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[23/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 21 (Jul 2022) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_00: You are live.
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  SPEAKER_01: What chapter are
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  SPEAKER_00: we on?
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  21.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that was 18.
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  SPEAKER_01: 19.
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  SPEAKER_01: I
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  SPEAKER_01: didn't think I'd done that yet, 20 minutes, but I'll put this away.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love when a page disappears.
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  One over three, that's one of the missing ones.
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  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: I swear there's something that lives among my texts and shuffles pages when I'm not looking.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's not a cat.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a text shuffler.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rinpoche had one too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Notice, you can explain anything to yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any which way you like.
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  SPEAKER_01: And no way that you explain it is more real than any other.
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  SPEAKER_00: So pick a fun explanation rather than a sad one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Since you could choose rather than go with your own damn automaticity of karmic habit patterns.
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  SPEAKER_01: Try something different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kajinwari Lama Namla Solva Dev.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sakya Lama Namla Solva Dev.
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  SPEAKER_01: Drukchen Lama Namla Solva Dev.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I am told that we are on Chapter 21.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're getting towards the end of this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Time to decide what to do after this because I want to keep going
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  SPEAKER_01: with one advanced Dzogchen text,
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  SPEAKER_01: teaching text, for those of you who may benefit from it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not all of you will.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to be what floats the boat for each one of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for some of you, it might be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hence, it's out there freely given, no strings attached.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dzogchen
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  SPEAKER_01: is about a man's own true nature, a human's own true nature.
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  SPEAKER_00: Human in the broad sense of the word,
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  SPEAKER_01: meaning not specifically homo sapien,
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  SPEAKER_01: but any entity that communicates abstract with language.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's your own nature that Zogchen is all about, is pointing out to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Beyond the limits you habitually impose on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not up to me to keep a man's own nature secret from him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Somewhere in here is glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You would do me the favor.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're in a case.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not in this other bag.
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  SPEAKER_01: Feel if there's a case in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, there is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then that's probably where they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are days when I can read without them and days when I can't.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you never know until you try.
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  SPEAKER_01: Still have to hold it far away to see it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you need stronger glasses soon.
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  SPEAKER_01: Emma, oh, once again, beloved children, listen to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Regard this corporeal body like the reflection of the moon in water.
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  SPEAKER_01: Perceive all vocal expressions as an echo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dissolve the multitude of your mental concepts in the purity of their own nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is how you get free will, in case you like most.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't really have much of it yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you are prey to your own repeating patterns again and again,
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  SPEAKER_01: doing the same thing that didn't work last time and expecting a new outcome,
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  SPEAKER_01: which never happens,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you are caught in that, you are not experiencing free will.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are Completely in your own patterns,
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  SPEAKER_01: repeating them again and again,
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  SPEAKER_01: circling through samsara, god realm to the hells and back again, again and again.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's only by practice, by learning to release those patterns that you can begin to make a chain.
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  SPEAKER_01: Change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Live all visual and auditory experiences without attachment as a hallucination.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know when you're tripping out of your gourd and things start going strange
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  SPEAKER_01: and you just say to yourself, I took a drug, it'll wear off.
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  SPEAKER_01: I took a drug, it'll wear off.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you hold yourself together like that until morning when it wears off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like that, only all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: You took a drug.
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  SPEAKER_01: The drug was called confusion.
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  SPEAKER_01: The nature of the confusion is duality.
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  SPEAKER_01: Long, long ago and far,
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  SPEAKER_01: far away,
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  SPEAKER_01: in the beginning of each moment in each and every now,
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  SPEAKER_01: you dose yourself with this, duality.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you separate self and other
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  SPEAKER_01: And so you grasp after some
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  SPEAKER_01: others and flee from others that you don't like much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you think it's real.
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  SPEAKER_01: You think your perception of reality is real.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oops.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are in error.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's no more real than my perception of reality, which ain't diddly squat.
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  SPEAKER_01: It changes all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not steady.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any drug will change it, including caffeine, to which I'm slightly addicted.
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  SPEAKER_01: Notice the difference when you're drunk and sober,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you've had a cup of coffee and haven't,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever your drug of choice, carbs, chocolate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Notice the difference in how you perceive your reality and yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: If it's that easy to change, well, why don't you go ahead and change it on purpose?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Enter the stream of the Dharma and flow with it into the great ocean of enlightenment.
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  SPEAKER_01: A dream, a reflection, the moon in water, a fairy place in the sky.
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  SPEAKER_01: Distortion of sight, an aberration, a bubble, an echo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Perform all your daily activity in this state without making any division
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  SPEAKER_01: between sessions of meditation and intervals between them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Practice constantly day and night.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some of you have done with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: A retreat called working with perception takes about a week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fun retreat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Really nyami.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see all sorts of weird stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why I say it's a fun retreat.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the retreat.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just described it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's working with professions.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a much longer text with details of how to do it,
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  SPEAKER_01: including dream yoga, which goes in the retreat when we do it together.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that's the basics of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You take it as an illusion and become playful and play with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: However, that's a nundro.
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  SPEAKER_01: A rushen.
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  SPEAKER_01: A doorway, an entrance.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not the real thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not the gold ring.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's not a banana.
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  SPEAKER_01: What you...
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  SPEAKER_01: Need to do is use that method by playing with it,
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  SPEAKER_01: by seeing how mutable and flexible your way of perceiving reality is by discovering
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  SPEAKER_01: that playfully.
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  SPEAKER_01: Use that to enter the next stage.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why working with perceptions is always a limited retreat.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not your daily practice forever.
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  SPEAKER_01: You do it for a week or two,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then you come out for at least as long as you were in,
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  SPEAKER_01: preferably twice as long, and you see what it did.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you go in for a week or two if you need more.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not a daily practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because of its limitations.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see, even if you're playing with your perceptions, you're still believing in perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're just changing which ones you believe in.
