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Old Athletes, Walmart, and Criticism · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that John plays basketball against some
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  Speaker 2: teenagers and finds out that George Lucas was making Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars up as he went along. Meanwhile, I evict my
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  Speaker 2: uninvited bird guests and complain about fast food prices like
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  Speaker 2: an old man shouting at the clouds. Plus a conversation
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  Speaker 2: about why negativity is so easy and why hope takes courage.
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  Speaker 2: Today's episode is not sponsored by Oranges Now one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent Pulp, but first award from our actual.
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  Speaker 3: Sponsor, Johnny. The long Dark Night of the Soul is over.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's over for you, John, but I'm still
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of my Maybe travails.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe overselling the episode a little bit, But travail's.
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  Speaker 2: Is a word I wish had survived.
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  Speaker 1: I think you just brought it back.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm bringing back travail's. Yea tribulation. Tribulations is
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  Speaker 2: always associated with, like the end times, the tribulation, But
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  Speaker 2: it tribulation. You're going through trials and tribulations, right, You
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  Speaker 2: usually saw those together. You never saw tribulations without trials.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's if you see tribulation by itself, it means you.
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  Speaker 1: Know whatever, patology alone, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But travails. We got to get in back into travails.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you need to prevail over your trivails.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of y'all out here.
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  Speaker 1: I thought of words of the day because now I
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  Speaker 1: grew up. Sadie is. Sadie is, like, dude, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many Bibles she has, and the kind of the
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  Speaker 1: way her brain works is she will hyper focus. Right,
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  Speaker 1: She's been hyper focused for months now, and she's like annotating.
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  Speaker 1: She's she's gone through all four Gospels, the Book of Acts, Romans,
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  Speaker 1: she's an Ecclesiastes, like she's going in and she's using
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  Speaker 1: commentaries and writing notes and she color codes everything. She's
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  Speaker 1: very artistic. And I was so I talk to her
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  Speaker 1: about Bible translations and stuff. And I grew up reading
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  Speaker 1: The New King James. Okay, my dad didn't want me to.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to read the Living Bible. But I was
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  Speaker 1: I was pretentious.
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  Speaker 2: You were like, that's a paraphrase, Dad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, dad, I think I'll I think I
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  Speaker 1: think I know, I'll take.
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  Speaker 2: It and make a paraphrase and I'll preach that, right.
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  Speaker 1: I got it from here, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know what he meant, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that I think that my ministry speaks for itself
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the results anyway, Yeah it does. But
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  Speaker 1: New King James, I realized, gave me a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of words in my vocabulary that kids my age. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I used them all the time, but
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  Speaker 1: like I realized, like you know, when I would read
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  Speaker 1: other things I have, I still I will go to
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  Speaker 1: this cache of words in my head that you only get,
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  Speaker 1: like you perpitiation from the Bible. Yeah, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's the Bible or Nothing. Sure so, And that's the
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  Speaker 1: title of our next podcast, the Bible or Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: The Bible or Not. The Travail of two Men. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you need to if you don't listen, if you fail
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  Speaker 2: to plan, you plan to fail in your travails and
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  Speaker 2: you won't prevail.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Come on now, am I right? I don't know? Seriously?
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  Speaker 1: Am I right?
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  Speaker 2: Seriously? I don't know if I'm right. You were at
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  Speaker 2: camp last week. That's why we didn't have an episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was your fault this time. It wasn't my big travels.
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  Speaker 1: It was my fault.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't I was here, I was home. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: had one show that weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't you come to camp?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't. It was like across
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  Speaker 2: the states because I'm fifty two and fifty two yearls
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  Speaker 2: don't go to camp. Dude.
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  Speaker 1: We were in a cabin that slept fifty two. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you tell me that wasn't perfectly made for you
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  Speaker 1: to come bring your white.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like a warehousing situation.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was awesome. Everyone had their own bed, like
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  Speaker 1: their own late queens. Well, I hope so at fifty two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how many people were there? I think we took counting adults,
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  Speaker 1: probably took twenty to twenty three. Okay, so it is
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  Speaker 1: there's room play racketball in there, so there's always room
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  Speaker 1: for you. It was. It was great. Actually had a
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  Speaker 1: good time. I didn't really have any responsibilities except so
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  Speaker 1: they wanted a camp nurse handy, So right, Laura was there.
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  Speaker 1: If something went.
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  Speaker 2: Wrong, Well that, how does that your responsibility?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly?
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  Speaker 2: You're just taking credit for that.
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  Speaker 1: Just driving her, you know. Sadie wrote up with the kids.
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  Speaker 1: So me and Laura went up and had her own
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  Speaker 1: kind of area down below. Andrew and Julie came. They
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  Speaker 1: did all the food and everything. So we help with that,
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of did dishes and trash. That was
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  Speaker 1: kind of my thing.
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  Speaker 2: We just spent the week hitting on the camp nurse creep,
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  Speaker 2: What a Creep?
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  Speaker 1: And writing She worked and I worked too, but sweet
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  Speaker 1: her computers out.
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  Speaker 2: I sure you got a lot done.
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  Speaker 1: I was very productive.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's about achievement with John. If you didn't know by now.
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  Speaker 1: So Andrew came in one day. This was on your birthday.
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  Speaker 2: This is our senior pastor.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Wor came in one day. I was in there working,
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  Speaker 1: so I do, put your computer down, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: go play basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, you're like, it's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to get hurt again.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to hurt myself.
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  Speaker 1: Because it has been about five years since I broke
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  Speaker 1: an ankle. So I mean it has been since before
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  Speaker 1: I was saying the last time to play basketball, didn't
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  Speaker 1: mean you go out to the gym, place out eleven
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  Speaker 1: one day and play a little bit. Went ou from.
