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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at how to
- 0:03get the best out of your social media advertising.
- 0:07And that is because somebody just hit me up recently with
- 0:10some advertising campaign and I realised that this person is
- 0:15just wasting their orgasm money because really, there was no
- 0:19need for me to see that advertisement now.
- 0:23Yeah, I'm regarding today's episode out and about.
- 0:25It's a Sunday. Kids are having caveatism
- 0:27classes and then there's some construction going on, you know,
- 0:31close by. So expect to hear some drilling
- 0:33and all that. Now, this podcast is not to tell
- 0:35you about my private life, but I'm here to solve business
- 0:39problems. And today we're going to be
- 0:41talking about advertising. And so if you have been
- 0:43wondering, you know, you have a marketing team, you have a
- 0:46marketing crew. Are they wasting your money?
- 0:49Is this advertisement effective? Are you going to get customers
- 0:52from this kind of thing? How do I grow the business?
- 0:54If these are the kinds of challenges that you wake up and
- 0:57every day these things are on your mind, as in money on my
- 1:00mind every day, then this podcast is your jam.
- 1:04So subscribe Spotify, YouTube, Apple or any player of your
- 1:08choice. And if you'd love to connect
- 1:11with me, I'm the host. My name is Tavishma IED.
- 1:13You can call send me a text message or WhatsApp message on
- 1:1608064662140. So like I said now advertising.
- 1:23How do you get the best out of your advertising?
- 1:25Now to be honest, this is also a semi rant because this in a
- 1:30troop me well, well as in like it really pains me because of
- 1:36course when people bring me into a business, you know, to
- 1:39troubleshoot for them or to consult for them or to train for
- 1:41them. We're trying to get the money
- 1:44up. So it's not unusual.
- 1:47Now by the time they hire me, they already had somebody to be
- 1:50doing marketing as well. And marketing boys, let me be
- 1:56honest with you anyway, let me not be disrespectful.
- 2:01Let me just say marketing boys in Niger, you guys still leave a
- 2:04lot to be desired. You guys when it comes to
- 2:07creative collateral, you know, the, the design, the color, the
- 2:12font, the everything. The campaign is sweet, but the
- 2:17execution leaves a lot to be desired.
- 2:20I mean, even now that people are using artificial AI tools to
- 2:26create video, you know, video advertising and stuff like that.
- 2:30I mean, they create such wonderful things, but then the
- 2:34execution of the campaign leaves a lot to be desired anyway, so
- 2:38let's just get straight into it. So basically, OK, let's just go
- 2:42straight to the chase. If you're advertising online,
- 2:45whether advertising offline or online, targeting is the main
- 2:49thing. I repeat, targeting is the main
- 2:52thing. Let me say one more time,
- 2:55targeting is the main thing for you to maximise.
- 3:03You're spend the money that you're spending to maximize the
- 3:06results that you get. Targeting has to be on point.
- 3:10For those of you who've been listening for a while, you
- 3:12remember the guy been in the one who runs a, a gadget shop, you
- 3:17know, computers, mobile phones, you know, stuff like that.
- 3:21When he came down to billboards, we had to sit down and have that
- 3:24conversation, OK? This is our target audience,
- 3:26blah, blah, blah, stuff like that.
- 3:28What people that paid you the most?
- 3:30OK, these are G Wagon boys and no problem, a couple of them on
- 3:33campus. It only made sense that OK, at
- 3:36this intersection that is close to the university, the one that
- 3:40is away from all those other billboards, let us put one there
- 3:44so that student community will see.
- 3:46Now, there's no guarantee that, excuse me, that because we have
- 3:51put it there, we're going to get some business from it.
- 3:53But The thing is, you know, advertising is part art and it's
- 3:58part science. So this is part of the artistry
- 4:02that is involved. This is where we think our
- 4:04target audiences, this is where we think they'll be driving
- 4:06back. So let's put 1 billboard there.
- 4:10Now take that same mentality. So excuse me now take that same
- 4:15mentality and apply that thing online.
- 4:20Where do you think the target audience is going to be?
- 4:22Where do you think the eyeballs are going to be?
