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Chaotic Bi Joy · To All the Men I've Tolerated Before

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  Speaker 1: Hey, teen tolerator, This is Nablee Katona with two all
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  Speaker 1: the men I've tolerated before. Clearly I'm not looking at
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  Speaker 1: my notes. This is to all the men I've tolerated before,
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  Speaker 1: with Navlee Katona, your weekly look at everyday misogyny Today.
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  Speaker 1: We are so lucky to have back to the show,
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  Speaker 1: Noel Cope. You will remember Noel from our episode on
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  Speaker 1: saffic relationships and how they're represented in film and media.
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  Speaker 1: She's back today to discuss the different ways misogyny affects
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  Speaker 1: her experience as a bisexual woman.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Noel.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited that I figured out a reason for
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  Speaker 1: us to reconnect and get you back on here.
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  Speaker 3: Always always what's new with you?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's actually been a great time since
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  Speaker 3: I've been on here last. I am doing so many things.
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  Speaker 3: My book is available all over the US at independent
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  Speaker 3: bookstores for those of you who did not hear the
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  Speaker 3: last episode. I wrote a collection of poetry called Notes
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  Speaker 3: from the in Between. It is a poetry recounting of
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  Speaker 3: my real life experience with intimate partner abuse, which My
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  Speaker 3: bisexuality and queer identity is woven throughout that book and
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  Speaker 3: is referenced within the poetry as far as how I
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  Speaker 3: handled being in that type of relationship and the misogyny
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  Speaker 3: within that and abuse. And it's also if there's any
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  Speaker 3: international listeners, it is available on almost all major international
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  Speaker 3: book sites and retailers as well, along with a couple
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  Speaker 3: of stores potentially in the UK will be carrying it
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  Speaker 3: soon knock on wood. And then as far as film
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  Speaker 3: and TV goes, things are slowly resuming after the strike,
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  Speaker 3: and I may have a very exciting project announcement coming
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  Speaker 3: soon and one that all of our lovely LGBTQ listeners
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  Speaker 3: will be very excited for, so keep an eye off
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 2: On my socials, listen, You're a great social follow I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I have.
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  Speaker 1: Really big anti energy as I get further and further
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  Speaker 1: into my thirties, where it's like, I'm just so proud
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  Speaker 1: of all of you. You all are just doing really great.
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  Speaker 1: You're putting on your little outfits, You're going to the
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  Speaker 1: little UH premieres and little parties and all of it.
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  Speaker 1: And you are one of my favorite follows because you
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  Speaker 1: are doing all of those things like you're always at
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  Speaker 1: an event. It's always the fanciest thing I've seen all week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I try so hard, Like I tried to film so
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  Speaker 3: many of those like Red Carpet get Ready with me,
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  Speaker 3: and they fail every time because instead there's just like
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  Speaker 3: like two minutes said, I'm going like, hi, here's me before,
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  Speaker 3: and the next thing I know in the video is
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  Speaker 3: like me at home. I'm like, I forgot to film
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  Speaker 3: any of it because I almost burn my apartment down.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how you know I'm.
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  Speaker 2: A bisexual chaotic bisexuality.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, exclusively, exclusively, I think Number one, I love that
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  Speaker 1: you try hard, because I think that our inability to
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  Speaker 1: be honest about how hard we try is also misogyny
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  Speaker 1: because men just like walk into rooms and they're like
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  Speaker 1: I own this building now, and we're like what and
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  Speaker 1: they're like I've taken over and you're all fired, and
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  Speaker 1: meanwhile we're just like, so, I did write this script.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's any good, but like I did,
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  Speaker 1: I did write it on the computer, and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to know. I don't like work hard on it
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  Speaker 1: or anything like it's real chill. This is me asking
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  Speaker 1: for notes on my script.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, no. Anytime I've gone any level of
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  Speaker 3: success and like people are always like, no, well, you're
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  Speaker 3: like going out personality, so from your like at home personality,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, when I go out, I channel my
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  Speaker 3: father straight up, Like no, like I'm not having a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody a little bit of my mom because my mom's
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  Speaker 3: a gorgeous, chaotic Hungarian woman. So I kind of merge
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  Speaker 3: the two. But no, my dad is a white well
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  Speaker 3: mostly white, Gemini white passing. And so I go out
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  Speaker 3: with and him, and he's a producer and so he
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  Speaker 3: just walks up to anybody. He's like, hey, man, I
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  Speaker 3: really like this or blah blah blah, and there's no
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  Speaker 3: He's like, what are they gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: Tell me no.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you're right, you're right. What are they going
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  Speaker 3: to do telling you no? I guess that's not an option.
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  Speaker 3: But then like I go up to these events and
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  Speaker 3: I'll just walk up to anybody and be like, Hi,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a producer, Hello me, I wrote a book. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just like, uh yeah, I'll just walk up to
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  Speaker 1: people and be like hello, I've been writing on my
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  Speaker 1: comedy journal.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like jokes? And people are like.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, lady, how how are you? I wrote a sitcom.
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  Speaker 1: My uncle told me that writing is he listened to
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  Speaker 1: an NPR. This is a true story from this past
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  Speaker 1: week nd my uncle. I told my uncle that I
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  Speaker 1: officially finish a script, which is something I've never done,
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  Speaker 1: because that's scary. What do you do when it's done,
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  Speaker 1: when it's out of your brain? And my uncle has
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  Speaker 1: always read and or listened to something that has to
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  Speaker 1: do with anything I could be talking about. And he
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  Speaker 1: looked at me and went, well that I recently read
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  Speaker 1: this book. I don't know if you ran into it,
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  Speaker 1: but one of the central themes of one of the
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  Speaker 1: big players in the book is that writing in it
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  Speaker 1: of itself is a torturous process that you definitely never
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  Speaker 1: want to be doing, but you have to do because
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  Speaker 1: you're a writer, and it's awful and you hate it
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  Speaker 1: and it's and I'm like, are you.
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  Speaker 2: Proud of me? Are you confused by me? What kind
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  Speaker 2: of At the.
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  Speaker 3: Same time, he is saying the most real thing I've heard,
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  Speaker 3: and like, like in a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm sharing with him my weird writing ritual, which
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  Speaker 1: is I put an hour on my timer and then
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  Speaker 1: I type, and then I go out. I'm done, Tye,
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  Speaker 1: And I paused the timer and I go and put
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  Speaker 1: laundry away, and then I'm like, I could type again,
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  Speaker 1: and I hit play on the timer because the entire
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  Speaker 1: time I've been folding laundry, I'm like, and then the
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  Speaker 1: person will say this, and then we'll go into this.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, so I technically write to one
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  Speaker 1: to four hours every day because of my nice little
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  Speaker 1: timer situation, but officially it is one hour.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, that's a great, great way to hold
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  Speaker 3: yourself accountable, because I'm I'm notorious for doing the thing
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  Speaker 3: where I sit down, I go, hmm, I do this too.
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  Speaker 3: Stop and then like a long time will past. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: well I tried.
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  Speaker 1: I really did that, now, Dann, And I like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I held a pen in my pocket all day long.
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  Speaker 1: I am a writer and that's as far as I got.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, Love is blind dropped? What
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  Speaker 1: am I doing?
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  Speaker 3: Dude? The chokes? Love is blind as on me every
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  Speaker 3: year every year. I'm like, this is it. I'm done.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the first episode and then I get hung
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  Speaker 3: up again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Well and this season is fantastic and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it offline, online whatever, because yeah, yeah, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But here's my question. This goes great into the
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  Speaker 3: segway where we're talking about today. Yes, so, if love
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  Speaker 3: is blind, why are there no bisexuals on the show? Exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Why can't Why can the bisexual contestants not
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  Speaker 3: speak to both men and women? I get it's because
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  Speaker 3: they're like in the living situation together, But plot twist,
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  Speaker 3: maybe we change the living situation, create a third dormitory
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  Speaker 3: and allow the by like the bisexuals to like do
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  Speaker 3: it or we do like room buddies or something.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we do the circle I don't know, what's that?
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  Speaker 1: What are we doing with that circle building on the
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  Speaker 1: off season?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, there has to be some way because
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  Speaker 3: I would be so interested in watching the conflict between
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  Speaker 3: having to choose between a man and a woman and
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  Speaker 3: the difference in how they flirt and communicate and handle things,
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  Speaker 3: because so many times the pods are such a disappointment
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  Speaker 3: because I see so many of these women showing up
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  Speaker 3: and like, especially the women that I think have healed
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  Speaker 3: a lot of misogyny within themselves and ingrained sexism. They
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  Speaker 3: come in and they hold their ground and they do
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  Speaker 3: so well, and they navigate so much like gaslighting and
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  Speaker 3: bs that's thrown at them. Like one moment that stands
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  Speaker 3: out to me is when Taylor was talking about how
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  Speaker 3: she didn't want to reveal her race, and she did
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  Speaker 3: a great job of kind of like throwing that out
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  Speaker 3: there and kind of teasing it out to see how
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  Speaker 3: he responded. And he immediately called her cagey and that
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  Speaker 3: she was calculated and she was playing games, and that
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  Speaker 3: he had only dated white women because the initial terror
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  Speaker 3: in him that he was only talking to a woman
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  Speaker 3: who was not white, and all of her reasons for
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  Speaker 3: not disclosing that, especially for her own well being, were incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And like, I want to see, though, if Taylor was bisexual,
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  Speaker 3: is bisexual as Pam, how a woman would have reponded
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  Speaker 3: to that? Yeah, show me how a woman would have
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  Speaker 3: been interested and wanting to know if it affects if
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  Speaker 3: her culture without revealing how it affects her identity and
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  Speaker 3: her values or like all these other things. Whereas a
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  Speaker 3: man standing there going, well, if you're not white, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I want you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think He asked her if her parents were,
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  Speaker 2: like if she was first gen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he got there. He had a hissy fit first.
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  Speaker 1: He had the hissy fit first, but then he was like,
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  Speaker 1: are the immigrants. She's like, I'm not telling you anything,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, marry me.
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  Speaker 3: Though, yeah, insanity, but it's like that's why I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see I just want to see. Show
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  Speaker 3: me options, show me non binary people. Let's make this
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  Speaker 3: more interesting because every season we deal with the same thing,
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  Speaker 3: which is, oh, my god, man hates a woman because
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  Speaker 3: woman isn't what he thought she would look like.
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  Speaker 1: Right, which is just me swiping on Tinder like, I like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I like, give me body diversity,
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  Speaker 1: which they're technically trying give me, you know, the disability
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  Speaker 1: represent visibility representation. I like, I want all of it.
