Latest / Long Haul Marriage Roadcast / Do Not Disturb! "I'm on my phone" (Translated - This TiKTok is More Important Than You)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, oh you were telling me. You weren't telling me
- 0:27Speaker 1: do not disturb.
- 0:28Speaker 2: You were turning my phone off, although it usually stays
- 0:33Speaker 2: do not disturb.
- 0:34Speaker 1: That's gonna be that. I know every time I text
- 0:37Speaker 1: you do not disturb. I'm want to bother anyway. Yeah,
- 0:41Speaker 1: go ahead, all right, So the first three words on
- 0:45Speaker 1: our podcast today.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Do not disturb.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Is that what this one's going to be about.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Speaking of do not disturb? Are you using my lips up?
- 0:55Speaker 2: I've been. My lips are so dry, my hands are
- 0:59Speaker 2: so dry.
- 1:00Speaker 1: In the feet, my feet. I noticed your feet.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Back at the bottom of Ellison.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Sand sandpaper when I was rubbing them when I was
- 1:07Speaker 1: giving you your nightly foot row.
- 1:09Speaker 2: He does not. But also, I wait where she is.
- 1:14Speaker 1: That's a clue. You said he does not. So you're
- 1:16Speaker 1: talking to them. You're not talking to me right now?
- 1:18Speaker 2: You do not?
- 1:20Speaker 1: No, you do not, remember you're talking to me.
- 1:23Speaker 2: I'm talking to you.
- 1:26Speaker 1: No, Let's talk to them. Let's do some Hey, hayes,
- 1:29Speaker 1: are you are you ready for some? Hey?
- 1:31Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Can I yeah?
- 1:36Speaker 2: You too? Early one?
- 1:37Speaker 1: One?
- 1:37Speaker 2: Hey? Hey, Hey, hey to Carrissa Davis my friend.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Wow, yes, Carissa detail cutesy, extraordinary everything. Man, she is
- 1:52Speaker 1: so sweet. And those glasses last night.
- 1:54Speaker 2: I loved him. I'm going to ask her where she
- 1:56Speaker 2: got them.
- 1:57Speaker 1: I'm I think Warby Parker, That's what I'm think.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I think Amazon.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Amazon. Okay, they were very stylish then, but like.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Not real, so I would have to definitely get the reader.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Version her bast boys last night, you're boys running that event,
- 2:13Speaker 1: our love and Lattes event at justin Coffee Trading.
- 2:17Speaker 2: No, justin Coffee co.
- 2:19Speaker 1: No, it's not justin coffee co It's not. Okay, hang on, everybody.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Okay, just let's call it justin Coffee.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Hang on, I'm gonna look it up justin because she
- 2:29Speaker 1: told us it was not coffee CoA coffee.
- 2:31Speaker 2: It's just justin coffee, is all she says.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Justin Coffee and Trading company. It that justin Coffee and
- 2:38Speaker 1: Trading Long I saw the hat. Okay, so justin Coffee
- 2:42Speaker 1: and Coffee.
- 2:42Speaker 2: So cute cute shop in justin Texas. If y'all haven't
- 2:48Speaker 2: been and you live close or close ish, it's worth
- 2:50Speaker 2: the drive. It's a cute cute shop, yummy coffee, cute
- 2:54Speaker 2: little places to sit. The outdoor place is phenomenal, and
- 2:59Speaker 2: the shop experience is just darling. They have really really cute,
- 3:05Speaker 2: cute stuff.
- 3:06Speaker 1: So you know what I'd love to do.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Heather Beth Carissa whoever is the buyer for our event?
- 3:12Speaker 1: Last night, I was I was walking around facetiming Carson,
- 3:15Speaker 1: showing them the little lawn out there where they've got
- 3:17Speaker 1: you know, the seats, the corner hole, and they've got
- 3:19Speaker 1: the airstream trailer. And then they've got the fireplaces you
- 3:23Speaker 1: talked about up on the patio with the I mean
- 3:26Speaker 1: the roaring fire was going. But in case they don't
- 3:29Speaker 1: have the fireplace going, they've got the heat lamps. What
- 3:32Speaker 1: a cool, cool place and cool. He could do a
- 3:35Speaker 1: little podcast from there. Oh, set up what we do
- 3:39Speaker 1: a podcast from the remote location. I've got that. That
- 3:44Speaker 1: is so and we do the Q and A from
- 3:48Speaker 1: people sitting on the on the patio.
- 3:50Speaker 2: That would be fun.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Okay, So hey, hey and coffee coat
- 3:58Speaker 1: and our event last night and lattes. I think I
- 4:01Speaker 1: want to download from that. But before that, I'm going
- 4:04Speaker 1: to just so I can get this laptop out of
- 4:06Speaker 1: my lap. A shout out to several countries. Sout to Dubai. Yep,
- 4:14Speaker 1: United States, United Arab Emeritus, United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Camean
- 4:21Speaker 1: Islands in Norway. So United Arab, let's see Dubai. Yes,
- 4:27Speaker 1: and we have two listeners from Dubai. So welcome our Dubaians.
- 4:32Speaker 1: I wonder if that's what you said.
