Latest / True Crime with Gavin Fish / Michael McKee In an Ohio Court Today in Ex-Wife & Husband's Murder | Spencer & Monique Tepe Murders
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- 0:01While Michael McKee, the man who is accused of murdering Dr.
- 0:07Spencer Tepi and his wife Monique Tepi, who just so
- 0:11happens to be the ex-wife of the suspect, Mr. McKee, the
- 0:15defendant. While that court appearance only
- 0:20lasted about a minute, there's still tons of information that
- 0:25we have learned about this case and we're going to discuss it
- 0:29tonight. Stick with me.
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- 2:07Hello there, my friend, and welcome back to another true
- 2:09crime conversation with me. Gavin Fish.
- 2:12Thank you for joining me wherever you're joining me from
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- 2:49What happened today? What happened today?
- 2:52This week has gone by so fast, has it not?
- 2:57So much is going on. And of course, the the case that
- 3:04we're talking about today is the case of the murder of Monique
- 3:09Tepi and her husband Spencer Tepi, both of whom were shot to
- 3:15death in their Columbus, OH home, according to police by
- 3:22Monique's ex-husband Michael McKee.
- 3:27Now, Mr. McKee was arrested earlier this month in
- 3:32Chicagoland area in Rockford, IL.
- 3:35He had to be extradited. He did not fight his extradition
- 3:40and he made it all back to Ohio, the land of at least his
- 3:47education. He went to the Ohio State
- 3:49University. He's back in Ohio, but for a
- 3:53different reason. It's for his arraignment.
- 3:55Do you guys like the vocal fry? I don't like it very much, but
- 4:03this dude, I, I'm sure he's not happy to be home.
- 4:09The intern did get me water before we started so that that
- 4:12is great. We've moved up in the world.
- 4:14Let's see where you guys are checking in from.
- 4:17We got Erie, PA in the house. We got Portland, OR.
- 4:20We've got Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville, FL Blizzarding.
- 4:25Ontario, Canada. Meadowbrook, Alabama.
- 4:30Winnifred isn't really my name. Says Gavin.
- 4:33I'm finally catching alive again.
- 4:35Ready for snowpocalypse and Little Rock Higher Wanda.
- 4:38She's elderly and needs a kick. Well, listen, it is against
- 4:47federal law to to take into consideration a person's age.
- 4:53Age discrimination is not OK. I hadn't even noticed.
- 4:57I hadn't even noticed how old Wanda was.
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- 6:07It is it's case, man. And I'm I'm in touch with his
- 6:10twin sister. Sue.
- 6:15Yes, thank you for being here. True Threes.
- 6:18Let's bring up the Tepes again. See where you guys are coming in
- 6:21from. We got Suffolk here, we got
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- 6:31Colorado. Hope you're staying warm.
- 6:35Manassas, VA guy. Fredonia, PA.
- 6:41Dawson, AL. What do we got?
- 6:43Summerville, GA West Palm Beach or Wet Palm Beach.
- 6:48Saint Malo, France. France is in the house.
- 6:52Germ, Oh, we've got so many of our European friends here.
- 6:56Wales, Ohio, San Diego, Western Colorado, Redondo Beach, British
- 7:02Columbia. Thank you all for being here.
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- 7:13OK, guys, let's just watch for a moment.
- 7:18The arraignment, it is about a minute long.
- 7:21It does not take. Let me pause for a second.
- 7:24Hold on, Gavin. Gavin Gavin's getting ahead of
- 7:29himself, OK? It doesn't last long.
- 7:32This entire video is like a minute long, OK?
- 7:38He joined by video up on a screen there.
- 7:42And what's the purpose of an arraignment?
- 7:44Purpose of an arraignment really is just to to enter well to be
- 7:50faced with your charges and to enter either a plea of guilty or
- 7:55not guilty. It's always not guilty.
- 7:58I, I don't think I've ever seen an arraignment, especially on a
- 8:02murder case where he's like, done it.
- 8:05Yeah, that was me. But anyway, let's watch this.
- 8:09Look at his face, man. Look at him.
- 8:12And he does have kind of a Mr. Incredible look to him, right?
- 8:16Like 6 feet tall, about £200. His neck is as wide as his jaw.
- 8:25I I, I wondered if this guy was using some type of anabolic
- 8:32supplement that is known to cause anger issues.
- 8:35I'd wondered about that. But anyway, here we go.
- 8:39We're on the record. Make your parents call you first
- 8:41case, please. Good afternoon, your honor.
- 8:43Stephen Schott, Dan Leather Shell a favor for the state.
- 8:46First case before the court. State of Ohio versus Michael
- 8:49McKee. It's 26, CR 253.
- 8:52There are 5 counts, 4 counts of aggravated murder, unclassified
- 8:55felonies and one count of aggravated burglary felony one.
- 8:59Each of these counts come with a three and a six year firearm
- 9:02specification. We're going to talk about those
- 9:04specifications. I had questions about them, but
- 9:07each count comes with a three and a six year firearm
- 9:10specification specification. Don't let me forget to talk
- 9:14about that. Thank you, Cassie, please make
- 9:17your appearance. Thank you, Honor.
- 9:18Diane and Ashley on behalf of Michael McKee with respect to
- 9:24the allegations who acknowledge receipt waive reading and to the
- 9:26not guilty plea to all counts contained therein.
- 9:29We could also waive bond at this time, although we certainly
- 9:32reserve the right to raise that at a later date.
