Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Price, Value, and Perception: How to Win Over Customers and Clients
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today's episode is going to be a
- 0:04noisy 1 because it's a full house, you know, kids are home
- 0:07and it's a weekend. And the topic we're going to
- 0:11look at today is how to deal with price objections in the
- 0:14beauty and skin care space, dealing with price objections in
- 0:17beauty and skin care sales. And the reason why we're looking
- 0:22at this today is because of another podcast listener
- 0:27comment. We're going to call her Neca the
- 0:30Pretty Serpent. Of course, that's not her real
- 0:32name. So Neca the Pretty Serpent is
- 0:34based off based in Inugu. She's a podcast listener, been
- 0:38chatting on WhatsApp a bit. She's a member of a WhatsApp
- 0:40community of other beauty and skin care sales professionals.
- 0:46And the folks in the group had some questions around how to
- 0:49deal with price objections in that space.
- 0:52You know, you're trying to sell your lipstick or to try and sell
- 0:54your bleaching cream or your hair cream or your, or your
- 1:01normal Vaseline cream or your sunblock kind of cream, You
- 1:06know, stuff that people sell, you know, cream that's supposed
- 1:09to deal with stretch marks from pregnancy and all these sorts of
- 1:12things. So you're trying to sell it and
- 1:14then people say things like you're too expensive or they
- 1:17shout at you. They say 65K for what or you
- 1:21know they say you want to build house or they say 100K in this
- 1:25economy, you know those sorts of things.
- 1:27So that's what we're going to look at what how to deal with
- 1:30today. Now if you'd love to connect
- 1:33then hit me up. The phone number is 08064662140.
- 1:38The country code is lost 234 for those of you who are not
- 1:40Nigerian and then connect with me on socials as well.
- 1:44The place where I spend most of my time is on LinkedIn, the name
- 1:47to look for establishment IED. Now before we start going into
- 1:53how to tackle the objections, First off we need to define what
- 1:56an objection is in the 1st place because there are a couple of
- 1:58people who are listening to the show who are newbies and who
- 2:00don't understand, you know WTF an objection is.
- 2:05So an objection is just any reason that people give, the
- 2:12potential customer gives the person on the other side any
- 2:14reason that they give for not taking the next step or for not
- 2:17continuing with the relationship.
- 2:20So like with the examples that I gave, for instance, if the
- 2:22person says you're too expensive and because of that they seem to
- 2:26hem, they seem to hawk, and it's like they're not really feeling
- 2:29the whole thing. Again, that's an objection.
- 2:32If the person says 65K for what, but the person goes ahead and
- 2:36pays, then that 65 K is not really an objection.
- 2:39The person was just doting a concern.
- 2:42Let me just put it that way. But if somebody says 65K for
- 2:46what and it looks as if things are slowing down or the person
- 2:48is ghosting you, things like that, then that's an objection.
- 2:52So whenever people say all these price related things and it
- 2:55looks like that's the reason why they are not taking the next
- 2:58step, why they're not continuing with the business relationship,
- 3:01then that is an objection. Now, this is not the first
- 3:05objection episode that I've made over here on the podcast.
- 3:08So once you're done listening to this episode, if you're a
- 3:10newbie, just go to YouTube because all the podcast episodes
- 3:13are there over 1000 podcast episodes.
- 3:17Oh, by the way, I'd like to thank all of you guys that have
- 3:19been with me from the beginning because we have hit 1000
- 3:22episodes. So thank you very much guys for
- 3:24keeping me company over the last.
- 3:26I can't remember how long it's been, but I know it's since
- 3:31before COVID became a thing. So since before COVID.
- 3:35For those of you who've been following, supporting, liking,
- 3:38sharing, commenting, reaching out, doing business with me, I'd
- 3:44love to thank you guys for supporting me for 1000 episodes,
- 3:49or rather as at today, 1001 episodes because I think this
- 3:53particular one when I loaded up should be 1002.
- 3:56So thank you very much for the support.
- 3:58I really appreciate you guys for keeping me company along the way
- 4:02and I'm looking forward to another, you know, thousand or
- 4:06however many episodes that we still have left together.