- 4:34Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what you say. What if
- 4:36Speaker 2: we did? What if we did a no, a marriage
- 4:42Speaker 2: conference in retreat in Dubai. What if we did that'd
- 4:47Speaker 2: be pretty cool. Yeah, it looks like a beautiful city.
- 4:50Speaker 1: It does. It looks like I've seen a post that
- 4:54Speaker 1: can't you can't like throw a swing a dead cat
- 4:58Speaker 1: without hitting a laborghini or wow. Okay, nice cars. Sorry
- 5:08Speaker 1: I am distracted. Okay, so I'll get rid of this.
- 5:11Speaker 1: But hey, hey to all our countries listen to our podcast.
- 5:14Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys tuning in.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah we do.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And yeah, i'd be looking forward to the marriage conference
- 5:21Speaker 1: in Dubai. Well, let's manifest that.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Let's do it and manifest being in having a listener
- 5:30Speaker 2: listeners in all fifty states okay of the US. How
- 5:35Speaker 2: cool would that be?
- 5:36Speaker 1: I'm setting this timer because okay, we have.
- 5:39Speaker 2: To because you're long winded.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Okay, so let's talk about love and LTEs.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Last night. What a again cool, cool venue, but what
- 5:50Speaker 1: a great event that was. So we had these couples
- 5:54Speaker 1: in this very intimate space last week the library. The
- 5:57Speaker 1: library very good, and we talked about a lot of stuff.
- 6:02Speaker 1: And we don't want to let the cat out of
- 6:04Speaker 1: the bag because we want you to come to our
- 6:05Speaker 1: next one. Yeah, the next one's going to be in March,
- 6:08Speaker 1: and it's going to be called Lucky in Love.
- 6:10Speaker 2: March twenty second, from five to seven pm.
- 6:13Speaker 1: March twenty second, five to seven pm. I'll put that
- 6:16Speaker 1: in the notes of this episode. One of my highlights
- 6:20Speaker 1: last night was You're going to be so the charcouterie,
- 6:24Speaker 1: that the flat bread. I mean, those were highlights. But
- 6:28Speaker 1: my highlight was when we were talking about and I
- 6:30Speaker 1: think we may have said it on the last episode.
- 6:32Speaker 1: We were talking about how we learned at our EXO
- 6:35Speaker 1: marriage conference that your brain releases the same amount of
- 6:39Speaker 1: oxytocin when you hug for twenty seconds as it does
- 6:44Speaker 1: when you have an orgasm. So I should have worn
- 6:48Speaker 1: the kids. So if you have kids in the room,
- 6:53Speaker 1: hello kids, my kids. So we said, so it was
- 6:57Speaker 1: about the oxytocin release in your brain. And so we
- 7:01Speaker 1: said we're going to stand up and we're going to
- 7:03Speaker 1: have this bonding time of a twenty second hug. And
- 7:06Speaker 1: after we did it, the guy in the back raised
- 7:08Speaker 1: his hand and he goes, I want to mention his name,
- 7:12Speaker 1: and he said, hey, it didn't work. It didn't work,
- 7:16Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, yeah. There were so many things
- 7:19Speaker 1: that we said, but you got to show up live
- 7:22Speaker 1: to have the fun experience.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Yes, man, yeah, so fun. You know what, It was
- 7:27Speaker 2: a great group. They were all just there like relaxed
- 7:31Speaker 2: and ready to just have fun. That's what I love
- 7:35Speaker 2: the most. It's not stuffy, you know. One of the
- 7:37Speaker 2: guys came in and he was like, I don't know
- 7:41Speaker 2: what I'm about to show up for. And his wife said,
- 7:43Speaker 2: she's nervous. He's nervous, Like, he's like, what'd you sign
- 7:46Speaker 2: us up for? And is this marriage counseling? And she's like, no,
- 7:50Speaker 2: it's not marriage counseling. And she looked at me. It's
- 7:52Speaker 2: not marriage counseling, is it?
- 7:53Speaker 1: I said no, so, and then when I did our
- 7:56Speaker 1: little intro, they were like, yeah, it kind of is marriage.
- 8:00Speaker 2: So I do think that people were pleasantly surprised, Like
- 8:03Speaker 2: I don't know if they knew exactly what to expect.
- 8:05Speaker 2: But it was a fun, chill night, like a fun
- 8:09Speaker 2: date night. Nothing was too awkward. Maybe the twenty second
- 8:13Speaker 2: hug was awkward, but hey, we're nothing if not awkward.
- 8:16Speaker 2: But you know, they could they.
- 8:18Speaker 1: The fun aest part of the night.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Yeah, they could get a bottle of wine. Justin was
- 8:22Speaker 2: offering like ten percent off a bottle of wine. So
- 8:26Speaker 2: people got their you know, their their wine or their
- 8:29Speaker 2: water or their you know, flat rowe said they're lattes.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I did get a very yummy latte from Chrissa.