- 4:24You know, took that advertisement there so that the
- 4:26eyeballs can see. Because if the people who are
- 4:30supposed to see it are not seeing it, and then the people
- 4:32who are not supposed to see it are seeing it truly, truly, I
- 4:36say on to thee, thou art wasting your money.
- 4:40OK, Well, in this case, your gas money.
- 4:42And I think that's the thing that pays me the most about all
- 4:43these marketing boys. You go into a company, you do
- 4:47your, you know, all of you talk real fancy because you'll have a
- 4:52master's degrees and everything and then you collect people's
- 4:56money, big, big money. Like one guy I'm working with
- 4:57right now, 500,000, that's what they collected just to run the
- 5:02campaign. We now start seeing some of the
- 5:04results. By the time I pick up the phone
- 5:06and call some of those leads, I'm like, hi, this is rubbish,
- 5:09absolute rubbish. That's why 500K don't go like
- 5:12that. Anyway.
- 5:15So basically the thing that causes run today was I was just
- 5:19chilling on LinkedIn. Mind my business, you know,
- 5:22checking my, you know, my engagement because you know, I
- 5:26put up posts, you know, people interact, people leave comments,
- 5:28you know, things like that. So just do my thing.
- 5:31Next thing now in my inbox, I receive one of those sponsored
- 5:37advertisements, you know, stuff like that from inter switch.
- 5:41Now I'm not going to read the whole thing because you know,
- 5:44those of you who listen for a while, you already know Now when
- 5:47I do my takedowns message was too long.
- 5:51You had to scroll on my own phone.
- 5:52I'd scroll like 5 or 6 times to finish the whole thing.
- 5:55But shot, because I'm a student of the game, I said let me just
- 5:59see what's out there. Let me see what techniques
- 6:01people are using, you know, things like that.
- 6:02So I went ahead and looked at the whole thing.
- 6:05We're very, very, I say on to the marketing people, all these
- 6:09long copy that people are using your advertisement.
- 6:11What do you think is reading this thing because you think
- 6:15people don't have what they're doing with that time.
- 6:16They will sit down and be scrolling and scrolling and
- 6:18scrolling. Wasted money.
- 6:21Those guys just wasted inter switches money.
- 6:24And then he's paying me because inter switch.
- 6:26That's a good client. Those are the people that will
- 6:28be paying correct money. You know, don't be charged
- 6:33pricing you, you know, for 400-5555 hundred, you're
- 6:36collecting millions. So The thing is painting me,
- 6:39that's money that should have went out my pocket if I need
- 6:42some connections into these kinds of organizations.
- 6:45So he was long as hell, very long and all thrust of the
- 6:50advert was we're talking about how you can digitize your oil
- 6:53and gas business for growth. I repeat, some of you, you'll be
- 6:57wondering, did I hear him correctly?
- 6:59Yes, you heard me correctly. The advert was digitize your oil
- 7:03and gas business for growth. Now those of you who have been
- 7:06listening to this podcast, even if you've only listened for two
- 7:09episodes, do I sound like somebody who is in the oil and
- 7:11gas business? Do I, should I be seeing that
- 7:17kind of advertisement? Should I?
- 7:20If I'm seeing that advertisement, obviously the
- 7:22other people who are not in the oil and gas business, who that
- 7:26advert is being shown to as well.
- 7:28The marketer will now tell Inter Switch that we did a brilliant
- 7:31campaign. They will say that that ad was
- 7:33seen by over 800 million Nigerians.
- 7:38Then they'll clap for them. They'll say good, that the thing
- 7:41the campaign had good reach which can reach when people who
- 7:47should not be seeing it are seeing it.
- 7:51If I do not own an oil and gas business and this thing is
- 7:55talking about inter switch solutions for people in the oil
- 7:57and gas space, does it sound like I am going to take action
- 8:00on something that I do not need and I am not interested in now?
- 8:05This is the problem. Marketing people listen very
- 8:10well. This is the problem.