- 4:09And I'll do my best to keep providing value to you guys over
- 4:14here to help you grow your businesses.
- 4:17Remember to keep liking and sharing with other people who
- 4:20might also find value from these podcast episodes as well.
- 4:24So where was I? Where was I?
- 4:29OK, I lost my train of thought. OK, well, we're talking about
- 4:35objections, how to deal with objections.
- 4:37And we had defined what an objection was.
- 4:39Yes, I think that's where I was. Now the like I said, I have
- 4:43dealt with a number of double objections in the number of
- 4:47podcast episodes before. So when you're done listening to
- 4:49this one, if this is your first time listening to the show, then
- 4:53go over to YouTube because you have over 1000 podcast episodes
- 4:56there, 1000, I want to be precise.
- 4:58Then just hit in the search button, just hit right Tavishima
- 5:03and then write objections. And every single podcast episode
- 5:06that I've made that deals with handling price objections or
- 5:10just do Tavishima price, do Tavishima price objections,
- 5:14Tavishima objections in any number of combinations like
- 5:17that. And you should get all the
- 5:18episodes that I've done dealing with this sort of topic, but the
- 5:22general approach is always the same.
- 5:24First off, we want to agree or empathize with people because we
- 5:27want them to know that what they're saying actually makes
- 5:30sense. They're not being total idiots.
- 5:34Also, because I mean, let's face it, if you're the high-priced
- 5:36option, it's like you, you can't sweep it under the wrong, the
- 5:40wrong, you know, if you're a high-priced option, you're a
- 5:42high-priced option. It's not something you can run
- 5:44away with. So just by the bullet, agree,
- 5:46empathize, then we need to ask some questions.
- 5:49And the reason why we need to ask some questions is because
- 5:52sometimes people have unrealistic price expectations.
- 5:56In that case, we need to educate them so that they know what's
- 5:58up, especially when it comes to, you know, all this feminine
- 6:01stuff. Because like someone like me,
- 6:03now I can look at let's say hair, for instance, and I'll say
- 6:06like, why should this one cost, you know, 300K?
- 6:08And by the time they explain to me, OK, this one is genuine
- 6:10human hair gotten from the heads of somebody in Bangladesh, but
- 6:14then this other one is darling yaki.
- 6:15And Darling Yaki can be manufactured by refining Petro
- 6:19chemicals that can be done, you know, cheaply in Port Harcourt.
- 6:21You know, then, you know, even even if I can't see the
- 6:24difference, at least from a business perspective, I can
- 6:29understand why one is more expensive than the other.
- 6:32Because for the other one, you actually have to go to
- 6:33Bangladesh and shave somebody's head and then knit it together
- 6:36into a skull cap and then sell as human hair.
- 6:38While the other one, all you have to just travel down to pH
- 6:41and then buy from the suppliers who are making Darling Yaki
- 6:44because they're refining Petro chemical products.
- 6:48Now by the way, I'm not in the feminine beauty space, so I do
- 6:53not know how these things are made.
- 6:54This was me just freestyling. So if you're involved in this
- 6:56industry, then please connect with me.
- 6:59Like I said, give my phone number earlier.
- 7:01The number is 08064662140. So connect with me, let me know.
- 7:08It'll be nice to let us know what are the factors that affect
- 7:12the quality and the price of these sorts of things.
- 7:14So just educate me so I can also educate other members of the
- 7:18community. Apart from that, if you're able
- 7:21to educate other members of the community and you guys start
- 7:24thinking in terms of what the value proposition is, then it
- 7:27will make it a whole lot easier to start educating people once
- 7:31you start asking them some questions.
- 7:32So remember, first of all, agree and then empathize.
- 7:35Next, ask a couple of questions because we want to be sure that
- 7:39people have realistic price expectations in the 1st place
- 7:43and that they have a firm grasp of price versus value because,
- 7:47you know, it depends. And then we also want to make
- 7:52sure that people are comparing us accurately because sometimes
- 7:55somebody comes and says that for what?
- 7:57You're too expensive, but meanwhile the person is
- 8:00comparing you to something, but you know, on the face of it
- 8:03looks like you're equal. But by the time you ask
- 8:05questions, you realize like there's no comparison
- 8:07whatsoever. This is something that I see EBO
- 8:10traders do very well, like people in the builders market in
- 8:14Abuja here off of a Gudu junction.
