Latest / Marketing Automation with Fexingo: HubSpot, Marketo, and Automated Customer Journeys / Why Marketing Automation Ignores Your Home Care
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- Lucas: So, my mom moved in with us last spring, and within two weeks I noticed something weird. Every marketing email I got was still pitched to me as an individual — the guy who buys running shoes and books flights. Not one brand picked up on the fact that I was suddenly also the person comparing walk-in tubs and researching Medicare Advantage plans. Luna: That's a huge life event, though. New home, new responsibilities. I'd think that would be a trigger for a dozen automations. Lucas: You'd think. But here's the thing: most marketing automation is built around the individual contact record. It tracks one person, one email address, one set of behaviors. The moment you become a caregiver, the real customer is the household — but the automation doesn't see households. It sees a 45-year-old who bought a treadmill last year. Luna: So the gap is that the person in the database isn't the person the marketer actually needs to convince? Lucas: Exactly. And it's not just about age. A 35-year-old could be caring for a partner with a chronic condition, or a friend dealing with cancer. The common thread is that the purchase decisions — the walk-in tub, the meal delivery service, the medication reminder app — are made by the caregiver, not the care recipient. And the caregiver's journey is totally different from what the automation assumes. Luna: I remember when my grandmother needed 24-hour care, my mom was the one researching everything. The marketing that actually got her attention was from a home-care agency that sent her a checklist — a PDF, actually — on how to have the conversation with a parent about accepting help. That felt like they understood her situation. Lucas: That's a perfect example. Because the trigger wasn't the grandmother's behavior — she wasn't online researching anything. It was the daughter's behavior, and the agency had to have built a journey that recognized the caregiver as the real buyer. But most marketing platforms don't even have a field for 'relationship to contact'. Luna: Right, or they do but it's optional and nobody fills it out. Lucas: Yeah, and that's such a missed opportunity. I looked at this one home-care startup — they're called CareBridge, I think, or maybe it was CareLinx — but the point is, they rebuilt their entire nurture flow around the family unit. They changed their lead capture to ask, 'Who are you caring for?' and that one question transformed their data. Luna: So they stopped treating the caregiver as if they were the care recipient. Lucas: Precisely. Their automations now trigger on the caregiver's journey — the first search for 'home care near me', the download of a guide on 'legal documents you need', the visit to a page about Medicaid. Each action points to a different stage of the caregiver's decision process, not the care recipient's diagnosis. And their email open rates went up, their demo requests went up, all because the messaging finally matched reality. Luna: That's a great example of using life-stage data over demographic data. I mean, '45-year-old homeowner' tells you almost nothing. But 'caring for aging parent' tells you a lot. Lucas: It does. And the interesting part is that this isn't a brand-new category. There are credit cards that let you add authorized users, and they market to the primary cardholder. But in B2C marketing automation, the household as a unit is almost never the default. Luna: Even though a huge chunk of the population is caregivers. The AARP has that statistic, I think it's like one in five Americans is a family caregiver. Lucas: Yeah, roughly 20 percent. That's a massive audience, and most brands are talking to them as if they're not there. Luna: So what would you tell a marketer who wants to fix this? Where do they even start? Lucas: First, ask the question: who is the actual decision maker in this purchase? If it's not the person in your email list, you need to model the household. That might mean adding a field for 'relationship' or 'care recipient's birth year' — something that lets you segment on life stage. Luna: And then build separate journeys for the caregiver and the care recipient. Lucas: Right. The care recipient might never open an email. The caregiver is the one who needs the educational content, the reassurance, the step-by-step guides. So your trigger logic has to think in terms of the caregiver's milestones, not the care recipient's medical history. Luna: And you have to respect that the caregiver is time-pressed. They're not browsing Pinterest for fun. They're on a mission. Lucas: That's a key point. The caregiver's journey is high-stakes and often emotionally charged. The automation needs to be empathetic, not aggressive. We saw that with the home-care startup — their best performing email was a simple, 'We know this is hard. Here's a checklist to make it easier.' No discount, no urgency. Just understanding. Luna: That's what got my mom's attention, too. It was the empathy that stood out. Lucas: And that's the thing about these life-event triggers — they're not like buying a new phone. There's a lot of emotional weight. The automation that wins is the one that acknowledges the reality, not the one that just tries to sell. Luna: So what's the one question every marketer should ask before building any journey? Lucas: Ask yourself: if I looked at the journey from the customer's perspective, would it feel like it was written for their actual life? Or would it feel like it was written for a persona in a slide deck? Because the gap between those two is where the money leaks out. Luna: That's a good way to frame it. A lot of the time the persona is a fictional composite, and the real customer is messier than that. Lucas: Messier, but also more predictable in some ways. Caregivers share common pain points — lack of time, guilt, confusion about options. If you map those, the journey becomes clear. Luna: Speaking of clear journeys, if today's episode gave you a useful way to think about your own automation, the best way to keep that going is to support the show. Lucas and I are ad-free, and that's only possible because of listeners like you. You can buy us a coffee at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small gesture that means the world to us. And it's not just about the coffee — it's about keeping this podcast free of the interruptions that would otherwise come from ads. Luna: And it's easy to do. Just go to buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's it. Lucas: Alright, so we've covered the why and the how. But I want to end with a thought about the future. As automation gets smarter, the household as a unit is going to become more important, not less. Because the moments that actually drive our lives — caring for a parent, raising a kid, moving — they almost always involve more than one person. Luna: So it's not about individualizing more, it's about understanding the web of relationships. Lucas: Exactly. The brands that figure that out are going to have a serious advantage. The ones that stick to the old individual-only model are going to keep missing the moments that matter.