- 8:12I studied oil and gas, yes, that was my second degree, oil and
- 8:19gas law. So because of that, on my
- 8:21profile, I'm sure oil and gas is written there because my
- 8:25university will be there and my degree will be there and my
- 8:28graduation will be there. So the problem is the people who
- 8:32came up with this advertising campaign, what they did was when
- 8:35they were putting the targeting criteria, they just said anybody
- 8:38that has done anything in oil and gas before this person
- 8:41should see the advert. No marketing boys and girls.
- 8:47Listen, what is the most important thing?
- 8:50Is it that anybody who has anything to do with oil and gas
- 8:53should see this advert or should it be anybody who has a career
- 8:58or a business in oil and gas should see this advert?
- 9:04I repeat, marketing boys and girls in the targeting that
- 9:08people are doing for these kinds of campaigns, you're working on
- 9:14this kind of thing, is it OK? The person has something related
- 9:18to do with oil and gas, no matter how small, therefore, the
- 9:21person should see this advert or should it be somebody who has
- 9:24had a career or a business in oil and gas?
- 9:28Now, the problem I have with marketing boys and girls,
- 9:33especially in Nigeria is they worry too much about reach.
- 9:38Marketing people in Nigeria have a reach mentality.
- 9:41They want plenty of people to see the adverts, plenty and
- 9:44plenty and plenty. And then they have these their
- 9:47funny metrics. The more people see it, the more
- 9:50the impressions. Then they can say that oh the
- 9:52cost of the impression was cheap and they will tell your guy that
- 9:56they ran an efficient campaign because 800 million people saw
- 10:00it at the cost of so so and so per impression.
- 10:03The cost is low. Therefore it was a sweet
- 10:04campaign. Sweet campaign.
- 10:06How marketing, boys and girls. This is not about reach.
- 10:11It is not about how low the cost of the impression was.
- 10:14It is about whether the right audience sees it.
- 10:18Even if the impression costs higher, even if it costs more,
- 10:22because if the right audience sees it, then we might get some
- 10:26money. At the end of the day, Inter
- 10:28Switch is not paying for impressions.
- 10:31What they're paying for is they're hoping that somebody
- 10:33would take on this thing and buy their solutions for the oil and
- 10:37gas industry. Marketing boys and girls, your
- 10:41clients are not paying for impressions.
- 10:45They are paying for business results.
- 10:47They are paying for sales. So please stop this reach
- 10:54mentality or so, so, so impressions and the impression
- 10:58was cheap. Who cares if the impression was
- 10:59cheap when by the time you pick up the phone, you can't do
- 11:02anything with these contacts. This one of my clients like
- 11:05that. OK, I really told you guys now
- 11:07500K, 500K, by the time you start calling, it's supposed to
- 11:12be targeting Nigerians in diaspora.
- 11:14By the time you start calling the people, sorry, Nigerians in
- 11:17diaspora who want to buy land and want to buy land or rent
- 11:21property in Lagos, by the time you start calling the people,
- 11:23people in Kano, people in Maiduguri, people in will carry
- 11:27people in like and then all of them based in Nigeria.
- 11:32Like, is that the point? Cheap impressions, OK was seen
- 11:35by 1,000,000 people and so a million people that we cannot
- 11:38get a single customer from. And so when you are advertising,
- 11:45it is all about targeting, targeting you marketing people.
- 11:53Stop being so afraid. You want the targeting to be as
- 11:56broad as possible because you want reach.
- 11:57It is not about reach, it's about the quality, smarter
- 12:04quality. What is the whole point?
- 12:07If a million people see it and then you know you don't get a
- 12:09single naira of business out of this thing.
- 12:15But then if half 100,000 people see it and then, I don't know,
- 12:20maybe you get 10 millionaires worth of business.
- 12:23I mean, which one is better? Marketing people, please, I beg
- 12:29targeting, targeting, targeting. Narrow, narrow, narrow.
- 12:33The more focused the better. That's the reason why people
- 12:35call this thing ideal customer profile or target audience or
- 12:41something. Target audience, you know, it
- 12:43means it's, it's like archery. We're trying to shoot gun, we're
- 12:47trying to shoot an arrow. We're trying to hit the zero in
- 12:49the board. We're not trying to scatter
- 12:51bullets everywhere. Nigerian marketing boys and
- 12:58girls, people like giving us a bad name.
