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The Acupuncturist the FBI Hunted for 4 Years After the Brink's Murders · FBI Files

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  Speaker 1: An hour north of New York City, a band of
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  Speaker 1: deadly gunmen descended on a peaceful suburban community. They struck
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  Speaker 1: quickly and savagely. Agents learned that the gang's leader had
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  Speaker 1: been living underground.
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  Speaker 2: For more than two decades.
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  Speaker 1: The FBI's New York Anti-Terrorist Task Force hoped they could
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  Speaker 1: find this most wanted fugitive before he killed the gang.
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  Speaker 3: A series of armored car heists and bloody shootouts shocked
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  Speaker 3: law enforcement. The brutal violence of the crimes suggested a
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  Speaker 3: motive more complex than greed. When the robbers started targeting police,
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  Speaker 3: the FBI took charge. I'm Jim Kallstrom, former head of
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  Speaker 3: the FBI's New York office. Agents would expend thousands of
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  Speaker 3: man hours to stop an armed gang that terrorized New York.
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  Speaker 2: Rockland County, New York, 1981.
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  Speaker 1: The burgeoning suburb just 20 miles north of New York
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  Speaker 1: City had become a refuge of former city dwellers. Most
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  Speaker 1: left their urban homes in pursuit of safer, more affordable
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  Speaker 1: neighborhoods for their families. They enjoyed more open space and
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  Speaker 1: lower crime rates. The town of Nanuet was typical and
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  Speaker 1: drew many people to its new mall. At 340, October 20th, 1981,
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  Speaker 1: a Brinks armored truck made its regularly scheduled pickup.
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  Speaker 2: From a retailer. One guard remained in the truck while
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  Speaker 2: another watched the doors. The third returned with cash and receipts.
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  Speaker 1: With no warning, a gang of masked men burst out
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  Speaker 1: of a red van. One guard was hit in the throat,
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  Speaker 1: another was hit in the arm. The gunman then trained
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  Speaker 1: his weapons on the driver. He shot back, but the
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  Speaker 1: assailant's gunfire was overwhelming. One guard managed to climb into
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  Speaker 1: the back of the truck for protection. Police Chief Alan
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  Speaker 1: Colsey of the South Nyack Grandview Police Department was five
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  Speaker 1: miles away when he received the call. Officers from other
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  Speaker 1: nearby towns were also called, since Nanuet was too small
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  Speaker 1: to support its.
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  Speaker 2: Own police force.
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  Speaker 4: In October of 1981, when the Brinks case occurred, it
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  Speaker 4: was an extremely shocking event for the entire area of
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  Speaker 4: Rockland County. For the NIA community, for the Clarkstown community,
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  Speaker 4: this was something that they had never expected to ever see.
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  Speaker 1: Clarkstown police and paramedics arrived first. They placed one guard
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  Speaker 1: on life support, hoping he would survive the ride to
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. Brink's guard, Peter Page, would never get that chance.
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  Speaker 1: A gunshot had severed major arteries in his right shoulder
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  Speaker 1: and neck.
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  Speaker 2: He died before help arrived. The uninjured driver said though
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  Speaker 2: the gunman had worn masks, he believed they were black males.
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  Speaker 2: They sped off in a red van.
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  Speaker 1: From a deposit log, police learned that $ 1. 6 million was missing.
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  Speaker 5: $ 1.
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  Speaker 1: 3 million remained in the trunk. Chief Colsey received updates
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  Speaker 1: as he raced to the crime scene.
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  Speaker 4: The first information coming in from the Nanuet scene was
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  Speaker 4: that the suspects had been seen escaping in a red van.
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  Speaker 4: They were eastbound on Route 59. This would take them
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  Speaker 4: along a route adjacent to the New York State Thruway,
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  Speaker 4: which leads directly into New York City over the Tappan
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  Speaker 4: Zee Bridge.
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  Speaker 1: Moments later, a local resident close to the mall reported
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  Speaker 1: seeing masked gunmen in a parking lot transferring sacks and
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  Speaker 1: weapons into a.
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  Speaker 2: Small moving truck.
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  Speaker 1: The witness told Clarkstown Police.
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  Speaker 2: That the vehicles exited eastbound.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Arthur Keenan and two other police cruisers were on
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  Speaker 1: Route 59, close to the thruway entrance when they received
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  Speaker 1: the update.
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  Speaker 5: We proceeded on to Route 59 near the New York
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  Speaker 5: State Thruway to see if we would see the getaway vehicle.
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  Speaker 5: We went to that area figuring that would be a
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  Speaker 5: getaway route.
