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- 0:01To say that the situation in the Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer
- 0:06case with as far as the information that is coming out
- 0:10is dynamic would be maybe the understatement of the month.
- 0:15We're getting new bits and pieces of information in this
- 0:18case all the time, some of it well sourced and documented,
- 0:22some of it from anonymous sources, some of it unsourced at
- 0:25all. It's tough to know exactly where
- 0:29the truth is in all of this, but I think that if we work together
- 0:34and look at what is being reported from reputable sources,
- 0:37we will be able to piece together the timeline of the
- 0:42alleged, well, the murder alleged to have been carried out
- 0:49by the couple's son, Nick Reiner.
- 0:53Stick with me. This video contains mature
- 1:08themes and discussions intended only for adult audiences.
- 1:11Viewer discretion is advised. Well, hello there my friend and
- 1:18welcome back to another true crime conversation with me,
- 1:21Gavin Fish. So glad that you're here on this
- 1:25channel. We'd like to cut through right
- 1:27to the nitty gritty of true crime.
- 1:29If that is your thing, then you are in the right place.
- 1:32Thank you for being here, wherever here is for you.
- 1:36I'd love to know where you are joining us from.
- 1:39Please tell us where you're joining us from in the comments
- 1:44on the live chat or if you're a part of the rewatch crew, in the
- 1:47in the comments below. OK All right.
- 1:50Just a quick little recap. Saturday, sometimes Saturday
- 1:58night or early Sunday morning. These two Hollywood luminaries,
- 2:04Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle.
- 2:06Singer Reiner, both producers. Michelle, a celebrated
- 2:11photographer, of course. Rob Reiner, A celebrated
- 2:15director, actor, producer. They were discovered deceased in
- 2:21their Brentwood mansion. Their son, Nick Reiner, was
- 2:27arrested later that night for the murder of their parents.
- 2:31We don't know exactly what LED police to Nick Reiner.
- 2:37We heard speculation that the Reiner's youngest daughter,
- 2:42Roni, had said something or Roni, now I'm second guessing
- 2:46myself, had had said something about him being dangerous.
- 2:51But then later on that was that was denied.
- 2:54And so there's just so much going on that it, it's hard to
- 2:59tell where the truth ends and speculation begins.
- 3:04Now yesterday I was off because I had some endodontic surgery
- 3:11that needed to happen on this side of my face.
- 3:14So some of the stuff that we're going to talk about tonight, I'm
- 3:18sure that you guys have seen in other outlets.
- 3:19But for at least my benefit, hopefully yours, we, I would
- 3:23like to go through everything. OK, what I am going to kind of
- 3:29skip over is the hearing, the arraignment hearing, because
- 3:35nothing really happened there. Nick was shielded from view.
- 3:39His his voice could be heard once saying something as simple
- 3:43as yes, your honor, but that arraignment has been pushed back
- 3:47to January 7th. Alan Jackson, the attorney for
- 3:51Mr. Nick Reiner, said afterwards that this is a very complex set
- 3:59of circumstances, is a complex case, we need to not rush to
- 4:03judgement, blah, blah, blah. You know what he didn't say?
- 4:06He didn't say my client is innocent.
- 4:09My client is not guilty and I look forward to presenting our
- 4:13case to a jury of his peers in a court of law.
- 4:15He did not say that. No, no, no, no.
- 4:19He was like, you know, this is complex.
- 4:21People are complex, people are complex.
- 4:25And sure enough, they are. We are.
- 4:29But I, I thought that was something that was conspicuously
- 4:33missing from Mr. Jackson's statement.
- 4:40Real quick, before we really, really dive in, we got Hickory,
- 4:43NC in the house. Glad you are here.
- 4:46Johannesburg, South Africa, thank you very much for being
- 4:50here from Joburg. It is a sad case indeed.
- 4:53Just Ducky says Brian Walsh got life without parole.
- 4:56We're going to talk about that here in just a bit during our
- 4:58headlines segment. Vancouver, Canada in the House,
- 5:02New Hampshire, Daytona Beach, Eastern Kentucky, northern
- 5:05British Columbia and Canada, our friendly neighbors to the north.
- 5:10Thank you all for checking in and letting me know where you're
- 5:13from. I, I just love that.
- 5:15OK, where shall we start? I don't have any multimedia to
- 5:20share with you tonight. We're going to I have three
- 5:24articles, three articles that I want to go over now listen on
- 5:29this channel, I like to be very, very interactive.
- 5:32And I know that many of you, you're watching on your TV
- 5:35totally cool that this is not a guilt trip.
- 5:37This is not a guilt trip, but I like interactivity.
- 5:41I like hearing what you guys have to say.
- 5:44I like hearing your questions, your comments, your concerns.
- 5:47I love all of that. And so if you put AGF in your
- 5:51comment on my side in the live stream, I will be able to see
- 5:55your comment and address any questions or comments or
- 5:58anything that you that you want me to see.
- 6:02OK, the first article that I want to bring to you is 1 from
- 6:09CNN. Join me will you overhear on the
- 6:12old Acrobat? This was published today,
- 6:18written by Chelsea Bailey on CNN, titled Rob and Michelle
- 6:22Reiner, What we know about the hours before and after their
- 6:26fatal stabbings Course, many of the things that we've heard
- 6:31along the way had to do with this party at Conan O'Brien's
- 6:34house. We've heard, you know, all sorts
- 6:38of different rumors about 1000 yard stares and interrupting,
- 6:45interrupting conversations and asking people about their
- 6:48celebrity. I, I think a lot of it has
- 6:51probably been maybe inflated a little bit.
- 6:57But let's hear what Chelsea Bailey has to say.
- 7:01In the hours after police discovered the bodies of Rob
- 7:04Reiner and Michelle Singer Reiner inside their Brentwood,
- 7:07CA, home, speculation was rife over what could have led someone
- 7:12to murder the beloved Hollywood director and his other half, a
- 7:16charismatic photographer and producer.
- 7:19That speculation reached a fever pitch when it became clear
- 7:23authorities suspected the Reiner's middle son, Nick, of
- 7:26killing his parents and was further fueled by rampant
- 7:30interest in his past struggles and addictions.
- 7:33I that's fair to say. Sure.
- 7:36I'm like, I on this very channel, we, we tried to get
- 7:40inside the mind of Nick Reiner, right?
- 7:42We're like, what is it? Because while a prosecutor does
- 7:47not have to establish a motive in order to prove all of the
- 7:51different pieces of the parts and pieces of murder, usually a
- 7:57jury wants to know why. Why do juries want to know why?
- 8:01Because we are human. We all want to know why.
- 8:05And so of course, yeah, we, we wanted to get into the head of
- 8:11Nick Reiner to see what the devil man.
