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221. SKIN expert talks how to get GLASS, GLOWING skin from the inside out with Renee 🧚🏻 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apodjey Production.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashi and I'm Tiana.
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  Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment.
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  Speaker 3: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most
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  Speaker 3: authentic version of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.
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  Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises. I am very
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  Speaker 1: excited about today's episode.
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  Speaker 4: Aren't we ready?
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  Speaker 2: Because it is all about skin. We actually have a
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  Speaker 2: skin expert on today to talk and debunk a lot
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  Speaker 2: of myths and stuff and just ask all the juicy
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  Speaker 2: questions on how to get the most perfect, glowing glass skin.
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  Speaker 1: That we all want. So welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Renee, thanks for being here, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: We're so excited to have you. So before we get
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  Speaker 2: into all the juicy questions about how to have beautiful
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  Speaker 2: glowy skin, could you give us a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: background about who you are, where your skin clinic is,
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  Speaker 2: and why you got into helping women with their skin beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: So, I'm Renee. My clinic is located in Concord on
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  Speaker 5: Major's Bay Road. I have been a skin expert. I
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  Speaker 5: graduated in two thousand and two, so that makes me
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  Speaker 5: feel really old.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, that's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: She really is an expert.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a long time now.
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  Speaker 5: But coming out of college, I had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: work in a really amazing clinic who taught me everything
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  Speaker 5: I needed to know about skin. And once I started
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  Speaker 5: to see the skin transformation in clients and the confidence
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  Speaker 5: that I actually could give someone and change their life
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  Speaker 5: by fixing their skin, that just drove my passion and
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  Speaker 5: my determination to really dig a lot deeper into skin.
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  Speaker 5: And it's found me here five years into having my
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  Speaker 5: own business, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. And when you said change it
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  Speaker 2: was lives. It sounds dramatic, but as someone who suffered
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  Speaker 2: with acne, it destroyed my confidence. It prevented me from
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  Speaker 2: showing up. I felt ugly over I was. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: take opportunities like it really did impact my life in
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  Speaker 2: such a negative way. So I can really see how
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  Speaker 2: rewarding your job must be to help people with their
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  Speaker 2: skin issues to actually be able to let their personality shine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely it's what gets me up every morning. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: We love that passion in that drive. I also experienced
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  Speaker 3: something similar as well. I end up going on rohacitating twice,
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  Speaker 3: which I would not recommend to anyone, But it was
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  Speaker 3: before there was the right information around that, just because
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  Speaker 3: my skin was so bad when I was young and
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  Speaker 3: just didn't know the right information or where to go,
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  Speaker 3: where to turn to. But it definitely does impact you,
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  Speaker 3: and it's one of those things that you don't realize
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  Speaker 3: how much it impacts you until you either go through
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  Speaker 3: it or like yourself, see the transformation of how people
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  Speaker 3: feel on the other end of that.
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  Speaker 1: So true, I would love to know, just to start
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  Speaker 1: off with a bit of fun, what's the craziest skin
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  Speaker 1: advice or statement that someone said to you coming into
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  Speaker 1: the clinic.
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  Speaker 5: Ah, the craziest thing that they've done. I would think
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  Speaker 5: it's the toothpaste.
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  Speaker 1: You know that when I was younger, Oh, what what
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  Speaker 1: do you do that way on your skin?
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  Speaker 2: If you get a pinple, put toothpaste on it to
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  Speaker 2: dry it out. I used to that, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 5: About never never do that. Go to sensitize and irritate
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  Speaker 5: your skin and probably make the pimple worse.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny you said that because I literally did
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  Speaker 2: that as a teenager.
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  Speaker 4: That's so funny. The things that we do right when
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  Speaker 4: we're desperate, we're like, I'll do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know your thoughts on beef tallow
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  Speaker 2: as a moisturizer.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have thoughts on it because it's just a no.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's all a trend. So look, it's not scientifically proven,
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  Speaker 5: it's not created by a skin specialist or a skin expert,
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  Speaker 5: and it's just like putting you know, lemon juice in.
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  Speaker 5: It's all a trend and a fad. So for me,
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  Speaker 5: beef tallow or anything else that is trending, I think
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  Speaker 5: unless it's really tested, proven, created by a chemist or
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  Speaker 5: a skin specialist, even a dermatologist, I don't know many
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  Speaker 5: dermatologists that hype on about beef tallow.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big fat no for me. Yeah, I've heard
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of sits on the skin too.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I've had a lot of skin experts say,
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  Speaker 2: is like it might feel glowy or hydrated, but it
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  Speaker 2: kind of just sits on the skin, doesn't actually penetrate, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's just an inclusive so it will feel good topically,
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  Speaker 2: but it cannot penetrate through the skin, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it will actually make change to the cells. When
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  Speaker 2: you want to change the way the skin functions, you
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  Speaker 2: need to actually use products.
