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• M11 Cover Crops: Hey everyone, welcome to the Two Tools No Clue podcast. I'm Anna. And I'm Jayden. And on today's mini-sewed... but great! We're gonna talk about crop circles. Who is really behind it all? Farmers or aliens? I'm so excited. I had no idea what we were gonna do this week. So this is great. So yeah, obviously we have no clue. But we're about to find out together, so... Fasten your tool belt So on my last episode, cover crops 101, we covered all the benefits that they provide. But on today's episode, I'm going to be sharing some circle history and stories. Yay. So Anna, when you think of crop circles, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? We've said it before on the podcast, but I think if you running out of the cornfield. I did not do it. Aliens were in that cornfield. They probably were. We should have checked it. Yeah, but I think of aerial view pictures of like crazy designs and cornfields. So what I think of is that album cover from Led Zeppelin. Just a crop circle field because it was such a big thing. Yeah, that's not the first thing that came to mind. Yeah, I also just think of. the first fellas I'm going to talk about because I am from Scotland and so a lot of the scots have crop circles. England had a lot. England was like England was notorious for crop circles. And I tell you why. Well, I don't know if I knew that it's still up in the air. But anyway, so the most popular crop circles were in England in the 1970s. These crop circles are the reason that most people do not believe in crop circles. interesting. Why? Well, sorry, I should say that over. They are these crop circles are the reason that most people do not believe that they are created by UFOs. Why? Yeah. Well, we can thank two Englishmen for that. Lord. Go figure. So. These two English men are named Doug Bower and Dave Torley. They claim they were responsible for 200 crop circles from 1978 to 1991. And you know, okay, there's actually like also kind of like he said, she said with this too, some people will say that they and their families will say that they did every single crop circle in England. That is absolute bullshit. One, for some of the crop circles in our history, they were not alive. They were not even a mere thought. And they were the aliens. And then they came down to Earth as humans. okay, maybe. They started doing it. The plot thickens. I can't even think about that. So when they were questioned how they accomplished the work, They explained that they used rope with anchored points and planks of wood attached to rope to stomp like stomp it down. And so it did look very linear and methodical. and why did they do this? They just were bored. Yeah. They were bored. Were these their cornfields? No, they were never their cornfields, which is like a whole other I guess. And they were able to do this all overnight. Yeah, that's what they would always claim. And that's where it gets tricky. And where scientists both believe. I would more say the entertainment factor, like the news and the journalists would flock to them once they had said that. And they were like, see, that's what it is. Right. UFOs. They said they did it. So they must have they showed us how they do it. So they must have some of these designs. There is no way and how that two men could have completed that in one night. It would have taken like days. if I was a farmer waking up to a half exactly did crop circle, I'd be like, who the fuck bang bang. Yeah, literally. So yeah, there's just a lot that goes back and forth. They're huge. That's a lot of corn that is just getting knocked down. When they started though, they were somewhat simple, and then they became elaborate. Okay. did they have accomplices? I don't know. Like they, I think they did some of them, like the lame ones because the scientists went around and like studied all the fields, right? I'll get into that later. Cause they were like, Fuck you. absolutely not. You did not make all these crop circles. But yeah, so that they they convinced a lot of people by just like going out and being like, this is how we did it. And there are artists out there who do crop circle art, right? And that is kind of the method they use. They anchor a rope so that it's circular. Like, it's just for I don't know how they do landscaping in general, like landscape art or whatever. Like that's how they end up doing it. If you're doing it by hand, like ropes and Despite the mass media entertaining their claims, there are still thousands more that need to be explained. So what do you about that? and Dave, Doug and Dave. didn't catch their names the first time. That's hilarious. In 1991, biophysicist William C. Levengood felt the same as I do. He studied the stocks of several crops from flattened anomalies that they had claimed to do, and then just like a bunch of them all in England. And after a decade's worth of research, he discovered the stocks were exposed to high level of electromagnetic and microwave