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  Speaker 1: The Queer Ultimatum series leads ahead and better than straight
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  Speaker 1: People Ultimatum, like, and people learn things from Queer Ultimatum,
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  Speaker 1: like speaking to one another.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think this comes back to
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  Speaker 3: so much of it is. It's amazing how no matter
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  Speaker 3: what member of the LGBT community you are, to some degree,
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  Speaker 3: in order to gain acceptance within your identity and step
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  Speaker 3: into the community, all these things you have to do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of soul work, and you have to do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of internalized leg work. And obviously it's very
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  Speaker 3: different for you know, very masculine presenting gay men, but
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  Speaker 3: nonetheless from the way that you know men will talk
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  Speaker 3: to other men and the whole concept of who wears
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  Speaker 3: the pants. Even within those dynamics, all those things require
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  Speaker 3: so much more work and internal work and kind of
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  Speaker 3: step outside the norms of society that you do end
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  Speaker 3: up being a far more interesting person to date because
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  Speaker 3: you're not focused on as much of the bullshit, the
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  Speaker 3: little bullshit and all those things. Sure they come up.
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  Speaker 3: We all have friends that are in different types of
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  Speaker 3: relationships where we look at them and go, isn't this
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  Speaker 3: argument beneath you? You guys are so good at ninety
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  Speaker 3: nine percent of the other relationship things. Why are socks
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  Speaker 3: breaking you? No? Seriously.
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  Speaker 1: A woman once told me that she was going to
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  Speaker 1: divorce her husband over towels and whether or not you
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  Speaker 1: get to use more than one towel while showering, like,
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm just supposed to do laundry
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  Speaker 1: day in and day out because you want three fresh
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  Speaker 1: towels every day. And I'm like, no, that's ridiculous. I
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  Speaker 1: believe it.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, let's just a minute, ninety nine percent of lesbians
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  Speaker 3: would go Okay. So if I built and handstained a
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  Speaker 3: new towel cabinet and then purchased additional towels for myself,
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  Speaker 3: and then I did the washing of these extra towels,
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  Speaker 3: that I also created a storage solution forte us as
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  Speaker 3: many towels as I wanted, and be like, yes, because
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  Speaker 3: you solved the problem. You addressed to your needs without inconvenience. Me.
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  Speaker 1: I follow those lesbians on TikTok. I hope they're doing
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  Speaker 1: really well with their cadio. Like I know them, we
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  Speaker 1: know them. We all have those lesbians on art tiktat.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I saw a lesbian the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it so much. She like is the one
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  Speaker 3: who went through like the whole I think it was
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  Speaker 3: like in Billy like crazy apartment situation. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: I saw her steaming this rug that her wife fell
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  Speaker 3: in love with, and she's like, I bought a rug
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  Speaker 3: steamer just for this because my wife is insisting that
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  Speaker 3: we keep this rug. But she also says it smells
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  Speaker 3: like mildew. And this whole saga of cleaning this rug
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  Speaker 3: and she rearranged the carpets in every room in their
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  Speaker 3: new living situation just to accommodate this like Facebook marketplace rug.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, and that's love, that's love.
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  Speaker 1: And I think every straight person, mostly because when I
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  Speaker 1: went to see Pros, I went with two women who
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  Speaker 1: present as pretty straight, like maybe things have changed, maybe not,
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  Speaker 1: But when we were going it was like I was
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  Speaker 1: baby gay and they I don't even know if I
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  Speaker 1: was baby gay yet I was like, I like gay
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  Speaker 1: people more than straight people, like Will and Grace still
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  Speaker 1: pretending to be straight.
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  Speaker 2: Like and I was watching Bros.
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  Speaker 1: Crying telling them things like you don't understand, like how
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  Speaker 1: important that dynamic is right there that he felt vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: enough to like, I'm like gay, explaining to the Straits
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  Speaker 1: why Bros. Is an emotional roller coaster of a comedy.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, straight people should have to watch this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I mean it's like and again, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's also where so much is like the like
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  Speaker 3: the bisexual, pan sexual, When you're just anything other than straight,
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  Speaker 3: it gets so confusing because the narrative and the media
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  Speaker 3: and the relationships that were modeled are so hyper specific,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I keep seeing these videos and I
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  Speaker 3: love them because they're so true, which is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of pant sexual women joking about the second that they
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  Speaker 3: see a strict couple putting each other down as flirting.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, she was saying not in a way.
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  Speaker 3: That's like She's like, it's clearly not like a kind
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  Speaker 3: of a cute, kinky thing, right, Yeah, it's definitely like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you guys actually hate each other a little bit, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: public shame is the only way you guys know how
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  Speaker 3: to resolve the other issue, because that's how you put
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  Speaker 3: pressure on each other. She's like, as a lesbian, she's like,
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  Speaker 3: I would only look at my girlfriend in public and
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  Speaker 3: be like, isn't she a goddess? I know you want her,
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  Speaker 3: but you can't have her because she leves me, And
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  Speaker 3: it's just like it's so different. And also when you
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  Speaker 3: don't just date street men, I feel like it can
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  Speaker 3: be very intimidating when you do go out on dates
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  Speaker 3: of those men because the standard and the bar and
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  Speaker 3: the expectations are so vastly different. And at times they
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  Speaker 3: will love it because you know, I'll sit there and
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  Speaker 3: I'm notorious. When I do date men, I will put
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  Speaker 3: a spending cap. I'm like, look, I love that you
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  Speaker 3: are successful and that you have money. It's not the
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  Speaker 3: reason I'm dating you, nor do I want it to
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  Speaker 3: be a easy band aid for anything we're experiencing. I
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  Speaker 3: will happily let you pay for things within a budget
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  Speaker 3: and a spending cap. And I also would love us
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  Speaker 3: to try to prioritize doing things that I could pay
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  Speaker 3: for at the end of the night if I decide
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  Speaker 3: I want to pay. And it's one of those things
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  Speaker 3: about like shifting the dynamic for me to be focused
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  Speaker 3: on our emotional connection and not on the financial ability
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  Speaker 3: to go through the motions of a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: You need to write a book.
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, you have no I'll tell me more.
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  Speaker 1: Like this one, like you need to write this one.
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  Speaker 1: I So the thing for me is is one of
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  Speaker 1: the big rainbow flags that I was probably you know
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  Speaker 1: I was straight for my twenties, but I wasn't giving
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  Speaker 1: it my all.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you just said about?
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  Speaker 1: Like I look at my girlfriend and I goes, she's
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  Speaker 1: a goddess and you can't have her because she loves
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  Speaker 1: me the most. That's how I feel about all my
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  Speaker 1: female friends. I go to the movies with my female
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  Speaker 1: friends and I'm like, look at my beautiful friends, where
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  Speaker 1: all women were all gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: These are all of my wives.
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  Speaker 1: I love them the most out of anyone I've ever loved,
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  Speaker 1: and I would never let you touch them. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of mad that you get to and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: is that normal?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's also just even like the flirting with that stuff,
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  Speaker 3: like when a woman says things to me, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: versus when a man says it, I'm like, the fucking
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  Speaker 3: audacity to lie on my sakes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you speaking to me? No?
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  Speaker 3: Literally, I had an instance where I was like at
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  Speaker 3: a party and this girl, like I came up to
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  Speaker 3: her afterwards. I was like, hi, just introducing myself because
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  Speaker 3: we're all friends with the same group of friends, and
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  Speaker 3: she looked at me, She's like Hi. She's like I
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: saw you across the room. You're beautiful. And I was like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: are you telling me I'm pretty? Are you flirting? What's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: happening right now? And it's like you know that thing
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: where you're just like, oh, no, it's happening, versus like
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: if a man said that to me and be like,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: why were you watching me?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Ew ough Yeah, I'd be like CAUSEY said what Yeah,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I go for it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna say, which is like I
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: do think is sad, because I do think there's genuinely
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: world where there is some like very very sweet, very
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: wonderful men that are pan sexual that truly would say
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and mean that because they've also divested so much from
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: misogyny and from the patriarchy that they are in a
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: different place with emotions and intention and dating. But that
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: guy is like literally one in seven billion.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you yell, if you yell at them first,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: if you go ew gross man talking and they don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: yell back, then you're like, oh, not an insult, this
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: was nice.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I'm at least saying you have to vet them.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You have to you have to say, you know, to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: at least five things to see like how they're doing
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I mean again, this is also I'm
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the girl that sat on a first date where the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: guy spent almost the whole day trying to pressure me
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: into making an only fans Oh cute m and you know, nothing,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I said dissuade him.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And like here's the thing, Like maybe you had already
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: drafted up your business plan and you just didn't need
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: his input.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Or My thing is I don't like a man telling
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: me what I should do for income. Exactly, he could
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: have been telling me I should be a nurse, I'd
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: say fuck you. Fuck you.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: When I was laid off from my theater job right
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: after the quarantine while the quarantine was going on, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the guy I was saying looked at me and went, well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: there's always teaching to fall back on. And I try
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to explain to him that, like teacher, namily is not
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a fun namily. She's miserable, she's usually manic. She'll stay
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: out all night long just to prove that she can
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: because like, fuck school and fuck those kids. Like she's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: not fun no, and I'm not going back to her.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it makes me think of throwing up every
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: time someone's like, why don't you just get your sub license?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And then it's still all on you and I'm like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: but is it e. I don't like her. I feel
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like I've healed her and she's been put to bed.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But he was like, so, well, you need a job,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and I was like, the theater is going to ask
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: for me back as soon as.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: All of this is over, which was also a lie.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: It's okay, he didn't earn the truth.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: He earned the truth. Like it was a lie.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I was telling myself, and I told myself that lie
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: for two years. And that's my right as a chaotic
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: bisexual to just be like I'm lying to myself and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that's fine.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: No, it's also you're right as a creative chaotic bisexual
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: because I also I adore teachers. Teachers and incredible they
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: do the Lord's work. I would love to do what
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I can to support teachers in their mission. I know
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: for a fact I should never teach. And I know
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: this because one absolutely, no child should be subjected to
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: me in the morning. No child, No, you see like
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I am the type of bisexual and pan sexual where
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I sit within the maleficent realm. No child should see
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: that in the a m. Maybe after lunch. They need
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: two solid meals before they're interacting with that behavior from me. Okay, Like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: think of the children before you suggest that I be
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: a teacher.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I So we watch my nephew every Thursday, and he
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: gets here because my sister is a teacher. He gets
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: here at six, at six fifteen, and my sister was
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: laughing because she's like, namely just rolls out like she's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: come straight from bed. She's like, the pillow is still
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: attached to her face. Actually, her hair is everywhere. She's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in her pajamas, her boobs are outside of her T shirt,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and she's just like one up neighbors and she takes
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: my child in that state, and she's.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Like, because did you just roll out of bed? And
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I go, I set that alarm.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: For fifteen minutes before I know you're arriving and you're welcome.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't care what. I don't care that I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: bringing down property value because that's how I roll out
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of this house every day.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: You know what property value is too high in America.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We actually need to bring it down. You're saving the economy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You're saving the economy. I do mean this and everyday hero.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And then she's like and then I come and pick
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: them up and Nable still looks like that. I go,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: who am I showering for? I'm with your infant all
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: day like we're just watching blue Ee.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: No exactly, No, I love this. There's this one mom.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I adore her. She's my next door neighbor. And I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: help her out with her daughter sometimes because entertainment work
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: gives you an incredibly bizarre schedule. Yes, and I loved
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: it because one time she was like explaining like the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: meal planning for her daughter for the day, and it
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: was very simple because she's just like, I have it
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: all prepared. She's a picky eater. I was like, great.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: And the thing that cracked me up and where I
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: really loved this mom is the mom looked at me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: She's like, so I made her these many muffins. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: was like, okay. She's like, she's gonna want to eat
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: those first. I was like okay, and she's like and
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: then it's gonna be like two hours before she has breakfast.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I was like okay, and she got really honest with me.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: She's like, she might not eat the mini muffins. She
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: might want a Hawaiian roll. And I was like, okay.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: She's like, you see, I.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Accidentally got her started on eating Hawaiian rules for breakfast
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: because I would wake up I just couldn't take her food.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I needed to give her something, so I just started
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: giving her like little skits and rolls in the morning.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, you're just like me, Yeah, yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: what do you mean at six am? I just woke up.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'm expected to give a child food like I need
