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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at call
- 0:04support. I repeat today on the podcast,
- 0:07we're going to be looking at call support.
- 0:09Now, call support is just one of these things that a manager or a
- 0:14business owner can do to support the sales team, help the sales
- 0:19team to sell more. And I must admit, excuse me,
- 0:26even though the podcast has been going on for a while, usually I
- 0:29focus on how to make the person who has the sales responsibility
- 0:35sell better. So for those of you who are
- 0:38entrepreneurs, self-employed, I've been focused on how to get
- 0:42you to sell better. For those of you who are
- 0:45salespeople on behalf of someone else, Aspire, you work for Orga,
- 0:49you work for Madam, and Madam has given you charge of selling
- 0:54one or two things. My focus has always been on how
- 0:57to help you sell better, but I have forgotten and I've often
- 1:03lost sight of the fact that there are things that Olga and
- 1:09Madame can do to help you sell better as well.
- 1:13And so one of these things that we're talking about today is
- 1:18call support. I'll explain what that is in a
- 1:21moment. So hello and welcome, especially
- 1:25those of you discovering the podcast for this for the first
- 1:28time. My name is Tavishima IED, I'm
- 1:30the host of the podcast. I'm making today's recording at
- 1:33home. So there's going to be noise in
- 1:34the background. Now, if you like things business
- 1:38related, solving business problems, how do we get profit?
- 1:41What's wrong with our marketing? This negotiation is not working
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- 1:55And if you'd love to connect with me, you can call, send a
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- 2:05So like I said today, call support.
- 2:09That's what we're going to be looking at.
- 2:11What is call support? What are the kinds of call
- 2:13support that is sales manager can offer, can offer to the
- 2:17sales team or that an Olga can, you know, use to help the sales
- 2:21team? And then why is call support
- 2:23important in moving the business forward?
- 2:28OK, so call support now and I explain it by the way, on the
- 2:32podcast, every time I give a definition, I am not trying to
- 2:36give you the textbook definition, the academically
- 2:40correct definition of what a practice is.
- 2:43I'm just trying to use a very simple everyday working man,
- 2:46working woman definition so that you remember because it's my
- 2:51core thesis that easy to remember means easy to do, easy
- 2:55to apply. So for those of you who are
- 2:59nerds when it comes to these sorts of things, please don't
- 3:02send messages and correct me. I understand.
- 3:05I know my definitions are limiting.
- 3:07I'm just trying to give a definition that somebody will
- 3:09remember and that somebody will do.
- 3:13So call support just means there's somebody responsible for
- 3:16making these calls. You are the auger.
- 3:21What can you do to support this guy or to support this girl?
- 3:27To lift them up small, to help them small so that they can be
- 3:32more effective at their job. Now call support doesn't mean
- 3:37you're abdicating responsibility as per these guys responsible
- 3:44for selling. If me as org, I'm not doing call
- 3:46support. If me as Madam, I'm not doing
- 3:48call support doesn't mean I'm doing this person's job.
- 3:52Sometimes it might feel that way.
- 3:54And to be honest, call support is one of those aspects of
- 3:59improving sales performance. That you as the organ, you as
- 4:04the business owner, you as the Madam is one of these parts that
- 4:07you will find frustrating. But unfortunately, depending on
- 4:12your organization, it might be a necessary step for you to take
- 4:15to improving your finances. Now, I have spoken to a few, not
- 4:22too many, you know, like 2, let's say 2, two or three people
- 4:30who think they are not caught out for this because they don't
- 4:32have the right disposition or something.
- 4:35But don't worry, this is something that anybody can do in
- 4:39your own unique way. Even if all you do is you say
- 4:43why, you will come and sit down, watch me make a call.
- 4:46You make one or two calls even that is helpful and it's
- 4:50instrumental if you don't think you are good enough to to coach,
- 4:56but just know that nobody is born a coach.
- 5:01Just like we learn how to walk, we learn how to poop, we learn
- 5:03how to eat, we learn how to drive, we learn how to, you
- 5:07know, whatever. It's the same way that we learn
- 5:09these sorts of things as well. So for those of you who are
- 5:14responsible for mining the ship in your business, you're the
- 5:17orga, you're the Madam, you're the supervisor, you are the orga
- 5:21at the top, you are the whatever.
- 5:23It's one of these things that we, it would be nice if we learn
- 5:28is going to yield some benefits. So call support now.