- 9:34The plea of not guilty form has been executed and signed on
- 9:38behalf of my client. So this is going really, really
- 9:42fast, but she's like, OK, we waive the reading of the
- 9:44charges. You don't need to do that,
- 9:45judge. We waive whether or not my
- 9:48client gets bond. We'll we'll worry about that at
- 9:53a later date. I wonder, by the way, I wonder
- 9:57what this guy's personal finances are, Ohio says.
- 10:02As far as me reading the law today as a non lawyer, I think
- 10:07that in Ohio, it is a state where bond even on a murder
- 10:13charge, it is a defendant's right.
- 10:18So I don't think that the judge can hold him without bond, but
- 10:21he can set it high. I think from what I read today,
- 10:24again, correct me if I'm wrong, we got about 12 seconds left.
- 10:28Here we go. Thank you, Chancellor.
- 10:30I'm signing not guilty plea. I'm signing the bond form
- 10:32indicating that bond is in the way any further.
- 10:35Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is the entire hearing.
- 10:41That's the entire hearing. It was 58 seconds long.
- 10:47Sue. What did we learn today?
- 10:50Well, let's get into it because there is a terrific article from
- 10:57The Columbus Dispatch. Let me bring it up on screen so
- 11:00you guys can enjoy it as well. Written by Bethany
- 11:03brunner@dispatch.com Title headline says suspect in Monique
- 11:09Spencer Tepi murders Michael McKee, waves bond.
- 11:13Check this out. Amidst a sea of cameras and
- 11:16reporters from local and national media outlets, the
- 11:20Chicago doctor accused of fatally shooting his ex-wife and
- 11:24her husband appeared in an Ohio courtroom for less than two
- 11:27minutes. It was 58 seconds.
- 11:30It was less than a minute. Michael McKee appeared for an
- 11:34arraignment on January 23rd in Franklin County Common Pleas
- 11:38Court. He arrived in Ohio and was
- 11:39booked into the Franklin County Jail on January 20th.
- 11:44Arraignments, A cursory early hearing in the judicial process,
- 11:48are often sparsely attended affairs.
- 11:51I find this to be true in fact in in the Commonwealth of
- 11:58Pennsylvania where I live, which borders Ohio to the east, most,
- 12:08most arraignments happen in District Court.
- 12:12They then do cursory arraignments in the Common Pleas
- 12:14Court, but almost nobody is there for that.
- 12:21And sometimes arraignments, there might be like 20
- 12:26arraignment hearings in a row just Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang
- 12:28Bang bang. Nobody even bats an iron knows
- 12:31what's going on so often sparsely attended affairs.
- 12:35The January 23rd hearing in the Tempe killings illustrated the
- 12:39national attention surrounding the case.
- 12:42Cameras from Court TV, local news outlets and their national
- 12:46affiliates crowded the jury box of Franklin County Common Pleas
- 12:50Courtroom 2B. In addition, several members of
- 12:53the public who were in attendance either for Mckees
- 12:56hearing or others on the day's docket were chided by courtroom
- 13:00security for trying to take photos of the hearing in the
- 13:03heavy media presence. At least two people.
- 13:07I love this sentence. At least two people who identify
- 13:12themselves as two true crime content creators were also in
- 13:16attendance. Why didn't I go?
- 13:20Man? Columbus is only four hours from
- 13:24me. I should have gone.
- 13:26How far is Columbus from me? You guys talked amongst
- 13:29yourselves. How far I should be going to
- 13:31these hearings? Let's let's I'm not going to
- 13:34show you, but let let me just let me just figure it out here
- 13:36real quick. Columbus Common Pleas Court.
- 13:44Let's see Directiony Pooh it's three hours and 23 minutes.
- 13:49I should be going to these. I, I should, I should be going
- 13:53to these. Any who two people that identify
- 13:58themselves as true crime content creators were there.
- 14:01We should make that three, OK? No members of Mckee's family or
- 14:06the Tempe family attended the hearing.
- 14:08McKee, 39, wearing a jail uniform and appearing via closed
- 14:12circuit TV, pleaded not guilty through his attorney, Diane
- 14:16Minash. Now.
- 14:18Oh damn, I've been so good lately.
- 14:20I haven't been yawning. But then you get it in your
- 14:23mind. You get it in your mind and then
- 14:25it goes. Minash is somewhat of a
- 14:32celebrity attorney in Columbus, as it turns out.
- 14:39I think. Let me let me open this up real
- 14:43quick. Yeah.
- 14:47So local attorney who represented other high profile
- 14:49clients will now represent Michael McKee.
- 14:53He retained local attorney Diane Minash to represent him.
- 14:57Minash has been an attorney for 27 years, currently works at her
- 15:00own firm. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
- 15:03blah, blah. Who is Diane Minash?
- 15:05I should show you guys this. I'm reading it from a from a
- 15:07website. Minash grew up in a Seattle
- 15:09suburb before attending Purdue University for her undergraduate
- 15:12degree. She got her law degree from
- 15:14Tulane in New Orleans. During law school, Minash
- 15:17coached Tulane's varsity rowing team.
- 15:20Oh my goodness. Amazing.
- 15:24She moved to Columbus in 98, worked in the Public Defenders
- 15:28Public, or DP unit. She's defended about three dozen
- 15:31people facing the DP. Wow, that's seriously including
- 15:36several high profile Franklin County cases during her career.