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: to cook at eggs? What No, it's getting a Hawaiian roll.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: You're a genius. Thank you for that idea.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You're a hero. If that woman's listening, you're a hero.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You've got out to jade. You've never done anything wrong
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in your entire life.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: We all love Hawaiian rolls.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: It's fine. Every little girl should start her day with
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: a little treat. Okay, with a little treat.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I number one, like, of course she has weird food stuff.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: All the hot girls do. Like we all have ibs,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Have one friend. We will we will just periodically just
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to each other. We're like, so do you want Italian tonight?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: And we go to this little hole in the wall
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Italian place, and the only other people that go there
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: are seventy five years old, and the waiters, like the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: whole white staff knows us. They know our order. It's
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: like a joke that they even handles the menu at
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: this point because we always order one of two things
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and we love it. And we sit there and we
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: don't even properly talk. What we do is one person
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: goes for fifteen minutes while the other person eats their pasta,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: then reverst the other person eats and the other girl
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: we just yet It's true, yapping, It is like sending
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: voice memos to each other, but we're in person with
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: food in front of us.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: That's feminism. It's fourth wave feminism, is what it is.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I I'm trying.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: To seguey back to the bisexuality of it all. Oh
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: what I was about to just say?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It does help that we are, you know, queer, So yeah, no,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And like here's the thing, I don't know.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: When you're queer, you get to do stuff like that
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and it's fine. I don't just know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: What what happened is you said the rules the rules,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: because the rule thing, the rules don't want me to
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: exist as my authentic self. Therefore I don't take them
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: seriously anymore. Now. Moral beliefs, my core values, those can
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: exist because those aren't determined by the patriarchy. Those are
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: determined by love and the concept of being a good person.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: But not under the terms of the whole idea that
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I was made from.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Like Adam's ripuie, I like here's the thing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I make up stupid rules all the time, and I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: get like very indignant about it, and I'm like, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: get to do this as some sort of queer woman.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, my love for Dave Bautista gay, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you can't tell me otherwise. Like, I love him, but
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it's a I love for him is rainbow.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It's the same for Papa Pascal, Major Pascal. My love
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: for him and Ryan Gosling rainbow. Tell me I'm wrong, no, And.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: The thing is, you said it, and I get it
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: because there are some people that I'm like, I look
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: at you, and I love you in a way that
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I assume a gay man loves you. And the reason
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like I can tap into that is because
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: it's the most to kins the way that a woman
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: loves a woman, except you're a man, and I'm aware
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: that you're a man.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Right Like, because I love all the soft parts of you.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't care that you were a former wrestler. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: care that you love pipples.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: And like, my fantasy with you is not actually involve
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: anything inherently sexual. It's like I love the idea of
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: curling up on a couch with you and watching you
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: explain something absurd to me, Well, I know you're wrong.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I want to teach Dave Pezisa how to French braid
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: my hair. And that's your love story.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And that's how I know it's gay, right, And that's.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Why I know Rainbow and I feel there's a comfortable sharing.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: A straight woman would say and be like, I love
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Dave Patista because I want him to drive me fast
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: in his car room room, yeah, versus like I could
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: understand that, like, for example, do I want Michelle Rodriguez
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to drive me fast in a car room? M less?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And that is that is also gay? Yeah, I'm like, yes,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: do I ever want a man to do that to meet?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe Lewis Hamilton. But aside from that, now, no, I.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Like the love that I have for Dave Fatista is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: so gay because it's truly like, I just want us
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to go have season a pipole.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It's a buddy cap Yeah, it's a funny, it's a
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: buddy movie.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a buddy movie. Which and here's the thing,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I think that my love for Dave Fatista is the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: only thing still qualifying me as a bisexual woman because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: my sister is having a second baby, and we were
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: talking about whether or not the first baby has realized that,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and I go, what if when we're talking about babies,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: he just assumes that I'm having one because I don't
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: have one yet. I go, or do you think he's thinking?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder who's having that baby? It can't be aunt nanny.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: She finds me and distasteful, like, what do you think
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: is going on in his head?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And places?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Just like I don't think anything's going on in his head,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and definitely not that. I was like, oh, okay, maybe
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: it's just going on in my head.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: No, that's that's the beautiful thing about children. Children actually,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: until they are quite a bit older, don't actually care
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: about anything other than their own needs, right, So he
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: honestly that's why he doesn't care about you bring down
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the property value.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't care.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: He's like, are you going to feed me? Are you
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: gonna play with me? Do I get bluey? Right? Every
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: everything's checked.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: That's the only reason he learned my name. In case
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Goldfish crackers, Like exactly the dude goldfish the choke hold
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: goldfish has on everyone, on everyone, And oh, here's a
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: great question to ask. Go for it. Okay, So as
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a queer woman, and like, let's say you're like a
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: queer Santa Claus, right, instead of putting out milk and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: cookies to summon you, what what would someone who wanted
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to summon Natalie have to put out?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's still a cookie Sunday, Like I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: love a tree. But if it's like representing my like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: bisexuality or queerness or whatever, like it's gonna be like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we're hey, I'm paying.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: To dye your hair purple again so it looks good again.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And here in chapel Rone tickets because I'm very upset
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that I didn't get to see Chapel Rone when she
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was cheap and not chapel Rone. Yeah yeah, no, I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: hear that, because now she's really popular and like causing
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the entire state of Kentucky to shut down, and I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: can't do it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: No, I hear it. Yeah again, I was really dumb.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: A lot of my friends saw her a lot in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the l like we're seeing, and I just always did
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: not make it out to the shows that she was on.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And now I'm like, I should have left my house.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah you should have, and look at us now, we're
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: fools and we're just like I won't go to the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Pink Bony club, but I do. What would you what
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: would be on your Christmas plate?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, first up, you want to summon
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: me a slice of Baker Square Oreo pie because that
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: it closed and I've been obsessed with that since I
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: was little. Yeah, I think that, like all, I've never
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: been able to find a breaker Square post two thousand
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: and eight recession. Wow, so I want that. Put that
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: on a plate for me. Honestly, that might just do
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: it for me. But if we're gonna lean super and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: super into the bisexuality thing, like I don't know, there's
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a lot, there's a lot that could get me. It's
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: not like it's like, oh it'd be hard. No, there's
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: many things like probably Nisa, like I was gonna say, honestly,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: but I'm a cheerleader. Yeah, that would summon me pretty
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: instantly death because oh my gosh, yes, basically saying that
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you will take me too and got us tickets for
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: any event at this community space called Junior High in
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: LA It is like my happy place. I love it
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and I don't make it out to as many of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the events as I want. Oh, museum tickets, Oh, museum tickets. Yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like that would be so much fun. Imagine a
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: cute museum day with two pretty girls and we recreate
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the poses in the painting, but as women come on,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: come on, yeah no.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I like again, you can get like are you gonna namly?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Don't worry.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I've written your new D and D character, so you
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: just get to assume the role. I've always wanted to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: just trust someone to write my own D and T character,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: so I could just show up like it was a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: casting call and be like, Okay, I'm her.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: No, it's like it's oh my gosh. It's just a
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: little things like that, Oh, tickets to like a drive
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: in it's my favorite movie. Oh yeah, oh oh, surprising
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: me with a book instead of flowers.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: We're going to like an anniversary screening of cry Baby
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and ignoring like where Johnny Depp.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Is now, Like yeah, exactly exactly, Oh I date to
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Hollywood forever, like just like, oh, we're going to the
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: cemetery for a picnic. Yes, yes, yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Oh ghost tour. We're doing a ghost tour ugh ah yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But also also I would be getting this again where
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a little too easy. I think. You tell me, hey,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: we're gonna go get milkshakes and animal style fries and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: sit in the parking lot and talk until it's like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: three am, and we watched the sunrise?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, do you know.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Those straight men have done that with me right up
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: until the point that we're sleeping together.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, why do you want to talk
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to me now?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, we used to do this when
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I had insomnia, so why has it changed now?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, Like I saw this like post online
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: one time that said the best part of being married,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: and I was like, this is something I want to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: print out and put on my vision board. It's like
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a Tumblr post, so it's probably not real, but I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: want it to be in my soul. And this person
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: was saying that the best part of being married is
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: by accident, this husband and wife both woke up and
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: they couldn't sleep, so they decided to just hang out
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: out and not sleep together. And I was like, that
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is what marriage was made for. That's what my cat do.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: If I'm gonna have to like like share a bed
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: with someone and like have to fight over the covers
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: every night, the rest of my life. I want to
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: be able two am to go. Hey, hey, I know
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: you're not asleep. You want to watch the newest Love
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: is Blind with me?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Or Love is Blind around the World. My mom just
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: recently told me that you have access to all of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the Love is Blind.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Dude, in all the countries.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Love is Blind Japan. That's what she said. No no, no, no,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: no no no no no no no no. That made
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: me cry every episode. There is one couple on there
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I have like, I cried every episode. Oh my god.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: They were so cute. They were like we gave them
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: a code name because they were a favorite couple. They
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: were so top here. They had a ship name. They
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: were called Sweet and Sour.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Cute.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Sweet and Sour made us cry every episode. I believe
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: in love because of Sweet and Sour. I follow Sweet
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: and Sour on Instagram and see the updates of their
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: lives and I'm like, love has to be real, Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: because of Quay and Sour. Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I once had a straight couple that made me believe
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in hetero noormative love to the point where I looked
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: at him at some point and I was like, someone
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in your family has to be closeted like I don't understand,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and like he was like, I think this is a compliment,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and I was like it is because you're just not
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: like you don't give me the ick. You're the only
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: one anyone else brings their straight boy friend around, and I'm.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Like, oh God, look at what he's wearing.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Hansel bringing the boyfriends around.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, Cavencil.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I have one friend I love. We have known each
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: other for ten years. I have never met any man.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: She's gated and that's how it should be. That's respectful.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: It is icy photos of him. I know enough about him.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I've never I have never ever had a hangout ruin
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: by him being there.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is how I talk about marriage. Now
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: They're like, there's a man who I talk a lot
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: about amongst friends. It's Lou Wilson from Dropout TV, in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: case anyone knows him, and I'll be like, I can't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: wait to marry Lou Wilson and people are like, yeah, okay,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: good for you, manifest that shit.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I go, And then I can't wait to.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Divorce him for Ashley Johnson from Critical Role, and they're like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: or I go, or.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: He's cool with everything.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, and this is the chaos that
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted all along, and that's mine and I manifest
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that every day.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Every day. I tell like, I.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Send a video and I'm like, look, it's my husband.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, there he is.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, and the woman, I'll leave him
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: for it, and they're like, that's also her.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: There she is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But they get it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: They get it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And Hillary Burton and Jeffrey Dean Morgan are the They're
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the polls of my bisexuality. They are the representation. Put
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: them on the platter to suffer, to summon me.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Just put a picture of them every time they're on
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Instagram or in a magazine or anything. Julia Washington, who's
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: on this podcast, gets a lot, gets a DM where
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, these two are the hottest people I've.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Ever seen stand next to one another.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Is that fair? Oh yeah, well that was like me
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: recently learning that, like Robmy Mallick and Emma Corn are dating,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yes, I see this.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, actually, correct, if they
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: can't have me, they should have each other. They should
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: have each other.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: The only time the only time I was on board
