Latest / Health, Life & What’s Next / I Got Fed Up, Quit the ER, and Opened a Clinic I Had No Idea How to Run
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- 0:00Welcome to Health, Life and What's Next.
- 0:03with Dr.
- 0:03Jennifer Ginty.
- 0:05This is the podcast where we explore what it really means to live well through honest conversations about health, life, business, and everything in between.
- 0:17Because remember, healing is about more than medicine.
- 0:21I'm so glad you are here.
- 0:24Let's get into today's conversation today's podcast gonna give you some insight on how, why I opened my clinic.
- 0:33How my clinic actually started, because I think people assume there was a plan.
- 0:38There was not a plan.
- 0:40There was no five years business strategies.
- 0:42There was no business plan.
- 0:43There was no investor deck.
- 0:45There's no Dr.
- 0:46Gentille has decided to become an entrepreneur.
- 0:49I didn't wake up one morning feeling brave, inspired, and ready to build my dream clinic.
- 0:55I woke up one day fed up, and sometimes I think anger get a bad reputation because anger can make you reckless.
- 1:04Absolutely, I agree.
- 1:06But sometimes anger is the emotion that finally tells you, you have tolerated something long enough, and that is basically how my business begun, what you know today as The Wellness Corner NJ.
- 1:19At the time, I was working with a chiropractor in a chiropractic clinic, and there were moments when I started feeling uncomfortable with the direction things were going.
- 1:30There were recommendations being pushed that, in my opinion, as the doctor involved, were not always about what I believe was in the best interest of the patients.
- 1:41I felt like money was becoming too much of the conversation, and that bothered me a lot because I can tolerate a lot of things, but when I felt like the business decision and the patient decision are starting to become the same decision, I had a problem.
- 1:56And eventually, I got to the point where internally I was saying, I cannot keep doing this." I wasn't saying this is, annoying or maybe someday I'll leave.
- 2:05No, I was just saying I was done, and something in me snap into clarity one day.
- 2:10I remember having this realization, If I am going to be responsible for the medicine, then I needed to be responsible for the environment in which I am practicing it." And that was it.
- 2:20I did not want somebody else's business priorities deciding how I practice medicine.
- 2:25And once I knew that, I couldn't un-know it.
- 2:28Now, here's where the story gets ridiculous because any reasonable person probably would have said,"Okay, Dr.
- 2:36J, let's make a business plan.
- 2:38Let's research.
- 2:39Let's save money.
- 2:40Let's find a mentor.
- 2:41Let's study the market.
- 2:42Let's understand operation, firing, hiring, understand marketing, build system." Maybe know literally anything about running a medical practice.
- 2:51That would have been sensible.
- 2:52I basically said,"Nope, I'm opening my own clinic." And then discovered 12 minutes after that decision that being a doctor and running a medical business are two completely different professions.
- 3:06Nobody tells you that.
- 3:07I knew how to take care of patients.
- 3:10I can diagnose, I can treat, I can prescribe, I can identify the root causes, but I did not know how to run a clinic, a company, a business.
- 3:19Those are not transferable skills just because both involved a clipboard.
- 3:23I had no idea what I was getting myself into, and I don't mean that in the cute entrepreneurial way people are saying,"Oh, none of us really know what we were doing." We hear this online, right?
- 3:34Like people telling you,"I just opened my business.
- 3:36I had no idea." No, literally, I had no idea what I was getting myself into.
- 3:40I knew medicine, yes.
- 3:41Business, completely different language.
- 3:44Suddenly, I had to think about things I had never gone to medical school to learn, like people.
- 3:51I had to think about operation, systems, money, marketing, who does what happens when somebody doesn't do what they're supposed to do.
- 3:59How do people find you?
- 4:01How do you keep the doors open?
- 4:03What does something actually cost?
- 4:05How do you come up with the price?
- 4:07Profit, revenue, how to look at your numbers, P&L.
- 4:11How many patients do you need to make a revenue to keep your doors open?
- 4:15How do you build a team?
- 4:17How do you lead people when nobody taught you how to lead?
- 4:21And the biggest surprise, being the smartest person in the medical room does not make you the smartest person in the business room, and that humbled me very quickly because medicine trained me to be competent, to be great, to be brilliant, to be smart.
- 4:37Business introduced me to being a beginner again, and I don't like being a beginner.