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  Speaker 1: When the officers arrived at the intersection of Mountain View
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  Speaker 1: Road and Interstate 87, they noticed a moving truck. waiting
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  Speaker 1: to turn left onto the thruway. Keenan ordered one patrol
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  Speaker 1: unit to block the on-ramp. Then, Detective Keenan received a
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  Speaker 1: call about a second moving truck.
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  Speaker 5: At that time, there was a radio transmission from the
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  Speaker 5: Orangetown police that they had a UOL truck heading southbound
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  Speaker 5: on Route 304 near the New Jersey line, which was
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  Speaker 5: approximately the same distance from the Nanuet Mall as we were.
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  Speaker 1: Unsure if the truck on Route 59 was the suspect's,
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  Speaker 1: Sergeant Edward O'Grady and Detective Keenan blocked the truck. Officers
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  Speaker 1: Brian Lennon and Waverly Chip Brown approached the drivers.
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  Speaker 5: Suspects were described as being black males. At the intersection,
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  Speaker 5: we observed the driver and passenger as being white individuals.
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  Speaker 2: The woman objected to the shotgun.
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  Speaker 1: Sergeant O'Grady directed Lennon to return the gun to the
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  Speaker 1: patrol car.
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  Speaker 2: They believed they had stopped the wrong truck.
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  Speaker 1: As Lennon secured the gun, the detective inspected the back
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  Speaker 1: of the moving truck. Though it didn't appear locked, the
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  Speaker 1: back door wouldn't open. He told the couple that he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see what was inside.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't understand why it wouldn't open. I wanted to
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  Speaker 5: know what was in the back of the truck. And
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  Speaker 5: then instantly, as I was sent out, a noise came
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  Speaker 5: from the truck.
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  Speaker 2: I turned and.
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  Speaker 5: All the suspects were coming out of the back shooting.
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  Speaker 1: The rounds from the officers' six-shot revolvers bounced off the
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  Speaker 1: bulletproof vests worn by the armed gang. Officer Lennon rushed
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  Speaker 1: back to his patrol car for his shotgun. Officer Brown
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  Speaker 1: was shot in the neck and shoulder and fell to
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  Speaker 1: the ground. Even if the officers were wearing their vests,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have helped.
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  Speaker 5: We were at a disadvantage. In addition to which, the
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  Speaker 5: ammunition that was being used in the M-16 was capable
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  Speaker 5: of going through vests.
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  Speaker 1: As the masked gunman approached, one executed Officer Brown at
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  Speaker 1: point-blank range. Detective Keenan was hit in the leg and
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  Speaker 1: ran for cover.
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  Speaker 5: I was still being fired at. Even after I took cover,
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  Speaker 5: I had shots go between my legs. The tree that
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  Speaker 5: I was behind took a shot chest high.
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  Speaker 1: Officer Lennon had unlocked his shotgun but was taking heavy fire.
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  Speaker 1: The gunman rammed the police car, trying to clear it
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  Speaker 1: for their escape.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Then, two cars arrived at the scene. The suspects gathered
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  Speaker 1: the money bags and piled into the cars. One suspect
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  Speaker 1: never made it to a getaway car. A passing motorist
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  Speaker 1: grabbed the woman who had been a passenger in the
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  Speaker 1: truck and prevented her escape. He watched the white Oldsmobile
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  Speaker 1: and tan Honda speed away. Officers Keenan and Lennon rushed
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  Speaker 1: to help their injured colleagues.
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  Speaker 5: As the suspects made their getaway, I went to both
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  Speaker 5: Waverly Brown and Eddie O'Grady to see if there was
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  Speaker 5: anything I could do for them. Waverly Brown ended were
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  Speaker 5: both beyond any medical attention that I could administer.
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  Speaker 1: Still en route, Chief Alan Colson's main focus now was
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  Speaker 1: to find the fleeing vehicles, but reports were scattered and
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  Speaker 1: hard to decipher.
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  Speaker 4: It was very, very difficult at this particular time to
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  Speaker 4: get a clear, open communication from anyone out in the
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  Speaker 4: field back to a desk area because of the number
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  Speaker 4: of communications that were literally stepping on one another.
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  Speaker 1: As the chief approached the area, he determined that the
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  Speaker 1: crime scene didn't need any more personnel or vehicles.
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  Speaker 2: He set out to find those responsible.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to interfere with the emergency response in
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  Speaker 4: that area.
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  Speaker 2: The road was completely blocked.
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  Speaker 4: So knowing that this particular escape route would lead them
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  Speaker 4: in a particular direction, I made a U-turn at Mountain
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  Speaker 4: View and 59 and traced my steps back.