- 15:40She described herself to the Dispatch as being strongly
- 15:42opposed to the DP, which inspired a lot of her work in
- 15:44those cases. In 2018, she defended Brian
- 15:50Goldsby, a man convicted of killing 21 year old Ohio State
- 15:53University student Reagan Tokes. Franklin County Common Police
- 15:59Court Judge Mark Sarat credited Minash's argument to the jury
- 16:03during the penalty phase of the trial is the sole reason Goldsby
- 16:05received life in prison with no possibility for parole.
- 16:08Instead of the DP, she represented Quentin Smith.
- 16:12OK, well, it's going to go on and on and on and on.
- 16:15And she has a reputation for being ruthless and thorough.
- 16:19In legal circles, she's known for a blunt, no nonsense
- 16:21approach to trial work while also finding ways to lighten the
- 16:24mood when appropriate. She is an instructor at Harvard
- 16:27Law School's Trial Advocacy Workshop and a fellow in the
- 16:30American College Trial Lawyers and the International Academy of
- 16:34Trial Lawyers. So she is no joke.
- 16:37This is a good attorney. OK, getting back to the article.
- 16:43The not guilty plea is standard in criminal cases so attorneys
- 16:46can review evidence as it continues to be collected
- 16:48instead of agreeing to a bond. Minash waived Mckee's right to
- 16:52have a bond at this time, but could ask for one to be set at a
- 16:54later date. He's charged with four counts of
- 16:57aggravated murder, 1 count of aggravated burglary.
- 17:01Dang it, what is going on? I need oxygen, I need to
- 17:05breathe, need to breathe, breathe, breathing exercises.
- 17:12OK. Connection with the deaths of
- 17:14the Tepes. He's accused of going to the
- 17:17Tepes home on the 1400 block of N 4th St. in Weinland Park
- 17:21around 3:50 AM on December 30th. As I recall, the affidavit of
- 17:28probable cause is 352 and fatally shooting the Tepes.
- 17:32The charges McKee faces also include a specification that
- 17:35alleges he used a silencer or other noise suppression device
- 17:39during the killings. If convicted, he faces a maximum
- 17:44sentence of life in prison without the possibility of
- 17:46parole. A judge will be assigned to
- 17:48Mckee's case following his arraignment, and a trial
- 17:50schedule will be created until evidence has been collected,
- 17:54analyzed and reviewed by all parties in the case.
- 17:56Trial dates will be continued. This is very good reporting
- 18:00because what the court will do, if it's anything like any court
- 18:05that I've ever covered, they will, they will schedule the
- 18:09next hearing because they have to.
- 18:11It's, it's required by their, by their code, right?
- 18:16They have to do it. But until the lawyers are ready
- 18:22to actually have a hearing, have a conference, and the judge is
- 18:26too, they'll just keep rescheduling, rescheduling,
- 18:30rescheduling. And we see this over and over
- 18:33and over. So why is Michael McKee facing 4
- 18:38aggravated murder charges? Ohio law allows charges to be
- 18:42filed based on multiple theories of the same crime, as well as to
- 18:46cover different aspects of the alleged crime.
- 18:49In Mckee's case, the four aggravated murder charges relate
- 18:52to two different aspects of the homicide he is accused of
- 18:55committing. Two of the charges, one for each
- 18:58of the Tepes, accuse McKee of killing them with prior
- 19:00calculation or design, often called premeditation, which is 1
- 19:05subsection of Ohio's aggravated murder law.
- 19:08The other two charges, again one for Monique and one for Spencer,
- 19:11accuse McKee of killing them while committing another violent
- 19:15crime, specifically the burglary.
- 19:18This type of charging is common in homicide cases.
- 19:21In fact, I have seen some cases where there are 5 or 6 different
- 19:27homicide charges for the same homicide.
- 19:32So we talked about what happens in an arraignment.
- 19:37Nothing really does. Why does Michael McKee get a
- 19:41chance for bond? Ohio's constitution requires
- 19:44bonds to be issued in criminal cases unless the defendant is
- 19:48charged with a felony. There's a significant, there is
- 19:51a significant evidence in the case and the defendant poses a
- 19:55substantial risk of serious physical harm to any person or
- 19:58the community. A hearing is held to determine
- 20:00those circumstances and can be requested by prosecutors through
- 20:03a written motion. I guess it's just been a long
- 20:08week. You guys are like, dude, Gavin,
- 20:11I'm probably making you yawn. Not cool.
- 20:13As of January 22nd, no such motion had been filed in Mckee's
- 20:17case. Prosecutors can file the motion
- 20:19at any time during the case. Judges and magistrates who set
- 20:24bond are required by law to consider public safety, the
- 20:27seriousness of the crime, the defendant's prior criminal
- 20:29history and whether the defendant is likely to appear at
- 20:33future court dates. Excessive bond is not permitted.
- 20:37Judges and magistrates are urged to impose the least restrictive
- 20:40release conditions that ensure a person will return to court and
- 20:44not pose a threat to public safety.
- 20:47So I guess I'm wrong. My research led me to believe
- 20:51something else. Maybe he won't be given bond
- 20:56considering that he is accused of murdering 2 people.
- 21:01Now, what was the thing that I asked you guys to remind me of?
- 21:07I'm not a very good actor. I know what it is.
- 21:09I want to talk about the what they call the specifications.
- 21:16OK, This is the indictment of Mr. McKee.
- 21:19We've gone over this together before and this is the actual
- 21:24document that that the part of that report was actually based
- 21:27on. So, you know, count 1,
- 21:30aggravated murder under 29, O3 dot O 1A and it has 2
- 21:36specifications. And then count 2 is of Spencer
- 21:40Tempe. The previous one was Monique
- 21:42with the 2 specifications. And then there's aggravated
- 21:45burglary with the 2 specifications and then there's
- 21:49a 29-O3 dot O 1B, which is another aggravated murder charge
- 21:55while killing Monique with the 2 specifications and then the one
- 21:58for Spencer with the 2 specifications.
