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- 0:01Jake Harrow, the father of seven month old Emmanuel Harrow, was
- 0:06sentenced yesterday to 25 years to life for the murder of his
- 0:11seven month old son. Was it enough?
- 0:15And what happens next with Rebecca Harrow?
- 0:20Let's talk about it. This video contains mature
- 0:35themes and discussions intended only for adult audiences.
- 0:39Viewer discretion is advised. Well, hello there, my friend and
- 0:44welcome back to another true crime conversation, this time
- 0:49about 7 month old Emmanuel Harrow, whose body, by the way,
- 0:54has still not been found. But on this channel, if you're
- 0:59new here, we like to cut through the sensationalism.
- 1:02We'd like to cut through the fluff.
- 1:03We'd like to get right down to the nitty gritty of true crime.
- 1:06And if that's something that you like, then you found the right
- 1:09place and I'm glad you have. I hope you stick around.
- 1:12OK. Let's not bury the lead.
- 1:14This guy right here, Jake Harrow pleaded guilty to the murder of
- 1:20his son, A7 month old child. Now there is so much about this
- 1:26case that is just beyond the pale.
- 1:29It's it's even offensive to think about just just how bad it
- 1:35is. We've gone over it here on the
- 1:39channel. We've done 6 or 7 videos on
- 1:41this, on this case, but the, the main thing, the main theme is
- 1:47that this guy pleaded guilty to CA of his other child and was
- 1:56given a complete and utter slap on the wrist.
- 2:00He hurt her so badly that she still, according to the DA and
- 2:07the Riverside County Sheriff's Office, she still, she, she has
- 2:13like a lifelong disability because of how badly he beat her
- 2:20when she was just a little one, like 10 months old or 10 weeks
- 2:25old. I can't.
- 2:26It was so beyond the pale. And he was given a slap on the
- 2:31wrist. And now a 7 month little baby
- 2:35Angel boy is whose body has never been found, is dead,
- 2:41presumed dead. And Jay Caro has pleaded guilty
- 2:45to that crime. And indeed has now been
- 2:49sentenced. So let's just do a quick little
- 2:53recap. I brought up a Los Angeles Times
- 2:56article that was written back in August but updated today just to
- 3:01just to bring us up to up to speed.
- 3:04OK. And I'm just going to kind of
- 3:05zip through this little bit on October 14th.
- 3:12Rebecca Harrow right here reported her son Emmanuel
- 3:18missing and she said that she was at a Big 5 sporting goods
- 3:26store changing the baby's diaper when from out of nowhere she
- 3:31gets knocked unconscious, comes to and the baby is nowhere to be
- 3:35seen. Of course, that like made
- 3:41everybody look for this child, but it wasn't long before
- 3:47everybody kind of went, no, probably not.
- 3:52There were some inconsistencies with the statement.
- 3:55She declined to do an interview. And so by, by the following day,
- 4:02because I think they reported Emmanuel missing on the 15th, by
- 4:08the following day, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 4:10So the, the next day on the 17th, the couple's other child,
- 4:16a 2 year old sibling, Emanuel sibling, was taken into custody
- 4:22because they were afraid for the child's life.
- 4:25As the case continued to kind of go through.
- 4:30I I mean, this case captured national attention, maybe
- 4:34international attention, and, and it came to light that Jake
- 4:42had a had a conviction, he had a criminal history.
- 4:47He had a conviction, convicted of cruelty to a child in 2024.
- 4:54And he was also, yeah, in possession of a handgun.
- 4:59So an arrest warrant was filed for Jake in the child cruelty
- 5:02case involving a baby girl. Authorities responded to his
- 5:05home after the girl was admitted to the hospital.
- 5:07This is back in 2021 with multiple broken bones.
- 5:11According to court documents, the man told investigators he
- 5:14accidentally dropped the child on a sink as he bathed her.
- 5:19Doctors reported rib and skull fractures and a brain hemorrhage
- 5:23that is bleeding of the brain as investigators spoke with the
- 5:27father in connection with Emanuel's case.
- 5:29Community members in the Inland Empire, that is San Bernardino
- 5:32and Riverside counties, they refer to that area as the Inland
- 5:37Empire. Gathered in the parking lot of
- 5:39the Bit of 5 sporting goods store in Yucaipa where the baby
- 5:42was reportedly kidnapped. Had a candlelight vigil on the
- 5:4520th. The law enforcement seized
- 5:50Jake's vehicle on the 22nd. They were both arrested on
- 5:55suspicion of murder in their Cabazon home.
- 5:59I'm going to read a couple of official statements just to
- 6:02bring us back up to date before we get into what I think was
- 6:05maybe the the most important part of the sentencing hearing
- 6:09yesterday. And that was a statement by
- 6:11Rebecca Harrow's mother, Mary. It's about a 10 minute
- 6:16statement. We're going to watch that
- 6:17together. But yeah, so on the 24th in an
- 6:23orange jumpsuit, sheriff's deputies, other law enforcement
- 6:28were seen looking for remains of a child and Jay Cara was with
- 6:33them in in his orange jumpsuit right off the 60 on the 26th.
- 6:38They were charged with murder and making a false report to law
- 6:41enforcement officers. The arraignment was continued to
- 6:46the September 4th. County officials stated publicly
- 6:52that the baby was a victim of CA.
- 6:55Over time. This baby was only seven months
- 6:59old who eventually succumbed to those injuries.