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  Speaker 1: He figured the suspects would travel towards New York City,
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  Speaker 1: where there was potential for a greater loss of life.
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  Speaker 2: He believed their route would take them along Mountain View
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  Speaker 2: Avenue to a T-intersection.
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  Speaker 4: I figured there was a 50-50 shot that they were
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  Speaker 4: either going to go east or west and that I
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  Speaker 4: could cover at least one of those avenues of escape
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  Speaker 4: and went immediately to that area as quickly as I could.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, en route to that particular intersection, I observed
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  Speaker 4: the suspect vehicles, two of them, at a high rate
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  Speaker 4: of speed heading east on Christian Herald Road.
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  Speaker 1: The chief followed the cars. He radioed in his position
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  Speaker 1: and asked for backup.
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  Speaker 4: It was clear to me, based upon the events that
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  Speaker 4: had transpired up until that point, that these were extremely
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  Speaker 4: dangerous individuals who had no compulsion or no regard for
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  Speaker 4: human life and no hesitancy to take the utmost of
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  Speaker 4: violent actions against anybody who would stand in their way.
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  Speaker 2: Until units arrived, it would be up to him to
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  Speaker 2: stop two vehicles that held six heavily armed cop-killers. After
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  Speaker 2: following for a few minutes, the chief noticed that two
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  Speaker 2: passengers in the Honda had ducked out of sight, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: to load guns.
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  Speaker 4: As we get to the corner of 6th and Broadway,
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  Speaker 4: the Oldsmobile makes a right-hand turn onto Broadway going south
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  Speaker 4: into the middle of town, and the tan Honda attempts
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  Speaker 4: to do the same, but slides, skids across the road.
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  Speaker 1: The chief positioned his car between himself and the fugitives.
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  Speaker 1: He drew his gun and continued to call for backup,
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  Speaker 1: hoping his voice could be heard.
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  Speaker 2: Over the clamor of simultaneous calls.
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  Speaker 4: I continually order the suspects out of the vehicle. There's
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  Speaker 4: a period of a few seconds where nothing in fact happens.
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  Speaker 4: And then the door opens up and I see a
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  Speaker 4: female put her feet out onto the roadway and remain
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  Speaker 4: seated in the front seat of the car.
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  Speaker 1: The chief repeated his commands to exit the vehicle with
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  Speaker 1: their hands in the air. The woman then began to
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  Speaker 1: reach behind the seat, perhaps for a gun. Then a
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  Speaker 1: second occupant walked towards the officer wearing a bulletproof vest.
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  Speaker 4: Despite my repeated orders to the contrary, one of the
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  Speaker 4: suspects came walking.
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  Speaker 2: Up towards me.
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  Speaker 4: The female was attempting to reach around and get something
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  Speaker 4: which I immediately assumed to be a weapon.
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  Speaker 1: The chief was outnumbered, and neither of the suspects obeyed
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  Speaker 1: his orders.
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  Speaker 2: He made one more desperate call for backup.
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  Speaker 1: On October 20, 1981, the Nyack, New York police chief
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  Speaker 1: had stopped one of two getaway cars filled with suspects
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  Speaker 1: from an armored car robbery that had left three dead
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  Speaker 1: and two wounded. As he continued to call for backup,
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  Speaker 1: One suspect reached behind her seat, another.
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  Speaker 2: Approached the chief wearing a bulletproof vest.
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  Speaker 1: He was outnumbered, and neither of the suspects obeyed his orders.
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  Speaker 1: As the chief made one last desperate radio call, backup arrived.
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  Speaker 3: Get on the ground, face down, on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Get on the ground, face down.
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  Speaker 1: They secured the scene and pulled a third suspect from
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  Speaker 1: the back seat. Police believed that he had been an
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  Speaker 1: armed lookout for the other two, but was injured and
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  Speaker 1: dropped his weapon when their getaway car careened out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Police searched the car. In the trunk, they recovered sacks
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  Speaker 1: that held in excess.
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  Speaker 2: Of $ 1 million.
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  Speaker 1: Under the front seat, they found a loaded 9mm pistol
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  Speaker 1: the weapon the woman had likely been reaching for. Thousands
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  Speaker 1: attended the funeral for the officers slain at the October
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  Speaker 1: 20th shootout. The entire community shared the grief felt by
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  Speaker 1: Detective Arthur Keenan at the loss of his colleagues.