- 8:13So on Wednesday, three days after his parents were found
- 8:16dead, Nick Reiner stood before a judge in a Los Angeles courtroom
- 8:20accused of their murders. The 32 year old has been charged
- 8:23with fatally stabbing his parents in the early morning
- 8:26hours Sunday, and his appearance in court, while brief, marked
- 8:31the first time Nick Reiner spoke publicly about the incident.
- 8:33He said only three words. Yes, your honor, he said,
- 8:37acknowledging he was willing to waive his right to a speedy
- 8:40arraignment on the murder charges.
- 8:42By the way, he is likely going to waive his right to a speedy
- 8:46trial as well. Just judging from what Mr.
- 8:49Jackson said, this is a complex case.
- 8:54This is going to need to be litigated.
- 8:56There are many circumstances, lots of, lots of moving parts.
- 9:00Those were not his words, but you know my interpretation of
- 9:02what he said. That means that there will be a
- 9:05lot of work on this. That means that it's not going
- 9:10to be a speedy trial. So buckle in.
- 9:13We're probably three years out from finding any resolution in
- 9:17this case. Now my question at this point
- 9:20is, and it's probably too early to be asking questions like
- 9:25this, but I always want to know, are we going to make it to a
- 9:28trial here or is there going to be some sort of plea?
- 9:32Odds are it'll plea out, right, Either pleading directly to the
- 9:39court or bargaining with the District Attorney.
- 9:42The the overwhelming odds are that that is what will happen.
- 9:49It just boils down, I guess, to what Nick Reiner believes he
- 9:56might be able to get away with if if he goes to court, if he
- 9:59goes to trial, I mean, if convicted, continues the
- 10:05article, he could face life in prison without the possibility
- 10:08of parole or the death penalty. Indeed, California does have the
- 10:13death penalty, though it has not been used in almost 20 years.
- 10:17It was January of 2006 the last time it was used, and I don't
- 10:22see it being implemented in the Golden State anytime soon.
- 10:26The Los Angeles Police Department in the city's
- 10:29district attorney's office have declined to share many details
- 10:32about the case as the investigation continues.
- 10:35But what sources, so far unnamed, have revealed to CNN
- 10:41paints A fragmented and fraught picture of the hours before and
- 10:46immediately after the rhiner's murderers.
- 10:49OK, a Christmas tradition turned magic or tragic.
- 10:52Not magic, Gavin, by all accounts.
- 10:57Isn't it funny how the human brain works?
- 10:59This is definitely guys. This is definitely a tangent.
- 11:07Yeah, this is definitely a tangent, but isn't it funny how
- 11:10the human mind works? When I read A Christmas
- 11:12Tradition, my mind immediately went to Dickens for A Christmas
- 11:16Carol, immediately went to A Tale of Two Cities, which is a
- 11:20book that I'm reading right now. You know, I've never read A Tale
- 11:22of Two Cities and my mind was just going off into Charles
- 11:26Dickens land as I read that sub subhead.
- 11:31A Christmas tradition turned magic thinking the magic of
- 11:34Christmas. But no, it is not a magic.
- 11:36It is definitely tragic. OK?
- 11:38By all accounts, Conan O'Brien's annual Christmas party is
- 11:42attended by a veritable who's who of comedy legends.
- 11:47Adam Sandler, O'Brien's neighbor, has joked he looks
- 11:50forward to the gathering every year because of the ham.
- 11:53That's funny that that's very funny.
- 11:56I I Sandler Bill Hader once regaled O'Brien's TV audience
- 12:02with the tale of a Christmas inferno after a wayward flame
- 12:06ignited an outdoor couch. Tom Hanks has been known to stop
- 12:10by, as has comedian Martin Short.
- 12:13Rob Reiner, who had long cemented his place among
- 12:16Hollywood's comedy set with his affable nature and signature
- 12:20observational humor, fit right in at O'Brien's festivities
- 12:24Saturday night. But according to a source
- 12:26familiar with the incident, the holiday cheer that typically
- 12:29forms the soundtrack to the celebration was ruptured when an
- 12:32argument broke out between Rob Reiner and his son.
- 12:36The source did not share details of the argument, but they say
- 12:39Rob Reiner's wife, Michelle, had also attended the party.
- 12:43Nick Reiner drew the attention of some partygoers earlier in
- 12:46the evening because of his scruffy appearance and how
- 12:49little he engaged with the other attendees, another source told
- 12:52CNN. That party go to par.
- 12:57That partygoer recalled seeing Nick Reiner standing alone by
- 13:01the fire pit, smoking a cigarette and speaking to no one
- 13:04at a party where most guests were dressed up, the source told
- 13:07CNN. He was dressed casually in a
- 13:09hoodie, hat and jeans. He's the John Fetterman of the
- 13:13Hollywood comedy set. Apparently, investigators are
- 13:16now zeroing in on the critical hours between when the Reiners
- 13:20left the holiday gathering and when their bodies were
- 13:22discovered the following afternoon.
- 13:25We have learned, we've learned about Romy Reiner's, I guess,
- 13:36discovery of of her parents. We understand that.
- 13:40Well, let's just read it. Romy Reiner lives across the
- 13:42street from her parents home. The 27 year old went to check on
- 13:45her mom and dad around 3:00 PM. Sunday, according to an
- 13:47individual close to the situation.
- 13:49That's when she discovered their bodies, the source said.
- 13:52Now, this is a little detail that we've got some conflict and
- 13:58I want to be as sensitive as I can to the the Reiner's family
- 14:05and to their friends and everybody who know them and care
- 14:09about them deeply, because this is not entertainment to them,
- 14:14right? This is this is tragedy writ
- 14:17large on their hearts. On the on the other hand, I
- 14:24mean, this is something that we do for, for our education, our
- 14:30own understanding of crime, right?
- 14:33We, we have to be sensitive to the family, but we also have to
- 14:38have to get to the bottom of this.
- 14:39And I think that we will over time.
- 14:41But the the conflicting information that we have here is
- 14:46that she found her father and then she went outside and asked
- 14:51the friend to call 911. And it was later paramedics who
- 14:55said her mother had died as well.
- 14:57But again, these are just reports from unnamed sources.
- 15:03And by the way, I did see video on Brian Enten's program that
- 15:08Alan Jackson had been out to the crime scene.
- 15:12Brian pointed out that Alan Jackson often does do his own
- 15:16investigation, which is typical. I mean, that is very, very
- 15:20typical of a defense attorney, right?
- 15:22You can't just, you can't just go on the police's investigation
- 15:27and, and the discovery that you receive.
- 15:32But Alan Jackson is known to conduct thorough investigations.
- 15:36He was out of the crime scene over the last day or two.