- 21:59So what are the 2 specifications?
- 22:03I looked it up and basically the specifications say that because
- 22:13of this certain factor that is alleged, if he or or she, if the
- 22:18defendant is convicted of this crime and it's proven that he
- 22:25did so with a firearm. And in this case there are two
- 22:29of them. There's a firearm specification
- 22:30and a silenced firearms or a suppressed firearm specification
- 22:37that it is mandatory to add three years to the first one or
- 22:42six years to the second one. And these are in the Ohio
- 22:47Revised Code. So you know, section 2941.144
- 22:54says imposition of a six year mandatory prison term upon an
- 22:58offender under division B1A1 of section 2929 blah blah blah blah
- 23:03blah is precluded unless the indictment blah blah blah.
- 23:07OK so basically it's like hey if it's not precluded and it is
- 23:13included, then there's a mandatory 6 year prison term if
- 23:20they are convicted of this under 2941144.
- 23:24Under 2941145 it's a mandatory 3 year addition.
- 23:33OK now that begged the question for me.
- 23:36OK, well he's got 5 counts and each count has 2 specifications,
- 23:44meaning that if he is convicted of all 5 counts with the
- 23:51specifications, we're talking 9 * 5, we're adding 45 years to
- 23:56his sentence. Which made me wonder, OK, well,
- 24:02are they serving consecutively or concurrently?
- 24:08And this is all just very, I guess academic doesn't matter,
- 24:12it's life in prison. But it, it got it, I don't know.
- 24:15It tickled me. So I had to, I had to had to go
- 24:18into it. Well, what I learned is that
- 24:24most of the time it is consecutively.
- 24:28However, I found an article from courtnewsohio.gov from December
- 24:379th of 2024, just over a year ago, where Ohio law only allows
- 24:42a maximum of two consecutive prison terms for firearms
- 24:46specifications that are added to the sentence of a violent
- 24:49offender. And that comes from a Supreme
- 24:52Court case from, well, the original case was from 2021.
- 24:58It made it all the way up to the Supreme Court.
- 25:00So I guess the answer to that question is that if he is
- 25:04convicted to life in prison without the possibility of
- 25:09parole, that another nine years would be added to a sentence.
- 25:16That's what we learned. Was there anything else on this
- 25:22one? I think we got it.
- 25:24All right. Yeah, we got it all.
- 25:28OK, let's check in. Let's bring up the Tepies again.
- 25:32Let's check in on what y'all are saying over in the live chat.
- 25:38Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
- 25:40Emmy says, Gavin, love your show.
- 25:42Well, thank you, Emmy. Appreciate it, Ruder says.
- 25:45He's for sure scary. Yeah, I want a beach bum eating
- 25:51candy, watching Gavin talk about the case.
- 25:53I'm obsessed with Perfect Friday.
- 25:55That's funny. His mouth is fish mouth, says
- 25:59Sharky Sharona. Hold on.
- 26:00Let's see. He does have a little cute and
- 26:06cute little mouth. Child of God 3675 did you see
- 26:15the good pastor, the good pastor JP Miller.
- 26:20Do I have do I have it? I guess I don't I I was going to
- 26:27try to bring up his his case here but or his mug here was set
- 26:31free today free on the stocking charges.
- 26:34I did not see that, but it doesn't surprise me he would he
- 26:38would get bond on that Joanne Marie he looks like Dudley do
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- 27:57need to make for sure. Wayne Matchbox, can you tell us
- 28:02if the wedding video has always been on public view or was it
- 28:06turned to public after the incident?
- 28:09I I don't know the answer to that question.
- 28:14For as long as I've been paying attention, which is after the
- 28:16incident, it has been publicly viewable.
- 28:24Let's see, reality vacation, says Gavin.
- 28:29In my naive early 40s, I pled guilty to a charge of blight.
- 28:34My husband had been charged a gazillion times.
- 28:37After stunned silence, the nice judge schooled me by basically
- 28:41saying you don't do that. What is the charge of blight?
- 28:50I don't even know. What the Am I showing my naivety
- 28:53here? What is a charge of blight in
- 28:58court? Is that just.
- 29:02Oh, yeah. OK.
- 29:02So like you're you're not maintaining your property
- 29:08correctly. It's in blighted conditions.
- 29:12OK. Autumn says about 3 1/2 hours.
- 29:18I can't remember what that is. McKee paying for minute.
- 29:22I think so. I think he is.
- 29:25I mean, she's not a public defender.
- 29:26She is a high profile local attorney.
- 29:29She's Harvard instructor. So yeah.
- 29:36And Ohio Palm. Mom, I apologize.
- 29:40I apologize. I I, I don't know why.
- 29:45I think I'm just not breathing deeply enough because I'm not
- 29:48tired. Mooney asks so deep he is not on
- 29:51the table. I don't think it is, no.
- 29:54I don't know why a Heineman says DP is not decided yet.
- 30:00They will determine that later. OK.
- 30:04Scotch's mom says McKee is a flight risk.
- 30:06I think so too. I think so too.
- 30:10Yes, it is a specification on guns.
- 30:11I just was trying to figure out what is the specification mean.
- 30:14It's like an addition. Joanne, have you ever seen
- 30:20anyone get a not guilty verdict with these types of charges,
- 30:29specifically these types of charges?