- 8:16It's something that they do very well.
- 8:18You can go and you can try to price roofing sheets, for
- 8:21instance. And the person tells you that
- 8:24it's, let me just guess, I can't remember the actual price
- 8:28because it's been a long time since I went to builders market.
- 8:30So the person can tell you that maybe it's 200K per square meter
- 8:33or something. And then the other person says
- 8:36like how now, OK, Chuku said he'll give me at 85 K per square
- 8:40meter, you know, But by the time he asks a couple of questions,
- 8:44by the time the trader asks you a couple of questions, say 85,
- 8:46that's a good price now, then, then take it now.
- 8:48But in fact, but before you go self, that 85 per square meter,
- 8:53is it is he from China, he's getting it or is he from
- 8:57Switzerland? Personnel asked China,
- 9:00Switzerland, what's the difference?
- 9:01Now the EBO trader, EBO trader, now start educating the person.
- 9:05Nah, that is a difference. Now that the one from China is
- 9:07made with something, something coating.
- 9:09The one from Switzerland is made with something coating because
- 9:12of the way that our sunshine is. It actually is better if you get
- 9:14that one from Switzerland because at least that one
- 9:17because of the way that we made it is made.
- 9:19We are able to give you 100 years guarantee.
- 9:22But that one that is based in China and this kind of coating,
- 9:24we don't expect nothing to last long.
- 9:26Worst case scenario will give you like five years guarantee,
- 9:29the person like five years guarantee.
- 9:31So you see that's how the EBO traders, that's how they use
- 9:34this thing very well. They ask you a couple of
- 9:36questions because on the face of it, you're trying to make a very
- 9:42simple comparison. Like you, you're saying 200K per
- 9:44square meter. These other persons say 85K per
- 9:47square meter. Well, by the time they ask some
- 9:48questions and they educate you, like look, the reason why this
- 9:50guy is saying 85K per per square meter is because he's selling
- 9:56the China version. And in fact, if you're OK with
- 9:58the China version, come and buy it.
- 9:59I have the China version in my shop.
- 10:01In fact, instead of giving it to you at 85, I'll give it to you
- 10:04at 84500. You know, something like that.
- 10:08But they go into this whole education process like, oh,
- 10:11which one? Are you sure?
- 10:13Is this or this the reason why it is like this is like this is
- 10:17because of that. And this is how it affects the
- 10:19price. This is how it affects quality.
- 10:20This is how it affects warranty. So this is something that our
- 10:23EBO brothers in these sorts of industries, you know, in the
- 10:26building space, they use this technique very well.
- 10:29And it's something that those of you in the beauty and skin care
- 10:32space can do as well. I agree and empathize.
- 10:35Then ask them a couple of questions.
- 10:36You even want to know. Was the understanding of price?
- 10:39Was the understanding of value? Is the comparison accurate?
- 10:42And another reason why I should ask is because sometimes the
- 10:45reason why people are shouting is just because they don't have
- 10:48all the cash right now. So for some people, payment
- 10:51terms actually will solve the problem.
- 10:53Some people will shout like 65K and you might think, OK, they
- 10:58need a discount and then you start running into discount.
- 11:01But actually they would be fine if you just offer payment terms.
- 11:04OK, you know what 65K is it that is too expensive.
- 11:07I mean, you don't have 65K now this is no honestly, I don't
- 11:10have 65K with me now. When I came here, I was thinking
- 11:12that 35K will settle it and then you can do payment times like
- 11:16OK, so if you drop 35K now, when can you bring the remaining 30K?
- 11:21And then you have you have that conversation.
- 11:24Although for me, I'm not a fan of, you know, when it's physical
- 11:27products, but anyway, you know, when it comes to feminine
- 11:32products, you know, the, the, the conventions are different.
- 11:36So they're used to doing business like that.
- 11:38And you know, these partial kinds of credit, like, OK, you
- 11:42bought clothes and you bought clothes worth 400K, but right
- 11:46now you only have, you know, 320 K.