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: with rap Boy Summer was when it was Sabrina Carpenter
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and Sulburn. Then I was like, I like this, this,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: this is toxic in a way that I'm hot for.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: No, dude, the whole Barry Kyogan Sabrina Carpenter thing I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: was so there for. And again I was there for it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I support female musicians having a rap boy Summer because
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I know I'm going to get the greatest album of
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: my life. Why because you have to, like you have
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: to pay a toll for making us all endure that
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: there is some major compensation and reparations that must be
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: paid when you date a wrap away. Yeah, And I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: mean I also love a lot of Barry Kogan's work
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: as an artist. And I see it. I'm like, I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: see the vision, I see the like I you know
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: what I truly saw. I don't know if this is true.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's like an air sign. But what I
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: saw between them as I was like, this is a
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: very traditional earth sign chaotic water sign relationship. And I
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: was like, I support. It was a Watpad novel come
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: to life. It was I earned that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we all did.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Also, here's another figment of my bisexuality. Chris Pine in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: his My aunt always had a roommate silk pajamas. My
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: mother will send me photos of Chris Pine in his
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: silk pajamas and loafers because that's what he's wearing twenty
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: four hours a day now. And she'll be like, in
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his long, like raggedy hair, and she'll be like, what's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: wrong with Crispine now? And I'm like nothing, He's perfect.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: He's my prince. He's not Viking.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: No, literally, I I don't think I have words to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: describe my deep love of Crispine. And it started because one,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: he's just he's funny and he's beautiful. Like to meet
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: somebody who's like beautiful and funny, that's hard for man.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Women do it all the time effortlessly. But like I
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: was like, damn. And then I saw a single quote
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: from him and it just sold me on him because
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, you're not like the rest,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: which he said, I don't have time for sports, like
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: watching them, He's like, because I'm always reading my mom's
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: old book club picks. And I was like a man
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: who reads his middle aged mom's book club picks, a
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: man who's consuming the exact media I.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Need my love for Crispine is rainbow gay because of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the lesbian pajamas and that quote.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Okay and the end no he he for I think
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: so many bisexuals is the perfect specimen is because he
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: plans exactly what we love about everyone.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I Chrispied, if you're listening, and I know you are.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I love you, never changed.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I love number one. I love when my like.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Hollywood cuties become weirdos overnight and it's like we weren't
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: watching them closely enough and now all of a sudden,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: they're a weirdo. Dan Stevens has recently done it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, see I didn't keep up with him. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: watched Chris Pine pretty closely. And this is like so
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: embarrassing in Santa podcast because my dad and his dad
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: worked together. So I'm like very like, I'm always just
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: like anytime I hear anything about like Robert Pine, I'm like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: is Chris coming along? I was like, I need it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, my husband hasn't seen me in ages.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: My husband's never met me, but he doesn't need to
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: have clash. I'm always just like when my husband be there,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: and like it's gotten to the point now where my
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: mom's like isn't he kind of weird? I'm like, no,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: he's perfect.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: He's perfect. He's by perfect prince.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, I have to say honestly, my mom though,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: was so supportive, like people like other people make jokes
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: when they're in the room. They're like, isn't the age
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: gap intents? My Mom's like for Noel and Chris, no, no,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and like, thank you for supporting that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's perfect.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: If your dad would like to email his dad that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of him, I would love that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It's just like we just put the dads on it, right.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: My daughter's friend said on a hot mic that she
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was proud of your son. She really wanted him to know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and that she likes his jammis that he's wearing a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: street clothes.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Like I as you see as a Taurus. That makes
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: me love him more. I also want to leave my
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: home and my jammies always.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: When he when that one picture of him just like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: going loafer first and the camera shooting up from the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: loafer and the silk pajamos, I was like, yeah, put
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that on my bisexual platter to summon me.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see my And that's the thing. My bisexual power
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: is Chris Pine can be any iteration, but that photo
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: also works. And also Kate McKennon and if you really
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: want to go the extra mile, McKennon rapping and Hungarian. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: as a Hungarian girl. Yes, she's who I'm bringing home
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: to the village.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh who are my well? Hillary Burton? Oh and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Sophia Bush.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: My oh, my baby gay icon who also in her
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: thirties with I feel like I'm it by Dick and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: then found I'm here's what I'm waiting for. And because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like I'm a baby gay, I live in the Midwest,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I have no I truly do not know how to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: date women.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm just waiting.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, no woman does.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: No woman does.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm truly just waiting for the gay adoption agency
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to deliver me my soccer wife. I'm like, where's my
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: soccer player wife? Lennon got one, Sophia got one? Where's mine?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Where's mine? I feel like I'm as important, if not
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: more than those two, Like we're where's my soccer wife? Uh,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I'd watch soccer if my wife was playing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, that's like the funny thing again. I
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: like you because it's the whole Taylor swift thing. I'm like, God,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: she has got to be a stronger woman than me,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: because I could not go to that many NFL games
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't learn to I could, I could not
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: learn to care. I'm sorry, my whole my My grandfather
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: was like a quarterback. All this shit. I've dated sons
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: of NFL players. I cannot care. I live so close
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to the My connection to the NFL is too much
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: for me. I'm like, I cannot learn these rules. I
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: cannot give it up. But I think a Roman athlete
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: in any sport, I am learning everything. I will become
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a sports doctor to be able to dissect, like if
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I was dating any of those incredible gymnasts the way
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I was learned about g force and gravity to understand
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: the impacts of their flips and the beams.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: But I think it's also and here's the thing where
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: it all breaks down. I think it's very easy for
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: us to make these claims with women and are like
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: female crushes. Yeah, because female relationships are built so much
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: more in reciprocation.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Which is why I am drawn more.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: To them exactly. And it's like, because I will hear
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: so many guys and I like to listen to the
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: complaints of men because I think it's interesting and it
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: reveals a lot, and they'll be like, why is it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Women will have these outrageous things and say these outrageous
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: things about dating other women, but when it comes to men,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: like they have no interest in that. I'm like, well,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: because statistically speaking, we do anything for a man and
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: we're going to live to regret it. Yeah, we do
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: anything for a woman. And yes, even if she breaks
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: my heart runs me over with a truck, I still
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: have gone it is the best relationship I ever had. Yeah, Like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: the ending can be terrible, like it can be a
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: dumpster fire, but the relationship itself will have felt so
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: much more equitable. Again, there are exceptions to every rule here,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: but it's like still the general consensus compared to dating
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: men is that the relationship's going to have a much
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: better balance and payoff. So it's like, Yeah, I will
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: build her a shelf, I will make her food because
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: you know what, when I am sick and vomiting, she
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: will take care of me and she will not make
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: me feel like shit for it. She will complain. My
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: lesbian wife would never complain about taking my kids to
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: the pumpkin patch. Never, oh I hated them ever in
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: front of her, never, in front of.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Her, well, in front of my kids, in front of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: my cat. So my lens of the conversation that you
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: just had is from a woman who's just trying to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: figure this out.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And be like, how approached wee?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Is Like my initial.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Fear is like who cares?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Like I've disappointed so many men, and I've never cried
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: or batted in an eye at it or even thought
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: about it. I just went, yeah, you deserve to be
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: disappointed and moved on.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But to disappoint.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: A woman, I feel like I would just turn into
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a pillar of salt. I'd be like, I'm done here.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I've disappointed one woman. I don't deserve to live like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a statue and that's what I deserve. Like it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: so scary conceptualizing how because I craved that like deep
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: reciprocal relationship with women, And it's why I knew that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: dating men wasn't going to be it for me anymore,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, I've just never liked a dude as
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: much as I've liked any woman.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: That I've ever talked to.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so scary because I'm like I've also
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and I've said this before on the podcast, that I've
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: never dated authentically because you don't go authenticity first when
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: dating men. You never do, and you're trained not to no.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: And I think that was one of the things that
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I encountered really early on, because I became very aware
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: of my own sexuality very early on in life, regardless
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: of if I did or didn't pursue it, but a
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: lot of my early on experiences were with women first,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: and I think that that programmed me differently because for me,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I approach so many of these things from more of
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: an equal stance, and for example, while in interviews and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: these type of things, I'll often default like bisexual, pan
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: sexual for ease, I internally and at my core do
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: not use a label because I date individuals, and that's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: just something I've always aligned with. More is because for me,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: it's about regardless of so many elements, regardless of if
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: you present with masculine energy, feminine energy, regardless of anatomy,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: all these things, there are inherent things I'm attracted to
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: across men and women, and if you really like look
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: at the people, you'll kind of see that physically it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a very different level of things, but everyone that I've
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: dated or had crushes on all share core similarities in
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: who they are as people, and it's always things that
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: tend to align with my perception of the lifestyle we
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: would live, yeah, which is like I've discovered a big
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: thing for me with attractions. It's like I love the
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: idea of something hot and heavy and all of that
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and that, but what I really love is like the
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: fun moments of like imagination and play and all of
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: those things that come into it and kind of like
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: that like established intimacy. And so it's always been really
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: funny for me with dating because so many times, like
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: my weird like imposter syndrome or all these little things
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: will pop up in such a like person by person
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: way that'll make it very complicated, just like decode and
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: be like, so, why did that rejection hurt me more
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: than others? And it will always break down to these
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: weird things that I like didn't realize. And when you're young,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: you've got so much going on, and like everybody, especially
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: if you're a woman, everybody's telling you all the reasons
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: you should hate yourself. So when you get rejected, the
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: first thing is like, Oh, it hurt my feelings because
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm like, they don't think I'm pretty,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: And it's like, oh no, upon further review, that rejection
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: hurt because I actually been really vulnerable with them about
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: this part of me as like an actor or creative,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and then rejecting me didn't feel so much like they
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: rejected me based off of my appearance. That felt like
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: they rejected me because they didn't appreciate what I shared.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: And it's like, so all of that gets like so
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: much more complicated. But it can be very hard when
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: your friends are predominantly heterosexually dating to understand that these
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: rejections can be much deeper if you're pursuing people in
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: a different way, because you're not pursuing someone based off of, oh,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you're a guy and you're single. I'm a girl. I'm single,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: so I'm going to ask you out. Yeah, And when
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: you're not dating with these pretenses, you're not dating leading
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: anyone on. You instead date and you actually go actually
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: on this first date to see if we really have
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: something worth my time. I'm actually going to let at
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: least two freak flags fly. If you roll with it,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: we will continue dating, and people couldn't understand how a
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: date like that, And like, if I'm going on a
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: date with a guy, second date, I'm not wearing makeup
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: maybe Mas Scara. I'm like, I cannot be bothered. Why
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: if they're going to see me the next morning when
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I put makeup on my face tonight. No. Now, if
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I'm going out with my galpas and we're having a
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: fun night out, I am dressing I'm a performer, I
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: am dressing up. But on a date, I have such
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: a hard time because I'm like why. I don't want
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: them to like suddenly decide they're not attracted to me
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: because what they fell in love with versus like the
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: billboard poster of.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Me right or the natural Kardashian look that we've all perfected.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I'm like, screw that, you're actually gonna see
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: me with like fucking deranged. And I had one ex
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: that like, I got into his car one time after
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: having spent like a couple of days at his place
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and he had roommates, and I got on the car,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: flipped the little mirror down. I saw what I looked like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: and I was like why. I was like, I just
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: had a whole conversation through rights, why didn't you tell me?