- 7:04DA Hesteran was joined by Riverside County Sheriff Chad
- 7:07Bianco and San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus in a press
- 7:11conference to deliver updates on the case.
- 7:13We watch that here on the channel.
- 7:17Rebecca and Jake entered a plea of not guilty on the 4th of
- 7:21September. This is actually moved pretty
- 7:24darn quickly on the 16th. You guys will remember that Jake
- 7:27changed his plea and he changed his plea to guilty of second
- 7:33degree murder. Of course, body still wasn't
- 7:39found. Cause of death not disclosed.
- 7:41Whereabouts of the infant's remains continue to be a
- 7:43mystery. And then yesterday, father was
- 7:46sentenced for murder, sentenced to 25 years of the life in
- 7:51prison in connection with baby Emanuel's disappearance.
- 7:54Rebecca Harrow, she will have her next hearing in January.
- 7:59She continues to have a not guilty plea.
- 8:04Now, just real quick, this is the press release from the 27th.
- 8:11I think we kind of kind of covered everything there.
- 8:19Yeah. Let's just see if there's
- 8:20anything. Yeah, nothing.
- 8:23We've got everything there. And then this is something that
- 8:25we've covered as well. This is when he changed his plea
- 8:29from not guilty to guilty of second degree murder.
- 8:36So. So let's see.
- 8:38He pleaded guilty to murder, child endangerment, filing a
- 8:41false police report. He was scheduled to be sentenced
- 8:46yesterday, which he was. I don't think, I don't think
- 8:51there's anything else that we have in there.
- 8:53OK. So let's read the release from
- 8:55yesterday, OK? Today, November 3rd, a judge
- 8:59sentenced the father of seven month old Emmanuel Harrow after
- 9:02he pled guilty to the court last month.
- 9:04Jake Mitchell Harrow, date of birth 2/9/93 of Cabazon, was
- 9:09sentenced to 25 to life by Judge Gary Polk at the Riverside Hall
- 9:14of Justice. He was charged with one count
- 9:18each of murder, assault on a child under 8, causing death,
- 9:22and filing a false police report.
- 9:24The court found CA resulting in death to be the principal
- 9:27offense and imposed an indeterminate term of 25 years
- 9:33to life in state prison. Harrow was also sentenced to 180
- 9:37days for filing a false police report in his prior CA case.
- 9:41The court imposed an additional 6 year term and another eight
- 9:45months for being a felon in possession of a firearm.
- 9:49All sentences ordered to run consecutively.
- 9:52Hara was further ordered to pay $10,000 in restitution.
- 9:55He was credited with 551 days for time served.
- 9:59I would imagine that that included time that he served
- 10:03while he was awaiting the other case.
- 10:07Just some quick math here, 551, that's about 18 months that he
- 10:15has credit. So it looks like 25 to life plus
- 10:206 + 8 -, + 8 months -18 months. So hopefully for the rest of his
- 10:27life, quote the lies he told in this case only deep in the
- 10:33tragedy of Emmanuel's death. Riverside County DA Mike Hestrin
- 10:36said while today's sentence represents a measure of
- 10:39accountability for Jay Caro, our office will continue to seek
- 10:42justice as the case against Co defendant moves forward.
- 10:46That of course is Rebecca Jay Caro blah blah blah.
- 10:52His wife Rebecca, date of birth 2/3/84, maintains her not guilty
- 10:58plea. Next hearing is a federal felony
- 11:01settlement conference scheduled for January 21st.
- 11:05I think as of the news release as of yesterday, the remains
- 11:11have not been found. Now let's pause this.
- 11:16Let's talk before we do the video, which I am really looking
- 11:20forward to what I've done with the video.
- 11:22It's thanks to court TVII think there was just a pool camera in
- 11:26there because I saw the exact same shots on the local ABC
- 11:29channel, the local NBC affiliate as well.
- 11:32So I think it was just a pool camera, but I, I'm getting this
- 11:36from court. TVI bumped up the audio a little
- 11:38bit so we could hear her better. And I, I kind of edited it.
- 11:43I didn't, I didn't cut and splice it.
- 11:45I just kind of took the first couple minutes of her testimony
- 11:51or her, I guess, victim impact statement off because it was her
- 11:54spelling her name and kind of doing that sort of thing.
- 12:00But we're going to watch that in just a second.
- 12:02Before we do, let's see what you guys are talking about over
- 12:06here. Oh, I did do a poll asking you
- 12:11guys was the 25 to life enough? Out of 84 votes, it looks like
- 12:1813% said yes and 87% said no. So I think most of you are on
- 12:28the same, my same line of thinking.
- 12:34See if there's anything else. Oh my goodness, you guys are not
- 12:38putting your GFS in there. Not so Nothing you wanted me to
- 12:43nothing you wanted me to see. OK, so good.
- 12:45We're moving right along. Let us head on over to this
- 12:51right here, which I already have up.
- 12:55And again, I bumped up the audio.
- 12:57It should not blow out your eardrums.
- 12:59I kept it 6 DB down, but I I kind of compressed it up, tried
- 13:04to get rid of some of the noise. So it does, there are some kind
- 13:09of digital artifacts of trying to get rid of the noise and
- 13:11bumping it up a little bit. I hope you guys don't mind that,
- 13:14but I wanted us all to be able to hear what she said.
