic, fantastic endeavor. And speaking of endeavors, something that
- 24:55you've taken up fairly recently, within the sort of last month or so is
- 24:59your five pound plus one step challenge. Yeah, but all about ah.
- 25:04So another creator I was watching. I watch a bunch of different creators online
- 25:10that I just think are cool people and whatever they do, on' there to
- 25:14support it. And I don't know if you've seen the name come across a
- 25:17screen yet. His name's Tim Naki and he does blackjack bets right, And
- 25:22he did a series of betting ten cents for every Instagram for aller he gets,
- 25:25and he'll put it on a hand of blackjack anyway I can blow up
- 25:29to this absolutely crazy level. And he's doing one hundred thousand dollar blackhead blackjack
- 25:34hands now, yeah, which is just what right? And I remember seeing
- 25:40his series at like day fifty nine and watching how well it was going,
- 25:42and I was like, oh my god, I really want to get shredded
- 25:48and I really want to stay accountable for it. What's the way I can
- 25:52implement that with two instagram like that? And I went, you know what,
- 25:55I'm going to walk steps for every follower. I think that'll work.
- 25:59And on the second vide, it just went through the stratosphere, which I
- 26:02did not expect. And I had it initially. I was just doing I
- 26:07was going to do just the steps each day. I was accumulating so to
- 26:11be able to like seven thousand steps, eight thousand steps and a half hour.
- 26:14But then it blew up, so I ended up doing our half marathon
- 26:18by like day nine, and and then I was like, I have to
- 26:21change this up now, this is not sustainable. I can't stack fifty thousand
- 26:25steps on top of fifty five thousand steps on top of sixty thousand steps,
- 26:27Like, it's just not going to happen. So I changed it out of
- 26:30five thousand steps plus every follower overnight, and at the moment, it's still
- 26:33wonder three thousand followers a night coming on, so it's like eight thousand steps
- 26:37a day anyway. Yeah, I've been following those each day, and yeah,
- 26:42you look like you've you're a little bit tired of the end from a
- 26:45few of them. Ah. Yeah, Well it's you know, with anything
- 26:51like consistency and repetition, if you're doing like you're doing your whole life outside
- 26:56of these steps as well, and then you know some days, you know
- 27:00where you're like, oh, I really don't really want to go get my
- 27:02steps and today and you just don't. Well, in this case, I
- 27:03can't. It's I'm still just going or plug it away. And that's that
- 27:10accountability. We said as well, Yeah, exactly, Instagram has me accountable.
- 27:15If I miss a day, I know I'm going to get destroyed.
- 27:17I have to stay on yeah yeah yeah otherwise, yeah, otherwise people are
- 27:22going to say where have you been? Yeah? What's being going on,
- 27:26where's your steps? And I'll be like, I committed to this, I've
- 27:27got to do it. Yeah, yeah, no, But I think it's
- 27:32a fantastic initiative. I think it's a great idea. And I don't see
- 27:37anything wrong with taking an idea from somewhere and making it your own. I
- 27:41think that's absolutely brilliant. But yeah, he actually took it from somebody else
- 27:45as well. He took it from someone who was running one met of for
- 27:48every follower, So it all just innovated. That's how the best ideas go.
- 27:52It's just people take and they twist it or they make it their own.
- 27:56And yeah, nothing's new, everything's just recycled. Just go around with
- 28:00a bit that's right exactly. It's what people understand like, nothing is actually
- 28:04that unique. It's all just tweeks for everything that already exists, absolutely,
- 28:08especially the fitness world. Everything's in you twist of something or other. So
- 28:15just sort of as we sort of wrap up towards the end, future plans
- 28:22for you, future plans for the for the account, future plans for the
- 28:26community. What what do they look like in the next year, three years,
- 28:30five years, Do you think I'll be doing a lot more c and
- 28:36key content out there. It relates else we're inside and outside the community.
- 28:41So anyone watching CNT is watching this join the community, not just the fat
- 28:45loss. It is for just overall well being. And I want my Instagram
- 28:49to be like that as well, So inside outside both of those, I
- 28:53want to do a lot of public speaking and get on as many podcasts as
- 28:56I can, just to spread my message of being better and inspiring others to
- 29:02be better, like not just me. If they start looking after themselves,
- 29:06then they will inspire someone else to look after themselves, and then we get
- 29:07all just lidit happier and healthier, and it's just a continuous wheel of goodwood.
- 29:15A light rap, yeah, but a lot. But yes, you
- 29:18are very much welcome on here to spread your message at any time. Also,
- 29:23where where do people find you at the moment? Just just Instagram and
- 29:29my website is the easiest way to contact me both by the same. My
- 29:33website site is Kyle Will dot tv and make Instagram is Kyle Will dot tv.
- 29:37So oh system fantastic, Yeah, and make my Facebook the same and
- 29:42it's all the same. But yeah, I that's the only way to contact
- 29:48me. At the moment. Fantastic. Well. I wish you the best
- 29:52of luck with your your bodybuilding, your five thousand step challenge, the community
- 29:56as well. Or thank you so much for for taking the time out of
- 30:00your day as well to chat to me. Thank you very much, no
- 30:04problem at all. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Find us on
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