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- 0:00Is giving up less of your commission to your broker actually a model
- 0:05to build wealth appropriately?
- 0:07Probably not, because if you don't pay in, they don't provide any value.
- 0:12Next, if you do not have a cap and you're paying in constantly.
- 0:16What is the cap on that value?
- 0:18Could you be purchasing that value and doing whatever they
- 0:23are offering at a much less cost?
- 0:25We're gonna dive into all that and more, and we're gonna explain why a
- 0:28hybrid cap split model is absolutely the best bet and the best of both
- 0:33worlds in the real estate industry.
- 0:39What's up guys?
- 0:40Jeremy Kane, real Estate Agent Playbook and exp Realty.
- 0:44I want to ask you a question.
- 0:46Is your family and your income and your future important
- 0:49enough to run the numbers?
- 0:50A lot of times we make brokerage decisions based on all kinds of emotions.
- 0:54I like my broker, I need an office.
- 0:57All the things that I hear day in, day out, I get to keep my commission.
- 1:01Well, I'm here to tell you.
- 1:03That the hybrid model is absolutely the best of both worlds.
- 1:06And if you care enough about your family and your business to run the
- 1:09numbers, let's put some math to it.
- 1:11Eliminate the emotions and make decisions based on math for you, your
- 1:14business, your family, and your future.
- 1:16Book a call re agent wolfpack.com and would be happy to tell you
- 1:20what we're doing differently.
- 1:22But let's move on.
- 1:23Let's talk about these brokerage models.
- 1:25Let's talk about the differences and why this hybrid model is absolutely the key.
- 1:30Let's dive in.
- 1:31Okay, so first let's talk about the no split, transaction fee model.
- 1:35That's where I came from, a very lucrative model.
- 1:38When you're thinking shortsighted and you're not looking at the future, a
- 1:41lot of times I see hear agents tell me, well, I don't have enough business.
- 1:45At this model in order to, you know, come to a cap split model
- 1:49and give away so much of my money.
- 1:51Well, the problem is, is that those agents are on an island and doing the a la
- 1:56carte thing and trying to build business.
- 1:58The ones that are hungry are trying to build business and they're
- 2:00invent, reinventing the wheel.
- 2:02They're not getting the group discount on, you know, the CRMs and things
- 2:06like that, so their costs add up.
- 2:08So technically they're keeping their money, but they're paying more to
- 2:11build their business for the tools that their brokerage doesn't provide because
- 2:15of, you know, the, the income model, you just can't provide a ton of value
- 2:19if you don't have a ton coming in.
- 2:21You're, you're busy enough covering your overhead and your expenses, and so sure.
- 2:26Sometimes, you know, you have to make a little adjustment to
- 2:29the CRM that's offered, right?
- 2:31There's, there's that piece too.
- 2:33However, it comes at a cost, you know, when you're trying to
- 2:36do it as an individual agent.
- 2:38So the next thing I hear is, well, I don't have enough transactions
- 2:42to, to make that make sense.
- 2:45And so when we're thinking about that, people that come to our group, that
- 2:50obviously provides a ton of value.
- 2:52We talk about the value stack all the time on this channel, on this podcast, right?
- 2:56Agents are coming over and they're averaging.
- 2:58Three Xing their income just by being a part of the group, right?
- 3:03You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with, and so if
- 3:06you're, you know, getting a ton of value, you're getting a ton of social media
- 3:11training, a ton of real estate investment training, a ton of, you know, tools and
- 3:14resources to help you build your business.
- 3:17That makes a difference.
- 3:19And so if you can take your income at this, you know, cheaper shop
- 3:23and you can three exit, does it matter what the split is?
- 3:27Because you've far succeeded any savings that you had, you know, down here trying
- 3:32to generate your own business with lack of training and lack of leadership.
- 3:36So that is absolutely the key when thinking about these
- 3:40transactions fee models, because they can't give you anything and.
- 3:45Therefore they, you can't build your business appropriately.
- 3:49And so the others who are having access to all of that, having access to next
- 3:54level training, having the camaraderie of a group that's always continuing to level
- 3:58up, those people are surpassing you and taking your transactions right out of your
- 4:02pocket because they're doing the things that are changing the industry forever.
- 4:06So in short, the hybrid model exp is one of them.
- 4:1018 80 20 split with $16,000 cap capping what you're paying into the company, but
- 4:15still requiring every agent to pay in.
- 4:18Provides the company with the ability to provide you resources, access to KV core,
- 4:23which gives you a website and X level CRM access to a file transaction management,
- 4:29you know, account so that you're.
