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Celeste’s Death Certificate Was Quietly Changed | Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez · True Crime with Gavin Fish

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You know, more information is coming out in the case of
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Celeste Rivas Hernandez, the Lake Elsinore girl who's who's
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dismembered and decomposing body was found in the trunk of singer
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David Burke's trunk. More more information is coming
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out and unfortunately not unfortunately I it's coming out
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from her family and the unfortunate part of this is that
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her family has to say anything at all.
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I just I don't know this is a terrible cold opening.
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Javi, I, I, we, we should have prepared better for this one.
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But it, it's really sad that the family has to make statements at
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all. But they are saying statements
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and you know what? There are questions that are
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legitimate questions. This was a 13 year old runaway.
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But was she a runaway? You know, she's seen back in
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Lake Elsinore several times. But my goodness, she was
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traveling to Texas, to London, you know, with the, with the
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famous and rich and powerful boyfriend that I use in air
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quotes, right. Because her mom is said to have
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said that Celeste has a boyfriend named David.
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So there are open questions. And there are a lot of us that
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are wondering what part in this, if any, does the family play?
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So, yeah, it's unfortunate, but they are having to answer some
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questions and they are doing. So I, I think it's a good thing
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that they are doing it. We also have an update, there
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was an update to her death certificate that I think is
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extremely telling when it comes to what the prosecution is
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planning on doing in their prosecution that we're going to
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update you on. We are going to be talking about
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several things about the family, you know, child neglect
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allegations, rumors that they were paid by Mr. Burke and other
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things. We're going to we're going to go
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over those things. Of course, we've got three
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questions tonight. We do have an update in the
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disappearance of Amy Hilliard and we've got some good news
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tonight. We're going to end our week on
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some good news, which I think is going to be delightful.
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So all that, a 10 gallon show fitting in a 5 gallon bucket,
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that's what we're going to do today.
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Stay with me. This video contains mature
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themes and discussions intended only for adult audiences.
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Viewer discretion is advised. Hello there my friend.
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Welcome back to another true crime conversation with me,
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Gavin Fish. Thank you very much for being
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here. So glad that you would choose to
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I just I, I love that part because let's let's just set the
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scene here a little bit. Actually, no, hold on, Gavin,
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back up. I want to do a couple of
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housekeeping things real quick. Number one, I want to thank you
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So thank you for that. You'll notice that I did put a
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goal on tonight's show for some supers in order to make this
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financially viable for me #2 silence #2 no #2 I am catching a
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flight heading West over the weekend to spend some time with
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my folks. We've got we've got an important
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little milestone that is happening back in California
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that I don't want to miss. And because in my family we have
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decided that 2026 is the year of the yes, I'm headed back there
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for that. I will not be live streaming
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Monday or Tuesday. On Tuesday I will be traveling
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and on Monday I will be occupied with with the event that I'm
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going to go to. So don't worry if you don't see
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me. It's not that I have disappeared
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or that anything's wrong. I am just going to be spending
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some time with my family and at a very important event that I'm
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really looking forward to. So wanted to let you know about
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that. OK, now let's go back to this
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little recap. Celeste Rivas, also known as
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Celeste Rivas Hernandez Salvadoran family, which is why
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she has the Rivas Hernandez thing going on there.
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She's Celeste Rivas is is her you know, Rivas is her father's
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name, Hernandez is her mother's. It's a beautiful thing that is
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done in Central and South America.
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I love that so much, but any who Celeste Rivas was 13 years old.
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She was from Lake Elsinore, CA, which is in the Inland Empire,
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Riverside County, southeast of Los Angeles by about 60-70
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miles. Something like that.
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She gets into the orbit of and starts communicating with a
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young man named David Anthony Burke, who goes by the stage
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name David, spelled D4. VD.
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Because we love Pascal and I think it's just so brilliant.
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We just call him Deformita around here.
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Deformita starts communicating at age 18.
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He he was 18. Celeste is 1111 years old.
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OK, they start communicating. They start spending time
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together. Celeste is described as a
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runaway, though I don't know that that's really what Celeste
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was. I mean, technically, I guess she
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was, but she seemed to run away, come back, run away, come back.
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Nevertheless, people who cared for her, who who knew where she
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was, many of them did knew exactly where she was.
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We're concerned because of course she is spending time with
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this adult man and she is 11/12/13, fourteen years old.
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At about age 13, according to prosecutors, she begins a sexual
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relationship. And I'm going to give the old
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air quotes there because it's not a relationship.
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It is not a relationship. Is a relationship between like a
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cheetah and a gazelle. Would we call that a
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relationship? No one is a predator and one is
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prey predator. Man, what I think if if he's
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praying on 111 year old girl, he's praying on 10, OK, he's
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like the cheetah. He is an opportunist.
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He is looking for little baby gazelles that he can pounce on
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And but but they they do have a sexual he is he is essaying her.
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That's what's happening. Prosecutors described it as a
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sexual relationship. It's not he's essaying her over
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a protracted period, at least a year starting, according to
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prosecutors, when she's 13 years old.
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He's now at this point 20 till she's 14 years old and he is 21,
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according to prosecutors. Apparently what was happening is
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they break up from their quote UN quote relationship.
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She says she wants more than just having sex all the time.
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And then she threatens to expose everything that they've been
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doing, which of course, would would mean serious consequences
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for Deformada and would derail everything that he was
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succeeding at, right in this music career, right, Starting as
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a kid who would just record on his phone to like, full on
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concert tours and sponsorships and the whole shebang.
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OK, So what prosecutors say happened is he lured her.
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I, I think I think that's the proper term, lured.
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But specifically, he sent an Uber to her house 70 miles away
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from his house, picks her up, brings her to the Hollywood
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Hills. She arrives at about 10:10 PM.
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By 10:30, nothing ever happens on her phone ever again.
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So between 10:10 and 10:30, prosecutors say he murders her
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and then just goes on with life. Man, I, I got concerts to do.
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I got interviews to get to do, to be, you know, I, I've got to
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be interviewed by the, by my adoring public.
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I got to go to launch parties. My album's dropping.
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I got to go to that. You know, he's just doing his
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thing. And then on September 8th, 2025,
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it is discovered that this little girl, her body
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dismembered, legs and arms removed, are discovered in 2
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bags in the front trunk of his car.
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And prosecutors say he was the last person to drive that car.
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And prosecutors say his friends were like going something smells
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dead at your house and you're caught, right?
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So like, people knew, man, people knew.
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Anyway, Deformada is finally arrested just just last month.
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Now that it's May, just about two weeks ago, he's finally
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arrested and charged with her murder with special
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circumstances having to do with killing a witness lying in wait.
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And he's also charged with her essay over the course of a year,
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right? So he's facing serious, serious
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charges, No bail for Mr. the Duh.