- 30:36I guess I I haven't. Not that.
- 30:39Not that comes to mind. Yeah, I don't.
- 30:50Nothing comes to mind right now. Glasgow, Scotland in the house.
- 30:57Glad you're here. Buffalo, NY is in the house.
- 31:01Thank you very much. Emmy says how to follow you on
- 31:06Slack. I used to use it.
- 31:07I use Slack as a as a tool for kind of my inner circle.
- 31:12So that's my my mods, my Facebook and social media
- 31:16admins, my writers on crime COD, we use Slack to to communicate
- 31:23with one another. So it's not something that I
- 31:25really like put out there in the public.
- 31:28Aunt Tis, I see, I see this, but I don't see your previous
- 31:34comment. You got to you got to give me
- 31:35more. Got to give me more.
- 31:39But yeah, guys, so that's what happened in the case today.
- 31:45Oh, yeah, antis says. Would OJ be a similar case where
- 31:50he was found not guilty? Well, it is a that's a yeah, I
- 31:56mean, it was ADV case. If the glad don't glove don't
- 32:00fit, you can't. Oh, you must acquit.
- 32:03Is that the famous line? Yeah, OJ is is a similar case.
- 32:10Yeah, good job that. What year was that?
- 32:13I I feel like I was, I feel like I was out of the country for
- 32:19this. What year was OJ Simpson
- 32:24arrested? 94 and I left in January of 95 S
- 32:32June of 94 is when that famous police pursuit happened.
- 32:36In January of 95, I was gonzo and living in a beautiful but at
- 32:44the time definitely third world country where I had very limited
- 32:49communication with the outside world.
- 32:52I lived in some places where there was a telephone in town,
- 32:54but it was 1 telephone and you know, you'd have to pay little
- 33:00features for it that these little these little coins that
- 33:03were made specifically for the pay phone.
- 33:06You know what that is? You know what that is right
- 33:08there? I did it.
- 33:10It's my fault. Yep, that was me.
- 33:16That was my fault. I got on my tangent of OJ
- 33:19Simpson and for some reason the shiny little features down in
- 33:23the middle of RG Land. Oh my goodness.
- 33:25It's so cool that I am now in contact with friends that I made
- 33:30in the 1990s in Argentina because they have cell phones
- 33:35and the Internet. And when I was there, it was
- 33:39that that was not even even close to on the horizon.
- 33:44Well, in fact, I got home in in January of 97 and the Windows 95
- 33:54revolution happened when I left, after I left.
- 33:57And so in about December of of 96, a new missionary came down
- 34:03and he was telling me all about e-mail and it blew my mind, just
- 34:06blew my mind. I couldn't believe, I just
- 34:11couldn't believe it was so amazing.
- 34:12So, but now I'm in touch with with folks that that honestly,
- 34:19when I left the country I thought I'd never see again.
- 34:21I was really sad about. Anyway, super long tangent.
- 34:27He was wait a minute, he was acquitted on my birthday,
- 34:32October 3rd, 95, He was acquitted.
- 34:37I'm my birthday. That was my 20th birthday,
- 34:42right? Let me do the math here.
- 34:44Yeah, that's my 20th birthday. Oh, I am old.
- 34:51I I turned 50 here this year. Guys.
- 34:55Beck lived in Asuncion couple years ago.
- 34:58Awesome. And in 95, Amy says I moved to
- 35:03Malta from my Bulgaria. Awesome.
- 35:07Malta. I've never been to Malta.
- 35:10Never been to Malta. Any who guys, you know what time
- 35:14it is, You know what time it is. Let's get in three questions.
- 35:19It's three questions with Gavin Fish.
- 35:27Pow, OK. In this segment, guys, as you
- 35:30know, or you don't, maybe you're new here.
- 35:32And if you are welcome, thanks for being here.
- 35:35In this segment, I answer 3 questions.
- 35:38Let's see. I do it this way.
- 35:39Some people do it this way, some people do it that way.
- 35:42You know what, guys? Guys, OK, listen, I have to do
- 35:52another tangent. I'm sorry, I am on a journey to
- 36:00get healthy. OK, that means I'm exercising,
- 36:03I'm stretching, I'm eating sensible Whole Foods, high in
- 36:09protein and high in other nutrients.
- 36:12I it's been a just life changing for me.
- 36:18I have always done well, not always in my adulthood.
- 36:22I have made the number three with my hand this way because I
- 36:25couldn't do it this way because I couldn't like I, I couldn't
- 36:30reach my thumb over to my pinky without like pain.
- 36:37And here I am. Can I do it?
- 36:39I can do it on both. That's pretty awesome.
- 36:46You know, I've been, I've been experiencing these like major
- 36:50changes in my life just by making minor tweaks.
- 36:54It's so cool. Anyway, man, that is, I am
- 37:00really delighted about that little.
- 37:04That's so cool. My hands are all stretched out
- 37:07and limber and compared. They're not as limber as, say,
- 37:10the hands of my lovely wife who is a fitness guru and kind of a
- 37:16gym rat. I got to say kind of a gym rat.
- 37:21But anyway, OK, what was I saying?
- 37:233 questions. Three questions.
- 37:25In this segment, I answer three of your questions that you send
- 37:29in to me at the e-mail address shown on the screen.
- 37:31Three questions at gavinfish.com spelled out.
- 37:34THREE questions at gavinfish.com.
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- 37:56the best of my ability and honestly.
- 38:00So here we go with question number one.
- 38:04It just says favorite childhood memory.
