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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's KLi here for this Speaks Mojo Monday.
- 0:12Speaker 1: So I want to talk about anxiety today and an
- 0:16Speaker 1: approach that you could try when anxiety shows up for you.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Anxiety is one of those human responses to life that
- 0:23Speaker 1: as a whole we are really struggling with, and we
- 0:26Speaker 1: tend to treat it like a problem to solve or
- 0:30Speaker 1: something to eliminate. But the idea that we'll ever get
- 0:33Speaker 1: rid of anxiety is completely deluded. Really, and I've said
- 0:38Speaker 1: this before. The issue isn't the anxiety itself, and that
- 0:42Speaker 1: applies to what we might call normal anxiety and also
- 0:47Speaker 1: to neurotic anxiety. So neurosis isn't It's not a word
- 0:51Speaker 1: that we use much anymore. It used to be used
- 0:54Speaker 1: a lot in psychology. That we don't tend to use
- 0:58Speaker 1: neurosis or neurotic in our day language. But I actually
- 1:01Speaker 1: think it's useful because it differentiates a natural response to
- 1:05Speaker 1: life from a more entrenched or overwhelming one. And right now,
- 1:10Speaker 1: the word anxiety is just one word that we use,
- 1:13Speaker 1: whether it's a normal response or a possible pathological response.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And the psychologist Rollo may had had a very different
- 1:22Speaker 1: way of understanding anxiety so for him, anxiety wasn't something
- 1:27Speaker 1: to get rid of. He saw it as a natural
- 1:31Speaker 1: response to uncertainty or responsibility, and the fact that life
- 1:37Speaker 1: is never fully predictable. In other words, anxiety shows up
- 1:41Speaker 1: when something matters. So think about the time you or
- 1:46Speaker 1: somebody you know felt really anxious to whatever degree, even
- 1:51Speaker 1: if it was just slightly anxious. Was their uncertainty? I
- 1:56Speaker 1: would bet that there was. Was the future predictable almost never?
- 2:01Speaker 1: And was there some level of responsibility involved? There probably was.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Anxiety is it's the physical response paired with the worried thoughts,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and together they create this emotional storm. And how big
- 2:17Speaker 1: that storm becomes depends on a superpower that I want
- 2:21Speaker 1: to talk about today. Because the problem, as I said,
- 2:24Speaker 1: isn't the anxiety itself. The problem is what happens when
- 2:29Speaker 1: our attention gets stuck on it. The more uncomfortable we
- 2:33Speaker 1: feel with the anxiety and the thoughts, the more we ruminate,
- 2:37Speaker 1: and the more we ruminate, the more anxious we feel,
- 2:41Speaker 1: and then a vicious loop forms. And once we're in
- 2:45Speaker 1: that loop, we tend to stay there. And then what
- 2:48Speaker 1: happens is our instinct is to fight our way out
- 2:52Speaker 1: of that loop. So we can tell ourselves to calm down,
- 2:55Speaker 1: or maybe somebody else tells us to calm down, to
- 2:58Speaker 1: get control back, to think better. But the relief from
- 3:02Speaker 1: anxiety doesn't come from battling with it, especially with logic,
- 3:07Speaker 1: especially when you're in the midst of this emotional storm.
- 3:11Speaker 1: And if anything, that just strengthens the loop. The way
- 3:15Speaker 1: out of the loop is through our attention, using our attention.
- 3:19Speaker 1: So Rollo may talked about how anxiety narrows our awareness.