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And and that's where we are now. The main news to come out.
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Actually, before we get into that, let's see what you guys
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are saying over in the in the live chat.
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Let's see. First off, thank you very much
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for getting us started as I saw one come in.
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Caroline Taterville, let's see if I can bring this up.
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Caroline, thank you very much for that super sticker.
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And Marie, thank you for the Super chat.
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Marie says thank you for all you do.
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I'm listening from Meadowbrook, Alabama.
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Thank you very much. What do we have here?
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I just want to go through what you guys are saying here.
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San Jose is in the house. Thank you, Emmy, it's always
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good to see you. Let's see.
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Austin, TX is in the house. Sunny Suffolk VA's in the house.
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Good to see you. Elizabeth Mooney only has two
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days left with her grandson. I wouldn't want to leave either.
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Mooney, it's good to see you see if there's anything else,
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Jacksonville is in the house. Who else?
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Virginia. We've already said that.
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Let's see. We're old folk talking about the
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weather. That's funny.
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Let's see the wow. Anonymous Grogu joining us from
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the United Arab Emirates. Thank you very much for for
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joining us. See if there's anybody else
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checking in. Mooney's asking how the birthday
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celebration was last night. It was why do I have this guy's?
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I should put her picture up. It was it was fantastic and it
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was fun to spend a little bit with family.
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So cool guys. Wishing me safe travels.
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Thank you very much. I'm always excited to go and
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spend some time with the Figgity folks.
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Houston guys are awesome. Thank you very, very much.
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OK, let's let's get back to where we were.
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Here is the news of the day. This coming to us from ABC7 in
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Los Angeles, written by Abigail Vellas.
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Updated death certificate for Celeste Rivas Hernandez states
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it's unclear if she was pregnant.
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Now, why is this important? Well, you know what?
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Let's read it. Let's read it.
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Dateline, Los Angeles An updated death certificate for Celeste
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Rivas Hernandez, the alleged murder victim of singer David,
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states It is unclear whether the teen was pregnant in the year
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before she died. Prosecutors revealed this week
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the Celeste and de Forvida, whose real name is David Anthony
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Burke, exchanged text messages about sex, pregnancy and
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abortion while he was 18 and she was 13.
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Grosses me out and makes me pee IST Yeah it.
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It should make everybody feel the same way, authorities
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allege, continues the article. Deformada killed and dismembered
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her after she threatened to expose their relationship and
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ruin his music career. Deformada is expected back in
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court next month as the case continues.
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The RJ Dreiling, a criminal defense attorney and former
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deputy District Attorney, says additional charges could be
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coming if prosecutors are able to prove Celeste was pregnant.
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Quote, if she was about 7 to 8 weeks along, it doesn't matter
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if De Forvida knew she was pregnant or not.
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He still could potentially be facing a murder charge for that
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issue, he told Eyewitness News. I'm going to be getting into the
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statement, so we will hold off on that.
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But I did want to show you the the new death certificate.
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This is this is the death certificate.
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I'll zoom up on it too, so you guys can see it.
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This was released by TMZ. So thank you to TMZ for doing
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that for us. You will notice on page one, if
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I can zoom in on here, there are little boxes that they check,
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right? For example, was a biopsy
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performed? No.
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You know, was the death reported to coroner?
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Yes. What's the case number?
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Biopsy performed, no. Autopsy, yes.
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Used in determining cause, yes. And then here on right in here
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box 113 A, it says decedent pregnant in the last year and
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it's marked no. Now I wonder how I'm I'm not a
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doctor. I don't know.
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I wonder how a person can a a medical examiner, A coroner.
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It's a medical examiner down in LA can determine if a decedent
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has been pregnant in the last year if that decedent age 14 was
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inside the trunk of a car in a body bag for April, May, June,
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July, August, September, right. It's like it's like 4 1/2 months
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last week of April to through the 1st week of September.
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So they they've been in there and I'm sorry to say this
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decaying, right? Decomposing.
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I don't know how a medical examiner would say not pregnant
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in the last year when when there's so much decomp.
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I just don't know. But but I'm like, I'm coming to
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this. Honestly, I do not know how how
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a person could come to the conclusion yes or no.
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So it does strike me as odd that they would say, no, she wasn't
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pregnant in the last year. But then there is an update on
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page 2. There are, you know, here is a
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statement of Corrections. So instead of like redoing a
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death certificate and reissuing it, there is a statement of
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Corrections, right? And of course, they added that
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the cause of death from A107A was changed from deferred to
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multiple penetrating injuries 71-O7AT.
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If we look at these boxes, yeah, one O 7 is the A is the cause of
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death. It said the deferred and then I
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don't, I don't see the other one.
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But anyway, you know it was changed from blank to unknown.
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113 A, the one in question, right?
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The one in question goes from was she pregnant in the last
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year? It goes from no to unknown.
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So the question is, are prosecutors going to be able to
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prove that Celeste Rivas was pregnant in the previous year?
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And how could they prove it? I, I'm, I don't know and tell me
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in the comments, I would love to know what you guys think about
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that. But you know, in the ABC Seven
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article, it talks about the conversation in this people's
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brief, right? And I've got it highlighted
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right here. Text messages or text exchanges
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between the victim and defendant contain references to sex,
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pregnancy, abortion and use of Plan B emergency contraceptive.
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There are no explicit photographs documenting or
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corroborating. Oh, there are also explicit
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photographs documenting and corroborating their SA
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relationship. In November 2024, defendant and
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the victim broke up, although they continue to communicate and
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text messages suggest they also continue to have sexual
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relations. So is it, is it simply something
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that it's Celeste saying, hey, I'm pregnant?
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A picture of like a pregnancy test or something in a
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conversation of the forwarder going?
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Don't worry baby, I got you. I'll pay for the abortion, you
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know, that kind of stuff. Is it going to be something that
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simple or is there going to be forensic evidence?
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I feel like if it's if it went from no to unknown, I probably
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think there's not forensic evidence.
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If there is forensic evidence that's conclusive, it would go
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to yes, right? But I don't know.
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I don't know, I'm curious what you guys think before we move on
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to the next subject matter. Let me let's let's bring up
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Celeste again and just see what let's see Teresa, says Gavin.
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I remember in that home there is a language barrier and life.
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How her parents know is different.
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Maybe she wanted freedom and parents wanted more control over
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her life. Possibly.
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Sure, Especially, you know, hey, this is how I described.
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I, I, I will say our oldest, OK, it has happened to all of them.
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But when our oldest, who is our who is a daughter when she
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turned 13, like on her 13th birthday, I think it was before
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I was even awake. I think what happened was like
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aliens from outer space from some other Galaxy with
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technology so advanced that we just couldn't tell.