- 15:40Romy Reiner fled the home, found a friend, asked them to call
- 15:43911. A source familiar with the
- 15:45incident told CNNLAPDA officers arrived at the house in
- 15:49Brentwood around 3:40 PM where the bodies were discovered in
- 15:52their bedroom. The Los Angeles County.
- 15:55It makes me wonder how big that bedroom was it if she found her
- 15:59father but not her mother. Doesn't have to necessarily be
- 16:02big, right? But it but I know it's a 10,000
- 16:05square foot house. That's a big house.
- 16:10The DA's office said the Reiners were fatally stabbed, and a
- 16:13report from the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner's office
- 16:17cited their cause of death as multiple sharp force injuries.
- 16:20Now, we don't know that. This is another one where we're
- 16:25not sure, right? We're not sure.
- 16:29Sharp force injuries we know from studying other cases, for
- 16:34example the Ellen Greenberg case.
- 16:37Sharp force injuries can be slicey and they can be stabby.
- 16:43And I don't mean to make light of this, but you guys know what
- 16:45I mean. They can be slashy or slicey and
- 16:49they can be pointy stabby. So early reports that there was
- 16:57a throat or throats cut may be accurate, they may not.
- 17:04What we and reports that they were stabbed to death may be
- 17:08accurate, they may not. It might be a combination of the
- 17:11two things. All we know is that they were
- 17:16sharp force injuries. Through interviews with the
- 17:21Reiner surviving family members, detectives learned that Nick
- 17:25Reiner had been staying in the guest house on his parents
- 17:30property. I'm just going to bring up a
- 17:31photo again of Nick Reiner, A source told CNN.
- 17:36Detectives were also told about Nick Reiner's history of drug
- 17:40addiction, a topic he's been open about, and the argument at
- 17:43the Christmas party the previous night.
- 17:45The source said Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer Reiner's deaths
- 17:50were declared A homicide and investigators soon began
- 17:54searching for their son. This has been a question for for
- 17:58me do I I have a couple photos I Oh no, I messed up these photo
- 18:06buttons again, didn't I give me a second let me make sure that
- 18:08I've got my buttons working here, guys let's see this one
- 18:16and then yeah. I just want to make sure that my
- 18:22buttons work OK. I mean this I mean look at that
- 18:26photo man. This is a father and mother,
- 18:29right that they they knew that they Nick had been having issues
- 18:36with mental health reportedly issues for a while.
- 18:39His substance abuse had been a thing since he was a teenager.
- 18:43We watched that podcast interview with Rob Reiner and
- 18:48Nick Reiner over on, what was it, Mercurio's podcast from
- 18:542016, that this was a family that I think they bent over
- 18:59backwards trying to help their son in the best way they could.
- 19:02And like, there's no manual for this, right?
- 19:06Parenting is really hard and it gets harder.
- 19:09It actually gets harder the older your children get.
- 19:11At least that's my experience. So anyway, in my opinion, these
- 19:18people have been working really, really hard with a very
- 19:21difficult situation. But the the article seems to be
- 19:27inferring that the fact that he lived on the property and wasn't
- 19:30there, the fact that he had a history of drug addiction and
- 19:34wasn't there, and the fact that there was an outburst at the
- 19:37Christmas party that made them zero in on Nick.
- 19:43According to a gas station employee, around 8:20 PM on
- 19:47Sunday evening, surveillance video captured Nick Reiner
- 19:53ambling across an Arco gas station parking lot near the
- 19:56University of Southern California, nearly 15 miles from
- 19:59his family's home. He appeared to be wearing a
- 20:01baseball cap, jeans and a jacket, and as he entered the
- 20:05store, he was carrying a red backpack slung over his
- 20:08shoulder. Inside, he begins to make his
- 20:11way toward the gas station's refrigerators before pivoting
- 20:14and immediately walking back out about 12 seconds later. 12
- 20:18seconds later. He re enters again, walks to the
- 20:22back to grab a drink from the cooler, and stands in line at
- 20:25the register. Video obtained by CNN shows him
- 20:28swaying and pacing slightly and occasionally glancing over his
- 20:31shoulder as he waits for his turn in line.
- 20:34I wonder if that is an indication of some kind of
- 20:39paranoia, some kind of schizophrenia or something as
- 20:42simple as coming down from the I.
- 20:47I don't want to say it so that you feel like I'm saying that
- 20:50it's a positive thing, but the maybe the rush, the adrenaline
- 20:57rush of possibly what he had done hours earlier, though we
- 21:05understand that they probably died in the early morning hours
- 21:08based on other reports, again, unnamed sources.
- 21:12So it had been hours, but still he had allegedly, if he did it
- 21:18right, murdered his parents. And would he be coming down off
- 21:23of that adrenaline high? I don't know.
- 21:29Or maybe he's got some sort of schizophrenic episode or
- 21:34paranoia episode, something like that, I don't know.
- 21:39He appears to pay for the drink in cash before exiting the
- 21:42store. Here's a Here's a photo, a still
- 21:47photo from the video surveillance.
- 21:49The cameras outside the gas station captured Nick Reiner
- 21:52walking across the parking lot and into the night.
- 21:55Less than an hour later, the gas station's cameras were trained
- 21:58on the intersection of Exposition Blvd. and Vermont
- 22:01Ave. when an ambulance barrels through the intersection,
- 22:05closely followed by a police car.
- 22:07Then, as if synchronized, cars that just moments before seem to
- 22:11be waiting for the light to change turn on their police
- 22:15lights and converge on a man standing across the street.
- 22:18Wow bathed in the flashing lights of multiple unmarked
- 22:22police vehicles. I've not seen this part of the
- 22:24video. I've seen a little a little
- 22:26piece of the video but I've not seen what was just described.
- 22:33Right. Just like people waiting
- 22:35patiently for the lights turn, then Roo lights.
- 22:38Wow. Behind or bathed in the flashing
- 22:44lights of multiple unmarked police vehicles, Nick Reiner put
- 22:47his hands up in the air. Police took him into custody at
- 22:499:15 PM, according to a statement from the LAPD.
- 22:55OK, two speculation tempered with compassion 2 wait.
- 22:59Two weeks before Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer Reiner were
- 23:02killed, their daughter, Romi posted a series of photos from a
- 23:07family vacation. Give me just a second.
- 23:10I want to see if I can, if they are up still.
- 23:14They are. Let me bring them over here.
- 23:18See if we can zoom in a little bit.
- 23:26Let's see. Yeah.
- 23:31Thankful for family health and followers of any age.
- 23:34Not thankful for the president and the state of our country.
- 23:36OK, So she's as politically active as her parents, which is
- 23:41totally cool. Can be that.
- 23:45Yeah. So family vacation, that's a.
- 23:54And it looks like a beautiful, beautiful vacation.
