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Getting Off the Bench: Community, Charity, and Redemption · Off the Bench - London

• Off The Bench London (00:00.206) Hey, Cheers to another week. Another episode. Some flat beer. Flat beer. Yeah. We're being healthy Something like that. Yeah It's all the illusion So it is you have to have a drink while we're on podcast. That's true. Otherwise we get parched Yes, we can't talk and then that's that's kind of the whole thing But hey, the point is we're being healthy So we can be fit for our fights come up because that's like a month so today our episode with went live. Yeah. So now people have an insight on what's actually going on. You get the main event on the main card and that Monday on core show. I don't think on the main event. Well, no, an event. You're in. You're in the. You're in part one. Yeah, it's like. It's funny because like every time we do an episode now, I'm referencing too much WWE. So like you're day one of WrestleMania. But it's all I'm on day two of wrestling. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, main event. Got it. You get the main card. You get day one. Most people pay it to day one and then they get exhausted by day two. Well, hopefully not. But yeah, so if anyone can blast the whole thing, we'll see. We'll see. Good luck. Well, I mean, with that and. We were at Bershudo yesterday. Yes. How's your nose? It's good. I saw that you were a little bloody yesterday. Yeah. Don't tell my mom. Your mom was that other person. Do you get punched in the face? But how was sparring like? No, it was good. Like there was like obviously there was some parts like some harder rounds like. Off The Bench London (02:03.627) It's interesting going sparring against like completely random people because like I've never seen any of these people before. Mm-hmm. And like you just like it's weird because you just you're just standing there in between rounds and you just kind of like make eye contact with each other and just get like, yeah, yeah. And then like 30 seconds later, you're punching each other in the head. You're like, I have no idea what your experience like no contact. Obviously, you talk a little bit, but like it's It's interesting because you're like, OK, well, the first like little bit, you're just kind of feeling each other out and you're like being like. Yeah, but. But it was interesting because like the first couple of rounds I did ended up being harder and then later on everyone was slowing it down a little bit more and everything was a little bit more technical, which was good. So it was like it was a nice segue segue of like. getting both because like obviously you can't just go to sparring and just like wail on each other the entire time like that's stupid and no one learns anything and the whole point of sparring isn't just to go fight people it's to lose it's to work on stuff and lose try things figure it out yeah does it work what may work for one opponent may not work for another opponent exactly and like having that feeling of like you're fighting for your life in there isn't a good feeling in sparring It's It's true. Like you shouldn't be killing each other. at the same time, if you're leaving yourself exposed, you're like, yeah, no, if I'm if it's completely open, hit me because like that's how I'm going to learn for sure. For sure. I was talking to your opponent. I'm going to call him out. Hassan. Man, if you're listening, he you will be listening. Trust me, you'll be listening. Because you know what? I'm going to call him out. It's pretty simple. He said he was going to come on today's episode, call you out so that we had that little beef like that little. Yeah, it would have been great for the part. But some people just can't handle the spotlight. He's too busy. I think it's a busy guy. Busy. We're busy. There's always ways to make time for things. I'm calling you out. Yeah, we got a spot right here for you. Off The Bench London (04:34.196) So we can make things work. I'm just saying But like overall at the end of the day like, know as much as we're talking about like your opponent and so forth It is for charity. Well, exactly. Like that's the thing like it is That like that's what I'm enjoying about this Like yes, it you're getting it's a fight. Yes, but at the same time it's for a good cause And honestly, the community aspect of it is great. Like everybody, like even just going like meeting brand new people, you spar, end up sparring a little bit harder than you were thinking. And then bell rings. Everything's all good. No water under the bridge. is what it is. And like it's such a good community and everyone's like, like you just talk to each other after like, that was good round. Like, yeah, you got me there with that one. yeah, you got it. It's good. No, you're right. You're right. And there's wasn't there's nobody like. There's less anger than you'd think in a boxing gym. Yeah, like everyone because they have an outlet. It's a lot more controlled. Like obviously you develop goes people. Yes, but because people are training they they're more regulated and you're you're 100 % correct with that statement. The only thing I'll add is it's when you're new to a gym. You kind of have to like there's. There's an ego thing where some people feel like, yeah, I have to hit hard. have to like, yeah, make my presence known. And then once someone like checks you, then you can calm down. Yeah. Uh, and I think like for a lot of people in January, when they went to NPT, they're like, Oh, I got to make an impression. got it. I got to do X, Y, and Z. And next thing you know, you know, someone, the big dogs who have been doing it for a little bit, not saying like, you know, I'm talking about, I'll see this. Like, I'll see this. We'll, we'll punch somebody and be like, okay, I have a lot to learn. Off The Bench London (06:39.085) It's true. So all I'm gonna say but like it's a charity event. like the aggression won't be the same because at the end of the day We're all coming together for punch at MS. It's a huge. Yeah, it's a huge autoimmune disease that you know, there is no cure and We're putting ourselves in the ring to help somebody with funding whether it's like someone who just found out they have MS someone who's dealing with MS, the doctors who are trying to find ways to combat it to make sure that people have a full life in the end of the day. That's exactly it. Like we're fighting so people that can't fight or have been fighting for themselves, we can fight for them. And we're fighting to bring awareness. Yeah, exactly. So that's the one thing I love about all the charity events, whether it's, know, Jay and Juan Ocosta. or Brett Lussier with the fight to end homelessness, you're fighting to bring a cause. Awareness, and it's huge because now more people are going to what you get people knowing about boxing, knowing about the gyms, but they're knowing about what London Health Sciences is actually providing the actual community. Yeah, which is huge. Yeah, I honestly like. The growth like I obviously we talked about about this a lot with J. last week, but like the growth that that these events have in the city. Like fight to end was massive. Yes. Punch out is just growing exponentially. Like how much is it? How big is it that you have one event, one event the next year that's even bigger? The third year now you got to have two events. Because you had so much traction. that London there is a lot of people who want to try something new and yeah, London has a huge community of people that want to help. Yeah, like the moment there's a cause London steps up. And it's like they kind of it's that sentiment about London where we always make