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  Speaker 1: And ingredients that are going to hit the cells.
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  Speaker 5: Beef tallow will not get to that point in the
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  Speaker 5: skin or push through the domos or epidermis to actually
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  Speaker 5: make long term change.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, not me, not me having put it on
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  Speaker 3: this morning feeling called out. Yes, yes, I use it
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  Speaker 3: for cerisis and I feel like that helps. But then
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  Speaker 3: sometimes every now and again, I'll put it on my
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  Speaker 3: neck and my face and I'm just like, okay, won't
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  Speaker 3: be doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Rene has some products you can recommend to us.
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  Speaker 1: At the end, I am all that's a question we've got.
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  Speaker 2: What would you say in your clinic is the biggest
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  Speaker 2: skin struggles with women age say twenty to thirty five
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  Speaker 2: at the.
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  Speaker 5: Moment, definitely acneum breakouts. That is such a big, big
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  Speaker 5: skin condition. Through our early twenties, we're still in a
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  Speaker 5: very big hormonal cascade, so our hormones still haven't settled.
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  Speaker 5: Then we go through another influx come late thirties, so
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  Speaker 5: women start to go through what's called adult acne, and
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  Speaker 5: that's when it sort of started to happen for me
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  Speaker 5: at about thirty eight. So I think it's starting to
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  Speaker 5: progress through women at that age, but I see more
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  Speaker 5: of a breakout acne and scarring as a big skin
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  Speaker 5: concern for women between the twenty plus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, scarring is a big thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so interesting as well.
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  Speaker 3: What do you feel like when you see all these
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  Speaker 3: women come through your clinic and you witness them go
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  Speaker 3: through the emotional challenges and struggles from things like acne
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  Speaker 3: and you know, coming.
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  Speaker 4: Through with like this scarring and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think is the most common like mindsets
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  Speaker 3: or emotional states that a lot of women are like
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  Speaker 3: dealing with between that age gap.
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  Speaker 2: Is that related to the skin problem? Yeah, behind it absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: So it's so frustrating for women, especially when you grow
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  Speaker 5: up and you've always had good skin and then to
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  Speaker 5: come into your twenties or your thirties and you start
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  Speaker 5: to break out and you don't understand why. I think
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  Speaker 5: for us being in a clinic and being skin experts,
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  Speaker 5: we always have.
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  Speaker 1: To go back to the root.
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  Speaker 5: So we always when we do a skin consultation, it's
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  Speaker 5: not just oh, you have a breakout, how are we
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  Speaker 5: going to fix this? It's like, Okay, let's dig in
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  Speaker 5: and find out when was your last bloods? Have you
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  Speaker 5: checked your hormone levels, what's your sleep like, what are
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  Speaker 5: your stress levels like?
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  Speaker 1: What's your job? You know? Are you getting enough sleep?
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  Speaker 1: What's your diet like?
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  Speaker 5: So all of these factors, especially as we get busier
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  Speaker 5: in life in our twenties, in our thirties, all of
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  Speaker 5: those things kind of slide under the radar, but they
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  Speaker 5: affect your skin in so many ways that women aren't
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  Speaker 5: really aware of. They just see a pimple or a breakout,
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  Speaker 5: and it really affects their confidence. You'll find that they'll
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  Speaker 5: wear heavier makeup. Especially nowadays working and we're doing a
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  Speaker 5: lot of zoom meetings. I have clients always using filters
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  Speaker 5: or wearing heavy, heavy makeup to cover because they don't
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  Speaker 5: want to see themselves in the camera, see their reflection.
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  Speaker 5: It's a self esteem It just drags you down, and
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  Speaker 5: I think it affects teams, But as you get into
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  Speaker 5: your twenties and thirties, I feel like it affects you
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more because you feel like you should
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  Speaker 5: be past that stage.
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  Speaker 3: Ye, there's like self judgment around that of like, well,
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  Speaker 3: why have when't I figured this out yet? Why kind
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  Speaker 3: of get my skin the way that I want it
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  Speaker 3: to be already?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you do feel like that.
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  Speaker 2: I had acting in my teen years and then I
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  Speaker 2: went on a pil which helped clear it up. And
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  Speaker 2: then at like twenty two or something, I went off
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  Speaker 2: the pill because I wanted to be all natural. My
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  Speaker 2: skin went so crazy, and then, yeah, as an adult,
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  Speaker 2: I felt so much more embarrassed, and I was also
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  Speaker 2: in the health space. I think people expected me to
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  Speaker 2: look healthy because I did all the healthy things, but
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  Speaker 2: my skin was obviously reacting to being on the pill
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  Speaker 2: for so many years. What's your opinions on that women
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  Speaker 2: going on the pill and that affecting their skin. Is
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  Speaker 2: that a conversation that you have in the clinic.