- 13:17Here we go. I wanted Jake to face me, to
- 13:21look at me. This is Rebecca Harrow's mother,
- 13:24Mary. The last name is different.
- 13:31Because I told him that I would be here for his sentence.
- 13:34And before he was arrested, I talked to him about as a friend
- 13:42to tell me everything because he didn't give me the opportunity
- 13:46to meet my grandson. He destroyed my whole family.
- 13:51He branded his children for life.
- 13:56He damaged her children, all his children for life.
- 13:59And in in doing that, he destroyed my family, my
- 14:04children, everybody in my family, all my children are
- 14:08destroyed by this. He changed my daughter to where
- 14:13we don't know who she is. He never gave me a chance to see
- 14:18my grandchildren. He kept my daughter away.
- 14:22I don't know what he did or what how he changed my daughter's
- 14:25life. Ah, hold on, I.
- 14:29Just. Real quick calligraphy.
- 14:33Not sure how the plea directly to the court judge works either.
- 14:38OK, it's going to be different in every municipality, you know,
- 14:42every county, every state, it's going to be very different.
- 14:45But as it was explained by DA Hestran, the there are two ways
- 14:52that A, that a defendant can plead guilty.
- 14:57Number one is by negotiating with the district attorney's
- 15:02office for basically there whichever party has a little bit
- 15:08of leverage, they will negotiate.
- 15:11And then based on that plea deal that they make, the District
- 15:15Attorney will agree to certain things.
- 15:17They'll null process or drop certain charges.
- 15:19They will recommend a certain sentence.
- 15:22They will, you know, they will lower charges, that sort of
- 15:27stuff. And then it is presented to the
- 15:29court. Now I know at least in the
- 15:31Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, the court does not have to abide
- 15:35by the plea agreement, but typically does.
- 15:39Then according to Hestrin, there is the kind where in a court
- 15:44conference, having not negotiated with the with the
- 15:49district attorney's office, a defendant may just say, I'm
- 15:52going to plead guilty. I'm changing my plea from not
- 15:56guilty to the guilty. I did it, Your Honor.
- 15:58And in those kinds of hearings, the the judge will go, do you
- 16:02understand that you're giving up your rights?
- 16:05And they will, you know, they will ask a bunch of questions to
- 16:07make sure that the person is knowingly changing the plea.
- 16:13They know what the consequences of that are.
- 16:15And then the court, there is no agreement with the district
- 16:19attorney's office. There was no negotiation.
- 16:21So that it's solely in the court's hands.
- 16:24That's what I understand to have happened the first time.
- 16:28And that is what happened this time.
- 16:30Do. You want to live with him.
- 16:35The only reason Rebecca came back because in March I had a
- 16:39stroke and my daughter, my son got hold of her and told her I
- 16:44was in ICU. That's How I Met McKenzie, my 2
- 16:49year old granddaughter. I didn't even know she existed.
- 16:53I was not aware that she was pregnant with McKenzie.
- 16:56I was not aware that she was pregnant with Emmanuel.
- 16:59I never met Emmanuel. Oh.
- 17:02This is sad. You know what, on my end I did.
- 17:05I guess I didn't see a bunch of comments.
- 17:06Sorry about that guys. That it it hasn't refreshed for
- 17:09me. No, it deprived everybody.
- 17:14Listen to this. This is sad.
- 17:16And it has hurt my children because the media has torn all
- 17:22of my children apart, OK. Because they say Grandma knows.
- 17:28Grandma isn't on it. Grandma doesn't know nothing.
- 17:33If I had known what was going on, I would have take her, take
- 17:40my daughter out of there forcefully or I would have
- 17:42called the police. My children, my sons would have
- 17:45come and got her. OK.
- 17:49Never, never did. Whoever knew anything.
- 17:53If I had known when I called social service, when Rebecca
- 17:58moved in, I called social service to let them know that I
- 18:02didn't like him, that because my granddaughter Irene.
- 18:09Meredith I this is just my opinion.
- 18:13I don't know, but he did not he did not bargain with the
- 18:17district attorney's office. So will he testify against
- 18:21Rebecca? I'm he could be called as a
- 18:23witness, I'm sure, but he hasn't agreed to There was no
- 18:33agreement, which is really interesting she.
- 18:35Didn't want to be there. She called me and she says,
- 18:38Grandma, I don't want to be there.
- 18:41OK. So I called social service.
- 18:44I asked social service to give me a report of what had
- 18:48happened, what they found out. Oh no, she's fine.
- 18:52The house is beautiful. The the they have food in the
- 18:56fridge. That's it.
- 19:00Have social service come and told me what he had done to
- 19:03promise his other children nothing.
- 19:07Nothing of this would be here. We wouldn't be here, I wouldn't
- 19:10be here. My grandchildren, Emmanuel
- 19:13wouldn't be gone. McKenzie wouldn't have been born
- 19:17because he had already done a lot of horrible things to his
- 19:22other children. He brand those children's for
- 19:25life and in the same way granted all my children to because I
- 19:31can't go nowhere without they asking me.
- 19:35Every time I go to the store or somebody recognizes me, they
- 19:39attack me, you know, on social media everywhere and that is not
- 19:45my joy or my children. This has been horrible for us.
- 19:59I fear I was glad to David got arrested because I fear.
- 20:04For my daughter's life, I fear for everybody.
- 20:13And, you know, he had a second chance.
- 20:16My daughter didn't have a chance with him or his children.