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  Speaker 5: The death of my two friends, Chipper Brown and Eddie O'Grady,
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  Speaker 5: definitely affected my life from that point forward. When you're
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  Speaker 5: in a small community like that, in a small police
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  Speaker 5: department like that, you go to each other's weddings and
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  Speaker 5: christenings and barbecues and things of that nature, and it
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  Speaker 5: becomes like a secondary family of sorts. So it was
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  Speaker 5: very devastating to lose two of your good friends.
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  Speaker 1: The four murder suspects, including the woman captured at the roadblock,
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  Speaker 1: maintained their silence while arraigned at Nyack Village Hall. Police
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  Speaker 1: had no way to know how many more were still
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  Speaker 1: at large.
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  Speaker 4: The law enforcement community in Rockland County was taken greatly
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  Speaker 4: by surprise by the sequence and magnitude of the events.
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  Speaker 4: This was really a small assault team that came to
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  Speaker 4: Rockland County to rob this this Brinks truck, and it
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  Speaker 4: was a magnitude and a seriousness and a firepower that
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  Speaker 4: had never been seen anywhere in the law enforcement community here.
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  Speaker 1: If Nyack police were not used to such violence, 30
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  Speaker 1: miles south in New York City, the FBI and New
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  Speaker 1: York City police certainly were. The New York Joint Terrorism
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  Speaker 1: Task Force had already been investigating a series of armored
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  Speaker 1: car heists throughout the region that had been executed in
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  Speaker 1: a similar fashion. Now-retired Special Agent Lou Vesey was a
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  Speaker 1: member of that team. He believed the Nyack robbery was
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  Speaker 1: connected to the others.
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  Speaker 6: The people who had done Nyack had to have some
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  Speaker 6: involvement with all these other crimes. I mean, because the M.O.
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  Speaker 6: was absolutely identical. The whites were driving the vehicles, the
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  Speaker 6: blacks had done the robberies, the weapons that were used
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  Speaker 6: were identical to the weapons that had been used in
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  Speaker 6: the other robberies we were looking at. So there was
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  Speaker 6: no doubt in anybody's mind that this was at least
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  Speaker 6: some of the same group.
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  Speaker 1: The suspects were processed at the Rockland County Jail. When
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  Speaker 1: asked for their names, all gave aliases, except one.
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  Speaker 2: Judy Clark.
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  Speaker 1: Arrested in the getaway car was no stranger to the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: To agents, she was known as a member of the
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  Speaker 1: Weather Underground, a radical group involved in many violent robberies
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  Speaker 1: and bombings in the 1960s and 70s. For the Brinks robbery,
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  Speaker 1: she would be sentenced to 75 years in prison. Special
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  Speaker 1: Agent Lou Vesey was an expert.
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  Speaker 2: On the Weather Underground.
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  Speaker 6: One female I recognized immediately as Judy Clark, who had
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  Speaker 6: been someone who had been under investigation previously by us
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  Speaker 6: as a possible terrorist. There was another female there who
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  Speaker 6: I thought looked very familiar.
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  Speaker 1: Agent Vesey suspected the woman arrested at the roadblock was
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  Speaker 1: Kathy Boudin, another member of the Weather Underground. A fingerprint
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  Speaker 1: check confirmed it. Boudin pled guilty and was sentenced to
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  Speaker 1: 20 years in prison for acting as a decoy passenger
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  Speaker 1: in the moving truck. They discovered one of the men
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  Speaker 1: to be David Gilbert, Boudin's common-law husband who was also
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  Speaker 1: a member of the Weather Underground. He received 75 years
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  Speaker 1: for his role. Sam Brown, who had been injured in
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  Speaker 1: the getaway car, was an associate of the Black Liberation Army,
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  Speaker 1: another militant group. Like Gilbert and Clark, Brown was sentenced
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  Speaker 1: to 75 years in prison. Four members of the gang
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  Speaker 1: were behind bars. From survivors' statements, agents estimated at least
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  Speaker 1: seven more were out on the streets. Special Agent Ken
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell joined the investigation to help determine who and where
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  Speaker 1: the remaining fugitives might be. One new lead held promise.
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  Speaker 1: The second getaway car had been found a few miles away.
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  Speaker 7: The Oldsmobile was found in Westchester County, dumped or abandoned. Inside,
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  Speaker 7: there was a great deal of blood indicating that whoever
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  Speaker 7: had abandoned the vehicle had been wounded during the shootout.
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  Speaker 1: Agents checked local hospitals for gunshot victims. They found no
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  Speaker 1: patients whose whereabouts were unaccounted for on the day of
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  Speaker 1: the shootout. The Oldsmobile was registered to a woman at
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  Speaker 1: an apartment on Prospect Street in East Orange, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: They suspected that the armed fugitives had taken refuge there.