- 5:35It's, it's three ways. Number one, you provide
- 5:40strategic guidance because sometimes some of these young
- 5:44bloods, sorry, hold on. OK, forgive me, I thought the
- 5:48call was coming in. You know, I make these
- 5:50recordings using my phone. I mean for those of you who are
- 5:52just joining today, I make these recordings using my phone.
- 5:55So once in a while these interruptions come through, you
- 5:57know, a phone call, a text message, something like that.
- 6:01That's why I said now this thing is a three-way something.
- 6:03Number one is strategic. A lot of the young bloods that
- 6:06you have working for you now, you know it's their first time.
- 6:14Maybe they've held another job before, but they don't have the
- 6:18business argument. They haven't been working for
- 6:20too long. Your place is the 2nd or the 3rd
- 6:22place that they're working at. Sometimes this is the first time
- 6:25that they're selling. So they don't have a strategic
- 6:28importance. They don't have a strategic
- 6:31understanding, you know, of the importance of sales, how things
- 6:35work together and how to guide conversations.
- 6:39So that's a lot that needs to be taught.
- 6:42Now they're professionals like me that exist in this space and
- 6:44it's our job to help facilitate that.
- 6:47But to be realistic, if somebody has not learned this thing
- 6:56before, sometimes it might be a lot to get some people and it
- 7:03depending on their disposition. Because let's face it, there are
- 7:06some sales people who are useless.
- 7:07They don't want to learn, they just want to collect salary.
- 7:10Those kind of idiots. Well, I don't know.
- 7:12It's just to get them out of the organization, unfortunately, and
- 7:15move them to someplace else where they will be very, very
- 7:18happy because there's some people who are in sales
- 7:21departments and you know, honestly speaking, they will
- 7:23thrive in the marketing department where they're in
- 7:26charge of social media management.
- 7:28So yes, they like things related to revenue, but they want to be
- 7:32much more on the creative side and they don't want to pick up
- 7:34the phone anyway. Let me not get sidetracked, but
- 7:37all I'm just trying to say is I'm providing strategic support.
- 7:43You guide people through it, OK, You know what, young man, young
- 7:48woman, in this industry, for these kinds of customers, this
- 7:52is how the conversation usually flows from this stage to this
- 7:55stage to this stage. At this stage, we're looking out
- 7:58for this. At this stage, we're looking out
- 8:00for this. At this stage, we're looking out
- 8:01for that. That is strategic support.
- 8:06You just chill in the office, maybe whether you let them know
- 8:11or not, you know, you just raise your ears more.
- 8:13You hear the conversation after that you say, actually, could
- 8:16you come here? You know, we need to talk.
- 8:17And then you put him through a through put him through a few
- 8:20things, strategic support, then tactical tactics just means what
- 8:25are the 123 steps that you need to do to do this?
- 8:28And in fact, there's one of my clients right now that the Olga
- 8:31and me who are currently fighting with the still sales
- 8:34team. And this is the level where
- 8:37we're at the tactical things because these people don't want
- 8:39to do it. You finish the call, record the
- 8:42note in CRMCRM they don't want to do, schedule the next call,
- 8:47schedule the next kind of activities, send this kind of
- 8:50text message. Now that is the, that is support
- 8:54at the tactical level, you know, do this.
- 8:58Then there's emotional guidance. Sometimes emotional guidance
- 9:03might be nice and soft. You know, you can do this, you
- 9:05can do this. Sometimes emotional guidance
- 9:08might be harsh. Like I had to scold this
- 9:11particular set 3 weeks ago when they were telling me that look,
- 9:16we can't do this, not enough time, we can't do this.
- 9:18And then one of them decide to challenge me and say that you
- 9:20do, you do this. And then, you know, I lost my
- 9:24SHIT on the call and I had to turn a calm look, do you know
- 9:27what? I have to do this because I'm
- 9:32self-employed. I kill what I eat.
- 9:35If I don't do this, I lose track of calls.
- 9:37If I lose track of calls, nothing enters my pocket.
- 9:40If nothing enters my pocket in January, me and my wife will
- 9:43quarrel in February. I had to tell him and also I had
- 9:48to tell him. That's the reason why your guy
- 9:52also is on your necks about on these sorts of things because
- 9:56your guy is looking at the fact that he has sent you 50 leads.