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They kidnapped her for some kind of science experience
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experiment, I think, and in her place dropped a perfect
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doppelganger whose only difference was she was horrible.
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I think that happened on her 13th birthday right before
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sunup, right before we started the day.
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And then and then exactly a year later on her 14th birthday,
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having concluded all of their experiments and having wiped her
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memory of it, they replaced our beautiful little girl and
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removed that horrible, horrible robot from our life.
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Like a, a 13 year old is a difficult, difficult child.
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Like I'm not making this up on the spot.
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I have told this to the hundreds of people when, when our
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daughters turn 13, they are just hard.
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They're just the worst. Now, our, our sons have not done
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it, but our daughters definitely have.
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So yeah, it's possible. I, I would imagine that if, if
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her parents were speaking, I understand they're from El
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Salvador. If they were speaking Castilian
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in the home, I'm sure that she understood it.
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I don't think that I'm sure that they could communicate.
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I have a couple brothers in law whose, whose families are from
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Central America. And no, that's not true.
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One is Puerto Rico. So that's, that's the Caribbean
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and part of the United States. But you know, they, they grew up
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in the states speaking perfect Americanized English, but don't
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have a language barrier with their parents.
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They, they speak beautifully in Spanish.
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I might say that that Caribbean way of speaking Spanish is is
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pretty darn beautiful. But anyway, but the whole part
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about how maybe there would there might be a cultural
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difference right where they're wanting to raise their children
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in a in a Salvadoran way and the children are experiencing
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America and there is a clash of cultures.
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That's possible. Sure.
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ABS 100%, 100%. And add into that that age 13 is
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the worst, as I have previously illustrated.
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Maybe she did. Maybe she just wanted freedom,
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what she thought was freedom. And her parents wanted control,
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which they thought was perfectly reasonable because you are a
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child, right? Yeah, Autumn, our fearless lead
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moderator. I feel with him being famous,
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it's an abuse of power type of thing.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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In in fact, it is the exact same thing.
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Autumn, I I think that you'll agree with me as this case.
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Do you guys remember this case? This guy is a guy named Ben
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Fields. He was a deputy sheriff and the
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guy that was in charge of GPS monitoring of women in the jail
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in Letcher County, Kentucky. And he was abusing his power
27:23
over female inmates in the jail, which ultimately led to the
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killing of Judge Kevin Mullins, right?
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It's the same kind of thing. Not only did deform Vida, not
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only was he a grown man and she is a, she's a child, right?
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But he also has that, that clout, right, being that fame.
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So he is, so he has power over her.
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There's a huge power imbalance there.
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And, and, and it's multifaceted, right?
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He is a vulture. Buitre, Buitre, Buitre.
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That is a word that I have never used in Spanish, but now that I
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know it. Buitre very cool.
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Let's see. Super sticker from Sandra.
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Thank you very much for that very generous super sticker.
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Thank you for that. Let's see, I just refreshified
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here. Let's bring Celeste back up this
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funny diddly squat. Hello Chat and Gavin.
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I'm in the middle of moving and I've missed this stream.
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I've got my electronics hooked up now, blow dryer.
28:52
Gavin, fish and food. Those are my priorities.
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Thank you very much. Good to see you Diddly.
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Danny from York, West Yorkshire. Thank you for being here,
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Clarinet Girl says a pathologist can examine endometrial tissue
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to determine possible pregnancy. Yeah.
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I I wonder if it would be left, though.
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You know what I mean? I wonder if it would still be
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there. And I don't know, but you might
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be an expert. I I definitely am not.
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Right. Thank you for that, Elizabeth
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says. I think it's probably
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circumstantial evidence, not forensic.
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I think you're probably right that that's my that's my gut
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feeling. Analytical one saying your
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daughter had a temporary case of tinnitus.
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Yeah, Yeah. You know what?
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And this is a this definitely, this definitely is a tangent.
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Come on. Yeah.
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Remember I told you that when our kids turned 14, we would
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take them, I would take them on a business trip wherever I was
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going, wherever I was going. The year that they turned 14,
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they got to choose where they were going.
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They all, they all chose Europe. But the the year leading up to
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her turning 14, I was just like, I do not want to take this child
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anywhere because I will be tempted to just leave that
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child. It's such a hard time with that
30:33
girl. My goodness.
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Fortunately, we were practiced with girl #2 so funny.
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Lee says hi from the Athens, from the South.
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Glad that glad you're here. Thank you very much for being
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here. Clarinet girl saying Celeste's
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family has hired an attorney. Indeed they have.
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And that is a very good Segway. Thank you for that Segway.
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We get the right buttons up and let's go back over to do do, do
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do Acrobat. But let me let me find the right
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one. I want to make sure that I'm
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doing this in the right order. Maybe what I can do is I can go
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back to this. I'm going to go back to the
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first one that that we looked at.
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OK, this saying the new statement from Celeste family
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was released. OK.
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The attorney for the teens family shared a new statement
31:31
Thursday. This would be yesterday
31:33
addressing the new developments. Quote, Last night, I had the
31:37
heartbreaking responsibility of informing the Rivas Hernandez
31:41
family of the horrifying allegations submitted in court
31:45
Wednesday that David Anthony Burke allegedly stabbed Celeste.
31:50
Quote, stood by while she bled close quote, to death, used a
31:55
chainsaw to cut off her limbs and bought a burn cage with the
31:59
plan to incinerate the evidence. As a wrongful death attorney, my
32:03
sole focus is on love. This was the most difficult
32:06
thing I've had to do in 37 years as a lawyer.
32:15
I originally encouraged the Rivas Hernandez family to speak
32:18
publicly throughout the criminal process.
32:21
They agreed with the full support of the Los Angeles
32:24
County District Attorney Nathan Hawkman.
32:26
However, in light of the gruesome details emerging almost
32:30
daily, the family has decided not to make any statements now
32:33
or in the future. There are no words to express
32:37
the indescribable pain the family is experiencing right
32:39
now. They still have bills to pay and
32:41
jobs they go to every day. You know that's something we
32:44
don't consider, or at least I don't.
32:47
Life still has to go on, right? Like, they still have bills.
32:51
They still got to live. They got to put food on the
32:53
table. All they want is time to grieve
32:57
and heal. Please grant the Rivas Hernandez
33:00
family grace and compassion. So, yeah.
33:06
And they've decided not to speak now or in the future.
33:11
But you know what? I respect their right to change
33:14
their mind too, right? They, they might change their
33:17
mind and, and good on them if they do also good on them if
33:21
they don't. They're the ones that are going
33:25
through this and nobody else. Therefore, we need to be
33:29
respectful of their, their decisions.
33:34
And of course, I love, you know, please grant them grace and
33:38
compassion. That's what we want to do here.