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  Speaker 5: Quite often, I do talk to a lot of women
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  Speaker 5: about the pill, And for me, I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: a doctor a GP. If your hormones are really out
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  Speaker 5: of whack and that's you know, their recommendation, or if
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  Speaker 5: you're on it for intimacy issues, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: tell you to come off the pill. Yeah, but if
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  Speaker 5: you're on it purely for skin, I always advise clients
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  Speaker 5: come off it and if we can really not fix it,
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  Speaker 5: then go see a natural path and go down the
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  Speaker 5: healthy way, because the pill is just masking everything that's underlining.
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  Speaker 5: The pill is just tricking your body to be pregnant
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  Speaker 5: and it's not actually fixing the skin. And we have
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  Speaker 5: so many clients that once they come off the pill,
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  Speaker 5: just like you, it flares up and it comes back
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  Speaker 5: even sometimes worse because you don't really know what your
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  Speaker 5: skin was like before the pill.
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  Speaker 4: So true, So interesting, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that's maybe why your skin then reacted
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  Speaker 3: once you came off, because it was having that effect.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely. It was a horrible experience to go through. And
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  Speaker 2: I think when your skin gets really bad too. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you experienced this with your clients too,
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  Speaker 2: but I was just like, the more I clean my skin,
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  Speaker 2: the better, Like I have to scrub it off, so
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  Speaker 2: I'd go crazy with scrub like Apricott scrubs and gloves cleanses,
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  Speaker 2: which is obviously destroying my skin barrier. Could you talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more about maybe some of the mistakes
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  Speaker 2: people make with their skin routine that's actually making their
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  Speaker 2: skin worse.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, you just said its skin saint ives scrub, I
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  Speaker 5: guess I use that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, So that's a big fat no.
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  Speaker 5: So I think what clients do, and especially with acne,
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  Speaker 5: even pigmentation, because having pigmentation, your skin looks dirty.
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  Speaker 1: So all you want to do is get a.
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  Speaker 5: Scrub and just scrub it away or use the AHA,
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  Speaker 5: thinking that it's going to be able to clean it topically.
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  Speaker 5: But what you're actually doing is you're just stripping your
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  Speaker 5: skin from its natural moistures. You're not allowing your skin
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  Speaker 5: to repair itself properly. You are causing more irritation, long
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  Speaker 5: term sensitivity to your skin's barrier. You create what's called
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  Speaker 5: trans epidomal water loss, where your skin itself cannot contain
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  Speaker 5: or hold water, and then you end up with dehydrated skin.
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  Speaker 5: So it just creates a big cascade effect of creating
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  Speaker 5: more skin issues by using harsh ingredients, a lot of actives.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying actives aren't good, especially for acne skinned,
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  Speaker 5: but what you have to do is you've got to
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  Speaker 5: calm the skin. It's a journey, so you have to
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  Speaker 5: calm the skin first, use the right products. Then you
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  Speaker 5: go into treating, and that's when you introduce your actives
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  Speaker 5: when your skin is healthy enough to take those active
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  Speaker 5: ingredients without causing more irritation.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: This is why I have such.
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  Speaker 5: A passion in what I do and I take my
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  Speaker 5: time with clients and it's a two way relationship. I
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  Speaker 5: am all in with you on your journey. I just
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  Speaker 5: need you to be consistent back with me. And I know,
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  Speaker 5: especially with acne, it is such a hard journey because
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  Speaker 5: your skin will go through a purge. You know, your
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  Speaker 5: skin has to get worse before it gets better, and
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  Speaker 5: that's when a lot of clients fall off and they
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  Speaker 5: lose trust in the process because their skin has had
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  Speaker 5: a massive purge. But I say, embracelet have a purge
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  Speaker 5: party because better ausan in right.
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  Speaker 1: I love that sarch party.
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  Speaker 3: That's so good, such a good way to bring play
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  Speaker 3: to it, especially something that's so emotionally charged as well,
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  Speaker 3: especially like our skin.
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  Speaker 2: You said mentioned before that your skin is a reflection
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  Speaker 2: of what's going on internally. Could you talk more about
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  Speaker 2: gut health and how that's in relation to how our
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  Speaker 2: skin is presenting on the outside.
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  Speaker 5: If you have what's called a leaky gut, for example,
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  Speaker 5: you could be eating everything right, you could be having
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  Speaker 5: the right juice, is the right diet, But if you
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  Speaker 5: have a leaky gut and your gut microbiome is not
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  Speaker 5: able to ingest all of those good nutrients and your
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  Speaker 5: body just doesn't take it in, and it's kind of
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  Speaker 5: like a two way street. What comes in goes back
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  Speaker 5: out again, it's going to reflect out on your skin.
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  Speaker 5: If you have an imbalance in your gut microbiomes, if
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  Speaker 5: you have an overload of bad bacteria, sometimes even a parasite,
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  Speaker 5: a bacterial bud that you don't even know that you have.
