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Theme Parks, Featherless Chickens, and Compromise · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that John wants his friends to
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  Speaker 2: be honest even if it hurts, and gets hungry hearing
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  Speaker 2: about a tornado in England. Meanwhile, I learn exactly how
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  Speaker 2: many roller coasters it takes to make me nauseous and
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  Speaker 2: make a joke at a general Baptist convention. Well, it's
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  Speaker 2: a conversation about whether compromise is always a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: Today's episode is not sponsored by message in a bottle.
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  Speaker 2: It's the least reliable way to mail something and also littering.
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  Speaker 2: But first, a word from our actual sponsor.
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  Speaker 1: What's up out there? I'm John, This is Johnny us.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that your favorite podcast? We hope that, if
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  Speaker 1: not a maybe top five? Were talking?
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  Speaker 2: We wait, we chart.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how many podcasts most people who listen to
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  Speaker 1: us listen to?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you really say, like they're my favorite? And
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  Speaker 2: what else do you listen to?
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  Speaker 3: Do?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: I don't, Yeah, the only.
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  Speaker 1: Like my wife listens to a lot of podcasts, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and we're still her favorite. She says, she would tell
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  Speaker 1: me like she's not no, she would tell me honest
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  Speaker 1: things all the time. I don't want to say any
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  Speaker 1: more than that I trust her. I trust her. I need.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: When you're an Inneagram six, you don't want people telling
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  Speaker 1: you things that aren't true. Yeah, like you want people
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  Speaker 1: if it hurts, you'd rather it hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess maybe I'm not a six then, because
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  Speaker 2: I do feel like I because there was a video
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  Speaker 2: I saw about that about like you if if people
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  Speaker 2: are super careful with criticism around you, you have trained
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  Speaker 2: them to be that way because you've shown that you
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  Speaker 2: can't take real criticism. Yeah, and so you're training people
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  Speaker 2: how to behave around you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know it's today. I was talking through something
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  Speaker 1: with my best friend and I said, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: want my friends to lose her respect for me, and
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  Speaker 1: you just stayed silent. I was like, Okay, well that's
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  Speaker 1: where we are, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, and go, let's start the
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  Speaker 2: show and let's talk about it. No, John, I could
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  Speaker 2: never lose respect for you.
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  Speaker 1: That is not true.
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  Speaker 2: You tell me, what would I tell you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm losing respect for you because of your decisions or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Good Lord, this is all I think you should do better.
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  Speaker 1: I tell my wife that dads like. My fear is
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  Speaker 1: that my friends do think my friends think probably that
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  Speaker 1: I'm so much harder on myself than they could ever be,
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  Speaker 1: that I'm afraid they won't be hard on me when
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  Speaker 1: they need to be.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty hard on you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're pretty honest.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit I got on you today because
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  Speaker 2: you relate for lunch.
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  Speaker 1: I already ate it. Listen, not lunch. I ate the mistake.
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  Speaker 1: I literally I was at a volleyball private.
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  Speaker 2: You set these times, you go, hey, Johnny noon, I go, sure, go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can make it there by noon. I go, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this was two nights ago. Like, all right, so today
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  Speaker 2: I text you before I leave my house. Are we
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  Speaker 2: still on for noon? No response, Hey, I'm not leaving
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  Speaker 2: my Finally I go, I'm not leaving my house until
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  Speaker 2: I know that you're going to be there at noon
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  Speaker 2: and tell me where we're going. Then finally you go, uh,
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen work, let's go. And so I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I leave my house and then I'm halfway there,
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  Speaker 2: twenty minute drive. I'm ten minutes into the drive, and
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  Speaker 2: you go, dude, I'm an idiot. I thought it was eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I thought I was I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a different time.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you think that you're in a did
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  Speaker 2: you switch time zones? How could you think that.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to a coach and a private lesson
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  Speaker 1: for my daughter about a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds very privileged. I was shooting, so that's just private
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  Speaker 2: lesson for my daughter. Next thing, I know, my gee
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  Speaker 2: ten dollars Swiss watch has given me a wrong time.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm like, I'm shooting videos and out trying to
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking recruiting. I'm paying for stuff with
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  Speaker 1: my phone because to pay for the lesson again privilege.
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  Speaker 2: I just see you thought, Johnny, I'll understand what I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm saying, is I get.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think you'd understand. I thought Johnny's gonna never
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  Speaker 1: let me leave this down because I tell my daughter,
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  Speaker 1: I said to Sadie, I'm one time everywhere unless Uncle
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  Speaker 1: Johnny's involved. And something seems to go wrong every time,
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  Speaker 1: and that's on me. I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I think because you save the worst parts for your
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  Speaker 1: best friends.
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  Speaker 2: That something I'm saying, could you not could you please
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  Speaker 2: mask for me? Could you hide that part of yourself?
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean to, it's want to want the good John,
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  Speaker 1: today was one hundred and it was.
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  Speaker 2: Only only fifteen minutes later or so, I mean from
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  Speaker 2: the original time. You were thirty minutes later.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you'd already agreed to the new time I had.
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  Speaker 1: Are you still like emotionally holding to the old time.
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  Speaker 2: As if you were just saying you set the time.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was fifteen minutes late. I think what
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  Speaker 1: we should do is every minute late is a dollar.