- 8:37Speaker 1: And just the size of the room, the number of
- 8:40Speaker 1: couples that we had, And I think too, I think
- 8:44Speaker 1: people like, am I going to have to, you know,
- 8:47Speaker 1: introduce myself or we're gonna have to introduce ourselves. That
- 8:50Speaker 1: that whole fear of public speaking or just having to
- 8:53Speaker 1: go around the room, And we didn't do any of that.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It was just it was just the right amount of fun.
- 8:58Speaker 1: As far as the intro thing in the eye breaker,
- 9:01Speaker 1: no one was put on the spot. They did not
- 9:03Speaker 1: have to speak. You weren't outing your spouse in any way.
- 9:06Speaker 1: It was just yes, man, it was a great time.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Yeah. So I will say for the March one and
- 9:11Speaker 2: for anyones that we do in the future, it is
- 9:14Speaker 2: you know, an intimate setting and so tickets are way
- 9:17Speaker 2: way way you know limited.
- 9:20Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's sold out in.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Yeah, super quickly. But we'll we'll have more coming up.
- 9:27Speaker 2: But I would say if you registration opens up uh tomorrow,
- 9:32Speaker 2: on Monday, the day that this podcast will come out.
- 9:35Speaker 2: So registration opens up soon. So be watching. Go to
- 9:38Speaker 2: Justin Coffee co when you can find your you can
- 9:41Speaker 2: get your tickets there. Yeah, but it'll be it'll sell
- 9:44Speaker 2: out quick. So and you know, think of a couple
- 9:47Speaker 2: you want to bring with you, invite you know, a
- 9:49Speaker 2: few friends or whatever. It'll be a great, great time.
- 9:52Speaker 2: One of the couples last night said they want to
- 9:54Speaker 2: come back in March and they are going to invite
- 9:58Speaker 2: their kids. And I don't mean kids like baby kids.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I mean they're like grown adults that are married anyway,
- 10:07Speaker 2: you don't have to be married. We had a couple
- 10:09Speaker 2: there last night that was I don't even know if
- 10:12Speaker 2: they're engaged.
- 10:13Speaker 1: But interesting, I didn't know that. Yeah, I was talking
- 10:17Speaker 1: to them all like they were married. You shouldn't have
- 10:18Speaker 1: done the twenty second hugg did.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Yeah, we should have. Oh it's fine, Okay, yeah, it's fine.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I told mister it didn't work, that he was doing
- 10:26Speaker 1: it wrong. So one of the questions that the lady
- 10:32Speaker 1: asked during one of our.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Q and A times, just in the middle of it,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I think.
- 10:38Speaker 1: In the middle, but she was talking about the phone
- 10:41Speaker 1: and the distraction that the phone can be in this context,
- 10:46Speaker 1: she was just saying, man, what do I do? How
- 10:47Speaker 1: do I approach it? When I think we were talking
- 10:49Speaker 1: about the open, honest communication and how being listened to
- 10:53Speaker 1: for women is such a huge, huge deal. We all
- 10:57Speaker 1: want to be listened to, We want to be heard,
- 10:58Speaker 1: We want to know that our house is paying attention
- 11:01Speaker 1: to us. And how easy it is to be distracted
- 11:05Speaker 1: with the damn phone. And so when the phone, can
- 11:09Speaker 1: I say damn on the podcast?
- 11:10Speaker 2: Well you did, so there we go.
- 11:13Speaker 1: It's fine if God were to damn anything.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Just to come on you the cell phone, me too,
- 11:17Speaker 2: just keep going.
- 11:19Speaker 1: So she said, how do you say it in a
- 11:21Speaker 1: nice way when you feel like your husband is not
- 11:24Speaker 1: listening to you, he's distracted, he's looking on his phone,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and so so you know, how do you do that?
- 11:31Speaker 2: So I shared last night that sometimes when you would be,
- 11:37Speaker 2: you know, doing something on your phone, I would just
- 11:41Speaker 2: start telling some kind of story and think he is
- 11:43Speaker 2: not even hearing me one single bit, and so I
- 11:46Speaker 2: would like, just go on with my story, not really.
- 11:50Speaker 1: In my face when I've checked out.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Uh huh. And so then I would say did you
- 11:54Speaker 2: even hear what I asked? Or I would ask you
- 11:56Speaker 2: a question and you would be like, wait what huh.
- 12:00Speaker 2: So then I started thinking, you know what, I'm not
- 12:02Speaker 2: going to just keep on telling the story or asking
- 12:06Speaker 2: a question when I don't feel like I have your
- 12:09Speaker 2: full attention, because I feel like what I'm saying is
- 12:12Speaker 2: worth it and I want you to you know, I
- 12:14Speaker 2: don't want to just waste my breath. And so what
- 12:16Speaker 2: I would do is start a story or ask a
- 12:18Speaker 2: question or whatever, and if I could tell you weren't engaged,
- 12:21Speaker 2: I would just kind of stop and say I'll wait
- 12:25Speaker 2: until I can tell you're doing something. I'll wait till
- 12:27Speaker 2: you're done or whatever, and not to sound like mother
- 12:32Speaker 2: son or teacher student at all. So that well, like
- 12:36Speaker 2: I if I remember with you know, like whenever I
- 12:40Speaker 2: talk first and second grade, it would be like, you know,
- 12:43Speaker 2: the teacher clap or one, two, three, eyes on me.