- 23:59The images capture the rhiners smiling and laughing as they
- 24:02swim in clear blue water during the day at the beach.
- 24:05In the captions of the post, Romi wrote that she was thankful
- 24:08for family health, but later that month, the family's life
- 24:11would be turned upside down. Yeah, this is really well
- 24:13written. In a statement Wednesday, which
- 24:16I missed yesterday because of my aforementioned endodontic
- 24:21intervention, Jake and Romy, 2 of the Rhiners surviving
- 24:27children, said quote. Words cannot even begin to
- 24:29describe the unimaginable pain we are experiencing every moment
- 24:34of the day. They weren't just our parents,
- 24:36they were our best friends, the siblings said.
- 24:39We now ask for privacy or respect and privacy, for
- 24:43speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and for
- 24:47our parents to be remembered for the incredible lives they lived
- 24:50and the love they gave. And what a beautiful statement.
- 24:56What a beautiful and socially aware and socially mature
- 25:01statement. They understand that there will
- 25:05be speculation, but please, please, please temper that
- 25:09speculation with compassion and humanity, which I think, I think
- 25:14that we all should. We all should try our best to do
- 25:18that temper the the frenzy of just wanting to know what
- 25:24happened and what the truth is. I mean, part of that is just the
- 25:28the part of our lizard brain, right?
- 25:30The human animal where we're just like we have to watch this
- 25:33train wreck. But also part of it should also
- 25:37be a desire to learn, a desire to grow, a desire to prevent
- 25:41things like this in the future, a desire to maybe apply things
- 25:45that we might be able to learn without blaming victims to the
- 25:50way that we live our lives. So I think that is a beautifully
- 25:55written and released statement and I'm going to do my best to
- 25:59follow that that request. Now before I go on to the next
- 26:06article, I would really like to see what you guys are saying
- 26:10over in the comments. I'm sure that they are tempered
- 26:13with amazingness. Let's see and remember to put GF
- 26:20in your comment so that I can see what it is that you're
- 26:25saying. That which is 214 says Nick said
- 26:29on the Dopey interview that he alone was responsible for his
- 26:33drug use. I think that yeah, real Justice
- 26:38says Nick had a black backpack when he is seen at the first gas
- 26:42station. Then he had a red backpack at
- 26:44the store. Yeah.
- 26:45And I I understand from reporting from the New York
- 26:51Times and also ABC News that he checked into a hotel, used his
- 26:56credit card, used his name. So he had just gone 15 miles
- 27:01away from mommy and daddy's was not, was not trying to hide
- 27:07himself. And maybe I mean, that could
- 27:12that be some sort of indication that he was in sort of in some
- 27:18sort of mental health break, some kind of psychotic episode,
- 27:24some kind of psychosis, something like that, that he he
- 27:28wasn't, he didn't apparently try to hide if, if all those police
- 27:35officers were like staged to arrest him, then they had been
- 27:39watching him for a while. And that's interesting to me
- 27:43because he was arrested at 9:15. Do you remember the, what was it
- 27:47the deputy chief of robbery homicide did the IT was, it was
- 27:53this presser right here. Let's see.
- 27:56Let me see if I can get to it. Yeah.
- 28:04Remember, Remember this one right here when he was giving
- 28:09this presser that was like 9:00 at night and the arrest we
- 28:19understand from the press release was at 9:15.
- 28:22That seems to be corroborated by the gas station video.
- 28:26But if they were staged ready to arrest him, all ready to turn
- 28:32their lights on everybody out and, and approaching him,
- 28:36getting him down on the ground, cuffing him and everything like
- 28:39that, then they had been watching him.
- 28:42They likely knew that he was at that hotel.
- 28:45They were likely following him. That this is just guys, this is
- 28:49speculation. But I've just the the
- 28:52disingenuousness of this of this press conference is kind of
- 28:58stunning, though, if I can just kind of argue with myself here,
- 29:02you guys who are new, I am a professional waffler and I do
- 29:06like to just go through the mental exercise of seeing where
- 29:09I'm wrong. So if I could just extend a
- 29:13little bit of grace to this guy and to the LAPD, they don't want
- 29:17any of that out right. They need to protect, they need
- 29:20to protect their officers. They need to protect the the
- 29:24victim's family. They need to protect the
- 29:25defendant right there, their suspect, make sure that he's
- 29:31taken into custody safely for all parties, right?
- 29:36I mean, for all they knew he was a dangerous guy.
- 29:39He they believed that he had stabbed his parents to death And
- 29:45so could he have a knife on him or something like that?
- 29:48So very interesting. I, I wonder if that hotel that
- 29:51he was checked in at somebody help me in the comments because
- 29:54I don't know off the top of my head which hotel that was, but I
- 29:58wonder if it was right near that gas station.
- 30:00He was just walking back and forth.
- 30:03Very great comment. Mel Stiller, 8561 Unfortunately,
- 30:09the Reiners had been dealing with Nick's drug addiction since
- 30:11he was 15. What a tragedy indeed.
- 30:16Real justice says Nick had his phone with him when arrested,
- 30:19proving he did it because he his rents were found at 3:40 PM and
- 30:27Nick never contacted his sis or bro and never replied to their
- 30:31calls or texts about oh parents found.
- 30:35Probably parents were found got it.
- 30:39So I I have not seen any reporting on that yet that he
- 30:45hadn't contacted his brother and sister, hadn't replied to their
- 30:49calls and texts. I, I, I would imagine that that
- 30:53is true, right? If if you find your parents
- 30:56dead, stabbed or sliced to death, sharp force, trauma to
- 31:00death and your brother is missing, you likely would reach
- 31:05out to him. So I, I find that that is, I
- 31:07mean, that that seems legitimate to me that that would have
- 31:14happened. Though I haven't seen any
- 31:15reporting. Mooney says Alan Jackson was
- 31:18Phil Spector's prosecutor. That's right.
- 31:21He prosecuted Spector and and one man watching it.
- 31:26Phil. I almost had Alan Spector.
- 31:28I combined the two names Phil Spector that that courtroom was
- 31:31something else. That trial was something else.
- 31:35And if you have you ever read this once again, Oh my goodness,
- 31:41Gavin, this is twice and twice in one video.
- 31:47Yes, this is a tangent, but have you have, have you read anything
- 31:53about the Ronnie Spector story? Phil Spector was a piece of
- 31:56work, man. He was a piece of work.
- 32:00OK, let's see if there's anything else you guys want me
- 32:03to see before I go. Cooler by the Lake 30 says we
- 32:07need to be patient, let the LAPD do their job.
- 32:10We'll find out in due course. I only hope some kind of deal
- 32:12can be worked out so the family doesn't have to go through the
- 32:15circus of a trial. That is that is very
- 32:20compassionate, compassionate of you.
