Latest / True Crime with Gavin Fish / The State Rests | Brian Walshe Murder Trial, Day 8 Recap | The Murder of Ana Walshe
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- 0:02Oh, the end of day eight of the murder trial of Brian Walsh, of
- 0:08course, is on trial for the murder of his wife, Anna Walsh,
- 0:1239 year old mother of three. The state paraded in a gaggle of
- 0:22witnesses, character witnesses, it seemed to me, of Anna Walsh
- 0:26and Brian Walsh and their marriage and their happiness
- 0:32slash unhappiness. I mean, it was a parade of
- 0:37people that I think, I think definitely illustrated perfectly
- 0:43what the relationship was there. And then I.
- 0:48Actually was a little bit surprised by this.
- 0:50They rested their case, so we are going to be talking about
- 0:55that tonight. Don't forget to tell me in the
- 0:57live chat or if you're on the replay crew in the chat below
- 1:02where you're from. I love that.
- 1:04I just I just love seeing where you guys are from.
- 1:07So definitely tell me that and we're going to get into the
- 1:09case. Stay with me.
- 1:24This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
- 1:27only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
- 1:33Hello there, my friend, and welcome back to another true
- 1:35crime conversation. With me, Gavin Fish, I'm so glad
- 1:38that you are here on this channel.
- 1:41We like to cut through the fluff, the sensationalism, get
- 1:45down to the nitty gritty of true crime and if that is your deal,
- 1:48you found the right place and I'm glad you did.
- 1:50Thanks for being here. It looks like people are already
- 1:52checking in. Libu Grizzly got the memo even
- 1:58before we started. Says coming to you from Brazil,
- 2:02but originally from South Africa.
- 2:03Watch the trial coverage with Ghisla today.
- 2:07Good to have you Libu Grizzly all the way from Brasil.
- 2:13Glad you are here. Kent, Ohio in the house.
- 2:17Jacksonville, FL in the house. Happy holidays from downtown LA
- 2:22we've got Toronto, Omaha, Hickory, NC, Pearland, TX, New
- 2:28Hampshire, Newcastle, Australia and I'm sure more are going to
- 2:32be joining us as we go along. Lake George, NY is in the house.
- 2:36You guys are awesome. Thanks for.
- 2:38Checking in with me. So just a brief recap.
- 2:42Anna Walsh was a 39 year old mother of three.
- 2:47She was the breadwinner in her home.
- 2:49She commuted from Cohasset, Mass, the Greater Boston area to
- 2:54Washington, DC where where she worked, had a home there.
- 3:00They had a, they had a rental down in Cohasset.
- 3:05Not a not a bad living situation in that little rental house.
- 3:09But anyway, she comes home for the Christmas holiday.
- 3:13She's a little late because of weather and she spent some time
- 3:17with with her Paramore up there. There was that.
- 3:21But then on January 1st of 2023, New Year's, New Year's Day,
- 3:29after a little New Year's Eve party with her husband, children
- 3:32and a family friend, she goes missing.
- 3:36She just goes missing. She has nowhere to be seen.
- 3:39And you know who was to be seen? Her husband, Brian.
- 3:46You know, my favorite picture is this one.
- 3:48Actually. Do I have a mug shot?
- 3:50Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:50I. Like that one?
- 3:51OK. Her husband Brian, who was seen
- 3:54on video carting around plastic bags and throwing them away and
- 3:59dumpsters in various places around the Boston area.
- 4:04Of course, he was on home confinement because of federal
- 4:09charges against him. And that was one of the
- 4:12testimony, testimonies that were given today, was that he was out
- 4:17and about and he was not supposed to.
- 4:19And he said that, you know, he was just doing the normal
- 4:22things, not picking up kids, whatever.
- 4:25But anyway, not only was he found throwing away bits of
- 4:30evidence, but he was also found on video.
- 4:34He was seen on video buying suspicious things like, I don't
- 4:40know, 10 plastic buckets, A hacksaw, A hatchet hammer, a
- 4:48Tyvek suit. You know, like cleaning
- 4:51supplies. This guy, this guy, this guy.
- 4:55Anyway, after 8 days of of trial, a presentation basically
- 5:03mostly by the prosecution, I mean, we had the opening
- 5:05statement by the defense, but first eight days of the
- 5:08prosecution's case, they paraded out witness after witness after
- 5:14witness after witness to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in the
- 5:20minds of 12 jurors plus the alternates.
- 5:24Let's let's not let's get technical here that he killed
- 5:29her because as you guys know, nobody was ever found and then
- 5:36they arrested their case. So that leaves questions about
- 5:41what happens next. You know, the the defense is up.
- 5:45The defense is up. What are they going to do?
- 5:47Let's talk about it. But before we do, let's get into
- 5:50a few headlines. True.
- 5:56Crime headlines. Hey, couple more people checking
- 6:03in. Fredonia, PA is in the house.
- 6:04Lexington, KY in the house. What else we got?
- 6:09Do do do do do do do do. Do I think that's it?
- 6:12I think it's it. All right.
- 6:13Oh, wait a minute. Brisbane, QLD.
- 6:16Good to see you. Glad, glad to have an Aussie in
- 6:22the house tonight. Yeah, I I watched Ghisla's.
- 6:29Live stream all day today she. Does such a good job.
- 6:35I mean, she is she is the E Ching.
- 6:37She is what we all aspire to be Got Jersey in the house.
- 6:40Dallas, TX, Wellington, New Zealand.
- 6:42You guys awesome, awesome, awesome.
- 6:45All right, join me, if you will for a couple headlines.
- 6:47Now, some of these headlines are a little older, but I think that
- 6:50they're important. Let's start over here with the
- 6:54Celeste Rivas case. Celeste Rivas Hernandez, of
- 6:57course. Let me see if I can.
- 7:01I need to. I just need to have a better
- 7:04system here. Here is Celeste Rivas Hernandez,
- 7:0614 year old girl who went missing out of Lake Elsinore,
- 7:11CA. She was apparently in a
- 7:13relationship with an older man, a man guy, going by the name of
- 7:20David. He is the, he's the, you know,
- 7:25David. Anthony Burke is a singer.
- 7:27Anyway, we've covered this case pretty extensively here.
- 7:31Let's read this story from Fox LA written by Kelly Johnson.