- 4:31Very organized and everything's there.
- 4:33You also get access to the cloud-based brokerage, which saves you so much time
- 4:36and so much money and so much energy.
- 4:38And so all of these things as you move forward, health insurance, you know,
- 4:42pay-per-click, making it rain software, all of these things that are provided
- 4:47because the brokerage can, you know, get mass membership into that and therefore
- 4:52it's covered with your monthly fee.
- 4:54Provides value.
- 4:55And so if you have that as exp, you have the Wolfpack training, free
- 4:59access to the Social Agent Academy.
- 5:00Mike Shard, free access to Louis Galt's amazing systems and processes.
- 5:04Training free access to my foundation building.
- 5:07As you can see, when you start to stack up the value for absolutely free
- 5:12because the way the revenue share works.
- 5:14It makes a huge difference.
- 5:15We'll talk about revenue sharing a little bit, but now let's
- 5:17transition a little bit here.
- 5:18Let's transition to the opposite end of the spectrum.
- 5:21These luxury brands are these, you know, longer tenured, real
- 5:25estate companies, so to speak.
- 5:26They're in the split model with no cap.
- 5:29Now that you know is a little bit different, and I'm gonna challenge
- 5:33you right now, if you are at one of these companies and you do not have
- 5:37a cap, think about this right now.
- 5:39Think about, okay, the last 12 months, I want you to write every single one of your
- 5:43deals that you did down, write their name.
- 5:46Right how you came across them.
- 5:48Okay.
- 5:49Next I want to see, okay, how much was your gross commission?
- 5:52How much was the commission offered off the top before
- 5:55everybody got their hands in there?
- 5:57What's that number now?
- 5:59Put your net commission what you actually took home from that closing there.
- 6:04Obviously before taxes, cuz we all know we have that.
- 6:07We can't change that unfortunately.
- 6:08So if you make that list, Then we're gonna look at it, step back and take a look.
- 6:13Okay.
- 6:13How many, how many of those relationships came as a result of your brokerage, of
- 6:18the sexy branding, of the, you know, great tech they offer of having an office?
- 6:25How many of those agents came as a result of your company and how many came as a
- 6:30result of your personal relationships?
- 6:32Okay.
- 6:33So now that you have that, Take a step back and say, okay, well you know who,
- 6:39who's generating the business, right?
- 6:41Most likely it's going to be you.
- 6:45Okay?
- 6:45And all of those models, whatever it is, it's probably you.
- 6:49Now look at your, your difference between your net and your gross.
- 6:53If that number was shrink down and your net was only $16,000 less than your
- 6:57gross, would that change your life?
- 6:59Could you afford to pay for any of those leads that you
- 7:03just listed, that you closed?
- 7:05Could you afford to pay for that portion of why they came,
- 7:08if they came from the company?
- 7:10Okay, so if say you got.
- 7:12You know, a lead from your website that your company offers
- 7:15that has really sexy branding.
- 7:17Okay, sure.
- 7:18That's, that's probably a company, you know, company deal.
- 7:22All right, so how many of those were company generated?
- 7:26How many of them were you generated?
- 7:28I'm gonna tell you right now, most of them are gonna be you generated
- 7:32unless you're in some sort of, you know, lead flow or something like that.
- 7:36But then your net income versus your gross income absolutely goes out the water.
- 7:40And so if you have more questions about leads and and broker provided
- 7:44leads, check out this video right here.
- 7:46We don't have to go down that rabbit hole as you know how I feel about paid leads.
- 7:50So that's the, the problem when we kind of get to that next level and
- 7:53we're, we're producing, you know, I've looked at agents that have given
- 7:57away a hundred thousand dollars a year just because they didn't have a cap.
- 8:01And then when they really step back and look at it, they're like, oh,
- 8:04well I'm generating all the business.
- 8:06I can probably, you know, if I'm have a hundred thousand dollars a
- 8:09year to spend in excess, maybe I can provide, you know, that video.
- 8:13I can pay that videographer for that listing, or maybe I can pay the extra
- 8:17money for that sexy, you know, trifold flyer or whatever the, the thing is
- 8:22that got that person over the hump.
- 8:24I'm sure that your, your net net at the end will be absolutely completely
- 8:29different because those brands.
- 8:31Pay a lot, and they want you to feel like their company is the brand.
- 8:35The truth is, is that you are the brand as we talk about
- 8:37all the time on this channel.
- 8:39So that is the difference.
- 8:40So now we transition to the hybrid model and to do this as referenced
- 8:46before, let's check your numbers.