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  Speaker 5: All of that impacts your skin, so it's got to
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  Speaker 5: come out somewhere. Even our diet, you know, having a
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  Speaker 5: lot of processed food sugars, that all impacts our guts
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  Speaker 5: and it could create like a toxic overload. And if
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  Speaker 5: your liver is not detoxifying that properly and well enough,
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  Speaker 5: then that shows up in the skin. So if your
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  Speaker 5: liver is not detoxifying properly, so if you've got what's
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  Speaker 5: called a fatty liver, that skin condition to follow.
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  Speaker 1: That would be something like rosatia.
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  Speaker 5: So if you don't detoxify properly internally, it will always
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  Speaker 5: show and present on the skin one way or another.
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  Speaker 5: And then you also have to look at stress and
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  Speaker 5: stress internally. Yes, it relates to gut because of your
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  Speaker 5: gut hormones and your insulin, but stress can play a
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  Speaker 5: massive part in the way your skin conditions present on
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  Speaker 5: the face as well as inflammation in the gut. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of like a cascade effect of everything.
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  Speaker 4: So it really yeah, so interesting, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: So in terms of something like having leaky gut and
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  Speaker 3: all those different things like having a parasite and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that, what ways would that show up in the skin.
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  Speaker 3: Does it all look the same or does it come
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  Speaker 3: out as life differently? In your opinion, it can all
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  Speaker 3: come out slightly differently. So for me last year or
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  Speaker 3: the year before, I actually did a gut cleanse. I
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  Speaker 3: did a bit of a detox and I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: it at the time, but I did have a bacteria
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  Speaker 3: in my belly. I had cebo bacteria, and as I
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  Speaker 3: was going through this whole process, my skin started to
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  Speaker 3: purge and.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 5: Only to do some tests and found out that I
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  Speaker 5: had the bacteria, but it purged and represented like roseatia. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so rosetia is fine little acne spots that come and
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  Speaker 5: go and very red and very vessel like. So that's
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  Speaker 5: a big trigger from something like bacteria overload in the gut.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas if you have a parasite, for example, or a
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  Speaker 5: leaky gut, that can represent in the face as acne.
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  Speaker 5: So acne is a really big common skin condition that
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  Speaker 5: forms from bacteria, from a parasite, from a leaky gut.
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  Speaker 5: Pigmentation is more so inflammation, So if you've got a
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  Speaker 5: inflammatory diet or if you're highly stressed, pigmentation especially malasma
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  Speaker 5: is driven more from that as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Relate malasma to pregnancy quite a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Like a lot of women that are pregnant get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of malasma, right, they do, because it's a hormone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a hormone imbalance. So malasma is driven by a
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  Speaker 2: lot of internal factors. Pregnancy is one, it's a hormone imbalance.
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  Speaker 2: Stress is another one, So stress can really impact malasma.
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  Speaker 2: Medications some medications can bring a malasma.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, malasma is more of an.
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  Speaker 5: Internal trigger and internal form of pigment rather than topical. Right,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think about psoriasis, Because that's what Tiana
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  Speaker 5: suffers with.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a coople girlfriends that do as well. What's
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 5: So psoriasis is also driven by an internal factor, So
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  Speaker 5: I would say to someone with coriasis dermatitis, look at
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  Speaker 5: your diet, look at your inflammatory responses. I would go
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  Speaker 5: and seek advice from a natural path as well, and
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  Speaker 5: then just be really mindful of what you're putting on
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  Speaker 5: your skin because you want to be working with repair.