that joke is London's just a small town, big city. It is right. It's a weird thing. It's weird because if you're from London, we rate you from what high school like, Off The Bench London (09:04.834) Oh, yeah, I up in the East. What else can you go to? Oh, I to see C.A. Oh, you know, my buddy blah, blah. Yeah. You know, and that's how it goes. Or I want to see C.A. like, what did you graduate? Like, that's how like a lot of people in London like gauge. But like big cities, you don't have that opportunity, right? Because you're too big. Well, and a lot of people come from outside. Exactly. So, yeah, no, London is a deaf community that cares about each other and cares about, you know, growing and giving back. So, but hey, so I have Milky Way apparel. That's all we're trying to do. We're trying to give back. Yeah. So, and especially as we're talking about our boxing event on our website, on the podcast section, you can donate to either myself or Scott here. and, you know, put a little bit of your harder money into a good cause for, punch at MS as well as we'll have our own personalized gear that a portion of that will also go to, punch at MS as well. See, that's fantastic. So then my website actually will launch the day this episode launches. Oh, perfect. yeah, we got to I got to work on a sick design. don't know what I'm thinking yet. Talk to Zach. Oh, true. Maybe I might have to because he can he go up something up real real quick and I can work with magic and it's oh yeah, it's a long weekend. So it is a long weekend, isn't it? Yeah, we won't be reporting on Monday. Yeah, it's good Friday though. Monday is not a long weekend. I know. You're taking the whole thing, aren't you? Unfortunately. no, that's fine. No, fortunately, I have a dinner to go to on Monday. Not unfortunately, it is fortunate. You know, it's gonna be a good dinner. It's always good to hang out with So we will not report on Monday. Oh, no, I have to hang out with family. No, you like that? Yeah, you know, you're a big family guy. But we'll just have to figure out another day to do an episode. Whether we come here, do a quick episode about the Jays, they see it on. Yeah, what is happening? New MLB season. Yeah, like they just like decided all of sudden we have the best pitchers to kick off the year. You know what? They're just like playing like crazy. Like the problem with baseball, though, is like it is so long. Off The Bench London (11:30.184) Like you could literally start off 30 and and not make the playoffs. Look at the Jays last year. Like it started this whole season horrible. Yeah. And then finished in the World Series. Yeah, exactly. Came second place. Like that's huge. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's been a good day. Good start to the season. So I've heard. mean, actually, you know, since we may not do an episode on. Monday we could arrange to do an episode like a tour episode Take a day off of work and go catch a Jays game in Toronto April 8th, I believe is the date. It's a Wednesday We'll figure it out because the Dodgers are playing the James Why that day they play literally every day between now and like Hey, you gotta show love to my Dodgers. That's all I'm gonna say So I'm expecting them to treat Pete to treat Pete Triple crown Get the three Pete. Yeah, repeat triple crown. That's gonna be yeah Interesting. Yeah. Well, yeah Jays are different story. But yeah Lot of a lot of things down the pipe a lot of things, you know, we're talking about, you know, we have the punch out. We have this website is going to be relaunched and there's going to be tons of new stuff for women as well. So it's not just men stuff, not just unisex stuff. There's going to be like a woman's section. So that's all been taken care of now. So feel like I don't know if you've had a pretty like a pretty solid lineup on there for especially for like women's clothing and stuff. Mostly because you got stuff in your corner going, hey, I want this. You're like. OK, if I make it, I might as well just put it on the side. There's that. It's just well, here's the other thing is I understand the economy is hard right now. Not a lot of people can buy, you know, much gear, premium gear, you know, for a lot of people who don't work multiple jobs, it's tough. Yeah. So I'm always trying to realign the website. Off The Bench London (13:51.387) so people can afford it. So people don't have to always go thrifting. Don't get me wrong, thrifting is fun. People can make a killing off of thrifting and you know, sometimes fashion is timeless. That's true. But when you have a good cause, you have a good cause. And Punch Out MS is a great cause. Punch Out MS is a good cause. Another one is Hutton House is a great cause. Hutton House is a fantastic cause. You know what I mean? So shout out to Hutton House. I'll actually have some gear up for hunting house as well. That's actually gonna be dedicated to like if someone buys it they'll get That's that's that's actually awesome. You know what I mean? So the focus is always to give back to community That's what our podcast is is to get off the bench Mucky ways to get off the basically getting off the bench and giving back. Well exactly cuz like Off the bench doesn't necessarily just mean Sports doesn't mean get off the bench and go play sports. It means get off the bench, get off your couch, get off whatever and go out and do stuff. Yes. Whether it's volunteering, you know, going to the gym, hanging out with friends and being social. Yeah. You know, like get out and do things. Yes. Because it's have conversations very easy just to hibernate and watch TV all day and feel bad for yourself. Especially now. Well, now that it's getting nice out. Yes. I know we mentioned this before, but like it's this close to biking season. It's biking season. Biking season, golfing season. Like there's so many seasons. Yeah. But it's, it's almost there, but yeah, that's what off the bench is. It's, it's a podcast that's telling you to go and do something. And even if you're a gamer, put on a camera, you know, start streaming, build a community there. Like that is you doing something. You're engaging with the community, engaging with the world. that's off the bench. Maybe maybe I'll do a side channel like the e-sports sports, you know, Overwatch or marathon. For the record, I am terrible at video games. And maybe this will allow me to play a little bit more. OK, you know, I have too many side projects at Barton. I do this. do that. Yeah. Yeah. You should probably start another thing. Actually, funny. I was at trivia on Wednesday. Off The Bench London (16:16.119) And the trivia master was just like, yo, Malcolm, you sell podcasts. He's like, yeah, you and I should start one. I was like, great. I was like, great. You start one thing and now everyone wants to hop on and start something with you. And it's like. I'll consider it trying to cheat on me. I see how it is. No, I didn't say yes. There is nothing but, you know, overall. You know, we can we can keep talking we can go but I know Today we have like an objective because something serious happened on Friday So before we get into that, I'm Malcolm the milkman Scott the visionary hohn This is episode 29 29 29 I say I feel like I say that every time but 29. Yeah, we're episode 29 28 just dropped in 2029. Damn Okay All right Ladies and gentlemen, happened again. I can't believe. What I'm about to say. Tiger Woods got hit with another. I can't even say another DUI because he didn't get charged for a DUI the last time. So let me me rephrase this. Tiger Woods flipped his car again. Yeah, I was good at driving. He is very good at driving for 300 yards. After that garbage. OK. I was at work heading over to