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  Speaker 1: I paid towards your meal. Okay, today you'd have got
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  Speaker 1: fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 2: I got the cheapy too. They let me get the
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  Speaker 2: kids meal. It at Cheddars, Yeah, which it says twelve.
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  Speaker 2: It says twelve, and it's a quarter pounds burger, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with fries for like six and a half bucks. I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to eat. It's the best value at Cheddars.
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  Speaker 2: Not a sponsor.
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  Speaker 1: No, I went and ordered the loaded broccoli. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, of course. The guy said, nobody knows what
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  Speaker 1: loaded BROCOLI no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, no, you explain, you explained it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't call it loaded broccoli.
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  Speaker 2: Now you said loaded up, like.
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  Speaker 1: Like a baked potato. He's like, oh, yeah, of course,
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  Speaker 1: of course. And I was like so that means broccoli
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  Speaker 1: with butter, sour cream, bacon, and cheese.
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  Speaker 2: He brought you plain broccoli and a loaded potato which
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  Speaker 2: you then took your broccoli and dipped in and then
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  Speaker 2: ate the potato too. Now trying to do trying to
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  Speaker 2: do low car.
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  Speaker 1: This is the straight devil right here. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I didn't order this. I ordered I intentionally.
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  Speaker 2: You think the waiter was the devil.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that. I think the devil used the waiter.
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  Speaker 1: He was just an innocent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's fine. You're just fine.
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  Speaker 2: But the volleyball went okay though, it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she did a really good, really good deal.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. She got the best parts of you, and
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  Speaker 2: that's good that you should give that to your daughter.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. If I had to choose when you and.
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  Speaker 2: Her, Uh huh, you've already you've made your joys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's not even that's fine, that's one
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  Speaker 1: of my.
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  Speaker 2: Uh maybe if I was better at volleyball, that would help. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have a terrible vertical in the shorts. Even before
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  Speaker 2: the scooter accident, I have a terrible vertical.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but you're tall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: He used to play basketball a lot too, on two
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  Speaker 1: and me and you'd be on a team and you
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  Speaker 1: don't how tall are you? Six four?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? That six four?
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  Speaker 1: You don't play like a six four guy. You play
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  Speaker 1: like you play a finesse fadeaway game unless you're playing
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  Speaker 1: one on one with me and then and then you
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  Speaker 1: just like you, which why can't just do that? We're
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  Speaker 1: playing two one too.
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  Speaker 2: It's boring, really, yeah, it's boring.
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  Speaker 1: We could have won so many championships.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, championship.
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  Speaker 1: We did win one championship, didn't we Yeah, I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: It was five and five.
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  Speaker 2: It was five on five. Yeah, that was not our
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  Speaker 2: finest hour of the Church League. It was carpet or something.
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  Speaker 2: Probably did one of us have.
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  Speaker 1: Significant free throws in the game at the end that
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  Speaker 1: we had to hit to win.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember, but that sounds about right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like the whole game comes down to this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and for once we didn't choke. I don't remember who.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a Disney movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, our wives are watching. Maybe was that our finest hour?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think our wives were watching.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was our best moment.
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  Speaker 2: I've had pretty good moments since then. I'll just be real.
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  Speaker 1: Joy pulls out his picture from the Grand Ole Operay, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I have that picture.
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  Speaker 2: You still you have to hang it up and it
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  Speaker 2: hurts my feelings a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I paid like fifty five bucks for that. Why, that's what.
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  Speaker 2: That's what those places that do these they take your
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  Speaker 2: digital photos and they put them in a frame, and
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  Speaker 2: it's the thing. That's what they cost to get one
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  Speaker 2: that big.
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  Speaker 1: But the frame where you get a frame with that
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  Speaker 1: from Dollar Tree and you can get the photo printed
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  Speaker 1: at Walgreens. No, you paid fifty five dollars for that.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think that it's less important to me?
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  Speaker 2: I even tried. I even tried to put it in
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  Speaker 2: AI and take the shine off your head a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: which a lot of the shine is gone. It's a
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  Speaker 2: small shine still because you're right under a light. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a little shine there.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't shine stuff on there too.
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  Speaker 2: That night, did you really off?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I put it there because it's directly in my eyeshot,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's where I that's It's like, if.
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  Speaker 2: You're really proud of it. I think you'd want it
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  Speaker 2: on camera, and h it's my feelings a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You want to put one picture on this whole wall.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I want you to put a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: pictures out. I'm going I'd be one of them.
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  Speaker 1: I own all the frames, a bunch of the frames.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how many photos I have in my
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  Speaker 2: house I haven't put up on my wall. Dozens? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know when it's going to happen. When I get
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  Speaker 2: some free time. That's where I am when I prioritize it.
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  Speaker 2: What time do you think it is? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: What is this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a few times last few weeks where
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wait is today Saturday?
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  Speaker 2: Like I totally it felt like one of those weeks
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  Speaker 2: for me too.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot going on, but I
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  Speaker 1: am in a book project. I mean, you're always in
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  Speaker 1: a book project though I like two, but that's your life.
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  Speaker 1: And I wrote for a grant in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: this general grant. I wrote for general grant this was
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  Speaker 1: we had to break some the is there.