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  Speaker 1: Agents obtained a search warrant. They found no one inside
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  Speaker 1: and began to process the apartment.
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  Speaker 7: The location in East Orange, New Jersey, was a treasure
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  Speaker 7: trove of evidence. It's what we commonly refer to as
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  Speaker 7: a safe house. Inside that safe house, the New Jersey
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  Speaker 7: State Police and the FBI located a tremendous amount of
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  Speaker 7: documentary evidence indicating other safe houses other vehicles used by
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  Speaker 7: these subjects, and also photographs and other forms of identification
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  Speaker 7: that began to unravel the mystery as.
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  Speaker 2: To who was involved.
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  Speaker 1: One key name investigators discovered on rent receipts was the
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  Speaker 1: legal name of the tenant, Marilyn Jean Buck. The FBI
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  Speaker 1: knew her name and history, She was a known operative
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  Speaker 1: of the Black Liberation Army and its only white member.
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  Speaker 7: Marilyn Buck had a long history of her involvement with
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  Speaker 7: radical politics, if you will. At the time of the robbery,
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  Speaker 7: she was a fugitive who had gone underground and was
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  Speaker 7: wanted on weapons charges.
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  Speaker 1: Agents also found a bomb-making manual, diagrams of six police precincts,
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  Speaker 1: and a hit list naming civic and business leaders. They
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  Speaker 1: turned up more false IDs, disguises, a shotgun, two 9mm pistols,
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  Speaker 1: and ammunition. A ledger with detailed notes made in Marilyn
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  Speaker 1: Buck's handwriting revealed.
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  Speaker 2: The group's illicit activities.
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  Speaker 1: It listed dates and expenditures for rental cars, guns, ammunition,
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  Speaker 1: and illegal drugs. As investigators sifted through the evidence, they
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  Speaker 1: began to encounter a problem that would plague them throughout
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  Speaker 1: this complex case, according to Agent Lou Vesey.
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  Speaker 6: I think the real difficulty is just the sheer bulk
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  Speaker 6: of information and evidence. Numerous pieces of evidence from numerous
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  Speaker 6: crime scenes. Individuals who constantly used aliases, false identification, had
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  Speaker 6: safe houses. You had to figure out who was who.
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  Speaker 6: Was that person identical to a person with a different
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  Speaker 6: name but a same physical description in another safe house?
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  Speaker 6: It was a gigantic jigsaw puzzle, and sometimes you didn't
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  Speaker 6: think you had all the pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Agents still didn't know who was involved, where they were,
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  Speaker 1: and why they did it. To get answers, the FBI
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  Speaker 1: needed to develop a cooperating witness. They turned to Sam
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  Speaker 1: Brown in Otisville Prison, the gunman arrested after the car chase.
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  Speaker 1: He was a low-level associate of the Black Liberation Army.
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  Speaker 1: Brown cooperated in the hopes that his sentence would be lightened.
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  Speaker 6: Sam Brown was the only one who decided to talk
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  Speaker 6: to the investigators. He really got us started. He's the
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  Speaker 6: one that named a few names, and with those few names,
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  Speaker 6: that's where the investigation began widening out to the rest
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  Speaker 6: of them. So he was very important.
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  Speaker 1: The most valuable name Brown provided was that of the
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  Speaker 1: mastermind behind the armed robbery.
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  Speaker 2: Matulu Shakur.
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  Speaker 1: Shakur was a known militant, the leader of the Black
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  Speaker 1: Liberation Army, and one of the highest-ranking members of the
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  Speaker 1: gang who called themselves The Family. The Family was a
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  Speaker 1: group of about a dozen terrorists comprised primarily of members
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  Speaker 1: of the Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army. Their formal
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: association was news to Agent Maxwell.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: We had known from prior investigations in the past that
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: these groups had communicated, that they had some common goals
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: and objectives, but never before had that communication or association
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: evolved into this type of criminal activity.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Brown told agents that the family met on many occasions
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to plan the Nyack robbery. Matulu Shakur assigned jobs to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: each member.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Of the group.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Edward Joseph and Donald Weems were assigned as gunmen in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the armored car assault. The FBI knew Weems was a
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: member of the Black Panthers and the Black Liberation Army.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: He had escaped from prison in 1978. Investigators knew little
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: about Joseph. Another man named Chewy Ferguson would handle the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: M16 assault rifle. Samuel Lee Smith would be armed with
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a shotgun.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Brown didn't know the names of the others, but provided
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: agents with physical descriptions.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Agents put out APBs for the five names given, which
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: included Samuel Lee Smith. In Queens, homicide detectives were on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: their way to Smith's last known address. A license plate
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: registered to him had been found in a safe house.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: As one detective drove down Smith's street He passed a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: driver who fit the suspect's description. The detective called for
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a marked unit to stop him. When the man saw
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the lights, he took off.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Police followed him into an alley.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Get out.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Of the car!