- 38:06Well, that is not even a question at all.
- 38:10In fact, I don't even think that's a complete sentence.
- 38:14Favorite childhood memory? It's not.
- 38:20There's no predicate. OK, It doesn't matter.
- 38:23Doesn't matter. You're asking me what is my
- 38:26favorite childhood memory? So I had the maybe it feels like
- 38:40it feels more and more like it's unique or rare, but I had a
- 38:47happy freaking childhood, man. I had grandparents who loved me,
- 38:52aunts and uncles. I had so many cousins.
- 38:55My parents love each other and me and my siblings.
- 38:58I have awesome siblings. I had a really happy childhood.
- 39:02I had really good friends. And as I grew up, I like, you
- 39:07know, did all the did all the things that you do as you grow.
- 39:12So do I have a favorite childhood memory?
- 39:15I don't think so. I don't think I have a favorite
- 39:18childhood memory. I have so many moments that are
- 39:22awesome, though, So let me just pick one.
- 39:27Oh, here's one. My oldest sister got married in
- 39:331988. That would that would have made
- 39:35me almost thirteen years old. I was 12 and it was in the
- 39:43summer to my brother-in-law, who was awesome.
- 39:47I mean, I'm 50 years old now. He's been my brother-in-law for
- 39:5138 years. So awesome.
- 39:56But it, it was a stressful time. And if I'm if I'm going to be
- 40:01honest, she was a bit of a bridezilla, but nothing in
- 40:05comparison to Grandma. Grandma Zilla, Oh, she was hard
- 40:13to take, man. But anyway, after the wedding in
- 40:18the summer, my baby sister and I were invited to go with Grandpa
- 40:22and Grandma back to their place back in the town that I consider
- 40:27my hometown up in up in Summit County, Utah.
- 40:33And we went back there. Now, my sister and
- 40:37brother-in-law went on their camping honeymoon, which is no
- 40:42honeymoon at all. Don't do that to your beloved.
- 40:44OK? Listen, these are not my words.
- 40:49I stole these from somebody else.
- 40:50But I was told once, and I agree with this completely, camping, I
- 40:58hate camping. OK?
- 41:00It's either hot, too hot, too cold, too wet, or too dry.
- 41:06Do you know where it is? Perfect.
- 41:08My living room. And that's how I feel about
- 41:11camping. But that's what they did for
- 41:12their honeymoon, OK? They're too young, broke kids.
- 41:15It's fine, it's fine. But about two days into hanging
- 41:20out at Grandpa and grandma's house, which is like a play
- 41:23land, my sister and new brother-in-law show up 'cause I
- 41:29think my sister was just sick of camping, wanted to shower.
- 41:33And anyway, this is making this is a long story.
- 41:37Make a long story longer. My brother-in-law wanting me out
- 41:41of the house because they were there had a motorcycle that he
- 41:46had strapped in the back of their truck and he basically was
- 41:50just like have at it man. And I rode that thing for like 2
- 41:58days. Oh, it was so much fun.
- 42:01It was a Yamaha big wheel. It had big fat flotation tires
- 42:05so it felt felt different than anything I'd ever ridden before
- 42:09that. It was so much fun, just had so
- 42:12much fun. And if my brother-in-law wasn't
- 42:14already the coolest in my mind before, he certainly was after.
- 42:21Oh yes, I don't know. That's one of my favorite.
- 42:25I've got 1000 childhood memories that are awesome first kisses,
- 42:30right, magical, magical. The the first time that you
- 42:35realize, you know, for for people my age, we would do
- 42:40dances, right, that that's Saturday night dance was the
- 42:43thing that that we would do our Friday night dance.
- 42:46And when you're starting out of those, you're 12, you're 13
- 42:49years old. The slow songs are what you
- 42:50dread, but but there's a moment where the slow dance becomes the
- 42:57thing that you look forward to, and that is a magical moment.
- 43:04Oh yes, yes it is OK. Favorite adult memory to date?
- 43:11Oh goodness goodness sake, favorite adult again?
- 43:21I live a really happy life. I I favorite adult.
- 43:29I I couldn't even narrow it down to a favorite.
- 43:35Let me see. It's going to be with, with
- 43:42Kimberly or one of the kids. Let me just let me just choose a
- 43:45a magical one. Oh, here's one.
- 43:54I used to travel on business a lot, and I needed to go to
- 43:58Munich. And that Munich was a place that
- 44:00I would go to at least once a year, usually two or three
- 44:05times, but at least once a year. And Kimberly and I decided that
- 44:11we wanted to expand our children's understanding of the
- 44:15world. So when they turned 14, they
- 44:21became eligible for an international trip and they
- 44:24could choose which one. Our oldest daughter chose
- 44:31Europe, I think. I think all we did there was
- 44:36Germany and Austria. But she wanted to go to Austria
- 44:40because she was she's a nerd for musical theater the way her dad
- 44:44is, and she wanted to see Villa Trap, the the home of Gay Org
- 44:50and Maria von Trapp, who are immortalized in The Sound of
- 44:54Music, right? So anyway, we spent a lot of fun
- 45:00time together, but there was one one night and Grace had been,
- 45:08she'd been making it really hard on me for about a year before
- 45:11that. I I had decided that I just
- 45:13didn't like my child at that point, I'd had enough. 13 year
- 45:19olds are the worst. I mean, they are.
- 45:21We all were right? At least I think we all were.
- 45:24I definitely was. But we had this moment of father
- 45:29daughter bonding one night in Munich.