radiation. This exposure caused the stocks to become soft where they would bend instead of break and it did not kill the plants. Ew, that's disgusting. The type of technology to create something on a large scale like this just did not exist yet. So was this the just the crops that were affected in the circles that were bendy like this or it was the whole field. It was just where they were. And like that's why people were really weirded out about it because it wasn't just people going into things and cutting. Right. Because if you cut, you could do that. And like these plants are like if you had plants, these plants are bent down and that's why they were like, see, like soft. And like the weird part is they would have electromagnetic radiation. From the UFOs, not from Doug and Dave. just think of those girls who are at the rock swap. Yeah. We're testing the rocks for radiation. People going out there with their little gadgets. Like get that away from me. I just I don't know. I thought it was crazy because then you're just like, OK, that's creepy. Yeah. You know, just just you. So the next thing that I'm going to talk about, there is a clip in the show notes. And yeah, you're going to watch it. You're going to really want to watch it. So I get to watch it. Yeah, you get to watch it. Do want me to play it for you right now? Absolutely. OK. I recommend everyone watches this twice. I mean it plays it twice, but I think you should watch it twice because the first time you should watch the two orbs and the second time you should watch the ground because it's really creepy. Yeah, this thing just appears before you give away anything else. Let me now explain to them in case they don't end up. I think I'm going to time stamp the link to I have in the show notes, the YouTube link to the whole documentary on cross circles that I watched. the majority of the information and the video that I'm referencing is in that. So I'll just do the timestamp there because, yeah, I want you guys to see as original as possible as you can get. Thank you. also the problem with a lot of these. I definitely want to watch that documentary. Yeah. So the video clip in the documentary is actually the documentary is called Crop Circles Realities. And this happened in Oliver Castle's England, August 11th, 1996. Good year. It was a good year. And I was born in 1996. you didn't catch that. So in this clip, two spheres made continuous circles around a crop field. This all happened around dawn. It does look very dusky in the video. As they do, you see the crop circles appearing slowly but surely, very methodically with these spheres going around. There's two of them. at all times. And honestly, you like you saw it. And when you see the other like the original footage, especially just after I don't know if it's because I was already watching a crop circle documentary. So I was was already really invested. But that shit like both mesmerized and terrified me because I was like, okay, like, I believe you. But like, that's really scary. Yeah. What does it mean? Because like, okay, it's just cornfields now, but like, what else could they do that? Yeah, seriously. That's what I always think of. I am a 90s kid. I grew up not wanting to watch but end up watching those terrifying sci fi movies that came out in the early like 80s and 90s. And it's all alien invasions. All alien invasions, because the government in Hollywood were trying to scare us out of wanting to meet aliens. That's literally what was going on. Well, to make you feel better, the guy in my favorite alien documentary says if it's called unacknowledged, go watch it. It's a good one. You fell asleep. Yeah. I watched it multiple times already. He said if aliens wanted to kill us and take over the earth, they would have already. Yeah, they would. We're a waste of their time, I think. They're like, they're lazy. Yeah, I'm really greedy all at the same time. So yes, anyway, back to this clip. It was, yeah, it gave me the chills. And I guess what I loved most about it was who caught this on camera. His name was John Willie, and he was 19 years old. He showed up at Castle England just to study and try to catch people making crop circles. What he showed up specifically for that. A lot of people did. It was a big deal. Holy crap. Because a lot were happening in England and especially here. So he decided to do a night watch and that's when he caught this on camera. Wow. Nobody wanted to go with him. He tried, but like nobody, they were like that. It's England, right? So similar to Scotland and the Highlands. She rainy. Everyone was like, no, we don't want to do that. Yeah. But thanks. We just want to see them once they're made. So he he woke up in his tent around 4am, like I said, to some unearthly sounds. What they sound like. I don't know. I don't I can't remember what he said. Just like like weird, weird noises. Right. And he he sees the white orbs. That's all he is focused on. Right. he literally takes his camera out and he just starts recording. He gets