33:41
We want to temper our, our conversation, our speculation
33:47
with humanity and with compassion, right.
33:52
OK, here's another article I wanted to bring to you because
33:57
this has been kind of swirling. Celeste Rivas's parents
34:00
investigated, cleared over child neglect allegations Celeste
34:06
Rivas's parents were investigated over allegations of
34:10
child neglect and abuse about a year before De Forvida allegedly
34:14
murdered the 14 year old runaway, but law enforcement
34:17
found no wrongdoing, TMZ has learned when Celeste went
34:21
missing from her family home in Lake Elsinore, CA, the Riverside
34:25
County Sheriff's Office tells us it opened an investigation that
34:28
year on April 27th. That was a couple weeks after
34:33
Celeste was reported missing for the second time.
34:37
It's unknown who called to complain, but the Riverside
34:41
County Sheriff's Department tells TMZ the person, quote,
34:44
expressed concern about a juvenile who had run away. close
34:48
quote. We're told deputies responded
34:51
and interviewed everyone who was at Celeste's home, but the
34:54
investigation found no evidence of child neglect.
34:57
Thing is, RCSD says deputies were unable to interview
35:01
Celeste, who quote, had not been located and close quote, and
35:06
therefore quote were unable to determine if a crime had
35:08
occurred. close quote Celeste's family reported her missing in
35:13
February and April 2024. And according to prosecutors,
35:17
Riverside County deputies called De Forvida on February 17th
35:21
after finding his number in Celeste's phone records and he
35:24
claimed he had last spoken to her on February 13th or 14th,
35:28
but also told deputies he didn't know she was a minor or missing.
35:33
Uh huh. Uh huh.
35:36
Yeah, uh huh. I mean, never mind that you sent
35:46
you, you like, drove your fancy car to Lake Elsinore, parked it.
35:53
And there's photographs of there are photographs of you
35:58
delivering a bag of money, a, a bag with money in it to someone.
36:04
And of course, prosecutors saying he paid $1000 to a
36:09
classmate to give her a phone that he had bought because hers
36:13
had been taken away. This is dude, this is predation
36:21
at its worst, right? OK.
36:25
A little over a year after her parents were investigated and
36:28
cleared for child neglect, prosecutors say de Forvida
36:32
ordered Celeste and Uber to drive her from Lake Elsinore to
36:37
his home in the Hollywood Hills on April 23rd, 2025, and when
36:40
she arrived at his home, he killed her.
36:44
Prosecutors claim De Forvida and Celeste first met in 2022 when
36:48
she was 11 years old, and they allege they began a sexual
36:51
relationship, an SA relationship, in November 2023
36:57
when he was 18 and she was 13. So, yeah, any any rumors that
37:08
are kind of swirling around that her parents may have been guilty
37:14
of some sort of neglect or abuse, Apparently those are
37:20
unfounded. Thank you very much to shine on
37:24
you crazy Diamond. When I was 16, she says, I fell
37:29
into my teacher's trap because I was just too naive.
37:32
My parents never found out what happened to me.
37:35
I didn't want to burden them with it.
37:37
And I was ashamed. Yeah.
37:39
You know, I've had recent conversations with my parents as
37:46
a 50 year old man where and, and I'm nothing like this claim.
37:51
I'm I'm not claiming anything like this happened to me.
37:53
I'm so sorry for you, you crazy diamond.
37:56
You shine on girl, you know, but at age 50, I've had a
38:05
conversation with, with my parents about, you know,
38:08
basically just coming clean on some of the minor laws that I
38:13
broke as a teenager. And, and in those conversations
38:21
with my parents, I have, I have like come to the realization
38:25
just how sad it is that there were things in my life that I
38:32
just couldn't share with my parents.
38:34
They were just, they were just dumb things, right?
38:38
You know, things that I was doing, things that I was
38:40
feeling, things that I thought nobody understood but me.
38:45
I'm the only person on earth who's ever gone through anything
38:47
remotely anything close to this. Of course I was in, I was a dill
38:53
hole. It's it's the definition of a
38:55
teenager, right? You're an idiot.
38:57
I was I and so far all of our children have been, I think it's
39:02
everybody. And you just feel like you can't
39:06
talk to your parents about that. And, and look, you, you were,
39:10
you were trying to protect them as a 16 year old.
39:14
And it's, yeah, it's just so well, and that's why that's one
39:23
of the reasons why our children are so precious and why there
39:25
are laws that protect them. Right?
39:28
A 13 year old can't handle this. Guys.
39:32
You, you know it. I know it.
39:34
We all know it a 13 year old cannot handle what was happening
39:40
happening to her by that horrible alleged predator.
39:45
Thank you very much for the Super chat and thank you for
39:47
sharing that with us Shine on you crazy diamond Allison, thank
39:54
you very much for your super chat and it is my pleasure to
39:58
continue to cover this case. Let's.
40:03
Let's see if there's anything else you guys wanted me to see
40:06
that I may have missed. Montana Sunshine.
40:13
Gavin, look this up. Microchimerism.
40:17
Let me, let me. I don't know what that is.
40:23
Let's see what it is. Microchimerism is the presence
40:30
of a small number of cells in an individual that originated from
40:33
a genetically distinct person, most commonly occurring via bi
40:39
directional trafficking between a mother and a fetus during
40:42
pregnancy. These persistent foreign cells,
40:46
which can remain for decades, act as stem cells that can
40:50
repair tissue but are also associated with both triggering
40:53
autoimmune diseases and aiding immune.
40:55
OK, So the idea being that if she were pregnant that this
41:01
small number of cells could be in her body and could be a
41:05
forensic direct piece of evidence that she was pregnant.
41:11
That's what you're saying? That's what I'm reading out of
41:14
this, right. So I guess my question, and it's
41:20
not to you, it's just my, my question in general is if they
41:24
found that, why put unknown? You know, why put unknown?
41:34
Maybe they just maybe there are tests going on, you know, just
41:38
tons of different labs doing different things and, and maybe
41:44
the results haven't come back yet.
41:46
Maybe there's just a very difficult, it's difficult to to
41:50
detect, especially in a victim who decomposed over the course
41:55
of four and a half months. Maybe.
41:57
But Montana Sunshine, I mean, that's a that is that is a very
42:01
good comment And thank you very much for that little education.
42:05
That was awesome. Yeah, Southern Blue Angel
42:11
speaking as once as a once horrible 13 year old daughter.
42:17
I remember thinking I was grown and knew enough to make my own
42:20
decisions at that age. In my eyes, my parents were dumb
42:22
not knowing that boy did I learn.
42:25
Yeah. And you are one of millions who
42:29
have learned that lesson, right? We there's only one way to learn
42:32
that lesson and it's it's through experience.