- 20:20His children didn't have a second chance.
- 20:24And I think the judge that let him go should be here sitting
- 20:29with him. And so is social service,
- 20:33because they could have. Told me.
- 20:35Protocol doesn't allow us to tell you anything.
- 20:40Well, how are we supposed to protect our children?
- 20:42We don't know. The court knows what's going on.
- 20:50I didn't know. I called social service.
- 20:54I didn't know what he had done to his other children.
- 21:02And here he sits, you know, like nothing.
- 21:06Somebody will give him another chance.
- 21:11And I don't want that because he didn't give his children a
- 21:14chance. He didn't give my daughter a
- 21:16chance to be happy, to take care of her children.
- 21:20OK. My 20 year old granddaughter, my
- 21:2618 year old granddaughter are a mess because of him.
- 21:30McKenzie it's totally changed a little baby to a three-year old
- 21:35girl that has nothing. OK, I'm very, very stressed out,
- 21:45very angry at the justice system for letting this guy give him,
- 21:50giving him a chance. Who gave my grandchildren a
- 21:52chance, a second chance? Did CPS check?
- 21:58Why didn't they tell me? Oh, look, this is what that guy
- 22:02does. He takes it out on on the
- 22:06children, on the baby. He can't do it to a grown
- 22:11person. He's not man enough to do it to
- 22:14a man, OK? He destroys so many lives, his
- 22:22mom, his brother, everybody. OK, Nobody wants to be here.
- 22:29Nobody wants to. Nobody wanted to come and look
- 22:32at, but I had to speak for my grandson and my grandchildren
- 22:40and for my children too, because they're going through every hell
- 22:43in in this world, OK? Thank you, Mom.
- 22:53I didn't warn my grandson that he passed away.
- 22:56We buried him on the 5th of August and they were saying that
- 23:00oh, we probably bury Emmanuel in my grandsons when we bury my
- 23:06grandson. OK, I.
- 23:08Think she's talking about social media on the theories?
- 23:10We bury my son, my grandson on the 5th of August, then he calls
- 23:14me on the 14th of August and say that Emmanuel is kidnapped and
- 23:18then my sister passes on the 17th of August.
- 23:22We didn't have a chance to warn any of my my sister, my
- 23:26grandson, my other grandson. Never.
- 23:29Because everybody was angry at everybody, because how could
- 23:33this happen? Why?
- 23:41I wish you could look at me and tell me why he was never in my
- 23:49house. He knew I didn't like him.
- 23:51He knew I called social service and that's why he kept my
- 23:55daughter away. He changed your soul.
- 23:58He she couldn't have no contact with me or his brothers.
- 24:02OK. And I had not had a stroke.
- 24:08I would have never met Mackenzie or, you know, probably heard it
- 24:12on the news about Imani, OK? So don't blame my children.
- 24:19The media has blamed my children.
- 24:21Everybody, the tick tockers, everybody Grandma Mary knows.
- 24:29I don't know. Nothing, OK.
- 24:33I find it an interesting statement like.
- 24:36When I stand here with you asking you to give him the
- 24:38maximum because he didn't. I don't want him to give him
- 24:43another chance. He didn't give nobody a chance.
- 24:46He had many chances. He had a chance.
- 24:50The judge give him a second chance.
- 24:52The probation give him another chance.
- 24:55The CPS. Oh, well, you know.
- 24:57No, he's fine. He's got food in the fridge and
- 24:59the house is clean. That doesn't hide it, OK.
- 25:06And that's not fair to the children to let somebody out
- 25:09like that. This is Rebecca Harrow's mother.
- 25:16And I'm sorry, Your Honor, I'm just very, very upset and very
- 25:20stressed out. And ma'am, no need to apologize.
- 25:25This proceeding here is for you to make your impact statement to
- 25:29talk about how the crime has affected you and your family.
- 25:33I do want to lead with I'm sorry for your loss, I'm sorry for all
- 25:38the hurt that you and your family have gone through, and I
- 25:42want to thank you for being here today.
- 25:44I'm here because I'm the only one that I wanted to be here
- 25:50because my children don't even want to don't trust themselves
- 25:53to come in and talk because they're so upset, so angry at
- 25:58this system, what they did. How could they give him a second
- 26:03chance? When you see the pictures of the
- 26:06little girl, how that's beyond me.
- 26:15You know, you get to do, I do drunk driving tickets and you go
- 26:19to jail or you pay a goddamn fine and he a slap on the hand.
- 26:26Go and do community work, OK? How does that happen, Your
- 26:32Honor? Yeah, he doesn't have to answer
- 26:36your questions. You get to just ask him
- 26:38questions. Anything else?
- 26:45No. Thank you.
- 26:49All right, that is that is that I found that a very interesting
- 26:57a very interesting. Let me see, let's see if I can
- 27:00like Fast forward to there we are victim impact statement.
- 27:05Now, of course they are victims. She is a victim.
- 27:10She apparently had two grandchildren that she didn't
- 27:12even know. According to her, she called
- 27:18what social services to get a welfare check and they reported
- 27:23back that everything is fine and that there's food in the fridge.
- 27:32That's, that's interesting. On the other hand, it's pretty
- 27:37easy to find a person's criminal record, pretty easy to find a
- 27:42person's criminal record. So is she claiming that she
- 27:49didn't know anything that was going on?
- 27:53I don't know. I don't want to, I don't want to
- 27:55attack her. She's, she's a victim in this.