- 45:32We were in our hotel room and we turned on the TV and the Disney
- 45:38Channel was on. And of course this is a 14 year
- 45:40old girl. And so there was like there was
- 45:43just like a Disney Channel musical, High School Musical, or
- 45:51I can't remember what it was, but there was like a Disney,
- 45:53Disney Channel movie on, a musical movie on.
- 45:56We decided instead of going out, we would just get room service
- 46:00and we would watch the I mean, it seems like seems stupid.
- 46:04We're in Germany. We should go, we should go do
- 46:06something. But she was tired.
- 46:09She'd had enough of I'd I'd dragged her everywhere and I had
- 46:12made her eat asparagus and stuff like that because May in Munich
- 46:15is Chicago season. It's so delicious.
- 46:18She didn't like it. But anyway, we when that movie
- 46:22was over, another movie came on and and it just kept going all
- 46:28night long. We watched Disney Channel
- 46:31musical movies all night long till about 5:00 in the morning.
- 46:36And then we're like, well, we're planning on Villa Trap today.
- 46:41Should we take a nap and then go?
- 46:42And she's like, well, I'm up, are you up?
- 46:44I'm up. So we hopped in the car and
- 46:46drove to Austria. I was gassed at the end of that
- 46:51day, but it was so much fun to just watch.
- 46:56Kitschy little movies with my daughter in Germany, eating room
- 47:04service and potato chips and candy.
- 47:06It was It was the moment where I started to like her again.
- 47:11I always loved her. I always loved her.
- 47:13But there was a year, man. Yeah.
- 47:15Oh, was there a year? Yeah.
- 47:18That that is a favorite adult memory.
- 47:22Last question. Scariest thing you've ever
- 47:24experienced? This is easy.
- 47:28Kimberly and I have five children.
- 47:31We have a almost 10 year gap between child #3 and child #4
- 47:36and then we have, you know, so the first three are very close
- 47:40together, the last two are very close together.
- 47:44But when we had when we had our our baby, our youngest, it was a
- 47:52difficult, difficult delivery. And for a moment, I thought that
- 48:00I'd lost my wife. And that's not me being
- 48:04overdramatic. I mean, it was it was a life or
- 48:07death kind of thing. That is the scariest moment of
- 48:10my life for sure. Now, listen, I want you to tell
- 48:15me your answers to the three questions of the day.
- 48:19Favorite childhood memory, favorite adult memory and
- 48:22scariest thing you have ever experienced?
- 48:25Please don't be as verbose as I am.
- 48:27Just type it in there. Use your flums.
- 48:29And while you're doing that, we're going to move on.
- 48:31We're going to give you some time by moving on to headlines.
- 48:33Here we go. OK, join me once again over at
- 48:45Acrobat, this one from TMZ. TMZ has been on the Celeste
- 48:49Rivas Hernandez case this whole time, Says David's friend Neo,
- 48:55arrested for failure to appear as a witness.
- 48:58And I'm going to skip the updates and go down to here and
- 49:01then we'll come back to the updates while David remains in
- 49:04the crosshairs. If you guys remember the case of
- 49:08Celeste Rivas Hernandez, she 14 year old girl found in pieces in
- 49:14the front trunk of David Burke's Tesla in Hollywood.
- 49:22Oh my goodness. It is a sad, sad case of course.
- 49:27But anyway, while David remains in the crosshairs of
- 49:31investigators and this is yellow journalism and probing the
- 49:35Celeste Rivas murder, one of his friends, a famous streamer, is
- 49:38also in trouble. Now, David's friend Leo Langston
- 49:41was booked into a Montana jail Thursday on a warrant, according
- 49:45to online records. A Rep for Lewis and Clark County
- 49:47Jail, where Neo is locked up, tells TMZ there was an out of
- 49:51jurisdiction warrant from Los Angeles for failure to appear as
- 49:54a witness. He's currently held without
- 49:57bond. And then it goes on to say
- 50:00interesting because there has been a grand jury convened since
- 50:03at least November in Celeste's murder case with multiple
- 50:07witnesses testifying. Our sources have told us David
- 50:10is likely to be charged with her murder.
- 50:13Unclear if 23 year old Neo was being called as a witness in the
- 50:16Rivas case, but his connection to David can't be ignored.
- 50:19And then I'm going to go up to the top.
- 50:21The update at 156. Cops in Helena, Mt confirm they
- 50:24were assisting LAP DS robbery homicide division when they
- 50:28busted Neo. That is the division leading the
- 50:32investigation in of the Celeste Rivas Hernandez murder.
- 50:37And then the second update, Neo is already being transferred to
- 50:40Los Angeles, according to multiple law enforcement sources
- 50:42in Montana, we're told his truck S began immediately after a
- 50:45Friday morning appearance before a judge.
- 50:47So we've got that news coming out of TMZ.
- 50:54Interesting how they write that man, but OK.
- 50:58Next headline Luigi Mangioni's federal murder trial starts
- 51:02September 8th. Judge says I think this is
- 51:05unlikely to happen, but written by Michael R Sisic and Larry
- 51:09Neumeister Newmeister from the AP Dateline, New York Luigi
- 51:15Mangioni's federal murder trial in the killing of United
- 51:18Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. We'll begin with jury selection
- 51:21September 8th, a judge said Friday.
- 51:25Judge Margaret Garnett said the rest of the trial schedule,
- 51:28including opening statements and testimony, is contingent on
- 51:30whether she allows prosecutors to seek the DP.
- 51:33It's one of several issues the judge is weighing.