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: Put your hands out of the window!
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Use your left hand to open the door. Step out
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: of the vehicle. Step out of the car.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You step out of the car.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Keep out of the car. Step out of the car.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Keep your hands back.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: For the third time in as many days, an armed
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: member of the family had opened fire on uniformed officers.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Samuel Lee Smith, a fugitive, wanted for his role in
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the shooting deaths of two police officers and an armored cargo.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: had opened fire on New York City police. His attack
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: did not last long. He was killed by the officers
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: returning fire. Smith was the fifth member of a terrorist
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: group called The Family to have been taken.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Off the streets.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Seven others remained at large, with almost a million dollars
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: in stolen cash still missing. On a tip from Sam Brown,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a gang member already in custody, police canvassed a Bronx
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: neighborhood for another.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Suspect named Donald Weems.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Special Agent Ken Maxwell recalls that Brown knew very little
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: about Weems.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Brown had given us a general description of a neighborhood
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: in the Bronx where he had met this individual who
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: fit the description of Weems. My partner and I, after
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: a process of elimination and a lot of legwork, pinpointed
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: a building that possibly could be the place Brown was
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: talking about.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Detectives canvassed the neighborhood, hoping someone would know Weems and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: reveal his address.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: They got lucky.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: A neighbor directed police to his apartment. He told them
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Weems was upstairs right now. Detectives called for backup. Since
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: every other encounter with these terrorists had resulted in gunfire.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: They prepared for the worst.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: In a short time, they entered the building with a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: warrant and.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: A SWAT team. They had no idea if Weems was
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: alone or if he was armed.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: There were some anxious moments in terms of waiting. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: then he ultimately came out and surrendered in the hallway.
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: It is a part. however, we found several firearms, a
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: gas mask, a bulletproof vest, and enough ammunition to do
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: battle with.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: A small army.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Weems was the only member of the family inside.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He was tried on federal charges and found guilty of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: robbery and second-degree murder. He was sentenced to 75 years
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in prison. Though six members of the family were now
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: in custody, group leader Matula Shakur remained on the streets.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Once again, cooperating informant Sam Brown provided agents with a lead.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He believed Matula Shakur could most likely be found in
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Harlem at the acupuncture clinic Shakur had founded. The FBI
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and NYPD set up 24-hour surveillance on the clinic.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: We utilized agents and detectives of diverse ethnic backgrounds to
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: do our best to blend into certain neighborhoods. We knew from.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: both.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Experience and also recognizing the intelligence and versatility of this
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: group that we had to be particularly discreet in surveilling
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: these individuals.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Agents watched and listened for months.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Though Shakur never showed, they noted several others who came
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and went quite often. Agents hoped they would eventually lead
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: them to Shakur One night, agents followed a man from
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the clinic to a house at 85 Barrow Street in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Greenwich Village. They learned the house was rented to Edward Joseph,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: one of the suspects named by informant Sam Brown in
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the Nyack robbery and shootout. They suspected Shakur was hiding there.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: They were right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Their months of perseverance had paid off. A federal judge
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: authorized a Title III. This permitted agents to set up
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: wiretaps and buttons. Shakur and Joseph must have suspected the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: FBI's presence, since they often turned up the TV when
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: they talked. Despite this, agents were able to pick up
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: snippets of incriminating conversations, including a discussion of killing informant
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Sam Brown. After several weeks, agents had enough evidence for
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a warrant to raid the Greenwich Village hideout.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: On the night of March 25th, 1982, six months since
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the murders and robbery in Nyack.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Agents prepared for the assault They'd strike early the next morning,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: hoping to catch.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: The fugitives asleep and unaware.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: As the agents watched and waited, they saw Shakur enter
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the house. At dawn, two SWAT teams arrived. One team
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: entered through the front door, The other covered the fire
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: escape and back. They arrested two men, Chewy Ferguson and
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Edward Joseph, both named as participants in the Niagara Heist.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Their leader, Matulu Shakur, was nowhere to be found. Somehow,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: he'd escaped during the night, slipping past the surveillance. Ferguson
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and Joseph were convicted on federal charges as accessories for
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: harboring a fugitive, though they were acquitted of murder charges
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: stemming from the Nyack shootings.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Both were sentenced to 12 years in prison.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: On July 23, 1982, almost a year after two officers
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and a guard had been killed in the Brinks robbery,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Mutulu Shakur was placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted list.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Finding the leader of the gang responsible for three cold-blooded
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: murders would now become a priority for every FBI office
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: across the country. Almost a year after Brink's robbery and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: shootout with police, FBI agents around the country continued to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: pursue the mastermind behind the million dollar heist. Matula Shakur,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a leader of the terrorist group called The Family, had
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: been placed on the FBI's ten most wanted fugitives list.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Shakur and at least three others remained at large. In
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the summer of 1982, an agent from New York City
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: traveled to Georgia to interview a member of The Family
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: who had been arrested for a separate bank robbery. Tyrone
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Rison offered his cooperation in the hopes of a lighter
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: sentence by the state of Georgia. Though he claimed that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: he was not present when the armored car was robbed