- 11:49So you transfer 320 now and then when you get next month's
- 11:52salary, you now pay 80 and then stuff like that.
- 11:55But if you must do that, just remember to keep your records
- 11:57and know that you have to be chasing people to get your
- 11:59money. But generally, this is the
- 12:03general approach #1 agree and empathize #2 ask some questions.
- 12:07You need to gain some clarity here.
- 12:10Are their price expectations correct?
- 12:13What is their sense of price versus value?
- 12:16Are they making an accurate comparison?
- 12:18And then is it amount of payment terms and cash flow?
- 12:21So one week that I have done this in the past, when somebody
- 12:24says you're too expensive, I say, you know, I just agree.
- 12:27I say, yeah, yeah, we're expensive, but expensive
- 12:29compared to. And then I leave it hanging
- 12:32because I'm trying to get a sense of what actually I'm being
- 12:35compared to. Or back in my wedding
- 12:38photography days, whenever somebody came at me with a
- 12:41ridiculous figure, I'll just laugh and say, OK, it's obvious
- 12:44I'm the first vendor you're talking to, right?
- 12:46And then just keep quiet and then hear what the person has to
- 12:49say. Because for the people who now
- 12:51say yes, actually you're the first person I'm talking to, I
- 12:53would now go ahead and educate them.
- 12:55OK? Look, based on what pertains in
- 12:58Abuja for wedding photography, there are like two or three
- 13:02classes of wedding photographers from from you know, 100K to so
- 13:07you can expect to get certain kinds of people.
- 13:10If I pull up your Instagram, so you know, you see this guy, you
- 13:12see this guy, these are your 100 to 150 K kind of guys.
- 13:16And this is what you can expect to get from them.
- 13:18And then from this class, you know, 300 to so this is what you
- 13:22can expect. And in fact, this is where I
- 13:24fall in. So look at my Instagram handle.
- 13:26Let's pull up a few others. You know, you see, this is the
- 13:30class, this is what you can expect.
- 13:31And then there's those other people who charge, you know,
- 13:34like 700K and above and this and this is exactly these.
- 13:38And these are the kind of things that you can expect.
- 13:41So you don't have to do business with me, but just go ahead and
- 13:44talk to some other people and you'll find that what I've given
- 13:46you is an accurately of the land.
- 13:48You can expect to do from 1:50 to 2:50.
- 13:51You can expect to talk some people from 3:50 to 607 hundred
- 13:55and you can expect to talk to some people from 700 and above.
- 13:58And this is what you'll expect. So why don't you just go talk to
- 14:02a couple more people and then let's talk about this again in
- 14:04another 2-3 days. So that's how I used to use the
- 14:09education thing back when I was still in wedding photography.
- 14:12You know, I just laugh it off and say, look, it's obvious I'm
- 14:14the first vendor that you're talking to.
- 14:16And typically that will be the case because it was not uncommon
- 14:20for someone to maybe her older sister got married, you know,
- 14:24like 3 or 4 years ago. And so she's using the price of
- 14:27three or four years ago to now judge the vendors that she's
- 14:30talking with today. So those sorts of things happen.
- 14:33So expensive compared to, or am I the first vendor You're
- 14:37talking to all those sorts of things, but you just have to ask
- 14:41a couple of questions. Now for the technique that our
- 14:46IBO brothers use who are in the building space.
- 14:50By the way, I'm not trying to stereotype IBO boys here.
- 14:53I'm just talking about IBO brothers and sisters who are in
- 14:56a particular industry, you know, the, the building industry
- 15:03because back when Monzi was still working on her house and
- 15:07some relatives were building some stuff back then, instead of
- 15:13buying things in Macudi, the scope was that you could get
- 15:15higher quality materials in Abuja.
- 15:17So I was spending a lot of time in the builders market then
- 15:20buying, helping relatives buy stuff.
- 15:23And that's when I got to see some of these things in action,
- 15:25you know, because of my own interest in sales and business
- 15:27development. I'm just there and I'm listening
- 15:29and I'm watching and I can pick out the the techniques that
- 15:32these people are that these people are who are using.
- 15:37So somebody says back to now, beauty and skin care person says
- 15:4365K for what? Indistinible economy, you know,
- 15:46you just agree and possess my sister now.