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  Speaker 2: A general grant you can go for?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: This is a general It's like I did this one
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  Speaker 2: event for a church. You know these denominations come out
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  Speaker 2: of the blue. You get off of the other words
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  Speaker 2: the such and such, or we're open Bible. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want it was open Bible was the name of
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  Speaker 2: the dominant. I don't even know what that is. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I remember this.
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  Speaker 2: You were like, I don't know sure, and then I
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  Speaker 2: go do it and I go, I think we maybe open.
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  Speaker 2: I try to look at their beliefs. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I think we may be open Bible, and.
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  Speaker 1: They're way different than the closed Bible.
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  Speaker 2: I mean closed Bible. Don't want to hang around those.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what the money pays.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a shelf to these people. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a coaster. But uh, I did one. It was called
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  Speaker 2: General Baptist, the General Baptists Convention, and I was like, so,
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  Speaker 2: you guys don't believe anything specific, you just say. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: They did not like that at all.
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  Speaker 1: If you say the word general, yeah, in Dane Allen's
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  Speaker 1: Presence and Staff meeting.
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  Speaker 2: H huh, he'll salute you, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Or if you say any or major major, A major's
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  Speaker 1: the only ones that come up. Or I guess if
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  Speaker 1: you said private to private meeting. He'd be the colonel
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  Speaker 1: of an idea private meeting. Yeah, he does it ever,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he never misses it. It's pretty impressive. And
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  Speaker 1: if all the things we taught Dane.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Dane, our friend Dame was made in a
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  Speaker 2: fish member of Disciple, Yeah, which is good. He's been
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  Speaker 2: he's been playing with them and touring with them for
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  Speaker 2: ten years or so. Yeah, but he's officially their bass
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  Speaker 2: player now and background vocalist.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool hearing the whole he
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  Speaker 1: did his background story of music, which we were present.
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  Speaker 4: Out of that.
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  Speaker 2: We were a little piece of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, him talking about five Swing Stones, Oh yeah, which
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  Speaker 1: was the name of our first band.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh. He said that was the name of his
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  Speaker 2: first band.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they made have the name of their first band,
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  Speaker 1: just like it was ours. They were paying some serious
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  Speaker 1: homage to us back then.
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  Speaker 2: We're paying some dues, is what they were paying, and
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  Speaker 2: we all nobody was paying them to play.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, just like us. You'll notice that he, just
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  Speaker 1: like us, regretted the name immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Huh. But that all happened.
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  Speaker 1: How did the name we regret get passed down to
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  Speaker 1: someone else who could also regret it.
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  Speaker 2: We regret, we regret Reggy. Yeah was well. Anyway, congrats
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  Speaker 2: to Dane. I think I'm doing a festival with them
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  Speaker 2: in September. No uprise, uprise sounds more violent. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to, but yeah, we're we're doing that together.
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  Speaker 2: I think Reggie Dabs is gonna be with that one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's in September, so take It's available at JHNNYW
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  Speaker 2: dot com. It's in Shippensburg, Pennsylvania, shoving upstate PA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have shipped books to Shippensburg.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they're known for.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be a fun thing to go to. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Gang is going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: You know what else a fun thing to go to
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  Speaker 2: would be John.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: A fine word or two from a few of our
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  Speaker 2: sponsors who help us keep the lights off. Let talk
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 4: Let's hear from them.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: What a pro And we're back. So this weekend was
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: a big test for my foot, you know, because I'm
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: still working on old sprained foot from the old scooter mishap,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm a little gampy still but hobbling around. And
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I did five arena shows Nate Bergazzi and so it's
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: just like you can't get where. What's funny is the
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  Speaker 2: best way to get where I was going would have
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  Speaker 2: been one of his scooters, and I'm not gonna get
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  Speaker 2: on one until I totally I made my mind. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna get back on it. Counterphobic. You gotta gotta tackle
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  Speaker 2: get back on the horse. But I'm gonna wait till
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  Speaker 2: because you don't want to be that guy. That's like
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  Speaker 2: he got back on and he fell off again, and
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  Speaker 2: then now the nose is completely shattered.
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  Speaker 1: It would be hard to live it down. It wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: a second time. Yeah, the second time.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if you get a speeding ticket on vacation,
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  Speaker 2: you go slow the rest because you can't get two
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  Speaker 2: tickets in a row. You don't want to be that guy,
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  Speaker 2: so you just drop your legal man for the next
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  Speaker 2: month because you can't get two tickets in the same
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  Speaker 2: calendar month, because then you've got a problem. Anyway, they
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  Speaker 2: were so fun. But one of the things we did
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  Speaker 2: and I did sometimes I don't tell stuff about Nate's world,
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  Speaker 2: but he had an article come out about this while
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  Speaker 2: we were on tour, so I think it's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: fair game. But Nate is starting a theme park. He's yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he is. I've been talking about it for a long
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  Speaker 2: time papers and stuff, and now it's in Wall Street
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  Speaker 2: Journal did an article about this man wants to become
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  Speaker 2: the next Walt Disney. He may just pull it off.
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  Speaker 2: That was the title of the article. Wow. And so
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  Speaker 2: it was all about his his dream. And so the
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  Speaker 2: third day of the tour, we were in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: We were driving from Albany, and they go, Hey, just
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  Speaker 2: you know in the morning, we're going to get up
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  Speaker 2: at nine, because sometimes we just sleep in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit and get up whenever and go get coffee and whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and you just wander into the arena, go find your
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  Speaker 2: dressing room, and you have a really long day of
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: waiting to do my dumb eight minutes and Nate's show.