- 51:36If the DP is still in play, the next phase of the trial will
- 51:39begin January 11th, 2027. That's more than four months
- 51:44after the start of jury selection.
- 51:46So I think that that's unlikely to happen on that schedule, but
- 51:50they do have to schedule those things.
- 51:51So we'll see what happens later this year.
- 51:54All right. And finally from court TV, ex
- 51:56Olympic snowboarder on FB is most wanted list has been
- 52:00arrested. Dateline This is the AP as well.
- 52:03Dateline, Ontario, CA Ryan Wedding, a former Canadian
- 52:08Olympic snowboarder who was among the FB is top fugitives,
- 52:11is facing charges related to multinational drug trafficking
- 52:14and the killing of a federal witness has been arrested in
- 52:18Mexico, top Justice Department officials said Friday.
- 52:21Wedding, 44, is accused of running a drug trafficking
- 52:24operation and officials say he orchestrated several killings to
- 52:28further the drug crimes. He was on the 10 Most Wanted
- 52:33Fugitives list and authorities had offered a $15 million reward
- 52:37for information leading to his arrest and conviction.
- 52:40US Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel
- 52:44confirmed wedding's arrest on social media posts.
- 52:48So that guy is off the street. Looks like he's looks like he's
- 52:54wearing a Patek. What are, what are those called?
- 52:57A Nautilus. That's what it looks like.
- 53:03But of course, it's a small picture.
- 53:04Anyway, those are your headlines.
- 53:15True crime headlines. All right, let's check out what
- 53:18you guys are saying over here. Let's see, Archangel Morici also
- 53:26hates camping. Beck likes glamping.
- 53:31Judy Allison camping was never for her.
- 53:34Garth is all about glamping. You know what I consider camping
- 53:38and I know this, this makes me hoity toity, noise in the air,
- 53:41nose in the air. But if it's a three star hotel,
- 53:43that's camping for me. OK, I don't reality vacation.
- 53:49I love camping, says me who hasn't gone in 20 years.
- 53:53That's funny, Emmy says my favorite memory is getting
- 53:58married 15 years ago. That's sweet.
- 54:01That is awesome. Let's see reality vacation.
- 54:07Asparagus sure beats okra dude. If you have not had German
- 54:13Spagel, which it's asparagus, but what they do is they don't
- 54:19let the asparagus stalk see sunlight.
- 54:22As it grows, they mound more dirt on it and it keeps growing.
- 54:27They mound more dirt on it. So it grows thick, man.
- 54:30Like big, maybe not that big, but way bigger than asparagus
- 54:34that we get here. And it's white and it is
- 54:37delicious. I know that there are
- 54:40restaurants throughout the US that in the spring import that
- 54:45particular asparagus, but I've only ever had it in Germany.
- 54:50It's amazing, Scotch's mom says. Favorite childhood memory, Going
- 54:55to Padre Island, Texas when I was seven.
- 54:58Favorite adult memory? Taking my daughter to Disneyland
- 55:01when she was 6. Awesome and scariest moment
- 55:04being stuck in an elevator, Mooney says.
- 55:08I got I visited von Trapp house in Austria.
- 55:10Beautiful. Has she been to the Von Trapp
- 55:12Family Lodge in Vermont? No, we have not.
- 55:16Apparently that is where they ended up when they came to the
- 55:18US. Awesome G smile, Sarah says.
- 55:23I've set notification for show many times and I'm never
- 55:26notified. So I'm watching the end and I'll
- 55:28go back and watch the whole episode.
- 55:29I'm sorry that's happening. I wish.
- 55:31I don't know why that happens. I do not know the Meg says my
- 55:36favorite adult memory. My husband and I didn't get a
- 55:41honeymoon for our 10th anniversary.
- 55:42We went to Florida and I went to the beach for the first time.
- 55:46I felt so free and happy we moved there.
- 55:48That's awesome. I love it.
- 55:50Love it favorite childhood memory from the Meg probably
- 55:56going on on motorcycle rides with my dad to the mountains for
- 55:59a shake and a burger on at Coney Island that that's cool.
- 56:02That's cool G smile. Sarah didn't hear all the
- 56:06questions. But if there's a favorite adult
- 56:08memory, I'd say it's the birth of my two children.
- 56:10They are my everything beautiful.
- 56:13And then let's see Shauna Boo or Shauna Boo says favorite
- 56:20childhood memory. Sitting on the back porch at my
- 56:22grandparents house with my Papa eating his homemade canned dill
- 56:26Pickles, drinking my granny's sweet tea.
- 56:29That's that's awesome. A mischievous dragon Ryan
- 56:33wedding T-shirt. Those look like welks.
- 56:35A notable state of I I'm not following.
- 56:39Sorry, I'm not following. OK, I think that's I think those
- 56:47are all the comments. Thanks, guys.
- 56:51Oh, favorite childhood memory? Cross country skiing.
- 56:55And Emmy says she's a nerd for Backstreet Boys.
- 56:59I, I do have Backstreet Boys on, on my playlist, on my likes.
- 57:04I, I like Backstreet Boys. They're little, I don't know,
- 57:09you know, that whole time I went to high school from 89 to 93 and
- 57:16that whole time where like New Kids on the Block and there,
- 57:21there were just so many bands. There's so many like groups, boy
- 57:26bands, girl bands. I didn't really get into them,
- 57:31but later on I'd start listening to their stuff and I'm like,
- 57:34hey, hey, Ding, that's that's a pretty good song.
- 57:37It's pretty great. So yeah, I'm happy for you.
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