- 7:37Headline Celeste Rivas case LAPD chief stays mum, stays mum on
- 7:41David's alleged role in teens death investigation Dateline Los
- 7:45Angeles What happened to Celeste Rivas Hernandez?
- 7:48The investigation continues months after the 14 year old's
- 7:51remains were found in the trunk of a Tesla registered to David
- 7:55Burke in a tow yard in Hollywood.
- 7:58No rests have been made and authorities have not confirmed
- 8:01if David born David Anthony Burke, has been identified as a
- 8:04suspect. Late last month, the LA Times
- 8:07reported that a grand jury will hear evidence related to the
- 8:09case. On Tuesday, music executive
- 8:12reportedly testified, saying he didn't feel it was his job to
- 8:15contact officials. Uh huh.
- 8:19OK, this is the main thing. Is David a suspect on Wednesday?
- 8:23Today, LAPD Chief Jim McDonnell appeared on Good Day LA and
- 8:28declined to discuss details of the case, saying that doing so
- 8:31would jeopardize the investigation.
- 8:33When asked if David is a suspect, McDonnell suspect,
- 8:38McDonnell did not offer a response and explained the need
- 8:41to keep details of the case confidential for now.
- 8:43Quote, that's a case. I won't talk about it this time
- 8:46because it's an ongoing case. To do so would potentially
- 8:49jeopardize the case. There was some talk too about
- 8:52our request to keep the information confidential that
- 8:55the coroner was looking to release.
- 8:57And our goal there is not to impede transparency, except you
- 9:01did impede transparency, Sir. Oh.
- 9:05Our goal is not to do that. We obviously did not meet that
- 9:08goal, is what he meant. And then he continues.
- 9:12All of this will come out eventually anyway.
- 9:15And then we learned we read a little bit about his manager who
- 9:19TMZ testified before grand jury yesterday and that it was in the
- 9:27hallway outside the grand jury that he could be heard.
- 9:30You know, that's what TMZ is reporting.
- 9:33OK, next case. Oh, this this is actually about
- 9:38a week old guys. And we've talked about this on
- 9:43the channel Fact last Friday we had Elizabeth Jones from
- 9:47Hillbilly Crime on to talk about this.
- 9:50But I, I wanted to bring it up just because we still don't know
- 9:55when the bond hearing will be for Mickey Stein's in the case
- 10:02of the murder of Judge Kevin Mullins.
- 10:04Judge Mullins, if you'll remember, is a Kentucky District
- 10:09Judge who was shot to death by his sheriff.
- 10:12And some people describe him as friends in his chambers, shot 9
- 10:18times to death. And that, sheriff, is Mickey
- 10:24Stein's He. Is he is.
- 10:27Charged with the murder of Kevin Mullins.
- 10:30OK ex sheriff to get bond hearing more than a year after
- 10:34being charged with killing a Kentucky judge.
- 10:36And we we discussed most of this already but I wanted wanted to
- 10:44read here. Whether bond is justified for
- 10:48the former sheriff has been an ongoing issue.
- 10:51In August, defense attorneys recommended a $50,000 bond
- 10:56saying Stein's is not a flight risk and poses no danger to
- 10:59himself or the community. Of course, they are arguing that
- 11:05he is not guilty by legal insanity.
- 11:10So to be able to say that one is not a danger but is also or was
- 11:16legally insane, I find those two claims to be I, I guess, in
- 11:28conflict with one another. Let's see.
- 11:33Prosecutors have responded that Stein's is not entitled to a
- 11:36bond, citing a section of Kentucky's constitution that
- 11:39says the right to bail doesn't apply to people charged with a
- 11:42capital offense. An attorney for Steins didn't
- 11:46immediately return a phone call and e-mail Thursday asking.
- 11:49This was last week Again, comment on the judge's rulings.
- 11:53Which is shocking because the Bartleys, Jeremy and Karami,
- 11:57Jeremy and Karami, that reminds me, oh, look what we're about to
- 12:01do. Yeah, I did it.
- 12:09I said Jeremy and Karami did. Have you guys watched have you
- 12:15guys watched The Good Place? The Good Place is an amazing, I
- 12:21think 4 season show on NBC. You can watch it streaming.
- 12:26It is amazing. Stars Ted Danson and why am I
- 12:31blanking on every Jamila Jamil? I'm blanking on everybody else's
- 12:35names, but it's amazing. Kristen, I'm blanking.
- 12:41Doesn't matter. Anyway.
- 12:43There's there's this whole thing about the timeline on Earth
- 12:45versus the timeline in the Good Place being it.
- 12:48It looks like the English cursive written out.
- 12:52Jeremy Baramy. That might be my my favorite, my
- 12:58favorite thing in all of television comedy.
- 13:01Anyway, yes, Jeremy and Carrie Bartley not answering a phone
- 13:09call or an e-mail. There's got to be a first and,
- 13:14and that's about it. That's all I wanted to bring
- 13:16from this one. OK, last one.
- 13:18This, this is in the Kata Scott case.
- 13:21Do you guys remember the Kata Scott case?
- 13:22This is a case that we have covered here on the channel.
- 13:25Kata Scott was a recent Penn State grad.
- 13:29She was a Miss Philadelphia pageant participant.
- 13:37She was working at an assisted living area and she left work
- 13:45early and that was the last time she was seen.
- 13:47She was, well, I should say, Keon King.
- 13:51This man was arrested for her murder.
- 13:54Police say that he was the last person that was with her and
- 13:57according and with another. Couple of associates.
- 14:01Buried in a shallow grave in Philadelphia.
- 14:03Anyway, this one is kind of tangentially connected because I
- 14:09don't, I don't know, but let's let's read this.
- 14:12Philadelphia City Council examines DV policies after Kata
- 14:16Scott murder Dateline Philadelphia Philadelphia City
- 14:21Council's Public Safety Committee held a hearing to
- 14:23address what leaders say is a pressing issue.
- 14:25DVA recent case that made big headlines was at the center of
- 14:30much of that conversation. The kidnapping and murder of
- 14:32Kata Scott. Several city officials brought
- 14:35up the case, questioning why the suspect was on the streets after
- 14:38he was accused of separate violent and threatening
- 14:42incidents. OK, that's the connection.
- 14:43Because there wasn't any DV with Katie Scott that I'm aware of.
- 14:48But there was with others for sure.