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And he's like I thought it was intentional and I
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: was like, just don't look like this. She was like no,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: and so I had to sit there and explain to
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: him that no woman wants to have eyelinerer on only
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: one eye.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And like, and that's a really good rule. Is like
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: go make up second date because again back like this
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: whole idea of like what does it look like when
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I re enter the idea of naive let fallen in love?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, but this time, I want to do
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it authenticity first, like because I tried it when I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: was on fake Love is Blind back in Dayton and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it was all on zoom, and I was just like,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a witch, I love abortion, I'm a feminist.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: My cat is my soulmate.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I was just telling you only in all the freak
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: flags because I was talking to a b link zoom
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: screen and I was like, who.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Cares what I tell this person.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I would be so good on Love is blying, because like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: if I'm not seeing you, you don't exist, I'll say
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: anything like I would be so comical on Love is Blind.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I'd just be sitting there eating my Chicago Mix popcorn,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: just being like I don't know, and like my friend Annie,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: like she got to paint my nudes because I saw
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a TikTok where she was asking for nudes and I
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: sent them to her, and then that's ending up on Netflix.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean again, I joke with my friends
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: and I'll be like, it is a running gag. I'm
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: just like, you don't understand. I don't like God rejected me.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: My life is actually controlled by a staff of screenwriters,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: and every once in a while, too many of them
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: get the flu and call out, and so then there
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: is the there's the writer's assistant. She is twenty one
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: years old. Her writing credits and experience are what pad
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: and she gets to write an episode of my life.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: And for example, the last time that she got control
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: over the writer's room, I ended up working on Shaboozi
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: and Young Gravy. And there's a video somewhere of that happening. Okay,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: no one needs to see it, it doesn't need to exist.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: But it did happen. Why did it happen? I was
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: trying to rescue two of my friends, Okay, I didn't
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: realize that they were there voluntarily to get the free
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: drinks I didn't know. I'd also spent most of the
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: night babies and this other girl who was just like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: you know, needed babysitting. I didn't know her. She was
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: a stranger, but I did it right, and so you know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, no, this is screenwriter, And so I'm like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I know that I would be crazy ONLL Love is Blind,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: not because screenwriter would write that episode, but because I
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: would sit there and I would try to recount my
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: life and the players in it and how I end
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: up in these situations and be like, so, if you're
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: dating me, are you prepared for this? And if they
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: look at me and they're like, why do you make
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: these choices? And I say I don't. I just show
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: up and things happened. Yeah, no exactly, And honestly, I
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: think maybe that's why, like lifestyle is such a big
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: factor on who I crush on and like who I
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: choose to date. I'm like man woman and be anything
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: that your pronouns are like, can you go with whatever?
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: This is what pad girl does to my life.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I so I try to do it like the good
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: old authentic way where I was like I'll just say, well,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: fucking ever, it's a blink zooms and he was laughing
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and like follying back, And in my brain, I'm like,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: that means you're into it, because you're because I had
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: another guy get off when we all finally like met
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: in person after the quarantine or whatever, and he was like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: when you started saying that you have a personal relationship
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: with all of the animals at the Columbus Zoo and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you speak to them and they know your voice by
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: like and like you just go in there and you're
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: like hello, my friends, and they all come towards you.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: We talked in the men's room about how that's insane,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, so I was a
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: crazy one in the season.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I made it out in a couple. He must really
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like be considering where the I'm the crazy. And then
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: one day we were at a friend's house in his
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: pool and one of the guys from the Fake Love
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Is Blind told his former college roommate, I don't know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I was meeting one of his friends and I'm in
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the pool and they're outside of the pool and he goes,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is Nadley. She was so funny
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: on the show. We all loved her so much, so personal,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: so much personality, so many things to say, we love her,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and but like in a straight man way, however, a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: straight man would say all that, and the man that
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I'm letting penetrate me literally looks our mutual friend in
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the eye and goes. I thought we all decided that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Nadley was a whack job who we were surprised even
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: made it on the show. And I was like, I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: drowned myself. Now I'm just going to drown.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, And I was.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Like, so I asked him eventually. I was like, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: thought that you were like into all my weird shit,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and he's like, I thought you were doing a bit
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the entire time, and I was like, well I was,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: but all of my bits are in true life fashion,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Like you don't just get bits.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: I hate that, Yeah, saw Red that whole story. I
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: get with his friend because his friend at least seems
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: nice and enduring narratively Comparatively, No, that's terrible, But.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I also get it. I dated a guy like the
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: most serious relationship and I could not be funny with him.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I hate that. It was the most I mean, anyone
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: who's read my book is familiar with a lot of
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: this relationship, but it was one of the hardest components.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: So of course, you know, after the breakup, you date
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: a guy who you only laugh with, which is fantastic
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: by comparison. It's like, is there anything intellectual here at No,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: But I'm laughing the whole time, So that's a huge one.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: But no, I remember because it was just like any
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: time I would like even a little bit. And I'm
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: a chaotic bisexual, like, I'm sorry, And I'm not one
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: of those people. I'm not intentionally funny like I am
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: known for comedy in the la acting scene. Honey, it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: not I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just just
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Neither of my parents are neurotypical. My sister's nerdivergent.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Like I'm sorry, there's no I'm everyone I know is
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: part of the lgbtwo, like the Laquax, the Lacroix. Yeah,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be normal and like I was, I'm sorry.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I was raised by like a bunch of hippies, homeschooled
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: on the mountain side of Colorado. The society's expectations of
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: a woman did not touch me until it.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Was too late until it was too late.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna be weird. I'm gonna do weird voices
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: like oh my god. I'm known for like having a
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: slap happy hour, which is if I've been a week
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: too long, or I have not had enough food, or alternatively,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: I have slept too much and had too much food,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get weird. I'm gonna have an hour and
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: during that hour, over the last fifteen minutes to be
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: spent with me laughing till I'm in tears over a
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: joke that is so funny I can't even say it
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: out loud because I'm laughing. Yes, I actually think that
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: makes me one of the greatest people on the planet.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I it does.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Because I've also had people be like when I'm because
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I can tell when I'm trying to be funny and
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: when I'm not trying to be funny, and it kind
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: of hurts my feelings that I get the.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Most laughs when I'm not trying.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So one time someone did say, like, Manly, you're just
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: so funny because you say things like well, and that's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: how it is, and because I just say things like
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: they're absolute truth. I just went, yeah, it's probably the autism,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and then she laughed harder and wait, I don't think
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you're autistic. And I was like, all right, well, the
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: jury's still out. No one will diagnose. No one's taking
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: this brain on. They won't diagnose. At this point, I
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: just tell people, so, I have an undiagnosed brain. I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: know it has some of the letters, possibly all of them. Yeah,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: but no one's tackling it, let alone trying.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: To medicate it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: They'll only medicate my depression, which might also still be
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: my head. I'm not sure.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: No. Well, it cracks me because people always like, so
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: do you have I'm like, look, going to a DIVERGI
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: see I have or kind of the boring ones. I've
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: got synesthesia so I hear color, congratulations, and I am dyslexic,
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: so good fucking luck texting me. And so it's funny
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: because everybody everybody's like, but you seem I was like, oh, like,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I have memory issues and I've got a crazy personality.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I talked to that. I'm like, thanks, baby, that's trauma.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the trauma.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's the trauma.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, honestly, those are the letters that I have.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: The t R A U m A. That was a
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: real close one. I was like, do I know how
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: to spell trauma? I'm doing it on the mic.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: You know you're solucky. I would not have known I'm dyslexic.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: You're ready to get no support from me?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Right, You're just gonna be like, yeah, that's how Yeah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: That is there a second team? Maybe.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Recently, some man who knew things about money and was
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: trying to help me with mine, ask me what are
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: your money goals? And I had to tell my mom.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm not ignoring question. I just
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: have to like google what money goals are because I
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: don't have any, Like I have to ask.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Chat GPT what he meant, like, what are my goals?
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Chat GPT? Again, that's such a man thing to ask
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: what are your money goals? No, I don't want to
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: be asked that. I want to be asked like, on
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten, what type of blanket
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: you want on your bed? Like those kind of fluffy
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: ones are like a faux shirple.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: One, a cooling blanket?