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  SPEAKER_01: That loosens the hold of patterns on you,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it doesn't take you
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  SPEAKER_01: out of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Out is this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do not seek to alter your thoughts in any way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Leave them in their natural state without forcing or adulterating them,
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  SPEAKER_01: because by this time you know what the fuck they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: No thing in nowhere, not made of nothing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Therefore, having lost their power over you, you can.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are now capable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of leaving them in their natural state.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let them alone as empty radiance without clinging to them
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  SPEAKER_01: and thus allow self-expression to release itself by itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let them be without reification, without meditation, without any effort.
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  SPEAKER_01: Leaving no trace whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not a doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let it be like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Questions so far?
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  SPEAKER_00: Not many.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anything particularly interesting that needs to get chewed and swallowed a bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had it just a moment ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bear with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Try it for a minute with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's sit here and do that while she finds questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Leave it be as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I found one.
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  SPEAKER_00: You once said that perception is the key to all magic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you elaborate more on this point?
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  SPEAKER_01: You, if you are like most people, are constantly casting nasty spells on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunate but true.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you use a bad mantra, for example, I'm an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every time you forget the spice in the cooking,
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  SPEAKER_01: forget where your car keys are,
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  SPEAKER_01: or do some other silly thing in life that's really common,
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  SPEAKER_01: Forget to take the casserole out of the oven.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember that one.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was really nice scalloped potatoes, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pity.
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  SPEAKER_01: You twist yourself in directions.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's magic.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you are, first of all, perception.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you combine
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  SPEAKER_01: A sensation of the six senses
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  SPEAKER_01: with thoughts describing what that means,
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  SPEAKER_01: such as I describe the fact that I can't see the page very clearly
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  SPEAKER_01: without these today.
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  SPEAKER_01: As my eyes are not working well today, I have a slight head cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: Therefore, looking through these will help.
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  SPEAKER_01: I need glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a whole set of descriptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Around the sensation of, huh, the words are fuzzy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have feelings about that sensation.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm slightly annoyed by needing glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've never really needed glasses my whole life.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm slightly annoyed about the hassle of having to go find them when the words are too small.
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  SPEAKER_01: So my emotion is minor annoyance,
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  SPEAKER_01: but my emotion It is about the interpretation of blurry words in
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  SPEAKER_01: that I need glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: I could just as easily interpret perceiving or seeing the sensation
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  SPEAKER_01: of seeing blurry words as, oh, I'm in the dream time.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look, we've got the students here with me in the dream time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Y'all come on closer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come through the computer and sit in the room.
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  SPEAKER_01: See, I can do this interpretation, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hi, a couple of you made it.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, you weren't actually online.
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  SPEAKER_01: You were asleep.
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  SPEAKER_01: You still are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, never mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Many things can happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: The way you loosen your hold is to play.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's just because very few of us can just let go when I say, come on, guys, just let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Huh?
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  SPEAKER_01: What?
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  SPEAKER_01: What am I supposed to let go of with what?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to work.
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  SPEAKER_01: So first I teach you to play with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's magic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember,
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  SPEAKER_01: your perceptions is just a clump,
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  SPEAKER_01: a bilblah, an entanglement of sensations, thoughts, and feelings.
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  SPEAKER_01: We work first with thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: We learn to recognize the nature of thoughts while we're thinking them.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the first word of Garabdurji Tala.
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  SPEAKER_01: We get really good at that.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the second word of Garabdurji Gompa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, as SOPA begins to spontaneously arise at times, we add in working with feelings.
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  SPEAKER_01: We work with feelings by seeing the nature of the thoughts that the feelings are about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Seeing it in Tawa as Tawa,
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  SPEAKER_01: which strips naked the feeling and simply not staring at and not looking away from,
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  SPEAKER_01: but leaving the sensation,
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  SPEAKER_01: the ye sensation,
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  SPEAKER_01: the physical sensation of that feeling Just as it is,
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  SPEAKER_01: you can review this in chapters 12 and 13 of Flight of the Garuda.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've been there, we've done that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And accepting the sensation without labeling it good or bad.
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you're good at that,
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  SPEAKER_01: once you can do that reliably in the field, when the bus driver yells at you,
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  SPEAKER_01: When the car almost misses you in the crosswalk.
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you can do that, now we start with working with perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Knowing the nature of the thoughts and feelings that ride the sensations,
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  SPEAKER_01: we are able to release them and sit
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  SPEAKER_01: specifically and exactly with sensations.
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  SPEAKER_01: As they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we can play.
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  SPEAKER_01: We can take a sensation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pain.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have arthritis badly in the ball of this thumb and sometimes it stabs.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I push on it, it will do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I can take this pain.
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  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I can change what I think it is,
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  SPEAKER_01: what I think is causing it, the story around it, and how I feel about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now that's distracting though.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was too much fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: In this way, you play.
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  SPEAKER_01: By playing,
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  SPEAKER_01: you release your clutch on duality,
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  SPEAKER_01: beginning to perceive the complete lack of separation between inside and outside,
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  SPEAKER_01: the dream yoga and the sitting practices that go with working with perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which was just described in that chapter in 21 in the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_01: Assist you in doing that,
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  SPEAKER_01: hence the betterness of the long text than just doing it, trying to do it from here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Actually,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's a medium text I use for the retreat and there's a long text full
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  SPEAKER_01: of analogies on the same thing, working with perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: What did Keith call it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Being at ease with phenomena?
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you remember the name of that text?
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  SPEAKER_01: Being at ease with, I think being at ease with illusion.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the short text.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have to look and see what the long, long, is the medium text.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the short.
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you've done that, once you're good at that, once that's easy, then this becomes easy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now you're beginning, Dzogchen.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've done all your nundros.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see, real Dzogchen,
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  SPEAKER_01: What I believe Keith calls radical Zogchen, but there's nothing radical about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just Zogchen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Zogchen by its nature is radical.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Zogchen, Zogchen, rather than exercises that bring you towards Zogchen.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's no progress, no order, nothing attained, nothing accomplished.
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  SPEAKER_01: Treat all past thought as the trackless past of a bird in the sky.
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  SPEAKER_01: All present perception as clear dustless space.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all future thought as the water in a mill with its sluice gate closed.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's no water in a mill when you close the sluice gate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without cultivating or modifying any thought,
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  SPEAKER_01: with a free and easy attitude,
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  SPEAKER_01: leave thoughts alone in their natural state of open space.