- 14:51I mean, and we covered that. Some city leaders say something
- 14:54went wrong and their goal now is to make sure no victims of DV
- 14:58fall through the cracks. To the Scott family, I apologize
- 15:01because as a colleague said, the city let you down, said City
- 15:04Council member at large, Jim Harity, as a council member at
- 15:08large, by the way, is somebody who doesn't represent a specific
- 15:12district or a specific region. He's he's at large.
- 15:16Kata Scott's father sat in the front row during the hearing on
- 15:18DVI. Appreciate the process that's
- 15:20making the whole situation transparent, said Kevin Scott.
- 15:24The Philly PD responds to 100,000 DV calls each year.
- 15:28This hearing is the result to. Is the result a resolution to
- 15:34examine the strategies? It's the result of a resolution
- 15:38to examine the strategies, laws and policies for protecting
- 15:41citizens. So that is what is going on in
- 15:45the Cata Scott case. Those are your headlines.
- 15:54Pow all. Right, let's get back to the
- 15:58case at hand. The case at hand, of course, is
- 16:05on a Walsh on a Walsh on a Walsh.
- 16:09OK, I watched about 8 hours of the trial today.
- 16:15Again, I watched it on grizzly. She does terrific, terrific
- 16:18coverage. I I, I do love her snark.
- 16:21I have to say I just, I just love her snark.
- 16:23I, I love it, but one of the things that she was talking
- 16:29about, she during the break, she was talking about who has so far
- 16:38testified in this case and I, I mean, she was going by memory.
- 16:44I had to look it up. I apparently don't have the the
- 16:48nubbin that the the nubber not the nubbin the nubber that that
- 16:53Ghisla has, but. So I went.
- 16:56Through and I figured it out. OK, so day one was Harrison
- 17:03Schmidt, the lead detective. Day two, he continued.
- 17:06Then Trooper Nicholas Guerrino, A forensics guy.
- 17:09Day three, Guerrino continued. Then William Foley from US
- 17:15Customs. Patrick Reardon, A canine
- 17:17handler, Thomas Menino from JetBlue.
- 17:21Gregory Lawrence from Cohasset Police.
- 17:23Seth Fox from Lyft. Alyssa Wimmer from Uber.
- 17:26Michael Kenyon from the Swampscott Police.
- 17:29Amy Waterman from the Massachusetts State Police.
- 17:32Peter Capazzoli, their landlord. Mark Silvagi.
- 17:38Anna's life insurance guy. Davis Gould, a forensic
- 17:42scientist. Getting into Day 4.
- 17:43There's William Fastow, Anna's boyfriend up in Washington DC,
- 17:48Christopher Murray Stewart painting company, Suzanne
- 17:51Garland, Bar Method Studio, Ashley Camino.
- 17:55And I guess I, I, I can show you guys.
- 17:57This is a list that I that I compiled.
- 18:03So Suzanne Garland from Bar Method Studio, Ashley Simino
- 18:07from Bar Method. Also, studio and instructor
- 18:11Janet Cotter, who saw Anna on December 31st, Julie Basler from
- 18:16daycare, Sandra Waldrop, Claremont apartment manager,
- 18:19Trooper Connor Keefe, a digital forensics guy.
- 18:22He continued into Day 5. Heather Sullivan, a retired, a
- 18:27retired trooper from the Massachusetts State Police.
- 18:31Doctor Richard Atkinson, a medical examiner.
- 18:34And we listened to his testimony a little bit here on the
- 18:36channel. Day 6 was Doctor Anderson,
- 18:40continued. Teresa Marchez from Tishman
- 18:43Spire. Davis Gould from Forensic, A
- 18:47forensic scientist, Hugh Dunleavy, chief of security,
- 18:51Tishman Spire, Patricia Patterson from Walgreens.
- 18:53I mean, this is a list man. Joseph Caesar from Vinny's
- 18:59Liquors. Cade Reed from Lowe's.
- 19:02Jamie Flint from CVS. Gregory Deneen from Stop and
- 19:06Shop. Matthew Sheehan from the Crime
- 19:08Lab, State Crime Lab Day 7 was he, continued Mr. Sheehan, then
- 19:14Bryce Raymond, Brianna Kiesel, Madison Frank, Troy Adams, Emily
- 19:19Oliver, Mary Nagle and Jolie Bregu, all forensic scientists.
- 19:24Then Karen Jacobson, ADNA analyst, Katarina Stashin,
- 19:29another forensic scientist, Saman Salim, ADNA analyst, and
- 19:33Michael Roddy from HomeGoods. Now Today we had Jim Mutlu.
- 19:41I now I'm second guessing how to pronounce his name and his
- 19:45friend and boss he was at Now I just want to make sure he he was
- 19:51there. Well, he was the one that
- 19:52introduced Anna to, to FASTO. I remember that.
- 19:58Then Marlani Ramdahl, Bryant's probation officer, talked about
- 20:04how he was. He was missing.
- 20:07He he left without permission. And she had called him to see
- 20:12what had gone on. And he was like, oh, it's just
- 20:13the normal stuff. Anthony Macrina from Home Depot.
- 20:20We had Caleroy. Palliada Gore.
- 20:24I butchered that. From Chatham West Apartments.
- 20:27Christopher Berlusconi from TJ Maxx and Alyssa Kirby, honest
- 20:32friend up in Washington DC. I mean this is a list.
- 20:35I didn't even count 123456. That's 6778910111213141516171819
- 20:46and then 202122232425262728293031234567,
- 20:5938394123456784950 they, they brought 50 witnesses in this
- 21:10case 50 now and then they rested.
- 21:16Now we're going to watch. In fact, before we get into what
- 21:18I'm thinking next, let's, I, I want to show you a couple clips
- 21:24from, from testimony today. Just a couple, let me go to the
- 21:30right area here. And I want to start with Alyssa
- 21:34first. OK, now.
- 21:36I have to. Apologize #1 the audio is pretty
- 21:39loud so if you got headphones on probably probably put them down
- 21:43a little bit. I didn't bump it up, it was just
- 21:45loud out of court TV. But there is a cut in here where
- 21:50I, I take about 5 minutes from her, 4 minutes from one part of
- 21:55her testimony and two minutes from another part of her
- 21:57testimony. But I forgot to do the white
- 21:58flashy thing so you know where it is.
- 22:00But you will see the cut. That is my cut.
- 22:03And I'm, I'm sorry that I forgot to do that.
- 22:04So let's let me make sure my speakers are turned down.