- 4:42I'm used to knowing, but business kept saying,"Oh, that's cute.
- 4:45Here's another thing you don't understand." But the clinic wasn't born only because I was angry.
- 4:51That was just the trigger.
- 4:53The deeper reason had been building for years.
- 4:57I was very unhappy, and I don't think I fully understood how unhappy I was at that time.
- 5:03I was working in the ER, great job, respectable job, reliable income, the kind of career people congratulate you for having.
- 5:11And from the outside, there wasn't necessarily a reason to blow it up But internally, I felt empty.
- 5:18I would go to work, see patients after patients, treat the immediate problem, prescribe the medication, stabilize them, discharge them.
- 5:26Next.
- 5:26That's emergency medicine, and emergency medicine is incredibly important.
- 5:32There are brilliant doctors, physicians, practitioners doing life-saving work every day.
- 5:38But eventually had to admit it wasn't enough for me anymore.
- 5:42I wanted to know people.
- 5:44I wanted to understand why they kept coming back.
- 5:46I wanted to know what happened before the emergency, what happened after they left, what was happening the rest of their lives.
- 5:56I wanted the part of medicine that there simply wasn't time for in that setting, and I was also never home.
- 6:04There comes a point when success start asking you a question nobody prepared you for, and the question is this: Is the life this career gives me still worth what the career is taking away from me?
- 6:17And that's different from do I like my job?
- 6:20I didn't wake up hating medicine.
- 6:23I love medicine.
- 6:25I started realizing I didn't like the way I was living medicine, so that's a huge difference.
- 6:30And I think that's where people get stuck in many things in life.
- 6:34We think we're only allowed to leave when something is terrible.
- 6:38The job has to be toxic, the relationship has to be awful, the business has to fail, somebody needs to betray you, there needs to be like a villain.
- 6:47Sometimes there isn't one, and sometimes the truth is simply this worked for me until it didn't.
- 6:52That's much harder to explain to people, especially family.
- 6:55Because when something looks good from the outside, people don't understand why you would risk it, and my family absolutely had question, because think about what I was saying.
- 7:06I'm giving up emergency medicine, a stable job, to open a business that I have never run before, to practice the medicine that most people are not looking for or most people understand.
- 7:16So with no guarantee it is going to work.
- 7:19Sounds fantastic when you say it out slowly.
- 7:23Of course, people thought,"What are you doing?
- 7:25Why would you leave stability?
- 7:27Why take on all this risk?
- 7:29You worked so hard to become a doctor.
- 7:32Why not just keep the job?" And logically, they weren't wrong.
- 7:36That's what made it so hard.
- 7:38Sometimes the people who love you give you advice that makes complete sense.
- 7:43For a life, they are not the ones living.
- 7:46That doesn't make them bad.
- 7:48They are looking at risk.
- 7:50You are living the cost of staying.
- 7:52These are two completely different calculations, and I think that's the part people don't understand about big decisions.
- 7:58Everyone sees the risk of leaving.
- 8:01Very few people can see the risk of staying somewhere that is slowly draining you.
- 8:05There's no spreadsheet for that.
- 8:07What is the financial value of being fulfilled?
- 8:09What is the cost of never being home?
- 8:12What is the cost of knowing something isn't right and continu- continuing it because it's secure?
- 8:17What does 10 more years of that cost?
- 8:19Nobody had that number.
- 8:21Neither did I.
- 8:22I just knew I could not keep pretending the safe option felt safe anymore, so I opened the clinic, and I wish I could tell you this is the part where inspirational music starts playing.
- 8:35Dr.
- 8:35Jenti follows her purpose, doors open, patients arrive Right?
- 8:42Everybody claps.
- 8:43No.
- 8:44This is where the universe said,"Oh, you wanted to be an entrepreneur?
- 8:47Excellent.
- 8:48Now let's begin the curriculum." And the curriculum was aggressive because suddenly every weakness you have get exposed.
- 8:55If you avoid a difficult conversation, business finds one for you.
- 8:59If you don't understand money, business makes that very expensive.
- 9:04If you're bad at delegating, congratulations, you now have 12 jobs.
- 9:09If you hire the wrong person, you will feel it.
- 9:11If you don't build system, everything lives in your head.
- 9:15If marketing doesn't work, nobody shows up simply because you're a good doctor, right?
- 9:20Being clinical excellent does not automatically make the phone ring.