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  SPEAKER_01: Treat all gross and subtle concepts,
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  SPEAKER_01: all the ideas,
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  SPEAKER_01: beliefs, arisings, the three poisons, Ignorance, aversion, attraction.
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  SPEAKER_01: The five poisons.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jealousy,
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  SPEAKER_01: competitive,
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  SPEAKER_01: fear, anger,
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  SPEAKER_01: miserliness, desire, lust and loneliness, depression and sloth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like thieves entering an empty house.
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  SPEAKER_01: They neither obtain anything, nor does the house owner lose anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Treat external appearance of the six sense fields,
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  SPEAKER_01: which leave no residue in mind, like a city of magical illusion.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: What did you do yesterday?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: You think so?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Betcha that's not what you did yesterday.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's just what you think you did yesterday.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Betcha you don't remember all the things you did yesterday.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: Betcha you changed some of them and added in things you did on a different day.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Look at what you think you did yesterday.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you have a wife or a husband, a partner or a roommate, Ask them what you did yesterday.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be different than you think it was.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Check for questions for me.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: This is where there should be some.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, a couple of good ones, actually.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: How far a separation is this play of letting go and the textbook definition
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: of going crazy and losing touch with reality?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: What reality?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you have to go crazy to get enlightened or rather you have to go sane.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: You are already gone crazy.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: You've got it backwards.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: You better lose touch with your illusory made up reality because it's not real
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: and it's not serving you.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: Look at all the way you're stressing about things that
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: aren't even really happening.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Lego.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: A couple of comments.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: The title of Keith's book is Maya Yoga.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Maya Yoga.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's the long, long text.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nice translation.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: It won't give you the exact instructions of the retreat.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's an oral pass down.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: You have to get that from Keith or from me or from somebody who knows it.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: However, it's a nice addendum.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: For those who can't not read, it's a nice thing to read.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: Other questions?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that person.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: I have nominal aphasia due to all this white hair.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Thoughts leak out it.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Attention comes and goes, but is how we first know Tawa.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: How to trust that Tawa lasts if it's only known through a come and go?
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's only known through a come and go in the beginning.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: As you practice gaam,
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: the quick moments,
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: the short moments begin to merge and blend together until tawa becomes for you and
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: of course experience.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: This is the beginning of the third word of Garagdurji, sopa.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: You can't do sopa on purpose.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: It has to do you.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: But gam will lead to it as a practice.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: So as you practice the second word of Garabdurji, gam,
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: recognizing the already known Dharmakaya nature of mind,
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: frequently referred to as tawa,
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: inherent in all phenomena,
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: again and again in Quick glances during the day without attempting to grab
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: or stabilize the experience because it's a come and go.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's an experience.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: So as you do that slowly over time and how long is really going to depend on
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: with what enthusiasm you do that your previous karma.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: What's going down in your life,
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: your age, your personal patterns, what distractions arise, how you relate to them.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: So there's no guarantee of how long it's going to take.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: 10 minutes?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: 10 years?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: For me, maybe 30 years at least?
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: But I was really slow.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I was the worst possible student.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was slow.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was always getting distracted.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: I kept having careers.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: And my teacher was so patient.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's a pity because if I was teaching you when younger,
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: I could go to more places and do more stuff than I'm actually physically able
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: to do now.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: But, oh, well, that's our karma.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you'll be better students and I can turn you loose to pass this on
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: before you're too fucking old to get up into the weird places.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I'm feeling my age today, so I'm convention about it.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's not real.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's just one of those passing sets of sensations with some thoughts on it.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't leave any trace.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: I can feel that.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: In five minutes, I'll feel something else, I'm sure.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's being alive.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: You get to have your thoughts, your feelings, your perceptions.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: They don't go away.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Look, we're not looking for this Om Shanti Om.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Everything's smooth, always and forever.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to end up in the formless land if you grab after that.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's vital.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's alive.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Look at the term Chukurolpa, the play of the Dharmakaya.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's important.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: The lucidity, the life force of the infinite, open, empty awareness, no thing in nowhere.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: The vitality which pervades that,
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: its clear light nature is the cause,
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: the ability,
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: the point of the innate sparkle of the clear light,
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: which is the playfulness of phenomena arising.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Can you explain how the generation and completion stage are non-dual?
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: Practice is the generation stage.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Every practice you do, working with emotions is a method of practice.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: The word for method is top.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: If it has top, it's generation stage because it's a doing.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: Completion stage is not doing.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: But in not doing occurrences are permitted.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Perhaps from outside they look like doing.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: One might in the completion stage have a mantra occur in one,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: for one, as one, for the sake of others in a time that it did.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Someone watching that from outside in
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: accumulation stage,
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: Krim, might think you are doing a mantra, but in reality the mantra is doing you.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Since there is no you or mantra,
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: no self or other,
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: no in or and out that are really separate,
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: since duality is the primary illusion,
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: how could Generation Stage Krim and Completion Stage Zogrim be different?
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're the same thing.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: The four-dimensional,
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: with time as a fourth spatial dimensional pattern of all of it,
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: of how it happened,
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: how all Buddhas became, are, was, always, will be, kunduzangmo, kunduzangmo.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: How it is, it's like that.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: And yet it is not static, it is alive and continuously fluxing.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: A dynamically still pattern.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: See that?