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  Speaker 1: I think we played racketball, but I think I went
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  Speaker 1: there and shots and I don't know, it's been it's
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  Speaker 1: been a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did shoots ball that were old. But that's
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  Speaker 2: a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to these outside courts in this really
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  Speaker 1: nice park and he's got a ball he bought. We
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  Speaker 1: go in and we're just kind of playing around, Like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I've not touched the ball probably eight years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Like okay, yeah, it all came flooding back.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't that That was crazy? All of a sudden, I
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  Speaker 1: hit two, three, four threes in a.
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  Speaker 2: Row, like all the y are gone.
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  Speaker 1: I could shoot again. I was like, this is great.
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  Speaker 1: Then these two boys walk over, how old fourteen and seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, both about six foot two, six foot three.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, Andrews about what five foot two? I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's in shoes. Yeah, I'm five to nine. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not like yeat and they're come over and they're like
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  Speaker 1: trying to hustle us. We all should play.
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  Speaker 2: It was like we're not really good sandbagging.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, guys, well we'll shoot. It was
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  Speaker 1: like oh really, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so they didn't say, hey, let's just do
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  Speaker 2: they'll team up with each other. Well whatever. It was
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  Speaker 2: like us against you.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to play us. I was like, dude, And
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  Speaker 1: finally they they asked enough. You know, it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: what this is gonna be a good story when we're
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  Speaker 1: another Yeah, you know, so I said yes, and uh.
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  Speaker 2: I heard you told me this story and because we
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  Speaker 2: called you, you prevailed. Well, somehow we played a long game.
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  Speaker 2: What peop don't understand about this is Andrew is fifty two.
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  Speaker 2: No sixty two, sorry, sixty two. That's a difference.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew is like top in the state.
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  Speaker 2: He is in the best cardiovascular shape of his life.
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  Speaker 1: Probably he's in the best cardiovascular shape of my life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's quick, and so I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: so immediately we just kind of whal, guys, we're not
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  Speaker 1: very good and we're not you know, but okay, But
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  Speaker 1: I also know Andrew short. He's also a post player.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't play outside. Yeah, he posts up on big
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  Speaker 1: guys and it drives crazy because that he they can't
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  Speaker 1: do anything about it. He just pushes you, you know. Now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we immediately Andrew stole like three passes two balls, and
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  Speaker 1: we were like we went up big. Immediately They're like,
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  Speaker 1: these old guys are fast. So that to feel good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did for a second, and then yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: I played them for about an hour and then it
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  Speaker 1: all went away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you said you guys went a long time without
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  Speaker 2: making a basket.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we got them up to like and some
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  Speaker 1: of their family gathered on the sidelines. It was like
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  Speaker 1: a big thing. Okay, we had like a crowd music playing.
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  Speaker 1: It was like this thing, and and the family was
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  Speaker 1: on our side. A slow clap were really yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: were like, yeah, there were dad's they were.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they're rooting for the old guys.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, at some point Tom Brady became not a
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  Speaker 2: villain to me. He became like like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know, they're not tearing his achilles right now.
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  Speaker 2: He became aspirational. You go, he's running away from guys
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  Speaker 2: who are trained to kill him and are half his age.
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  Speaker 2: Yea and our three hundred pound and he is forty two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go tom Brady. At some point Tom Brady. I rooted
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  Speaker 2: for Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 1: We all couldn't stand He's not had a stood but
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  Speaker 1: ice cream in thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: You got a root for that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know that?
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  Speaker 2: I said? It's in his biography. He eats avocado ice cream. Oh, come,
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  Speaker 2: that's his treat. He eats like savory ice creams. His
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  Speaker 2: trainer is like, he's so he still does like if
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  Speaker 2: you see him on TV now, he still looks chisel,
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  Speaker 2: he looks better than ever, and you go, this is
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  Speaker 2: a man who's never enjoyed anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well I was. I was with it till the ice cream.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it gross. I was like, it's like savory
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  Speaker 2: ice cream.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm gonna live, I want to live.
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  Speaker 2: I want to live.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, go ahead, So the teen family's rooting for you.
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  Speaker 1: Long story short, we got to fourteen playing the fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: We were up and they too late for it to
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  Speaker 1: be a short story. And literally I couldn't move. I
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  Speaker 1: mean could move, but I couldn't shoot. I can't get
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  Speaker 1: my arms up, couldn't. And also that ball I was
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  Speaker 1: hitting all these threes with Andrew bought a girl's ball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So it was twenty eight point five. So
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  Speaker 1: when we were down there were playing with So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, wonder I could hit shots. You
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  Speaker 1: know that fill. Oh they're playing with different now we're
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  Speaker 1: playing with We have this whole games without guys, so
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  Speaker 1: it's all lamps for us. Like I can't shoot anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot because you can't just go eight years.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if you ever played with one of those
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  Speaker 2: youth footballs and then you get a real like football
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  Speaker 2: that you can't even get your hand all the way around,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you need big, huge hands to throw
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  Speaker 2: this ball properly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were kind of worried that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to beat him now they were feeling it. Yeah, and
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: so they were there all of her stuff because just
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  Speaker 1: pick and roll the whole time. They called us like
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  Speaker 1: white Bill Russell's is what they said.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny that they even knew who the Bill
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  Speaker 2: Russell was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Andrew and I was like, dude, I'm dying.
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  Speaker 1: Like I had a towel. I couldn't see anything because
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  Speaker 1: I had to go wipe my eyes because the sweat.
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  Speaker 1: Was Like, dude, I'm dying. I cannot get this last point.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty five minutes to get the last point. And
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: so literally I was just like, we gotta do something.
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  Speaker 1: So and Andrew took the ball down the left, left
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  Speaker 1: handed behind the back pass to me. They collapse on me.