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: No, exactly, like question weighted blanket, not weighted blanket.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing I think that I truly am asociopath.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Because I bought myself a cooling blanket because I was like,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I get so hot and now I use the cooling
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: blanket as a shield to the real comforter that's making
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: me warm.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: You know what. I can see the vision though, see it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think that's what bisexuality is, just wanting
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to be like somewhere lukewarm.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Like just you know. It's like the hard thing with
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: bisexuality that you always go back and forth between is
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: do I want to have everything or do I want
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: a mid level of everything? Like like oh, like you
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: just you just you're forever stuck in the cycle where
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: you feel you know what here it is. Bisexuality is
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: perpetually playing Goldilocks and the Three Bears but never finding
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: the little bear at.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: The right chair with the right porridge and the right
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: bed and the right bed.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Oh you never find it. That is a sexuality. You're
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: always going like mama bear, pop a bear. But it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: not right. Listen.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I hope at some point someone decoded the misogyny out
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: of this. I had bullet points where I was like,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: by erasure, that's misogyny, did you know, listener, that's yeah,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it's missa and here's the thing. I'm like, why am
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: my man's playing misogyny to people? Where I'm like, did
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you guys know that the reason why they won't believe
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: in by people is because of homophobia and misogyny?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: There are so many talking points about how like we
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: try to like why we don't have femme bisexual relationships
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: shown how that continuous argument of who wears the pants
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: is just patriarchy. Like I came in with so many
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: talking points and instead what I like, I feel like
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: we instead appreciated the joy of.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Being bisection, yes, which we hardly get to do of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: this show. Is it a like talk about the joy?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But like we also talked about it when we were
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: talking about saphic relationships and how it's like when you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: enter queer relationships, do you still end up with these
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: really weird societal pressures and to be like, well, which
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: one of you's the man? And it's like, well, we
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: took a survey and we decided that we didn't want one.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no exactly, And that's like the thing. And so
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: that's where I feel like this conversation is very funny
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: because aside from my couple like weird dating antidotes what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: it is. We just really got to enjoy actually being
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: bisexual and the fact that there's no easy answer for it.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: But what we didn't solve is how am I going
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to be brave about approaching women? And then you said
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you won't be because it's not a thing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's not. So here's the solution I've come
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: up with. Listen to this. Okay, it's called a wing woman.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Oh so I have not experienced a wing woman working
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: for me when it comes to to date before maybe maybe,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: but like it was with a man, so it doesn't count,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: like I can't I can't remember it. Okay, But I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: have learned also I should never be a wing woman
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: in a queer situation. I tried to wing woman for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: my friend and instead I ended up with the girl.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: So that was a little complicated. Bad on me, I
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: mean to some degree, like and not my intention. I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: can't help who she liked. I was her flavor. It
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: was a great time. We still talk. She wrote a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: fanfic about me. It was beautiful. Again, this is why
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: we love. But I've just learned wing women. It's kind
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: of the only way that my friends who go like
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: to lesbian only bars end up meeting other lesbians. Is
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: you have to have one friend who, because it's not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: their pussy on the line, will go up and do
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: it for you. They are also don't have to be
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: someone who would ever do it for themselves. They just
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: have to go. If Natalie doesn't get late tonight, I'm
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: going to walk into oncoming traffic. Therefore, I must make
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: this introduction happen. And that's the girl you take with
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: you and she. Alternatively, it could be a very a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: very great ally man. He could be a panman, a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: gay man himself, but you just need you need someone
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: who truly, truly feels that sense of the headlights coming
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: towards them if you do not get a woman's phone number.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: The other misogyny point that's a real mindfuck for me
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and keeps me off of dating is the I can't
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: get O. We're this like degrassy media like TV subpoint
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: point that like women who have been queer their entire
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: life do not want to train me.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: They're like em not you a baby.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: I feel like, and this is gonna be really controversial
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: hot take. I feel like there are people who are
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: the LGBTQ equivalent of a fuck boy. We're not interested
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: in that. What you need is a love connection. Yeah,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: that's what I want because I feel like again and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: maybe this is again my own projection. I truly think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: regardless of gender, gender identity, biology, any of that. If
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: someone that I truly was developing feelings for looked at
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: me and was like, hey, I am a virgin period, Like,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what type of sex, just any type
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: of sex. I am truly a virgin. The most I've
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: done is ever kissed, I'd be like, okay, so I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: get to train you to do it how I only
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: like it and you have to. But I think that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: thing is like you have to have and this is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: the thing. I think I could only do that though,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: with someone who's a good sense of humor and can
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: laugh at themselves, because we're not going to get through
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: that unless we can laugh at each other. For example,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: there was a guy. He did things his own way,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you're doing that fine, I prefer
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: it like this, And you know what, power to this man?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Truly powered to this man. You could tell he was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: like raised by a sister he and not in like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: an incest way. I need to clarify that raised by
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: sister in the sense of he knew how to take
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: notes from a woman in any situation, took the note,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: went home. Don't know how he studied, I don't care,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: came back not only did what I asked, embellished on
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: what I said my preference was executed it beautifully and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: was so happy, like a little puppy about it, because
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: like as soon as he was done, he was like,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: was it better? He's like, was it better? And it's like, yes,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: it was much better. Treat Yeah, I know exactly. It's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: like that's energy in the coupling that is necessary with it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: So it's about finding someone who's like, who's also looking
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: for for something meaningful, who wants to share in the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: fact that you would leave them for hair braiding with,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: you know, ba Batista, Ba Batista.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: When people ask me what my kink is and I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: literally have no idea, I go, I just like to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: laugh in bed, and I didn't realize that not everyone
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: likes to do that. Like people are like, why are
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: you always laughing? And I'm like, I'm having a fun time.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I thought we were having a fun time.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: No, I swear I'm one of those people. Again, maybe
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I'm crazy. The best experience, in my opinion, is and again,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: maybe it's because i'm a t toorus, maybe it's because
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I'm an artist, Maybe it's because i'm you know, outside
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: the realm of misogyny. I think the best is when
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: you spend a night with a partner and in a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: course of the night, you have had steamy sense, you've
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: had romantic sex, and you've had funny sex. I want
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: all three. I don't have like a little bit of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: all three in there. I don't think I'll have had
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: as good of an experience as I could, you know exactly.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: And the first time I'm with someone, I wanted to
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: be funny. I wanted to be a little bit of funny.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you like number one, Like, sex is weird.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: It's a little like, you know what, if you think
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: about it too hard, it's a little gross. And Craig
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Ferguson has like a whole stand up bit about it
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: that's phenomenal. Think about it. Two heard it's a little gross.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: One time I had sex with a man that I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: had done for six years, like and like I was
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: a grown up now. I had known him when I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't a grown up. We were having sex as grown ups,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: and he just kept boring his eye contact with me,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: directly into my eyes. I was like, we've never done this,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Like we've taken car rides, we've gone to movies, we've
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: held hands at stake in shake just as friends, like
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: we've never what stop looking at me?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: You weirdo? Like no laughing. I'm like, why aren't we laughing? No?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's there's just so many things. It's also like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: when you know, when you know someone emotionally so well, right,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: and then they see a part of your bid and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: they never seen before, Like they discover like a birthmark
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: and they'll be like, whoa where did that come from?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like I've had that since birth And they're like really,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, you know me up here in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: my brain. You don't know my body, Like hold up now,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: don't speak with that kind of authority. And it's like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: it's okay if it's funny, if there's like a joy
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: to it. If they're like, oh wait, you have a birthmark,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: like where did that come from? Cute? Adorable? I can
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: tell a funny ansidote. If they're like, where did that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: come from. I'm like, you do you think? Who do
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: you think you are? Antonio Banderaz? Get the fuck out
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: of here? Okay, put some boots, leap, yeah, ladies back on,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: good bye.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and people are like, only that's not normal
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: to be turned off by eye contact.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well I was. I was like,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: stop stop it.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm one of those people. I think
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: it's entirely possible to be turned off by quite literally
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: anything anything, if it's any and this is I'm like,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: it comes down to the person. I can have one
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: person do something and be like, m okay, never again learned.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I don't like that. I can have somebody else do it,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: or I'm like, you know what, for you, maybe we
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: can figure it out. I'm not saying I like it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's not gonna stop. What's already in motion.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like yeah, so like sex is weird
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to begin with. I love doing bits, Like I'm like,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't we do bits? We're always doing bits. It's
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: how I got you here to begin with.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: I had one friend tell me and I thought this
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: was the greatest thing ever. She's like, my boyfriend and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I don't role play, but we do improv our sex.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Love that that sounds amazing.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: You're playing Game Changer in the in the bedroom?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: What up?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Drop Out TV? I love that?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Oh literally? And again, I think and I think that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: also again because so many people that are part of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: the LGBTQ community, and so many pan and bisexual people
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: have already had to fight back from society telling them
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: that they are sexual or their attraction or their interests
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: or their pleasure is already so wrong just inherently that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: it has freed it up for so much more play
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: and fun and acceptance of foreplay. And you, especially when
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: you're not focused on purely penetrative sex, get to expand
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: the definition of sex to be so much more experience based,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: and inherently it is so much better then. And that's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: why I feel like there are so many people out
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: there for yourself, for anyone who's just starting to get
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: out there with It's like, look, you can find someone
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: who just wants to play, and it's okay if they
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: have to teach you the game. I just think a
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: lot of misogyny comes around and trying to tell us that, like,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't tell us. It just hypes up these
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: outlayer voices who for whatever reasons, and I think there's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of truth in speaking to like the I'm
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: burnt out, I don't want to be somebody's phase, because
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: it's about talking about not being taken advantage of and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: not being like, just because you had a shitty breakup,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: don't break my heart. And I think that that part
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: of it and that clarification is wonderful. Or I don't
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: want you to just use my body. I'm not going
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: to teach you all these things just for you to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: go back to your shitty acts, you know. Like, I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of fairness in that, because I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: think that there are a lot of people who I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: think are not always don't always lead with their heart
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: because again, they don't realize the difference in relationships outside
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: of the lens of misogyny, which is like, hey, don't
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: be unkind to someone just because you've only ever been
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: in unkind relationships.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Oh what what a line? Put it on a T
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: shirt like I number one. Now in our Dave Fatista
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: rom com there has to be a scene where they're
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: playing zip SAPs in the bedroom because now we're improving
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: in the bedroom. I want to be friends with your
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: friends with zip SAPs.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I have it like that's how I want every orgy
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: to start. Plea yes, zip STAPs.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: And you're just eliminating people. It's like, okay, you two
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: in the corner kissing. Yeah, no exactly, it's like that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: weird Listen the second hand embarrassment I got during Drive
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: by Dolls with the like basement makeout party but I love.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, is this a thing? And can I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: sign up?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Or is it only a thing with twenty somethings? Have
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I aged out?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Like okay, but hear me out. You're a writer, I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: feel like, if you haven't already, I want the Midwest
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: indie comedy about a bunch of women who later in
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: life are getting either back out on the dating scene
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: or are discovering that they want to start dating women
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: and they form like a lonely hearts club, but it's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: a basement makeout club for late bloomers. We have to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: write this. Wait, hear me out, guys.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Hear me out guys. Number one part of the reason.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: And now we're just talking about why I'm bad at
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: writing even though I'm good at it. I so I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: craved the writer's room. It sucks sitting down to write
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: something by yourself.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: That sucks.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like I had to come up with all of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: it and decide that the jokes are good.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: That sucks.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Where are the team of people to be like, you're