Taster room. I got to Taster room, you know, getting ready for my shift and I was picking up a shift. So was like, I was at the good moon and blah, blah. And then I look at the TV. Tiger Woods in a car accident. And I was just like. We were just talking about Tiger Woods. Yeah, about, you know, the. trophy golf league that him. Is that what it's called now? Trophy Golf? Yeah, Trophy Golf League. We were just talking about like how, you know, how it's really cool, how it's cool, how it's innovative, how he's putting his money towards something and, you know, give him back in a sense to the sport of golf. It's just dumb. I don't understand. Off The Bench London (18:39.591) I get it. Sometimes people have problems where they drink a little bit too much and they want to drive. It happens to the best of us. But. It's tough because like you're not only putting your life on the line, you're putting other people's life on the line when you drink and drive. It's it's unacceptable, especially when you have that much money, when you're like, OK, If I had a hundred million dollars, I don't know how much money he has probably something like that. But if I had ten million dollars, you can afford a driver. You can afford an Uber. You and I can afford an Uber. You I can afford keys, please. like you think because I could have a driver, a permanent driver that just drives you around. It's like like all these like Pro athletes like whether it's like all of the sports. They're all getting in these having these issues and It's just because they're being dumb They're being selfish. It is like someone put someone is investing all of their money into you and that is the most selfish thing you can do by Getting drunk getting behind the wheel of a car getting an accident. Yeah, it's unacceptable whether it's you're making millions of dollars or you're making $20 an hour doesn't matter like you once you drink and drive and you're in that state you are not considerate of the other person or other people especially celebrities I hold you to a certain standard because you're in the people are investing so much time money they're looking you up they're looking up how you were raised because they look it's one of they look up to you they want to be you exactly I guess that's saying you never want to meet your heroes is a true statement because what Tiger Woods just did. Yeah, it's just sad. Like there's been so many scandals like that, but like and it's all you see all these crazy athletes that are like world class athletes and they have these insane scandals that like cost company cost them hundreds of millions of dollars costs companies hundreds of millions of dollars and like Off The Bench London (21:05.978) they're the ones that have invested all of this into people like it's nuts. Here's the thing. Like everyone makes mistakes. Right? Don't get me wrong. You know, if you had just one glass of extra wine and it hits you at the end, I get it. Just but at the same time you're at that point, you're bigger than just you. Like it's. That's that's one thing that I find interesting with. OK, so I'm to bring change it change a little bit. OK, so bring it on, you know, college college sports. They brought in the all the NIL stuff. Yes, I hate it. I think it's interesting. Because. The NIL, I don't think any of its guaranteed. To a degree. To a degree. Yeah, to the group because it's all It's not a contract to play with a team. It's them Wanting to buy your name image like this like they're they're basically using you for marketing. Yes. So if you ruin your own image You're no longer marketable Okay, and if you're no longer marketable The checks stop coming in. Okay, so I think the NIL as toxic as it could be and like players jumping ship constantly. It has its bonuses. It has has its deficits, but it also has some bonuses and you can see what these kids look like when you give them a bunch of money. It gives you like a preview before they get their big paydays. OK, if that makes sense, 100 % makes total sense, makes total sense, because like if. If I hand this kid. million dollars and he's out there blowing all his money partying doing all this and that's taking away and then he's declining as an athlete but rising as a media star once he gets that next level no one's gonna no one's gonna want a part of that okay okay I feel like you have a point so I'm gonna pause you for a second Off The Bench London (23:29.901) I think we would have had a different Johnny Menzel if NIL was... Exactly. I think he would have matured faster because he would have made his mistakes in college before he made it in the NFL. You're making your mistakes on a slightly smaller scale. Yep. Instead of being one of the... Because think about how many NFL players there are. There's... Too many. But there's only 54 players on... 32 teams correct. That's not that many people compared to the number of people that play in college sports. Right and it called sports differentiates from D1 D2 D3. There's too many teams exactly, but if you can. It's like everybody makes mistakes when they're young, but it's how you learn and grow from them correct. But all of these kids are like. There once you hit that level. You can be one and done. Yeah. Okay, with NIL, I think. you were smart and have the right people for around you, it can actually propel your career in the next level. So if you have an NAL, you can hire that agent that can get you drafted. can hire that financial advisor that'll be able to, well, if you're getting this much money, we can buy this business, buy this business. when you're using it properly instead of just blowing it, you can build generational wealth. You know what? You get the NAL money. You can buy your mom or your dad at that house that they dream of because it's not your first paycheck in the NFL. Exactly. You know, I mean, you can set yourself up or buy your education. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I know a lot of them get scholarships, but they get scholarships to play, not to learn. So then, know, there's avenues. That's what NIL is supposed to be. It's not to buy that fancy car, not the Bugatti or the the Rolex or. Off The Bench London (25:34.015) You know the swing shoes or you know fund that school in Africa. But I think that like that's the the the switch that's going to happen though. Yes. Because you're going to get these players that are like no I'm going to going to college to make money to set up my future. Yes I would say that would that is going to be the case due to the fact that. With social media. Everyone sees everything. Yeah, all these scandals cuz they come out so fast because everybody sees everything like think about Obviously there was scan. There's there were scandals before social media hundred percent, but They weren't blown up to the same They were worse a portion. They were worse. No, they weren't blown up to the same proportion. There was less of like obviously the big ones like OJ When you said that I was just like, I'm like the big big ones. Yes. I think but those are Simpson is the reason why everyone loves a Bronco now. That's true. That photo is iconic. Yeah. But no, what I mean is like. Off The Bench London (26:54.579) There's just, it's just different. Yes. Like everything is on display now. So like if a football player or an athlete go or any athlete, they go clubbing. Everyone sees it back in the eighties, nineties, they could do and then get people to sign an NDA. Think about back in the day, like the, the bulls Rodman, he who had his crazy headlines. Yes, he did. But I guarantee it was probably a lot worse than those headlines. Yes, they were. Yep. But none of that came to light the way it would these