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  Speaker 1: No one expected the other old guy right handed behind
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  Speaker 1: the back pass back to Andrew, who's open under the goal,
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  Speaker 1: he shoots, it rolls around in the rim for about minutes, falls,
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  Speaker 1: and the crowd goes wild. And Andrew and I retired
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  Speaker 1: as champions after.
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  Speaker 2: That, So rematch you.
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  Speaker 1: I can't fils it was bad. Yeh, it was fun.
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  Speaker 2: You beat the kids.
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  Speaker 1: That was a camp experience. I mean, that's like the
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  Speaker 1: old days. Man.
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  Speaker 2: And now they have a story too. You wonder, I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if they're telling I don't think version they're going
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  Speaker 2: to tell.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're telling it really. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: their dads are telling it. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: They take the love. They had to take heat at
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  Speaker 2: the dinner table from the family.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was great. Crazy thing was the guys have
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  Speaker 1: been recording some of it and they did not get that.
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  Speaker 1: Last place they had it, we'd be putting it on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. Oh yeah, my profile somewhere. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: post anymore. Gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just put it in super slow mo some inspiration.
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  Speaker 2: Charriot's a fire on it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it would have been great. I did
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  Speaker 1: tell it Sunday. It was one of those funny things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm preaching on justice, but I had to tell the story.
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  Speaker 1: So I just somehow, somehow, awkwardly. Well, because the Sunday
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  Speaker 1: is about you can't say that. It's the proverb about
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  Speaker 1: those who act like we didn't know, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, And you know, kind of the Nazi Germany
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  Speaker 1: folks who act like they didn't know after the fact,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and how God knows if you knew or not,
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I was like, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: one thing the boys can't say is that they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Know because we told that's how you drew it into.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and the guy people looked at me
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  Speaker 1: like crickets. Yeah, guys, you know, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: tell you yeah, I just want to tell that story.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, these kids were Nazis turning your Bible. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: let's go to proverbs. John That was you know what's
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  Speaker 2: inspirational to me? Though? What's that advertisers? Oh yeah, not really,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: but we do appreciate them and they keep us, help
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: us keep the show going, and we appreciate them for that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a minute, Johnny, you are a few words
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  Speaker 1: Well, we missed you, and also happy birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I know we called you there, we did. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: That was very nice. Yeah, I'm old, really old. I
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: have a couple of things, a little bits of news
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  Speaker 2: before we do the segments of the show. I have, Well,
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  Speaker 2: i have Johnny and Friends tonight, but it's too late
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  Speaker 2: for people to get tickets to that, and I think
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: it's sold out anyway. But I'm doing that my local show.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm doing the opera again next Wednesday. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: they invited me last minute, so that's really cool, pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: And for the listeners July eighth, and the.
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  Speaker 2: Tickets are available on my website johnnyw dot com. The
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: other thing that's news is we are planning tentatively to
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: add a second show to my BJU show because the
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: first one sold out so fast.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like seve hundred and fifty seats theater in
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  Speaker 2: BJU Theater in Knoxville, Tennessee, which is my hometown. So
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  Speaker 2: we sold it out so fast and we're sixty days
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  Speaker 2: out from the date August twenty ninth. But we're thinking
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  Speaker 2: of adding a matinee and just taping, like trying to
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: tape new special get us a new content so that
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: by the time this goes live, that ticket link should
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: be up on my website. Go look for it. If
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: it's not there, that means I have pulled the plug
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  Speaker 2: on it. But I think it's happening. That's why I
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  Speaker 2: say tentatively. But with the first the second show is
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  Speaker 2: definitely happening. The seven o'clock show is just that it's
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  Speaker 2: sold out, but I know some more people wanted tickets
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  Speaker 2: to that because it was a lot of demand for
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  Speaker 2: those tickets. I was so surprised when it sold out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm never I'm never like, well, of course it's sold out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm amazing. I'm like what, I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very excited, and we're going to try to
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  Speaker 2: fill up another one. So there'll be a hard full
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  Speaker 2: court press speaking of basketball term, so we have full
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  Speaker 2: court press to try to sell those seven hundred tickets
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  Speaker 2: to the mattin a show if it happened, So look
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  Speaker 2: for those tickets. Tell a friend come to Knoxville and
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  Speaker 2: see me record my new special.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny w j O NNIW dot.
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  Speaker 2: Com dot com, August twenty nine, and we love you. Yeah, John,
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  Speaker 2: let's do your segment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my it's my segment. We call what they
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  Speaker 1: talked about that William Lonsdale Watkinson born in eighteen thirty eight, English,
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  Speaker 1: Wesleyan Methodist minister, editor and prolific author. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: i'd call him Lonnie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he likes Lonnie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a guy from England would like that.