- 22:07All right, let's go ahead and have a listening a gander to
- 22:10Alyssa Kirby again, Anna's friend in Washington.
- 22:15DC, here she is. What she told me about that was
- 22:20that she was upset because she wanted him to take
- 22:24responsibility. She just, she wanted their
- 22:27family together. She wanted that whole process to
- 22:29be over and she wanted him to be responsible, be accountable and
- 22:36do whatever he had to do to keep their family together.
- 22:40And what did she mean? What did she tell you that she
- 22:44meant by the word responsibility?
- 22:47Yeah, At that point in time, responsibility was potentially
- 22:52just taking jail time and admitting wrongdoing and just
- 22:58owning a mistake. And so that their family, that
- 23:02she would be waiting for them and that their family could be
- 23:04together. Did she give you specifics of
- 23:09what she had told you about the amount of time?
- 23:15I think it was all an estimate, but at the time she thought
- 23:17maybe a year. What did she tell you about the
- 23:25physical separation and her family staying together?
- 23:36I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're.
- 23:37Asking. I'm sorry, I didn't ask that.
- 23:38Well, what did she tell you about being in different States
- 23:43and what that physical separation might mean?
- 23:46Yeah, that that it was really difficult for the family, but
- 23:51that also because of how difficult things were.
- 23:55She was contemplating what that could mean legally being able to
- 23:59take her children to Washington, DC, and also the physical
- 24:05separation from a husband was very difficult for her.
- 24:11What, if anything, did she tell you about having established a
- 24:14separate household? Oh, that.
- 24:20She had told me that everything was set up in her name, the
- 24:23house in Washington, DC and the bills where everything was in
- 24:27her name. So she she was trying to figure
- 24:30out a way that she could have the kids with her in DC.
- 24:37That's got to be tough as a mom, to be away from your children
- 24:41like that. It's going to be tough.
- 24:42What? If anything, did she tell you
- 24:44about her intimate relationship? Like I, I used to travel a lot.
- 24:49I used to be gone. It was usually about 10 days.
- 24:53No, it was usually about 20 days out of 30.
- 24:56And I did that for years just going all over the place.
- 25:01And I had and continue to have a partner in my spouse that is,
- 25:09well, she's the best mom ever, right?
- 25:11But it's still very difficult to be far away knowing that your
- 25:14children are growing up and they only see you a third of the
- 25:18time. And, you know, when and when I
- 25:21was home, I was at work too. So you know that that's tough
- 25:24for any parent. But I imagine with moms, it's
- 25:27probably even, I mean, it's way tougher anyway.
- 25:30OK, The question was about intimacy here.
- 25:33With Brian Walsh. She told me that, you know,
- 25:39aside from everything being really difficult, that they had
- 25:41not been intimate in a really long time, like maybe over a
- 25:45year, I think, she had said. And.
- 25:48What did she tell you as to why? She said it was because that
- 25:56Brian had been really depressed and that the strain of the case
- 26:01had really just taken a toll on his mental health and their
- 26:05marriage. And that she felt also that that
- 26:10her energy was being really drained.
- 26:17Yeah. Was she specific about what she
- 26:20meant by her energy being drained?
- 26:24Yeah. At that time, she was saying
- 26:26that Brian was calling her several times a day, that she
- 26:28felt physically and emotionally exhausted traveling back and
- 26:32forth from DC to Massachusetts. It was just a lot on her body,
- 26:38mind, soul and spirit. And that, yeah, that that that
- 26:44also just like emotionally feeling like she had to be the
- 26:47strong one was very draining for her.
- 26:50I just want to address this question.
- 26:52Yeah, the defense is going to call, well, what may call
- 26:58anybody on their list and we've got that list.
- 27:01So we will be, we will be going over that in just a bit.
- 27:08What did she tell you about Brian and his mother?
- 27:18She had always said that your. Honor objection.
- 27:23I'll see you at the side of the bench.
- 27:25This is my cut right here. There was my cut.
- 27:29Sorry, I didn't. Do the little.
- 27:30White flashy thingy miss. Kirby Did she want her family
- 27:34together? Objection.
- 27:36Your honor, she stated it, she can answer it.
- 27:41So rephrase the question. On December 29th, did she tell
- 27:46you? Did she want her family
- 27:48together? I think objection, your Honor.
- 27:57I listen to the question. Answer the question if you can.
- 28:00By the way, this was a this was a recurring theme all day today,
- 28:07which is why I made the thumbnail that I did.
- 28:09They the defense was clutching their pearls, your honor.
- 28:13Oh, every time somebody would. And, you know, it's actually
- 28:18proper, but it got it got a little much.
- 28:22So, yeah. Any notice when she says I think
- 28:25no objection. I don't want you to testify
- 28:28about what you think. You testify about what you know,
- 28:30right. It just went on and on and on
- 28:34and on all day. It was annoying.
- 28:37On December 29th, what did she tell you about if she wanted her
- 28:44family together? She said that she wanted her
- 28:51family together. She also was exhausted and not
- 28:56really sure what to do, but I think she wanted her.
- 29:00As to I think all right, sustained.
- 29:05On December 29th, what did she tell you about if she loved the
- 29:11defendant Brian Walsh? She told me that he would often
- 29:19not tell her he loved her and I would always ask her how much
- 29:25she was in love with him and that she told me that this time
- 29:28she answered not as much because of everything that had happened
- 29:33and. Yeah, that she was falling out
- 29:43of love, and also that she wanted, you know, I think she
- 29:49saw. Again, she saw, I know it's a
- 29:52long time ago, but it has to be the statement she made to you,
- 29:55not what you think or what you understood from it.
- 29:58It's statements that she made to you OK.
- 30:01Sorry. And on December 29th of 2022,
- 30:10how did she physically appear to you?
- 30:14Tired. And on December 29th of 2022,
- 30:20did you go out to karaoke? Yes.
- 30:23And did she go dancing? Yeah, it was karaoke dancing.
- 30:27Thank you any. Recross.
- 30:31No, thank you. All right, So the first part of
- 30:34that was on direct, and then it was on redirect.
- 30:37The second part was on redirect. So yeah, this was that was
- 30:41actually painful to watch. She obviously was very deeply in
- 30:44love with her friend. And it's completely
- 30:48understandable to have such a hard time testifying like that.