- 9:59Each lead is costing about 115 to maybe 6K to procure.
- 10:05So with 50 leads sitting on your desk, you didn't process any of
- 10:08them for him. That is real live, real time
- 10:12money leaving his pocket. Your revenue does not enter in
- 10:15January, February, him and Madam, they will have a serious
- 10:19conversation and here are business partners that will have
- 10:21a serious conversation. By the way, those of you salary
- 10:25earners who think you're guys always in your case, try to
- 10:28think of things from that perspective.
- 10:30For you guys, the stakes are not the same.
- 10:32End of the month will come January 31st, you collect your
- 10:36250K350K400K, whatever it is that he's paying you, regardless
- 10:41of how well you perform. So there's sometimes that
- 10:51emotional support can be rough. When you talk to your sales
- 10:54team, you talk to your people and let them know that look,
- 10:57this is the 401. This was going on.
- 11:00So times I have to shake them up a little.
- 11:02But either way, call support strategy.
- 11:07This is the overall industry. This is how the whole thing
- 11:09works. These are how conversations
- 11:11work. This is how we move from stage A
- 11:12to stage B to stage C Tactical Chukudi be doing this, be doing
- 11:19this, be doing this. Enter notes like this, schedule
- 11:21reminders like this, Send emails like this.
- 11:26And then emotional. I know you're tired, but don't
- 11:31worry. Wake up.
- 11:31Wake up. Yeah, man, don't wake up.
- 11:34Wake up. You can't do it.
- 11:36Or Cynthia, I understand you're tired, but don't worry.
- 11:41You're capable. You've been able to rise through
- 11:45circumstances before your personal life.
- 11:47You'll be able to do it here on the job.
- 11:48Don't worry, Cynthia. You are capable.
- 11:50You can do it. And then sometimes it's rough.
- 11:55Like, cool. What the hell is wrong with you?
- 11:56Come on. When you wake up, sit up my
- 12:00friend, you don't know we have bills to pay.
- 12:01Do you want to be out on the streets or more hit that phone
- 12:06and they don't mind me. So in a nutshell, that is called
- 12:12support. Now call support can be done in
- 12:14different ways. Number one by offering live and
- 12:17real time support when people are on the phone.
- 12:20Now there's some managers who the barging on the call as in
- 12:24the grab the phone, like if somebody is like, you know, the
- 12:26guy, don't they fumble too much to collect the phone and I'll
- 12:29say, oh, hello, sorry to barge in.
- 12:32My name is ABC. I'm the manager at so, so, so
- 12:35and so. I heard that you were talking to
- 12:38my colleague and I can see that he's not been able to furnish
- 12:41you with all the information that you need.
- 12:43So that's why I'm taking over this call so that if there are
- 12:45any questions, any problems, I should be able to sort you out.
- 12:48I hope you don't have a problem with that person will say yes,
- 12:51then you now continue the conversation from there.
- 12:53That is barging in for me. I never budgeting because I kind
- 12:57of think I really ruin somebody's confidence because
- 13:01you pull that kind of move on a salesperson.
- 13:02There's some salespeople that do feel as if the ground you just
- 13:05open and swallow them. So the next time they have to
- 13:10make a call now inside their heart to be Bing Bing, Bing,
- 13:12Bing Bing Bing doby shaking. So me, I don't barging or maybe
- 13:17I don't know how to barge in. Well, but anyway, you must
- 13:19budget. Please use how I say use
- 13:24discernment, use wisdom when it comes to barging in, and only do
- 13:32it in critical moments if you find that you're barging in on
- 13:35your stuff every single day. So let's say today Chukwudi is
- 13:38making a phone call. You barging, you collect the
- 13:40phone. Tomorrow he's doing phone call,
- 13:43you barging, you collect the phone.
- 13:45If in one week you barging like 4 times.
- 13:47And honestly, you might be overdoing it.
- 13:51So critical moments when it's a difficult question, a difficult
- 13:55objection, or maybe the technical issues are complex.
- 14:00The technical issues are complex and two goodies on the phone or
- 14:04synthesize on the phone and they are clearly struggling and the
- 14:06technical things need to be resolved adequately.
- 14:10In fact, that one has happened to me back when I worked in the
- 14:13Department of Works and Pensions.
- 14:14So I'd only been there for a while and there was a problem
- 14:18with the client claim and the guy was getting agitated.
- 14:22I was trying to explain some complex issue.