- 13:02That's the reason why those of us who are in the marketing, who
- 13:05are in the revenue communications business, that's
- 13:07the reason why people are skeptical of doing business with
- 13:09us because they have dealt with too many of you and you will
- 13:12have have given them a nasty experience.
- 13:15Someone who dropped 500K and won't see results then do now
- 13:19think that all of us are charlatans.
- 13:21But of course, you marketing people was your own.
- 13:23You've already collected your money and you've gone.
- 13:27You now leave some of us to come and clean up this mess.
- 13:33So for this kind of campaign now, it should not have been
- 13:37anybody that has anything to do with oil and gas.
- 13:39It should have been maybe people that have a career in oil and
- 13:42gas. People have a business in oil
- 13:44and gas. Not only that, it is Interstate
- 13:47we're talking about it's a fintech company, you know, very
- 13:50complicated solutions. So people like me who are one
- 13:52man show we should not be seeing this advert.
- 13:54They also should have put there a certain revenue size for the
- 13:58business. They also should have put there
- 14:00a certain size of the business, you know like employee count
- 14:03because one man show does not engage inter switch.
- 14:11These are the kinds of things that should have gone into that
- 14:13campaign. This is the level of
- 14:15granularity, the level of targeting that should have gone
- 14:17into that campaign. Then apart from the targeting
- 14:24and apart from the length of the copy, there was also an issue
- 14:27with the call to action. Now the call to action just
- 14:33means the the thing that you want people to do at the end of
- 14:36reading your message, at the end of digesting your advertising
- 14:38campaign, what do you want them to do next?
- 14:41It is part of a good marketing campaign, advertising campaign,
- 14:44direct response copy campaign, whatever campaign you're doing
- 14:48sha anything that is sales related.
- 14:52It's a good idea that the end of it you put a call to action.
- 14:54What do you want the people to do next?
- 14:58Excuse me, because that is how you move people along the buying
- 15:01process eventually until they make a deposit and then they
- 15:04become your customer. So there should always be a call
- 15:06to action. Now the call to action that they
- 15:08put there at the end of nothing was book a demo Now, please
- 15:13marketing brothers and sisters, is that realistic?
- 15:17You people are selling a product.
- 15:19This is inter switch. This is for big boys and big
- 15:21girls, you know, people where they earn 1,000,000 millions,
- 15:24not naira millions dollars as in big, big, big, big money.
- 15:28This is a very expensive solution.
- 15:30You really think somebody will see your advert one time and
- 15:32just click and then go for a demo?
- 15:34How? It's not realistic.
- 15:37This is a complex sale scenario. Book a demo that's like you're
- 15:45running into a babe on the first day and then you tell her you're
- 15:47going to be my wife, you know? Yeah, in in Hollywood, it works.
- 15:51It's romantic. But in real life, the first time
- 15:53you see a girl, you tell her you're going to be my wife.
- 15:56You don't think she'll run away. You take it easy.
- 16:00How about the realistic when you say the call to action should be
- 16:04the, how do I put it? The smallest or most reasonable
- 16:07next step, the easiest next step that somebody should take.
- 16:11So in this case, how about click here to learn more.
- 16:14That's an easier call to action. How many people do you think
- 16:18will see this thing as a book a demo and then they will click on
- 16:20book a demo. How about click here to learn
- 16:22more? How about if you would like to
- 16:25see how Inter Switch can help you, you'd like to see how inter
- 16:30Switch can help you, you know, improve this, improve this,
- 16:32improve that, click here and easier and call to action.
- 16:41It's a complex sale scenario. Nobody's going to make a
- 16:43decision on the spot. Very few people are just going
- 16:45to click through and then go and see a demo.
- 16:52So anyway, sorry I got carried away.
- 16:56Instead of making this an objective, dispassionate podcast
- 16:58episode, I ended up turning this thing into a rant.
- 17:00But basically I think we I passed across what I was trying
- 17:04to pass across. So marketing boys and girls,
- 17:06please, this thing is not about reach and it's not about
- 17:08impressions. It's not about 1,000,000
- 17:10impressions if we don't get customers from it.