42:37
Very, very good comment. Clarinet girl.
42:42
Gavin, have you seen the Steve Fisher video of another person
42:45
driving to forbid a car with window partially rolled down?
42:49
No, I have not, clarinet girl, but I will check that out.
42:56
And then Montana Sunshine said yes, even in a decomposed body.
42:59
So the microchimerism, is that what it's called microchimerism
43:06
might be detectable. OK, a 93, says Gavin.
43:14
I hope she wasn't raised in an abusive or neglectful home and
43:18
she was just running towards another abusive person, which is
43:21
not uncommon. Yeah, me too.
43:27
Me too. OK, I'm going to move on to the
43:32
next thing that I prepared to show you guys.
43:37
It also is from TMZ. And by the way, I try to be
43:41
really careful about reporting stuff from TMZI mean it is a
43:45
gossip website. However, the things that the
43:48
LAPD called them out on saying, oh, these you guys are crazy.
43:53
You know, we never said anything like that.
43:55
I don't know where that came from.
43:57
Turned out to be true, turned out to be accurate.
44:00
Specifically the Santa Barbara trip, right?
44:03
So they're doing good reporting, at least so far.
44:09
So, so I feel I'm feeling comfortable reporting what they
44:14
are reporting. OK, this was today from TMZ
44:23
staff headline reads Celeste Rivas's father denies ever
44:28
meeting to Forvida, rejects payment rumors.
44:31
We have to be very careful with rumors, guys.
44:34
I mean, it's perfectly natural to say, to ask oneself, I wonder
44:38
if they are, if they got paid off by David, is this a
44:41
trafficking thing? I think that is a reasonable
44:44
thing to ask. But, you know, if we read
44:49
something like that, read a question like that on social
44:51
media where somebody's saying, I wonder if there's some
44:54
trafficking, that is not a green light to just go, oh, there was
44:58
trafficking going on. And I, I know I'm like preaching
45:00
to the choir here, right? We don't do that on this
45:03
channel. You guys don't do that.
45:04
And I don't do that. But let's continue to refrain,
45:09
shall we? The article reads.
45:12
Celeste Rivas's father says he's never even met Deformida, much
45:16
less received any money from him.
45:19
I don't know why TMZ keeps doing these ellipses.
45:22
It's the weirdest thing, like all of their articles lately
45:28
have had, that they're annoying and distracting.
45:30
But anyway, Celeste Rivas's father says he's never even met
45:34
Deformita, much less received any money from him.
45:37
Despite rumors floating around the family's hometown that the
45:41
singer was giving funds to the Rivas family, there's been
45:44
online speculation, including on Reddit and Facebook, springing
45:48
up around Lake Elsinore, CA, located about two hours
45:52
southeast of LA, that the disgraced singer and murder
45:55
suspect gave money to the family.
45:58
Jesus Rivas tells TMZ through his attorney Patrick Steinfeld.
46:02
Quote. I never had any contact with
46:04
this guy and we haven't received any money from him or anyone in
46:07
the family. Close quote As we reported, says
46:11
TMZ, the family was so devastated and exhausted after
46:15
Deforvida's first court appearance in the murder case
46:18
last week, they decided not to talk to the PD, to the public or
46:22
the media. Now they're dealing with gossip
46:25
about supposedly being paid off, and then it goes on and talks
46:30
about the case. When we reached out to De
46:36
Forvida's parents for comment, their attorney tells TMZ, based
46:39
on the advice of counsel, they have no comment at this time
46:41
other than they fully support. Oh, sorry.
46:45
Oh, this is De Forvida's parents.
46:48
OK. When TMZ reached out to De
46:51
Forvida's parents for comment, their attorney told them based
46:54
on the advice of counsel, they have no comment at this time
46:57
other than they fully support their son.
47:00
I listen, we talked about this during the Madeline Soto stuff,
47:07
right? But say we're in a different
47:12
dimension in the multiverse. And I, Kimberly and I have a son
47:18
that is Stephen Sterns, and we find out what he did to little
47:26
Maddie Soto. Would we continue to support
47:30
him? No.
47:33
Would we continue to love him? I think so.
47:36
Yes. Yes.
47:38
But support him. I mean, I'd visit him.
47:44
I'd express my love to him. I would try to understand him.
47:49
I know that I never would. But support, like support?
47:54
No. No.
47:56
And it makes me wonder, like I watched a documentary a few
48:03
years ago about Ted Bundy and how at the end of his life,
48:11
well, as he was being prosecuted in Florida, he threw this weird
48:19
open court thing, married one of his groupies woman, totally fell
48:26
in love with him and was completely convinced that that
48:32
he was innocent. Completely convinced.
48:34
How could he possibly like he was so good at convincing
48:37
people. And she was convinced that Ted
48:40
Bundy was not the murderous scoundrel serial killer that he
48:45
was. They even had a daughter
48:48
together right from prison, got conjugal visits, the whole
48:52
shebang. Right.
48:53
And near the end of his life, he is he's facing execution and he
49:01
asks his wife, should I tell him where the bodies are?
49:07
And that was the first time the wife was like, wait a minute,
49:10
what you're telling me that you did this right?
49:15
And it makes me wonder, reading this, are the parents going,
49:22
there's no way our little boy did this.
49:25
No way our little boy author of romantic homicide, you know,
49:32
split personality with Itani or Itani, whatever it was, there's
49:37
no way our little boy could do that.
49:39
He's a such a cute little boy. Is it is it that are are they
49:45
just lying to themselves? And I should say everything that
49:51
has been said that David did is an allegation has been proven.
49:56
Yet these are only allegations. But boy, it looks like the
50:03
prosecution has evidence piling up.
50:08
So yeah, based on the advice of counsel, they have no comment at
50:12
the time other than they fully support their son.
50:14
Please don't fully support your son.
50:16
If he is a SA Ng a child SA Ng murderer, please don't fully
50:26
support him. Continue to love him, visit him
50:28
in jail, try to understand him. Don't fully support him.
50:34
Come on, come on. OK, next one that I wanted to
50:44
bring you is from the LA Times. This written by Richard Winton
50:48
and James Quealy came out today. Teen victims, family shocked by
50:55
gruesome details revealed in court filing.
50:58
And this is another. Yeah, look at this, this undated
51:02
photo showing Celeste Rivas Hernandez, second from right,
51:08
right here, right there. Looks like a little like a
51:15
little springtime Easter thing. They have a new grandbaby,
51:18
maybe, I don't know, storable Matthew Rivas.
51:26
Her brother is here. The baby are not.
51:30
I don't know how they are. OK.
51:32
The family of the teenage girl who was killed and dismembered
51:35
allegedly by rising musician to Florida said they were shocked
51:39
and horrified by the details revealed in court this week,
51:42
according to a statement released by the family attorney.