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  Speaker 2: But that day they were like, hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get up at nine. If this van is going to
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  Speaker 2: pick us up, well, we're right next door. The arena
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  Speaker 2: he was doing is right next to Hershey Park, which
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  Speaker 2: is a theme park. I had no idea it was
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: a thing. I'd heard about it, like, Oh, there's all
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Hershey Museum and that's where I make the chocolate. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they probably have a dumb like
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: roller coaster or two. No, it's like a huge, like
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Dollywood sized park. Wow, it's one hundred and twenty four
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: acre theme park with gigantic coasters and other cool rides.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: So Nate is like scouting and some of the guys
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: who were helping with his park evidently helped with that park,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: the ride designers and builders, and so they were like,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: come see these rides and see So he's really like shopping. Wow,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: which is so funny to think about. But so we
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: got up at now he goes everybody that rides, you know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we want your feedback, so we'll all get
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: in this van. So before people were let into the park,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: we're taking a van to one ride. Then the next
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: ride we did six. Well that's fine, and it's actually
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: pretty cool because you're just on these roads that the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: people are just normally just walking on. You're just But
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: here's what happens. If you're fifty one, like I am.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: The first one, You're like, well that was fun. I'm
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: a little disoriented, but whoa coast. I like roller coasters.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I like them a lot, not spinning roller coasters.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: The ones I don't like are the VR that messes
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: with my equilibrium. But I'm like, I like roller coasters
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: and so then but normally you walk around for ten
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: minutes to get to the next one, you wait in
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: line for thirty minutes. We got in a van and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: we were there, so now it's like number two, number two.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, about it go different, it's different. The
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: third one was one of those like hammer style rides
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: where it swings back and he goes ho hey, like
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the old ship thing. And I got off of that
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: one and I wanted to throw up. I felt like
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I could have thrown up. If I had just coughed hard,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I could have thrown up in front of everybody. And
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: then I was like, oh boy. And then he goes
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: come on, and then we all got in the van
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: again and we're going to this next roller coaster, and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: it was a It was a one that Nate was
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: the most excited about because it's the most It's designed
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: by the guy who did the Wabash cannon ball. It's
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: exactly like the Wabash cannonballs. It's got all these corkscrew
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: dipsy do turns. And that's where Nate worked, was his
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: first job, and so he's very, very nostalgica, but that's
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: why he wants to do the park.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: And it's Nashville.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, So we get off, we get on this ride
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and it's a wooden roller coaster, wooden and iron.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Which is just herckey jerky all over the place.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: And Buddy, we did all these sudden corkscrewed dipsy doos,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and I mean I had to go find a spot
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to just be. If I could have found a private
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: place to throw up after that one, I would have
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: done it. I would have felt better. And then so
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I called it. I called it. The next two I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: did not ride. I just said, I'm gonna, oh, go
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: away from that. There was a lot of guys in
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Nate's crew that did not ride, by the way, like
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: big dudes, like guys who you would think, like, roller
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: coasters are my thing. They were like, not for a
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars would I do this? They go, it's not
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: my thing. I hate them. I hate the feeling of them.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. I go, that's weird. I mean,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: he was like, this guy's like twenty two or something.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is like your best life. You're
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: gonna ride roller coasters for your job. No, No, this
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: is my worst nightmare to be like pressured into this
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: thing that I'm terrified of. Okay, man, So we just left.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: So I joined them after the fourth one because I
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: was like, I can't do so I didn't ride the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: last two. But it was such a funny thing to like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: just you're watching a guy who's like getting to it's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: not just that he's living his dream. He's trying to
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: like build something to where there's gonna be an infrastructure
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: for people to have jobs and people to have a
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: place to bring their family. Like it's such a cool thing.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's amazing. And I think again, our
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: city is has a and that's what I love about
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. Our city has a rich history of it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Even it went away, you know, And I think that's again,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Stephen Kris Chapman.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: What was the reason was it doing poorly when they
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: pulled the plug on it, man, from what I remember,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: or was it just a thing of like we can
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: make we can more.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Money doing them? All I think is what it was.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And I don't even know. You know, you were getting
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: into the really litigious part of American history right then
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: in late twentieth century, if it was just like liability
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: getting too high and maintaining all these things. But my understanding,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and forgive me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: There's a documentary about it, by the way on YouTube
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: that somebody did about losing opry Land and people people
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: being so nostalgic for it and remembering remembering, like I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: can't remember when they announced it. We couldn't believe it,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: and they're just still gutted by it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It was right before I went to college, I think.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: But again, yeah, they would. My parents would dropped me
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: off after church on a Sunday, my brother and I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and some friends, and we were just roam the park,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I mean all summer because we had the summer pass
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: or sometimes Saturday and Sunday, you know, and we just
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: slept in the petting zoo.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It was great, No, but I mean it was so
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: much fun. And I'm trying to think I've ever met
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a girl there. I think, so I was pretty young.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I think I took a lots if you didn't meet them,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it was great.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: They were the screaming Delta Demon remember that one, the Chaos,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: which is one of the first big It was the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: first indoor roller coaster, so chaos.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I never went dopul Inn' that funny East Tennessee, like
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Nashville felt like a million miles away from me. We
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: were dolly with people.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, was like Nashville's Space Mountain. So it was like
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: this indoor in the dark with lights and other stuff