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  Speaker 5: You want to be working with seramides and nourishing ingredients
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  Speaker 5: that are going to help calm the skin rather than
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  Speaker 5: trying to exfoliate it away or really just try and
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  Speaker 5: take that dry skin away. You want to just work
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  Speaker 5: on This is where you go into barrier repair with
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  Speaker 5: skins like soriasis and eczema. But it's all stems from
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  Speaker 5: internal So I would definitely think of doing some gut
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: cleans work, seeing a natural path to work alongside a
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: skin expert, so you hitting it at both ends internally
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: and externally.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Love that, Yeah, I definitely feel like things that I eat,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Like if I eat gluten, it flares it up immediately.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: When I used to drink, which I haven't for a
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: few years now, but back when I was around eighteen,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I remember I would drink something like vodka and immediately
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the next day my skin would be so flared up.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: And I also have been to a nutropath before and
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: have had two gown protocols for leaky gut and things
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: like that, so I'm sure it all like ties in.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: So if I'm walking into your which is called skin clinic,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm like Rene, I want glass glowing skin. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: want the best treatment, the best products. What are you
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: going to give me? I don't care what it costs,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care my downtime. What is the best treatment
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: that you can make me look like a glowing, glazed doughnut.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I love that.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: If you came into the clinic and said that to me,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: I would recommend you one treatment. But before I did that,
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I would say, Ash, it's not just one treatment that's
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: going to give you that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Weeks.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: But for me, I think what's been a big game
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: changer in my clinic, which I am so grateful to have,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: is my.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Ultra clear laser. So Ultra Clear is very similar to
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a CO two laser.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: It is like a resurfacing laser, but it uses cold fiber,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: which means that you get less downtime and it keeps
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: the skin in nice healthy state over what you would
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: do with the CO two laser. So we've been getting
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the best results incorporating that treatment in with other services.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: The results are just out of this world. So I'm yeah,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: ultracally by far to hear that, because the CO two
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: laser looks so intense.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I sent you a video last night. Her face was
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: a bird bleeding swollen. It looks like you need at
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: least two weeks down to I'm like, I don't have
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: time for that. It looks brutal, so brutal.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Ital Yeah, the results are good, but that's just thing.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: It uses a lot of heat to get the results,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: whereas ultra cly, you're looking at probably five day downtime,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: and that's still you're able to wear makeup and go
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: to work and achieve the results that you need. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: what I really loved about Ultra clear is that it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: just so diverse. So I can use this on dark skins,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: black skins, African skins, American skins, Asian skins, whereas CO
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: two you can't. It's only very limited to who you
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: can treat. So that's great to know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I am looking when I come to s Yes, honestly,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: that's sus done. So that's the treatment. What do you
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: think about skin needling? So I love to get skin needling,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: but I just find I'm not as consistent. But what
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts on skinkneeling in general? Do you do
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: that your clinic? Yes, we do.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I absolutely love skinned needling for collagen induction therapy. We
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: actually have just introduced a new device to the clinic,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: a medical grade one, so I'm so pumped for that.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great treatment. It treats everything all round.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: It treats pores, it treats skin laxity, it treats scarring pigmentation.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: The only skin you wouldn't do it on is a
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: really inflamed acneede skin because if you can, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: spread the bacteria. But for me, skin needling is probably
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: my second favorite treatment in clinic. But we do that
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: in combination with ultracle and.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: So with that, what would you recommend for somebody who,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: let's say, does have the active acne and like they're
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: wanting to go through the process of eventually going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: skin needling.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: But where would they start.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: What's their journey look like with you?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: If they come into the clinic that got like system acne,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: that helped me, I'm here for twelve months, what are
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you going.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: To do with me? Yeah?
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: I love this question. So first we work on a
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: repair phase. So I have created packages for every skin condition.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I love that in those conditions. Yeah, it's been quite
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: good because, like I said, it's a journey. So there
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: are ten to eleven month skin journey and in that
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: how I tackle skin in any skin condition is working
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: with the repair phase first. So it's just like running
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: a marathon. You're not going to go and run a
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: marathon without training your body or getting it ready to
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: do that. So with acne, I would work on the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: inflammation first. So we do a lot of calming facials.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: We use a lot of ingredients that are anti inflammatory.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: We do some enzymes by DMK which loved their face.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Such a good rund.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every day over here.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: The hope and minerals for Yeah, that range itself and
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the education is what got me into skin and that's
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: what kind of drove me to I am today, So
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: DMK has had a big impact on my journey so far.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That's cool. I've used it for years as well. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: The contraderm, the beta gel, have mineral, the enzyme facials,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: they're so good.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, I've had the end facials. It's so good.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Alcalin treatment. I love that. It's all the hair of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: your face too, defuzz the head. So yeah, that's where
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I kind of start.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: So enzymes are great to repair because they work on
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: your lymphatic system and calm the skin. And then once
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: we've cleared the acne, then we go into treat and
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: that's when you bring out your lasers and your skin
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: needlings and things like that, and then we go into
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: maintenance after that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Beautiful.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I have a question you I would love to know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: like for someone who, let's say, who's struggling with like
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: dark circles under their eyes, or they're struggling with bags,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: they're looking super tired and they wanted to like freshen up.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: What kind of treatment would you recommend for something like that?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: The summon sperm. I feel like everyone's raving about the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: underad I'm curious about.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I've seen it looks interesting.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It looks interesting. I've never had it done.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I can't really comment on that because I just don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: know how well salmon sperm actually works inside our skin.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: But I mean the results sometimes speak for themselves. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: if it works for you, amazing totally. What we do