- 30:56Comment from Ohio Paw Mom says they're objecting so much that
- 31:00the jury will think they're hiding things Yeah that's I
- 31:03mean, yeah, I, I think that's AI would too.
- 31:11I I would I would think that I think oh, I said I think please
- 31:15nobody object OK, please nobody object OK the next one is from
- 31:19Jim. This is Jim This is about a 2
- 31:24minute and 41 second clip. Let's let's have a watch you
- 31:29mentioned. A name on direct examination.
- 31:33I'd like to talk to you a little bit about you use the name Will
- 31:37or William Fastow. That's correct.
- 31:40And in 2022, you had known Will for about 20 years.
- 31:48Thereabouts, yes. And you guys were both in real
- 31:50estate and that's how you met him?
- 31:52That's correct. He was in real estate in Boston
- 31:541st and then DC OK. And when Brian and Anna were
- 31:59looking to relocate to Washington, DC for her job, they
- 32:02wanted to buy a family home down there.
- 32:04That's correct. And you hooked both of them up
- 32:06with Will the realtor. That is correct.
- 32:09And would it also be fair that it would it would be nice for
- 32:12Anna to have a personal and a friend down there going down to
- 32:15DC with no one else at the time? That's correct.
- 32:18And again, you had told us that she was looking into investing
- 32:21in more real estate as investment properties.
- 32:24That's correct. And during this process, Brian
- 32:30Walsh and Will Fastow really just had a professional
- 32:32relationship, no friendship. I don't know what kind of
- 32:39relationship they had. I'm not Privy to the details of
- 32:43their relationship. OK, but through your
- 32:47conversation. You're talking about Brian
- 32:48Walsh. Yes, Brian Walsh and Will
- 32:50Fastow. Yes.
- 32:51I do not. I'm not Privy to the to the
- 32:53conversations they had or. OK, but you knew that you had
- 32:57introduced both Mr. Walsh and Anna to Will for the purpose of
- 33:00finding a family home. As far as I'm concerned, I had
- 33:03introduced the family, the Walsh family.
- 33:06Thank you to. Will fastow.
- 33:07OK, and at some point Anna told you that she had become good
- 33:13friends with Will Fastow. That's correct.
- 33:17And I think you told us a little bit about a phone call you had
- 33:21with her on December 29th. That's correct.
- 33:26Anna Walsh never told you that she was romantically involved
- 33:29with Will Fastow. No.
- 33:31She never told you that she was going to leave Mr. Walsh for
- 33:35Will Fastow. No.
- 33:38And she never told you that she was, that she had more than
- 33:43platonic feelings for Mr. Fastow.
- 33:46Not particularly, but she, well, she was.
- 33:49I mean, emotions are complex. I knew they had gotten close OK,
- 33:55but she never told me that she had a a a relationship with with
- 34:01with well Will Fastow. OK.
- 34:03Yeah, yeah. I just want to return to.
- 34:07I think that's the her relationship.
- 34:09That I can recall. OK, that's the end of the clip
- 34:13that I wanted to show you, but that that whole relationships
- 34:16are complex thing became kind of a big argument point later on
- 34:23with with the defense. Like what did you mean by
- 34:26relationships are complex? What did you know?
- 34:28It was, It was dumb. It was just absolutely dumb.
- 34:33Now we had the question about what the defense, who the
- 34:36defense can call. Here are the 8 potential
- 34:42witnesses that the defense can call.
- 34:48One which would be fascinating. It would just be will it be must
- 34:53see TV for sure is former Massachusetts State Trooper
- 34:59Michael Proctor. Obviously everybody knows Mr.
- 35:04Proctor because of his misconduct.
- 35:06Well, he was involved in the Karen Reed investigation and
- 35:10caught with pretty egregious misconduct there.
- 35:16And I, I don't know, I guess the defense is probably going to go
- 35:20after his integrity to try to, I don't know, make some fractures
- 35:25in the investigation itself, though.
- 35:28Again, the freaking prosecution brought up. 50.
- 35:31Witnesses, 50 of them. The next person on their list is
- 35:38Tracy Minor. She was Brian Walsh's attorney
- 35:40in the art fraud case. She also represented him during
- 35:45early interactions with law enforcement before he was
- 35:48arrested. There are a couple of DNA
- 35:55specialists. I can't remember.
- 36:02I can't remember, Is it the same?
- 36:05It doesn't matter. Then there's Doctor Priya
- 36:08Banerjee. She's a forensic pathology and
- 36:11autopsy expert. She's expected to counter the
- 36:14prosecution's medical testimony, especially in the no body case.
- 36:20Dan Feria from MWV Forensics. He may be used to challenge the
- 36:26phone data. Again, what is the defense's
- 36:28job? The defense's job is to plant
- 36:30seeds of reasonable doubt. And if they if they basically
- 36:33they try to plant thousands of them hoping that one will grow.
- 36:40So Dan Faria and Steven Verano, those guys are both called as
- 36:50experts to talk about digital forensics.
- 36:54And then I couldn't find there was there was an eighth, but I
- 36:59can't, I can't remember. Doesn't matter.
- 37:03So oh the. 8th The 8th is probably Brian Walsh.
- 37:08Now that I think about it, it's probably Brian Walsh.
- 37:11So that's what we're going to see out of the defense.
- 37:13We're going to see. OK, how do we plant these seeds
- 37:16of reasonable doubt? What can we do to break the
- 37:19investigative part of this? OK, call Proctor.
- 37:22He is, he's shamed. Let's let's bring his shame upon
- 37:27the entire investigation. What can we do about the, let's
- 37:32call them, let's just call them forensics, right?
- 37:35The excluding digital. Well, we can bring in a
- 37:38pathologist, we can bring in an autopsy expert.
- 37:41We can talk about this being a nobody case, blah, blah, blah.
- 37:44What about the digital forensics?
- 37:45Well, we bring in a couple experts, right?
- 37:47So that is what we, I expect to see tomorrow.
- 37:50Now tomorrow, my guess is going to start out with a bunch of
- 37:57outside of the jury's presence conversations, probably about
- 38:02whether or not Mr. Walsh will decide to testify.
- 38:08I personally think he would be stupid to testify, but I also
- 38:13think that he must testify and so he will likely testify.
- 38:17That is my guess. I they don't have to have that
- 38:21hearing at the beginning. They can wait until later, but
- 38:25it depends on what the judge lets them do.