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: thing you waited for ever in that line, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it was all kind of like feel you know, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: strobe you know, kind of right of course, then the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: arcades back then you go playing an arcade, man, you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: just love to just play the games and ride the train.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: They had a train like Dollywood.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they hold up the train. They have the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: gunslingers and hold up the train.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And then do that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: They did So City. That was a big thing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Then they had the sky almost like the ski lift
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: sky thing where you could ride from one side of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the park and the Yeah, you know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So I was asking Nate if he was going to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: do that in his park. He didn't. They they were
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: talking about it. But I mean, I do think that's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. But again, it's like it's like a ride
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that's not really a ride. You're just like a convenience ride. Yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: but I don't know what the plan is but they
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: have a plan. I mean it's it's pretty cool. Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: It's just it's fun to watch him. He gets so
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: wide eyed just thinking about like, oh, I want one
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: of those, and you just got like he gets to
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: go get one of those.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Like it's pretty cool.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And just the cool thing that it's going to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: create jobs. Like I said, it's gonna it's gonna bring
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: something that's just bigger than him. And I think that's
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: what he wants to point in his career.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Well, Nashville, I mean, he can leave a real legacy here.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It's it's a you know, by the way, we just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: got to prove the Super Bowl twenty thirty. Yeah, I mean,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: so Nashville is already kind of the It's town.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: We can Ward's third in a row.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's from that one. We're gonna.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Have you seen our stadium, Like the outside of it
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: it's pretty ugly right now. Maybe the facade of it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: going to be amazing, but it looks like a big
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: square brick of I don't.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Think they're going to make an ugly stadium.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're allowed anymore. I mean, thing's going
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to cost two billion, it's going to be awesome. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you what it looks like now because I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: was downtown yesterday. Yeah, it is gross looking.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Well it's being built.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It's just a blob, you know. If it's so square,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: it's not got any positz to it like the Convention
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Center does has all those undulations and stuff.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: This looks The one thing I don't understand a star
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: about the new stadium is that it's smaller than the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: old stadium. And we're trying to host the Super Bowl.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We've made it smaller. Oh, I don't know about man
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: arrangement or seating capacity. That is interesting, but that whole
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like you know, I guess development down by the river
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: is going to be apparently just unbelievable.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So I live in a development down by the room.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And now think is about that time, John, it's my segment.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They talked about that, not to not to steal anything,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't speak Latin per se. Yeah, but the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: original quote here is in Latin. It's a obsequium amicos
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: veritas odium parit.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I need it'd be a veritas in there somewhere.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Which you know what that is?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: No truth?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, translation, this is from Terrence.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, vino veritas. I know that's the one
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Latin saying on those which is uh in wine. There's truth, right,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: there's a whole thing about like when you're being when
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you're drunk, you're being your real self. That was the old,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: like the old the ancients thought that right, and why
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: there's truth.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: This is Terrence, also known as Publius Tarantius Afer, who
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: was a Roman play right during the Roman Republic. According
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to tradition, he was born in and near Carthage in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: North Africa, brought the Romans a slave by the senator
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Tarentius Lucanus, who was impressed by his abilities, educated him
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and later freed him. He became a part of a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: literary intellectual group, wrote a bunch of plays, and six
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of his comedies survived today, all adapted from different language
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of the time, so around one ninety five BC. Anyway,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: translation translation, compliance produces friends, Truth produces hatred. Huh, compliance
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: produces friends and truth produces hatred. You know, and I think,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to. I don't want to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get into culture wars, and all of a sudden, it's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: just funny how we say that now when like we
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: don't want to just address blatant elephants in the room.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: If there's one thing that drives me crazy, it's like
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the obvious thing that we're not talking about, you know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But even then, I'm not going to talk about some
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: of the obvious things we're not talking about. But I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: do think we can talk about the obvious principles at
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: all times. In fact, I believe pastorally, it's really important
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: what we that we rightly believe certain things. And I mean,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about AI. I'm thinking about sort of the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: assault on the press and media to the point that
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: if you don't like what somebody writes, now, instead of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: like checking their sources or finding out if it's real
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: or going back to the original clip or whatever and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: finding out what said, you can just say that's not real.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And that's getting dangerous to thought. And then I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: about the teenagers that I talked to in their perception
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of what truth is in that I have to tell
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: my daughter all the time, like, listen, there's going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: be a nuggetive truth, but if you got it from TikTok,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: there's a good chance it's not reliable. So it's okay
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to start there, but you need to learn to go
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: other sources to verify or to look. But like this
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: idea of and I do believe this, and I think
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: this is even true from Jesus, Like the scriptures say
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that you shall know the truth, and the truth will
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: set you free, right, And we'd love to quote that,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of context to that idea that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: actually many people hear the truth that doesn't set them free.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Just wasn't like just a truth automatically sets free. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think that Terrence was maybe right on some things.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of times that truth produces hatred, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it certainly did in Christ's life, where he would speak
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: truth in a way that they crucified him for it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And I think also it causes you to go, well,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: if I'm well liked, or I have friends, or I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: have I seem to have no like the way I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: am in the world, the way I believe, what I
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: what I say, what I do, is not producing any pushback.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And it goes back to our conversation. I want friends
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: who push back, Like I want friends to say, hey,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I know what your heart is, but here's maybe where
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you're off or whatever. Like I long for that guidance
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and that maybe maybe to a fault. But man, when
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: when nothing's pushing back in your life, then I think
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it should cause you to stop and go hmm, like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure that's where I should be.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Am I complying?