- 27:59But I just, I don't know. I, I'm, I'm dissatisfied with
- 28:06the, with the victim impact statement.
- 28:10I really am. I was way more satisfied with,
- 28:15like, the the families of the Idaho University of Idaho
- 28:19victims. Way more satisfied with them.
- 28:23Looks like our nightbot's having a hard time, right?
- 28:28Cheryl says. OK, judge, tell her thanks and
- 28:31sit down. That's too funny.
- 28:36Yeah. You know, the the chat is going
- 28:38really slow for me, too. One man's trash.
- 28:40That's exactly what she said, Gavin.
- 28:42Yeah. So I've seen this comment a
- 28:50couple of times. I, I don't know the answer to
- 28:55that. I don't know the answer.
- 29:01You know, how do I say this? And I'm not trying to be
- 29:05politically correct. I'm just trying to be a little
- 29:07sensitive here because crime happens to everybody, like to
- 29:13all walks of life, all ethnicities and family histories
- 29:19and socioeconomic backgrounds and sexual orientations like it
- 29:24happens to everybody, all communities, let's say.
- 29:30But if you, if you live in specifically a poverty stricken
- 29:36community, then crime is just way more part of the daily life.
- 29:46And I, I kind of feel like with this family that that was the
- 29:49case. I remember one time, oh, how
- 29:53should I, I, I want to, I want to be very careful here, but OK,
- 30:00there was a family that reached out to me to cover their loved
- 30:06ones murder and I did and, and was happy to do so.
- 30:13And one of the questions I had about the victim was were they,
- 30:18you know, you know, how how were they raised?
- 30:22And, you know, what was, what was home life like and all that
- 30:26stuff. And they told me, oh, yeah, just
- 30:28normal, normal home life. And then the first time I
- 30:32visited them, I was like that, no, this is not normal home
- 30:35life, not normal. And you know, I, I just, I just
- 30:48see when I look at Grandma Mary here, I wonder if this, I mean,
- 30:57not a, not a tear shed, not a tear shed.
- 31:01Now her lip was quivering. I'm going to, I'm going to give
- 31:03her that. But it's as if she is around
- 31:09crime. Not, not not necessarily
- 31:14perpetrating. I'm not calling her a criminal.
- 31:16I'm just saying she, it's part of her life.
- 31:18So I don't know. Kimber's Ohio.
- 31:22She had to have known some of his past.
- 31:23Someone looked him up. In my opinion, yeah, he should
- 31:26be, Should be. Teresa says her other children,
- 31:32two others are in jail and prison.
- 31:35Yeah, so funny, Teresa Robbins said that is what was stated on
- 31:45another true crime channel. My apologies.
- 31:47I cannot remember which one. I listened to it yesterday.
- 31:50Yeah, Tina says unfortunately there's a lot of things that
- 31:54someone would consider normal that just aren't and never would
- 31:57be. Yeah, I let's bring up this
- 32:00picture. This little guy.
- 32:02Oh my goodness, that just breaks my heart. 7 month old, little
- 32:08chubby, beautiful baby boy. Yeah.
- 32:12I Yeah. Well, here's another one.
- 32:17Let's see. Poverty is not synonymous with
- 32:19crime. I grew up in poverty, but there
- 32:21were things my mother and father would just not abide by.
- 32:23Yeah. That that I think that's what I
- 32:26just said. I think that's true.
- 32:30But I think if we look at statistics, we would find that
- 32:34there's a greater propensity to, to violent crime, well, to all
- 32:39sorts of crime within the lower socioeconomic strata of our
- 32:44society. And part of it comes out of
- 32:47desperation. Part of it just comes out of
- 32:50being around it so much that it, it becomes normalized.
- 32:54And then there are the angels like your parents.
- 32:57And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here.
- 33:00I I'm like, there are those that just will not abide.
- 33:04I remember, you know, you guys know that I lived in Argentina
- 33:08when I was a young man and I lived in a town, served in a
- 33:12town. I was there as a missionary.
- 33:13I lived in a town called Marcos Juarez.
- 33:15It is still one of my favorite places on earth.
- 33:18I've not been there in 30 years, not since 1995.
- 33:28Yeah, not since 1995. I'm, I'm hoping to get there in
- 33:332026 with my wife and two of our children, but we would go into
- 33:40these places in Marcos Juarez that were the poorest of the
- 33:45poor and we would go and visit a family there, several families
- 33:52there that just there was a matriarch and she just would not
- 33:56abide. She was in charge.
- 33:58She would not abide. She would not let her children
- 34:01do bad things. She would not let her
- 34:03grandchildren do bad things. Her husband, you know, she, she
- 34:09would not abide. And yet they were, they were
- 34:12surrounded by by all sorts of unsavory characters and all
- 34:18sorts of of terrible, terrible things happening around them.
- 34:23But they are an example of poverty is not synonymous with
- 34:28crime for sure. Teresa says the focus of her
- 34:32statement was about her a lot, in my opinion.
- 34:35I agree with that. Let's see a couple more before
- 34:44we go. Ali Oz.
- 34:49That would explain Rebecca's attraction to the monster.
- 34:51I, I don't know. I don't know what I don't.
- 34:54I don't get that kind of stuff. Rebecca's nine years his senior.
- 35:03I I don't, Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, Analytical 1 continues.
- 35:19Let's see, where did Analytical One start?