51:45
Which we. I think that's the same
51:48
statement. Yeah.
51:54
There are no words to express the indescribable pain the
51:57
family is experiencing right now.
52:00
They still have bills to pay in jobs that they go to everyday.
52:03
All they want is time to grieve and heal.
52:05
OK. So yeah, this is the same same
52:09
one. OK, we don't need to do that.
52:12
Let's before we turn to three questions, let's just see what
52:18
you guys are saying over in the live chat.
52:20
Make sure I don't miss out on anything over there, OK?
52:27
Nati says it's amazing that a lot of people here are fixated
52:33
on the parents potentially receiving money when there's no
52:35
evidence of that, just rumors. Yeah.
52:37
We we need to try not to not to trade in rumors.
52:45
Right. Let me try not to be those
52:47
people scrolling on down. Yeah.
52:58
Vlad Riot 510 deformed. His family knew about Celeste.
53:02
Yeah. I mean, it's in the filing.
53:04
He flew her to Texas. This is a good point in light of
53:10
what I was just saying. Yeah, this is a very good point.
53:12
Great comment. Vlad Riot, 510, he flew her to
53:19
Texas to meet the family. And that is one of those things
53:22
where, OK, you see this girl, you see this girl with your with
53:28
your son. The successful recording artist
53:32
whose star's on the rise. He's living in a $20,000 a month
53:36
mansion in the Hollywood Hills. He's got agents, he's got all of
53:40
these many succubi all around him just slurping up all of the
53:46
leftovers that splash out of his mouth.
53:52
And you say, oh, it's so nice to meet you, little girl.
53:58
Come on, it's just a little one. And then Valerie Doll says you
54:07
can choose to still love the child while utterly despising
54:10
their actions or crimes. It's a tough place to be as a
54:12
family member. Indeed, indeed.
54:15
I completely agree with you. I think I've shared before, I
54:19
won't, I won't get into details, but one of the things that I,
54:23
one of the things for which I am grateful is that I was born into
54:29
a family with, with like outstanding high quality people
54:33
as my parents like super high quality, right?
54:38
The best. And like, I, I think, I think
54:44
that's an objective statement. I think there are enough people
54:48
in this world who believe it that it's not my own
54:50
subjectivity. My, my parents are the best,
54:53
right? A close friend of my dad's
54:59
committed the most egregious, the most disgusting, the most
55:05
vile of crimes, and in my opinion, the worst crime that
55:09
one can commit. And until he ended his life at
55:20
San Quentin, my dad was his only friend who visited him and
55:28
communicated with him, made sure that he had commissary and and
55:34
it was, it was hard for a person a little less.
55:43
I'm talking about me for a person, me being less celestial,
55:50
less heavenly than my parents. Just like I can't believe that
55:54
you're doing that. I can't believe it, but he was
56:00
able to love his friend in spite of his horrible crimes.
56:05
And actually, that's something that I think we should all
56:08
aspire to, right? We should all aspire to that.
56:14
A 93. They support him or don't
56:16
believe he did all this. That is the question.
56:18
Yeah. That's my question as well.
56:21
My question as well, let's see Miss Bree, when I was 15, my
56:31
boyfriend was 18 and we are still together.
56:36
Yeah. And there are what are called
56:39
Romeo and Juliet laws. For example, say 17 year old and
56:45
a 15 year old are dating. We've got a, we've got a junior
56:48
in high school and a freshman in high school and they are dating,
56:51
right? And that, that or let's say
56:56
senior and sophomore, whatever it is, they're two years apart.
57:00
But parents don't approve and they wait until that senior
57:06
turns 18 and then they press charges.
57:08
And that, that 18 year old man is then a convicted PDF file,
57:14
right? There are laws that protect,
57:18
they're called Romeo and Juliet laws who protect people from
57:26
from, from that kind of situation.
57:29
But that's not what's happening here.
57:30
OK? This is 13 and 18, not no, it's
57:37
13 and 20. It's 13 and 20, isn't it?
57:43
Or 13 and 1814 and 19. It's no, no, a Romeo and Juliet
57:50
law would not protect that. It's like, OK, so a a person who
57:56
has graduated high school is supposedly in a relationship
58:01
with a middle schooler. No, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope.
58:07
There's a line that is a cross it.
58:14
Anyway, my thoughts, my thoughts.
58:16
I am glad that you were still together with your boyfriend.
58:22
Jess Ducky says. They did tell Celeste family any
58:25
of this, or did they tell Celeste family any of this
58:27
before the court hearing? Is that normal?
58:31
Typically in a district attorney's office, there is a
58:35
victims coordinator. Sometimes, like in Los Angeles,
58:40
I think there is a team of coordinators and that person's
58:45
job, it, that job is such a difficult job.
58:49
It's like a social worker, right?
58:52
The absolute worst thing has happened to these people and the
58:55
district's attorney is having to do very ugly, very public things
59:00
like filing something like that. They're typically would be a, a
59:09
coordinator, a, a witness advocate in the office, talking
59:15
with the family, talking with the family's attorney, assuming
59:22
that the family wants to talk to them, right?
59:24
So my guess is Mr. Hochman's office is a professional office
59:29
where those services are available.
59:32
But I don't know, that's just my guess, right?
59:36
But the way that the attorney said it in the statement, it
59:42
sounded like it was the attorney's responsibility to
59:45
talk to his clients about the gruesome details of Celeste's
59:48
death. So maybe, maybe the family said,
59:54
you know what, just just go through the attorney.
59:56
We've got, we've got, we've got to grieve over here.
1:00:01
That's possible, too. Great comment, Ducky.
1:00:03
Thank you as always, Sir. Kelina Gavin Not sure why the
1:00:12
Atami split personality storyline has been circling this
1:00:16
much. Dissociative identity disorder
1:00:19
is a trauma disorder and definitely not like the movie
1:00:22
split, right? I think it's been circling
1:00:26
because of because of him talking about that.
1:00:33
And it's just, it's an interesting thing.
1:00:37
It's just an interesting thing, especially in light of strategic
1:00:41
eyes and his team's, you know, uncovery, uncovery uncovering or
1:00:51
their discovery of the MPD detective manga, that that's
1:00:56
probably, that's probably all I, I don't think that there's an
1:00:59
actual clinical split personality or, you know,
1:01:04
identity disorder. Yeah, Debbie, thank you very
1:01:11
much for for that. Appreciate, appreciate that
1:01:16
comment. OK, guys, that's all I have to
1:01:20
share with you as far as an update on Celeste's case.
1:01:24
We will keep on this again, once again, Monday and Tuesday, I
1:01:28
won't be live streaming, but I will.