- 15:49So we say I'm Oh yes, you know, nowadays these things are very,
- 15:53very, these things are very, very expensive.
- 15:55But then you ask a couple of questions because you're trying
- 15:57to figure out who are they comparing you to?
- 16:01So you can ask, OK, have you found this thing cheaper?
- 16:04And then they say, yes, no, I saw it now I'm not coming from
- 16:06chemical shop. And this one that you're saying
- 16:0965 Cami was selling it at 45. Then you can now start asking
- 16:13more questions and do the education thing.
- 16:16You say, OK, so the one that Cami was selling, is it organic
- 16:21or something, something and personal ask is not all the same
- 16:24which one is organic or inorganic?
- 16:26Now you go into the educational thing.
- 16:28If it is organic, we're using natural tomato and purple to
- 16:32derive our vitamin A Something something, it is not industrial
- 16:35something something because if you use the China industrial
- 16:38something, the way the thing will burn your skin when you
- 16:41enter into the sun, the way your skin will do, your skin will do
- 16:44like this. Your skin will do like that.
- 16:46But if you're using the organic one that is made from natural
- 16:49purple and natural tomato, the thing will just bring out your
- 16:52real color, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 16:54You know, all that education jazz.
- 16:56So you can now have that kind of conversation and now opens up
- 16:59the person's eyes to oh, OK, this one that I'm looking at for
- 17:02the 5K and the one that, sorry, 65K and the one that kept me is
- 17:06selling 45 K. Even though the bottle looks
- 17:09similar and the on the face of it, the, the name seems to be
- 17:14the same, but there actually is a difference.
- 17:17Then you go about doing the education.
- 17:19So sometimes the education is going to be around quality.
- 17:26Yeah, around quality. Organic or inorganic education
- 17:31could be around meals that's around them size.
- 17:35Because for those of us who are uneducated, they actually is a
- 17:38difference. Because like for me, since I'm
- 17:40not really a perfume person, my wife is a perfume person, you
- 17:42look at 1 bottle, you look at another bottle and they say well
- 17:44this one is 150 K, the other one is 80 K.
- 17:50You know, for me as a layman, I just say let's carry the one
- 17:52that is 80 K. Now that's the way I would look
- 17:54at it. But then my wife would now say
- 17:55no, no, no, no, no. Actually, now one is 100 and
- 17:58something is 165 meals, but this sort of one that is 80 K
- 18:02actually is only 86 mills. So if you do the conversion and
- 18:06everything, you will now see that this one that is 86 mills
- 18:08that they're selling for 80K actually is more expensive, you
- 18:11know, blah, blah, blah. Because for some of us who are
- 18:14novices, you just go there, you see a bottle and you know, the
- 18:18bottles look like it's the same size.
- 18:19Because after all the difference for those of us who are
- 18:22untrained, the difference between 120 mills and 105 mills
- 18:27doesn't look like a big thing. The bottle does look like it's
- 18:29the same, but for people who know what's up or people who
- 18:33have been educated, the actually is a difference.
- 18:34We can have that conversation about quality, about meals, you
- 18:38know, how many meals is it? Let's see what else.
- 18:43OK. And then also the conversation
- 18:44around brand premium. That's also an honest
- 18:47conversation to have. But yeah, my sister in this
- 18:50economy. But you know, that's just the
- 18:52way that we see it. This one that I'm selling to you
- 18:54now is authentic. Mary Kay.
- 18:56Something, something something, something something the one that
- 18:59Kami is selling to you is ABBA made, Nigeria made Makodi made
- 19:04Cameroonian made something something, something whatever.
- 19:07And unfortunately by the time this Mary Kay lands at custom,
- 19:11this is the docking price. So if this one is the docking
- 19:14price, how much you want me to put on top, that is going to be
- 19:16my profit. In fact, my sister, this price
- 19:19that I'm giving yourself is a giveaway price because this one
- 19:22I'm only making 10K on top. You know, help me open market.