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: If not, I told you how to get a look at it
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: as you go through the different things.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: One of our Spanish viewers asks,
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: doing traction continuously off the cushion,
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: is it normal to go through a period of monotony?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, extremely.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Extremely.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: You have missed the innate playfulness of the Sambhogakaya if you're hitting too much monotony.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Go play with it.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: You've missed the playfulness.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're taking it too seriously.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is very important that you take your Dharma practice as the most important thing
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: in the universe without taking it seriously.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know that's a little bit difficult to slide in between, but you can do it.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Play.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Play is so important.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's how little kids learn.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: They learn so fast.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: Watch a two-year-old pick up another language.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: They learn by play.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: If you can learn your Dharma by play, it will go much better.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: And all the doom and gloom Christian Lutheran seriousness that some people get into.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: One person had a question.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have it directly in front of me.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, OK.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: Asking about playing with perceptions before a retreat.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is that something that I guess is practical to do?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, but please, not while driving or operating heavy machinery.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: I have to remember you Westerners.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: Who have grown up in countries with guardrails,
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: with fences around the flat roof so that if you're out on the balcony,
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: you can't fall off.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Our children play on flat roofs out in India, but there's no fence.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is the child's responsibility not to fall off.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: It is your responsibility To have enough common sense
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: to survive your Dharma practice,
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: please do not attempt practices while driving or operating chainsaws.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: For really obvious reasons.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and those mantras that are supposed to protect you from contagion,
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: They work with the condom and the vaccine,
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: not instead of the condom and the vaccine.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: This is very important.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: One Lama,
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: because that of course goes without saying,
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: forgot to tell his students back during the AIDS crisis.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: And he didn't see any reason to tell them.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: It goes without saying.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone knows this, that the mantra goes with the condom.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: An entire center was lost.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there were young people.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone was sexually active in those days.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: Very.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're in our 20s.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: And many great practitioners died for want of common sense.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Don't put down the common sense.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: And don't practice while driving or operating chainsaws or other heavy equipment.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Have I said that often enough that maybe it went in?
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: I tried.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of practice can we do to change the opinions of others who wish to do us harm?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Does Trekshan cut through these kinds of obstacles?
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: But there are no others.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: You made them up.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they've made you up,
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: too, and see you other than as you are, and you're not even a real person to them.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: What you might be able to do for them involves working with Bodhisattva,
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: with Tonglen done properly with the proper pop Don't leave out the pop.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: And Chenrezig.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: This will help you to realize the lack of separation between you and them
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: the big picture, allowing
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: You to perceive them differently.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Since there is no them there, only your perception of them is affecting you.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Chenrezig and Tonglen.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: No other questions on Flight of the Garuda.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's a couple of questions that are more appropriate for tomorrow's Q&A.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: Tell them come back tomorrow for Q&A.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right now we're just taking questions right here we are in the text.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing a big Q&A tomorrow, same time, same place.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll do all those other questions that aren't right here on the text.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: So you'll come back tomorrow, same time, same place.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: In short,
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: regarding creation,
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: existence,
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: and cessation,
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: beginning, middle,
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: and end,
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: plan, doing, and completion, intent,
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: action, result,
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: the ground, the path, the goal,
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Vision, Meditation, and Sopa.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Tawa, Gompa, Sopa.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: And Fruition, Result.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: Time, Place, and Verbal Expression.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: The Disposition and the Disposer.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Liberation and the Liberator.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so far.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: When the innate radiance of all these offense is unaffected by evaluation
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: and judgment and one is free of effort and striving without clinging
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: to any partiality,
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: then moment by moment,
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_01: every single experience is brought to a final and certain resolution.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: Without attachment in the ultimate purity of the anti continuum of mind.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like droplets of water emerging in the great ocean.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: The question you just asked me a moment ago about how to deal with others who intend you harm.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: What I said is the answer.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: That was this in the words of the text put into my own words.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see the similarity?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because that is your answer.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not out there.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's not in here.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_01: Look for yourself.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Do not be disheartened when during meditation.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_01: Many thoughts disturb you and you think this is not meditation.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know that when you sit down to meditate and, yeah,
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta go shopping today and dammit,
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: there's that bill that's due and I wonder if I have enough in the checking account.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: It goes on, right?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: And Joe said yesterday,
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder what the fuck he meant by that and I wonder if he's pissed at me
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: and it keeps going on.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: Nam talk.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then you add on to it.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dear, I'm not meditating.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's something wrong with me.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a terrible person.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a good Dharma practitioner.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: This is a shitty meditation.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm having a bad day.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_01: I always have a bad day.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm terrible.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: Just shoot me.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, how far can you take it?
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you do.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: Frankly, for me, I recognize, okay, you need more coffee.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: But then I like my drugs.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: The mind may be actively generating thought,
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: but because the mind is empty, the thought is also empty.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: This is Zopa.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Look, your thoughts.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: Have never been real.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that you're making them unreal.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that you're changing anything.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: What happens if I think a shelf right here and I try to put my coffee cup down on it?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a damn how hard I think that there's a shelf here.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, I can't put my coffee on it.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Not without causing coffee to be all over my table and text itself.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: No thought is real.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that some thoughts are less real than others.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh God, I used to spend so much fucking energy trying to figure out what was really going on.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: I remember up in my cave,
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: my new cave,
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: because my other cave was too close to other caves
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: and I felt like I was just always around people and I wanted to be alone.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I went up around the big rock,
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: way up the mountain,
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: and I built a tiny little cave that was just big enough for my gum tree
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_01: so nobody could get in there with me.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: Which guaranteed that I couldn't have visitors because there was nowhere to go.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I filled the cave when I was in it.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: And one day, something came in the night.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't used to close the door when I slept or the window because it's just
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: a mountain up there.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: But something came in the night and it had long claws and it was blue-black in the moonlight.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it was wearing drapey black rags and looked a little bit like a crow and
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: a little bit like a man.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it wanted to have sex.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was not attracted to this skinny thing.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so the argument began where it kept trying to have sex with me
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: and I kept not having sex with it, but I didn't get much sleep.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: It pestered me all night.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: I kept trying to get into my clothes and I kept swatting it.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, for some reason it got stuck in me,
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: in my ideas,
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: that I had to figure out whether this attempted rapist that was
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: so far not successful but very annoying was a demon or a human.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: If it was a human, I would punch it in the nose and that would solve the problem.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: But punching demons in the nose doesn't work.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: You have to do ceremony and some other things at them.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to know what it was before I knew what to do about it.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I spent,
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: I swear,
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: a week to ten days without sleep,
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: going about to all my friends in the daytime,
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: the different yogis,
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: and including my teacher again and again,
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: and telling them about this thing that was trying to force me to have sex with it.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: And asking them, is this a demon or a man?