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  Speaker 1: He says, but denunciatry rhetoric is so much easier and
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  Speaker 1: cheaper than good works and proves a popular temptation. Yet
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  Speaker 1: it is far better to light the candle than to
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  Speaker 1: curse the darkness. That's good stuff, denuncia tory rhetoric. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you think about a guy writing, you know, one hundred
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: years ago and yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't even know how bad it was. Really
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: good with with social media.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And so the series we're doing is called Justice and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the Proverbs, and I told the church it's something I
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: struggle with, is the tension between thinking and saying the
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: right thing and then also doing the right thing and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: not knowing what all to do that you know, Lonnie
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't have understood what it was like to have a
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: device in your hand that let you know what was
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: going on in every remote part of the world. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: that's good in terms of meeting the need. And it's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: also like really overwhelming. You don't know where to start.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: And I think, and you have to choose a side
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: on everything, and like you said, you're getting the negative
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: denouncing take that's so easy.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: The dunking. We just dunk on each other now in
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: social media, it's not even about And if you stay
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: silent on an issue, that's wrong too. If you go, well,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it, well you should know, right,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: and you should have known to speak up against.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: This all that it takes, what all it takes for
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: evil to prevail, for good men to stay silent and something.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: And that's fine, but I doubt they meant a tweet, right.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: They had to come to that conclusion. You know. When
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I wrote the book with Reggie on racism, it was
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: such an interesting like it's almost like a science experiment
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: of how people either view you or or you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: think of you. After that, and somebody would ask me, like, oh,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: you're the racism guy now like that, I was going
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to make my whole ministry about that, and I was like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't even know. No, I'm not, And
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we have civil rights activists and others. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: but it's also one of those things of like, Okay,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: when could I ever say enough or do enough? And
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I need to stay consistent, right, I need to be
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: consistent on this also that things are going to change
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and language is going to change, and you know, we
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: really tried to get to the place of, hey, be
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: willing to change the way you think is what the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: gospel really cause you to do? And repentance itself in
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the original language is a lot about turning your mind
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a different way. And I think it's when we are
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: not curious or we consider certainty to be almost as
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: important like a fruit of the spirit. I mean, I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: read the fruits of the spirit of the Church of
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the day is like a certainty is not in here right?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Right? It's not well, that's what social media is, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: it's what kind of politics is ready fire aim right?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like not even don't steady yourself, don't
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: even make sure you have the right information. Just find
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: an enemy and shoot at him and then we'll figure
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: out the rest later. We'll figure out a narrative to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: craft around it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: You know, that same idea. We learn to talk about
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: how the kids date these days, and it's a similar concept.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: They rarely go on dates, especially in their like mid teens.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: When we were kids, if you wanted to get to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: know somebody then you wouldn't know her. You just know
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of her and met her at school or whatever. You'd go, hey,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: do you want to go to a movie Friday night? Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to dinner in a movie. And the idea was, we're
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: gonna get to know each other in that experience. We're
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: gonna sit and talk at dinner, and we're gonna go
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: do whatever. And if he's like that didn't go well
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: or that went well, determine whether you yep, second date
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: or not. Now they don't really start going out till
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: they're already like quote unquote boyfriend girlfriend almost or.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: At least you've done recon There's a million things you
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: can do to find out and know that person.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: So they're terrified to just go do the experience. They're
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: not the curiosity of it all, which is supposed to
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: be the fun part. They in fact, you have to
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: keep it secret because if anyone at school finds out
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: because of the phones, even that you were thinking about it,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it ruins. I can't tell you any kids I've seen
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: say you'd be like, yes, someone likes someone, and then
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: next day she's like, well that ended because everyone found
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: out about it, and now one of them is embarrassed,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's like and I think that was
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: always the case with us as well, but now just
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: imagine that if when we went home it was all
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: over the digital airwaves as well. Through between our.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Fat they were talking about that, about the birth rate plummeting,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and they attributed a lot of it to that of
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: like people aren't having like casual sexual encounters, which that's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: probably good, but it's not even that. It's like, like
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you said, they're afraid to be put in any cringey
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: moment where they might fall in love and then get
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: married and guitar. Yeah, and then you know, so it's like, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: of course everything is gonna like social interaction is plummeting,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: so yes, the birth rate will also plummet. When social
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: interaction plummets, everything is going to be a cascading effect
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: from that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's far better to light the candle, meaning do something, Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because like the bonfire light candle.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Some proverb like that too, that said something like any
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: old mule can kick a barn down. It takes you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: fix someone special to build a barn. Any old mule
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: can kick a barn down, you know, and it's like
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. It's like it's so easy,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and I mean, and I have a lot of friends
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: who are like we get together and we gossip and whatever.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's like the whole what's the great quote about average minds?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Average minds discuss h Evan, it's simple minds discuss people.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Brilliant minds or deep minds discuss ideas. So if you're
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: going to really have a conversation, let's talk about ideas.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: But most people stay about people, and they're just that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: why we stay on this level because it's so much
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: more fun to talk about people. It's like, can you
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: believe they did that?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Just talking trash about people? Man, it's proverbs.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's addictive.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Proverbs calls it dainty Morsels. Right, well, look there's a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: party or your podcast right there, Dainty Morsels with John
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Johns dot com. Because it's it does it tastes good
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: right to God to have something negative to say, yeah, yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it feels like you have Well, it's it's control and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it's also deflection away from you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Right, you can say, like I can make this person
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a little bite sized thing and I can rule, I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: can lord over that. Well, at least I'm not that right, Like, yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: it's a it's fascinating, but yeah, it's way easier. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: we see that with mud slinging and politics and all that,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: because it's just wayser to denounce and create a boogeyman
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that we all can agree as a boogeyman versus like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what are we building? Right, You'll be judged by what
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you build in the end. I hope, I hope We're
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: not going to have all generation. It's like, look at