- 19:25You know that all those, you don't have all those things that
- 19:29people say so you can have those honest conversations about brand
- 19:33premium because it's something that I have been exposed to
- 19:38recently. We had to buy some when the kids
- 19:40are going back to school, you know, buy school bag, buy these,
- 19:43buy that. So those are some of those
- 19:44conversations that we've been having.
- 19:46That's for parents who it matters to those sorts of
- 19:49things. Although for me, when it came to
- 19:50the shoes, like I couldn't be bothered, like UK shoes, Niger
- 19:53shoes, you know, I don't give a hoot, just give me shoes.
- 19:56This one looks like it'll work, so let me have it.
- 19:59But yes, you can have those conversations as well.
- 20:03So let's see, have I covered everything?
- 20:09You know what, this is just a general approach you take.
- 20:10Basically somebody says you're too expensive, you start raising
- 20:13money things. I agree and empathize.
- 20:17Let them know that. Excuse me, that they're being
- 20:20reasonable and that they're trying to get value for money,
- 20:23but ask them some questions. You want to be sure that they're
- 20:26comparing you accurately to another thing.
- 20:30In fact, this is one reason why we should ask questions about
- 20:33the accurate comparison because we're actually doing it to
- 20:36protect our customers. Some of you just think, and this
- 20:39is too expensive, chemi selling it at 20 K cheaper.
- 20:42They don't want to buy from chemi.
- 20:43No, if you know the value of what it is that you're selling,
- 20:48and if you know that you have a superior product, you can't
- 20:51force this lady to buy from you. But at the very least, you owe
- 20:55it to her to educate her so that when she's buying it, she's
- 20:57buying it with a very clear eye and that she knows the risks.
- 21:02That if you buy the real deal, you can continue with your life
- 21:06as normal, or you can enter us on you can jump, boss.
- 21:08You can do whatever. You'd be fine.
- 21:10But if you buy those cheap knockoffs that would destroy the
- 21:13epidemics of your skin, you won't be able to stand in the
- 21:16sun for more than 10 minutes because if you stay in the sun,
- 21:18your skin will just be red or you will just start looking
- 21:20green or whatever. So you owe it up to them.
- 21:24You owe it up to your customers to protect them and to make sure
- 21:27that they are well informed. If they have listened to your
- 21:30whole story and they say, you know what, let me just go and
- 21:33buy that 45 K-1 and you've done, you've done your best.
- 21:40But if they listen to you and they buy the good stuff from
- 21:44you, even if they don't buy the good stuff from you, let's say
- 21:45they go and buy from someplace else, at least you have done
- 21:48something to give genuine value to people who come by your
- 21:51store. So we actually owe it up to our
- 21:54customers to make sure that the comparisons that they're
- 21:56comparing us to other people want to be sure that it's it's,
- 22:02it's the same, it's the same comparison.
- 22:04The level of quality, the level of durability, whether it's
- 22:08warranty or whether it's whatever.
- 22:09We need to make sure that it's an exact comparison, but that's
- 22:14just a general approach. So agree and empathize.
- 22:16And that's a couple of questions.
- 22:18What is their sense of price? What is their sense of value?
- 22:21Are they comparing us to other people accurately?
- 22:23Why is this just a moment? Is this just something of
- 22:26payment terms? So, OK, 65, OK, but you came
- 22:32here with 35, so you now start talking about payment terms
- 22:36instead of dropping the discount.
- 22:42In fact, some of you might ask from an accounting point of view
- 22:45and it would depend on a case by case basis, you know, which is
- 22:47better to actually discount and then collect a lump sum now or
- 22:52to take flexible payment terms and then give credit and collect
- 22:55money later? OK, something I should research,
- 22:59but it's going to be on a case by case basis and it would
- 23:01depend on the industry which one is better to just collect big
- 23:05money. Now let's say you discount and
- 23:08you collect 98% of money now instead of this system, 100% of
- 23:12the price. But then they pay 50% now and
- 23:14then they owe you the other one and they paid maybe after two
- 23:17months or something. And the interesting
- 23:18conversation. Yeah, I'll talk to some
- 23:20accounting professionals about that and hear what their opinion
- 23:23is. But that's just a general
- 23:26approach. So that is all for today.
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- 23:52Thanks for your time and attention.
- 23:53I'll catch you guys at the next episode.