- 14:25Did he now enter the racial racial matter because I was back
- 14:30in the UK? The guy asked her, where are you
- 14:34from? So I thought he meant like the
- 14:39business development center. So I said, well, I'm Aberdeen
- 14:42Job Center. I said, no, you know what I
- 14:44mean, where are you from? And I understood.
- 14:47I said, oh, so I looked at my manager and just did my, you
- 14:51know, you know how you do eyebrow like you signal
- 14:53somebody. And then I asked the guy, would
- 14:56you prefer to talk to someone more local?
- 14:59The man said, thank you very much for understanding.
- 15:01So I now give the phone to my manager and the manager carried
- 15:05over from there, was able to explain the technical something.
- 15:09And then after that the manager came and apologized.
- 15:12Oh, I'm terribly sorry you had to go through that.
- 15:14And I said, no, it's OK, it's perfectly fine.
- 15:17Not like what's fine? But you know, anyway, it's just
- 15:23one of those things, you know, when you're doing a job as a
- 15:28foreigner, when you're doing a job in the UK or in America, you
- 15:31have to mind the phones. You know, it's one of those
- 15:32things, Isaac, that is expected. You know, people don't like the
- 15:35fact that certain jobs are being outsourced overseas.
- 15:38And so somebody picks up the phone, they hear a different
- 15:40accent. They just assume that, oh, OK,
- 15:42this thing is being outsourced any by Nigeria.
- 15:45We don't face those problems. Where was I?
- 15:47So the point of just trying to make is that in difficult
- 15:52moments, complex technical issues, difficult objections,
- 15:57then yes, as a manager, you know, grab the phone, rescue
- 16:00Chikudi, rescue Cynthia, rescue this matter.
- 16:05Then there's some other managers who whisper.
- 16:09And yeah, me too. I don't believe in whispering,
- 16:12but it's an option. In fact, there's once that I've
- 16:16done something similar to a whisper.
- 16:18I'm a salesperson was on a call and he forgot to ask one very
- 16:23important question. So I just sent a WhatsApp
- 16:26message to the phone because I advise that if you're minding
- 16:31the phones, if you make phone calls, you need a headset
- 16:36because to hold the phone and you know, make 10 phone calls
- 16:40every day. Your shoulder will hurt, your
- 16:41biceps will hurt. So I knew that on the call as I
- 16:44send a message, you know, the table flash notification will
- 16:46flash on top of the screen and then, you know, he asked the
- 16:48question. So that's also a form of
- 16:50whispering. That's the way that you're
- 16:51helping your salesperson keep track of the conversation.
- 16:56Then there's also listening and observing, silent monitoring.
- 16:59That's the one I prefer to do. I just keep quiet.
- 17:02Just the listen, just the listen.
- 17:03Make one or two notes. Now I've heard the call.
- 17:05I said what you could do, Can you step into my office for for
- 17:08a minute? You know, we need to talk about
- 17:10a few things because I don't believe I don't believe in
- 17:13washing people down in public because probably washing
- 17:16somebody down in public is that you destroy their morale and
- 17:20sales. Sales is difficult.
- 17:22We're trying to increase performance, bringing down
- 17:24somebody's morale. It's not really it's not really
- 17:26helping the matter. So I like to acknowledge in
- 17:31public if somebody has done a good job, say correct, we're
- 17:33done, that was a good one, we're done, we're done.
- 17:37Whatever is need to scold, you know, I'm going to wash you down
- 17:40in, in private, not in not in public.
- 17:44So, so you could come to you please.
- 17:46Or if it's an online something, it's OK after this call, you
- 17:49could it is something you are nice to talk about.
- 17:51Then after that, now talk to you could and then tell him, OK,
- 17:54this and this and this is what we could have done better.
- 17:57So that's listening and observing.
- 18:00Then another important part of it is a pre call strategy and
- 18:03planning. Pre call strategy.
- 18:07I'm planning just means, look, before we hit the phones today,
- 18:11we need to understand a few things.
- 18:12What are we trying to call? What's the strategy?
- 18:14What are we trying to say? What are we trying to achieve?
- 18:17And let's plan how this call will go.
- 18:19So in yesterday's coaching session that I had with another
- 18:22customer, the one that I spoke about, another client who is in
- 18:27the content production space, this is precisely what we did.
- 18:31We're going to go and call this person.