- 38:28Let me just check in with a couple of your comments here,
- 38:30see if there's anything else that I Yeah, it looks like you
- 38:36guys are Sharky. Sharona says Professor Joe
- 38:40thinks he will testify. Yeah, I I agree with her.
- 38:45She and she knows. She knows much better than I do.
- 38:50I just think, I just think getting up on the stand, I I I
- 38:54don't think the jury's going to like him.
- 38:55I just don't think they're going to like him.
- 39:00It'll be interesting. Interesting to hear his voice,
- 39:03though. Hear what he has to say.
- 39:05I guess so. Yeah, well, we'll see what
- 39:10happens. Tomorrow will be an interesting
- 39:12day. I with only eight witnesses, the
- 39:14prosecution went through 50 in eight days.
- 39:20If we've got 8 witnesses, we might be we might have closing
- 39:24arguments on Friday, possibly Monday.
- 39:28Which is a faster pace than what was scheduled originally for
- 39:33this case. OK, with no other comments guys,
- 39:39you know what time it is. 3 questions.
- 39:42It's three questions with Gavin. Fish.
- 39:51All right, you know the game. In this segment, this is always
- 39:55the last segment of our show. You can ask me anything, you can
- 39:59ask me anything, anything. Everything's on the table.
- 40:02Nothing is not on the table. That double entendre there
- 40:07anyway. Just e-mail your questions.
- 40:10Three questions at gavinfish.com.
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- 40:17You can also go to my website which is always linked down in
- 40:21the description below and you can.
- 40:24Just click on the contact me page and you can put it in
- 40:26through there as well. All right, now I have noticed
- 40:29with this opening question that we do have a little bit of a
- 40:34theme, I think. I think you all are into music.
- 40:37So the first question, what are some of your favorite bands and
- 40:41or performers? Guys, I'm an old soul.
- 40:45I was born in the 70s, kind of came of age in the 80s,
- 40:49graduated high school in the early 90s.
- 40:53But when it comes to music, I'm really more of a fan of the 60s
- 40:58and 70s. So of course of court.
- 41:01Yet you guys don't even have to ask.
- 41:03Love me The Beatles, got to love The Beatles.
- 41:06Not so much of A Stones fan, though.
- 41:08I do like, I like some of their work.
- 41:10I just, I'm, I don't put on the Stones like I put on The
- 41:13Beatles. Not not into that, but I, I like
- 41:16all the Wrecking Crew stuff. You know, I love all the
- 41:19Wrecking Crew stuff. I'm a huge fan of Tommy Tedeschi
- 41:23and Hal Blaine and Carol Kane, you know, the whole, all those
- 41:30albums. So that would be like, that'd be
- 41:32like Sonny and Cher and that'd be the Monkeys, that'd be The
- 41:35Beach Boys, It would be Glen Campbell.
- 41:37It would be everybody from the 60s that we're recording in LA,
- 41:42right? Love that stuff.
- 41:44When we move into the 80s. I, I don't know, I, I really
- 41:49like, well, they were in the 70s too, but I really like
- 41:54Aerosmith. I like Tom Petty.
- 42:01I just, yeah, I just like the older stuff.
- 42:04If I go to my like my likes in my you guys like to know about
- 42:10my musical taste, But if I go to my likes on my music.
- 42:15Let's go to the library. Yeah.
- 42:18Cat Stevens, Sam Cooke, Joni Mitchell, Aretha Franklin, Nina
- 42:22Simone. I love Alabama.
- 42:25I love Alabama. I think they're awesome.
- 42:27Pointer sisters. Paul Tiernan.
- 42:30I really like. I like America into the 80s.
- 42:33They were. They like Alphaville, Roxette
- 42:35into the 90s. I like Ace of Base back to the
- 42:3780s. I really love Prince.
- 42:39The cars. The cars are so underrated.
- 42:45What was I listening to today? Who's going to drive you home?
- 42:48Oh, Dang it. That is a great song.
- 42:52Yeah. Bellamy's Marshall Tucker, Elton
- 42:55John Doobies. When I get into Latin music, I
- 43:00really love Los Lobos. I love Gipsy Kings.
- 43:03I love early Shakira, like back in the 90s.
- 43:07I love Mana. I love, oh, why am I blinking on
- 43:15names right now? La Portuaria I really love.
- 43:20So yeah, I just Tracy Chapman, I love Clapton, Donato Estefano.
- 43:25I really love Fetopias. Of course.
- 43:28I really love Men At Work, Cyndi Lauper, Dire Straits.
- 43:33I just, yeah, I, I like, I like, I like Rock'n'roll.
- 43:39Now, most of the live performance, I, I hardly ever go
- 43:43to a live performance. Hardly ever.
- 43:47I have, I've been to, I don't know, a dozen or so live
- 43:50concerts of, of, you know, mainstream bands, but anything
- 43:57that is live mostly. I'm a fan of recorded music.
- 44:01I love the science and the art of recording music.
- 44:05So I'm not, I'm not all that my, my skirt isn't, isn't blown up
- 44:11all that much by going to see a live performance.
- 44:14I love the recorded stuff. But that changes when we talk
- 44:19about theater. I love musical theater and that
- 44:22is the, the live kind of performance that that we go and
- 44:28see frequently. So I, I really do enjoy live
- 44:34theater. What?
- 44:38Was that? I don't know.
- 44:40And we, we will do like high school level, community level
- 44:42all the way up to professional level or travelling professional
- 44:45level. We do, we do lots of of live
- 44:50theater. But and when it comes to
- 44:53theater, I really like, I like the classics of of course, I
- 44:57like Lerner in Lowe and I like Rodgers and Hammerstein.
- 45:01I really love Sondheim. I, you know, oh, Benny and
- 45:13Bjorn, I, I can never remember their last names from ABBA have
- 45:17done some amazing stage work, some, some stuff that I just
- 45:20really deeply love. So yeah, I'm, in fact, when I
- 45:25was going through, I was going through all my stuff and finding
- 45:29different. I have a whole bunch of like old
- 45:32ticket stubs from movies and stuff like that that I I've been
- 45:34scanning through lately that I kept from back in the 90s.
- 45:39And yeah, I saw a lot of musical theater.
- 45:46My parents did me right there. OK, You guys do tend to send in
- 45:50questions about my missionary work when I was a young man.
- 45:56It is how I began to learn how to learn languages.