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Right? Am?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I am? I just conforming to a more comfortable way
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of thought. If everything I see just reinforces only what
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I already believe, and especially to its most extreme place,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and especially when that extreme place it removes the humanity
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: or the human value of another or completely discounts their argument,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: then I need to beware.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So there is a.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Podcast I was telling you about this yesterday.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: So I wrote a book from mister Jim haslm the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: second he's ninety four ninety five now, who founded Pilot
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Corporation and got to kind of chronicle his life and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: journey and through the fifties and with General Neelan from Tennessee.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He played football for him, and it was just it
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: was a great University of Tennessee kind of thing. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: so mister Haslam's one of his sons was Governor Bill Haslam,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: who was the two term governor of Tennessee. And I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: got to meet him a lot and get to know him,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and he was known very much for being someone who
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: worked with everybody. You know. He wrote a book called
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Faithful Presence with Thomas Nelson about how to express your
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: faith in the public square. And again, there's no politician
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: or anyone you're going to have out there that you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: agree with everything they do, or if you do, again,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: then beware of what Terrence is saying. Right, I mean,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: at some point you should not agree with that. There
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: should not be anyone besides Jesus Christ himself, and even
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: then us what Jesus says, you may have a hard
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: time agreeing with that. That's when you obey it right
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: against what you want to do, or what we call
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it obedience. But their governor Haslam is doing a podcast
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: with Governor Brettison, Phil Bretison, who is a two term
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Democratic governor, and it's called you Just Might Be Right,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And I think they're gone on like five seasons and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: it's like wildly popular. But a democratic, a two term
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Democratic Tennessee governor and a two term republic Tennessee governor
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: sit down and they discuss issues in the way that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to not just an American society, but they
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: also come from a place of how their faith would
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: inform the way they respect their opponents. And it's a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: reason the reason is so wildly popular is it's so
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rare now, like that we would do that, and compromise
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: has become Compromise is a word you can use in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: two different ways. You've compromised your morals or hey, man,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: let's find a compromise. And we only think about the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: first way. Now, we never think about compromises being a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: good thing. But the reason they say you might be
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: right is there they're quoting senator right. There was a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: senator who also was in Reagan's cabinet named James Baker,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and there's the James Baker School or Center for Public
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Discourse or whatever the University of Tennessee now. And it
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was one of mister Haslam's kind of mentors and heroes.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: He's back in the seventies sixty seventies, And that was
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: something said, is, hey, the reason you listen to your
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: opponent is and you actually take to heart what they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: say is there's a chance that they might be right
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and you're wrong. And that's how public discourse is supposed
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to happen. It's how relationships work. Right, if you enter
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: into something where you think there's no chance that this
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: person could say anything. And I sometimes we'll start a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: conversation like that, like, hey, before we say anything about
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: this this debatable topic, to be truthful with me, is
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: there anything I could say? Anything I could say you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: think that would change your mind at all in any
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: minute way? And if you go no, there's nothing you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: could do, then what are we going to talk about?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And I will say to them, there are things you
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: could say I would love to hear. I want to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: be open, you know, to this thing. So I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that people may wonder, and I'm not trying to mix
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: politics with a religious conversation on this, but the point
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: is not that our politics should look like our religion
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: at all, because I think those things constitutionally.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: There.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Whether the phrase separation of church and state ever exists,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: certainly in practice, the idea was, Hey, we want to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: make this a place where regardless of what you believe,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you're allowed to believe. That that's you know, in the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Bill of Rights, you protect those things. But I think
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that what we missed inn is that whatever your faith is,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to inform the way you show up in
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: government or politics or public service, and that means being
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: willing to speak truth even if you know someone's going
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to disagree with you because of it, or possibly even
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: hate you for it, and knowing that if we're all
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: just complying with something in order to not lose, we
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: may have a lot of friends, but we may not
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: be really dealing with truth in the way that we could.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So I get that there's political realities. I totally understand that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I get that everything that can be said doesn't have
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to always be said. I understand I'm not naive about it,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but I think that we've gone so far down the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: slope the other way now that it's pretty much a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: game of compliance on all sides, just trying to keep
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as many friends so that we can keep power and influence.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: When a little bit of truth might produce some hatred,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it also might might just save the country.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Johnny Oscar Wilde said, if you want to tell people
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Is that why you do what you do?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: That's because listen, am I a truth teller? I don't
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: want to am I hero?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's for you to decide, But yes, Terence Publius, Tarantius Roman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, John, let's do my thing. Let's start with Johnny's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: old jokes. We call it joke about that a few
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: old jokes today, John. A woman who speaks Spanish walks
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  Speaker 2: into a department store. She walks over to the clerk
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and says, don't das don los chlctines. Clerk doesn't understand Spanish.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: She tries to help her anyways. He holds up a
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: T shirt and says, this what you need. Shakes her head, frowning.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: He holds up a pair of pants. She shakes her
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: head again. After five or six attempts, he holds up
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a pair of socks with an exasperated look. The woman
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: smiles and says, yes, so c ks. The clerks gets
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  Speaker 2: a surfaces is if you knew how to spell it,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: why don't we just start with that a Spanish joke.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It's a Spanish joke, it is, and your pronunciation was exquisite.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Look Calcatines like Lord Calcatine from the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars movies. Dun't dance downal little Calcatines. Is it Calcatines
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  Speaker 2: or count?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I don't remember how pronounced socks.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was done.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Day.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: A woman John on one walks into a pharmacy. My
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: husband is constantly complaining about chest pains, difficulty to breathe in,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: cramps and nausea. Have you got any earpucks? Finally, John,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: an old woman goes to the news. But there's a
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: lot of women in these jokes. An old woman goes
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to the newspaper office after her husband dies, says to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the person at the front desk that she needs to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: get an obituary published for her husband. She gets brought
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: into an office and that is asked what she wants
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: the obituary to say. She thinks and says, Fred Smith died.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: The reporter looks at her and says, miss you can
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: have it, save more than that if you want so.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Little lady things for a second, says Fred Smith died.