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in Nyack, New York, he confessed to having helped plan
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the job that left a Brinks guard and two police
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: officers dead. Rison provided crucial information about other members of
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the family.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Rison was not only a member of the family, he
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: was a very important member of the family and had
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: been involved in all the robberies. He knew who was
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: in the family, he knew the names, and he knew
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: how the family operated. So he was able to describe
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: the M.O., the robberies they did, the weapons they used,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: who did what.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Rison told the agent how members of the group were
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: able to secure so many aliases. The prisoner explained that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a manager of a children's clothing store in Manhattan was
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: key to obtaining false IDs. The manager gathered license information
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: each time a customer paid by check. Since New York
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: State did not require a photo license in the early 80s,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: an imposter would take the information to the Motor Vehicles Department,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: claiming she'd lost her license. Then, the DMV would issue
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a duplicate immediately, Rison also described to Special Agent Maxwell
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the group's motives.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: They term these robberies expropriations, almost acts of war. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: as one of their members eloquently, or not so eloquently,
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: commented one time, in war, people get hurt. So if
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: you can understand that philosophy, you can understand the mindset
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: or the motivations behind the gang.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Rison's information helped agents understand more about the inner workings
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of the group. But by the fall of 1984, three
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: years after the Brinks heist and triple murder, three fugitives
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: still eluded the FBI, including gang leader Mutulu Shakur, Marilyn Buck.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And Susan Rosenberg.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Despite this, time was on the side of the FBI,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: The longer the fugitives ran, the more likely it was they'd.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Make a mistake.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: On November 29, 1984, local police received a call from
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a manager at a storage facility in Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: He reported a customer on the premises who had been
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: paying her bill with a credit card that was determined
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to be stolen. Officers arrived to find the woman about
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to leave. Inside the back of the van, they noticed
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: containers that appeared to hold explosives. Police asked her for ID.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: When she reached for her purse under the driver's seat,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the cautious officers stopped her. They wanted her hands to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: stay in plain sight. Inside her purse, they found a weapon.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: They placed her under arrest. When she was processed, police
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: learned that she was Susan Rosenberg, a member of the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: family wanted in connection with the Brinks robbery and shootout.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Investigators secured a search warrant for the van. Inside the crates,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they found 640 pounds of explosives.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And 14 weapons.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: The van was registered in New York State to a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: woman named Louise Harmon. Agents discovered the name and her
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: address had been falsified. As forensic technicians processed Rosenberg's vehicle,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: they noticed a sticker on the door from a.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Repair shop in Connecticut.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Agents located the New Haven repair shop where the vehicle
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: had been serviced. They hoped the owner would remember the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: persons who had brought the van in. They showed the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: owner several photographs of women who were known associates of
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the family. The woman he identified was Marilyn Jean Buck,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: one of two remaining fugitives in the Brinks robbery and shootout.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: While Buck had not used her real name on the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: vehicle's paperwork, she listed an address in Dobbs Ferry, New
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: York on the repair.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Bill Agents followed up on the lead.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: They determined that Buck was in Dobbs Ferry and set
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: up surveillance, but she eluded them for months. Then on
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: May 11, 1985, they finally cornered her outside a diner
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and arrested.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Her.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Buck denied knowing Matulu Shakur or having any connection to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the Brinks robbery and shootout four years before. But a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: federal trial would prove differently. Buck was sentenced to 50
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: years in prison without the possibility of parole.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: She was extremely important in the planning of the robberies
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: and in the procurement of the weapons, as it turns out.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: A lot of the weapons that the family had, she
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: obtained in gun shows in Texas, buying them under phony names.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Now, only one known suspect in the Nyack robbery and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: shootout remained, terrorist leader Mutulu Shakur. Agent searched a Baltimore
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: apartment rented by Buck, hoping for a lead to Shakur's whereabouts.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: They discovered paraphernalia for making false identity papers, wigs likely
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: used in disguises, plans to bomb federal offices, and $ 10.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: 000 in cash.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Searchers also found guns and ammunition stashed in various locations
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: throughout the apartment. Then, scrawled on a piece of paper,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: agents came across what they'd been hoping for, evidence of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Mutulu Shakur's whereabouts.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It listed a phone number in Los Angeles.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Special Agent David Mitchell spearheaded the search for Shakur. He
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: contacted the FBI Los Angeles field office to have agents
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: follow up the lead.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: Special Agent Dana Ingalls in the Los Angeles office advised
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: me that he had interviewed an individual that had established
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: that Shakur had in fact been residing in Los Angeles.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Shakur had eluded authorities in a nationwide manhunt for over
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: five years. Agents hoped that this time they could corner
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: him and bring down the leader of the terrorist gang
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: responsible for killing one armored car guard and two police officers.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: The FBI and NYPD were closing in on Matulu Shakur,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the elusive criminal believed to have masterminded a deadly Brinks
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: robbery and shootout. Special Agent David Mitchell had tracked Shakur
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to L.A., where the terrorist leader remained one step ahead.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: There were a number of challenges.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: Shakur was working with a group of individuals that were
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: closely aligned to each other. They had a support network.