- 46:01It, it actually served me really well when I got into my, the
- 46:06profession of my education, right, which is computer
- 46:09science. Well, it's really, it's both
- 46:12it's information technology and computer science.
- 46:14But the, the whole idea of understanding what a language
- 46:19is, how it is built, how it, how the grammar works, how logic
- 46:24works, all of all of those coding languages that I learned,
- 46:29starting with like very simple web languages like HTML, all, it
- 46:34all became possible in my mind because my mind was open to this
- 46:38is how language is constructed. So, yeah, Are you sure?
- 46:43I'm glad that I, that I did that missionary work.
- 46:47Specifically, I served in the province of Cordoba.
- 46:50Cordoba is kind of right dead center in the middle of the
- 46:53country on its northwestern side.
- 46:58It starts to get up into the foothills of the Andes.
- 47:03And so you know, for most of the time I was, I started in the
- 47:10city of Cordoba and then went S down to my favorite place on
- 47:16earth other than home, which is Marcos.
- 47:19Marcos Juarez is the name of that place.
- 47:22It is by far my favorite place in the world besides home.
- 47:26By far, people that I most love besides my family live in Marcos
- 47:31Juarez and and I was all over the place.
- 47:36Rio Segundo, Rio Tercero, Belleville, Rio Cuarto, Guinea,
- 47:43SU Kiski Sagate. I was everywhere.
- 47:47La Falda was the last place I was.
- 47:50I was serving in which is up right close to, that's in the
- 47:55foothills of the Andes. It's beautiful spot.
- 47:57I would love to go to Lafalda again too.
- 47:59And 2028 is when Kimberly and I are planning on doing that.
- 48:02What was my scariest experience? And listen, Argentina in the
- 48:0690s, I don't know what it's like now.
- 48:09I'm, I'm sure it's very different, but say, for example,
- 48:13I was out in Marcos Suarez. Well, the entire town of Marcos
- 48:17Suarez, maybe I only had one telephone I had access to and it
- 48:21was a pay phone, I don't know, half a mile away from our
- 48:26apartment. It's just, you know, there just
- 48:29wasn't really good communication.
- 48:31So thinking back on that, it's. Kind of scary.
- 48:35To be out out in the middle of of Gumpo, right, You're not,
- 48:40nobody's watching you. That's that's kind of scary in a
- 48:43place where you're 6000 miles away from home and no good
- 48:47communication. That's a little scary.
- 48:50I did get injured while I was down there.
- 48:54I ended up with eight or ten stitches in the back of my head
- 48:58from a fall. That was pretty.
- 49:01The scary part was going to the hospital and having to insist on
- 49:05new syringes and new needles and stuff like that because they had
- 49:11stuff that was already opened. And I insisted.
- 49:13And I'm like, I will, I will pay you.
- 49:16You just have to bring me a new package.
- 49:19That was pretty scary. But for the most part we were we
- 49:22were well taken care of. Not not really all that scary at
- 49:27all. The scariest part was that
- 49:28you're just so far away from home.
- 49:30And, you know, I had to write my parents letters and they would
- 49:35write me letters and by the time I got them, it was a couple of
- 49:39weeks after they written them, you know, So going back and
- 49:43forth, we were about a month behind on.
- 49:46Thanks. It was really sad leaving
- 49:50friends back then. Really, really sad leaving
- 49:53friends. And I did not handle that well.
- 49:55I handled leaving family way easier than leaving friends.
- 50:02And I had a friend who also served in Mission.
- 50:06He and I were talking pretty recently.
- 50:08He just got back from where he served.
- 50:11He went for a visit, which was also in Latin America.
- 50:14And I said how was it done in Tikolandia?
- 50:16And he was like. Well, a visit as a.
- 50:19Tourist is way more fun than a visit as a missionary so.
- 50:23I'm looking forward. To getting to Argentina in 2028,
- 50:28I've almost gone three times. In fact, I've I've had tickets
- 50:31to go three times, but work got in the way and I'd have to be go
- 50:36to like, I don't know, Germany or Hong Kong or something.
- 50:39And it always got in the way. So yeah, I hope that answered
- 50:44that question. Last question tonight.
- 50:46If you could. Assign one fictional detective
- 50:49to 1 real case. Who would you match with what?
- 50:53Oh, OK. Well, listen, there's there,
- 50:56there's one case that I really want solved really badly.
- 51:01And so if in this fictional scenario, I'm assigning this
- 51:06fictional detective from the get go, not as not as a guy picking
- 51:11up the pieces or a gal picking up the pieces after the fact,
- 51:14but actually taking over the case from the very beginning, at
- 51:17least that's that's how I'm playing this.
- 51:19OK. It's got to be Agatha Christie,
- 51:24right? It's got to be Hercule Poirot.
- 51:27Hercule Poirot. You got to have Hercule out
- 51:30there. And it's got to be Ellen
- 51:32Greenberg, right? Got to be.
- 51:35He would look at that and he'd say, no, this is not Suey CD.
- 51:40What are you talking about? Just look at her.
- 51:44And he'd turn her over and he would see all the stab wounds
- 51:46and everything. And he would lock that sucker
- 51:48down. And we wouldn't be talking about
- 51:51Ellen Greenberg's case because it would be long solved.
- 51:56That's that's what I got. And let's see.
- 51:59I mean, yeah, actually, when it comes to fictional detectives, I
- 52:03don't know. I don't know that I like 1
- 52:04better than Poirot. Now, I love Agatha Christie.
- 52:09That's that's my issue, you know, and I've never, I've never
- 52:16read an Arthur Conan Doyle story ever.
- 52:19In fact, I have never read Dickens.
- 52:23Guys, I'm not AI don't read fiction all that much.
- 52:28I was just talking with my aunt about it.
- 52:30I don't I read a lot of non fiction.
- 52:32I I read a lot, but it's all non fiction.
- 52:35It's history stuff. But with Agatha Christie, she
- 52:40wrote so many plays that and I've seen so many of them.
- 52:45I don't even know how many she wrote, but it's got to be
- 52:48dozens, right? So I know Paulo very, very well.
- 52:54But Sherlock Holmes, yeah, maybe, I don't know.
- 52:58I don't know him as well as Paulo.
- 53:02Let's see. Let me let me back up to a
- 53:06couple comments that you guys have.
- 53:10Oh no, I can't. I can't.