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: is we do.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Biomicro needling around the eyes. Have you ever heard of that?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I'm let me write this down, actually tell us so.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Biomicro needling small little spicules which are found from bone
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: jealous sea sponge, So it's very similar to skin needling,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: but you massage these fine little spicules around the eye
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: area and it's the most comfortable treatment. But what it
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: does is creating very small micro channels in the skin,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: and that's infusing hydrating ingredients, brightening ingredients. It's a very
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: luxy treatment and then the results are amazing.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It's going to help with your.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Dark circles, hydration, fine lines. So you can have that
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: done every two weeks.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing. But if you've wanted to really target
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: fire lines, wrinkles, skin laxity, I would recommend tixel. So
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: we also have another treatment. It's a medical device. Never
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: heard of tixel?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: No, Okay, So much.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it, We're coming.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: This is not on the Gold Coast, no ah, really Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Tixil is a medical device, so it uses pure fomal
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: heat so it's not a laser. And we can take
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: tixel right up to the lash line and ride.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Up over the lids.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: And what it does is it infuses heat into the
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: skin and then it contracts your collagen and elastin fibers,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: so you get a tightening effect. It works on your
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: own natural hyaluronic so it's going to increase hydration. It
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: works a lot better for fine lines and wrinkles and
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: also droopy eyes, so that would be another recommendation. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: actually love to do them in combination, so I'll do
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: a biomicro needling one week, tixel your next and then.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: We kind of combine it like that. That's really cool.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Can we book in?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I would love to know. I love products. I love
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: trialing products.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I always have my staple DMK and a couple of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: from SME as well.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of Koream skincare products.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of brands out there, if anyone's listening there, Like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I just am so confused. There's so much noise on
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: social media. I'm being influenced left, right, and center. What
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: is like one product that you think we'd all benefit from.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: What's the brand? Do you sell it? Where do we
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: get it from? Like one product that you like every
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: girl needs this in their life?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my question. There's not just one product.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I mean everyone needs an SPF, so like that's just
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: a non negotiable for me. But you've just got to
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: make sure you're using a good SPF. I think for me,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: every skin condition stems from inflammation, so I would be
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: working on Can I give you two Yeah? Absolutely, Okay,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I would say be to gel from DMK.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I would put that into everybody skin care because that
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: is going to help to increase those immune cells and
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: really just get that skin nice and healthy. But then
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I also love Epicutis. Have you heard of Epicutis? No
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: with cerisis you need Epicutis cool. Epicutis works on inflammation.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: There's only a few products in the range, but their
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: lipid serum is the most powerful anti inflammatory product that
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: I have pretty much on my shelf. It works on
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: calming the skin but also hydration, so it has the
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: highest form of hyaluronic acid. That's not injectable, that's in
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: a serum that when you put on it's like a
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: big drink of water for the skin, but it will
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: calm all inflammation. So I think for me, either one
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: of those two.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's so good. I'm like, I'm going to need
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to write this down.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you are epicutus epicutis.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: But someone who doesn't suffer from ceriasis, would you still
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: recommend that second? Because I already used Beta Joe and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I would do lipid therum anyway because of the hydration
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: factors in it, Like it's just it's like liquid in
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: a bottle. But then they also call it neurofin in
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: a bottle because it takes down inflammation.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, And.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Anyone who's not in Sydney, just okay, us do you
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: sell this on the website.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: We can just put it in my shop. I post
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that out to you. So yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: But also if anyone's not in Sydney and they go
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: onto my shop and are so confused, I do offer
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: a complementary discovery calls that you can hop on a
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: front with me. We can do like a little consultation.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: We can do it via zooms if you need me
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: to see your skin, and I'm more than happy to
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: help you with prescription, no strings attached. I just want
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: what's best for you and to make sure you're using
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: the right thing for you, because I hear the noise
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: out there, and that's why I kind of block my
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: ears to it, and when I bring in a new
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: skincare line into the clinic, I really do my research
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: and really understand who it's going to help, why do
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I need it in the business, and what gap it's
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: going to feel for me, because it's just so overwhelming
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: for consumers, and I really feel for everyone who doesn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: understand it. And if I can give any advice is
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: seek advice before going to buy things, because the long
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: term effects you can have on your skin using the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: wrong products is deprimentory.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Really. I think, Yeah, that's.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So interesting too, because it's not a one size fits
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: all when it comes to skin, and it's so unique
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to every single person. So the fact that you're for
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: that is so incredible.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Absolutely beautiful.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Definitely, I'd love to move on to a little bit
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of the business side of things. I know you're a
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: sassy businesswoman who's built an incredible brand and your husband
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: is a stay at home dat is that correct?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: That's correct? Yeah, could you.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Walk us through your business journey because we have a
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of females that listen, a lot
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of entrepreneurs and women are trying to make it in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: business and busy mums trying to juggle or also I'd
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: love to hear your journey and any advice you have anything.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'd love to share my journey. So I was
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: in the industry two thousand and two and then I
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: pretty much became manager and man clinics up until I
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: had my first baby, and so she's now fourteen.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And then I went back part time.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: I was working from home as well, so I was
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: juggling her part time work work from home. My husband
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: had his own business as well on the side, so
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: it was pretty full on. And then eighteen months later
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: I had baby number two. A couple of weeks later