- 35:23I don't have it on my screen. Seven of us kids all graduated
- 35:27from high school 3F college degrees.
- 35:28Grateful and thankful everyday yeah you know I mean all of us
- 35:34who are blessed with normal lives should count our blessings
- 35:39every single day. I think about it a lot.
- 35:43My dad growing up was he worked in aerospace.
- 35:47He worked in specifically in, in rocketry and I, we, I've never
- 36:00been poor. My parents were never rich
- 36:05either, right? But, but I never was poor.
- 36:10I always had. And there were a couple times
- 36:12where my parents were broke and you know, we moved into the
- 36:18basement of my grandparents home.
- 36:19In fact, there are a couple of times where Kimberly and I have
- 36:22been broke and availed ourselves of the same kind of mercy from
- 36:28our parents. But we've never been poor.
- 36:32There's always been a place to land.
- 36:34And and you know, I was listening to what song is that?
- 36:43Jim Croce, like the pine trees lining the winding Rd.
- 36:49What is that? Is that called?
- 36:50I got a name, you know, and I carry it with me like my daddy
- 36:55did. What is that?
- 36:56What is that line? And I'm living dreams that he
- 36:59kept hid, right? So yeah, I I am one of those
- 37:04generations that that have been able to kind of step out of
- 37:11where I was born, but only because I had my parents
- 37:17shoulders to to lift me up. Anyway, I don't know why I got
- 37:19on that tangent, but we all should just be very grateful for
- 37:24the blessings that we have in our lives, especially those of
- 37:27us who are not surrounded by crime on the regular and those
- 37:33who are, like, I sympathize with you and know that you can lift
- 37:39yourself out of it or can be lifted out of it by others.
- 37:42And I hope that you are. Yeah.
- 37:44Mooney's got it's. I got a name.
- 37:49That's a great song. I don't know.
- 37:53That one touches me because I'm named after my dad.
- 37:55I do carry my dad's name. And I used to hate it.
- 37:59Now I really love it. Yeah.
- 38:05You guys know. You guys know.
- 38:07It's great, Great music. Music from before I was born.
- 38:11And I love it. I love it, Lizanne Robler says.
- 38:17I've seen both. I've been both sides.
- 38:20Yeah, Robin says. My little brother is an
- 38:22aerospace engineer. Now that I know he's not poor,
- 38:25makes me think I'm going to ask for a nicer birthday.
- 38:27Gifts. That's funny.
- 38:35Lucia's sea creature. It does appear, or does it
- 38:37appear to you that in some of these photos of baby do not seem
- 38:41normal? Yeah.
- 38:42Yes. Yes.
- 38:42Yes. Yes.
- 38:43Yes, that baby seems to be cognitively impaired because of
- 38:52physical trauma. That's what I think like anybody
- 38:56would that would see that picture would go that child is
- 39:01traumatized physically. There are there are a couple
- 39:05more too. If I, if I can kind of skip
- 39:07through these, this one definitely does and this one
- 39:13definitely does to me for sure. So, so, so, so sad.
- 39:20Yes, Robin, you definitely should ask for better birthday
- 39:23gifts. Now, Speaking of gifts, guys, it
- 39:27is November of 2025. My wife and I were married in
- 39:34November of 1999, which makes this our 26th anniversary coming
- 39:39up later this month. I need help.
- 39:41OK, we're we're just going to tangent here for a second.
- 39:44OK, I need help. You can help me by asking me
- 39:49questions here. OK, we will go and everybody
- 39:52else can just tune out. Anybody who wants to help just
- 39:54stick around, OK? I am the world's worst gift
- 39:58giver. I am the least thoughtful person
- 40:01in the world. My I hate to use words like
- 40:06this, but my love language is language.
- 40:12I express my love. To my snuggly bearer, my one and
- 40:16only through language. But I would like to get her
- 40:20something. I would like to get her
- 40:23something for her 26th anniversary.
- 40:26A bobble doesn't have to be anything special.
- 40:31So let ask me questions that will that will help you
- 40:39determine what kind of gift I should get to my snuggly my one
- 40:43and only. OK so this is what I was
- 40:49thinking when we were dating for those like 3 1/2 hours when we
- 40:55were dating we would She was living at her parents house.
- 41:02She had just come home from a mission of her own and was
- 41:05living with her mother and dad. I was living in an apartment a
- 41:11few few miles away and so after our dates we would go back.
- 41:19We spent a lot of time at her folks house because she's the
- 41:23oldest of nine and she had a one year old and a four year old
- 41:26little sister. And I loved them, I still do.
- 41:31They're now 27 and 30. But anyway, I loved those little
- 41:36girls and I love to hanging out with them.
- 41:39But in her parents backyard they have a trampoline, a big like 14
- 41:45foot circular trampoline. And we would just lay on the
- 41:48trampoline, we'd look at the stars and we'd talk and we'd
- 41:50talk about the future. And that is the place where I
- 41:54suggested we get married. No, it was not a proposal
- 41:58because I was too chicken for that.
- 41:59I just suggested that we should get married.
- 42:01And she said I think that's a good idea.
- 42:02And then we were engaged. Next couple of days.
- 42:05We were buying rings anyway, so I thought the 26th anniversary
- 42:10is supposed to be a sculpture anniversary.
- 42:13Can I find a sculpture of a trampoline?
- 42:16Just a little one? It would be cute, and it would
- 42:20be a little bobble that is meaningful to us.