- 3:24Speaker 1: It pulls us away from the richness of the present moment,
- 3:29Speaker 1: and it really collapses our world into a single storyline
- 3:34Speaker 1: about what might happen. And when you're right in the
- 3:38Speaker 1: thick of that, there's a very little point trying to
- 3:42Speaker 1: change that storyline with your mind. That maybe comes later,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but there's a step before that where you need enough
- 3:50Speaker 1: capacity in your brain and you're in your mind to
- 3:54Speaker 1: even do that work. So attentional control gets us out
- 3:58Speaker 1: of the loop. Attention widens the situation. So when we
- 4:02Speaker 1: deliberately tune into what is actually happening right now, we
- 4:07Speaker 1: reconnect with life as it is, not our mind's predictions
- 4:13Speaker 1: of what life might be. And this moment, like you
- 4:17Speaker 1: think about it, this moment has so much in it,
- 4:20Speaker 1: so right now, see if you can turn your attention
- 4:24Speaker 1: to the sounds around you, the textures around you, the movement,
- 4:30Speaker 1: the temperature. And when we bring our attention onto our senses,
- 4:35Speaker 1: something very subtle happens. Anxiety doesn't disappear, but our mind
- 4:40Speaker 1: can't stay fully absorbed in this imagined future while we're
- 4:45Speaker 1: deeply connected to the present. So feeling the warmth of
- 4:50Speaker 1: the mug in your hands as you're sipping your coffee,
- 4:53Speaker 1: or counting your footsteps from one room to another, I
- 4:57Speaker 1: really find that so helpful. If I'm feeling a bit heightened,
- 5:02Speaker 1: noticing the weight of your body in the chair, these
- 5:06Speaker 1: aren't distractions there. It's more engagement in the present moment now.
- 5:12Speaker 1: I once had a client who was having a panic attack,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and what we did is we went outside and I
- 5:19Speaker 1: asked them to notice the distant car noises, and then
- 5:22Speaker 1: the birds and the trees. We went we walked and
- 5:25Speaker 1: touched a rock and felt the texture of the rock.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And then when we went back inside, I asked them
- 5:31Speaker 1: to describe a painting on the wall. And this emotional
- 5:35Speaker 1: storm that they were in started to settle enough to
- 5:40Speaker 1: then go on and then do some breath work or
- 5:43Speaker 1: even doing an activity. Our first instinct is often to
- 5:48Speaker 1: go to the breath or reassurance or talking things through,
- 5:53Speaker 1: and all of that, of course can be really helpful,
- 5:56Speaker 1: but first we need to work with attention. It's about
- 6:00Speaker 1: choosing to place our attention in the world rather than
- 6:04Speaker 1: letting anxiety pull it inwood and forward, because when it
- 6:09Speaker 1: pulls us inward and then forward, the loop titans and
- 6:13Speaker 1: we get stuck roll. I may spoke about courage, not
- 6:18Speaker 1: the absence of anxiety, but the willingness to stay present
- 6:23Speaker 1: and engaged even when anxiety is there, Like how hard
- 6:27Speaker 1: is that? But it is a skill that can be
- 6:30Speaker 1: really effective when you practice it. Very aligned with the
- 6:34Speaker 1: Japanese psychotherapy Marina therapy, which I talk a lot about.
- 6:38Speaker 1: And this is where practice does matter. You know, you
- 6:41Speaker 1: might always have the tendency to get caught up in
- 6:43Speaker 1: this anxious loop. So maybe the goal isn't to get
- 6:46Speaker 1: rid of the anxiety altogether or to try and control
- 6:49Speaker 1: it in that moment. Maybe it is to be able
- 6:52Speaker 1: to live fully with it, using your attention to make
- 6:56Speaker 1: sure that you don't get stuck. We know that anxiety
- 7:01Speaker 1: is like a wave. It goes up and up and
- 7:03Speaker 1: up and up. There's a peak and then it tailors off.
- 7:06Speaker 1: So what if we can still have the capacity to
- 7:10Speaker 1: live fully while we ride that wave and a change
- 7:14Speaker 1: happens by building new habits of attention moment by moment.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So practice attentional control when you're not feeling heightened or
- 7:24Speaker 1: not feeling anxious, so you're more equipped to draw on
- 7:27Speaker 1: it when anxiety shows up. So anxiety can disconnect you
- 7:32Speaker 1: from life. And I think I would have a guess
- 7:35Speaker 1: that most of you, either yourself or know somebody who
- 7:41Speaker 1: has been really disconnected from life because of the power
- 7:45Speaker 1: of anxiety. So by using your attention in an intentional way,
- 7:51Speaker 1: you reconnect with life. Anxiety doesn't lead the way, and
- 7:55Speaker 1: you start to feel more in control. So I hope
- 7:59Speaker 1: that is helpful for you. As I said, practice practice, practice,
- 8:04Speaker 1: even when you're not feeling anxious. That way, it strengthens
- 8:09Speaker 1: that attentional muscle so you can draw on it when
- 8:13Speaker 1: you need it. So thanks for joining me. I will
- 8:15Speaker 1: see you next Monday. Bye bye.