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: all this stuff and you tore down what a great dude? Like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I hope we're literally never gonna settle for that. Yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: as far as a legacy, that's not a legacy. No
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: legacies are about building.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And building requires staying put. It requires consistency. It requires
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: not checking out of relationships or out of commitments just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: when they're hard.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It requires feel like you're talking to.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Men Nuance, Johnny, I think you know, I think like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the I think the you know, the thing I told
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the church on in terms of matters of justice or
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: fairness or poverty and things that we affect. So one
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like you got to find your compassion again. We read
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a lot about Jesus who had compassion on the people.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: They look like sheep without a shepherd, and they were harassed,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and they were you know, he saw them, and or
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the blind man who was crying out for help and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: everyone told him to be quiet and shut up, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Jesus heard him. It's noticing with these phones in our hands,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it's noticing.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Just looking up. Yeah, somebody said that at the other day.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They were like, the greatest gift you can give someone
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: nowadays is attention. Your attention, your attention, because we have
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: so many distractions for our time and so many it's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: so splintered. All of our attention span is so splintered. Yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it's good. Yeah, John, let's do my segments. Let's start
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: with old jokes. We call it joke about that John.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: My wife yelled from upstairs and asked, do you ever
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: get a shooting pain across your body like someone's got
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a voodoo do all of you and they're stabbing it?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I said no. She said, how about now you know
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: what's coming because it's happened to You've had that conversation, John,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: John as he watched his mother trying on a new
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: fur coat, Little Johnny remarked, Mom, do you realize this
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: coat is the result of the terrible suffering of a poor,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: unfortunate animal. The mother looked sternly at little Johnny and said,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: how can you speak that way about your own father?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: That's good these jokes have a similar tone. I think. Finally,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: John Twson, you'll like this one. Two psychologists walk out
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of a bar. After walking a while, they see a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: man lying on the sidewalk. He's unconscious, badly beaten, bleeding
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: onto the street. It's clear he's been attacked. One of
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the psychologists looks the other alarmed and says, dear God,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we need to find the man that did this. He
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: clearly needs our help. Psychologists taking ahead on that one.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Not a psychologist, and we appreciate our psychologist listeners. Yes
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: out there, We sure you're doing a lot of good.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And John will be at his three pm appointment today. Yes, yes, please, John,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Let's do this week in history to close the show.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: We call it talk about then, John? Did you know?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: This week? Eighteen seventy four, the first US zoo opened
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the Depth the Philadelphia Zoological Society. Open admission was just
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: twenty five cents, and it housed a thousand animals. There
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: were the picture of it, and it literally.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Was a house. It was a house.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: It housed a thousand animals, including buffalo, deer, wolves, fox, foxes, bears, monkeys,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: sixty seven bird species, and fifteen reptiles. I don't know
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: how they kept all this from Maybe there was maybe
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: these the yards.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Only fifteen reptiles in a house of a thousand animals,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, what are the other animals?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: They had to be a ranch because the picture had
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: a picture of like a house, so it must have
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: had like there's property behind the house that where they
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: kept because you can't put buffalo in a house with
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a reptile. I don't know what you did. Buffalo and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: a reptile, sixty seven birds walking around. I mean, it's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: just crazy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: By the way, my birds are back, you know, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be in trouble. Hey now, hey, now, my
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: birds are back. No, we've talked before on the show.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But I have a little ledge under my As you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: walk into my front door, and there's a ledge there,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and birds just they the word is out. The bird
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: is the word, and the word is out, and they
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: know that this is the place to build a net
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: every season, and then if we don't get to it
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: soon enough, they lay eggs. And now I'm not going
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to kill the babies. I'm not moving this nest, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: so we have to wait it out. And I'm telling you,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they come in and they fly, and then the poop, John,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the poop Amazon packages are just getting People are scared
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to come to my front door, so I send them
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to the garage. Anyway, Curry took down the nest today.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: She said it was empty. I climbed the ladder. It
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: was empty. I took it down. I think we're good.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I go. She goes, no eggs, everything's good. I go.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Or she just wants you to think that, oh she's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a little squeamish one.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean my wife at this point is
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: volunteering every day at the Humane Society. She's going to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the dog shelter, like walking dogs in the heat. Let's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: just cover for her bird birds, to get the birds
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: out of there. She's feeding these birds to these dogs
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: as a snack. We're on to you, Curry. It's diabolical,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: it is. It's the perfect crime. John. This week, nineteen
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: sixty two, the future retail giant Walmart opens its first store,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Walmart Discount City in Rogers, Arkansas. It was started by
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Sam Walton, of course, who had previous success with his Bentonville,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Arkansas five and dimes store, and that five and dime store,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I believe is still in Bentonville. Like it's a museum
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: basically the first kind of Walmart like thing Bentonville. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've been to Bentonville, but I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: we talked about it when I did a comedy club
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: in Lowell, which is the nearby town.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: They have redone the whole city, basically in the belt area.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Well, the story that I heard was that the family
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: after Sam Walton died, they inherited so much money that
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it was either pay this billions of dollars in capital
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: gains or you could reinvest it, and they reinvested it
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: in the town. And so Bentonville is now this like
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: go to place. People vacation there because it has like
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the most biking trails of any major American city. It's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: got an art museum that is free to attend. It's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: called the Crystal Rivers Art Museum, I think American reseum.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It has a billion dollars of heart in it. Wow,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: all American art, and uh, it's an incredible place. So
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Bennville's like this course and of course there's a million
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: places where you get Uh there is an airport. Yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: there's an airport like just south of there. But it's
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: not like it's not it's an international but it's you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it's not a direct from here. But anyway, it's like
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: one of those things where there's a million places where
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you can get a twenty dollars Hamburger too, because it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: just what happens in cities like that. So it's very
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: there's no chains, it's very you know, yeah Bob's Biscuit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: House, Eastville.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's very cool place to go now. But
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: all that said, like the the the Waltons made a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: lot of money, and I you know Walmart. Do you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: go to Walmart? Are you a Walmart person or are
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you one of those people that swears off Walmart?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: No, And we do Walmart, but we do mostly Walmart
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: orders to the We let them deliver, spend eight bucks