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: The investigators all assigned to this investigation were having a
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: difficult time getting individuals to cooperate.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: After many weeks, investigators were finally able to convince an
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: informant to tell what he knew about the fugitive's whereabouts.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: He said he didn't know where Shakur was hiding, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: he identified a man by the name of Chapman, known
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: to be close to Shakur. For about six weeks, agents
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: conducted ground and air surveillance on Chapman and other Shakur associates.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: but Shakur continued to elude authorities.
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: Shakur was leading a very low-profile life in Los Angeles,
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: at least as far as our investigation could determine. He
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: did not frequent any locations or areas where he could
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: be identified, and we virtually knew very little about his
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: activity at that time.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: As the surveillance continued, Mitchell and the other investigators tried
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to find a pattern to the moves Shakur's associates made
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to hide him around the city. They pored over apartment
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: rental records and other documents, but learned little. Then on
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: February 11th, 1986, their confidential informant called.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for being here.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: He told them that Chapman would meet with Shakur that
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: night after Chapman left a Lakers basketball game. Investigators located
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: his car and waited for him to leave the forum.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Chapman attempted what agents called dry cleaning, counter surveillance.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Tactics designed to lose a tail.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He wove through the streets, turning, changing direction. Police stayed
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: with him, not knowing if Chapman had seen them. When
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Chapman reached his destination, Mitchell's team pulled in nearby. Chapman
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: approached a man they believed was Shakur. Two officers headed to.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Where the men were talking, careful not to attract attention.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: When Shakur saw them, he took off on foot.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: They caught up with him in an alley.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: The arrest of this violent revolutionary closed a five-year nationwide manhunt.
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: When Shakur was arrested, it was apparent to those officers
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: and agents involved in the arrest that he was tired
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: and it was late in the evening. He was transported
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: to the Los Angeles FBI office where Agent Ingles and I.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Attempted to interview him.
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: Shakur declined to furnish any statement to us during this interview.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: and was subsequently removed back to New York City to
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: face the charges.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: In the spring of 1986, Shakur was tried on federal
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: charges related to the Brinks robbery and shootout. He was
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: sentenced to 60 years in prison without the possibility of parole.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: The police officers who survived that terrifying day in Nyack,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: New York, were relieved that Shakur had been brought to justice.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: But for South Nyack Police Chief Alan Colsey, the memory
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: of their loss would always be with them.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Eddie O'Grady and Officer Brown, Chip Brown as we called him,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: were local Nyack community members. They'd gone through the Nyack
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: school district, They had been on the job before I was,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: and in fact, more or less had sort of brought
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: me and broken me into the community. They were very,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: very close to the community and to a lot of
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: us that were police officers here. They were excellent people,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: they were excellent cops, and we miss them dearly to
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: this day.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: To commemorate the slain officers, a monument was erected in Nyack,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: New York. The surviving colleagues have found some comfort in
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: knowing that the lessons learned from the Nyack shootout have
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: made life safer for citizens as well as for the
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: officers on the street today.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: Let it not be said that they died in vain,
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: but rather that their ultimate sacrifice led to the identification
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: of a national problem. I think Their ultimate sacrifice and
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: their tragic deaths of everyone involved certainly uncovered a nationwide
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: network of domestic terrorists heretofore unknown and in essence prevented
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: the loss of life to others.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Bye.