- 53:12I first Gavin, you got to close out the segment.
- 53:15Come on, it's three questions with Gavin Fish Pow.
- 53:24Mooney says if you like the art of recording, you got to watch
- 53:29Becoming Zeppelin on Netflix. That is something I have not
- 53:33watched Mooney, but you know, for years I worked in high end
- 53:38audio. And so it was what's really
- 53:40funny is it became so corny. It became such a cliche that,
- 53:44you know, we're building equipment that makes it so that
- 53:48you can hear exactly what the artist intended.
- 53:51OK, well that is a fine goal, but nobody knows what the artist
- 53:54intended but the artist. But but that's what our goal was
- 53:58all the time, right? Creating electronic devices that
- 54:02would play music, I, I should say electric devices that play
- 54:08music that sound real. But here's the thing, in a
- 54:15studio, nothing sounds real. Everything sounds perfect.
- 54:19So but that's the way I like it. I like, I like perfection.
- 54:24So I will check out Becoming Zeppelin on Netflix.
- 54:30Math geek says high school live musical theatre can be
- 54:33surprisingly good. Actually.
- 54:34Let me let me say this. When we first moved to this
- 54:36area, our first, our first experience with going to musical
- 54:42theatre was the high school production.
- 54:45It was a musical, and we were blown away at the quality of not
- 54:52only the performance, not only the the acting and the singing,
- 54:58but the production and the music that was all played by high
- 55:03school musicians. And it turns out that the kid
- 55:09who had the lead in that very play is now our son-in-law.
- 55:16And we love him. Great.
- 55:19Yeah. There are a lot of talented
- 55:21young people out there. Let's see.
- 55:24You should check out La Vitacion Roja.
- 55:26They are my favorite, favorite Spanish band and they are from
- 55:29my town. This year they celebrate 30
- 55:32years of their career. La Vitacion Roja OK, I will
- 55:37check it out. La Vitacion Roja.
- 55:40I should also say when it comes to Latin music in Cordova, they
- 55:46have a musical style called Quarteto.
- 55:48It's a it's a dancing, it's 4/4 rhythm dancing kind of music,
- 55:55really good. And it's and it is just so
- 55:59perfectly Corte Loais that I love listening to Corte do La
- 56:06Mona Jimenez is one of my favorites.
- 56:08Yeah, it's good stuff. No way.
- 56:14Como vas saludos de Buenos Aires, Avrasso.
- 56:19Thank you, Carolina. Thank you very much, Abarasso
- 56:22Sabos. Let's see, Mooney says.
- 56:29Love musical theatre. My undergrad changed from art to
- 56:32technical theatre when my ceramics teacher told me £600 of
- 56:36clay making per week and throwing 40 hours wasn't enough.
- 56:43That's funny. That's funny.
- 56:47See Hawkeye Gavin, it's collectible now.
- 56:49The records, I mean. Oh, yeah.
- 56:50I, I am a collector of vinyl. I, my, my library is vast.
- 56:58I, I had a client in Hong Kong that I would go, I went a couple
- 57:04of times. I sold him a couple of devices
- 57:07and I would install them as part of the part of the gig, right.
- 57:11If you buy this device, then we will send somebody to install
- 57:14it, that kind of thing. And he had so many records that
- 57:20if he listened to them all back-to-back, it would take him
- 57:23something like 30,000 years to listen to them.
- 57:26My, my collection is not that vast, but it would take years to
- 57:30listen to all of my music for sure.
- 57:34Love Poirot. Love Poirot.
- 57:38How about Monk? Oh, monk.
- 57:42Monk perhaps? Perhaps.
- 57:46And Tiff says I'd love Monk to be a real person on any of these
- 57:50unsolved cases. Tiff also says I've read all
- 57:54Sherlock Holmes and seen all Poirot, that's awesome.
- 57:58And Jules and me says I prefer Sherlock, but Poirot is a close
- 58:03second. Oh, let's see.
- 58:08I love detectives that aren't really detectives.
- 58:10Miss Marple, Father Brown and of course, Jessica Fletcher.
- 58:13Yeah, that's pretty fun. That's pretty fun.
- 58:16And Mooney says my vinyl library is massive.
- 58:19The original pressings. Yeah, I've I've got lot.
- 58:21I've still got some unopened stuff that.
- 58:24I mean, I've got, I've got unopened stuff that I bought in
- 58:27the 90s. I and I've got I mean if you
- 58:33I've got so much 200 gram stuff, I've got a lot of 160 gram I've
- 58:37got a lot of vinyl. I love it.
- 58:40I love it. So you guys are my kind of
- 58:43people. All right, guys that that gets.
- 58:45Us to the. End.
- 58:45Thank you so much for being with me today.
- 58:47We'll be back tomorrow, 6:00 PM Eastern, probably to talk about
- 58:52what the devil the defense did today in the case in the trial
- 59:02of Brian Walsh in the murder of his wife, Anna.
- 59:08With that. Well, let's see.
- 59:11Hold on. What about Dixon Hill?
- 59:14You guys are keeping me. You guys are keeping me.
- 59:18Dixon Hill. I I don't know Dixon Hill, but
- 59:22it's Patrick Stewart. What is the matter with me?
- 59:24Got to get me some Patrick Stewart Scotch.
- 59:27Mom says Harry Bosch is my favorite detective.
- 59:29I like Bosch. I do enjoy Bosch.
- 59:32Yes, yes, yes. All right, thanks guys.
- 59:35I will see you tomorrow on this very channel, 6:00 PM.
- 59:40Don't forget that you can join us over on the Fish Tank on
- 59:44Facebook if you haven't. If if you're on Facebook and you
- 59:48haven't joined us, you are cordially, cordially invited.
- 59:51And before we go real quick, let me just show you I found some
- 59:56negatives today that I scanned in with my trusty brand spanking
- 1:00:02new scanner O negatives. And yeah, here is a picture of
- 1:00:0816 year old Gavin trying to look.
- 1:00:15Wow, yes, that I I was I was experimenting with color
- 1:00:20photography at the time. I was I I really been into black
- 1:00:24and white. I still AM.
- 1:00:25And this was originally in color, but I had not gotten the
- 1:00:29lighting correct at all. Not at all.
- 1:00:34And my favorite comment is looking like you're going to
- 1:00:37close real estate deal after geometry.
- 1:00:39Very much happier. No, that was my brother's sport
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