about like 15 minutes of footage. Wow. And then it's over. And so after that happens, he literally hauls us back to town. is now four fifteen. Yeah. Sun still hasn't is hasn't really come up yet. He's back at the inn where like all the travelers and just like the people that were showing up for these things, that's where they all kind of like started their days or were staying. And he like basically waited around for everybody to start waking up and wandering in and he would just show anyone. Anyone that would. I don't think I could wait. I'd be knocking on people's doors. Let me see. And so. he keeps showing it. And one of the things that is in the footage still, and I'm glad that piece is still in there, that they have left of it anyway, is he says, that's amazing. Like, you're like, he's literally by himself, right? And it's just like, I don't know. People say things out loud. all the time, even when they're by themselves. I just, I thought that was really cool. Cause like, was a big moment for him and his voice is in that footage. Just being like, Oh, that's amazing. And it was like English accent. I don't know. Yeah. And so like, as he's showing it to everyone, he's like, still not noticing that underneath the spheres that he was recording. crop circles were happening. my goodness, he still hadn't noticed. Other people pointed it out to him, being like, look what's happening underneath. Did he go back to the my gosh. So yeah, everyone like is at the field. I can't remember this guy's name, but I didn't really want to bring any light to him because he's sounds like an awful person or just an idiot, an actual idiot. But I think he did something bad to the recording. So like I said, John Whaley was only 19 years old and he was a fool. And there was this guy that He like pretended to be like, prop circle enthusiast, but he kind of just always seemed like he was up to more. And he was like, I'll help you like, you know, get people to see the footage. And then by the time John Whaley like got his hands back on it, he was like, someone stole it from me. All that's left is this 15 seconds. Wow. And so scientists all over the world are still pissed about that. That's crazy. can't imagine how John really feels about it. But yeah, I will not speak of that man's name. I don't know. So, yeah, obviously today we're not able to see the full footage, but. footage that I did see was pretty spectacular. So great work, John Whaley. It kind of helped them also prove like, People can't do this in 15 minutes. Yeah, here it is right here. Some people still really didn't believe even after they saw that they're like that's botched like there were people trying to be like, like he drove to Burbank or wherever the heck Birmingham wherever the hell and and got like, you know, like camera people to like fix it and This one guy, like one of the scientists, like he's so hell bent on just proving that this video is real at this point. He went to Disney at one point, right? And this was like in 2000, I think. Wow. Something. he was like, can you make that motion? Because like what they would be like is like, you can see It's a 1996 camera quarter. It's like kind of like the one that we have, but way older. Yeah, don't have a screen fancy screen like that. And literally you can see him shaking, trying to hold it still. You like going up and down. All right. Because he's trying to follow it kind of like slightly. No matter where his camera goes, they are still perfectly circle. Like there's no way they're like, we can't do it. Even with this technology, like it was still look fake. Wow. Disney Disney saying. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, Ripped Disney animators. So, yeah, the documentary that was playing this had so much more to it, and it definitely like sent me down kind of a hole. I definitely learned a lot from it, but I think. Hearing all like the claims was probably what stuck with me the most there was these you know how there's like the farmer pilots I don't know what their real name is sorry I'm sure it's something aviation that's with agriculture aviators or whatever the hell they want to be called they would do their crop flights and they would go from like one side of their fields to the other side of the fields and within like 10-15 minutes bands A prop circle will pop up. Whoa. Broad daylight, broad daylight, early mornings. Like, you know what I mean? Like that. Explain it. Is there like a time frame where this is going on? This was mainly happening between like the 70s and like the late 90s is when it like. All throughout that time or the 70s pause. no, no, no, all throughout that time, but there were other. Timeframes too. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a few examples of those. Oh my This is creepy. Yeah, like could you could you imagine being that that guy and no I crashed my fucking yeah I'd be like, are they now? Where are the UFOs now? Like what if they're invisible literally? They're following me Honestly, who's to say that they're UFOs because in that video they're orbs, they could be spiritual beings. know they could be other dimensional. could and that's where we're that was a segue. You're welcome. Transition, whatever we call it. So when I first started researching crop circles, The tail of the mowing devil kept appearing. although most Crop Circle researchers- Christopher. I knew you were gonna that. my gosh. We're grateful for Christopher mowing the lawn. is just very, very particular. He keeps mowing down my milkweed. And not the NVEG subs! And not the invasive look like now. God, don't get me started. He knows what they look like now. I have faith anyway. So a lot of crop circle researchers claim it's not really considered a crop circle because the claims that like they were the crops were like cut and burnt in this in this not alien like I guess. But who are we to say? So I still think it's like. something out of this world though that's where like i kind of call it burn yeah how are you lighting just those circles on fire not the field So, do want to hear the tale? I'd love to. According to the tale, a wealthy but greedy farmer needed his 3.5 acres outfield mowed. He approached a poor local mower to do the job but refused to pay the laborers requested wage. Angered by the price, the mower went to reconsider and returned to offer a lower rate. Soared. However, the farmer... It's all like Harry Potter. However, the farmer's temper had already flared and he angrily declared that the devils himself should mow his oats before he would pay the mower's initial asking price. Wait, so let me get this straight. Wait, where'd the mowers come from to begin with? He asked them to come. Yeah. So this farmer seems lazy. And then he's like, no, I'm not going to pay you. Yeah. And so they leave. then, but the guy, as he was leaving, realizes, shit, I need money. So he tries to go back to the farmer, to the farmer, a dick, and the farmer who's a dick said, I rather have the devil himself mow my oats before I ever pay you the initial asking price. Wow. So that very night, the farmer's oat field appeared as if it were engulfed in flames. Wow. The following morning when the farmer ventured out, he found that the devil or an infernal spirit had mowed the field perfectly. The oats were cut down in neat circular patterns and the swirled work was supposedly so precise that no mortal man could possibly replicate it. Interesting. The farmer was then left so terrified by the supernatural event that he did not have the courage to go back into the field and collect the harvested crops. they're fucking burnt. So what I love about this is like this. news story. It was a news story. Okay, this happened in in 1678 newspaper a pamphlet was made. Wow. And there's way it's like five chapters and by chapters. It's like paragraphs. Okay. But it was sent out to people. and people go back and forth on if it's just like The moral of the story. Yeah, that's what I was just about to say. to your neighbors. Or if something did similar happen to it and people were like, I'm running with this. This is going to be great. so in a museum in England somewhere, there's a Crop Circle Museum. Oh, cool. that pamphlet is there. And I'm going to there'll be pictures of it right here for you guys. That's awesome. funny. picture of the devil itself is pretty funny here. show it to you in a. This was the picture on the pamphlet. look at him! Cute little devil! Cute little guy! And this is what it looked like. Wow. The Mowing Devil or Strange News out of Hartfordshire. Hartfordshire. August 22th. What the heck? It says th 1678. She was a tiff. Okay, so yeah, I just wanted to throw that one in there because I thought it was creepy and the first one that they claim they're like Because it was it was very it was like in the middle. So like not all the crops were burnt. Interesting. Very creepy. And then like how would you get how would someone do that in the 1600s? Exactly that precisely. Not happening. Well, and burn it so precisely. How do you get flame? Yeah. In the middle of the field. Enough of it to burn a whole ass crop circle and not kill the plants also Yeah, that doesn't make sense. What they were just toasted. I'm confused. I have no idea So, yeah, there you have it so anyway another incident Now where UFOs are claimed to be the culprit of a crop circle. I found this one on Wikipedia the huge black hole for crop circle I had to stop. I thought you meant there was nothing. was like that's surprising. No, no, no, I mean, I so You mean rabbit hole. Yeah, rabbit hole. So here's the quote an 1880 letter to the editor of Nature Nature by an amateur scientist by the name of John Rand Capron describes how several circles of flattened crops in a field were formed under suspicious circumstances, and possibly caused by cyclonic wind action. Wow. Stating as viewed from a distance, circular spots, they all presented much the same character. A few standing stocks at a center, some prostrate stocks with their heads arranged pretty evenly in