- 12:46Speaker 2: You know, I'll wait, Yeah, I'll wait till you're ready.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I'll wait. So I didn't want to come across like that,
- 12:52Speaker 2: So I was kind of afraid. Did it sound like
- 12:55Speaker 2: that to you or was that an okay thing? Because
- 12:58Speaker 2: that's kind of what I've done, is if I start
- 13:01Speaker 2: talking and I can tell you're engaged in something on
- 13:03Speaker 2: your phone, then I'll usually just stop.
- 13:05Speaker 1: I think she and she had asked the question in
- 13:07Speaker 1: the context of after going over that our mega need
- 13:11Speaker 1: for men is to feel honored and respected, and is
- 13:14Speaker 1: it disrespectful when you kind of she said, I don't
- 13:17Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm nagging at him to put
- 13:19Speaker 1: down his phone and listen, but you should be able
- 13:22Speaker 1: to garner our attention without a shout right. And again,
- 13:28Speaker 1: it's hard. We get to the point where we are distracted,
- 13:31Speaker 1: and we never mean to feel We don't want to
- 13:35Speaker 1: make you feel like we don't care, or you're not significant,
- 13:38Speaker 1: or you're not funny, or we don't want to listen
- 13:40Speaker 1: to your story, but we're in the middle of the game,
- 13:42Speaker 1: or we're in the middle of some video or watching
- 13:45Speaker 1: and it's just sometimes it's really really hard. But what's
- 13:49Speaker 1: the message that it sends to you? When I mean,
- 13:53Speaker 1: is that something's more important than you? Yeah?
- 13:56Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it it could if we're not careful.
- 14:00Speaker 2: And it's it's this generation. It is the phone, it
- 14:03Speaker 2: is the TV. It is the multiple choices of distractions,
- 14:07Speaker 2: Like there is a plethora, just a buffet in front
- 14:10Speaker 2: of us of something that's going to take our eyes,
- 14:13Speaker 2: our attention, our thoughts to something else above what's right
- 14:17Speaker 2: in front of us, the most important thing. So you know,
- 14:21Speaker 2: it's it's it's hard because I think it's a battle
- 14:24Speaker 2: that every unless you don't have a TV in your house,
- 14:27Speaker 2: or unless you don't have a cell phone, or you
- 14:30Speaker 2: have really good boundaries on yourself.
- 14:31Speaker 1: So everybody got a TV, everybody got a cellphone, right,
- 14:34Speaker 1: But yeah, you have to set the boundaries. We've talked
- 14:36Speaker 1: about being intentional about everything else. You got to you
- 14:39Speaker 1: gotta set it down, you got to turn it off.
- 14:41Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about how the threat for a
- 14:42Speaker 1: toddler when the the iPhone is not just in the
- 14:46Speaker 1: mom's hand but in the room with the parent, right
- 14:49Speaker 1: in the room. It's like while she or he mom
- 14:52Speaker 1: or dad could go pick that thing up, and then
- 14:55Speaker 1: it's it's over. They're not gonna watch me. They're not
- 14:57Speaker 1: gonna pay attention to me. How I answered her last
- 15:01Speaker 1: night was not in the heat of the moment, if
- 15:03Speaker 1: you will, like we''s trying to talk to him. I mean, yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 1: you can say hey, can you put the phone down?
- 15:08Speaker 1: Or but it's later on. What made an impact on
- 15:12Speaker 1: me is you basically pulling me aside, just at another
- 15:15Speaker 1: time and saying, man, Brian, I don't feel like you
- 15:18Speaker 1: listen to me. I feel like you're just distracted all
- 15:21Speaker 1: the time. I feel like you pay attention to everyone
- 15:23Speaker 1: else or everything else. And so and here's how it
- 15:26Speaker 1: makes me feel. That made an impact on me. I mean,
- 15:28Speaker 1: I hated hearing that. It wasn't being scolded in the moment,
- 15:32Speaker 1: you know. And there are times where you know, I
- 15:35Speaker 1: hold up the fingers like oh wait, wait, wait, just
- 15:37Speaker 1: let me let me finish this, and then okay, sweetheart,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and then I do I put the phone down. But
- 15:41Speaker 1: we've kind of gotten into that, we've finally evolved to
- 15:45Speaker 1: that because it finally stuck and I was just talking
- 15:48Speaker 1: to the guys last night. Man, if your heart is
- 15:51Speaker 1: I want to make my spouse feel treasured and cherished
- 15:55Speaker 1: and like that, I'm important. You do have to put
- 15:58Speaker 1: the phone down. You can't act interrupted or perturbed or disturbed. Right,
- 16:03Speaker 1: we do not disturb. It's a great episode title. You
- 16:07Speaker 1: have to act like you know, I wow, I'm married
- 16:12Speaker 1: to this woman. I want to know what she has
- 16:15Speaker 1: to say. I know what she's thinking about right now,
- 16:17Speaker 1: and it's more important. And look, we're not bad people,
- 16:21Speaker 1: We're human. And the phone is addictive. It is very addicting. Man,
- 16:25Speaker 1: the adrenaline rush, the dopamine hit for all this stuff.