- 18:33You think that there's room for business here.
- 18:36So what are we, what's the agenda for this call?
- 18:40What are we trying to planning to do for this call?
- 18:43I heard the guy out and I told him, look, you know what,
- 18:45instead of trying to sell on the phone, the agenda for this call
- 18:48should be #1 see if they're interested then #2 book a
- 18:52meeting. After all, the office is not
- 18:54far. So tomorrow on the way into from
- 18:57to what you will branch their side first.
- 19:00How do you see the guy say, you know what, that makes sense.
- 19:02I said cool. So therefore, in his own case,
- 19:07the agenda for this meeting, the goal of this meeting is not
- 19:10close to sale. I'm sorry.
- 19:12The agenda for this phone call is not close to sale.
- 19:14The agenda is booking meeting. Are you guys interested?
- 19:18Are you free? You will live around my side
- 19:20self tomorrow morning around 9:00 I can pass through.
- 19:25Sure. Jude is the one that is
- 19:26responsible. Would you be around?
- 19:28OK, no problem. That's it.
- 19:32So this is pre call strategy and planning also very important.
- 19:36So you're a manager, you're responsible for sales team.
- 19:39You should be doing this with your team.
- 19:41You are the Olga, you are the Madam, you are the Olga at the
- 19:45top, you are the whatever you should be doing this as well.
- 19:49Now, role-playing is an important part of this.
- 19:51So almost, I mean, this year I've done more role-playing than
- 19:58I normally like to do, but for a team that's.
- 20:03It hasn't quite grasped the fundamentals.
- 20:06It's not a bad way to get people thinking fast, thinking on their
- 20:08feet and helping them to anticipate different kinds of
- 20:12objections. When the customer sees this,
- 20:14what do you see? If the customer does this, what
- 20:16do you do? Help them to build conversation.
- 20:23But this thing that I mentioned about pre call briefing is
- 20:26really, really important as a sales manager or Zanoga.
- 20:30OK, we're calling so, so and so today.
- 20:33What's the This person hasn't returned.
- 20:37This person hasn't gotten back to us since we sent the
- 20:39proposal. OK, so what's the agenda for the
- 20:41call? We need to have these
- 20:43conversations because if you send someone a proposal, the
- 20:47person has ghosted you. You can't just call without an
- 20:50agenda. If the person picks, what will
- 20:51you now see? So now let me leave the organ at
- 20:55the top and the sales manager. Now let me talk to those of you
- 20:58who hold the phones and who are responsible for selling.
- 21:01Think through some of these things now because the best one
- 21:04was you. Now you now begin the fumble.
- 21:06Oh, it's true Cody. I'm sorry.
- 21:10You remember last week I sent you a proposal.
- 21:15You know all that? MMM, you know it's not.
- 21:19You know it's not helping you. So before the call, do small pre
- 21:25call briefing. Even if your guy doesn't do pre
- 21:29call briefing for you, you do pre call briefing for yourself.
- 21:36I tell people this all the time, but it's like people don't
- 21:38believe me. If you can look at my desk, it's
- 21:41a little scattered. Yeah, my father just called me
- 21:43about that. I say that young man, you should
- 21:46always clean your desk. And in my mind I'm looking at
- 21:48him and saying you're telling me I should clean my desk.
- 21:50Have you seen your own desk? Well, anyway, my wife would say
- 21:55that's hypocrisy. No, I don't think it's
- 21:56hypocrisy. I think it's just that, you
- 21:58know, our parents, you know, they struggle one or two vices
- 22:00and they don't want you to fall into that same vice.
- 22:02So my father's desk was always untidy.
- 22:04So I think he was just trying to correct me so that I won't grow
- 22:06up and then my own desk will be untidy.
- 22:10So I always have my daughters before I call, I map it out.
- 22:16Nobody's here to do pre call briefing for me.
- 22:18So me, I will brief myself. I want to call Mr. Jacob.
- 22:24What do I want to achieve on this call?
- 22:27How do I think this call should go?
- 22:30I'll just map it out. Small, small lines, you know,
- 22:33dot dot dot you know, slash slash slash, you know, 3-4
- 22:38lines, Then I'm confident I can make the call.
- 22:42If we lose track, I can bring it back on focus.