- 32:22And that is something that we probably are constantly
- 32:25struggling with inside each of us, right?
- 32:28We really want that trial. We want to know what happened.
- 32:30But also we do want the victims families protected.
- 32:34Very good. Emmy Nikolov, the pierside
- 32:38Hotel. So let let me look that up here
- 32:41real quick. Let's see Pierside Hotel Los
- 32:52Angeles maps. And then he was arrested.
- 33:05And bear with me for a second. He was arrested near the corner
- 33:12of. Where was that?
- 33:20I can't remember exactly where that was.
- 33:38I I'm looking at the I should show you guys what it is that
- 33:42I'm looking at here. So there's the pier side in
- 33:46Santa Monica. So yeah, that's nowhere near
- 33:50USC. Santa Monica's way far away from
- 33:56USC, which is more downtown. So yeah, I'm not I'm not sure.
- 34:01Thank you, Emmy. Thank you very much.
- 34:03Let's bring our let's bring our victims back up.
- 34:07A couple more comments. Francis De La Rue, 4519.
- 34:13Gavin, I thought it odd he entered into the hotel and they
- 34:16found blood all over his hotel room.
- 34:19How did they check in undetected if they found blood in shower
- 34:23and room? I don't know.
- 34:27And Heather, whatever points out Pierside Hotel Santa Monica
- 34:30arrested outside of USC. Thank you.
- 34:33Thank you, guys. I appreciate that.
- 34:35Thanks, Emmy. So, yeah.
- 34:38And I hadn't read reports about blood inside the hotel either,
- 34:42but there are a couple more things.
- 34:44Oh, my goodness. This is already going on pretty
- 34:46long, so I might switch. I think I'm, I, I have instead
- 34:52of three articles that we're going to read 2, we're going to
- 34:54read the Rolling Stone article. OK, So come, come back with me
- 34:58over here to Acrobat. And this is reporting again from
- 35:03today from Rolling Stone. Rob Reiner, Michelle Singer
- 35:06allegedly killed by son, everything we know.
- 35:09This one is, is pretty, pretty concise.
- 35:16I'm going to skip over things that we already know, OK?
- 35:20The scene of the crime. Reiner and Singer were found
- 35:23dead Sunday afternoon, December 14th.
- 35:25Paramedics were called to the home at around 3:30 PM and
- 35:29officers were dispatched after firefighters discovered a death.
- 35:33In an interview with the New York Times, a person close to
- 35:35the Reiner family who requested anonymity said the bodies were
- 35:38discovered after a massage therapist showed up at the house
- 35:42for a scheduled appointment, but one was unable to enter.
- 35:45The massage therapist called the couple's daughter, Romi, who
- 35:48came by with a roommate. Romy entered the house, found
- 35:51her father's dead body and ran back outside, at which point her
- 35:54roommate called 911. It was only after paramedics
- 35:57arrived that Romy learned that her mother was dead as well.
- 36:00And we had heard that her mom died in the ambulance, but I
- 36:04think, I think multiple sources have confirmed that that is not
- 36:08the case at this point. The source said Romy informed
- 36:12authorities that her brother Nick was living in the guest
- 36:14house on the property, but she did not suggest that he might be
- 36:17a suspect or be involved in any way at the time.
- 36:20Nick was not on the property. OK, the suspect.
- 36:24Investigators descended on the Reiner home Sunday night, and
- 36:28there was plenty of chaos and confusion as detectives revealed
- 36:32they were still waiting for a warrant to properly search the
- 36:35house. Yeah, so.
- 36:39And they would have had a probable cause to go in there.
- 36:44But I think they did the right thing for the purpose of
- 36:47protecting the the prosecution of applying for that search
- 36:53warrant. I think once they decided that
- 36:59there was nobody dangerous in the home, like the suspect
- 37:01wasn't in the home, that's probably when they backed out,
- 37:04got the search warrant. And they typically will wait for
- 37:06that search warrant even to have the initial team go in to take
- 37:12photographs. Usually it's done in waves,
- 37:15right? First wave is, you know, once
- 37:19the, once the search warrant is approved and received, go in and
- 37:24photograph everything as it is by professional crime scene
- 37:30photographer who won't mess up the scene, right?
- 37:32Wave 2 investigators go in, they start making their observations,
- 37:36taking their notes and so on and so forth.
- 37:39Anyway, at the time, 2 Los Angeles Police Department Deputy
- 37:43Chief Allen Hamilton said police were not seeking anyone as a
- 37:46suspect or as a person of interest.
- 37:49But already sources were telling Rolling Stone and other outlets
- 37:52that Nick was believed to have been involved in the homicides.
- 37:55Nick was the couple's second of three children, born after his
- 37:58brother Jake and before his younger sister Romy.
- 38:01While not much is known about Nick's childhood, it is known
- 38:05that he had a complicated relationship with his parents
- 38:07and had long battle drug addiction, including cocaine and
- 38:10heroin. He first went to rehab at 15 and
- 38:13spent much of his teenage teenage years rotating in and
- 38:16out of facilities. In between rehab stents, he was
- 38:19often homeless. You know, I had AI, had a
- 38:24childhood friend. I have a childhood friend.
- 38:27We're still, we're still close who had an older brother who was
- 38:34addicted to, I'm not even sure what drugs, but was an addict
- 38:39and was homeless. And when we were, when I would
- 38:44be over there playing, let's say we were like 1213 years old
- 38:49doing whatever little 12 year olds, 1213 year olds do.
- 38:52Every once in a while that brother would show up hoping.
- 38:58Well, what I was told was that he would, he would go to the
- 39:06house to try to steal stuff so he could sell it, so he could
- 39:08buy drugs. And it was really a sad
- 39:11situation because obviously they love their son, they love their
- 39:15brother, but also can't let him in the house, can't be there.
- 39:21So, yeah, very, it's got to be hard for the for the Rhiners to
- 39:28have had Nick in this situation for so long, So long quote, if I
- 39:37wanted to do it my way and not go to the programs, they were
- 39:40suggesting that I had to be homeless, Nick told people in
- 39:422016, adding I was homeless in Maine, I was homeless in New
- 39:46Jersey. I was homeless in Texas.
- 39:48I spent nights on the street. I spent weeks on the street.
- 39:51It was not fun. Anyway, he went on to write
- 39:56Being Charlotte. Let's get into the party, OK?
- 40:00Conan O'Brien's Partying On Saturday night, December 13th,
- 40:03the Reiners attended a holiday party at Conan O'Brien's house,
- 40:07though only the couple were invited, sources told Rolling
- 40:10Stone that the Reiners asked if they could bring Nick out of
- 40:13concern for him and to keep an eye on him.
- 40:16This we actually first learned from The Hollywood Reporter, but
- 40:22again, this is an unnamed source, right?