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and get it all sent eight bucks by not buying
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: other things there the USU you do.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But also like they go, hey, we didn't have avocados,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: so here's a canal over, here's a here's a tennis ball.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: This is not the same.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't believe I have people delivering
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: these things and they can't even do it right. My
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: butler died to get out of my bed and walk
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to the porch. I get it. I got birds pooping
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: on me.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Walmart and not a sponsor. We don't think maybe
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: they were, could be they're rolling back prices. John this week,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, I know what's this?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Continental? This has got some facts that you may not
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: know though, That's why I included it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: The Continental Congress voted to an adopt a resolution of independence.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: The vote was unanimous except for hold on, do you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: know which state they abstained?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: New York?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: New York, New York would vote to accept the resolution
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: on July ninth. This was July second, so it took
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: them a week to be convinced. I guess. Thomas Jefferson
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was selected to compose the original draft, which was to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: be edited by Congress. It was adapted adopted on July fourth.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Of course, pretty certain that there were like thirty two
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: thousand troops in New York Harbor at the time waiting
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to come. So I mean New York had some pressure. Yeah, okay,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: oh wow, but that was had a lot of loyalists.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: New York fell early. I mean you you've watched Hamilton,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you know, but I mean Washington, you know, defending Brooklyn.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You don't think about all these things. But these battles
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: were there, and then New York fell early and remained
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a loyalist stronghold basically for the whole war, the whole war.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And they and they've never recovered. Yeah, they still love
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a bunch of loyalists. Uh uh, Yeah, I was.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I told you.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I was in Yorktown, Virginia. Yeah, and we went down
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: by like the Peer or whatever, and it was just
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: like it's its own little historical there's a million little
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: places to see that were, you know, because that's a
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: crazy part of the war and all that revolutionary war.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like I fought The fourth of July
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: should not be Independence Day? Okay, I'll tell you why.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It's the day we declared independence and then we fought
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a war for like five years.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: The day that we won won the war, what is
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that called Armistice's Armistice Armist's Day's World War two. W
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you can't remember which one.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's called the Treaty of Paris that ended
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the war. And I don't know what you think.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: That should be the day.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I think that should be victory day, the day you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: declare it's great.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it kind of speaks to the thing
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of like that set it in motion.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. Also again and do what we've been doing. Sorry, guys,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: start to change the date. Also. This is just something interesting.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I can't think about the declargement Independence without thinking about
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Lincoln because if you read John Meachen's book on Lincoln,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he talks so much about how so much of what
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Lincoln did, especially with the Emancipation Proclamation, and you know, eventually,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you know, freeing the slaves, which was a military necessity
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: for certain and all those things, but that Meecha really
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: felt like he had a that he evolved in that time. Obviously,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: at the beginning it was not he promised he wasn't
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: going to set the slaves free in the South and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: all the things, but by the end he did. So
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you can debate that. Historians debated it for years, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: what we eacham really talks about is how he was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: seemingly as or more influenced by the words of the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of the Declares of Independence, which is really not law.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It's not the Constitution. It's like a great like mission statement.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's a statement.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They took it to heart of like allmen are creative.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Credit egal and like you can't really enforce that because
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not a litigious thing to go do.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's just a declaration. But that how Lincoln really took
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Jefferson's words to heart and kind of let that be
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: his guiding star.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, well, I think it's a good document.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you say, John this week. Dave
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Thomas was born in nineteen thirty two, passed in two
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: thousand and two. Nice long life. Do you know who?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas was the founder of wendy s Hamburger's. He
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: was an American restaurant tour and he founded Wendy's Hamburger
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: restaurant in nineteen sixty nine, named it after his daughter.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I think I just watched the food that built America,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and I think that he was the first fast food restaurant.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think to open up a dining area inside because
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: originally it was a walk up.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Right, you walk up, that's all The McDonald's were speedy. Yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: they turn around, hand you a thing from a conveyor belt.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Here's your burger, But you'd go sit on a park.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Being Before that, it was like, you know, drive through
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: would not drive Well, maybe it was a drive through
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: he put in. Because drive throughs, McDonald's refused.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: To do drive interesting.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't do it for years.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You think, now they got two lanes, you have e merging.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Everyone thinks McDonald's like, you know, spearheaded that they did
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: not yea, and they thought.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like the two lanes in a drive through.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: To you, I always feel like I have a panic attack,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: thinking like is this guy really gonna let me in?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It's my turn, but he can just take it if
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: he wants.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I always wonder for the guy at the window. Really
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: then those from yeah, how is.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: It not out of order? Somehow? It's a mess anyway.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: The main thing about fast food, if we're really going
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to be old men right now, is it's a million
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: dollars deep fast food. And that used to be like
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: fast food was the option when you did it you wanted,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you didn't want to cook, but you don't have the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: money to eat out, So let's just go to Wendy's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go to McDonald's. Let's get a bag of food
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: for five dollars.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now that ain't happening, bro a Wendy's like combo
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: is eleven bucks.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we ordered Chinese the other night for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the four of us from not like an upscale, just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: like a it was seventy dollars. I don't know, man,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. We're in a lot of trouble. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: can I say this one?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: When I can't get Chinese food for less than can I.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Say, what's a bigger issue than that?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: To me? Though?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Tiny straws, Tiny straws that just collapse.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: About paper?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: No, like again, I have I have a seven bread
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: That's a good size straw. But you know what I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: really love is the big Boba tea. Yeah, like piece
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of pizza sea type. I want a straw that and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: my wife at draws are crazy. I'm just always gonna
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: do it. I take the straw and I hit it
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: on the table, Yeah, and it breaks and then the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: f brig straw.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the straw's fault because straws and McDonald's still.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Has Can I tell you my theory that this is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: going to be a conspiracy theory. I think it's true.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: You heard it here first.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I think restaurants that you sit down and you get