- 22:45So the pre call briefing before a major call, very, very
- 22:48important. Discuss who this prospect is,
- 22:51the person you're calling, discuss the background, discuss
- 22:53where you are, discuss the objective that you want to
- 22:56achieve on this call. Come and put out one or two
- 22:59talking points and maybe potential challenges.
- 23:05So like in this case, you send a, what's it called, a proposal,
- 23:11a quote, person hasn't, person hasn't gotten back to you.
- 23:16One of the talking items that I've recommended within the last
- 23:20one month has been how does it go again?
- 23:24So how do we compare to all the proposals that you have received
- 23:28so far? So instead of Hello Mr.
- 23:33Chukwudi. Yes, this is Davish man from
- 23:37Solar Power Company. You remember I issued you a
- 23:41proposal two weeks ago. So instead of not asking him,
- 23:46have you read it? You just say so for all the
- 23:48proposals you've received so far, you know, how do we
- 23:50compare? How do we rank you can only ask
- 23:56these kinds of things confidently.
- 23:58If you thought about it ahead of time and if you just scribbled
- 24:01something on the sheet of paper, you know, scribble two or three
- 24:04things guide the conversation. The person on the other end of
- 24:08the line, you know, will feel you like, oh, these guys, these
- 24:11guys are professional. You know, somebody will say
- 24:15confidence because somebody this year has told me that about
- 24:18about confidence. Now I wish I had your
- 24:19confidence. His confidence.
- 24:21Nothing is just pre call briefing.
- 24:25I'm just planning one or two things.
- 24:27That is how to make you appear to people like, oh, this guy is
- 24:30a confident professional. So if your line manager, your
- 24:34guy is not doing it for you, do it for yourself.
- 24:40If you're listening to this podcast and you have been making
- 24:42phone calls before now without scripting something, stop it.
- 24:47Get a small sheet of paper or get a small jotter or for those
- 24:52of us who are parents, the books that your son used for or your
- 24:57daughter used for primary school last last time the one that he
- 25:02didn't finish carried tear out the pages in front all the other
- 25:06pages in back that he didn't use.
- 25:07Does it? That's your journal.
- 25:10Begin a do pre call briefing and script out one or two things.
- 25:14Guide your conversations. Help yourself to be much more
- 25:17effective. These are some of the small,
- 25:19small things that are standing in between you and your
- 25:23commissions, in between you and your Nara and gobo.
- 25:30So let's see what else post call analysis after a call, it will
- 25:37help as an auger, as a manager, as a Madam, if you can debrief
- 25:41immediately after a call. So OK, that was all right.
- 25:45I like the way you did this. I like the way you did that.
- 25:48We could have improved this, we could have asked this kind of
- 25:51question and you know, next step, let us do this to to
- 25:56improve. Now there are some companies
- 26:00where they record calls so they can do review, for instance, Tel
- 26:06telcos in Niger. So if you call MTN, if you call
- 26:08Glow, if you call Airtel, you know, they are recording the
- 26:11phone conversations so that the line manager can say afterwards
- 26:14that, oh, Nancy, you know, good, you did this, good, you did
- 26:17that. But next time say this, next
- 26:19time say that. Hey, on this call recording
- 26:22thing, somebody challenged me on it.
- 26:24So I had to confirm from one of my colleagues who is still a
- 26:28lawyer and the position of the law has not changed.
- 26:30So I've said it before, somebody challenged me on it, but I've
- 26:33confirmed the position of the law has not changed.
- 26:36You are not allowed to record phone calls without anybody
- 26:38else's consent. So if you must do that, just let
- 26:41the person know just like the telco companies do because I'm
- 26:47Mr. Chugudy. Oh yes, I'm calling from so, so,
- 26:50so, so OK, no problem. Oh, sorry Mr. Chugudy, just for
- 26:53training purposes, this phone call is going to be recorded.
- 26:56It's not a problem. You know, I asked Mr. Chugudy,
- 27:00let him say, OK, no problem, let's continue or know why
- 27:02you'll be recording my call. So OK, no problem Since your
- 27:04objects are we're not going to record the call.
- 27:07The reason why I'm calling is and then you go in straight and
- 27:09do your how do your business, but ask then as the oga, as the
- 27:17manager, provide actionable feedback and specific feedback
- 27:21to a person. Now one mistake that orgasmic in
- 27:24this part of the world, Orga and Madam that they make in this
- 27:26part of the world is too many things bottle up, they become
- 27:29angry and so they just explode. Monday morning, first thing team
- 27:35meeting. It's just bad.