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: I know what to do with men and I know what to do with demons.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trained.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just need to know which one this is.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: My teacher,
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: when he got over his giggles,
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: said, just sit there in a full lotus and do zogchen well.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: The good news is, no, you can't be raped out of a full lotus.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you sit there in a full lotus, it creates a certain, and it creates a field around you.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: You can be groped, but you can't actually be raped.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: Good to know.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: However, I need sleep, damn it.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I was going back to my teacher again and again.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's not working.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's not where he says, well, why don't you move back to your old cave?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: Most women don't go live alone on the mountainside.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's only guys that do that.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: He knows me, right?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: Staunch feminist.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, not giving in.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: So when he got over his giggles that time, he finally took pity on me.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, your Zogchen isn't good enough yet.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to teach you Yidim practice.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: And he taught me Yidam practice.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: I went back to my cave,
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: and all night long I did the mantra of my Yidam, having done the sadhana at sunset.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it came, and it poked, and it prodded, and it tried to get me out.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: In those days, certainly at this point now, I've gotten so I can sit in a full lotus.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: All night, no pain, no problem.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: I could have slept in it.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: I was young and skinny.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: I must have been 22, 23, something like that.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: And quite flexible and quite athletic.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, I could completely have collaborated in a fist fight if it was an Indian man.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Indian guys don't know how to fight.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: They fight like girls.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: They try to tear each other's clothes.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_01: I grew up in America where fisticuffs are not uncommon in the playground.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: If it was a demon,
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: well, I was trained in exorcisms to some extent, and so I knew how to do that.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: This must have been later.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: I must have been 26 or so,
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: because I think I'd already done at least three years of my retreat
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: and learned some exorcisms.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, somewhere around the third night,
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: finally my yidim practice takes off and I turn into my yidim.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: I get up as this fierce
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: vat.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I am.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I whoop it and myself with the poor butt.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: And it screams like a banshee and flies off over the nearest bushes or crashes
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: through the nearest bushes.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think it didn't quite make it over and sort of skimmed the top.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then I hear scrabbling.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: It never came back.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: What was it?
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I never found out.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't matter.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: And that was my teacher teaching me that you don't have to find the real thought about reality.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now, how the hell am I going to teach that to you?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: Let's give it a try sometime.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you're mine.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: If you're just in the audience, don't worry.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: I won't do this without consent.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of hard on the student if they don't make it.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: One of my teachers,
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: nine-fingered top jaw,
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: was famous for the rather poor survival rate among his students.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: Survivors did really well in practice, but he didn't even hit 50% survivors.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Since whatever arises is a state of total presence,
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: do not attempt any alteration based on judgment and evaluation.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is after you're done playing with it.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Playing with it is an exercise.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: It is a rushen.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: Rushen.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Separating Nirvana from Samsara, they're actually not separate.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: They are the piece of paper with writing on one side and not on the other
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: that you cannot separate.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: But we go through an act of pretend separation to assist us in not being confused By
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: the attainment of an experience and mistaking it for the real thing.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you got it, put it back.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: If it arose, let it dissolve.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: No grabbing.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: When you leave it alone in its natural, authentic, Uncontrived state in that way.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: Thought will certainly be released into its own natural purity.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: So far, you all get it?
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: Anything new come up on questions?
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_01: OK, I'll take them.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because we're at a stopping place right now.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_01: But I'll go on further today.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_00: One of the Spanish viewers asks,
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: I listen daily to people in conflict to make decisions in legal trials.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: How can I apply this teaching to my work and effectively help people who are suffering?
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: Before entering your work,
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_01: arise Bodhisitta
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: and wish
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: to be of benefit to all others while recognizing that
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: the separation between self and other is not as firm as you think it is.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: Then within your work, do what needs to be done.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: The thing that is in front of you,
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: without over fretting and concern according to your training,
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: simply do what needs to be done.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: You are trained in this for it to be your work.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: You have methods.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: Just as a doctor is trained in pulse diagnosis and determining the correct
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Or interpreting lab slips and determining the correct medication.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_01: So using your training
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_01: in the moment without trying to attach this moment
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_01: to other moments, do the very best you can for the sake of others.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: And when you leave,
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: before you get in your car,
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: if there is a bench or a wall out of doors,
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or when you get into your car before you start the engine,
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: when you leave for the day, take a deep breath in through your nose.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: Blow it out through your mouth.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: Then another while stretching your channels out to infinity from every chakra as you breathe in.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: And relaxing them at the end.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: This will blow the day off you, which you need to do so you're not taking it home with you.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: Difficult job.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: Frequently.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: Notice Tawa.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_01: At work.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: Best I can give you there.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: A related question is this.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: How can one follow the idea of no real reality when facing violence
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: and abuse like children being abused or other unfortunate things happening
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: to other people?
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well you can't because it's an idea of no real reality and that idea is just as bad
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: as the idea of a real reality.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: You've missed the point.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: You need to practice Not cling to an alternative idea.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: So by noticing tawa in all that occurs in everything you think,
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: and later noticing tawa in everything you feel,
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_01: slowly you will be able over time to cease applying your prejudices.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: To the situations you encounter and will perceive them more clearly
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_01: as they are rather than as you hope they might be or fear they might be.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: Do your practice and do not attempt to antidote a thought with another thought.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: That won't work.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_01: You got to actually sit and notice Tawa while thinking.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: Not think about Tawa while being.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_00: Can we say certain versions of reality have more common sense to them?
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: Say walking and saying that's a big truck has more common sense than alternate interpretations.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: But you don't have to say that's a big truck.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_01: You just have to not step in front of it.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_01: How is it beneficial to name it as a big truck when you know that
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: if you see anything big coming,
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_01: even if it looks like an elephant with purple polka dots?
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you wouldn't step in front of the elephant with purple polka dots either, would you?
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's big.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_01: You still respond to perception in open awareness.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_01: Using, and common sense is not a thought pattern,
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: common sense is a certain groundedness
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_01: where you're not flying off after some kind
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_01: of idea like that's not a truck.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: You don't deny its truckness any more than you reify its truckness.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: You leave it be what it is,
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: which is something big going by there so you don't step in front of it.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_01: You react normally to sensation perception without investment in its reality.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_01: Just like in a dream, when you see a truck in a dream, you still step out of its way.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: Rarely would I challenge a truck like a bull.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: My red cape and flag it at some big Mack truck with some good old boy driving.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_01: It isn't that you need to tell yourself there is no reality because that is a reality.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: You think now, you think there is no reality and you're believing that thought.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, you have to let all of them go simultaneously,
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_01: including the one that says, let all of them go simultaneously.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_01: You can't pick and choose.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: Is this making any sense to you whatsoever?