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  Speaker 5: Boat for sale, dish poor Fred, the institution of marriage.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe they just maybe she just was
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: maybe she hated that boat, but she was ready, ready
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to cash in on poor Fred.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Poor Fred's untimely to mind. John. Let's do this week
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: in history, we call it talk about then, John, did
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you know this week nineteen fifty a tornado passed over
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a chicken coop in lynnslate England. It caused a sudden
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: dropping pressure so severe that it plucked the feathers off
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: all the chickens. The chickens survived. It's like a Looney
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Tunes cartoon.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, featherless chickens.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: It's just the tornado come and they're all like running
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: around covering themselves. Oh my, like demure Southern ladies.
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  Speaker 1: I think I feel a draft.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: They were plucked. They lived, but you know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Now think about it, you really want to cook them
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and eat it. Yeah, now you're like skipped to the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: hard part.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did. Yes, tough. Well, I mean it
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: says they survived, but it didn't say for how much longer.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're chicken, So it's not a great life,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: no John. Speaking of foul, The NBC Peacock debuted this
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: week nineteen fifty six. It aired its feathers, making its
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: first on air appearance. NBC used the peacock to promote this.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I did not know. This is very savvy. They used
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the peacock to promote their color programming and encourage viewers
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to buy color TV sets because NBC's owner RCA manufactured
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: those color TVs. So this choice of a Peacock was
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: a boy moved to sell. So you'd be looking at
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: your dumb black and white TV and be like, man,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: be nice if I could see the color.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mom, Yeah, She's like, No, we're poor. You're not
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: spending fifty dollars on the TV.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I think the first TVs were mother,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Were they?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, but Today's money Go Nicholson.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is interesting to me that they chose
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it specifically because of the anyway, John, this.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Week that had a hint by the way of like
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: conspiracy in it. When you told it, I just think
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I can't money well, I mean money's honey.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know how much we make on this podcast.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They're doing pretty good.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: John. How would you find more episodes of the podcast?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: If you wanted to do such a thing.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: You got to talk about that podcast dot com over
• 36:46
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• 36:46
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• 36:55
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• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you know, so listen, that's not we don't. We do
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it out of the goodness of our Yeah, John, This
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: week nineteen o three, by television, This week nineteen oh three. Yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: they're like twelve dollars now for an eighty inch This
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: week nineteen oh three, John, The first automobile crossed the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: US under its own power.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: What did it do? I don't know that I had
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: automobiles pulled by animals or something. I don't know animal.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: But the trip began by departing from San Francisco headed
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: for New York City. The automobile was a nineteen o
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: three two cylinder twenty horsepower Winton touring car driven by
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: doctor Horatio Nelson Jackson with his mechanics Sewell Crocker, and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a bulldog, bulldog named Bud that they picked up along
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the way. Why is this not a Disney movie?
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: That was a long trip.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Picked up a bulldog and like there was a photo
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: with this listing and it showed showed Bud the bulldog.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: The trip was undertaken.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: How did they know the bulldog's name?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: They named it Bud? Told him the trip was undertaken
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: on a fifty dollars seventeen hundred and fifty dollars in
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: today's money. Bat And proved that automobiles were a viable
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: form of long distance transportation. Their journey took sixty three days,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: arriving in New York City on July twenty sixth and
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: using over eight hundred US gallons of gasoline. After the trip,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Bud became a celebrity in his own right and was
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: used in advertisements or Winton Automobiles advertisements. Huh is that
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: how you say advertisements? Advertisements? Advertisements is a proper pronunciation
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: if you live in England. Well, we had just done
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the whole thing about being plucked alive in England, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: so I felt like, well, well, how would the chickens
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: pronounce this?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Do you say? Did you say prestigious or prestigious?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Prestigious?