- 16:29Speaker 1: And you know, I'm excited to learn about ancient civilizations, right,
- 16:34Speaker 1: the ancient technology that was using these civilizations and things
- 16:37Speaker 1: that we're uncovering. I could go binge that stuff and
- 16:42Speaker 1: get into that. And I mean, name your thing right
- 16:44Speaker 1: that we're all into. But it's like, are you going
- 16:47Speaker 1: to devote your life to that? Are you going to
- 16:50Speaker 1: devote all of your time and attention to that? And
- 16:52Speaker 1: then when you're your lifelong you know, a spouse that
- 16:56Speaker 1: you say you're going to forsake all others. That doesn't
- 16:59Speaker 1: just mean people. When you make that vow are you
- 17:02Speaker 1: going to forsake this, this interest, this hobby when they
- 17:07Speaker 1: need attention. And it's not like the king saying come
- 17:12Speaker 1: come forward, okay, speak like like we have the power
- 17:15Speaker 1: as men or husbands to tell you when to speak
- 17:18Speaker 1: or vice versa. You know, it can be this spouse saying, oh,
- 17:20Speaker 1: I'll tell you when I want to pay attention to you.
- 17:23Speaker 1: It's showing them they have the floor when they want it.
- 17:26Speaker 2: H yeah, that they they matter above anything else. But
- 17:31Speaker 2: I get it when you know, if you're working, you know,
- 17:37Speaker 2: I think we as you know, women, or could be
- 17:41Speaker 2: vice versa too, we need to be cognizant of you know, okay,
- 17:46Speaker 2: they're in the middle of something, you know, and so
- 17:51Speaker 2: you know when when is a good time, you know
- 17:53Speaker 2: to talk, because probably anytime during the day. Like I
- 17:56Speaker 2: do love my quiet time. I love to be quiet
- 17:59Speaker 2: and not talk at all and not listen at all.
- 18:01Speaker 2: But then once I kind of get cranked up, I
- 18:04Speaker 2: could think of lots of things I want to throw out,
- 18:07Speaker 2: you know, thing to oh, I meant to tell you
- 18:09Speaker 2: about this that happened the other day, or you know whatever,
- 18:13Speaker 2: and so you know, I think it is it's the
- 18:17Speaker 2: most important, just to show her she's the most important.
- 18:20Speaker 2: You value her above whatever it is you're watching or
- 18:24Speaker 2: listening to. You know.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to talking about boundaries. You said that,
- 18:30Speaker 1: so setting boundaries, you know, the no phone zone, when
- 18:32Speaker 1: are sometimes I mean, we have to do this. You
- 18:35Speaker 1: have to be intentional about times without phone, without Netflix.
- 18:39Speaker 1: You know, it's I was saying last night, we don't
- 18:42Speaker 1: there's no excuse anymore for us to be literally holding
- 18:46Speaker 1: up our banger. Wait wait, wait, wait, let me finish this.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Because you've got a pause button, you've got to rewind.
- 18:50Speaker 1: You can stream anything at any time, right, So think
- 18:53Speaker 1: about that. How many times like this show is going
- 18:56Speaker 1: to be more important than whatever you have to say? Right?
- 19:00Speaker 1: Every once in a while, it's going to happen, right,
- 19:02Speaker 1: And I get it, you're in mid thought or you're
- 19:03Speaker 1: focused on something and you don't want to be distracted.
- 19:06Speaker 1: How have we handled that? I want to go back
- 19:08Speaker 1: to that cause I think we have. You mentioned it,
- 19:11Speaker 1: but I think we've got a good system. And then
- 19:12Speaker 1: I want to talk about the boundaries. When is a
- 19:14Speaker 1: good time to set boundaries for no phones?
- 19:18Speaker 2: So I feel like dinner, you know, when we're around
- 19:21Speaker 2: the table. That's a really important time. And then you know,
- 19:27Speaker 2: when you and I like have our times or we're
- 19:29Speaker 2: just it's like an intentional time that we've set, you know,
- 19:32Speaker 2: whether it's just hey, let's go outside for ten minutes
- 19:34Speaker 2: and watch the sunset, or let's have our you know,
- 19:37Speaker 2: we have our weekly vision meeting or whatever. I think
- 19:40Speaker 2: times like that that where we've really intentionally set something aside,
- 19:45Speaker 2: phones down, yeah, you know, we're not great about this,
- 19:48Speaker 2: but like phones before bedtime. You know, I think I
- 19:51Speaker 2: don't even know all the research, but I know there's
- 19:54Speaker 2: a ton on what it does, the lighting and all
- 19:57Speaker 2: the quick pictures and the everything that it does. What's
- 20:01Speaker 2: what you fall what you fall asleep with?
- 20:04Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and how many just fragmented, disjointed, incoherent you know,
- 20:10Speaker 1: images and stories and storylines and narratives. I mean, it's
- 20:13Speaker 1: just there's no there's there's nothing peaceful about that.
- 20:17Speaker 2: You know.