- 9:25I had to learn all of that.
- 9:27And there were moments when I thought, What the hell did I do?" Of course, there were.
- 9:32That's the part success stories leave out.
- 9:35They tell you the origin backwards, right?
- 9:38Once something works, we make the beginning sounds like easy.
- 9:42Oh, she always knew.
- 9:44No, I knew I couldn't stay where I was.
- 9:47That's not the same as knowing exactly where I was going.
- 9:50That's a difference.
- 9:52I didn't have certainty.
- 9:54I had conviction, and sometimes conviction is all you get.
- 9:58I also learned something else very quickly.
- 10:01Freedom and responsibility arrive in the same package.
- 10:05I wanted freedom, AKA my own clinic, my own decisions, my own approach to medicine.
- 10:11Great.
- 10:11But guess who is now responsible when something goes wrong?
- 10:15Me.
- 10:16When you employed, there are problems you can hand over to somebody else.
- 10:22When you own the thing, eventually the problem gets to your desk Staff issues is yours.
- 10:27Financial issues, you got it.
- 10:30Patient experience, all yours.
- 10:31Marketing not working, that's your problem.
- 10:33Entrepreneurship gave me more control over my life and introduced me to a level of responsibility I had never experienced before.
- 10:41Both things were true, and I think this is where social media has completely distorted entrepreneurship.
- 10:47You see the title on a video, be your own boss.
- 10:50Let me tell you something.
- 10:52When you own a business, you may discover you now have more bosses than you had before.
- 10:58Patients, employees, payroll, bills, the market, your calendar, Google Everybody has an opinion.
- 11:05You escaped the nine to five, and now you're thinking about the business in the morning.
- 11:09But even with all of that, I knew I was where I was supposed to be, and that is something that is very difficult to explain One of the strangest things about opening that clinic was realizing I had finally created the freedom I wanted, and then immediately had to grown into the person capable of handling it, and that's something nobody told me.
- 11:29Sometimes your dream arrives before your identity catches up.
- 11:33I had wanted autonomy.
- 11:34Now I had it.
- 11:36But autonomy requires decision-making.
- 11:38I wanted leadership.
- 11:39Leadership requires uncomfortable conversations.
- 11:42I wanted a team.
- 11:43A team requires management.
- 11:44I wanted impact.
- 11:45Impact requires structure.
- 11:47I wanted to practice medicine differently.
- 11:49Now I had to prove that the business supporting that medicine could survive.
- 11:53You don't just get the dream, you get the assignment attached to it.
- 11:58And there were days, and there were days I missed the simplicity of being an employee, right?
- 12:04You finish your shift, you go home.
- 12:06The hospital still exists tomorrow, whether you think about it or not.
- 12:10When it's your own clinic, you can physically leave, but part of your brain is still in the building.
- 12:17I had to learn boundaries at the beginning.
- 12:19What boundaries?
- 12:20The clinic and I were basically in a toxic, codependent relationship.
- 12:25It needed everything.
- 12:27I gave everything, and somehow we both survived.
- 12:30But when I look back now, I don't think the greatest thing the clinic gave me was a business.
- 12:36It gave me a completely different relationship with myself.
- 12:39Before that, I had followed an established path, right?
- 12:42School, medicine, career, work hard, perform, progress.
- 12:46There are rules.
- 12:47Entrepreneurship took me away from those rules.
- 12:50Nobody was coming to tell me,"Dr.
- 12:53Jay, here's exactly what happen next." I had to decide, and sometimes I was wrong.
- 12:58A lot of times I was wrong.
- 13:00That may have been one of the most important things that ever happened to me.
- 13:04Because when you spent your life succeeding academically and professionally, being wrong can feel almost dangerous.
- 13:12Business cured me of that very quickly.
- 13:15Wrong hire, wrong idea, wrong strategies, wrong assumptions.
- 13:20Okay, what did we learn?
- 13:21So that's what entrepreneurship gives you.
- 13:24And here's something else I had to learn.
- 13:26You cannot build a business based entirely on being a good person.
- 13:30That one took me a while because I thought,"No, take care of people.
- 13:34Treat employees well.
- 13:36Give people chances.
- 13:37Be ge- generous.
- 13:38Work hard.
- 13:39Do the right thing.
- 13:40Everything should work." Absolutely not.