- 42:24But you might be surprised to learn that nobody makes
- 42:27sculptures of trampolines. Tony asks.
- 42:34Where did we meet Tony? We met at church.
- 42:39I moved into an apartment in Fair Oaks, CA and went to a
- 42:48local church and she walked in and I told my roommate, my
- 42:56friend, did you see that girl who walked in hands off?
- 43:02I'm going to ask her to marry me.
- 43:04I never did ask her to marry me. I just suggested we get married.
- 43:10It's really funny, Autumn says. Get a ring with kids.
- 43:15Birthstones. I just don't think that's my
- 43:22wife. She's not really a jewelry
- 43:24person. She wears her wedding ring.
- 43:28She wears earrings like I once got her.
- 43:32I was on a business trip in Southeast Asia somewhere where
- 43:41was I I can't remember and I bought her some Tahitian Pearl
- 43:49like earrings and a pendant. Didn't go over well.
- 43:54She's just not really a jewelry person.
- 43:57But the kids birthstones now that does add meaning.
- 44:00Yes. Does she like to read?
- 44:03She loves to read. She's a voracious reader.
- 44:08What does she like bobbly wise? She Kimberly doesn't really like
- 44:15bobbles when you when you come into our house anything that I
- 44:20take that back. But like most of the things that
- 44:24are bobbly in our life, like see behind me, see that little can't
- 44:30get them, See that guy right there?
- 44:34That's Don Quixote de la Mancha that belongs to both of us.
- 44:38But that is the yadra that was given to us by one of my
- 44:43teachers who loved Don Quixote. And it's one of the very few
- 44:49baubles we have. We have a couple of others, but
- 44:55yeah, Nope, I don't. She doesn't really like baubles.
- 45:01She does love the kiddos. She loves the kids.
- 45:05Something that would remind her of the kids would be good.
- 45:07And so, yeah, maybe, maybe Birdstone Ring Lee Zion says get
- 45:16a candle and read her a poem. Would I have to compose the
- 45:20poem? Get her a candle and read her a
- 45:25poem. That's a good idea, Handvike.
- 45:29Get her a Gretch country gentleman that she's always
- 45:32wanted. Oh, my goodness.
- 45:38I, you know me, Handvike. I've wanted that 6122 forever.
- 45:45I I don't think. I don't think she'd appreciate
- 45:47it. Do I want to get her jewelry?
- 45:54Now listen, there is one piece of jewelry that I bought her
- 45:56that she continues to wear to this day.
- 45:59And that is I bought her a nice watch.
- 46:02I think that was our 10th anniversary and and it is her
- 46:08daily wear. She wears that watch every day.
- 46:11In fact, it needs to get repaired.
- 46:13I need to, I need to get some service done on that.
- 46:16But if I think if it's functional, I think it's
- 46:21functional, yes. Like a watch.
- 46:28Maybe come to think of it, maybe she would like like an Apple
- 46:34Watch, Maybe she would wear something like that.
- 46:38I don't know, Robin says. What does she love but would
- 46:42never buy for herself? The older I get, the more my
- 46:45husband and I go for events, a concert, a play, a trip,
- 46:48etcetera. OK, let's think about this.
- 46:56The thing about my wife is that she's the world's cheapest date.
- 46:59She's the cheapest person ever. And that and what she loves is
- 47:03security. She loves the bills being paid.
- 47:08She loves groceries in the in the cupboard and in the fridge.
- 47:15She's just a very practical, pragmatic woman.
- 47:23But an event, one of the things that we did this year, we went
- 47:29to a it was a philosophical symposium that was put on by a
- 47:37local philosophy club, like a philosophy society.
- 47:41And it was the speaker was a philosophy professor, and he
- 47:47talked about Aristotelian ethics.
- 47:51And we both really enjoyed that. We we really enjoyed that.
- 47:58So maybe an event like that, maybe I could, yeah, maybe I
- 48:02could find something like that. Get her a trampoline.
- 48:07Well, listen, when you start your life with your snuggly
- 48:13barrier one and only, and it starts on a trampoline, that
- 48:17means that a trampoline is never absent from your life.
- 48:20OK, We, we, we're squared away there.
- 48:24We're squared away there. Oh.
- 48:27Oh, you might be able to find a small trampoline that's part of
- 48:31a dollhouse furnace. Slow clap for you.
- 48:39Yes, yes, yes. Trampoline music box.
- 48:44Another great one. Robin says get her a card with a
- 48:49trampoline on it saying you're so happy you both jumped into
- 48:52love together. Oh, Oh my goodness, Oh my
- 48:56goodness, that is good. Kel says write her your story.
- 49:05Oh, words are my love language and I'm not a poet.
- 49:10I'm just not. I'm not.
- 49:12I'm not a poet, but, but I can write.
- 49:16I'm, I got that from my dad too. It's not just his name.
- 49:20I got that from my dad. That's a good one.
- 49:27That is a good one. Teresa says you should get an
- 49:33image of the night sky that is exactly what you were looking up
- 49:36at that night. You were on the trampoline
- 49:42Maybe. Maybe.
- 49:45I wonder if she would find that corny.
- 49:47I am a corny person. I like this comment.
- 49:53I've been married 48 years. We made a promise to only buy
- 49:55things we could use. We were on the poor side.
- 49:58A vacation, something for our home or money for savings.