- 40:25So who knows if this will end up being true.
- 40:27Let's let's temper speculation with compassion and humanity
- 40:31here, right? So according to The Hollywood
- 40:34Reporter, the Reiners were reluctant to leave Nick at home
- 40:38unsupervised. And they had concerned about his
- 40:40recent behavior, which was extreme, which was described as
- 40:43extreme and stressful. And perhaps this was a situation
- 40:48where they didn't want him in their home alone.
- 40:50Maybe he was in the throes of addiction again.
- 40:54Maybe he was going to engage in illegal activity in order to
- 40:59feed his hat. Who knows, right?
- 41:01Who knows? Again, tempering Gavin, we're
- 41:03tempering with compassion. Reports on what exactly happened
- 41:09at the party vary somewhat, but all paint a similar and
- 41:12unnerving picture. Sources told Rolling Stone that
- 41:15Nick exhibited antisocial behavior, such as staring at
- 41:18people. Other outlets like The Hollywood
- 41:21Reporter and The Wall Street Journal claimed that Nick was
- 41:23wandering around the party asking people if they were
- 41:26famous. He reportedly interrupted the
- 41:29comedian Bill Hader while he was speaking with someone else.
- 41:32After Hader told Nick he was having a private conversation,
- 41:35Nick allegedly glared at him for a long time, per The Wall Street
- 41:39Journal. Not long after, there were
- 41:42reports that Rob and Nick got into a fight over Nick's
- 41:45behavior. Rob and Michelle reportedly
- 41:47apologized to O'Brien and left the party, though it's still
- 41:50unclear if Nick left with them a person.
- 41:53I am curious when or if Conan O'Brien is going to talk about
- 41:59this. I love Conan O'Brien needs a
- 42:06friend. I love the podcast.
- 42:08I watch it on YouTube. I think it's hilarious and they
- 42:11talk about the Christmas party with people quite often,
- 42:14including Bill Hader and Martin Short and Jason Bateman.
- 42:18There's there's been a lot of a lot of people talking about the
- 42:23Christmas party. I am curious if Conan O'Brien
- 42:27will ever talk publicly, either on his podcast or somewhere
- 42:31else, about what he witnessed happening that night.
- 42:34A person close to the Reiners who spoke with the Times did not
- 42:38dispute these accounts but did downplay the report intensity.
- 42:42The reported intensity of the interaction between Rob and
- 42:44Nick. Yeah.
- 42:45Some had said they had screamed at each other, right?
- 42:48The source also took issue with the suggestion that Rob and
- 42:51Michelle would have left the party early, noting that the
- 42:54Reiners had grown used to Nick's behavior over the years.
- 42:57OK, after the party, questions still linger about what exactly
- 43:03happened afterwards. The LA County DA's office would
- 43:05eventually claim that Nick fatally stabbed his parents in
- 43:08the early hours of December 14th.
- 43:11A coroner for the LA County Medical Examiner's Office
- 43:14eventually confirmed the couple died Sunday from multiple sharp
- 43:17force injuries. And yeah, the I forgot this, the
- 43:21the DA did say stabbed to death. But those early reports of the
- 43:26slashing of throats makes me wonder.
- 43:30Maybe they're just holding back salacious details and maybe we
- 43:35should just not worry about that.
- 43:36We know they were SHAR force injuries.
- 43:39According to several reports, Nick checked into the pierside
- 43:42Santa Monica hotel at some point on Sunday, though it's not clear
- 43:45when he arrived at the hotel and by the time police tracked him
- 43:48there, Nick was gone. Employees at the hotel told the
- 43:51LA Times that police were still investigating the hotel and the
- 43:55possible role it may have played in the alleged crime as recently
- 43:58as Tuesday. I doubt it played any role of
- 44:02the actual crime, but the cleanup of the crime, I'm sure
- 44:05it played a role, assuming that Nick Reiner did, in fact, do
- 44:10what the police are saying he did.
- 44:15Yeah. So it was near Exposition Park.
- 44:20Let me let me find that real quick.
- 44:30Just out of curiosity, do a little little map time
- 44:36Exposition Park. OK, so bringing you over here to
- 44:46the website. This is the hotel right here.
- 44:51This is roughly where he was arrested in the area of
- 44:57Exposition Park. And if we, if we look at the
- 45:02area, I don't know if we would be able to see the ARCO.
- 45:08I don't know, maybe, I don't know, I don't see it.
- 45:13But that. So basically, he was, you know,
- 45:17almost 15 miles away, all right, coming back over here and also
- 45:2615 miles from the Reiner's home. Still unclear how exactly
- 45:31authorities found Nick. The local ABC affiliate KABC
- 45:34obtained footage that appeared to show Nick at a gas station
- 45:36convenience store before his arrest.
- 45:38The station also showed video of a swarm of police vehicles
- 45:41descending on Nick outside the convenience store.
- 45:44OK, this is the last part that we will read.
- 45:48Possible motive. This is this is where we want to
- 45:51try to figure out the mind of Nick Reiner, assuming again that
- 45:55he that he did perpetrate this murder.
- 46:03Neither prosecutors nor investigators have spoken yet on
- 46:06a possible motive for the alleged crime.
- 46:08There's also been much speculation about Nick's recent
- 46:10mental health and the tension between him and his parents in
- 46:13the lead up to the alleged crime.
- 46:16While some reporting around the O'Brien party suggested the
- 46:20Rhiners were growing increasingly concerned with
- 46:22Nick's behavior, the person who spoke with the time said nothing
- 46:25had happened in recent weeks to suggest Nick was capable of such
- 46:28an attack. Just three weeks ago, Rob Reiner
- 46:32seemed upbeat about Nick in an interview with NPR while
- 46:35speaking. Reflecting on their film Being
- 46:38Charlie, Reiner said he's been great, Hasn't been doing drugs
- 46:41for over six years. He's in a really good place.
- 46:44That was three months ago. Nick is officially facing 2
- 46:49counts of first degree murder, as well as a special allegation
- 46:52that he used a dangerous and deadly weapon being a knife.
- 46:55Reiner is being held in downtown Los Angeles jail without bail.
- 47:00And then let's see, let me Skippy, Skippy, Skippy and then
- 47:06go here outside the courthouse, basically the arraignment that
- 47:11didn't happen right outside the courthouse, attorney Alan
- 47:14Jackson told reporters. This is a devastating tragedy
- 47:16that has befallen the Reiner family.
- 47:19We all recognize that our hearts go out to the entire Reiner
- 47:22family. There are very, very complex and
- 47:25serious issues that are associated with this case.
- 47:28They need to be thoroughly but very carefully dealt with and
- 47:31examined and looked at and analyzed.