- 13:43Business also requires standards, accountabilities, numbers, decision, saying no, letting people go sometimes, changing roles, having conversations you rather avoid, stopping things that aren't working.
- 13:57You can have a huge heart and still run a terrible business.
- 14:01That's very uncomfortable, but also very true.
- 14:04And I had to learn that being kind and being an effective leader were not always going to look the same.
- 14:10Sometimes leadership was going to require me to disappoint somebody That's difficult when you are someone who wants people to feel good.
- 14:18Business does not care.
- 14:20Business says,"Is this working or isn't?" That's it.
- 14:23That's the question.
- 14:24Is this working?
- 14:25If it's not, then you gotta eliminate.
- 14:26And I think that is why I'm telling you this story now because people see the clinic now, they see me as the doctor, the business owner.
- 14:35I create programs, I manage team, I have a podcast, I have a life.
- 14:39They see the finished rooms.
- 14:41They don't see the version of me standing at the beginning thinking,"I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing." And I need you to understand that woman was not fearless.
- 14:51She was not unusually confident.
- 14:54She was not sitting on some secret entrepreneur gene.
- 14:57She had simply reached the point where staying the same hurt more than trying something unknown, and that's it.
- 15:06Sometimes that is where courage actually starts.
- 15:09Not,"I know this is going to work," but,"I know I can't keep doing this." Those are very different sentences, and maybe you're somewhere like that right now, not necessarily with the business.
- 15:20Maybe it's in your...
- 15:21it's your career.
- 15:21Maybe something in your marriage, your relationship, maybe the way you are living life, maybe the role everyone expect you to keep playing.
- 15:31And sometimes maybe something looks completely fine from the outside and you know internally,"I'm done." I'm not telling you to blow up your life tomorrow.
- 15:40Please don't email me,"Oh, Dr.
- 15:42Jente told me to quit my job." Please don't do that.
- 15:45All I'm saying is Pay attention when you keep feeling empty inside, something everyone else keeps calling successful, and that's information.
- 15:46It doesn't always mean leave, but it deserve investigation.
- 15:46I think the question that eventually changed my life was not can I successfully open and run a clinic,'cause I didn't know how to do that.
- 15:46But the real question was, If I keep living exactly like this for another five years, how would I feel about the person I become?
- 15:51That question scared me more because the risk wasn't only opening a business, the risk was not opening one.
- 15:58The risk was never finding out.
- 16:00The risk was staying comfortable enough to remain miserable, and that was no longer a risk I wanted to take.
- 16:08So yes, I got angry, I got fed up, I decided to open a clinic.
- 16:12I had no idea how to run it.
- 16:14My family had questions.
- 16:16I gave up security.
- 16:17I made mistakes.
- 16:18I learned everything the painful way.
- 16:21And the funniest part, I thought opening the business would give me freedom.
- 16:25It did, eventually.
- 16:26But first, it introduced me to myself, and some of what I met I did not like.
- 16:31Some of the mistakes, expensive.
- 16:33Some of the lessons, painful.
- 16:35Some seasons, there were days I wondered whether success was worth what it was asking from me.
- 16:41And that is where part two of this series answer that question.
- 16:45Because the clinic people see today is not the clinic I started with, and the life people see now they did not see what it cost to build it.
- 16:55They didn't see the night, the fear, the money, the mistakes, the people problem, the moments I seriously questioned whether I should keep going.
- 17:03They saw the doctor, the business owner, the nice office, the lifestyle, the travels.
- 17:07They did not see what was happening behind the door.
- 17:11And in the next episode, which is part two, I am going to tell you, because if I'm going to talk about business on this podcast, I'm not giving you the Instagram version, right?
- 17:21We're not gonna sugarcoat it.
- 17:22I'm giving you the part people usually wait until they are successful to pretend never happened.
- 17:28And maybe that's the biggest lesson from how this entire thing started.
- 17:32Sometimes the decision that looks reckless to everybody else is the first honest decision you've made in years.
- 17:39So stay tuned for part two That is fantastic.
- 17:43You completed another episode.
- 17:46So thank you for spending this time with me.
- 17:49If today's conversation gave you a new perspective, I hope you carry it with you into the rest of your week.
- 17:56If someone you love needs to hear this today, share this episode with them.
- 18:02Until next time, take good care of yourself.
- 18:05I'll meet you back here for our next conversation.