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let me check again.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_00: Any questions?
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to your analogy of what happened during the AIDS crisis,
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: the question is, why bother chanting the mantra if we are using a condom?
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because condoms break.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: The mantra helps the condom not break.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: You might as well have the advantage.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know how often condoms break and slip off?
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's not, it's like one in 20 or something.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's not foolproof.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's safer sex, not completely safe sex.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_01: So what you do is you add something.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_01: If pregnancy is your big fear, you use a condom and a something.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_01: Spermocidal jelly or a diaphragm or whatever.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_01: IUD or Depoprova.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_01: You don't just use one form of contraceptive when you're trying not to get pregnant
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_01: when you're young.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_01: Things slip.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: So just in that way,
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_01: if you're using the condom to protect from AIDS,
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: back in the time when there was no cure or even a way of making it simply
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: a chronic condition,
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_01: there was no protection from the virus,
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_01: except for a little bit of that,
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: You use the condom,
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_01: but you use the mantra too so nothing gets by the condom
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_01: because condoms are not 100% reliable.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: Eh?
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_00: When we are convinced of the immutability and illusory nature of perceptions,
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: what can help us let go of the frequent self-referencing that arises even in
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: the dream of life?
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: In Mahamudra,
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_01: the instructions at this point are Rangrik,
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: examining and discovering perceptually the self.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_01: In Dzogchen,
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: simply relaxing,
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: allowing that to occur freely without any grabbing of it or shoving of it away.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: You've still got a subtle, Shoving away of that self-referencing.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let it be there or not be there as it will when you actually aren't grabbing it or shoving it.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_01: You're not feeding it energy.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it is its own self as it is.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_01: No thing in nowhere.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_01: If that does not prove to be something you are capable of,
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: Then I would recommend the Outer Body Ruchenne next time it's on offer.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_01: Just did it in Poland.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's coming up in Canada next month.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not suitable for everyone.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: Unless that's where you're stuck, what we're talking about right now.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's when you're stuck between doing and not doing.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_01: When you're stuck with a self-referent and you've done all the practices,
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: but it's still subtly stuck, it's a method of getting it unstuck.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_01: Takes three weeks, so it's a pretty big commitment.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's pretty damn intense.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_01: And there's nothing else I can tell you about it because it's secret.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_01: And many people publicly would not like what goes into taking people through that retreat.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_00: Can you speak about how someone knows they should take up a practice?
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: Anything else here in this text?
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so, no.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_01: I want to stick with the text today,
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_01: but that's a question to re-ask tomorrow unless Nyando remembers it.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Which is, you know, six of one, half a dozen of the other.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm old too.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_01: She's old too.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_01: I can't hope it.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you are a practitioner of lesser capacity,
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: unable to stay in the natural state,
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: you should practice a combination of examination followed by rest.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_01: In equanimity as described in the introduction.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_01: You go back to the first chapters and start over.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_01: This is a matter of seeking the mind and then just resting naturally.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Seeking the mind and then just resting naturally.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Back and forth.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_01: Alternatively, You can force thought to its own demise.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_01: Provoke relevant or irrelevant thoughts and then pursue them,
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_01: follow them home, one after the other in various ways.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Prolong each thought until the mind is exhausted.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Finally, when you have no more grasping, rest at ease.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's a fairly decent practice as a nundra.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_01: Make your thoughts go into this sort of chain of disassociated
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_01: where you're thinking shoe, teapot, fork, potted plant, envelope.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just random thoughts.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_01: Keep going for a while until you're tired of doing that.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_01: As you think those thoughts images may arise in your mind, where are the pictures?
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_01: The thoughts themselves that arise in your mind, where they be happening?
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_01: Try to see if your attention can go through the thoughts
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_01: which are completely transparent and find the ground of mind behind them.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Then at some point, pick one of the thoughts and stop and try to hold that thought.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Just one thought.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_01: Stay with it.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_01: Stay with it.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Stay with it.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then when you can stay with it anymore, relax, let go and just sit there.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you can tire the thinker enough to let go.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Another method is to meditate upon the real Lama in the center of your heart.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Guru yoga, keep your mind fixed on him or her for as long as possible.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then finally letting go, rest in a state of total presence.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Or again, Meditate upon a tiny point of bright light in the center of your heart chakra.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, heart chakra is not up here where you do pledge allegiance.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's down here under the xiphoid process, bottom of your breastbone.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Where the apical pulse is felt.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine the bright point of light in the center of your heart chakra.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Descending until it reaches the navel.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Slowly.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_01: This method will tend to destroy diffused or rampant thought.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_01: When agitation is stilled, Rest in total presence.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's one to use.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's a number of methods to use to drop the thought,
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_01: to slow it down, to lessen the excitement.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Breath in through the nose and out through the mouth.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Blowing is one of them.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is one of them.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Dropping your energy down from the heart to the navel is another one.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Diffusing your eyes is another one.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: When you hit torpor, torpor, you know what that means.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_01: When you're in this sort of a zone out and there's no brilliance or brightness
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_01: to it, no dance of movement or no dance of clear light.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Sharpen your gaze.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Strip the total presence naked.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Sustain the radiance.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Find and dwell in and as the innate clear light nature of Sambhogakaya nature of mind.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Or as a further option, imagine your mind is a light seed.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And when the image is still, shout
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Instantaneously, the mind shoots from the fontanelle, crown chakra like an arrow.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine it mixing with the clarity of the sky.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Identify your intellect with the nature of the sky.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_01: It is impossible that your torpor will not be eliminated by this method.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_01: When it has vanished, Rest in a state of detachment.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Since this advice is the result of personal experience, remember it well.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_01: These are some pretty good methods.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Another one from Rinpoche, when you hit torpor.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_01: Is to take a bit of juniper or other non-poisonous plants.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Certain ferns will work.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_01: You can use fennel if it grows in your garden, big one.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Take a glass of very cold water.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Put it upside down in the water.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're hitting torpor or sort of sleepiness while practicing,
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: just pick it out of the water and flick yourself with it.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Won't make you too wet, but it'll certainly wake you up.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_01: That was his favorite.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Questions so far?