- 47:35He obviously was speaking off the cuff because that is a
- 47:38horrible sentence. But we get, we get what he's
- 47:41saying, right? This, this lawyerly speak again,
- 47:44though, he didn't say my client is innocent and I look forward
- 47:48to representing him in a court of law in front of a jury of his
- 47:51peers. He didn't say that.
- 47:52He was just like, hey, there's some pretty darn serious things
- 47:55here, some very complex issues at hand here, which to me his
- 47:59lawyers speak for. Yeah, he did it, but also maybe
- 48:03he's not criminally liable for it.
- 48:09That's what it seems like to me. Let's bring up a photo of the
- 48:12Rhiners in little bit younger days, but the Rhiners none the
- 48:16less. Let's see, Deanna says.
- 48:21Evidently, Nick was found in an area known for scoring
- 48:24substances, Mooney says. I doubt Conan will speak
- 48:30publicly about this. I think that he will eventually.
- 48:33I think that he will eventually. I think it will be a long time
- 48:36from now, but I I think he probably will just because
- 48:44there's so much, Francis De La Rue says the news said the
- 48:49copious amounts of blood was found in the room.
- 48:51OK, Pauline Buckles, how did he get 15 miles away when he
- 48:59couldn't drive and little to no public transportation in
- 49:02Brentwood? My guess is probably Uber or
- 49:06Lyft or some other rideshare, maybe a cab.
- 49:10That's my guess. Anytime I'm in LA, that's that's
- 49:14how I get around, which has been, it's been so long since
- 49:18I've been in LA. It's probably been six years.
- 49:24Philip Carter, I can't believe his parents didn't file an out
- 49:26of control motion on their son. And he says ARCO is S Vermont
- 49:33and Exposition Blvd. OK, let's look at this real
- 49:36quick. What just happened?
- 49:45No, I don't want to sign in S Vermont and Exposition Blvd. see
- 49:58if we can find that. OK, so, ah, there it is.
- 50:07Yeah. So it looks to me that he was.
- 50:15So here's the ARCO and I don't know the direction it was
- 50:18looking, if it was across the corner, if it was kind of this
- 50:21way or whatever, but it looked to be pretty far away in that
- 50:25video where Nick was arrested. But there is the ARCO and there
- 50:34it is right outside of Exposition Park.
- 50:38Thank you very much, Emmy, for that.
- 50:40You, you're a good little detective.
- 50:42You're a good investigator. You should not using the word
- 50:46little diminutively you'd. I'm just saying that's what my
- 50:49dad would say to me. You're a great little detective.
- 50:54Let's see. Philip Carter.
- 50:55Brentwood is the same subdivision OJ Simpson lived in.
- 50:58That's correct. Yep.
- 51:03Carlene Gavin. If you can find that picture of
- 51:05all three kids and the parents at a table at some event, the
- 51:08look on Nick's face, in my opinion, says it all.
- 51:10There was something seriously wrong with that boy.
- 51:14Let me see if I can find that picture.
- 51:18Rob Reiner. Michelle Singer.
- 51:22Kids, let's look at where they're around a table.
- 51:33Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying.
- 51:40Let's. Yeah.
- 51:46Look. It looked like he was having a
- 51:47moment for sure. It's tough, man.
- 51:51It's tough. I feel so bad for this family.
- 51:57Anyway, guys, will we ever know the motive?
- 52:00Will we ever know the motive behind the slaying of Hollywood
- 52:05icons Michelle Singer Reiner and Rob Reiner?
- 52:09I think maybe it's hard to get in the mind of a guy that I
- 52:14think is probably just mentally ill, mentally disturbed and and
- 52:18I'm not giving him an excuse. I'm not excusing his behavior,
- 52:21but it's interesting to to me that I think that he was
- 52:28experiencing mental illness. And and my question about that
- 52:31is like if I were in this position, I am one of five
- 52:34children and say, I don't know, say one of my brothers just went
- 52:40off the deep end and I go and I find my parents in their home
- 52:43having been killed and I find out to my brother who did it
- 52:47what and I know that he's mentally ill.
- 52:51What is my response in terms of my familiar familial or sibling
- 52:57responsibilities to my brother? That's tough.
- 53:03And and I think that the statement they put out was was
- 53:07beautiful and showed, like I said, some social maturity and
- 53:10some social awareness and, and some real depth to these these
- 53:16kids. So, yeah, I don't know if we'll
- 53:20ever get in his mind. We're going to try to, we're
- 53:25going to try to, but it's going to be tough.
- 53:29Let us now that we have now that we've done this, let's move on
- 53:35to a couple other headlines before we wrap up.
- 53:36True crime headlines, POW guys, we're going to be very quick
- 53:48about this. I wanted to recognize that this
- 53:51very morning, Brian Walsh was sentenced to life in prison for
- 53:54murdering and dismembering Anna Walsh.
- 53:58He was sentenced Thursday to life in prison without the
- 54:00possibility of parole after a Massachusetts jury found him
- 54:03guilty of killing and dismembering his wife, the
- 54:05mother of the three children, with a judge calling his acts
- 54:08barbaric and incomprehensible. He also, you know, the I think
- 54:18he also got where is this should be in here because it was more
- 54:26than life without possibility of parole.
- 54:28It was also some added years for the other for the other stuff.
- 54:32Hey, here's a blast from the past.
- 54:34Here's a blast from the past. Federal indictment accuses John
- 54:37Paul Miller of cyber stalking lying to investigators Dateline
- 54:42Myrtle Beach JP Miller, the embattled former pastor of the
- 54:46now defunct Solid Rock Church. You guys remember this case,
- 54:48right? You remember this case.
- 54:52Micah Francis is facing a federal cyber stalking charge as
- 54:56part of a 2 county indictment returned Wednesday in US
- 54:59District Court in Florence. The indictment also accuses
- 55:02Miller of lying to investigators after the death of his wife,
- 55:05Micah, who authorities said died by suicide in April 2024 at
- 55:10Lumber River State Park in Robeson County.
- 55:14The defendant's alleged actions were predatory, measured and
- 55:17inflicted profound trauma to the victim, her family and loved
- 55:20ones, the FBI said Thursday morning on Facebook.
- 55:23While this indictment marks the first phase of the criminal
- 55:26process, it represents A crucial step toward accountability.
- 55:29We hope this step step offers a measure of peace as the healing
- 55:34continues for the family. And if he's convicted, he could
- 55:38face up to five years in prison for cyberstalking, 2 years on
- 55:41the false statement charge and a fine of up to a quarter
- 55:43$1,000,000 scheduled to be arraigned on January 12th.
- 55:48So this is of the cyberstalking and Micah Miller.
- 55:51Micah Francis Miller. OK, a couple more real quick.