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: See you say I say prestigious.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Well let's call it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Let's call the whole.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Thing, John this, I don't see vitamins or anything or
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: schedule or not that far gone John. This Week seventeen
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: eighty five, Benjamin Franklin writes a letter describing his design
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: for what he called quote double Spectacles.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Now no, as I'm sorry, sorry, hold on has lost
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the name.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Plow and you're wearing them. Probably no bifocals. His invention
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: consisted for pair of glasses in which the upper part
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: of the lens and lower part of lens had each
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: had different focusing powers. This allowed Franklin to focus on
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: distant objects when looking up and near objects when looking down.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I can't get used to them, so I still have
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I only wear glasses when I drive and h or
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: when I'm in an airport and I need to see
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: signs far away. I'll wear them sometimes, But other than that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I don't wear them because I just because now all
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: close up stuff looks blurry to me, and I could
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: just get bifocals or whatever whatever they're called progressives. Yes, can't.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I can't get I can't imagine getting used to it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: So I just need to bite the bullet and do it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Don't it just be a glazy guy.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: My wife hates it. She won't do it either.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't. I don't like the way they
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: look on my face.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I don't mind on my face, but I wear only
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: reading glasses. But now I can't see hardly any thing,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: like on my table or whatever without little glasses so
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: or like at meals, I have to see that to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: see the other person. Well, it's bad. My eyes have
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: gotten worse. Podcast about Edging Dark.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: End of the show. Yeah John. Finally, this week, sixteen
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: twenty six, the island of Manhattan was purchased from the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Indians by Peter Minuittt for the Dutch for goods valued
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: at cost cost of Manhattan.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Fifteen dollars twenty four dollars.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, and uh, now you can buy a sandwich in
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Manhattan for about twenty four dollars. Yeah, just a a
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: waffle cone ice cream is twenty four dollars in Manhattan.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds good.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Park your car for five minutes. Yeah, it's an expensive place,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: is what we're way.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you're not catching on. It's uh, but.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: They did the right thing because now it smells like
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: hot garbage all the time. I actually like New York.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could live there, but it is
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a very high energy. Like being there is a very
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it's a very specific energy.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: My wife and I want to live there for three months.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Three months, I think like a sabbatical. Maybe one time
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: we like have.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: That experience and then we'd be ready.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I think to what if it didn't What if it
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: didn't fade. You know, we're people.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: What if like I got a job as an executive
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: at RCA.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Square foot efficiency, Yeah, it could be.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Don't think I'm big.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not cut out for the big city. I like
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: traveling to big cities, and then I like getting back.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I always feel good getting back home. I like a
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: home base.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love to travel, but yes, I want to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: go home. But I don't know almost where you hang
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: your hat, it's wherever my family is, Johnny. It's true, actually,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: but I'm not. If my family's with me out traveling,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: then I'm good, you know what I'm saying. But like
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: if they're not, then I'm like, yeah, I want to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: go home. I think that's like the whole that I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: have to take care of them thing, so have to,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: john Well, yeah, it's duty and honor.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Is that? How about get to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: To take care of and fun?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: God, well, you know, Johnny, we learned a lot today
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: we did. I think that people walk.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Along the chicken. Honestly, I'm craving chicken.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And craving that featherless chicken. Yeah, and almost ran over
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a turkey yesterday in the road.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I hope no, just.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Funny story. I think Johnny's got a lot of shows
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: coming up that you guys need to be I do.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: In fact, I don't know when this will. This will
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: drop Thursday, So if it's Thursday, you need to get
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: yourself to Crosby, Texas or Friday. May twenty second Live
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and Laughing Tour is kicking off. All the rescheduled dates
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: from the old scooter mishappen. You get to hear the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: whole story.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're telling a story.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Telling the story, and you know, we may have some
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: visual aids that were whipping up for everybody. Because I
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: feel like I owe him an explanation these crowds, Are
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you making a joke?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Says you got it?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I feel like these people are owed an
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: explanation more than the others because they had tickets and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: all that they had to wait and get the dumb
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: rescheduled dates.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: What if they're like, I just wanted the hits.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah I don't know. No, I don't want be any
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: of that. Okay, yeah, that's I've already. I've cried, listened
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: my eyes or drive john from all the tears. I've
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: cried the last month getting better for you people. But yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: twenty second is UH Crosby, Texas near Houston, north of Houston,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and then we're going to UH a town called Wilson,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: North Carolina, which is near Raleigh Durham on the twenty third,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and then so many other dates. Man, we have a
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: ton of that we just put on the website and
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: so I'm so busy for the rest of the year.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Please come say hello. And if you live near Knoxville,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: big show that I have coming up in August is
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: at the BJU Theater, which is I grew up going
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to shows there. It's one of my favorite venues ever,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and so it's kind of a dream to sell out
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: the BESU and we've already sold a bunch of those tickets.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to open for Nate in a couple
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: of weekends in Knoxville a Thompson Bowling Arena, and we're
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: going to announce that show then and I expected to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: sell out. So if you want tickets to that one
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: in Knoxville, Tennessee August twenty ninth, you need to get
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: those tickets now because it's gonna be a hot one.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry I can't come to the innate show.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Lot of town for volleyball. Oh big surprise, I know
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I chose my daughter over you again.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, it's fine. At least we got to have
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: late lunch today. Yeah, when you figured out what time
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: zone you were in?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that. I don't I'm not very I'm not
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: a very good friend.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: No that you're just stuck in it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Man, these are just shows in a lot of years. Now,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You're a good friend.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You might as well finish it out. You know what
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: You're an average too good.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: You're fair to Midland guys. We think you, though, are
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: way better than fair too Midland. You guys are amazing
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: listeners and that means a lot to us that you
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: join us every week on this podcast that we produce
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: for you. And you know what, we invite you when
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you come back next week, let's do it again here
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: on talk about.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: That to do.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: That back then, but the blame a backfoot back about that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Nothing