- 50:01We are practical. We are considering an investment
- 50:06right now. Not a huge investment, but it
- 50:10would it. We're considering an investment
- 50:13and well, I wouldn't want to make the investment like without
- 50:22her like definitely knowing about it and signing off on it.
- 50:26But I was thinking maybe something like that because she
- 50:29she is very practical person. Oh, there are trampoline charms
- 50:37for bracelet or necklace. OK, let's see.
- 50:42To me, experiences, says Kel, are more important.
- 50:45Maybe plan a series of adventures.
- 50:48They don't have to be huge. Oh, I like the word adventure.
- 50:50OK, listen, here's another thing about us.
- 50:52We live in Pennsylvania. Simply for the adventure.
- 50:56We did not have to leave California.
- 50:59We did want to leave California, but we also wanted to give our
- 51:04family an an opportunity for an adventure together.
- 51:09She likes adventures, so, I mean, that's why we went to
- 51:14Portugal this year, is to check it out and see if that's a place
- 51:17where we want to do our next adventure.
- 51:21So, yeah, OK. Digital photo frame, I think.
- 51:28I think that might be good for her.
- 51:30Yeah. Yeah.
- 51:31My, my wife does not make things easy.
- 51:34No she does not. What about a multi picture frame
- 51:38of old photos of you and the kids over 26 years?
- 51:44What if it had 26 little holes and there was one picture?
- 51:49You know what? That is a good idea that that
- 51:54has my wife written all over it. Right there, right there guys,
- 52:00we can stop. We can stop.
- 52:02If I did a picture frame that she something that would be like
- 52:07in our bedroom or maybe our bathroom, something that's not
- 52:11really decorative, that would be in the main house where guests
- 52:15come, something that would just be ours.
- 52:20I like that idea. Charm bracelet says Debbie First
- 52:25Charm is a trampoline maybe. So, so far what I'm getting here
- 52:31is we are going to we are going to wrap this up here in just a
- 52:35second, but I want to hear ideas about being adventurous.
- 52:41OK? I do like the multi picture
- 52:44album thing and I do love the idea of writing my story.
- 52:54So I am just going to wait for a minute for any suggestions about
- 52:57adventure, something adventurous.
- 53:01You know the other thing about Kimberly, one of the things that
- 53:03I've done over the years is she is, like I said, she's cheap.
- 53:10She is a, she is a fitness guru. She loves being physically fit.
- 53:19She exercises every single day. She teaches fitness classes, but
- 53:25she is also the world's cheapest person and so, like, her workout
- 53:30clothes could use a refresh. Her workout clothes could use a
- 53:34refresh. What if I took her to, like, the
- 53:39Nike store and just said, let's buy you some workout clothes?
- 53:49That that's an idea? Mooney says the picture idea is
- 53:55fabulous. No birthstone.
- 53:57Stick with a trampoline ornament.
- 53:59Yes. She's not cheap.
- 54:02She's economically wise. I was talking with my
- 54:06father-in-law, not this past weekend, but the weekend before
- 54:10we were out visiting them and he's so he is 73 years old and
- 54:16he's like, I'm trying really hard to not embarrass.
- 54:22And he said my mother in law's name by how cheap I am.
- 54:27I'm 70. I should be able to spend money.
- 54:33Yeah, you should. And you and you should do it.
- 54:36It's so funny, Kel says. My hubby and I love to find
- 54:42places nearest us. We've never been or places for
- 54:45food that are unique. You know what I have been
- 54:49telling Kimberly for years? That she would love Thai food.
- 54:55And we should. Yeah, she would love something
- 54:58that easy, that easy. Maybe visit a place you have
- 55:03never been. That could be a place, a
- 55:05landmark, something that you have never done before and have
- 55:07never been. But close, like within a couple
- 55:11of hours. OK, One tank trip to a cabin for
- 55:24the weekend 1. I'm not sure what a tank trip
- 55:30is, but like a weekend trip for to a cabin maybe yeah, maybe do
- 55:39something like that. All right, you guys have given
- 55:41me some great suggestions. I think the picture frame is a
- 55:46is a good. I think that's I think I think
- 55:50that's it. I think we got it.
- 55:51You guys so helpful. So helpful.
- 55:55Thank you very much. Thank you for being here also
- 55:58and mostly for baby Emmanuel. Very sorry for this little
- 56:04creature. Mera la creatura tan Lindo tan
- 56:09bejo. And his life was snatched from
- 56:15him. Tomorrow we will be back at 7:30
- 56:19PM Eastern Time on Thursday. We are going to have Elizabeth
- 56:23from Hillbilly Crime coming to visit with us.
- 56:29Robin says do not drop the ball. I will not drop the ball, Robin.
- 56:33I have I, I'm good. I've got it.
- 56:37And I'm in pitcher mode right now.
- 56:38I'm in pitcher mode because of we've got our Christmas cards
- 56:43that have to go out next month. And so I have been taking
- 56:47portraits of the family and have been laying out the Christmas
- 56:51card, which is my job every year.
- 56:53I am, I am full into I'm, I'm totally into this, totally into
- 56:59it, totally, totally into it. All right, guys, with that, I
- 57:03will bid you adieu. Thank you for being here.
- 57:05Thank you for your suggestions. Thank you for your help.
- 57:08I will see you tomorrow, 7:30 PM.
- 57:10Until then, take care of yourselves.
- 57:12Good night. Thank you very much for watching
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