- 55:56This one was written yesterday. Burn cage found in David home
- 56:00raises questions in Celeste Rivas Hernandez death A burn
- 56:04cage incinerator has been found at a Hollywood Hills home
- 56:07formerly inhabited by the singer David, according to a private
- 56:10investigator. Steve Fisher said the burn cage
- 56:13was inside the California home where the singer, whose real
- 56:16name is David Anthony Burke, was living, but it remained
- 56:19unopened. And I think there is a photo
- 56:23there isn't. But anyway, when he talked about
- 56:25sadistic stuff, maybe that's what Steve Fisher was talking
- 56:29about. And then finally, court
- 56:31documents are detailing some events surrounding Anna.
- 56:35Anna Kepner's death. Dateline Brevard County, Florida
- 56:41A custody hearing took place in Brevard County on Wednesday
- 56:43involving the stepmother of Anna Kepner.
- 56:46No arrests have been made in Anna's case.
- 56:48No statements from the FBI. Court documents reveal still
- 56:52that the 16 year old stepbrother is a suspect in her death and
- 56:55he, along with her 14 year old brother, shared a room on the
- 56:59cruise. Thomas Hudson, the ex-husband of
- 57:02Anna's stepmother Chantelle is filing for custody of their
- 57:05younger daughter because their son has been listed as a suspect
- 57:08in Anna's death. At a hearing a week and a half
- 57:12ago, the judge sided with Chantelle Kepner, allowing their
- 57:15daughter to remain in her custody.
- 57:18It's unclear what new information will emerge from the
- 57:20hearing, but several Temple Christian employees are expected
- 57:23to testify. Let's see new, let's see.
- 57:35It just talks about Chantelle's parenting.
- 57:38So it's nothing, nothing major about the case.
- 57:41We're still trying to figure out when there are going to be
- 57:45charges on that case. So we will keep our finger on
- 57:50the pulse on that one. Now it's time for three
- 57:55questions. Here we go.
- 57:56It's three questions with Gavin Fish Pow.
- 58:04If you're new here, 3 questions is a segment that we do to end
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- 58:17You can send one question. You can send 1000 questions, and
- 58:20everything's on the table. Nothing is off the table.
- 58:22You can ask me anything. I've had a couple of
- 58:25uncomfortable questions, I got to say, but today they're
- 58:28actually pretty easy. Number one, have you thought
- 58:32about your great, great grandchildren finding your
- 58:35channel? Yeah, I am so into record
- 58:41keeping and keeping a good history.
- 58:44It's something that I'm so excited about for, for my
- 58:47generation and generations following is that it's just
- 58:51there are photos, there are videos, there are all sorts of
- 58:53things. So yeah, I hope that my great,
- 58:55great grandchildren one day will have access to this here
- 59:00channel, will be able to hear my voice, be able to see who I am,
- 59:04how I behave, how I speak. And, and I hope that they find
- 59:09me a person that is worthy of their admiration.
- 59:14But beyond that, I don't really think all that much about
- 59:18legacy. But yeah, it'd be cool.
- 59:20Question #2 You live in the PA wild.
- 59:23So Bigfoot is real. And have you seen him or her?
- 59:27Guys? Bigfoot is a thing out here.
- 59:29It is a major thing out here. Everybody believes that Bigfoot
- 59:34lives out here. The Yeti, the Sasquatch.
- 59:37We see plywood cutouts of him or her all the time.
- 59:43But no, I have never seen the big footed one.
- 59:49I have not question #3 this one's long.
- 59:52How did you go about creating Baby Gavin?
- 59:56Baby Gavin has not been on the channel for quite some time
- 59:58guys. But there for for a minute we
- 1:00:01had a little character named Baby Gavin who would introduce
- 1:00:07the show. I I got mixed feedback about
- 1:00:10Baby Gavin. So I decided to retire him and
- 1:00:15we retired him using a baby Gavin is missing game and I
- 1:00:19think in 2026 we're going to do another game like that.
- 1:00:22OK, What AI program did you use and how did you get him to do
- 1:00:25the cute little actions he did? Did you use a picture of
- 1:00:28yourself to create him? I miss him.
- 1:00:31I always look forward to seeing what he was doing next.
- 1:00:33I'd love to see him make an appearance every now and then.
- 1:00:36Well, maybe baby Gavin come come back every once in a while.
- 1:00:40I used, I used, I think I used ChatGPT at the time to make a
- 1:00:49baby picture of myself. And then once I got a picture of
- 1:00:54myself, I would have ChatGPT create an image of a baby doing
- 1:01:00something. And then I would put that head
- 1:01:03on that baby to create the image.
- 1:01:07And then I would take it at the time over to cling AI and have
- 1:01:12it animate. I would record my voice and then
- 1:01:15cling AI would would kind of marry the two together and, you
- 1:01:20know, make him talk and everything like that.
- 1:01:22That's that's how I did that. There are better ways to do it
- 1:01:24now. You know, AI is moving at a
- 1:01:27rapid, rapid pace, but that's how I did it then.
- 1:01:30And those are the three questions.
- 1:01:33Don't forget you can send in three questions to me, 3
- 1:01:37questions at gavinfish.com, three questions at
- 1:01:39gavinfish.com. I will do my best to answer all
- 1:01:42of them. And then lastly, before we call
- 1:01:44it a night and I know that I'm running a little bit late, I
- 1:01:48just want to remind you that you can always reach out to me
- 1:01:53through my website, gavinfish.com, gavinfish.com on
- 1:01:58gavinfish.com. By the way, thank you so much to
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- 1:02:13I deeply, deeply appreciate it. I also love it when you guys
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- 1:02:32And thank you. Thank you very much for doing
- 1:02:34that. Also, if you click on this
- 1:02:37little fishy icon right there, that will take you to the fish
- 1:02:39tank where you are always cordially invited to join us in
- 1:02:44the tank to talk about different things.
- 1:02:45I have found, by the way, it's going to go to media because I
- 1:02:50recently posted an old photo of myself, this one right here.
- 1:02:56Oh, it just hurts to look at it. I think I was 16 here.
- 1:02:59I really, really loved tabbed collars at the time.
- 1:03:03I love them and I like tie bars and everything.
- 1:03:05Anywho, I just found like thousands of negatives of my
- 1:03:12childhood. I and like my high school years
- 1:03:15and stuff like that. So I'm going through the process
- 1:03:17of of getting those all scanned in and I will post some of those
- 1:03:21to the tank. All right with that guys, don't
- 1:03:24want to belabour this. I bid you adieu.
- 1:03:26Thank you very much for being here tonight.
- 1:03:29Wherever you are, I hope that you take care of yourselves and
- 1:03:32I will see you on the next one, which will be tomorrow right
- 1:03:36here at this very place, 6:00 PM Eastern.
- 1:03:39Until then, take care of yourselves.
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