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: free refills they give you smaller straws because they don't
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: want you to be able to Sometimes they don't even
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: offer you a straw because they know you're not going
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to drink as much without a big straw, because you're
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: not able to just gulp it down. They don't want
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to keep giving you free refills. A big a restaurant
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: that you're driving away with a cup, they're like, whatever,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: give this guy.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Whatever, he's gone.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Wow, guys, huh, it's about the refills. Let me tell
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you something. Johnny sees through. He sees through.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Through big Soda. They're not getting myesh, john. Finally, this
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: week nineteen eighty five, a little movie called Back to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the Future premiered, starring Michael J. Fox, Christoph Lloyd, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Lea Thompson. Filmed on a budget of just nineteen million,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and earned three hundred and eighty eight point eight million
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: dollars at the box office. The project was initially rejected
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: by more than forty various studios. Wow, isn't that crazy?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Rejected more than forty times by various I.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Think Michael J. Fox wasn't the original actors. They're pitching
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: him on name records. That's true, Eric Stoles. They actually
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: shot for like six weeks with Eric Stollson shot a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: good portion of the movie with Eric Stolls and then
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we're like, something's not right. Yeah, he was playing the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: character a lot differently. Yeah, less whimsical more. Have you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: seen that?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: If you see the clips of him, you see it,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And honestly, it's crazy too, because if I was him,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I'd be bitter. He went on to have a pretty
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: great career, Like Eric Stills is a really real respected
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: artist and an actor, and he's done a lot of
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like what you would call like smaller films. But yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, Eric Stoles had a good career.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I saw a clip the other day that must be
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: why of behind the scenes of Michael Jackson with so
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Lord Michael J. Fox, behind the scenes different people.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: They are different guys with a guitar player. And I
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: forgot that Huey Lewis was the principal.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: No, he was. He yes, yeah, because they were the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Talent Show. Yeah, and he'd got on the megaphone. You're
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: just too darn loud. Yes, they're playing a Huey Lewis song.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So Huey Lewis is in costume and Michael Michael J.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Fox is practicing his solo and he is wailing, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Huey Lewis is so impressed. He's like, is this okay?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: He was like, you're doing great, It's really great. It
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: was really because you could tell he was trying to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: impress him, because.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: You know he was really playing though.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he played. He played those solos. He played
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Johnny be Good.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I always thought that that he didn't
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: play then, but then he learned to play for a
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: movie he did called Light of Day. I think I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: read that the other day, but maybe I'm wrong.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: No, he was playing.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: He was playing this.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Because he had someone working with him. The guy had
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: his own guitar attacker with him on it, and he was,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I mean killing it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, there's a guy who does videos
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: of movies where actors are playing the guitar as a
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: character and they look at where they are on the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: fret board and play actually what the solos they would
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: be playing, and it's really funny. There's a channel where
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: there's a movie Ralph Macchio did. I cannot remember what
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: it was. I'm albun to butcher it. I can't remember
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the name. But anyway, Ralph Macchio plays this guy who
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: plays in these roadhouses and he's just ripping. But the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: guy's playing what he would actually be playing, and it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: over dubbed and it's just nonsense. It's just gibberish on
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the guitar basically, and it's just so funny. But as
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you watch it, your brain fools you. You go, this
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: guy's ripping.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I watched people do it with piano and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: movies and stuff, and I'm always shocked how no one
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in the room could have walked over. And it's like, guys, okay,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it's eighty eight keys. If it's it's got to be low.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It's up here, it's got to be high. If he's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: playing in the middle and it's high, yeah, I mean,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: surely you can tell he's not playing.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: What about Tom Hanks and Robert Loja and big when
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: they're doing the thing on the big rollout keyboard, do
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you really do you have some continuity issues there. When
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: they do chop sticks, they really did that. You don't
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: think that was dubbed in. I don't that was dubbed
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: in after the fact that there's no way they were
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: really doing it. We need to find out it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: We're finding out you want to find out right now,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna ask Claude, did they really play?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Did they really play? What are you gonna call that thing?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: The big keyboard on the movie Big.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Big keyboard on the movie Big. I will tell you this,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Claude is just Claude is superior in terms of it
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: bothers me?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: How all in on AI you are? I'm only in
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you know it's going to take your job eventually.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: No, maybe, but I'm getting older anyway by the time
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that happens.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: So you want to close the door behind you the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: next guy's problem. Yeah, closed the door right behind you?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Wasn't Claude needs me to write it? Still you still
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: have too, I mean for now, claud a good. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: don't use claud to write. I used Claude to research.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Are you being paid to say? All?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: This?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Be honest?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Short answer? The piano was real and they really performed
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the scene themselves, but the music you hear was cleaned
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: up and postprit That's what I thought. So they did it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: If they had a bad note or two, it got cleaned.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Up, so their exact footsteps aren't literally producing the notes
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: on the scene.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That's what I had a feeling, though.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: The instrument was a genuine working one. It's called the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: walking piano or big piano created by.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You can get one of those. I bought one from
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: my niece one time, didn't you really, Yeah, you can
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: buy They're not that expensive. I mean, she probably didn't
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: have a nice version that they had. Hers was like
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: a little matt It rolled out.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Tom and Robert did the dance themselves rather than handing
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it off the doubles for the playing, and Hanks has
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: proven this repeatedly, including a twenty thirteen performance on The
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Ross Show where he hopped at a giant keyboard
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and knocked out hard and soul and chopsticks from memory
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: decades later, what.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: In the world, well, then, never mind, maybe he didn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: know it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: He did do it. It's just that probably yeah, yeah, well,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and they probably did to clean up they hit a
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: bad note.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: You're like, all right, it's take five. We're just gonna finish.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: But those things lit up.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it I still think I think I think they
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: fixed it in posts. I don't think it lit up,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: did it. I think you're thinking of more. I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you're thinking of the Uh.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it did Billy Jean video or Cubert the Catches.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: The audio if you watch closely, the notes on the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: soundtrack don't line up perfectly with which keys his feet