- 17:13When people give US money, they are Rex, they are expecting
- 17:18results, they're expecting clients at the end of the day.
- 17:21So marketing people, please understand that and then don't
- 17:23make my own job difficult. Those of us who have to call up
- 17:26the customers don't make my own job difficult.
- 17:29Please make the targeting as narrow as possible so that by
- 17:33the time people like me pick up the phone and call, the
- 17:37conversation will be sweet. Now, of course, we know that
- 17:41it's not going to be everybody that sees the advert.
- 17:45That is, you know, nothing can be perfect.
- 17:48Nothing can be perfect. But let's go back to this 500K
- 17:54people. Now they're on the
- 17:56advertisement. They got a couple of contacts.
- 17:58I looked at the sample size. It was not much.
- 18:00I say, you know what, before I hand it over to the guys in
- 18:03house team, let me sample this thing myself.
- 18:06Let me just taste it. Let me see the quality of these
- 18:08leads. Let me call these people.
- 18:10Then we'll now come up with a game plan.
- 18:13I called them out of the sample size, 0 percent, 0%, not even 10
- 18:21percent. Nobody was the ideal target
- 18:23audience. Nobody.
- 18:25Every single person I called based in Nigeria.
- 18:29Every single person I called based in Nigeria.
- 18:31Meanwhile, we are targeting people who are supposed to be
- 18:34diaspora, people who live in Canada, people who live in
- 18:37America, people who live in where?
- 18:39Again, I can't remember then of the sample size, I think only
- 18:47like 20% remotely remembered clicking on the ad or were
- 18:53interested in real estate, about 20%.
- 18:57The remaining 80% nothing. And then for some of the people
- 19:04who are some language barriers there, you can understand what I
- 19:07mean. I don't want to, you know, I
- 19:09don't the sound tribalistic. So let me just leave it like
- 19:11that. Let's just say it was language
- 19:13barrier. Let me just leave it.
- 19:19So I told your guy, gave your guy my report.
- 19:22Look, this is how we need to change the advertisement.
- 19:25We need to tighten this up. We need to tighten this up.
- 19:27And I told them that look, I will use money to pre qualify,
- 19:30put it there in the advertisement that the cost of
- 19:31your solution is between this and this and put the amount in
- 19:34dollar so that some people will see it and be afraid and won't
- 19:37click on it. Those are some of my
- 19:40recommendations, Borgia, to get the best out of your marketing
- 19:46spend, make sure it is targeted. The more narrow you can make it,
- 19:51the better. Then stop worrying about reach
- 19:56it. Reach is not the main thing.
- 19:59If we're not reaching out to the right people, then the fact
- 20:01that, you know, 1 billion people saw it like OK and so.
- 20:08Then our call to action should be realistic.
- 20:13Book a demo, man. That's too much.
- 20:19Make it a small step that seems reasonable that somebody could,
- 20:22that somebody can take without fear.
- 20:28Anyway, so that's it. Yeah, that's it.
- 20:32Any forgive me for a rant, but it's one of those things that
- 20:35just really, really, really pay me because this year alone, I
- 20:40think this year alone is like maybe four or five.
- 20:43Yeah, let me say 5, five of these air hops that I have faced
- 20:50personally. And anyway, please, marketers,
- 20:55you should get your house in gear.
- 20:56You are giving us a bad name. People are giving us a very,
- 20:59very bad name. I beg you people, organize
- 21:02yourselves, maybe we'll go for town hall meeting, marketing
- 21:06association, you know of Lagos, you know, whatever, you probably
- 21:10go for association meeting. We should talk to yourselves, a
- 21:12big talk to yourselves. Anyway, let me stop there.
- 21:18So that's it and that's all for today.
- 21:20If you'd love to connect, call, send me a text message or a
- 21:24WhatsApp message on 08064662140. Thanks for your time and
- 21:30attention. I'll catch you at the next
- 21:31episode. And you know what, let me
- 21:33apologize. I'm not trying to make marketers
- 21:36sound as if they're all a holes and you know they don't, they
- 21:39don't know their work. But anyway, see you guys next
- 21:46episode.