- 27:36They just begin to vomit everything on their chest.
- 27:39Nothing doesn't help because Chukudi is there, Nazi is there.
- 27:44You know, Khilichi is there in a choice there, but you've vomited
- 27:49all kinds of things and you know Shah, they know you're upset,
- 27:53but they haven't had specifics about what needs to be improved.
- 27:58So when you're vomiting vomit in a very specific way in a
- 28:01natural, this is what you need to work on at ABC.
- 28:05This is what you need to work on adequately next time.
- 28:09You could have done this one better.
- 28:12Specific, specific things that they can work on.
- 28:15Don't just vomit everything that has been on your chest been
- 28:18going on for the last two weeks. In fact, it's a good idea to do
- 28:22these interventions when they happen.
- 28:25So if you're walking by and you hear a natural fumble a call
- 28:28badly, you say natural, can I see my office please in about 5
- 28:32minutes. And then you have that
- 28:33conversation with him. You tell him, oh boy, you fumble
- 28:37that call, die. You should have done this.
- 28:40You should have done this, you should have done that.
- 28:44So specific, personalized feedback.
- 28:51Then let's say, OK, I've already spoken about, you know,
- 28:55motivational support or emotional support.
- 28:57In fact, motivation, That's one I don't do well if I consider
- 29:01myself a demotivator because I'm trying to let people know that
- 29:04look man, this is hard work. So these are the things that we
- 29:06need to do so that we can scale, move to the next, to the next
- 29:11level, what we should try and encourage our staff, encourage
- 29:14our people, try and use positive reinforcement.
- 29:21In fact, that's one thing that one of my clients does very
- 29:24well. Every time somebody closes the
- 29:26sale, they celebrate it in the water group, they shout out the
- 29:29guy. So it's a good thing.
- 29:33Oh, also give your salespeople, your sales team, give them tips
- 29:41on how to handle rejection. Because new people coming into
- 29:45the business, they take it very personal.
- 29:49Very, very personal. If somebody shouts at them, they
- 29:51take it personal. If somebody doesn't return phone
- 29:54call, they take it personal. If somebody caught the phone on
- 29:58them, they take it personal. Somebody ignores them, they take
- 30:01it personal. So we should be having these
- 30:03conversations about the proper way to deal with with rejection.
- 30:06And just in case you are wondering the different ways of
- 30:12handling rejection, but my own way begins with realizing that
- 30:18when people reject you, so long as we're talking about business.
- 30:21Now, if you're toasting a babe and the babe rejects you, trust
- 30:24me, it's personal. It is personal if you don't like
- 30:27you, but for business purposes, if somebody rejects you, it is
- 30:30not you that is being rejected, it is the business proposition
- 30:34or the value proposition that is being rejected.
- 30:37The person has called the phone because they think the proposal
- 30:39is rubbish, not because they think you're rubbish.
- 30:42The person hasn't gotten back to you because he thinks the price
- 30:45is ridiculous, not because he thinks you are ridiculous.
- 30:51The person doesn't want to go ahead with you because he
- 30:54doesn't think the company can do the job.
- 30:59He lacks faith in the company. It's not that he lacks faith in
- 31:02you. So the beginning of dealing with
- 31:04rejection for those of you who have to man the phones is to
- 31:07understand that look, it ain't none personal, just business.
- 31:13After a while, you know you won't you won't take it
- 31:15personal. Well, his relationship and
- 31:18they're rejecting you. Yeah, it's personal.
- 31:20There's stuff you need to work on.
- 31:23All right, anybody That's the topic for another podcast
- 31:25episode. So call support now, it's the
- 31:31driver of business growth. It can be annoying, it can be
- 31:35frustrating, but it helps to drive growth.
- 31:37It can help to improve sales and performance because this kind of
- 31:41coaching on live calls, it helps people to improve real time how
- 31:47they can adapt communication or how they can solve problems.
- 31:54But this is not something you do just one time.
- 31:55It's something you do continually over time.
- 31:57Then you start to see the results.
- 32:02Oh, it's about to rain. OK, let me rock up quickly
- 32:06because with the rain, the audio is going to get really, really
- 32:10bad. So I think that's the reason why
- 32:13this call support is really, really important.