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: on to something? Their kid like?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's why I've almost I predominantly have worked
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: in like writing pairs like cornerships co writers. I why
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: why why me?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Why just me? Why just me?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: You spending time with me and with my own thoughts? Ah,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I hate it again.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: It goes back to the mprov in the bedroom, like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: I just want somebody. I just want somebody to play with.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I was a lonely child on the playground.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I was so lonely on the playground before the popular
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: girl at school, uh in third grade was like, why
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: don't you just come over here instead of singing your
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: weird little song over there? Oh, don't you just come
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: over here and hang out with bus? Because I was
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: pretty popular in school and I had the mentality of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: a lonely girl.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: You see, I was the opposite. I was theoretically despiping homeschool.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: It's semi popular because it was a small town but
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: I always opted to play on the swing by myself
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: because I was like, y'all are wow, I want to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: hear what's cooking up here? I was writing. I was
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: writing fan Fix on the swing set. I was like,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: leave me alone.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I would sit underneath the jungle gym I don't know
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: that dome thing, and I would make up new lyrics
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: to the Brandy Cinderella Roger Hammerstein's song in my own
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: little Corner, in my own little chair, and I would
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: just like rhyme India with things. I'm like, I'm not
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: rhyming now, I'm not doing it.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: But I would just sing. And finally the popular girl was.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, you with the weird song like you in
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: your drama, Why.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Don't you just come over here?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what but my one act show
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: that I doing for my beanie babies.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: No exactly, and you know what that is? Exactly how
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: you get a woman to fall up with you at
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: the bar?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I remind my one act baby song, So how
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I think that I'm going to get my love story?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: And maybe this can go into our new series about
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: the Women and the Lonely Hearts Club for women who
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: went to date women. We have in my hometown. It
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: hasn't opened yet, but one of the restaurants is also
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: doing like a.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Karaoke bar situation.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: But the theme of the karaoke bar is there are
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: animatronic Founding Fathers.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the face you should be making.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah at home listeners, I'm so beyond confused. Yeah,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: so is it the Founding Fathers? And this is so gaming?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Ask is it the Founding Fathers? And like a you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: got an American flag stick or on the back of
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: your truck or like in the Hamilton.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, way, I think it's to choose your own adventure
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: because they're just animatronics.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: I've got so many So is this eventually going to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: be five Nights of Freddy's but with the animatronics? Like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: I've is it Abraham Lincoln and Disneylan Like I've got
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: so many questions.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: We all have so many questions. Why won't they open
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: this up already so I can get in there? Because
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I think that the way I'll make my love connection
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: is when because I sing it every day to my nephew,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I perform perfectly Nope for No Pink Pony Club while
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: grinding on President Abraham Lincoln as because what.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Else am I supposed to?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm going to get kicked out of this bar.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also fun fact about me, it seems like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: maybe my ancestor was one of Abe Lincoln's boyfriends. Yeah,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: so I support the gay agenda because Abe Lincoln supported
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: my CAYR great grandfather.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: It's great trivia. You can look up Abraham Lincoln and
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Captain Fancher. Oh, you can get on Google. The Google
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: gives the like very heterosexual account of the story. But yeah,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: their family story always springles in a little bit more
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: because of Captain Fancher's letters to Lincoln. So enjoy that, historians.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to get kicked out of this
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: bar because I can't believe. I can't imagine that in
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Northwest Indiana they want me and my gay agenda coming
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: in and being like I'm mounting President Lincoln and singing
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Pink Pony Club and I brought boas for every one.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: I think, actually they should make you the manager.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't what did you think?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: And like when they try to kick me out because
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I'm being belligerent, I'm gonna be like, what did you
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: think was going to happen in the bar with the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: with robot uh tamas Jefferson and I'm not going to
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: sing Lizzo's uh yeah while humping President Jefferson. What did
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you think was gonna happen in this bar? I need
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: to know what were your plans? Because that's what I'm
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: gonna do.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't I ask you don't think
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: they had They didn't think about this, right?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: How did you know?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I mean? Also, hold up, imagine this. I hear all
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: of this, and I raise you. Imagine you singing on
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Holy Oh Wall while grinding on George Washington.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just like make a playlist and it's whatever
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm grinding on a founding father.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Like literally, oh, throw some Ricky Martin.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: In there, and like I'm doing like, hey, everyone, remember
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: when we all gave Riverdale a shot and Lily did
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: that really weird strip tease to sad World or whatever
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: that's Strange World or whatever that songs called.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Dude, she's such a queen.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: She's such a queen.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: But like we were all weirded out by it. I'm
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: doing that on a founding father.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Oh no, exactly. I was like she she said, Look,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: I don't get to make choices. I cash checks and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: support her for that. But what were they thinking?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: What were they thinking?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: And are girl through that?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Putting our girl through that with her mother in the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: room and a Sprouse twin. Well, this has been fantastic,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: always high brow information that I think we changed lives today.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: We changed my life today. You have we're doing. We're
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: doing trickle down economics, we're doing with change.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Listen, the next time I'm in La, I'm calling you,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: and the next time you're in Chicago, you're calling me.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: And the things that we'll get up to and we'll
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: livestream it or something I don't know. I'm always threatening
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: to live stream my life, like we'll just live stream it.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: No, we will, we will. We will go somewhere chaotic
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: in Chicago and we'll live it up. We'll start the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: night at Mary's Hamburger's. Yes.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: My favorite bit is when someone tells me like, so
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: this is super secret and I don't want you to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: tell anyone, and then I immediately go should I turn
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: off TikTok life? It's my favorite bit I get. I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone else's left because I do it all
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: the time. Whenever someone's like, so I wrote about this
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: person in my book, and I'm going to tell you
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: what their real name is. But I don't want you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: spreading this around. And I'm like, should I turn off TikTok?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Life?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Should I? I don't know?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: It was just add actually not only The plan was
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: that I don't know that they don't. Oh, I can't
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: get start for deformation?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Right? Should we turn it off now and restart it?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: And restart it? Okay?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Ban ahead, ahead, go ahead?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the Internet. The Internet brought Noel together.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: No I did.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: What do you think is the best message and or
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: lesson you could pass on to any woman who's questioning
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: her sexuality or is starting the time old tradition of
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: experimenting or whatever.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I think that the best thing to do is stop
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: listening to anybody else. You're going to get some good advice,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: but honestly a lot of what you're going to get
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: are things that are going to because we like to
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: problem solve, instead of hearing all the ways that it
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: could go right, you're going to hear every single bit
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: of advice somebody says, and hear how it could go wrong.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: And that's going to cause you more distress than if
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: you just give yourself permission to be exactly who you
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: are and that you don't have to know this whole
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: thing of percentage wise. You know, I don't care what
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: the statistics of the types of people I date are.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: I don't. I gave up caring. You don't have to
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: prove your sexuality to anyone but you. It is a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: lifelong journey. It does not go away. Other people's opinions
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: really really don't matter.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I so part of that, like fun trauma brain
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: that I have, the tr a uma brain is that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: when someone says something to me, like women don't want
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: to date women who didn't realize they didn't want to
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: date women until they were thirty five, that becomes a rule.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, oh yeah.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And like it's so dangerous that this is how my
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: brain is wired. And I know it's some sort of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: misogyny that I haven't like stumbled into about like why
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: my brain wired this way.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: But it could be a.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Rule from a show as stupid as Degrassy. Someone says
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: it on de Grassy, and my brain's like, and now
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: we can't do that anymore, Like and it'll be like
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: silly things like you don't eat that with cheese, and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you can't just put cheese on that.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you can put cheese on anything. If
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: you're trying hard enough, if you're finding the right cheese,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: you can do it.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: It's like that famous Tumblr post where it's like, I
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: paid this much in therapy to complain about how I
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: think my day starts off bad because I have to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: eat breakfast food for breakfast. In my therapist said, you
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: literally don't. You don't. You can eat anything for breakfast
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: and it counts as breakfast. Somebody's like, I pay one
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars to be told that I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: have permission to eat anything for breakfast.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, include you know what I love to do in
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: the fall. I love to get a Marine calendar apple
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: pie Dutch apple pie because apple pie is bullshit. If
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have the crumbles, it has to have the crumbles.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: And then I bake it on a Sunday night and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: for that entire week, I have a apple Pie a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: La mode for breakfast because I'm like, it's apple strudle,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: like it's a it's a toaster strudle. That's just in
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: buye for Yeah.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Literally again, I think those kind of rules are made
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: up also board noes. I could die within two hours
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: of breakfast. I should start my day off with what
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: makes me happy exactly. It could be the best or
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: worst day of my life. But I know that starting
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: off any story by saying, so my day actually start
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: when I had apple pie with ice cream for breakfast,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: like any day is automatically more interesting to me. Yeah,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: I start the story like that exactly.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: So like my brain will make a rule like that,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and it's what kept me on the straight and narrow.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: As PC Musgraves has called it, Oh, I love a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: queer anthem. She didn't mean to make a queer anthem
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: That is it, dude, it's my anthem.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: So what's the song called. It's not Rainbow. It's follow
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: your Arrow, Follow your Arrow, thank you. I was like,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: I know, I know what this song.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Is, which I love that song. That was her apologizing
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: for being homophobic. She was like, I actually learned that
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: it was wrong for me to be this way, so
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: she wrote an apology song.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Do you know how often I was just Midwest homophobic
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: without realizing that that's homophobia. Oh, I wish I could
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: get to the misogyny point of my brain. That's like,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: if anyone is on the TV or is older than you,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: or is just more put together than you, and they
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: say something that's a rule, including anything about your sexuality,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's so important to like just be like
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: none of this fucking matters, Like.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: We have we figured that out, yet none of this matters.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Like no, I have a friend that has a sign
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: that's so good it goes. Do you think this mattered
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: to the dinosaurs when the asteroid hit?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: No, T shirt or no? And I'm like, you know what,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: because it's just absurd enough to actually register in my brain.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I actually don't think the dinosaurs had an
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: established society. But also, you know what, you're fuck, You're
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: right when the asteroid came to hit, did it matten? No?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: No? And that's so much of these rules.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like hurdling more and more into my
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: thirties with this dumb rule that I'm unlovable because I was,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: like what late to the game. I was also a
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: straight late late bloomer, like you boys are like high
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: school boys. You men, men who are grooming you because
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: you're a high schooler ew like I like I was
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: a late bloomer there too.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: So like also college prap boys. You you know it.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: It's tough out there.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: It's tough out.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: There when you've decided that your only option is men
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: who like football, like Taylor call me.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: You don't have to do this.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so bored with it, Like, can I be honest
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: with you, I'm so bored of Kelsey.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: I'm over it. But yeah, I forgot what my lesson was.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was really profound, but I think
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: it's Yeah.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna be.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Like, follow your arrow wherever it goes, unless it follows
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: you to homophobia and then fuck you, why did.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Your arrow go there?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: That was bad?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Watch Bross.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: It makes me so mad. That's straight people didn't show
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: up for Bros. And then Billy Agner had to call
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: them out about that to be like, well, maybe if
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: straight woman showed up for Bros, we'd be getting a sequel,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, god, damn it.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: So one of the biggest reasons in entertainment that lesbian
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: stories are underrepresented is because straight women will not watch