a direction forming a circle around the center. and outside there are circular wall of stocks which had not suffered at all. I don't like that. And that's in 1880. So a lot of scientists, will like, people are like, okay, if crop circles are real, then why are they just happening in England? They weren't just happening in England, they were happening all over the place. They were happening in fields in Canada, they were happening fields in America, they were happening fields in Afghanistan, in India, in Russia. People just weren't talking about it as much. And then they were like, well, why are they just, you know, on the sides of the roads and your big populations? It's like, because the aliens want to communicate to us, not to the fucking desert. I think it's so interesting. Yeah, that's a good point. I think it's so interesting that now that we have social media and that we would be able to communicate easier across. Across like country borders to be like, this is happening everywhere, not just here. Yeah. But it's not happening. And when they were like kind of. And they were like kind of diving into like, OK, so why did they start simple? And it's just like people were going to the crop circle. So maybe the aliens thought we knew what they were saying. You know what I mean? Like maybe they were like, they get it. Let's do another one. Right. You know what I mean? We didn't get it. We were too busy fighting each other on if it was real or not, because that's what we actually like to do. And that's why I think it stopped, honestly. Because they were like, they're idiots. They don't know what we're saying to them. That makes sense. So yeah. So maybe it's an angry neighbor, maybe even the devil. It could also be Doug and Dave, those bastards. But after a few too many crop circle clips, my bet is still on the skies, honestly. UFOs. I think as a human, we spend too much time trying to disprove things better or more sophisticated than ourselves. Crop circle formations is definitely an example of that. Yeah. Like I said. We're dumb, dumb. I like me too. I have no clue. but yeah, so that's, that's what I've got for my little mini soda and crop circles today. That was awesome. Thank you. lot of good information. Yeah. It was a fun to watch. the, the documentary that I watched, it's just over an hour. It's not anything too crazy. And it was pretty funny. There's like, A few scientists on there that you can tell they're just they spend their entire life just being angry about it. I love people like that, such an English move to And Dave. They don't say that. Fuck the guy who took the video from. We won't even speak his name. What was that kid's name? I don't know. I didn't write it down. the other kid, John Whaley, John Whaley, man. How old is John Whaley now? Who knows? I can't do math. like 50s I think. was 19. Yeah, he's about to be 50 this year. Happy 50th birthday John Whaley. You're a hero. You're a hero. Speaking of birthdays, before we head out for the day. Get into our farmer's almanac. We have a special birthday in the house that we would like to announce. Her name is Sweet Stevie. Stevie! Hi Stevie, come here. Today as we record this is July 18th, Stevie's sixth birthday. Come on up. Here's Miss Stevie. Here she is. Yes. Cutie pie. Say hello Stevie. Well, happy birthday Stevie. Everybody loves you. birthday Stevie. Thank you for the hug. Yes. Stevie says thank you everybody for the happy birthday wishes. All right, now for the farmer's almanac. What you got? Today is July 23rd. Mercury is stationary again after being in retrograde since June 9th. Has that what's been going on? That makes me feel better. Everything's crazy. Crazy all the time. We'll blame it on Mercury. And Black Eyed Susan's bloom now. I've been seeing them start. have some right over here that have started. see them right out our window. We some in our field too. That was a pretty tame farmer's almanac. Well, I'm not done. geez. Today is the best day to brew, demolish, buy a home, advertise to sell, mow to promote growth, plant above ground crops, breed animals, and slaughter. livestock. Yikes. I think that's our busiest day yet. Well, I guess I spoke too soon. Yeah. I was like, some good news. Mercury's out of retrograde. Great. Get busy. Everybody go back to work. Well, thanks for tuning in, everybody. Make sure to follow us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok. Talk. Nice job remembering. At Two Tools No Clue podcast. You can subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com slash Two Tools No Clue and you can email us your stories, your complaints. Your happy birthday wishes to Stevie this week. You don't have to yell at me. If you don't believe in crop circles, you can yell at me if you want. I'm just gonna spam you with a bunch of videos. Tell us about your beliefs about crop circles. Are they real or is it Doug and Dave? Doug and Dave, those bastards. Doug and Dave Beyond the Grave. That was really good. 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