1:01:30
I will keep you guys updated as much as I can.
1:01:33
But before we go, we still have other things to talk about like
1:01:39
this. It's three questions with Gavin
1:01:42
Fish, Okie Dokie. In this segment, guys, as you
1:01:49
know, I answer three of your questions that you sent to me at
1:01:53
threequestions@gavinfish.com. Three questions at gavinfish.com
1:01:57
spelled out THREEQUESTIONS at gavinfish.com.
1:02:03
Yes, it's true. It's true.
1:02:05
I won the 4th grade spelling bee.
1:02:07
I did. I, I wanted the last two words
1:02:11
were thorough and conscientious and, and I, I mean, I was hooked
1:02:17
on phonics back then. I could spell with the best of
1:02:19
them. I like things spelled out THREE
1:02:23
questions at gavinfish.com. First question from Diane G
1:02:29
we're we're getting to the end of Diane G's questions.
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By the way, Diane asks how do you handle a situation when you
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have to give someone difficult feedback lovingly and in a
1:02:44
spirit of kindness? I personally love good feedback
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and don't don't I? I love difficult feedback.
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I like conversations where like actually the the conversation
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the other day about me using the term young woman to refer to
1:03:03
Celeste that that in in the culture that that I am in my
1:03:10
wife and I talked about this is showing respect to a child.
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Hello there, young woman. You know, I'm, I would say that
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to a four year old and, and it came across to many people as me
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saying that that Celeste was indeed a young woman, like
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right. And, and that is not anything
1:03:32
that I wanted to communicate. I don't mind that kind of
1:03:36
feedback. In fact, I love it, especially
1:03:40
if it is well, probably exclusively when it is done in a
1:03:44
spirit of kindness. That's it.
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Having hard conversations with people is a, is a beautifully
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connecting thing. It really is.
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Great question. Question #2 this is from Krista.
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This one's a longer one. Mental health is such a huge
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issue in many true crime cases indeed, and honestly in many
1:04:09
people's lives in general, indeed.
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Do you think we as a, as a society do enough to understand
1:04:16
and care for our fellow humans or even ourselves when it comes
1:04:19
to mental health issues, Krista? I think that we're doing better.
1:04:24
Do you guys know who Patrick Stewart is?
1:04:26
Sir Patrick Stewart, the amazing actor who brought us
1:04:32
unforgettable performances of Jean Luc Picard and Professor
1:04:38
Xavier among so many other things, including some amazing
1:04:44
Shakespeare work. Any who his dad was, what they
1:04:55
referred to in that time as shell shocked, what we refer to
1:05:02
now as someone having post traumatic stress disorder and
1:05:07
was I've watched several interviews with Sir Patrick
1:05:12
Stewart about his father and he offers a lot of grace to his
1:05:18
father. But I, I, I guess the reason
1:05:24
that I bring that up is think of how far we've come from when
1:05:31
somebody would experience so much trauma like in war, and
1:05:36
then they'd come back affected and not themselves ever again.
1:05:42
And they would just be dismissed as some like shell shocked loony
1:05:47
right to where we are now where we work to treat mental health
1:05:53
issues like post traumatic stress.
1:05:56
So I think we've come a long way.
1:05:59
I think that it's become less of a taboo to speak about things
1:06:02
like, you know, when even when I was a kid, which doesn't seem
1:06:06
all that long ago, though I am a 50 year old dude, The idea that
1:06:11
somebody was in therapy for something like they had a
1:06:14
therapist was like, oh, OK, you're crazy obviously.
1:06:19
And now, you know, I, I encourage people to go to
1:06:22
therapy. It feels feels good to talk to
1:06:25
someone, right? I have a friend who confided in
1:06:30
me, I won't share any details on this, but basically just was
1:06:33
like, you know, before I talk to my partner, it's good to have
1:06:38
somebody to talk through what I want to talk to my partner about
1:06:42
first, you know, and that's a beautiful thing.
1:06:46
So do we do enough? Probably not, but we're but
1:06:52
we're headed the trend is in the right direction.
1:06:56
Good question, Krista, thank you.
1:06:58
And Kelly. Oh, Kelly, what food is the
1:07:02
hardest for you to resist? I'm feeling especially resistant
1:07:11
these days. What is especially hard for me
1:07:18
to resist, I would say my favorite style of food is I
1:07:23
really love Chinese food. Specifically, I love Cantonese
1:07:26
food, specifically Cantonese food that does not include
1:07:30
seafood. I like, I, I like Chinese food a
1:07:38
lot. And it, you know, it's really
1:07:40
funny is when I was working for LH Labs, the founder of the
1:07:45
company, the Co founder of the company was Taiwanese.
1:07:49
And he, we, we would try, I travelled way more than he did.
1:07:54
I travelled on his behalf. But when we would travel
1:07:56
together, he would get sick of it.
1:07:59
We'd be like in wherever, like, I don't know, Switzerland.
1:08:03
And I'd be on the lookout for a Chinese restaurant.
1:08:05
He's like, can can we try Swiss food?
1:08:09
Swiss. No, let's get some Chinese food,
1:08:12
Right, Right. I, I love Chinese food.
1:08:16
I haven't had it in quite a while, like quite a while.
1:08:25
That might be something that I do while I'm in California.
1:08:28
I, I like, I like all sorts of like last time I was in
1:08:32
California, I was sure to do Vietnamese.
1:08:35
I'm sure to do Thai. I did, I did Japanese.
1:08:39
I'm not a sushi lover, but I do like teriyaki and stuff like
1:08:45
that. So yeah, I would say Chinese
1:08:47
food is the hardest for me to resist, though.
1:08:49
These days. I'm a food resistor.
1:08:51
I just, it's fuel for me. And I do my best to eat healthy.
1:09:00
I eat fewer calories than I burn and consequently have been
1:09:05
losing lots and lots of weight. Thank you very much for those
1:09:08
questions. Now I love it when you guys
1:09:11
answer questions, the questions in the in the live chat.
1:09:14
So please give me your comments. And while you're typing those
1:09:19
things in, let's check out a couple of headlines in true
1:09:21
crime. Here we go, headlines.
1:09:30
Actually I've only got 1 headline for you tonight this
1:09:33
coming to us from KRCRTV written by Caleb Frye this is in the Amy
1:09:41
Hilliard case let's see Siskiyou County Sheriff's Office.
1:09:47
Looking for info on Oakland woman missing since March 25th
1:09:51
Siskiyou County Dateline, N State, California Siskiyou
1:09:56
County Sheriff's Office officials are asking the public
1:09:59
to be on the lookout for an Oakland woman who has been
1:10:02
reported missing and may be in the Mount Shasta or Weed area.
1:10:07
Let me bring up Google Maps just for a second.