days. No, because everyone has basically a device in their pocket that they can capture and get the next payday. Exactly. And everyone's just like, like the athletes. Not even paydays. Exactly. Just like the athletes. People are always looking for a payday, especially in society these days. It's true. I do also want to say that in today's world, people are less forgiving. Yeah. They're always looking for something to like attack. We as a society now, and I'm talking about as a whole society, we are becoming more more negative about everything. We can't always look for the positive in things. obviously we know what the state of the world is right now. There's a war going on in the world, know, there's down south and I hate talking politics down south, you know, there's all of that stuff. There's so much X, Y and Z that's going on that I don't really want to talk about, but it is what it is. But everyone just always in the negative aspect of everything and they have a hard time looking for the positive. the gas prices now 175, know, close to $2 a liter, like, it's hard. So I think well, especially with social media and the way algorithms and stuff work. Everyone focuses on the negative because it's that shock value. And then the way these algorithms work, if you look at it, you'll see more of it. So I think everyone needs to honestly focus on trying to build those positive algorithms like Off The Bench London (29:18.8) There's some pages and stuff that I follow that are like I yes, we know everything is crazy going on the world on in the world, but here are some really great news stories that are positive. And then you look through those and you're like, that's sweet. cool. They did that. I didn't know that was happening. But those are those things that are completely overshadowed by everything else that's going on in the world because everyone looks at the looks at the news and it's just terrible things. It's true. So you got to feel like everyone has to try. I think the the other thing and the kicker is like you're you're right with negative it's a shock values just like oh my god I can't believe a human being did that yeah it's like it's like that that value is just like oh like you know I'm not going over there because they're killing everybody it's like well if you pay attention to actually read the full story it's it was a certain thing it's not the whole picture yeah but then you just see more and more of it it's like it's that That's like takes you down that rabbit hole of negativity and then you start bringing that into your workplace, your relationships and X, Y and Z. That's one of those things like it just turns everyone people into negative people. Yeah, like, okay, here's another funny algorithm one for you. Even sorry Spotify. Sometimes your algorithm. It's bad is the worst. It's bad. There's a reason why I went back to vinyl. Yeah, no, but like So if you have like your liked songs on shuffle, sometimes I honestly, I Spotify shuffle sometimes not good. It's normal. It'll be like. every time you hit shuffle, we're playing the same five songs and then and then it goes, you keep listening to these five songs. I think we should play them more and then it just slowly narrows it down and down and down until you just get you just it's always one song and you're just like. Off The Bench London (31:20.544) I skipped this song every single time. You just keep putting it on and it's like, but you like this song because you keep putting it on. Yeah. Yeah. That's how a lot of the algorithms are actually working now. Yeah. Cause it's, they see that your, your eyes are on it. watch your, watch your stuff, pay more attention to our stuff and then you'll see more of our stuff. So I'm saying, so I'm the other thing I'll say is, You're 100 % right with the algorithm until they get hit, right? I look at in 2021 in 2020 there was this. genre of influencers that were out there. Yep. I don't want to say their name because I don't want to get hit in the algorithm with them. But you if you're a woman, you know who I'm talking about. If you're a man, all I'm going to say is you're not an alpha man. You're not an alpha man. Like, stop. Stop. You're an alpha dog. There's a lot more to being a human, being a man, being a woman, being whatever, then categorizing yourself to like alpha and warrior and king and emperor and blah, blah. You don't have to be a dictator in life to be a good person. To be successful in life, you don't have to be those things. There's ways to do it, but it's also having the motivation to drive and having some self respect. whether it's for you or somebody else. Exactly. But, and going back to what we're talking about algorithms, they're slowly switching because they were getting sued. Yeah, exactly. It transitioned out. Right. So, so my wife actually recently told me about there's this new documentary that came out of Manosphere. And it's talking about those influences about alphaness. Oh, yeah. Is that good? Off The Bench London (33:26.528) I haven't watched it yet. But I said it's funny because I like a good documentary. There is the woman version of that alpha world. Right. That no one talks about, but they always focus on the man version because it was very successful during 2020 and 2021. they're both successful. You know what I mean? But their careers are kind of dead in a sense. That's why they're going into MMA because you're trying to get in an audience because they can't influence the same way they used to. Yeah. Right. They probably still have their Patreon or what I mean, fans. I'm sure they're getting all like the shadow banning. Yeah. Whatever. But like that mentality is switching, which also companies need to do better with their algorithms to like control what people are listening to and allow people to listen to the right things. But also that's problem thinking is like you're only seeing what your what is on your phone when you're scrolling through. like sometimes like if you don't know it's there, you'll just never find it. And then it just dumps you down those rabbit holes like we've all been down a YouTube rabbit rabbit hole. I do it all the time. Yeah. And then you're just like it's three o'clock in the morning. And why am I learning about I don't know sewing? Like why am I watching someone build a mud hut at four o'clock in the morning? The amount of YouTube videos that I go down the whole with like from gaming to technology to yeah to like finances to like I mean you learn a lot of cool stuff but like man from cooking like Uncle Roger is one of my favorite like he's so favorite comedian slash reviewer. Honestly if you've never watched Uncle Roger You will understand and I'm gonna say this we do not like Jamie Oliver. That's all I'm gonna say For you But It's funny though that you mentioned that cuz Jamie Oliver was introduced to me in in high school actually Not not the actual person. Yeah. Yeah, like seeing who he is. I cuz he had a series where he would like Off The Bench London (35:52.56) go into school. Yes, that's how he got big. Yeah. Yeah. And he would like help them fix their lunch programs and stuff like that isn't a great thing. Yes. So like, would never say, no, he's not a good he's not a good person. He definitely changed the lives of a lot of people. Yes, he did that. But the problem is, is now he he's gotten so big that he's making recipes and You know what? I'm going to say this as late as I can. He's British thing up cultural dishes. What the British used to go in on a lot, colonize a lot of places. Oh, he's doing that with like there. There's a reason why I say watch Uncle Rogers if you haven't. Trust me, he's a great comedian. If you have a chance to go to his show, I would