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: went back to work. I loved what I did. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: didn't want to miss out. So I was working from
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: home in my garage and working in the city a
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: couple of days a week just to keep my foot
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: in the door. And then I had another two babies
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: after that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Wow, four kids, four kids.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she'm a busy mama.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I am a busy mama, but they're such a blessing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I love them to death. So I've been in the
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: business now for five years. So when I first took
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: over the business, my husband was still working. We literally
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: bought our cell on three months before the second lockdown.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, so it's tough.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: And then through COVID, we were doing a lot of
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: online sales, which kept us afloat and it was a
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: good time actually, just to really focus on what we
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: wanted to do. When we reopened in October, and once
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: we did and guns were blazing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We were so busy.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: My kids were just I had help, but they were
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: just everywhere and nowhere and no routine. And my husband
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: was like, right, something's got to give, because you need
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: to be in the business. My kids are very athletics,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: so there's something on every afternoon. So he sold his
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: business and he's been at home since.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And I tell you what, to.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: The moms out there, there was a season for me
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: to be in that role, and I feel like now
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: it's his time because he has got so much discipline,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: so much structure. The kids are in such good routine
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: that I think they would probably walk all over me
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: as teams we fill at home.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I love hearing those.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: In today's modern society, there was a lot more stay
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: at home dads. Also a lot of conversations around and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: sometimes somewhat negative. But I've never heard it being worded
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like that that men do have a really good structure
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and kids love boundaries, They love safety, they love knowing
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: what's coming next because they don't have to think or
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: be nervous.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I really love to hear that that's cool.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it works. It's worked for us, and he
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: loves it. So his relationship with the kids is amazing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have it any other way. So that's where
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I've kind of started. I just wanted my own business.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I was ready.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: My kids were older, they were a little bit more mature,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: a bit self reliant, and I was ready just to
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: take on responsibility and do what I wanted to do
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: to really help people more, because that's what I'm here for.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: My purpose is to make people feel confident in their skin.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: So it was hard to do it working under people
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: because they don't always have the same vision and value
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: as you.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, running your own ship, I love that. Yeah, I'm curious.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You said you've got a fourteen year old daughter.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Do you find teenagers are getting the periods, having skin
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: issues way younger? Is your daughter experiencing any of that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: or do you just find like her group of girlfriends
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: are experience Because I feel like little girls getting the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: periods like nine, ten years old.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Now, that was not a thing when I was younger.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'm turning thirty eight this year, but we didn't get
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: out periods to like fifteen sixteen, and now it's like
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: nine and ten.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she got hers in year six. Actually she'd probably
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: be mortified if I'm talking about.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: It, but that's five, age twelve. You got those in
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: ye six. But she was quite young, and she's very
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: lucky too.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: She gets a little bit of I know, the week
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: before she's going to get her period, because she'll end
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: up with like a trail of acne spots down here.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: But she's really good. I've gotten her on a really
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: good home care routine. I've also gotten my son onto
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: some products and my eleven year old.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: So they're all really structured in I'm like, have you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: done your skincare, have you lang your skin tonight? So
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I love that start them young. I wish I started
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: younger taking care of her skin.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: No what to do?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Even all of the lack of information that I had,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and also that my parents had at that age. When
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I look back, I'm like, oh no, it was definitely
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  Speaker 3: like my food. It was definitely my food and sugars
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  Speaker 3: and all those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's really common these days, and I see
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  Speaker 5: a lot of teens with acne, and I definitely think
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  Speaker 5: that it is a lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: It is diet.
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  Speaker 5: It's the hormones that we have in our food, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Not only that, it's the stress, like social media, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: we're in that process of banning phones, so when they
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: come home it's like no phone. You've only got it
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  Speaker 5: for half an hour and an evening. But that impact
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: of stress and high cortisol, we don't realize what is
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: actually doing to their skin, to their mental state, especially
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  Speaker 5: as teens. So I think it doesn't have to be.
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  Speaker 5: And when I get mothers come in saying I don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: want to do heavy treatments on my kids, or I
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: don't want to overdo their treatments or their skincare.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You don't have to. You can keep it.
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  Speaker 5: Really simple with good skincare, medical based skin care that
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: is going to help their skin, not strip them skin away,
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  Speaker 5: and do treatments in clinic once every maybe eight weeks,
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  Speaker 5: just to give them that extra exfoliation.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm always about keeping the skin in a healthy state,
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  Speaker 5: So I would never go in and do a facial
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  Speaker 5: on a teen where I'm going to peel them and
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: then they end up with red, raw skin.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not so.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's really important also for parents to understand
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  Speaker 5: that if you don't get on top of a teen
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  Speaker 5: acne earlier on the chances of them with scarring and
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  Speaker 5: long term effects. They're going to be a lot worse
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  Speaker 5: than what it would be if you treated them while
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: it was still kind of active and while they were
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: a little bit younger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for moms to hear this. I remember
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  Speaker 2: for Easter one year, I think it was like thirteen
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  Speaker 2: or fourteen. Instead of getting chocolate, my mum bought me
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a clearer cel kit. Oh.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I love that. I was like, are you fucking kidding?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's my chocolate, my chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: And now looking back on like those products were probably
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: so bad, like I remember them being quite scrubby as well.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you know that feeling when your skin feels clean.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But do all your natural oils soap on your face? Yes?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I think so bad. Bleach wasn't clear as so, like
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: really high, and so I think you're thinking of proactive.