1:10:13
We'll do a little map time Mount Shasta, CA and I'll show you
1:10:24
where we are. This is way up in the north
1:10:29
state nearing the border. This is the border with Oregon
1:10:32
right here. Border of Nevada right here,
1:10:35
Weed and the Mount Shasta area is right here on the I-5.
1:10:42
Oakland is halfway down the state here in the Bay Area, so
1:10:47
we are far, far away. Mount Shasta, by the way, is a
1:10:51
place that as a child we would do Boy Scout camps at to climb
1:10:57
Mount Shasta. And sadly, I say sarcastically,
1:11:03
I never went on one of those Who wants to hike to the top of a
1:11:06
mountain? Guys, who does that?
1:11:07
A lot of people I love, but not me.
1:11:11
According to the Sheriff's Office, Amy Hilliard is a 52
1:11:14
year old woman who is 5 foot 4, weighs 120 lbs, has blonde hair
1:11:19
and Hazel eyes. She's considered at risk due to
1:11:21
a medical condition. She is last seen in Oakland at
1:11:26
about 2:00 PM March 25th, actually we know is about 4:30,
1:11:31
wearing a white shirt, light colored jeans.
1:11:33
There's now a $25,000 reward for information that leads to her
1:11:37
return. Anyone with information about
1:11:39
her whereabouts is asked to contact the Oakland Police
1:11:41
Department's Missing Persons Unit AT510233641 and refer to
1:11:49
the case #26-013029. So she might be all the way up
1:11:56
in the North state, way, way, way up there.
1:12:00
And I imagine that there has been a tip.
1:12:03
There's a reason why people are looking in the Mount Shasta and
1:12:06
Weed area. And boy, do I hope that she is
1:12:12
found. And that is the last piece of
1:12:15
true crime headlines. But we want to end on a good
1:12:19
note, don't we? We want to end on a good note O
1:12:23
Wanda's going to give us a little bit of music to to change
1:12:26
to to just change the atmosphere a little bit.
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OK Wanda. So good.
1:12:50
Let's, let's bring that way down.
1:12:54
Let's bring it way down. Wanda will keep playing that a
1:12:58
little bit. Guys from the Good News Network.
1:13:03
Thank you. Wanda from the Good News
1:13:05
Network. Norway's largest ever trove of
1:13:09
Viking Age coins is historic Find by Metal Detectors brought
1:13:15
to us on the Good News Network by Andy Corbley.
1:13:17
Look at that, Look at that amazing coin.
1:13:22
More than 3150 medieval coins dating back to the Viking Age
1:13:28
were found in a field in Norway, the largest such discovery in
1:13:32
the country's history. The search is ongoing and
1:13:37
archaeologists expect there to be more in the vicinity.
1:13:41
Discovered in a field near the village of Arena and Inland
1:13:46
County, they offer a rare insight into the economy, the
1:13:50
long distance connections and the flow of silver in Norway
1:13:53
during a period marked by major political change.
1:13:57
A statement from Inland county municipality Red.
1:14:01
While coin hoards and the metal detecting community who find
1:14:05
them aren't rare in England, this kind of thing rarely
1:14:08
happens in Norway, despite it being one of the birth places of
1:14:11
the Viking Age. Just once before has a coin
1:14:15
hoard. Basically a bank account.
1:14:17
For a time without banks exceeded 3000 units in Norway,
1:14:21
and only four times has one been found, with 1000 or more dating
1:14:26
from the late 10th and early 11th centuries.
1:14:29
They were mostly minted in England and Germany, although
1:14:32
some were minted in Norway and Denmark.
1:14:34
The reliefs point to minting during the reigns of the
1:14:37
powerful Viking king Harold Hadrata, as well as Elfel Red,
1:14:43
the Second of England and Nutt the Great.
1:14:48
I don't know how to say that. Newt.
1:14:50
Let's say Newt Newt the great. That's a silent see.
1:14:53
I can tell it's Newt the Great. During Harold's reign.
1:14:58
There's a quote. During Harold's reign, Roe
1:15:00
coinage gradually replaced most of the foreign currency in
1:15:03
circulation. This hoard appears to have been
1:15:06
deposited at the very beginning of that transition, said
1:15:10
Professor Svain Golbek of the coin cabinet at the Museum of
1:15:14
Cultural History. Municipal authorities praised
1:15:19
the two metal detectors, Roon Setra and Vergard Sorely, who
1:15:24
had, according to the statement, completed ethical metal
1:15:28
detecting courses organized to inform hobbyists how to best
1:15:31
handle discoveries related to national archaeological
1:15:34
heritage. Satra and Sorely did everything
1:15:37
correctly when they first found 19 silver coins in early April,
1:15:41
Quote. They've been highly cooperative
1:15:43
and have played an active role in ensuring that the fine has
1:15:46
been secured and documented in the best possible way.
1:15:52
Maito Smyzeth. I don't know how to say.
1:15:56
An archaeologist and advisor on the Inland County Council said
1:15:59
the treasurer has drummed up excitement in the local
1:16:01
community. Quote, this is an extraordinary
1:16:03
discovery of a kind one might experience only once in a
1:16:07
career, Smythe said in a statement.
1:16:09
To be present when something like this comes to light is a
1:16:12
truly remarkable experience, both professionally and
1:16:14
personally, and that is your good news.
1:16:19
True crime headlines. OK, let's just check in on your
1:16:31
comments before we call it a night and a week.
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Guys have been awesome. Let's see, what is it Giga L
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pro? Says Gavin.
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Oh, dear, Miss Bree. Let's see.
1:17:04
I'm not sure if I'm going to bring this up.
1:17:10
Wow. Yeah, I I I will.
1:17:16
Someone in my town essayed his daughter, and she gave birth to
1:17:19
a child. His parents visited him every
1:17:21
weekend, put money in his books and supported him when he got
1:17:24
out, only for him to start with his other daughter.
1:17:33
I don't even know how to answer that.
1:17:35
Just Ducky says any baked goods are my weaknesses.
1:17:39
I did channel my inner Gavin and passed up the Donuts at work
1:17:42
today. Hey Ducky, good job.
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Good job. Doctor Mack or Mack says
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permanent changes. While some women find their hips
1:17:53
return to their pre pregnancy size and shape within 12 to 16
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weeks postpartum, for others the widening is permanent.
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Oh, I yeah. So possible that that that is a
1:18:06
way that they could find that Celeste may have been pregnant,
1:18:09
possibly Vlad Riot from that time period having been minted
1:18:14
in England. They're from the revenge of
1:18:18
something Bryce's Day. Very, very interesting.
1:18:21
Cool, Cool, cool, cool. Heckel says.
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Clarinet girl says May is Mental Health awareness month and that
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