- 8:48Okay, let's look at your numbers.
- 8:50Let's see if it's worth a conversation.
- 8:53Right?
- 8:5350,000, $25,000 more a year when that, when that difference
- 8:58between net and gross.
- 9:00If that's worth a conversation and you care about math and you care
- 9:02about your, your finances over the brokerage, you care about your
- 9:06family's future over the broker's, you know, family's future, let's talk.
- 9:11It's, I promise you that running the numbers will absolutely
- 9:14give you a perspective.
- 9:15I don't care what the brokerage is, I don't care who tried to
- 9:18get you to join the brokerage.
- 9:19Let's look at the math and let's talk about the value that you're
- 9:22missing, you know, on one side or the other, and develop a plan.
- 9:26And if it's the best plan for you to stay where you're at, absolutely.
- 9:28Let's collaborate.
- 9:29Let's hang out, let's do deals together, but.
- 9:32The truth is, and I know that when we run the numbers and we remove emotion from
- 9:36it, then it's a whole different story.
- 9:38Okay?
- 9:38You're looking at somebody that left his dad's brokerage because
- 9:41the numbers made more sense, okay?
- 9:44And that's, that's where you need to understand that, you know,
- 9:47his dad's transaction brokerage.
- 9:49So if we're talking easy, easy money, when there's no cap, Right.
- 9:53Easy, easy comparison.
- 9:55A hundred thousand dollars a year for top producers.
- 9:57Big time deal.
- 9:59Okay.
- 9:59When you're talking transaction model and I can make the numbers
- 10:02work, is it worth a conversation for you to level up your business?
- 10:05We'll talk then.
- 10:06Okay.
- 10:07So why is the, why is the hybrid model so powerful?
- 10:10Well, you're able to provide all of that value.
- 10:13You're able to get those group discounts on KV core and.
- 10:16Stanley Morgan Shareworks and all these tools that we use in our business, and
- 10:21you're able to plug into those and help manage your money and, and level up
- 10:24your business and all of those things.
- 10:26And so that's why, because we are, we still have to pay a
- 10:30$16,000 cap into the company.
- 10:33However, X exp utilizes that $16,000 cap in ways that no other brokerage
- 10:39could, even the other cap split models, and there's so many cap
- 10:43split models that were out there.
- 10:45EXPs not the first, it's just the best in my opinion.
- 10:49And now there's a bunch coming in that are trying to copy the
- 10:52EXP model, make little tweaks.
- 10:54The funny part is they always make the tweaks on the front
- 10:57end, on the production end.
- 10:58Okay.
- 10:59And they, they then make tweaks that are negatively affecting you
- 11:03on the revenue share end, which we'll talk about in a second.
- 11:05But they're making the tweaks, oh, we're gonna offer you free listing marketing.
- 11:08Okay.
- 11:09Well, most new agents are open to this cloud-based brokerage thing,
- 11:13aren't gonna have a ton of listings.
- 11:14So that free listing package is absolutely not.
- 11:17Valuable to anyone.
- 11:18Okay, so the tenured agent can have a free listing package.
- 11:22I don't know.
- 11:23Do you want your branding to look exactly like every other
- 11:25agent at your company's branding?
- 11:27You're not set setting yourself apart.
- 11:29You're, you're paying into the machine.
- 11:31You're building their brand.
- 11:33Right.
- 11:34And so if you can get a listing package put together, super easy, a VA can do it.
- 11:39You can do it on Canva, that's your brand, and you, then that
- 11:43doesn't really make sense.
- 11:44So they're, you know, or they lower the split on the front end.
- 11:49Okay?
- 11:49If you lower the split, you lower the cap.
- 11:51Then the backend revenue share goes out the window, which that's the
- 11:55brilliant piece of the exp model, is that exit strategy, right?
- 11:59And so if you're saying, okay, well this is that and this is that, whatever.
- 12:03And conversely, these other capsulate models and even some of the no
- 12:07cap models are incentivizing team leads and brokers to come over.
- 12:11Well, that's great for the broker.
- 12:13But the people that are influenced to come over underneath them are
- 12:16absolutely not getting that value.
- 12:18And now the broker's stuck here and the agents below them are
- 12:21struggling and they're wondering why?
- 12:23Why does this really make sense?
- 12:25Well, here's this listing package.
- 12:26Well, I don't have a listing.
- 12:27I have 10 buyers.
- 12:28Okay, well here's.
- 12:29Whatever they're offering.
- 12:31And so it's really shortsighted in the fact that you're paying less and the
- 12:35company's able to give less back is huge.