- 20:18Speaker 1: We joke. Everyone jokes about their spouse sitting you know,
- 20:21Speaker 1: five feet away from one another and like sending each
- 20:24Speaker 1: other videos or texting one another in their same the
- 20:27Speaker 1: same room. I mean, we giggle about that. But just
- 20:30Speaker 1: think how often that happens and then just think about
- 20:33Speaker 1: what that's doing. You're sitting there with your phone in
- 20:36Speaker 1: your hand, you're staring at it, You're in your little world.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Your spouse is over there with their phone in their hand,
- 20:41Speaker 1: in their little world, and there is no interaction going on.
- 20:45Speaker 1: And if it's the I mean, you and I will
- 20:48Speaker 1: just here look at this, you know, we'll show each
- 20:50Speaker 1: other the video. And but many times again we've gotten
- 20:54Speaker 1: to where I'd literally see these videos you know of people,
- 20:59Speaker 1: uh And I had a couple talking about this. They
- 21:02Speaker 1: have their air and their AirPods in, you know, and
- 21:05Speaker 1: they have to send the other one the video because
- 21:07Speaker 1: they don't want to interrupt their flow of their scrolling.
- 21:10Speaker 1: And I just think, again, it's sad. It's not the judgment.
- 21:14Speaker 1: If we're not like trying to come down or condemn
- 21:16Speaker 1: people for this, we it's again, we're human. It is
- 21:19Speaker 1: an epidemic, and we're falling into the trap. Social media
- 21:22Speaker 1: is not good. The phone is a huge distraction. The
- 21:26Speaker 1: other thing is it's a very convenient way to reach
- 21:30Speaker 1: out right. You can DM someone, you can like something,
- 21:33Speaker 1: you can comment. And so we've seen a lot of
- 21:36Speaker 1: couples getting in trouble because they're liking something or following
- 21:39Speaker 1: someone or commenting on something on some post, and the
- 21:43Speaker 1: spouse immediate red alert's like wait, wait, wait, wait, why
- 21:45Speaker 1: are you paying attention to them? And again, if you've
- 21:48Speaker 1: got your phone in your hand all night, you are
- 21:50Speaker 1: paying more attention to anything and everything other than your spouse. Yeah,
- 21:55Speaker 1: it's such.
- 21:56Speaker 2: A problem, you know, it's it's complicated. And yeah, because
- 22:01Speaker 2: the phone is like it never stops. It's not like
- 22:04Speaker 2: you know when growing up, like even like not the phone,
- 22:06Speaker 2: but the TV. You know, there was a certain time
- 22:09Speaker 2: where it would just like play the national anthem or
- 22:12Speaker 2: whatever and go to a you know, you would hear
- 22:15Speaker 2: just like white noise or whatever. And if you're if
- 22:19Speaker 2: you're too young to remember that, you're too young, but
- 22:23Speaker 2: if you're our age, you probably remember that. Well, now
- 22:26Speaker 2: it's you have full access to watch anything you want
- 22:30Speaker 2: anytime of the day or night. And then same thing
- 22:32Speaker 2: with your phone, like it's not gonna set boundaries for you.
- 22:35Speaker 2: You know, social media doesn't stop at nine o'clock. I
- 22:38Speaker 2: mean you could scroll all night long. You could start
- 22:42Speaker 2: your morning every single day.
- 22:44Speaker 1: They're losing sleep people more, and you know, more people
- 22:47Speaker 1: are they're saying they're insomniacs, whether or not they're just
- 22:50Speaker 1: getting on their phone.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I've noticed, Maybe we could just kind
- 22:54Speaker 2: of chat about this. But whenever I just begin to
- 22:59Speaker 2: screw and just numb out, and I'm not saying like
- 23:03Speaker 2: I do a lot of work from my phone, I
- 23:06Speaker 2: see some really cool things. You know, it's not not
- 23:09Speaker 2: all bad, but there has to be a time and
- 23:12Speaker 2: a place for it, you know. But when it begins
- 23:14Speaker 2: to be kind of like a medication or just a
- 23:18Speaker 2: boredom or you're just numbing out and you kind of
- 23:21Speaker 2: stop scrolling and it's been thirty minutes or whatever an hour,
- 23:25Speaker 2: you I feel like there's like no creativity in me,
- 23:29Speaker 2: no like motivation to It's like we've lost the kind
- 23:36Speaker 2: of the art of like boredom or wonder or like
- 23:40Speaker 2: what if you didn't fill every single space, you know,
- 23:45Speaker 2: every single quiet space with some kind of video, some
- 23:48Speaker 2: kind of hilarious thing, some kind of like there's there's
- 23:52Speaker 2: just not really many times where you just sit and
- 23:56Speaker 2: are still without something, you know, keeping your attention.