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: lesbian stories.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I love lesbian stories.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're not straight.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Sweet damn it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: That's what this whole episode is about. You know what's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: fun when people are really mad about a show that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: came out like thirty or forty years ago, Zena the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Warrior Princess and they're rewatching it, going, is this gay?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's always been gay, That's why we
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: were watching it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Why were you watching it?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: What was hilarious was I had one friend who's like
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: og crushes were on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and so's
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: with that had only ever seen the daytime TV edit
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: that we made the kiss.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, so we were there world shatter on YouTube, on
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: the floor on a phone, tears streaming, and this friend
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: literally was like, if I had known this years ago,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: my dating life would have been so much better. She's like,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: my sexual identity would have been filled so early on.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: And sure enough, I will not I will not lie
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: to you. After watching that episode, her femsam relationships through
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: the roof happiest, healthiest they've ever been.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Is it purely because of the vampires. I don't know,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: but it seems like more than a coincidence.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I love to get give Sarah Mitchelle Geller credit for everything,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't think she gets enough credit.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: But in my book, she makes the world go round.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like Sarah Mitchelle Geller does every lady. Also, Matthew
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Lillard told me hello at gen Con and in my
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: entire year, he's so nice.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: I freaking love Matthew. He is a gem.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I remembered my we talked long enough, I remembered my lesson. Yeah,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: so things get made a rule my head. But then
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: my best friend started combating the rules to be like.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor Tombinson has this bit about her experimentation with sexuality
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: where she's like, I don't want to learn new things.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Learning new things is hard. I can't be bad at
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: one more thing. And I used to be like yes,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: And that's why I've never tried Taylor, because Taylor Tombinson
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: and I sometimes.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Live parallel existences. But my friend said this.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: When I went my dad told me that driving in
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the mountains from LA to Modesto was going to be scary, scary, scary.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: And then I got onto the mountains and it was
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: a four way highway, And what's ever been scary about
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: a four way Highway. Now mountains do get treacherous because
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: of rain in bullshit or whatever. And it was a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: sunny day and my friend said, stop listening to other people.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: You've always learned to do whatever it is you want
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: to do or not want to do. But had to like,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: you can learn anything, including sex stuff, even though it's weird.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: Cuche. There is one girl on TikTok, can't remember her
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: during COVID taught me some new tricks and I was like, wait,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: you can learn sex stuff.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: You can learn sex stuff at any age. It's not
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: like I mean you.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I would hope you could learn sex stuff at
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: any age, just because I'm like it, GE's so boring.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Listen, there was that whole Hulu movie Good Luck Leo
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Grande where Emma Thompson at like upper sixties, early seventies,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: was like, my husband died and I've never.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: Orgasm, so you try.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Here's some money, and she learned some shit and we
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: got to see like Emma Thompson Lake semi nude, which
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: is like something I never knew that I craved. But
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: it's like I do want to see older women just
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: being like I would like to come please and then
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: like fulfilling that.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: No, exactly, no, please do that? Also, can we please
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: cast the woman from Ted Lasso and Everything? I need
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: that dommy mommy in my life. Yes, we love her.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: Just give me more, Just give me more middle aged women.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, we love middle aged women, middle age mommy women
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: like boys. Give us the Dungeon mommies.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: I don't care if they're late bloomers or not. I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: need them in everything.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: We also now have to write a show called Dungeon Mommies. Yes, yes, yeah,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: or get it on VH one as a reality TV
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: show with Brett Michaels. If we did both, we can
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: do both. Yeah, yeah, the first ever both because Rock
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: of Love was also fiction. I found out too late
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: in life.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was married with one of his baby babies
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: moms during that whole production, and no one knew but Brett.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: So more you know, the more you know. Brett Michaels
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: is a liar, is what I'm saying. What's a manifestation
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: that you would like to put into the general collective
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: about people who are, you know, looking to jazz it
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: up a little bit, but are afraid to me?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: I think again, the biggest thing is patience understanding as well,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: that just because you have hit one milestone in your
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: journey does not mean that you have curbed all of
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: the internal criticism that came from external sources. And I
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: think it's one of those things where just because it
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: seems challenging doesn't mean it's not worth the reward. And
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: by that I mean I think that it can be
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: so confusing and so scary to be in a relationship
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: that challenges little basic rules that we didn't even realize
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: exist because we model them after heterosexual relationships and ways
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: that negatively impact our self image or our concept of
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: healthy love. So I think it's one of those things
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: where just because a partner is asking more of you
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: as far as communication or different things than any of
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: your male partners did, doesn't mean that they're high maintenance
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: or that they're difficult. It just maybe means that they
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: have a more evolved concept of what a healthy working
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: relationship looks like.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I was blown away during Queer
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Ultimatum just by the conversations alone, and then don't worry,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: eventually it got toxic.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: Too, and I was like, Ah, they're just like us.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: People are people. People are people.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like the whole patience and not labeling we're
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we're just like programmed to believe so many
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: things about women that then when you want to love women,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: you find yourself instead just tearing them down.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I think it's again getting through this
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: whole idea of seeing women as competition that can get
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: so hard in relationships. Like I remember being a teenager.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: When you're a teenager, it's the time where everybody's very insecure,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: And I remember one person being like, so, what would
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: you do if you're dating another woman and you thought
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: she's prettier than you? And this was like a group
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: of conversation between a month a bunch of us, and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: we were just all kind of talking in that very
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: safe space where none of us felt the need to
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: have an answer instantly. We're all like, yeah, what would
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: I do if my partner is prettier than me? Because like,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: when you're dating a guy, it's supposed to be like
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: lucrative that he's prettier than you. But then as a girl,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: you're like, was it supposed to make me sad am?
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: I supposed to be happy? What do I do if
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: she thinks she's prettier than me and all these things,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: and ultimately, again we all came down to the conclusion
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: that seems so simple, but it's like, if I loved her,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: would I care? And it's like, no, if we actually
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: cared about each other, it does not matter who has
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: bigger tits, who has longer legs, who's this, who's that,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: because again it breaks down to being so much more
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: about the individual. And again you're gonna have to fight
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: to prove to the world that your relationship or your
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: sexuality is valid, So you might as well do it
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: with one that actually aligns with you, because you're never
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: gonna make everybody happy. There's literally no way if you
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: are anything but cis white, straight, heterosexual male to make
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: everybody happy. And even then a lot of us see
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: through the bullshit anyway. So it's it's like you honestly
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: just have to I think, uh yeah, I just embrace
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: embrace yourself as you are. And it's kind of those
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: things where it's like, take what makes you the best
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: version of yourself and you have to leave everything else
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: at the door, Like for like this podcast, any shit
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: that I said that doesn't ring true, doesn't register, isn't
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: helping you evolve. Fuck that shit thrown in the trash
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: can light on fire if it helps you and you
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: feel like it empowers you to be that person you
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: know you're capable of being awesome. Keep it, hold on
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: to it. The second it stops being useful, get rid
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like I think my manifestation like you
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Judio's patients, and I went, oh, mine is grace because
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: with patience and with the whole, like, you actually get
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: to choose what resonates with you and what does it.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: We don't always give ourselves the grace to actually give
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: us credit for evolving or even to evolve, because we're
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: like like, my sister likes to bring up the fact
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: that when I was fifteen, maybe no, I was younger
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: because I was riding my bike to the Blimpy So
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: when I was younger than fifteen, my sister had bought
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: a Blimpey sandwich and had put it in the fridge.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I got home later than everyone asked my mother, Hey,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: what had been for dinner? And she went, there's a
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Blooby sandwich in there. Ate it got food poisoning because
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: you can't just trust that mayo. After an hour got
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: food poisoning whatever. And my sister to this day will
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: be like, do you remember when you just let yourself
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: eat my blimpy sandwich? I go the blimomy sandwich I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: was gas lit into believing was my dinner and then
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: gave me food poisoning.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Like we let things like that go.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: And I've always been selfish and I've never grown since
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever, like I'm still.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: That eight year old who eats people's.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Sandwiches and throws fits if she has to take the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: garbage out and like all of that. But you gotta
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: give yourself grace, Like Liza, we all deserve to love women.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Women are fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well to that so much. What I always have
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  Speaker 3: to remind myself is the earliest core version of myself
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  Speaker 3: is not hoterosexual. She did not know that there was
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  Speaker 3: those concepts. She just was. And so like any time
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  Speaker 3: that there is, there's those feelings of you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like that imposter syndrome, or that I'm not good
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  Speaker 3: enough or I haven't did enough, or what if my
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  Speaker 3: like you know, score percentage isn't equal between men and women.
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  Speaker 3: What if the women I like aren't fed enough? What
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  Speaker 3: if the women are to mask what if whatever, Like
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  Speaker 3: anytime I look at any of that, I'm like, little
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  Speaker 3: me didn't care hair, and little me was not straight.
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  Speaker 3: And that's as simple as it was. She did not
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  Speaker 3: label anything else. She did not care. She didn't question
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  Speaker 3: if she saw women kissing each other, Like none of
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  Speaker 3: that stuff ever registered is abnormal because of what she
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  Speaker 3: already knew about herself. And that's something I always try
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  Speaker 3: to like encourage people to like, even if you're a
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  Speaker 3: late bloomer, yes, but no, you didn't consciously because you're
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  Speaker 3: programmed otherwise. But you can't change the fact that this
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  Speaker 3: is who you are and where your heart's always been.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not something society can take away or invalidate.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's there and it's allowed to take whatever form
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  Speaker 3: it takes with you because it again, it's not in
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  Speaker 3: a box. It's not binary, doesn't have like a little
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  Speaker 3: bucket list to ensure that you can get your membership
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  Speaker 3: to the gay club.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, life isn't a cosmo quiz.
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  Speaker 3: It turns out, I know, be really easy if it was,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: We took so I took so many cosmo quizes.
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  Speaker 3: Play dude, I still will whip out a BuzzFeed quiz. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I love a BuzzFeed quiz. I'll do BuzzFeed, Cosmo, oh,
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  Speaker 3: and magazine Time.
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  Speaker 2: We love.
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  Speaker 1: Uh No, Well, thank you so much for being here
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  Speaker 1: and spending time with me again.
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  Speaker 3: You're always welcome back. We know this.
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  Speaker 1: We already We've already talked about things that we could
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  Speaker 1: talk about again. You were like, yes, I will do
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  Speaker 1: this episode, but then I want to do and I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yea, so many ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, tell everyone where they can find you so that
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  Speaker 1: they can also follow your cool life on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome. Well, thank you for that endorsement. I'll be like
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  Speaker 3: spending the rest of like the next few months trying
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  Speaker 3: to live up to that. I'll be like, what would
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  Speaker 3: be cool to Natalie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's everything I want exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So you can follow me on basically all social media
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  Speaker 3: bost other social media. I kicked the boot too, and
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  Speaker 3: then yeah, my books other things are available elsewhere, so
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  Speaker 3: you can just google me to find all the other information.
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  Speaker 3: Just google me, you'll find some google me. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: the worst that could happened, probably something terrible.
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  Speaker 1: But I got the links in the show notes because
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  Speaker 1: I'll do the googling for you so you don't end
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Natalie's got your guys' is back. I can have
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  Speaker 3: any single lesbians listening for bisexuals.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Woman Natalie is so good at doing things like providing
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  Speaker 3: links and the research for you because she knows that
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  Speaker 3: your time is valuable. Yeah, and hers are open.
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  Speaker 1: Her dms are open, and she wants to take you
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  Speaker 1: to karaoke to dry home. Abraham Lincoln a perfect date
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  Speaker 1: if anyone ever thought of it. Now that is, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is. Here's something. That's why I stop dating them
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  Speaker 1: because their dates are boring. They're not gonna want to
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  Speaker 1: sing Pink Pony Club and grind on Abraham Lincoln.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's gone to the point where if I go
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  Speaker 3: out with a man, I pitched the date and I
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  Speaker 3: have somebody men be like, wow, I've never had a woman,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I'm not doing it because I
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: like you any more special than I like anyone. I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing it because I don't want to do something I
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  Speaker 3: don't like.
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