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  Speaker 1: Oh proactive? I use that also? Did I bad?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Because Justin Bieber was even like an ambassador for it
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at one point?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh shit, they definitely a good fear. No, I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: so curious. Does your husband get on the bandwagon too?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You know how people make jokes about how men use
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: like three in one products and their whole body shampoo conditioner,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and then.
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  Speaker 4: We have like an eight step skincare.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: When I first met him, he was a body wash
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: and loofer guy, and I was like mortified, going but
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: he has good skin. He's an islander, so he's always
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: had great skin. And now yes, now he's like, okay,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: what do I use now?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So I have to line them up.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: I only use this three But every day I'm like,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: have you got your SPF on?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Have you got your SPF on? And he's funny.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: I used him as a guinea pig in the clinics,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: so last week he was there he was a model
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: for our skin needling training session, so he came home
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: with a red face and get your hat on? Have
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: you got your sun's screen on? So I think he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: turning fifty this year and he's obviously starting to see
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: you know, more lines and things on his face and
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: a little bit of pigmentation and he's really becoming aware
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: of Okay, so when am I going next in for
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: a facial?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: What else do I need to do?
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: So? Yeah, I've really changed his body wash and loof today.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've increased to a three step skincare routine and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: once every eight weeks.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've got one more question for you. Just
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: back on SPF. I find it hard to find a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: good SPF, and as much as I love DMK, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: do find it quite thick and on my skin it
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel very nice. Is DMK your favorite for sunscreen
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: or do you have another brand that you'd recommend that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: feels a little bit lighter on the skin. So DMK
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the fifty plus.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: It's my favorite for beach days or when my kids
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: play sports because it is water resistant so if you
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: won't get in your eyes, and it's a fifty plus
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: that's why it's so thick. That's why it's so thick,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I think. But for everyday use. For me, I love
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: aspect the Aspect range, and because I suffer with malasma two.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: For me, I needed to use the tinted SBF because
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: you need the iron oxide in it. So they've got
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: a whole sun range. Jump onto my shop, your seat
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: all there. But they have a great Csea cream which
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: is like a light tint. It's enough for me to
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: wear on a weekend and give me enough coverage. But
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: that's also a fifty plus and it's so light, so
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: that range would be definitely one aspect. I think it's
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: the Aspect Sun range.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It's called beful to know because I do have the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: DMK fifty plus at home and I don't use it,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna start using all my kids because we
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: go to the beach so much too. So to know
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that it's water resistant as well, that's super helpful. That's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: forty days and stuff. So yeah, that's that's really good.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: For anyone who's listening and wants to have a look
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: and shop through these products, Like where would they be able.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: To find you?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Okas some shopping, Yeah, I'm like, let me write this down,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: So it's www dot skinclinic, dot com dot AU. A
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: lot of the skincare lines so are password protected because
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: you do need a bit of a prescription for coction,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: so it's best if you are interested and the range
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: does have a password protection, just send me an email
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: or there is like a bubble on my website that
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: you're just fill in your details. I'm more than happy
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: to jump onto a call with you, or we could
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: just correspond via email and then I can give you
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: the code and once you have the code, you can
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: shop forever more.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: We will be in contact absolutely.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: And do you have like Instagram? Do you post educational
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: content on there? Is there any other ways that we
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: can start learning from you and connection on Instagram?
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: It's at the skin Clinic in Concorde, Instagram and Facebook.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: I'm slowly getting on the TikTok bandwagon so that I
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: think I'm too old school, but eventually I do post
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: a lot of educational things. But yeah, like I said,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I'm always open for anyone that needs any advice or
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: any skincare tips.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: There's no strings attached, just I'm here to help.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: So it's a fifteen minute call, give me your details
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: and I will be more than happy to answer any
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: skin concerns or questions that you may have.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Amazing, so good, thank you so much.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We'll leave all of your details too in the show
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: notes below, just so anyone that is interested you can
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: find that below and you can reach out. You've got
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: nothing to lose around a fifteen minute call to find
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: out exactly like what products you need, a journey that
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you can go on, and this is in Sydney, just
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: for anyone that's wondering in Sydney.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Yeah, Honestly, if anyone listening who wants to book,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: you have nothing to lose. And also if you're feeling
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: really overwhelmed with all the outside noise or you're running
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: into the stores and you just buying products just winging it,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: don't be winging it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Save you so much time.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: And money and also like reassurance as well as your
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: skin journey.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So amazing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us from no I
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: really appreciate all the tips and advice. Oh I just
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: feel like I've walked away with so much more knowledge.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Around so much. Thank you so much. It has been amazing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: You're most welcome. Thank you so much, ladies,