- 24:01Speaker 1: It'd be an interesting exercise if you just pulled up
- 24:04Speaker 1: pull open you know, reels or TikTok or whatever and
- 24:09Speaker 1: started because the algorithms figured it out right, and it's
- 24:13Speaker 1: sending you the stuff that you've been interested in or
- 24:15Speaker 1: you've been watching or whatever. And unless you're doing a
- 24:18Speaker 1: deep dive on something or kind of a rabbit hole,
- 24:20Speaker 1: it'd be interesting even if you were just to write
- 24:24Speaker 1: down just number one, number two, number three, what you're watching,
- 24:29Speaker 1: and just take a log of it, just do the
- 24:31Speaker 1: top ten. It's like, what did I just watch? What
- 24:33Speaker 1: did I just let consume the last thirty minutes, the
- 24:36Speaker 1: last hour. So, I mean, we could talk about screen time,
- 24:39Speaker 1: limiting screen time, having no phones at the dinner table,
- 24:43Speaker 1: no phones in the bedroom. We could say all that,
- 24:45Speaker 1: but let's go back to I mean, you know, people
- 24:48Speaker 1: talking about the science behind how it's rewiring our brains
- 24:51Speaker 1: and we're all becoming we're just malfunctioning as people because
- 24:55Speaker 1: we're on you know, social media, and it is an addiction, right,
- 24:58Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about that. It's just how
- 25:01Speaker 1: addicted are you? But check yourself. We could say, turn
- 25:04Speaker 1: it off, try to do a fast you know, people
- 25:06Speaker 1: talk about this, but let's go back to how it
- 25:08Speaker 1: makes us feel when I see you over there in
- 25:11Speaker 1: the corner and you're on the phone, let's say for
- 25:13Speaker 1: an hour, and we haven't spoken, So what I You know,
- 25:18Speaker 1: I could be thinking, well, what's she interested in? Who
- 25:21Speaker 1: is she interested in? You know? Why is she not
- 25:23Speaker 1: interested in me? Right? All the messages that it's sending
- 25:26Speaker 1: to our spouse and then if we're I mean good night,
- 25:29Speaker 1: we can't even turn it off when we're driving, right,
- 25:31Speaker 1: So how addicted do you have to be when you're
- 25:34Speaker 1: driving a car and you can't turn your phone off?
- 25:38Speaker 1: So we can't turn it off, and many times it
- 25:40Speaker 1: is impeding upon any kind of intimacy right in a relationship.
- 25:47Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing. It's the what message
- 25:50Speaker 1: is this sending to my spouse? And to the girl's
- 25:53Speaker 1: question last night, like how do I tell my husband? Really,
- 25:56Speaker 1: the question was it's not you know, turn off your
- 25:59Speaker 1: damn phone? It's how can I tell them this hurts
- 26:02Speaker 1: my feelings?
- 26:03Speaker 2: Yes?
- 26:03Speaker 1: How can I tell them? This makes me feel unimportant?
- 26:05Speaker 1: How can I tell them this makes me feel unloved?
- 26:08Speaker 1: How can I tell them this makes me feel like
- 26:10Speaker 1: you're prioritizing everything above me? Are you tired of me?
- 26:14Speaker 1: Are you? Are you sick of me? And my old hat?
- 26:16Speaker 1: Am I just now, you know, are you are you
- 26:19Speaker 1: looking for some new shiny penny, you know, do you
- 26:23Speaker 1: need something else to feel your brain right now? So
- 26:27Speaker 1: those are those are the questions we need to ask
- 26:30Speaker 1: ourselves just to take a minute and sit. When you're
- 26:33Speaker 1: sitting on your couch and you got your phone in
- 26:34Speaker 1: your hand at the end of the night, and your
- 26:36Speaker 1: spouse is sitting in the same room and you haven't
- 26:38Speaker 1: spoken with them, how could you better show this person
- 26:42Speaker 1: that they're important to you? What could you do in
- 26:45Speaker 1: that moment? And so it would start with putting down
- 26:47Speaker 1: the phone and maybe looking engaging them, look in the eye,
- 26:51Speaker 1: go touch them, sit by them, say hey, let's go outside,
- 26:54Speaker 1: you know when it's not eighteen degrees. Those are all
- 26:57Speaker 1: things we just have to be very very conscious of
- 26:59Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, but I love the way that you.
- 27:02Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it was I don't feel like
- 27:05Speaker 1: you're listening to me, and I just remember the tears
- 27:08Speaker 1: that came. It's like, I feel like you're you're so
- 27:10Speaker 1: easily interrupted. You know, when whether it's a show, the remote,
- 27:14Speaker 1: a kid walks up and starts talking, you know, everything
- 27:18Speaker 1: takes precedent over me. When I'm talking and I think,
- 27:22Speaker 1: you know, i'd literally that hurt. That hurt my heart, Like, man,
- 27:25Speaker 1: I love her and I wanted to know she's important.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Are you showing her that? Yeah, because I think I'm multitasking.