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing yet for this last section.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a bunch of methods.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pick the one that you like.
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  SPEAKER_01: Try it.
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  SPEAKER_01: See if it works for you.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you cannae just let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without being trapped by thought.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of desire for thoughtlessness.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Increasing the dimension of total presence, abandon yourself to it smoothly.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_01: And be happy and free in that vast open space.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Initially,
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_01: in your practice of meditation,
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_01: thought is like a rushing river at the bottom of a gorge.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_01: In the middle, it flows calmly and majestically like the river of the Ganges.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Finally,
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_01: just like all rivers become of one flavor in the ocean,
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  SPEAKER_01: so all thought is resolved in the state where the mother light merges with
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_01: the sunlight.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Mother luminosity of ground.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Dharmakaya nature of mind.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Svabhavakaya as it always has, was, is, and will be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sun luminosity of path.
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  SPEAKER_01: Child luminosity of path.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the realizations achieved by practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those have a beginning.
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  SPEAKER_01: When son unites with mother,
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_01: the beginning-ness becomes lack of beginning-ness.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_01: This is the union of path and fruition.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_01: In particular,
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_01: whatever diseases,
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_01: hostile spirits,
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_01: or apparitions afflict you,
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_01: do not make any attempt to ward them off by magical rites.
• 1:19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Rather,
• 1:19:54
  SPEAKER_01: practice the following meditation that
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_00: attracts the problem directly
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  SPEAKER_01: and reduces
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_01: the affliction to the same taste as all other experiences.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Not instead of taking medicine.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Goes with the medicine.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Even the great yogis take medicine.
• 1:20:19
  SPEAKER_01: But when as is inevitable in life as in death, the medicine stops working.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are not bothered by that.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_01: If you are of use to others,
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do what the dream requires you do to maintain your place in the dream until
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_01: that cannot be done, which will surely come as death comes to all men.
• 1:21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Take yourself to a spot that frightens you.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_01: A forest,
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_01: a charnel ground,
• 1:21:10
  SPEAKER_01: an island,
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_01: an isolated garden, a rock cave, an empty haunted house, maybe a bad neighborhood.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Take yourself to something that frightens you.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Go sit under a tree, for instance, and visualize the following.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Transmute your own body.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_01: The vessel and its contents, all phenomena and nomuna into elixir.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Then offer the elixir to all the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the Ten Directions.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_01: After they have been satisfied, they dissolve into light with a disposition of loving kindness.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_01: And the whole of samsara and nirvana is completely filled with the elixir of clear light.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Then with your elixir that liberates by taste, you satisfy all beings under the sky.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_01: The oath-bound spirits and dharma protectors
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_01: who are qualities and talents become your guests.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then the supreme field of compassion.
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Are all satiated.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Then with the conviction that samsara and nirvana are of one taste.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_01: The unalloyed nature of mind that is Dharmakaya.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Walk and sit, run and jump, talk and laugh, cry and sing.
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Alternately subdued and agitated.
• 1:23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Act like a lunatic.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Finally, abide in a state of peace and happiness.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_01: At nighttime, sleep peacefully and naturally free of all discursiveness.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Diffused or concentrated thought.
• 1:23:40
  SPEAKER_01: Sleep in the space inherent within maintaining perfect attention to pure potential.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_01: When you practice in the above manner,
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_01: disease and hostile spirits are automatically asudged and pacified.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_01: Your view and meditation are then brought to resolution as your realization is like the sky.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Your meditation is naturally radiant and you act like a child.
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_01: Without any frame or points of reference, you act spontaneously like a madman.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_01: Making no distinction between self and others, you are a saint.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_01: Detached from whatever you say, your speech is like a melodious echo.
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Without desire for anything at all, you are like a Garuda soaring aloft.
• 1:24:38
  SPEAKER_01: You are like a fearless, intrepid lion.
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_01: All is free from the beginning like bright clouds in the sky.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Such a Yogan is a real Sugata,
• 1:24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Vidradara,
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_01: worthy of enormous respect and homage, far superior to the wish-fulfilling gem.
• 1:25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to do this until it happens.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is a description of what happens, not something you go do.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_01: If you are still trapped in self and other,
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_01: in doing and not doing, you'll simply do yourself a mischief by faking a practice.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Allow it to happen when it does.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_01: But don't do it on purpose, okay?
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_01: No faking.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Trippnium, crazy yogi, crazy realizations, crazy siddhas.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_01: You must not try to fake that for the sake of your ego.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Relax, it'll come, it'll happen.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's not your business to pretend it's happening sooner than it does.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Questions?
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_00: One person was asking if they can ask questions about other verses in Flight of the Garuda.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_00: For today or just focus on this one?
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Try the question.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Depend if it's at all relevant here.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to go fishing for the verse therein.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Could you say more about the nyam of experiencer dissolving into experience?
• 1:26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't it just another come and go?
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_00: Why is it important?
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is part of the path where mother luminosity and child luminosity unite.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Because when the experiencer dissolves into the experience,
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_01: the grasp of a single here and now in time is loosened,
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_01: allowing that which has a beginning and end to merge with,
• 1:27:24
  SPEAKER_01: to be one with, That which is beginningless and endless.
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_01: Nyams are not irrelevant and unimportant.
• 1:27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Nyams are signposts that tell you you're on the right road.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_01: They're very good for that.
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_01: The problem is when you pull over at the signpost and grab it like this and hang on
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_01: to the signpost, instead of continuing on to where it said you were going.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Confusing the signpost of New York 100 miles ahead with New York itself.
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so stopping at the sign 100 miles before your goal.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_01: When you come upon a signpost,
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_01: a nyam, a come and go, that tells you that you are on the right road.
