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- Lucas: So it's late May 2026, and we're now deep into what I'd call the great office-standoff phase of the return to work story. Luna: The standoff — I like that. Between employers who want people back and employees who'd rather not. Lucas: Exactly. And what's interesting is that the data is finally catching up to the anecdotes. We got a report this month from the recruiting platform Hired — they track actual offer acceptance and time to fill metrics — and it shows a clear split by seniority level. Luna: Let me guess — the more experience you have, the more leverage you have to say no to five days in the office? Lucas: Bingo. For job postings that require five days in-office, the average time to fill is now about 40 percent longer than for fully remote roles. And this is for roles where the salary is actually 15 percent higher on average for the in-office listing. So companies are literally paying a premium for the privilege of having people commute, and it's still taking them longer to hire. Luna: That is a brutal stat for any CFO looking at real estate costs plus recruiting costs plus higher comp. You're paying more to wait longer. Lucas: Right. And the data breaks down by level. For senior engineers — say, ten-plus years of experience — the rejection rate for in-office-only roles is nearly double what it is for early-career engineers under three years. The juniors are more willing to comply because they want mentorship, they want face time with senior folks, they want the social proof of showing up. Luna: Which creates this weird dynamic where the very people who are supposed to provide that mentorship are the ones least likely to be in the office. Lucas: That's the irony. A junior engineer goes in hoping to learn from a senior, but the senior has the leverage to stay home. So you end up with an office full of relatively junior people and maybe a few middle managers. Luna: We've heard this anecdotally from friends at some of the big tech firms in Seattle and the Bay Area. The offices are not empty, but they feel different — quieter, less of that buzz you used to get. Lucas: And that's partly because some companies have gotten more aggressive. Amazon now requires most corporate employees to be in the office at least three days a week, and there are reports of managers tracking badge swipes. Goldman Sachs went even further — five days a week for most junior bankers, though senior folks get more flexibility. Luna: But Goldman's a special case. Banking has always been more in-person. The tech industry was supposed to be the flexible one. Lucas: And that's exactly where the tension is. In tech, the norm from 2020 to 2023 was fully remote or hybrid-light. Now companies like Google, Meta, and Amazon are tightening. But the talent market, while softer than 2021, is still competitive enough that senior people have options. And they're voting with their feet. Luna: One thing I found interesting in the Hired data — they also looked at what happens after a company announces a stricter RTO policy. In the six months following the announcement, voluntary turnover among senior staff jumps by about 12 percent compared to companies that stay remote-friendly. Lucas: That's consistent with what we've seen at firms like Apple and Tesla. When Elon Musk told Tesla staff they had to be in the office forty hours a week or leave, a bunch of people did leave. But the question is — did it hurt the company? Tesla is still making cars and growing. Luna: It might not hurt in the short term if the company has enough brand power and a deep applicant pool. But for smaller firms, losing a few senior engineers can delay product launches or kill a whole initiative. Lucas: So the size of the company matters. Large-cap tech with strong brand equity can probably enforce RTO without catastrophic talent loss. Mid-cap or growth-stage companies cannot. And the startups are using this as their competitive angle. Luna: I've seen that — 'hybrid poaching' is the term some recruiters use. A startup that is fully remote will specifically target senior engineers at rto mandate companies by saying: you can work from anywhere, we'll match your comp, and you never have to commute again. Lucas: It's a real phenomenon. And it's not just startups. Some bigger firms are also leaning into flexibility as a differentiator. Salesforce, for example, has been pretty vocal about 'flex' culture — they don't mandate specific days, they let teams decide. Luna: But that creates its own challenges. When some teams are in the office three days and others are fully remote, you get coordination problems, and maybe inequity in who gets promoted. Lucas: Absolutely. And there's emerging research that shows a proximity bias — managers tend to favor people they see in person, even if they don't realize it. So the people who show up more often get better assignments, more mentorship, faster promotions. That's a structural issue that remote-only and hybrid companies haven't solved yet. Luna: So the standoff has layers. On one side, you have the employee leverage story — senior people can dictate terms. On the other, you have the company leverage story — firms can mandate because the labor market isn't as hot as 2021. But it's not one-size-fits-all. Lucas: And the numbers Hired released show that the pendulum might have swung a bit back toward employers in the last six months, but not uniformly. For specialized roles like AI/ML engineers, the leverage is still very much with the candidate. For more general software engineering roles, it's more balanced. Luna: That makes sense — if you're building the next big language model, you can write your own ticket. If you're maintaining a CRUD app, maybe not. Lucas: Right. One more stat that stood out: among companies that have enforced a three-day in-office policy, the average employee satisfaction score on Glassdoor drops by about 0.3 stars within three months. That's not huge, but it's statistically significant. And it's especially pronounced among women and caregivers. Luna: Because they bear the brunt of commuting and scheduling complexity. That's a diversity and inclusion angle that a lot of RTO policies seem to overlook. Lucas: Exactly. And that's not just a feel-good concern — if your best female engineers or your best working-parent engineers leave, you lose institutional knowledge and diversity of thought. So the cost of RTO isn't just recruiting cost, it's also retention cost and innovation cost. Luna: So where does this leave us in May 2026? Do you think we'll see a wave of companies reverting to more flexible policies, or is the trend toward tighter mandates? Lucas: I think we're in a period of experimentation. Some companies will double down on in-office because they believe it's essential for culture and innovation. Others will loosen up because the data shows it's hurting their talent acquisition. The smart ones will use data — like the Hired report — to make decisions rather than just ideology. Luna: If today's tech conversation gave you something usable — a stat you might bring up in a meeting or a framework for thinking about your own team — I think a lot of listeners would love to be able to help us keep doing this kind of work. We keep the show ad-free and listener-supported, and a small group of people already chips in monthly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's not a big ask — just mentioning that that's how this keeps going. Lucas: Yeah, and we really mean that. It's what lets us dig into reports like the Hired data without worrying about ad-reads or sponsors. So if that resonates, great. And if not, no worries at all — we're glad you're here either way. Luna: Exactly. So back to the trends — there's another angle I want to explore. What about the real estate side? If companies are calling people back, are they also expanding their office footprint? Lucas: That's the fascinating paradox. Overall, corporate real estate demand is down. Sublease space is at an all-time high in cities like San Francisco and New York. But some companies are actually signing new leases — they're just in smaller, higher-quality spaces. They want fewer square feet but nicer amenities: better air filtration, more collaboration zones, fewer rows of identical desks. Luna: Flight to quality. So the office is becoming more of a destination than a default. Lucas: Yes. And that has implications for how companies design their space and how they measure productivity. If you're only coming in two or three days a week, the office needs to justify the commute. That means better meeting rooms, better food, better technology. Luna: We've seen some companies install studio-quality video conferencing in every room so that remote participants don't feel like second-class citizens. Lucas: That's exactly the kind of investment that makes hybrid work actually work. But it's expensive. And it raises the bar for companies that are just saying 'come back because I said so' without providing the infrastructure to make it productive. Luna: So pick one prediction for the next twelve months — what's the one thing you're watching most closely? Lucas: I'm watching whether the senior-exodus pattern accelerates. If enough senior people leave rto heavy firms, the companies will either have to back down or accept that their workforce becomes more junior. And that has long-term consequences for innovation and mentorship. I think by this time next year, we'll have a much clearer picture of whether RTO is a durable trend or a cyclical correction. Luna: And in the meantime, the data keeps coming. We'll keep tracking it. Lucas: Absolutely. That's it for this episode of Future of Work Tech with Fexingo. We'll be back next week with another angle.