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: are actually hitting. The music was polished and added in
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: post production, which is clearly standing for a musical set
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: piece like this, so it's not raw footage of two
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: guys feet producing a clean rendition of heart and soul
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in one life tape formed the choreography for real on
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a real instrument. The pristine tune you Hear was finished
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the ending Room.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I need to watch Big again. Uh. It's one of
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: those movies where in the back of the future. The
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: reason it made the list is because it's a movie
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: that I still feel like. All three of those really
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: still hold the hold, and I feel like even Sadie
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: would enjoy them.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I tried with her.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: She didn't think. She didn't like Young. Okay, you gonna
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: try again.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: We'll try again, try Big I have a list of
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: movies I wanted to watch for she graduated.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: They could get a little creepy though, because Elizabeth Perkins
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: falls in love with this basically fourteen year old boy.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It's kind of it's.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Not it's weird at the end when he turns back
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: into a boy and then.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: She's just like in her car like oh, and it's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: like she didn't sit being like oh and running home
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and showering right and just being like, get this, this
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: is gross? Am I a gross person?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: That it's a little it doesn't think like Luke and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Leah kissing, and no one ever talks about it, you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, well, you know why that happened is
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: because in the beginning, he didn't write Darth Vader as
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: his father, and then Lucas Lucas Luke wasn't originally Leya
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: is gonna be Lay's twin. That was all like they
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: were writing it on the fly. So they wrote them
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: as love interests because they were gonna be love interests.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: When did we learn about it?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Empire strikes Back?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: So second movie, Yeah, the first movie, he didn't know
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they were He.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Did not know he was not the plan originally was
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: not to make Darth Vader Luke's father.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Or Layah his sister. No, okay, so that's the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that's the whole point. Yeah. Like so, wow, that's a
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: lot that happened in the second movie.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at the original poster, that's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the poster is like them embracing like love interests. Yeah,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: like it's not like, well, here's a brother and sister yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: side hugging.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: No, it's a So then he had to reconcile his mind, like, listen,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, some Star Wars people are going to
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: get onto me. But I swear to you, I think
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I've seen and read this that are you gonna look
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: this up to chime? We're running out of time here, Leiah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: How do you spell Layah l E I A E
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I E I?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Oh? Were they originally love interests?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Originally intended to be.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Brother and sister's time?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: That's good wording for Clawdne and Claude is our producer now, yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: thinking Claude, it takes ay just pipe it into chat.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Let him raised.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet. I'm gonna bet you're right, because that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: makes sense now, Yeah, there.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Was a lot of stuff that they were like, oh,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: because it's some of it they had to fix continuity errors. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: because like Jaba, the Hutt was an originally a blob.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: He was a dude in a fur coat.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you watch the old the original which they
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: edited him out and they put Jaba in.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: You're correct. Not when the first films were made. The
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: sibling relationship was a later decision, and the evidence for
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that is baggd writing in the movies. If Lucas had
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: planned from the start the romantic tension between them, the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: love triangle set up with Han and especially Leah's good
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: luck or for luck kiss Empire strikes back, Oh, would
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: be bizarre to leave in. Lucas himself never really pretended
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: otherwise in this point, But there's a genuinely interesting wrinkle
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that makes the answer more than a flat no. The
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: concept of Loup having a secret sister did exist early.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: That's what Yoda's cryptic know. There is another line an
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Empire's pointing to the catch is that this sister was
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: originally conceived as a completely different character, not Leah. So
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: first draft script for Empire, Luke had a long lost
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: sister named Nelleth and Luke was to learn about her
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: from the forced ghost of his father, who in the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: draft was not Darth Vader at all. They described the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: plan the sister was someone on the far side of
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the galaxy. He wasn't going to appear until a later episode.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: So I'll just keep listening. I think if the lesson
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: of the show today is sometimes your first draft, you
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: just gotta keep rolling.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're gonna make a classic. We don't know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you never know, you never know. And if even if
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it involves someone kissing their sister, and even if.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: It turns out that the worst person in the universe
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: is your father, yeah, there's still hope, right all, maybe
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: he'll change his mind at the end.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It turned down because he did, even though in later
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: movies though he was redeemed, his grandson went on to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: commit the same atrocities and then eventually he was redeemed.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: But could we just skip the atrocity part?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's guys, if we could say anything today, it's
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: please skip the atrocities.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I think that that that's sort of our mantra in
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a nuts that's a T shirt right there, guys, Could
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: we just skip the atrocities. I do you actually think
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: about stuff like that, like all his when God, so
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: when the Israelites are so unruly in the desert that
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: they have to wonder for forty years, which on a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: journey that I think would have taken ten days. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they just they just can't and always go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but God, we could just skip the four hundred years
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  Speaker 1: in Egypt whenever they lost their whole identity and religion.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been you know. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's I guess I see through some things too, Johnny.
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  Speaker 1: We could have skipped that atrocity, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I got anybody doubting there. I still
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: it's fine. God's ways are not our ways, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I just it's just things to understand.
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  Speaker 2: Some of us are in our own desert. Maybe it's yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and we wish we could skip it, But john something's
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: there to be learned.
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  Speaker 1: It's a digital desert.
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  Speaker 2: Come out to the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget about August the eighth, August twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 2: I think if you spell my name wrong, it still
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  Speaker 2: sends you like there's so many misspelled versions that still
• 45:35
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• 45:38
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  Speaker 1: You want to just buy it so it redirects You're right?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Now a listener is going to go buy it and
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  Speaker 1: then hold.
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  Speaker 2: It and sit on it way to go. Thanks John
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  Speaker 2: that good grief.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it was a lot of fun today. It
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: was great to be back with Johnny two. It was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: fun to see you buddy. And the happy late birthday again.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks well, I told you on your birthday. You did
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: happy birthday today from last week. You don't seem a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: day over.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'm so old. It's okay, I already
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Said, guys, let's do it again next week, Carol, to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that