love if he came to Canada because I'd definitely go check him out. He'd probably go to Vancouver, but. You know, or Toronto, but yeah, you know what I mean? But honestly, like for you. But back to what we're talking about, like with the scandals, that's, know, as we're talking like the algorithms and people with negatives, more people are going to go down that path. And then that's how these things happen. These scandals, these. You know, we always laugh about Michael Jordan and how he retired. And I still don't think he retired. The joke is, the rumor is, is that he was actually banned for gambling. Yeah, he was suspended for a year or something and then he gambling. Right. Played it off. Which is they cared about his image that much that if that is true, smart move. It's true. Very smart move because you don't ruin the image of the NBA and you don't ruin the image of Jordan because Jordan was bringing so much money to the NBA. was their world superstar. And it only happened once. And now maybe that's why he retired. I don't know. Who knows? But then you have Tiger Woods who... He's lighting it up with a NASCAR now? Yes. Yeah. Crazy. Who would thought? Finding one way... LeBron is still playing. He has to find ways to be relevant again. You know what I mean? Off The Bench London (38:15.033) Jordan's like I'm getting another ring or a cup or whatever. I'm doing something that LeBron can't do. Give me championships. Michael Jordan, winner. Yeah, seriously. He needs proof of that. It's true. It's true. The other thing is there's the Brett Favre situation where he ruined his name. KD with social media having the burner accounts. Yeah. Walk even Kyrie. Yes. Yes. Here's an even bigger one is Kanye West. Oh, well, yeah, you know the different personality. He just released an album last week and He has the Kanye and the yay and it's like the yay versions of version that we hate Because we all wish for the old Kanye. So he's like he put both of them on there. So it like Is it like split personalities is the reason why he went crazy on yay? And that's the reason why he went in that aspect, but it's like you maybe I'm out of touch, but I have no idea what you're talking about. We'll convene after. another great example will be Diddy. OK, yeah. Or 50 Cent. Yeah, game of 50 cents hilarious. And yeah, yeah, he's very funny. He is is. But with all these different allegations. It's negativity, but then you see the positive people doing something good with like 50 cent during the documentary. He's making money off of it for doing for exposing negative people. Yeah, but well, that's the thing like they're bringing all of this negativity to make a profit to make a profit because people it gets eyes on it. But if someone like people make all of these amazing documentaries like I well shut out to Hidenhouse. I the patch yes they have their doctor docu series. Yep I got to see their. Their pre-screening before the premiere the premiere and it was it's so good. I they they did such a good job with it. Good for them. Off The Bench London (40:33.898) But like things like that, if more people watch and pay attention to those things, like go out and like see all of the good things that people are doing instead of focusing on like, I don't know, the fights at Masonville Mall or whatever. Relevant. Yeah. You see those things flying out, like stuff like that happening. But then you don't see all the like the good things people are doing. There's so much good things that people are doing. Whether it's like, know, you're checking us and I appreciate everyone who does watch our podcasts. Our numbers are going up. You know, thanks for those people who are looking at the positive things that we're trying to do. You know, there's so many other great podcasts out there in London, Ontario. So I hate talking about all those negative things is like it just keeps. I feel like even us like you start you go down the rabbit hole. Yeah, just did it. I know it's just easy. It's, yeah. But hey, then you have people like, well, I'll bring up another one. LeBron James. He has people that you can hate on them all you want for whatever. like he jumped into the NBA out of high school. Yep. I he's been with the same person the entire time. Yep. No cheating scandals. Correct. Kids. Yep. same same wife. Yep. He has gone in gone into where he grew up and built a bunch of schools. Yep. I forget what the school is called. It's like a I can or something. I believe it's the I can I can schools. I believe you're right with them like that. like he does all that and check it later. Yeah, but he's doing all these great things. But then everyone's like, man, he lost a couple championship games. But like Off The Bench London (42:34.8) He's lost six championships. That's what everyone cares about. they get it like, how many schools did you build? You know what I mean? Like it's true. It's it's things like that that need to be more like talked about more. You're not wrong. You're not wrong with that. It's very easy to go down the rabbit hole and focus on the negative aspect. And as society, we do it, whether it's you're in a relationship, you find the negatives and you don't focus on the things that are happening. In the NBA, we have something seriously amazing going on right now. LeBron is 42 years old, 41, 42 years old. He's old, he's in his 40s and he's still relevant. It reminds me of when Vince Carter was still playing and he was still an asset because he was mentoring, but LeBron's doing something different. He's breaking records and he's still relevant and he can still do it. But he's setting the standard. He's showing people what they can do if you take care of your body, if you take care of your body, if you don't, if you stay out of like, do any stupid things. then you're fine. It's true. There's a of caper. Go ahead. Look at how much Lucas changed since he went to one of the Lakers. Lucas has a lot of negativity going on in his world right now. But he does. He just goes his bed. But but he has he's he's changed. his persona. Yes, because well, and in Dallas, at one point, he started everyone was like, it's fat, Luca. He's like slowing down getting lazy, all this and then he goes on onto a team with someone that is a bigger like he may not be LeBron may not be better than Luca right now. But he can still look at like, he's still someone that Luca will look up to. If he says something, he'll listen. Correct. Because he has that pull. All right. For a second. a player coach. It's funny. It's funny that you say that because I look at LeBron James. I hate to say it, LeBron James is the greatest basketball player to ever play the game. I can't believe I just said that. It is what it is. You can heart me in the comments all you want. It is what it is. If you look at what he came into the league, he didn't have a role model. To guide him while in the league. Off The Bench London (45:01.849) He messaged MJ, Kobe, but he didn't have a teammate to guide him to the next level. Which makes it even more amazing that he's able to do that to done all of this and been clean the whole time. Exactly. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like it. We all harpoon for the decision to go to Miami. I view that as he went to college. Like you left Cleveland to go to college and then he came back to Cleveland and gave them a championship. Yeah, like you went to everyone else goes to college and wins the NCAA tournament man and Bob. honestly, like that's what they they really needed that though, because like him leaving meant Cleveland went down, which meant they could. get some good players and then he can come back and finish the job. Finish the job. Yeah. So like I look at that. look at, you know, other there's LeBron in that aspect, you know, hockey, you know, there's a one of my favorite players and in NHL right now is Ovechkin. Yeah. Ovechkin is I'm a Kyle Reeves fans fan. He's a grinder through and through. But like I look at Ovechkin and What he means to hockey for me is what a lot of people that used to watch Wayne Gretzky or this generation's Connor Bernard or. Connor McDavid. Connor McDavid. Yeah. You know, or what? I wish his career was a little bit better. Sidney Crosby. But injuries played a huge part. Sidney Crosby's had a fantastic career. It could have. has he has some injuries that he like he could have been. That's what I mean. Like he could have been like even better than what he is. But like I look at. But I view like Ovechkin and Crosby, they came into the exact same time and it's just it's those two. is kind of a cool battle. It's true. Or like, especially because in hockey, it's always kind of been Canada versus Russia. That's true. It's well, US is catching up. Well, yeah, quickly. And unfortunately, we have to say rest in peace to the Goodwill brothers because we would have had that. But someone had to get Off The Bench London (47:15.181) drunk behind a car and then we go down a negative path again. see that's the problem. So as you can see, we're drinking ginger ale right now. Yeah. So if you have a drinking problem, please, you know, reach out to your family. Reach out to like an AA service. Just talk to somebody. That's all I'm going to say on that. Yeah, but but they. Uh, honestly, the real reason I really wanted to... not that we drink a lot, but it was one of those I was just like, I just want to, for one, cut it out for the boxing and everything. like, but I mean, that's just an excuse. I just wanted to prove it to myself that like have that discipline. Because you don't realize how often like, there's always some sort of an event because you're like, just stop. Like, but then it's someone's birthday. And then it's a Christmas party and then it's this or a festival or yeah, you can get down a very dark day path. And you're right. And it sucks because we're bartenders. Yeah. You know, mean, everyone, it is honestly the way the world is going now because we've mentioned this before, but like there's a more mocktails and stuff. I don't. I know you don't believe in mocktails. I don't believe in mocktails because I don't believe you should be charging so much for a mocktail. When it's just juice. Crocted juice. Yeah, but at the same time, I know I get it. It is what it is, you know, I mean, but then you can't. there are some some really cool like, for sure. I know gronies. Yeah, you know, no alcohol. Like there's juniper tonics. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of great things out there, but. Off The Bench London (49:15.113) I think the craft beer non-alcoholic craft beer is probably like on point. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But the non-alcoholic wine is not on point. It's horrible. juice? The horrible grape juice. It's horrible. So I'm going say a steak classy IPA was one of my favorite IPAs. Non-alcoholic. Cheers to being healthy. Off The Bench London (49:52.748) Awesome. Good drill. Yeah. But. All right. OK, but when it comes to when we were talking about all these scandals, I realize Tiger Woods just got in and is the latest one. Yeah, but I there's been some really good redemption arcs of people getting in, like having these scandals and then moving past it. I have a great one in mind, but go ahead. I will like Tiger Woods what happened how many years ago that happened now like 15 years ago. There's a while ago. Five years ago was it. No it was was longer ago than that. you talking about the one where his wife caught him. Yeah. Oh OK. That was a little bit longer. That was 15. No that was nine years ago. Yeah. Yeah. That was a while ago. That was about nine years ago like he. had all that and they slowly came back and then was like then won the Masters and won the Masters and it was his big redemption arc and like how he like but then he did it again. Yeah, well then he did it again. Yeah, like this is his third one. True, but the point is sorry. I'm going down that rabbit hole. The point is kids if you fuck up one time you can still redeem yourself. You're not a lost cop. It's true. It's what I'm is what I'm getting at. You are 100 think right. But that's what I mean. How it's good that NIL like these kids are experiencing this when they're younger because they can fuck up and redeem themselves. And it's not the end. It's true. Like if you fuck up, yes, you're going to be you're going to set yourself back a whole bunch. But. It's not the end and you can still have a career, you can still move forward. Correct. Maybe your draft stock will drop, but sometimes that can be a good thing. Sometimes I can land you on the right team. Yes. Yes, because you see a lot of these players that are like they're always trying to like I want to be the number one pick like. As much as I'd love to be the number one pick, I would be loved to be the number one player, but not the number one pick same. I'd rather be drafted in the second round than the first round, because you're like I would rather go to the right team. Off The Bench London (52:14.458) the right team because well, you see it so much how the right coaches make players the right right people. Well, like look at what happened with the Seattle. He was in he got that that number one draft pick. He was in. In the on the Jets, that was a train wreck. Yes, it was. Then he got bounced around the league a little bit until he found the right fit in Minnesota. which was a great fit. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. And then Minnesota was like, you know what? We respect you. We respect what you did. We're moving in a different direction. go find the right situation for you. He goes and finds the Seahawks and there he is. But that like that there's those redemption arcs like obviously the scandals that drop them. Drop them through the the draft rankings can change that as well but like. People have an issue and they get shifted to another team or like Deshaun Watson you get. a really good contract and then shenanigans happen. But okay, when we're talking about redemption, I'll say this. There is one person that I hope does make the Hall of Fame and the NFL. Even though he had one of the biggest scandals ever. Michael Vick, I was going to mention that. Before the dog allegation and he's it's always gonna Live with them. I have a dog. You've had a dog. Yeah, but we get Gambling as well. It's a huge thing Animal abuse is another thing put them together. You have the Michael Vicks situation Off The Bench London (54:08.515) He will never get past that because at the end of the day, I'm going to look at Michael Vick and being like, thank God it wasn't my dog because I might have to John wick your ass. But but moving past that and look what he did after he did his time in jail because he did go to jail. Yeah. And then Andy Reed came to jail and visited Michael Vick and chatted with him. He's like, have you learned your lesson? Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I just. You know what? At this point, I want someone to take a chance on me so I can at least try to make it back to everybody. And now he came back, played for the Eagles. Then he played for Pittsburgh and he played for like a few other teams. Play for the Jets. I forgot about that. Yeah, he played for the Jets. He's gone through his retributions and now he's a big advocate. Now he's an advocate for animal abuse and all that. And he got into that whole situation because he thought he was larger than life. Exactly. Right. And he had the wrong people in a circle. So people influenced them in a very negative aspect, making them your your Michael Vick. You were Mr. Madden on the cover of I want to say he was on the cover of three or four. But don't go back. Don't quote me on that. And he was Mr. Atlanta. Ever he was a chico you play him in Madden. You just run the ball with him and like yeah. Yeah, exactly. Everyone hates you now. He's the coach in college Educating the younger youth on how to get into the league He is reminding me of what Deon Sanders is but Deon Sanders is all about me And this is what I could do for you were Michael Vicks just like this is what you should do for you exactly Yeah, like that's an amazing redemption arc And I hope the NFL looks at that past his career and be like, we're gonna induct you to the Hall of Fame because the impact and the culture that you were provided. Yes, people make mistakes. You can overcome them. Yeah. I like honestly, yeah, it's things like that. But like, like, yes, obviously, every like he did. Off The Bench London (56:31.762) He served his time. This is why the laws are the laws. It's not a forever. It's not a life punishment. is people always going to look at them, but it's what you do past it. Yeah, right. It's not what you did. It's what you're doing. Yes. And he's doing a lot of good things. But that's those are the influences that these kids need. They don't need these. Like people flying around. doing all these crazy flashy things like getting into those lifestyles. True. I do think it's interesting though that with the NIL a lot of these kids will opt to not go into the draft to stay in college an extra year. It's true. It's smart. Because especially if like if you're making enough off of off of this right now. and you're not ready for the next level at this second because it used to be people would rush into the Russian as fast as possible. You're getting a lot more older guys coming in. Nope. Okay. I'm going to fix that. The reason why you're getting the older guys is because they couldn't get the opportunity because they went to the big names. went to Alabama. They went to LSU. They went to Ohio. They went to Michigan thinking, you know, I'm good enough. And then they weren't getting playing time. Yeah. So then they transferred out and won't go to a team that actually give them an opportunity. And then that's why we're, that's why I say, I think we're seeing a lot of older great players is because because of NIL they are getting an opportunity. Yeah, no, it honestly it makes a lot of sense. Like in that aspect, I you're not seeing as many of the the guys that just go to one school. Don't transfer ever, which in that aspect is kind of not great. True. When people bounce around schools every every year, every other year. True. Off The Bench London (58:44.476) But there's been a lot of great players that... They've started at one school, wasn't the best situation for them. They transferred to a different school. Now they're the starter. Maybe they're a little bit older. Now they're the starter at a totally different school, and then they just light it up. But with the NIL, that gives the players more of an incentive. So like, if I'm seeing you, I'm seeing you. I'm realizing that you're really good. You're definitely better than what we have. But you're not getting the playing time that you want. I can offer you a little bit. You come over here, you get your playing time, then you can go somewhere else. Exactly. payday. Here's another thing is like we're talking about all these allegations. We're talking from, you know, golf, NFL. Hockey has a ton. yeah, that's true. Hockey. soccer you barely hear the one you never hear is MLB. That's because they're too busy. They games all the time. Like I'm now. I I talk about all these allegations. I can't think of an allegation. And you know what? We have a guest that's in the background. Rob, do you know of any allegations in the MLB that you can think of other than Derek Jeter? Now I'm thinking Tony. What did Bauer do? Off The Bench London (01:00:27.29) Yeah. Off The Bench London (01:00:33.85) But like there hasn't been any heavy allegation that's been legit. Like this person did something like the promises talk of woods, right? There's nothing at that level for the MLB. OK, but this is why. Baseball has 182 82 games, hundred and how many 182 under 82? Yeah, 182 games. Yeah, you're so busy. It's true. It's true in football. You have 17 games 20 if you're lucky. Yes. So 20 weeks versus 10 months of the year and in those months that you're not playing baseball, you're training. You're getting stronger for the next season or the only time you can actually weight lift or they have the world baseball classic or whatever. they're just busy. So the solution is to make these athletes busier. Yeah. All right, ML or MBA, you're getting more games. Yeah. Adam is so double it. Listen to this. No cut down on your allegations. Seriously, just don't give people free time. It's hey, that's what I'm saying. Like we don't see us doing stupid things. We don't have time. We don't have time to do stupid things. working. Like same with our same with our our our sponsor. You know, Pest case scenario. He's always on the job. He's always busy. He's always on his phone. There's always an opportunity for someone to call him because you never know when a pest may get in. Yeah. When you're when you're busy, you can't do stupid things, right? So it's like when people see it's the off season when they get bored, they start partying. They start doing dumb things, buying all these cars like, hey, here's one. John Jones. He's been in and out of the news. Yep. He's had plenty of issues. But it's because like when you make a ton of money all at once and then it's like, all right, cool. Now we're chilling. I'm going take a year off and chill. Exactly. That's when they started to like Conor Conor McGregor. He's done so many dumb things. It's because he has too much money and too much free time on his hands. But that's what I'm saying. So the solution is no free time. No. Off The Bench London (01:02:58.608) And fill your schedule explains why so many parents put their kids through camps, put them through different sports teams because you give them free time. They get they come up with some foolishness. Yeah, exactly. Don't give them time for shenanigans. Fair enough. Plus like that, it's it's a discipline thing. It is it is like when you have like a. Remember when? COVID first happened and everyone we all had to go sit around at home. Like I did because I was at the restaurant at the time. Yep. And that industry at all got shut down. You're just like you're literally just sitting there and you're like, oh, what day is it? I'm like, oh, you know, it's like you're retired. Yeah. You know, like you're just bored and you just end up doing weird things. It's true. Because like you try, you start off trying to be disciplined, but then it falls off and falls off because you don't have anything to keep you disciplined. True. Because when you don't have any schedule. You start doing weird stuff and then scandals happen. What scandals do you have in 2020? I'm kidding. kidding. I don't Don't Google me. Don't Google me. Or do Google us and find our donation pages and donate to MS. Yes, that's a fun one. I like that. Keep it positive. Always positive. Yeah, damn. Okay. I'm now I'm like we're going down the rabbit hole. Yeah, you're just thinking about which sports have the least. Yeah, it's it is literally about the time because I'm looking at even Premier League like in soccer or football. Yeah, thank you for the accent. It's just like they don't have time to really get into anything because because they're always training. They're always training. They're always traveling. There's always one thing after another. If you're not playing for your regular club, then you're playing for your country. If you're not playing for a country, then you know you're trading because you might get loaned out or damn. Yeah, so it's it's a North American sports. I have too much free time and the government just wants their tax money. Spend the money. Give it back to us. True. But they have to fill your calendar and you won't have any issues. Well, you know what? Find some good people. Do some good things. Fill your calendar with doing positive shit. Off The Bench London (01:05:25.715) Well, saying that if our guests just, you know, mark on the calendar, two dates, May 3rd and May 9th, you'll see some athletes that are actually trying to give back to the community. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Like, you know, punch it. MS is literally around the corner and you can find people who are actually trying to give back to the community. Yeah. I always, I think. It's always good to have some aspect of volunteering charity work, you're doing something positive for the community in your life. Like, also, that helps keep you regulated. Yes, keeps you grounded, keeps you involved. So true. So true. But anything any other hot takes you got? I think that may be it for today. Don't know anything else any other crazy things you got going on. I'm not looking in there. Oh Duke showed it to Duke for losing They buy that busted so many brackets man my bracket was shot from the beginning because I had a few I some of those early games. I lost those ones and then There's like March Madness is so up in the air. Well, you're talking about March Madness. I'm talking about fantasy basketball because I'm in the final forgot about that. The number eight seed is now in the finals. Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna remind you to make sure you set everything. Well, everything's set for this week. I'll check tonight and see where I'm at. But yeah, from knocking out the first place team. Look at you being in the finals for a league. It's not the first time I as that I've been in a league with you. Fair, fair, fair. Yeah. No coming out because I, know. fantasy basketball is one of those things. It's like so weird. It's honestly, it's a lot of work. It's hard. Well, okay. This one was weird because we had the different settings like the lock in it in. love it. I do love it, but I just wish I could have done the draft or we could have known what the step how that worked beforehand. Yes. Yeah. Well now we know for next year. Yeah, but I mean with basketball, it's just like regular basketball. It's who is healthy. Off The Bench London (01:07:44.235) at the end of the year. Yes. Just like, just like football. Yeah. Like it's a long season, but like who's who do you have healthy at the end of the year? It's true. Cause you lose some players like you may go in as the eight seed, but all of your best guys got injured earlier on and now they're back. So now they're back and your team's good again. Yes. What's up? Off The Bench London (01:08:14.502) Man, slam ball. Oh my God. That's a blast from the past. That's that's just aged. All of them. All was great. That was slam ball needs to come back. Slam ball needs to come back. Arena football needs to be televised again. But yes, slam ball was we did. But like, that's what happens when you get older. You can't go on a trampoline the same way. That's true. I'm scared of trampolines now. Right. I used to do so many things on trampolines. I like. We don't fearless. We don't now the same. Yeah, no, it's not the same at all. So but yeah, no slam ball spike TV. That's great. The good old days. Y'all younger generation won't even know what we're talking about. But it was great. Yeah, it was fantastic. We had we had some great. We had great TV back in the day. But I think case so back to go ahead. So the you said you mentioned arena football. But I think it's cool that they have the UFL. Yes, the spring league that's starting. It should start. It should have started. Yeah, I think it's just starting now. But they do a lot of cool stuff with that, because it's neat that it's because it's connected to the NFL. They have a few they'll they change up some rules and then they like it's a league that the NFL will actually pay attention to. Yeah, like, this rule worked. Yes, like. The kickoff, like the kickoff, the kickoff came from UFO. Exactly. So they can they can kind of field test rules or different like different styles and like see if it works. If it works, it works. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So it's like that's a great way of them being able to improve the game. Sure. Another one is April 29th. I'm kind of tempted to buy tickets. see the inauguration preseason game of Toronto tempo. That would be cool, right? Because seeing how the WNBA is expanding, I'm looking forward to when the NBA expands. I think what day of week is that? I it's a Friday. It's Friday? No, no, because May 3rd is a Sunday. Off The Bench London (01:10:32.682) It's like a Tuesday or something. April 29th. April 29th. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Trying to backtrack. Yeah. April 29th is the preseason game for the Toronto tempo because we just got word from the NBA that the the board of governors approved the expansion. That's so sick. Seattle and Vegas. Man, Seattle and Vegas are getting so much right now. Like what is going on like Seattle Kraken? They just got the Kraken. Yep. They're getting a WNBA team. Yep. They got a lacrosse Okay, lacrosse team. They're talking about bringing back supersonics. Yep, they are. They just got a Super Bowl. Yep. Something about the Mariners. They're a team. And in Vegas, they just fired their coach, their governor. traded away a few other players and now they're getting a basketball team. They have one of the most dominant women in the WNBA. Yeah. Tom Brady is still part owner of the Raiders. Yeah, that that's until he until he that and plays for the Raiders. But that's the Yeah, I he was talking about stuff like that. I wonder who he would even play for. He would play for the Raiders. You think you can play for the Raiders? Yeah, because you can be grooming the quarterback. yeah. You be grooming the quarterback so that you can become an owner again. I'd like the standard, but I'm going to come in. I'm going to be imagine Tom Brady comes in and he's just like, I'll be your backup. It's Tom Brady. He can't be a backup. That's true. There's certain things that are like, I'll be watch me do it. Yeah, do what I do. True. True. But I mean, like that, those are those things that like I that's what Off The Bench London (01:12:37.616) you would think would be really attractive for a quarterback to want to go there because you're like, hey, man, the owners is the greatest quarterback with no allegations that kept clean except for like cheating allegations within. Yeah. But at the same time, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Yeah. If you're not trying to go in those gray zones, then yeah, I guess. Yeah. Those weren't anything like, mean, like with zero off field incidents. Thank you. Except for his wife. It's funny how this episode is basically called thank you for episode 29 the allegation. Yeah. All right. The allegation. Yeah. Yeah. But at least we have none. That's all that matters. Exactly. So, yeah, on that note, I'm I don't got anything else. All right. Let's wrap her up. Well, that's another week. Thanks for watching. Episode 29 in the books. Yeah. Yo. Off The Bench London (01:13:46.215) as I get up like