- 32:15And then after a while, it will make sure that things are
- 32:18consistent with the team because you notice that with your teams,
- 32:22you know, is always up and down. You know, maybe Chem is a
- 32:25superstar. Kelis, she's like middle of the
- 32:28park. And then Abdul Kadir is the one
- 32:30that is struggling. And then, you know, so up, down,
- 32:33up, down, up, down. But after a while, you know, you
- 32:35can't raise. By the way, your sales team will
- 32:38never be equal. There's no how that you have a
- 32:40sales team and everybody's is a superstar.
- 32:43It's not it's not possible. Statistically speaking, that's
- 32:46not possible. But at least when you do these
- 32:48kinds of things, these kinds of call support, you are raising
- 32:52the quality, raising consistency across the sales team.
- 32:57Now, the most important reason why I think as the organ and the
- 33:01Madam you should be doing call support as the boss is because
- 33:05sometimes as the boss, you are removed from some things on the
- 33:08ground. There are some things on the
- 33:10ground level you don't know is normal.
- 33:12You're in the office, you're chopping AC, your sales team is
- 33:15out in the field or they're the ones speaking the phone.
- 33:17That's some things you don't know.
- 33:19When you are doing call support, you will be hearing some things.
- 33:22The things that customers are saying that you've not been
- 33:25hearing, you will hear. And that is how you now know
- 33:27whether you need to adjust your prices or you need to change
- 33:30strategy or you need to change this.
- 33:32You need to improve that. So that is the most important
- 33:35reason why as the Olga, as the Madam, as the business owner,
- 33:39even though you're no longer using the phone, you should be
- 33:42doing call support because you'll be hearing direct
- 33:46customer feedback. You'll be there.
- 33:48And based on what your sales person is saying, you'll be,
- 33:50you'll get a sense of, oh, OK, the customer is taking it like
- 33:54this, taking it like that. And then you'll be able to
- 33:59identify gaps. OK, What does my salespeople
- 34:03need to do to improve? What is it?
- 34:04Is it this, is it that you know, things like that?
- 34:07Or is there a problem with the product or with the service?
- 34:10Where are the gaps? You'll be able to get all the
- 34:12information that you need. So it's been 30 minutes.
- 34:16Let me bring this episode to a close and I hope I've been able
- 34:21to convince those of you who are organs or madams in the business
- 34:24that call support is important. This is the reason why you
- 34:27should be doing call support. And even though it can be
- 34:31annoying, even though sometimes you feel as if I want to break
- 34:34this person's head, you know, just still do it.
- 34:37Oh please, those of you who are not Nigerians listening to the
- 34:40podcast because I received a message my LinkedIn today, an
- 34:44American guy and the guy's like, oh, how you doing?
- 34:46And then you started vibing. I was like, oh, OK, that's true.
- 34:49Foreigners still listen to the podcast.
- 34:51Please, when I say, you know, I will slap you or I'll break your
- 34:55head is a man who was speaking in Nigeria.
- 34:57It doesn't mean as if, like, the person will actually tear you
- 35:01slap. You know, we're not savages in
- 35:03this part of the world. No manager actually tears
- 35:06somebody's lap. So just a man who was speaking,
- 35:09you know, when the manager says if I slap you, it's not as if in
- 35:13Nigeria we go around slapping people up and down.
- 35:16So just realise that there are certain manners of speech that's
- 35:21an colloquial expressions in different parts of the world.
- 35:25So for those of you Americans listening to the podcast, nice
- 35:28hearing from you guys, by the way.
- 35:32Just don't try to speak pigeon or just don't try to type
- 35:35pigeon. You know, when you tried it, it
- 35:39sounds wrong. It sounds I can't explain.
- 35:44I can't explain. We'll be like me trying to forge
- 35:46a Northern Texan accent or something like that.
- 35:50So, you know, just don't do that.
- 35:51So reach out and let's chat. But it's OK, You be you.
- 35:54I know you're trying to build rapport and, you know, speak
- 35:57pigeon and all that, but you know, it's a little bit much.
- 35:59Just dial it back, you know, you be you.
- 36:02Let me be me and we'll not be good.
- 36:04All right, now let me bring this to a close.
- 36:06So that's it and that's all. Thank you very much for
- 36:10listening. Remember, if you'd love to
- 36:11connect, you can call, send a text message or a WhatsApp
- 36:13message on 08064662140. Thanks for your time and
- 36:19attention. I'll catch you next time.
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