- 12:38So the difference lies with the hybrid cap split model.
- 12:41In the exit strategy.
- 12:43Exp is using that $16,000 cap, giving 50% of the revenue that the company.
- 12:48Retains off the top back to the agents for growing the company.
- 12:53Okay.
- 12:53The seven tier system hasn't changed in two years.
- 12:56It hasn't changed since it became, you know, a solid business model.
- 13:00And so once you're doing that, you're obviously.
- 13:04Building and building and building the nuances of the revenue share model that
- 13:08other companies have tried to exploit by changing the percentages as top heavy
- 13:12and things like that are absolutely not creating a downward spiral, and
- 13:19they're not helping you in the long run.
- 13:21They're helping you for the now.
- 13:23Also exp throws in, Hey, we have this retirement model where you can park
- 13:28your license in the commercial division.
- 13:29You don't have to be producing in order to continue building this revenue share.
- 13:33Well, by the time you go to retire, Absolutely right now
- 13:38you're gonna start with bringing on your peers and doing that.
- 13:41Well, you guys are all gonna be aging.
- 13:42However, if you're bringing on new people and they're younger and and
- 13:46more hungry, then some of those bigger tiers at the bottom will
- 13:49build out and continue to build out throughout your tenure of life, right?
- 13:54So, so that's the biggest thing is a lot of the models have flipped
- 13:58EXPs model on its head so that you get compensated more for.
- 14:01The top half of your, your revenue share.
- 14:04And you know, some of them don't even have seven tiers, but once
- 14:07you get down to the seventh tier, you're not as fairly compensated.
- 14:10So you as an individual have more of a, you know, a idea to
- 14:16build your top tiers, right?
- 14:18Instead of building your partner's tiers out.
- 14:20So at exp you build out your want, first tier, second tier, third tier.
- 14:24But then you're continued to be invested because those tiers, as you move down
- 14:27the seventh tier is the most compensated tier, then you're able to, okay, well
- 14:32I'm gonna help somebody on my sixth tier get, get a killer agent on the
- 14:35seventh tier and, and go from there.
- 14:37And so there are nuances to it, but the true biggest piece is you
- 14:41don't have to be producing anymore.
- 14:43So all these other models that are, you know, flashing the pan, looking
- 14:47like exp lowering the upfront cost, you know, leveraging your.
- 14:51Your top two to three tiers, they are very shortsighted because that's
- 14:56while you're in production, that's while you're doing the things.
- 14:59While you have people on your fifth tier, maybe you get a brand new
- 15:02agent on your fifth tier and they become the next top producing agent.
- 15:05Well, you don't really have any, you know, incentive to build them up.
- 15:09And so that exit strateg is absolutely something to consider.
- 15:13And so here's the deal.
- 15:15Facts only numbers for me, they will be different for you.
- 15:19Absolutely.
- 15:20$45,000 paid into exp.
- 15:22Over seven figures in net Commission income to me over six figures in
- 15:27stock account currently as we sit right now in my stock account.
- 15:32Okay, and a three to $4,000 residual income that will only increase
- 15:36as I build out my organization.
- 15:38So if you're worried about a little bit of split on front and $16,000,
- 15:42the little piddly numbers, you're talking massive growth in 25 months.
- 15:46I have built those exact numbers that I'm telling you about.
- 15:50Because of the model, cuz the people I surrounded myself with and
- 15:54what I'm doing differently for my organization and building it out.
- 15:58I have an exit strategy.
- 15:59I have developed passive income, I have developed, you know, a very good
- 16:03stock account, based on the company policy and stock awards and all of that.
- 16:08And I also have.
- 16:09Absolutely crushed it in G C I as a result of this model and taking a
- 16:14chance, again, removing emotion, saying goodbye to my dad's brokerage, saying
- 16:19goodbye to my dad as a managing broker.
- 16:21Coming over here, building my own thing, and absolutely crushing it.
- 16:25So if those numbers, turn some heads there, I would love to talk
- 16:28to you re agent wolfpack.com.
- 16:30It'll tell you what we're doing differently.
- 16:31It'll allow you to book a call and we can chat, but the hybrid model is
- 16:35absolutely something that you cannot, you know, overlook because it is the best
- 16:40of both worlds and it is changing lives.
- 16:43For the better.
- 16:44Thanks so much for tuning in, real Estate Agent Playbook, Jeremy Kane exp Realty.
- 16:48Please like, comment, subscribe, and if you're listening on the podcast, share
- 16:51this with your favorite real estate agent.
- 16:53I would be happy to help.
- 16:54Bye-bye.