- 27:30Speaker 1: I think you know, I was listening, but I wasn't,
- 27:33Speaker 1: And and the the the message it was sending to
- 27:35Speaker 1: you when I wasn't looking you in the eye and
- 27:38Speaker 1: having the phone down was man, I've lost him. Yeah.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like too. Everything on the phone is
- 27:46Speaker 2: so fast. I mean we know this that everything is
- 27:49Speaker 2: just segmented and it's just quick, quick, quick, you know,
- 27:52Speaker 2: change of frame. And I think that's it's messing with
- 27:57Speaker 2: our attention spans, you know. So even when we you know,
- 28:01Speaker 2: do have a minute in the kitchen, does stop and
- 28:03Speaker 2: catch up, You almost feel like, yeah, when your brain
- 28:07Speaker 2: it has been recalibrated to quick, quick, quick. You got
- 28:11Speaker 2: to make this fast, you know, because everything else is
- 28:14Speaker 2: moving quickly. No, no, no, the point in life is to
- 28:18Speaker 2: slow down, you know, slow down and stop and like
- 28:23Speaker 2: enjoy your coffee together, or linger over a nice meal,
- 28:28Speaker 2: or you know, go sit outside and watch the sunset.
- 28:31Speaker 2: You know, it's I think the things that really bring
- 28:35Speaker 2: us fulfillment and meaning and purpose in life are the
- 28:40Speaker 2: slower things. But everything that we're drawn to on you know,
- 28:44Speaker 2: whether it be commercials, which you're not drawn to commercials,
- 28:48Speaker 2: you know you hate commercials, but commercials or fast set
- 28:52Speaker 2: it's on, you know, whatever movie you're watching, or videos
- 28:55Speaker 2: going quickly, that's where your your brain is being calibrated
- 29:00Speaker 2: to that instead of life is about taking things at
- 29:04Speaker 2: a slower pace. We weren't built to just go ninety
- 29:08Speaker 2: to nothing twenty four to seven. So we're burning out,
- 29:11Speaker 2: we're burning up, we're you know, you kind of look
- 29:15Speaker 2: up and you're like, wait, who am I And what
- 29:17Speaker 2: was I doing? What even matters to me? Because I
- 29:21Speaker 2: was just watching a baboon and a tiger in the
- 29:25Speaker 2: tree and what's going to happen with them on the
- 29:27Speaker 2: other side of the world.
- 29:28Speaker 1: Or you know, well, our brains weren't meant to take
- 29:32Speaker 1: in all that information all at once. We just we weren't.
- 29:35Speaker 1: And just think about growing up in a community, how
- 29:39Speaker 1: this affects the dating scene. Right, growing up in a
- 29:41Speaker 1: community where you knew people, and the number of people
- 29:44Speaker 1: you knew that was your dating pool, right, and now
- 29:47Speaker 1: we're hearing that these kids are there you know, they're
- 29:50Speaker 1: keeping their options open because there's this whole world of
- 29:53Speaker 1: possibilities out there in Foamo. You know, it's like wait, wait,
- 29:56Speaker 1: there could be somebody better. And so they just they
- 29:58Speaker 1: go out on a date and then they go somebody.
- 29:59Speaker 1: But because I'm waiting for the next one, I just
- 30:02Speaker 1: keep swiping right, because in their mind there's this global pool,
- 30:06Speaker 1: this global population to choose from. So they're waiting to
- 30:09Speaker 1: get married way, way, way later, you know, if they
- 30:12Speaker 1: get married at all. Right, yeah, and so it's even
- 30:14Speaker 1: affecting that. So, uh, that's scary, you know. For for
- 30:19Speaker 1: relationship health, I would challenge us all to set the
- 30:24Speaker 1: screen time, set the limit, and I know you can
- 30:26Speaker 1: override it, but start to start to decrease your screen time.
- 30:30Speaker 1: For relationship health, you can't. People come in and say,
- 30:33Speaker 1: you know, my marriage is falling apart or my relationship
- 30:36Speaker 1: is really struggling. Can you please help us? But we're
- 30:40Speaker 1: not gonna We're not going to change our habits on
- 30:42Speaker 1: our phone. It's like, no, that's not going to work.
- 30:44Speaker 1: It's like, hey, doc, can you help me, I'm falling
- 30:46Speaker 1: apart physically, but but don't tell me to cut out
- 30:49Speaker 1: my junk food. Consumption because I can't. It's like, yeah,
- 30:53Speaker 1: you can, and you need to for your health, and
- 30:56Speaker 1: so we all have to again, not a judgment, not
- 30:59Speaker 1: a condemnation. Hey, pay attention to how much attention you're
- 31:03Speaker 1: giving your spouse and it's going to make such a difference.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of do not disturb, Yeah, I do
- 31:11Speaker 2: feel like that is one. Really it's a I think
- 31:15Speaker 2: a good thing that you can do on your phone
- 31:19Speaker 2: if you are a little bit you know, distracted and
- 31:23Speaker 2: add or whatever, you know, squirrel all the time, if
- 31:27Speaker 2: you put on that do not disturb, it really is
- 31:30Speaker 2: helpful because you if you're working on something, it's you
- 31:33Speaker 2: don't get all the dings and bells and you know, craziness.
- 31:37Speaker 2: So let's all try to do a little do not.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Disturb, do not disturb. And speaking of do not disturb,
- 31:45Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to call it for this one, Okay, Yeah,
- 31:47Speaker 1: so let's all do it. Let's decrease our screen time
- 31:50Speaker 1: and let's show some attention to our number one.
- 31:53Speaker 2: And I'm like, I love that. That sounds good. Er
- 32:05Speaker 2: als