• 1:28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Keep going through it.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Once someone is liberated through Dzogchen,
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_00: does the exercising of this real freedom come with the risk of slipping back?
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Or can it just be play at that point?
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I have been told.
• 1:28:50
  SPEAKER_01: In the final realization,
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Where mother and son luminosity or mother and child luminosity are completely united.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_01: There is no one to slip back into any back.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_01: For even time and space are recognized as ideas that have arisen.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_01: However, on the path The child luminosity of path.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_01: The experiences themselves reflect more and more closely of the beyond experience.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Do not be fooled at grabbing and hanging on to the signpost
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_01: that simply tells you you're on the right road.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_01: For as long as there is a goer, a going, and a going to.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_00: How can one be happy and free in this no reference point space
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_00: while seeing other sentient beings still trapped in illusions and suffering?
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_00: How do you not take on others' view of reality?
• 1:30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Beyond time and space, all beings arise as all Buddhas.
• 1:30:22
  SPEAKER_01: This is where Bodhisitta and Guru Yoga are the same thing.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Nonetheless,
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_01: within the moments of time and space continuum in the day to day,
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_01: recognizing the
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_01: Intensity of illusory discomfort suffered by all confused sentient beings,
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_01: one nonetheless gives what assistance is possible.
• 1:31:02
  SPEAKER_01: Both is's and isn't's aren't.
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_01: In that awareness, there is no suffering.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_01: But here and now there is, and so you take the steps you can to mitigate it.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Once there was a little girl.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_01: After a big storm in the night,
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_01: in the morning she walked on the beach and saw many starfish,
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_01: thrown up by the waves of the night, dying in the hot sun.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thousands and billions of starfish all along miles of beach.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_01: And she began picking them up one by one and throwing them over
• 1:31:48
  SPEAKER_01: the breaking waves out into the deep water like a frisbee.
• 1:31:53
  SPEAKER_01: And an adult came up to her and said, why are you doing that?
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_01: You'll never save them all.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Look at the infinite starfish along this beach.
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_01: You'll save a few, but...
• 1:32:07
  SPEAKER_01: You'll never save them all.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_01: And the child said, well, that's true, but you understand.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_01: And she picked up a starfish to this particular starfish.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not dying today is the most important thing in the world.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_01: And she flew it back in the water and she picked up another starfish.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_01: And to this one too, it is most important to them.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_01: And threw it back into the water.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Behave like that while resting in awareness of all beings being all Buddhas.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_01: And throw the starfish back in the water one by one as you can.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Because to that starfish really matters.
• 1:33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 1:33:08
  SPEAKER_00: There may not be any.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is, yep, this is it.
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, a deep chapter, and we are complete for today.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_00: And reminder about Q&A tomorrow.
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Q&A is tomorrow, 11 a.m. Pacific Seacoast time, whatever time that is in your place.
• 1:33:29
  SPEAKER_01: And on the 31st, I'll be doing a live teaching.
• 1:33:34
  SPEAKER_01: Up in Whidbey Island.
• 1:33:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's off of Seattle, lovely area, full of bed and breakfasts if you wish to attend.
• 1:33:44
  SPEAKER_01: You have time to make a plan.
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_01: You have to get in there by ferry.
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_01: There is a road that goes to Whidbey, maybe from around the north.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_01: I always take the ferry and the boat in.
• 1:33:54
  SPEAKER_01: So do check your schedules.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be doing it all day on a Sunday.
• 1:33:59
  SPEAKER_01: So Sunday morning, probably starting around the usual 10 or 11.
• 1:34:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then we'll do a potluck picnic lunch spread in the beautiful garden there.
• 1:34:08
  SPEAKER_01: I know the place I'm going to.
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's Lynn's place, Lynn and Nan.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll have a picnic and some hangout time and then another teaching.
• 1:34:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take a little nap after that.
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then another teaching in the afternoon.
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And it'll be a lovely day.
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you're all most cordially invited.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_01: We will be working with some chapter or another of Flight of the Garuda.
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_01: Again, but it's a wonderful text.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_01: It'll do none of you any harm.
• 1:34:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I always say different things when I teach something each time,
• 1:34:43
  SPEAKER_01: depending on what is needed on that day to those people.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_01: So you'll be welcome.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_01: You have to sign up in advance.
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_01: There's an email on the website.
• 1:34:58
  SPEAKER_01: And you can contact them and sign up there because this is private property.
• 1:35:02
  SPEAKER_01: The address will not be listed.
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have to simply make the contact if you want to come.
• 1:35:11
  SPEAKER_01: The teaching will be out of doors and vaccinated only, please.
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_01: If you are unwilling to take a minor risk of having a vaccine
• 1:35:23
  SPEAKER_01: to protect those weaker than yourself,
• 1:35:28
  SPEAKER_01: You may attend by computer.
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_01: There are some people coming who may have compromised immune systems,
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_01: and we will try to protect them as best we can.
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Anything else to announce?
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think
• 1:35:51
  SPEAKER_01: that's good.
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'll see some of you tomorrow.
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_01: We're still interested in talking about weird stuff.
• 1:35:58
  SPEAKER_01: And Dharma, and recipes.
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_01: Nyewandi
• 1:36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nyrdhu Dha
• 1:36:16
  SPEAKER_01: Che Che Sala
• 1:36:29
  SPEAKER_01: We are starting 22.
• 1:36:33
  SPEAKER_01: Next time, somebody remind me.
• 1:36:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I need to put some kind of bookmark in here because otherwise, I'll just do it like this.
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Remind me that I did it like this.
• 1:36:54
  SPEAKER_01: 22 is on the outside.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_00: 22 is on the outside, okay.
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Of course,
• 1:37:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to sort it out and change everything when I get to Whidbey because
• 1:37:12
  SPEAKER_01: the text goes with me, but oh well.
• 1:37:16
  SPEAKER_01: We'll find it again.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_01: You really don't want it all smooth and bland.
• 1:37:27
  SPEAKER_01: You just think you do.
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_01: It would be boring.
• 1:37:34
  SPEAKER_01: You can take me offline.
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_01: See you guys tomorrow.
• 1:37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.